This video presents a philosophical thought experiment where participants imagine being executed and asked for their last words, which will be recorded and shared online. The host explains that this exercise is designed to reveal what truly matters to individuals when facing mortality, as the final moments often expose core values and priorities. Different participants respond with varying answers: one mentions their cats, another expresses relief at death, and others discuss their life's work or philosophical beliefs. The discussion explores how confronting death can help us understand what genuinely matters in life, suggesting that what we choose to say in our final moments reflects our deepest convictions and what we consider most important.
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She has arrived. It is Chickpea. Welcome Chickpea. Just one moment darling. I'll introduce the show. Hello. Hello. Hello chickpea. And hello everybody else. Good evening. Welcome back to the Finding Nosis show. I do hope you are you are indeed well as well as you deserve to be.
>> Uh tonight tonight tonight tonight tonight can you hear me? All right, Chickp.
>> Yes, I can hear you fine. Thank you.
>> Lovely. Lovely. Well, look, tonight I want to I I was thinking uh earlier about what matters and maybe the fact that what matters may lead us to think about what is actually going on one way or another.
And uh so I thought maybe we'd do a thought experiment. I thought that would be a good way of clarifying things. You know, it might be a good way to get creatures like us thinking about what is going on. And so I thought, bear with me here, just just just listen to this and and and and try and think of an answer. Take your time. Don't spurt it out.
Imagine in a very short while you are going to die.
>> And I don't I don't mean this in an abstract sense. I don't mean I I I don't mean this I don't mean this in the manner that you know it's going to happen. and you're not quite sure how.
No, you know, you're you're literally tied to a stake and there is some kind of grim executioner standing over you with a gun pointed to your head. So, it's not a vague, it's not a distant inevitability hovering over politely at the edge of your thoughts, but it is an immediate an immediate uh fact. You are going to die. The room is real. The moment is real. The executioner pointing the gun at your head only about 5 6 ines from your head is real. The end of your life, folks, is no longer something ahead of you in the distant future. It's no longer something, you know, to think about as a philosophical curious curiosity.
It's no longer some kind of background fear, you know, that you you have, you know, now it's right there. It's right there. You are about to die.
Um, that is what is going on. You are about to die. No [ __ ] You're about, your head is about to be blown open.
You are about to be blown into smitherines. Your brain is at least. The moment has arrived, your moments on this planet are about to end.
But you know, just before that happens, the big burly grim executioner pointing the gun at your head says to you, "What do you say?"
So, he's at least given you an opportunity to have a few last words.
Now, he also says he's going to record what you say and it's going to be shared on the internet.
It's going to be posted to the newspapers. So, what you say in that moment will have an effect outside of that Burke who who is listening to you, the the grim executioner.
Um, so there you go.
I don't I want to hear what would you say if you were about to be killed if you know your death is is coming there and then what are you going to say and I don't want you to say something witty clever well if you want to you can but I want you to think really deeply about what would you say what would you really want to say in that moment and take it seriously this is not a joke I repeat this is not a We're trying to find out what matters, chickpea. We're trying to find out what the goddamn matters.
>> You know what, Grumps? It wouldn't even bother me anymore and I wouldn't even be bothered.
And it's come to that in my life.
Grump, where are you?
Grumpy Guts. Right. What would I say? I would say, can you please uh tell someone to take my >> TB? Did you kick me off my own show?
>> No. How can I kick?
>> You have been accused of being a witch.
But you've been accused of being a wicked witch or something before. So >> I wish I was a witch. I wish I was >> really Well, that's another that's another topic for another show. What would you do if you were a witch?
>> Exactly. What spells would you cast if you're a witch? That is a good topic for another show. But today today, Chickpe, someone has a gun to your head.
>> You're about to be shot dead. Your brains are about to be blown to smitherines, but they say to you, "Give us your last words." What are your last words, Chippy? And think about it. Don't be glib, Chippy. This is a monumentous occasion.
>> No, no. I've actually daydreamed about this. And >> go ahead.
>> I would say, "Can you please take my cats down the CPL and tell them I've left them all my money?" And that's what I would say.
That's it. No, nothing against your cats, but that's all you would say.
>> That's all I'd have to say. For myself, I don't give a poop anymore cuz I am knackered with it all. Absolutely knackered. My only reason why I bother to keep making the effort is my cats.
There's no reason to make an effort anymore. I'm tired of it. Knackered with it. Worn out with it. And I am.
>> Wow.
Wow. So, Chickp, let's let's let's do a bit of role play here, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Chickpe, close your eyes. Imagine I I'm pointing a gun at your head. I'm only standing like a couple of feet away from you >> about this.
>> The gun is pointing at your forehead and I say to you, Chickpe, tell me your last words.
>> Yeah. Did you you remember that thing that Brother Market did about me with using Christian Wats as that actor where the whole thing shooting a gun? I've got it. I'm pointed.
>> Oh, yes. Yes. That was funny. That summed me up perfectly.
>> That summed me up perfectly. And I imagine myself being in that situation.
Well, you know what? It's come to my point in my life now because I've been here for 72 years, Julian. And I'm pissed off at it.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah, I would probably say, um, yeah, go ahead. Go on then. Do it.
>> I'm not joking. Yeah. Well, you forget I'm 72 cuz I tell you something. the last but look look it's not all it's not all horrible because >> at least you mention your is you mention your cats you say that you know your last thoughts would be to to have your cats catered for >> yes yes and all my money has been left the CPL so as long as that gets out that's all I care about >> um El Pero is disgusted by what you said he says because you have done absolutely nothing in your life, including taking including taking responsibility for your actions. Disgusting. Disgusting. He says it's disgusting that you would have nothing else to say.
>> What's he done? I wonder what's he done.
Of course, work for his employers. Yes.
Well, I'm really so proud of being a wage slave. I've done more for the good of the animals kingdom than he has. And I have done. And that's all I care about.
I'm not a happy little wave sleigh. I'm not going to say, "Oh, well, I worked for 10 years for a law firm and I was in the Navy for four years and I've done all sorts of lovely jobs. I don't give a poop."
>> So there you go, El Pero.
>> And you know, I expect he's very proud.
He's been working. Well, I'm not proud.
I've never been proud to be a W slave.
That's why I come.
>> There you go. you because I'm I'm not happy to have been away slave slavery.
>> El Pero, the gauntlet has been thrown down. She's asking you, she's batted the ball back to you and she said, "What have you done?" The ball is now in your court, El Pero, what have you done to throw stones like that at poor chickpea.
Uh he says, he says, "Imagine someone else summing you up perfectly rather than your own self, lol." So he's basically saying he's summing you up.
Oh, well, I'll sum myself up. I'm that little pest that feeds all the pigeons.
I'm the one that looks after all the cats. I'm the one that looks after the foxes. I'm the animal rights activist.
What have you done?
>> Yeah, you're the animal.
>> He's here now.
>> You're the animal rights activist. But, uh, do you carry that ID in your wallet, you know, so you can interact every day with people? As you say, you're not a wage slave. Do you carry an ID in your pocket? Ma'am, >> why do I want to carry an ID in my wallet for?
>> How do you get along in this world if you don't have an ID in your pocket, ma'am?
>> Cuz I've got lots and lots of money stuffed away in my bank account. That's how >> Oh, so you had to have an ID to get that bank account, right?
>> What?
>> So, you were a wage slave to get that bank account, correct?
>> No. No.
>> See, what am I doing? I live without a bank account. I live without a job. I live without an ID. I live wearing this short mustache. I live wearing this short mustache.
Stop being that Hitler's willing executioner. That [ __ ] ass slave.
>> That's what I DO.
>> IN THE ARMED FORCES, El Pero, did you join the armed forces?
>> [ __ ] no. I wasn't delusional.
>> Oh, I'm I'm I'm criticized. I'm criticized defending this country against other countries for joining the Navy and doing my bit. I'm criticized for that. All right. Have you worked for any law?
>> You should be. And you should be. You're a woman. Do women belong in the military, guys? No. They're supposed to be protected. They're not the ones that are out there in the world protecting.
They're supposed I can't do anything wrong.
>> It's all right. Chip. Chip. Darling.
Darling. Darling. Darling, don't don't get don't get angry. He's he he's sharing his opinion now. You have greatly annoyed him. I think it's a it's an emotional response. He is upset because he feel What is it about her that upsets you?
>> Oh, no. This this is not upset. This is not emotional. This is contradiction.
>> This is me pointing out contradiction.
She sits up here and talks about >> She sits up here and talks about people being wage slaves. Um, she's 70ome years old, was a wage slave until she retired, and now she claims that she does more for animals than I have ever done. This is delusion, folks. She carried that ID in her wallet to get that Navy job, to get that bank account, to get the money that she has, and now she's up here professing that she's not a slave.
>> Thank you for that. El Pero, El Pero, El Pero, El Pero, El Pero, El Pero. Um, you said she's wasted her life.
>> LIVING OFF OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK, YOU HORRIBLE LITTLE MAN. WHO'S been living off the work of others? You, El Pero. At least I haven't done that.
>> Oh, I've been living off the work of other people. Uh, I don't THINK SO.
>> YOU'RE WAY you you are a social security parasite, aren't you?
>> Oh, I am. I am. I don't get social.
>> You don't work.
>> You don't work. So, where'd you get your money from?
>> I don't need, buddy. I use I use barter and exchange the best I can and yes there are there are things in this world that I have to use money for. So in that barter and exchange sometimes I barter in exchange for money. Sometimes I get donations. Sometimes I go to the food bank. Sometimes I do things with humility.
>> Disgusting. You are disgusting. Off to the food bank.
>> Ramaging through the bloody bins.
Lovely. And you criticize me.
You criticize me and you rummage through bins.
>> No, I don't rummage through bins. I said once in a while I might go to the food bank. And in fact, it's been years since I've been to the food bank.
Because normally I go do my cuz normally I go do my trapping, my fishing, AND MY GARDENING ALL.
>> OH MY GOD. OH MY GOD. HE'S ONE OF OH, DW IS ONE OF THEM that goes trapping animals. DNW, we have to have this on the show. He's an >> No, Chippy. Chippy, release the hounds.
Please release the hounds. Chickpea >> goes on trapping animals.
>> So So in the meantime, So in the meantime, >> Chickpea, Chickpea, Chickpe, put him in his place.
>> So in the meantime, my companion has dementia. He can't do anything but depend upon another being. So I'm here for her as well.
>> Walking, talking, living graveyard. You are a nasty little meat eatating [ __ ] who traps animals. And you criticize me.
And you're not very good-looking, are you? Ugly little [ __ ] In fact, >> is this world all about looks?
You You think this is a popularity?
You're 70ome years old and you still think this is a popularity contest about looking good at 60, having survived cancer. YOU'RE [ __ ] DELUSIONAL.
>> SURVIVED CANCER, TOO, you [ __ ] Okay.
>> And and I imagine you're beautiful, aren't you? SHOW THAT PRETTY [ __ ] FACE, YOUR [ __ ] You started this.
>> I started it. I started it. How? You made the delusional claim.
>> My god.
>> What delusional claim did I make?
>> [ __ ] one second.
>> What delusional claim did I make?
Exactly.
I don't quite remember making any delusional claims.
>> Well, I believe you called yourself a slave. I believe you called yourself a slave chickpea in the past. A wage slave. I've done more for this animal kingdom than he ever has. Really?
>> Oh, Chippy, you said you've done more for the animal kingdom than El Pero and he's taking offense to that. Um I I don't know why he's taking offense to that because >> No, it's not an offense. Again, it's reason and logic, folks.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Do you double you do we have to listen to people?
>> It's a contradiction. It's a contradiction for anybody to pose that they've done more than somebody else in one realm or another when they don't even KNOW THEM.
>> YOU ARE A MEAT eating [ __ ] bag. OKAY.
>> YOU are a meat eating [ __ ] You do nothing for this the good of this planet at all apart for gorge on animals and live off other people's taxes. Taxes that should be built that you >> I live off taxes. I ain't I ain't paid taxes in 20 years. I ain't pay taxes in 20 years. No, no, no. You haven't paid taxes, have you? You just expect everyone else to do it.
>> And so the >> All right, guys.
>> All right. All right, guys. Guys.
>> And so the false claim is that somebody else um doesn't do a good a good a job as you in protecting animals. Um that's a delusional claim because you have very little experience in the animal world when the only thing you're doing is not doing anything to them or with them. You got your birds and your pets and everything and you feed them. And what do you feed them? You feed them the grocery food that you get from the store with that fiat currency. So you're poisoning them just as you claim other people are poisoning themselves with this commercial realm, right?
>> So what good have you really done? So what good have you really >> perlo you've made your point now? Just one sec. We're going to have a little commercial break just to cool down. Uh please >> fur the stream somewhere now to bring in new voices for our conversation.
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>> But I've taken umbrage here cuz at the end of the day, I was one of them. I'm one of them that worked and paid taxes.
I've taken a real umbrage at this cuz yesterday he's never done.
>> I hear you. I hear you. I hear it was it was it was it was Hello, Guru, but please wait until we wait until you're told to speak, please. We're just doing the introductions.
>> Sorry. Uh now, El Pere, you came in here fiery. Uh you went off topic if if if you ask me. But I I want to ask you the question, um which is the you know the title of the show. Um, well, the topic.
Um, you're about to be executed, El Pero. Someone has a gun to your head.
>> Someone has a gun to your head. Let's not say why. We don't know why it's happening. It is happening. He may be an innocent man. The point is it's happening. And it's happening very, very soon indeed. The grim executioner uh says to you, "What are your last words?" You have an opportunity to say something. It is going to be recorded.
and it will be sent to the big worldwide web, maybe to the newspapers, news agencies. You have an opportunity, El Pero. You'll be in the limelight. It may be for a grim reason, but you'll be in the limelight. And I just want to find out what would you say in that moment cuz it's a very very um you know, it's it's it would be an emotional moment, but also it would be your last moment.
There never there would never be a more important moment in terms of expressing yourself. And I want to hear what Mr. El Pero would say. Go ahead.
>> Well, when it comes to the most important moment of expressing yourself, I do it daily. In case you haven't noticed this, right, the short mustache.
See, what I do in this life is I go to the city council meetings wearing this short mustache and I speak to them and I let them know I am not one of Hitler's willing executioners. You people as public servants serve me.
>> Do we do we have to listen to [ __ ] >> What the [ __ ] >> Uh ple please don't um please do not insult spastics. Uh can I can I can I Elpro? Can can I um can I ask you Alpero to answer the question though? You may have done a lot in your life but I'm just this is this is a experiment. Yeah.
So when it comes to that question, I would remind them that they are operating the exact same way as Hitler's willing executioners. I would merely repeat the same thing I am repeating daily in my life. That is what I do. And I will do it on my deathbed the same as I do in life. You are animal.
You [ __ ] animal murderer. Animal.
>> You are one second chick. Why is this allowed?
>> Well, it is freedom of expression. Yes.
>> No, it's not. It's not. This is disgusting.
This is turning everybody's stomach. DW, are you allowing this? Can you not hear this? What's happening?
>> No, sir.
>> What is turning everyone's chickpe attitude? It's like a bully.
>> Oh, please, please, please, Carl, just for one moment. Please, I'll I'll come to I'll come to you in a moment. I'll come to you in a moment, Carl. I'll come to you in a moment.
>> El Perro is talking. Chippy. Uh, Chippy has been upset by El Pero coming on her.
El Pero.
>> You won't mind me taking Chip's. You won't mind me taking Chip's side here because >> you know El Pero me get on. Okay. In the past. I can take Chip side here.
Behavior guys. Come on. Guru just guru guru. Guru calm down son. Calm down. I'm not let's let's try and get some peace in this conversation. You're dominating it by >> No, you are. You are. You are. You are.
Because it's not all It's not the greatest guru show.
>> Actually, he's right. Actually, he's right. Actually, he's right.
>> Actually, he's right.
>> He's dominating the conversations.
>> Yes, you are.
>> And everybody else wants Everybody else wants to horrendous.
>> No. No, he's saying I am on promotions.
>> Yeah, I I am saying you are DW but you're acting like Chickpea. You and Chickpea act the same. You're likeing I siding with Chickp and I agree. Okay.
Just tell me what Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
>> Can I just say something? OKAY. GO BACK TO that we started. Okay. And you'll find something. I don't want to be >> He started it. Carl. Carl. He started it. He didn't. No, he didn't. I mean, he's entire he's entitled. He's entitled to come on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
No, he didn't.
>> You weren't here.
>> Shouldn't be excused. At the end of the day, he is. We've all been assessing this and from the outside, this behavior is disgusting. It's notice. It's psychosis. What you allowing DW It's narcissist. It's not It's not It's not a claim. I've been watching it and I can show you why.
>> Is this the real Carl talking? Is this the real Carl talking? Are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure, son?
>> Are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure?
>> Why are you doing this? Why you doing?
>> Because you're the one coming on here putting on a different persona, playing with us, playing with our emotions.
Every day you come on here.
>> You're delusional.
>> See, that's And see, that's part of the problem. Let me let me say something real quick. Can >> Sorry. Listen, let >> Okay. So, when I listen to comments, and this is directed at you, Alyssa. I want you to pay attention cuz this is not a a dig or anything. This is a matter of mentality, folks. So, when Alyssa says in the comments that chickpea is bullying, that can be your perspective.
But that's not nice.
>> Let me >> Okay, so let me El Pero is not being El Pero is not being bullied. El Pero says he's not being bullied. He is not being El Pero is a strong man. How dare you?
How How dare you feel say that Al Pero could be bullied? He's a fully grown man. Who said that?
>> You're saying she's bullying. She's not bullying. He's a fully grown man. He's a very capable man. Intellectual. He can stand on his own two feet. You're making him sound like You're making him sound like an innocent boy or an innocent child. He's not.
>> You are. You are. And everybody How dare you? How dare you?
Every and everybody on panel got emotional except me.
>> No, I didn't get emotional.
Alero, El Pero, you're not being bullied. Alpero will not be bullied.
He's a fully grown man. He's coming on here. He's able to defend himself. How dare you? How dare you?
>> What the [ __ ] What? Why? What? You emasculate this poor man live on air saying he's being bullied. He's a man able to defend himself. He can stand on his own two feet. He's the one who doesn't need a carer.
>> Damastro. That was my intention. What is doing?
He's saying someone saying you were getting bullied and saying Chickpe is acting like a bully. No one said you was being bullied. Forcing that action. This is that hasn't been >> Yeah. Can we get back to my point so I can l Because that is not the issue.
Yeah, >> he is absolutely right. You cannot bully me because I do not take it as bullying.
>> I wrote it in the comments.
>> No, you wrote that is bullying, not >> in a bullish manner. Yeah.
>> Sorry. We were just looking up to you, bro.
>> Now you're bully. Now you're bullying him, telling him what he's thinking. Let the man [ __ ] talk.
>> How's that bullying? I don't get it.
>> You're speaking for him. You're telling him what he's doing. Allow him to tell you what he's doing.
>> But but I'm not I'm telling what I'm not doing.
>> Absolutely right. But it's not >> What about you at this time telling me what I was doing? I say that's not what I'm doing. But then I'm telling you the >> speaker is trying to get his point across and you keep interrupting. Let the speaker get his point across and then you can speak.
>> I'm interrupting. You're telling the truth, you idiot. You're telling the truth. Are you now? Who's the bully?
See, see, see, see. A virtue signaling piece of [ __ ] comes on the show, calls other people bullies, and then he calls the person who he viewed as a victim of bullying an idiot.
>> He he calls the person who he views as a victim of bullying an idiot. About a minute later, you are some piece of work, Mr. Cole, Guru, whatever the [ __ ] your name is.
>> Watch this. And watch this reflection.
Watch this reflection. Watch this reflection. Watch this reflection saying things I didn't say.
>> Watch this reflection when he can shut up. Watch this reflection. Watch this reflection when he can shut up.
>> Going to help me. No, I'm struggling.
I'm saying I'm struggling, guys. Can you help me? I don't know what's God's going on. I've got Carl in my thing. Not crazy guru. Why are you treating me like guru for change to change to a guru right now?
So, so that you can have like a good combat with with El Po, man.
>> No, I can't I I can't I'm not ready for that, babe. I wouldn't force you to be something you wouldn't be. I could You're not doing that to me. You You're just asking. Yeah. I can't do that. I'm saying I I don't get what's going on.
>> His conversation is not more important than the conversation was being bullied. But that's been said what's happening. I I don't get what's going on. I'm confused.
>> What's happening is you still keep running your mouth and refuse to let me land my plane. That's what's happening.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Because you're not listening. I'm saying that I DIDN'T SAY >> BECAUSE I'M NOT LISTENING. BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE [ __ ] SPEAKING, YOU DUMBASS.
RIGHT. One second, guys. I'm going to bring everyone backstage so we can all cool down except for Cole and El Pero.
We're going to let them talk to each other for a moment. Chickpe, I'm going to go backstage because you know what, Carl? You've come on here. You've swung your nuts around, but all you've proven to me is >> you need to get out more because you don't know how to socialize. So, >> I wasn't trying to prove anything to you. That's a good thing. Alto, what what I meant was I my opinion is I did want to listen to you. I don't care what you meant until you give me the decency and respect to finish my point and land my plane so then I can listen to you.
Until you give me the respect of listening to me, I will not give you the respect of listening to you. Is that understood?
>> Slightly. The only difference is >> OR WHOLLY IS IT UNDERSTOOD? YOU LET ME FINISH SPEAKING AND THEN I WILL LISTEN TO YOU. IS THAT SIMPLE ENOUGH?
>> NO, not for me because I have a different IQ to you.
>> Good day.
What? That was a bit ignorant. I I was listening to him. I said, "I have a different IQ."
>> So So Guru Guru, you basically pissed him off, scared him away, >> and this is quite a common occurrence, unfortunately. Uh >> Dana, can you explain what I thought happened? What I thought just happened is he wanted to force me to see. came on here. You m you feminized the poor man live on air saying he was being bullied by a woman.
>> I didn't Are you messing with me? You joking me.
Yeah.
>> The man got annoyed. The man got annoyed by you.
>> Question I'm asking you. You keep assuming you keep saying that I You keep stomaning something I said earlier by saying I said he was being bullied and I never Carl. Car call Carl. Carl look the point is your words hit the man in the heart. You saw the way he reacted. You saw the way he reacted. Cole, you didn't do a good job.
>> I don't understand what what DMW is doing. He's not answering me. He's >> You're about as diplomatic as a sledgehammer.
>> What's going on? I don't Please, someone help me. I I've got to leave. Let's say I got to go off like he's he's manipulating. What?
>> Uh Grazy, you crazy. Grazy, go backstage if you want to. Elero says he was forcing no one. He was speaking and got interrupted and no one would have El Pero. I will allow El Pero to speak and I'll take everyone backstage. I'll take everyone backstage.
>> Come back on, brother.
>> You're the host and you're not doing this correctly. You're causing >> All right. Go Carl. Go ahead. Go ahead, Carl. You have You have the mic. Go ahead.
>> DW, please, can you explain to me why do you keep insinuating something and I've told you a bunch of times I'm doing it, but you're forcing it. It's like you won't listen to me. I've told you several times I didn't say that about him. It's like you're manipulating. Like you're purposely doing it. That's narcissism. Why do you keep saying something that didn't happen? Why are you doing that? Are you trying to manipulate me? Trying to get me angry or something? What are you doing? You're not What makes you my psychologist? Why are you doing this?
>> And you did the same to me, Carl.
>> I'm talking my question.
>> Have a big dollop. Have a big dollop of your own medicine. Carl, >> don't get it. What do you mean? What?
When do I do this to people?
>> Chew on that, baby.
>> I don't understand. This isn't explaining anything to me.
>> I I I don't get What does that mean? Can someone help me? Why is everybody just quiet and what's going on?
>> This is messing my head up a bit.
>> Yeah, I know. It's messing my head up a little bit, guys. I'm sorry. This is [ __ ] with me. I don't understand what's going on. It's like I What?
This is a trick. Yeah, you're all just silent. Just what?
Can you come back on, brother? It would be good to have you here. Uh El Pero says you did it to him. Um Carl, you did it to him. what you're saying I'm doing and what you're saying everyone else is doing. You are projecting your own.
>> Yeah, I will say no, they didn't.
>> You respond to others.
>> I have a different IQ to you. So, no, I can't do it.
>> I don't give a [ __ ] what your IQ is. I'm talking about common decency. If you haven't got that for common decency, >> go back to school. Go back to school, son.
>> Oh, yeah. That's it. Somebody who doesn't think like you, just [ __ ] tell them, "Yeah, you haven't got common decency cuz you can't think like me. Go back to That's It just feels like a psychological [ __ ] trick. This is all right. Look, Cole, you say that.
Look, the mic is yours. I'm going to shut up. I literally am. Don't ask me [ __ ] questions because if you ask me questions, I'm going to talk.
>> I'm going to give you as a few minutes to to to take your take a breath and talk >> and give your side of matters >> and explain to us why you came on here claiming a fully grown man was getting bullied by a 70 plus year old woman. W you're doing it.
>> How dare you? How dare you?
>> I got to go. This is [ __ ] up.
>> Hello, Fatima.
>> Dimma.
>> He's gone. Damn. Hi, JP. Hi, everyone.
How's everyone doing?
>> Well, that cleared them all out. I don't know why. I don't know why. That was quite the start to the show. It's Junior.
>> He's welcome to come back. But I I did I did say Alyssa, he's welcome to come back. I did say he could have the mic and I'd clear off for a few minutes. I did say that. He didn't want to do that.
But >> But do you >> two minutes of loving words me off my own stream? And it's not Chickpea. I I know I know Chickpea is a wicked witch or white witch, but it's not her. Aman is kicking me off my own stream now and again. It's really weird.
It's not you, Cougar Doomer, is it? Uh, Cougar Doomer here is a wizard.
>> I don't recall starting an argument with him. Did I start an argument with him? I don't recall it. Maybe I'm losing my marbles.
>> Which one? Carl >> Fatty says it seems like he has a psychological personality disorder and and the wife is an enabler.
>> I'm talking about that. I'm not going to I'm not going to say it is that, but that's what you think it seems like. I don't know what it is.
>> Oh, no. He's back.
>> Let's not make any claim.
>> El Pero, what do you want to say? And I don't, by the way, I'm little I'm Chickpe's little rock violet today, so don't talk to Chickpea.
>> You can talk You can talk You can talk about Mr. Grazy who came on here.
>> Uh, what do you think went on there with >> No, I'm talking about what I see and it and it involves everybody. What I see is a bunch of white night virtue signaling validation and group think safe spaces.
And if you think I'm the one of weak mind, that's fine. I'm okay with that, too, because it doesn't affect me. I know who I am. I know what I'm about.
You and your virtue signaling that you do more for the animals on earth than anybody else and and certainly most certainly me. That's fine because I see it for the the virtue signaling for validation from the rest of the group as they see it as bullying and they want to side with you or whatever. It doesn't matter to me. I'm not in this popularity contest. I don't give a [ __ ] about the false patriarchs. I don't give a [ __ ] about the false matriarchs. I see reality for what it is. I observe the real world. I disconnect from this internet thing and get out there and do my thing as I've always done since I was a little boy with mud squish between my toes.
>> Now you said to me and what have you what good do you do in this world? You said >> No, that's what you said. No, that's what you ASKED OF ME.
>> YOU DID.
>> NO, YOU ASKED THAT OF ME. YOU ASKED THAT OF ME. I NEVER ASKED YOU WHAT YOU DID.
IT'S NOT MY CONCERN.
>> You did say something to me along those terms about.
>> NO, I DIDN'T. GO BACK AND REWIND. THAT IS YOUR DELUSIONAL SAFE SPACE.
Everybody's attack. I never said anything of the >> way. As far as I'm concerned, you're a nasty meat eatating [ __ ] bag. And as far as I'm concerned, you don't count. Okay.
And you're ugly as well.
>> That's and that's a great opinion to have singularly. I am sure there are many people that would disagree with you. That's why it doesn't BOTHER ME ONE BIT WITH YOUR OPINION. It really doesn't matter.
>> You're so full of yourself. It doesn't matter.
>> And when you when you speak your opinion and when you speak your opinions like that, it's in the minds of people that have real discernment that it will soak into.
treat people like [ __ ] but you expect us to be all nice and sweet to you.
That's you, isn't it?
>> No, I don't expect to cuz I'll call you a [ __ ] just as quick as you'll call me a bastard. I don't give a [ __ ] about emotions. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
>> OH, you screaming. I've got it. I've got it. That's why you me don't get on because I'm very emotional. Oh, I've got it now. It's okay. Toodle tip.
Okay, moving on. Um, in other news, uh, oh, no, no, Christine, you're on the Finding Noses show. Um, are you there?
You're muted.
Pristine, she always does this to me.
She leaves me hanging. Uh, oh well. Oh well. Oh well. We'll move to Fatima.
Fatima, uh, you're on the Finding Nosis show.
>> Yeah.
>> Right.
>> Yes.
>> Okay, good. Now, Fatima, um, let's just say this is a a thought experiment.
>> I I hope it never happens to you.
Someone has tied you to a chair. You're sitting there with your hands tied behind your back and your feet tied and uh, yeah, you're tied to the chair.
They're pointing a gun at you. The the gun is around 6 in from your forehead.
You know what's about to happen. Your brains are about to be blown into smitherines.
Um, yeah, your head's about to be blown open.
>> But the the the the assassin, the executioner says to you, you know, he gives you an opportunity. He says, "Look, what's your last words?
>> What's my last words?" Uh, >> and now now he also says he's going to share those words on the internet. So, this is a this is an opportunity for you. I I mean, you got to make the most out of turn a negative into a positive, I suppose. Um, but the point is you're going to die. You haven't got long left.
I want to see what really comes to the four. What matters? What matters? Don't speak glibly here, Fatim. Take a moment to really imagine the scene. You know, you're about to die. This is your final moment. This is all you have left to express something. Don't waste it. Do not waste this.
What are you going to say? Take. Please.
I'm going to give you time cuz the execution is is is a gentleman. He gives you a bit of time as well. But you are going to die soon. So [ __ ] take it seriously.
>> So okay.
>> Well, I'm only 25, so I can't really I don't know, man. Like I guess like uh go [ __ ] yourself. I don't know. To like the guy.
>> I don't know, bro.
>> That's That's it.
>> Yeah. Like >> go [ __ ] yourself. Your last words.
Yeah, exactly. Like >> that's a poor show, Fatima. That's a poor show.
>> That's a [ __ ] somebody with your brains, your intellect, you know, your your level of reading, your level of comprehension.
>> That's all you'd say? [ __ ] yourself.
>> Okay, I I was I was going to say like something that was like stupid, you know, unless you want to hear that.
Well, before you tell me that, uh, Cougar Doom, do come on here and, uh, yeah, give us your opinion, please. Link is in the chat.
>> What would you say? Sorry.
>> Alhamdulillah. I don't know.
>> What's that?
>> That's all you're going to say.
>> What's that word?
What's that word you used?
>> Alhamdulillah. It means like >> praise to God.
>> Praise to God in >> Yeah.
>> Isn't it?
>> So that So, okay. Okay, but look, we're going to analyze this because that's what matters to you, Fatima. And therefore, that may well be something to do with what the hell's going on in this train's existence because the last thing you say, the last thing you think about could be the piece of the puzzle we need. So maybe for you, Fatima, uh, you've said God, Chickpe has said cats.
Maybe these are integral pieces of the puzzle that we need to find out what the hell is going on here. Cuz if these things matter immensely, they're either really good for us or they're some kind of trick to make us uh be uh immersed in thinking about them when there's other stuff going on behind the scenes. So, so far we've got cats and God to think about. What about you, Pristine? If you are there, anybody else do come on links in the chat. Um El Pero, I I can't really remember your answer, mate. Well, yeah. I was just going to say you forgot about me then and pointing out that you are Hitler's willing executioner. As long as this keeps happening, you are the one doing it. It's not God and it's not the cats. It's you.
>> When are you going to start taking responsibility for your actions?
>> What the [ __ ] he talking about?
>> Uh is that is that you >> Hold on. Hold on a sec.
>> Are you talking to me or the executioner here? cuz I'm a bit confused.
>> I'm talking about you.
>> All right. Okay, fair enough. We were entitled to your opinion, sir. But I I want to go back to the thought experiment. What would you say in a scenario that I painted there? What would you say to the executioner who says to you, tell us what are your last words?
>> I just got done saying it.
>> My entire life, I've been pointing it out with this mustache. You are Hitler's willing executioner. You're not doing this for yourself. You're doing it because somebody else told you to pull that trigger. Because in your heart, you know you don't want to pull that trigger. You're only doing it because somebody else pays you under your [ __ ] ass slavelement.
>> This is [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Thank you, El Pero. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much. Okay. Uh Christine.
Christine. Christine's back with her snide little commentary under her breath. Christine, you're on the Finding Nosis show.
>> Uh, someone someone has gone to your head, Christine, under the the same unfortunate circumstances. Uh, now they have been gentlemanly enough to give you an opportunity to say your last words, they've made somewhat of an occasion of it. So um given the fact that this is your last moment, this is this this is this is going to be all the time left you have to express something. What are you choosing to express with those words? What are you going to say? What are your last words before you will die?
>> Where is this hypothetical situation coming from? Like what made you come to this con?
>> That's a good question.
>> I I've I this is just the weirdest question I've ever like had asked to me in my life. It's just bizarre. Like none of us are getting executed. Not one of us are getting executed ever. So I >> I'm just I don't understand.
>> What would I say? I probably >> enter into the spirit of the show. Now let let me let me tell you why. It was it was it was the start of a thought experiment to perhaps start a philosophical inquiry into what actually matters because pristine >> if you were to take this thought experiment seriously and really put yourself in that scenario and imagine if you have an imagination. Imagine imagine imagine being in that situation. You are going to die. You only have a few moments to say something. What are you going to say? And I put it to you that what you say may be reflective of what actually matters to you. And what matters to you, what matters to you may help us find out what is going on.
Because if we can all collectively analyze what actually matters to us because I believe what what matters to you will really come up in those last moments perhaps. I I don't know for sure, but perhaps you know >> and therefore that may be that may be that may be something to do with what's going on.
>> You know what I would say? I would say see you [ __ ] in about 15 minutes when you revive me because that's what they actually do. Yep. They keep all those psychos trapped in some kind of weird experimental building and uh no one knows about. They just revive them. It's all for show. It's all a theater. They don't actually kill anyone. But anyways, um no, if if they were actually to kill me, I'd say, "Well, coffee breaks over.
I'm going back to be cog in the machine." And this was definitely a [ __ ] insane coffee break and I didn't like it. And uh yeah, see you [ __ ] in the next one.
>> And none of you are real either. None of you are real.
>> Cougar Juma, do come on, tell us about that, brother. That's interesting. So Christine, your last words would be none of you are real. None of this is real.
Is that what you'd say?
>> Yep. I would say that. None of you are real.
>> Yeah. Why? Why? Why in tarnation would you say that?
>> Because as soon as you die, they cease to exist. So, they're not real anymore.
>> Oh, that's very, very deep. Fatima, that is extremely deep, isn't it?
>> Is it?
>> Yes.
>> Did you hear what she just said?
>> Yeah, I know what she said. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yes. A little a little a little a little perhaps perhaps perhaps a little solopistic, >> but deep all the same.
>> Well, none of it's real. We all know that. It's just a load of atoms vibrating. That's all it is.
>> Yeah, that's >> also like here's the thing.
>> That's a crazy just load of atoms vibrating.
>> All it is.
>> Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. And also DNW, none of our individual lives really matter in the grand scheme of things. So why would they be filming us DNW? Who who are they going to share it to? Like I I like I don't know.
>> DWamothetically.
>> Exactly. Haven't you people got a [ __ ] imagination? Seriously, I wonder sometimes.
>> Hypothetic. But Christine, okay, tell me this.
>> Do you people have a Do you people have a mind's eye? Can you see things inside like other than what you see with your eyes?
>> And that begs to ask. And that begs to ask, why would somebody else care so much about your life to be their nose deep up your ass? See, why would somebody else care so much about your life that they would be willing to take up arms and execute you for someone else? Why would that person be so interested in your life or so involved in your life, they don't even know you?
>> Uh, yes.
>> Good question. It's a good question.
>> Christie, can I ask you something?
>> Sorry, Robin. Robin Robin is waiting patiently. Robin, we will come to you, darling. We will come to you.
>> Put in the chat, please. Put in the chat.
>> No, I'll ask you. Can I ask Christine something?
>> Imagine Christine, you're walking down the road, okay? And a bloke comes up to you and says to you, "Get out of my bleeping way, you effing white sea."
Imagine someone did that to you and then stood right on touching your body on the pavement, right? What would you do then?
>> Call the police. No, I don't know.
>> Well, yes, a good one, isn't it? Because But what would you do? Because, you know, it's happened to me where I live.
It's actually happened to me. I stood my ground. I don't know where I got the courage from, but I just stood my ground. I can't quite believe I stood my ground the way I did. And eventually, he walked around me. But this actually happened. But it's Yeah. Men, aren't men lovely? Sometimes they can be real dolls, can't they?
>> He was quite my all right. But I can't believe I stood my ground actually. But I did. Yeah.
>> Well, that good on you, Chickp, for standing your ground. And I'm glad that it actually worked out for you and and you weren't harmed and the guy just kept on walking because Yeah, they're just they're on a power trip and >> it's it's a mental illness that they have. Anyways, Robin, go ahead. Hello.
>> Yeah, I surprised myself.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah, Robin, welcome darling. You're on the fine laser show. Wonderful to have you here as always. Uh, Robin, perhaps you all take the, um, the thought experiment seriously. Um, uh, Chickpea did in fairness. Elpro did, but Fatima and, uh, Pristine scoffed at it for whatever reason. They were not impressed. It is just a thought experiment to get your thinking juices going to perhaps um you know encourage some philosophical thought related to what matters you know and then hopefully from you know discovering what really matters we might be able to find out what is actually going on. Robin do you get where I was coming to coming from with this topic? I know Pine seems to think it's a bit too strange. It's a bit out there, but you get where I'm coming from on this one.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a thought experiment. And um I I probably my answer is going to be a little tainted because of something I read in chat as soon as I come in. Of course, there was this um suffer not a witch to live statement like soon as I came in in chat. So, I would say that probably if I'm going to be executed, it would probably be one of those crazy people that used to like execute people they thought were witches. Um, because I used to be one of those. And so, like, I would probably just say a nice fail to put a curse on them. Um, even though I didn't not necessarily think it was going to, but put a curse on them, but I would want to leave them with that curse. So, thank you, Mike, for in inspiring my answer.
>> Wow. Uh, would you like to repeat that again? Sorry, just for those of us that um weren't all there at the time that you were speaking, >> but did I cut out?
>> No. No. My my attention got diverted because Global Solidarity is saying something weird in the chat and I have no idea what he's on about. Global Global Solidarity says, "Does DNW know of the CD co-host?" I I I don't know what the hell you're going on about Global Solidarity. Sorry, Robin. Go ahead.
>> I I said that I would uh I would probably because when I came in to chat, there was a comment that said, "Suffer not a witch to live."
I said I would probably say a nice spell for people who are because that's probably why I would be being executed by one of those crazy people that uh used to execute widgets and >> ah I get you now.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. And I said thank you Mike for inspiring my answer because I would leave him with a nice curse.
>> So you would curse you'd curse at the likes of Mike.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Even though I don't believe I don't believe in words.
>> What What would you say to the likes of Mike?
>> Oh, I don't know. I probably something in a foreign language. Of course, it would be much better if it was in just like some kind of nonsense language. So, and I don't know a foreign language, but I can probably make one up real quick.
>> Okay. Well, make make one up and Yeah, make one up and direct it towards Mike, not me, please.
>> Oh, well, I won't I won't I won't do that right now. I don't like he might decide that go ahead and do the execution if he thinks I'm cursing on the internet.
>> Oh, good point. Good point. Yeah, you never know.
>> I must know witchcraft. I must tell you a funny story actually about witchcraft.
Many many years ago I work this law firm in the city and I had this book on witchcraft. So I decided to set a spell on one of the guys that I fancied. Okay.
So I started every night I'd go home and set a spell my candles and everything.
But after about four days, he started lurking around my desk and everything.
It was the weirdest weirdest thing. It was a spell. I stopped doing it as soon as I saw it was working, but it actually works.
>> Actually works.
>> I I knew I do know >> actually works.
>> I do know this much about it.
>> Yeah. Um like when you like say that I put a spell on somebody like I I say a spell and you know it >> if you believe in it it is going it it will it will affect you in a way not necessarily through supernatural means but it it plays on your psyche >> and so that that that is the the part that I was referring to right there.
>> Yeah.
>> But it was weird. He started lurking around my desk and everything and I said, "Oh my god, no, it's working." I stopped it there and then cuz I got scared at what I was doing.
>> Okay, ladies, thank you for that little extra in um little back and forth. Um Cougaruma, you are live on the fighting lot sir. It's good to have you here. Um we are talking about this thought experiment.
Kouguma, you've been tied to your share chair. Sorry. Um maybe down in your basement and uh someone is standing in front of you with a gun pointed to your head.
Now you know you're a logical man. You know what's about to happen. Um you haven't got long left. The same executioner looks you in the eyes and and says, "What are your last words? I'm going to record them and put them out on the internet so everybody hears them.
Cougaruma, what are you going to say under such dreadful circumstances? Uh, someone is uh I'm going to mute you, Chippy, because we can hear your keystrokes. Uh, go ahead, uh, Cougaruma.
>> Yeah. Hi. Um, well, I would say to that person, I would say this changes nothing. You're next. Have a nice day.
Wow.
And what why why would you say that?
Because that to me that wasn't if if people didn't know you, they might think you were doing some kind of weird reverse psychology thing to try and get saved because you know it might be that the the executioner goes, "What do you mean by that?" And then somehow you get him you psychologically manipulate him to free you. You make up some kind of story. But that is not what you're getting at, is it, Kugaduma?
>> No. No. Um, I wouldn't I wouldn't care at all about what he thinks or what he does next. I'm simply stating this change is nothing. Don't kill me. Don't kill me. This change is nothing and you're next and have a nice day. Um, and what I mean by he's next is well, you know what? I don't even want to go into it. Um, because that would be changing the topic. So, but that's my answer.
>> No, it's fine. It's fine. It's it's [ __ ] It may well be the nosis we seek cuz we're trying to find out what matters. And this whole thought experiment was to find out what actually matters. Uh so maybe this is very important information. So go ahead.
>> What about your wife? What about your wife and your pets?
>> Well, there okay. There's nothing I can do to save my wife. if I'm the one who's tied to a chair and I want to be executed that she's not in the room or if she is there's nothing I can do to save her. I can't do anything for her at all. It's up to somebody else.
>> Okay. No, cuz if when if it were to happen to me, I'd be worried about my cats. I would be worried about anything.
>> Yes. See, I I I I would not be if I'm leaving the world, then my worries are over. Period.
>> Fair enough.
>> Full stop.
>> No. Yeah, >> I have no worries. I'm about to leave the world. And it wouldn't matter to me if it was in the scenario being described or if I was waiting into battle, you know, and I was overwhelmed and it was 100 to one and I'm about to die. Then I would say to myself, well, my problems are over now and I'm going to do what I have to do and my problems are over. And you know, the world the world then belongs to someone who comes after me and maybe it's the person who kills me inherits the world. Now the world is their problem. It's not my problem anymore. I have no problems now.
>> I've got I've got it right now.
>> Wow. So, this kind of is kind of like uh that's deep. So, basically, you're kind of Well, you're saying that death is somewhat of a liberation.
>> Well, it's I wouldn't say it's a liberation because I would if I if I had a chance to avoid death, I would I would not seek liberation. Okay. Um I because I don't consider life to be painful or difficult. It's challenging and that's all it is and I rise to the challenge and and and so so I would but if I if if I can't avoid death which is the proposal on table then then my philosophy changes completely which is like well the world is no longer my problem and I have a thing to do here and I have to accept this and >> I I am leaving the stage and you know I I don't know that's just how I would feel about it and and to be honest I think that if animals have thoughts and and a theory of mind. And if animals can look into the eye of the thing that's about to kill them, I think that that's maybe what they think. Well, I'm done. And I was going to be done someday anyway. And this is how I'm being done today. So, I'm done. I I don't know. I'm I'm just I'm just projecting.
I tell you girls, watch them. It's been a horrible video released uh in the past few days that will show you animals fighting and fighting for their lives.
It's a heartbreaker to see.
Unfortunately, it's been um banned off the internet as usual, but animals fight for their lives more so than we do, don't they, Grumps? DW, >> they do. They do. They do. But, uh you know what? You know what, chickpea?
Even with animals, and I'm I'm sorry to say this, even with animals, they somehow sometimes come to the same you can tell they come to the same conclusion as Cougar Duma. It's not that they give up. They accept their fate.
>> Hey D&W, I have a question for you. Uh, >> do do you know what I'm saying? Cougar, have you seen that ever with a wild animal? Sometimes they >> when they're when they're in a when they're when they're caught when they're in a dire situation, >> you know, they seem to kind of accept it. Sometimes they go through that they they go through a range of it seems they're going through a range of emotions before they get to that point.
>> Yeah.
>> Sure.
>> But they and parent and and and parent animals, especially the mother animal, will fight on behalf of her offspring.
You know she will feel she will fight to the bitter end.
>> Yes. Literally. Yes.
But >> but in a different scenario she will fight for herself >> but Gibs generally speaking when an animal gets caught it's already on its way down anyway. You know a healthy mouse will not be caught by a cat and it won't be.
It's the ones that are already on the downhill thing.
And I've noticed it with my cats and birds and things. They don't catch a healthy bird. Just the ones that are already sickly. I've noticed that with all the cats I've got.
>> Just saying.
>> Right. Right. Uh but does is there anything Cougar Duma said, guys, that might help us all in in in finding out what what's going on? Because he kind of he said something he said a lot there in that little bit that he said. And one of the things was that stuck out for me was, you know, he he first of all, he he's not the type of man that sees life as depressing or anything like that.
It's a challenge. But he said his problem his problems are over now. And what he meant by that is he's not the one who has to think about what's going on and direct the ship, you know, and in many ways that is a bit of a burden. But he he's saying that is what is going on here. Cougar is is that it? So, that's kind of what's going on, Cougar. Like, you you're you're you're trying to lessen the struggle, lessen the pain, and and uh that is kind of what's going on. You're you're you're try you're you're you're captain off a ship, and you're um finding out what's going on at the same time trying to make it okay.
That's what I what I got from what you said.
>> Yes, I I think that's true. Um, I think that maybe it's um maybe it's because I have what is called a well-ordered mind that I don't I don't pursue phantoms.
And when you know you're about to die, then life has just become a phantom. And there's no sense in pursuing it. You you you a mind like mine will say, "Ah, so this is the this is this is the this is the moment. This is the moment that everyone must face." And then I stop chasing the phantom of life and I have no problem at that point. Not even death. Death is not even a problem for me at that point. It's just not to death itself and the and and the avoidance of death and the pursuit of life. These are all aspects of being alive. When you're dead or just on the verge of death and you're about to die, then life is no longer your problem. Death isn't even your problem. Death is only a problem for those who are alive. You're dead now or momentarily will be. And so life and the fears of life and the fears of death and all the problems you had and all the things you had to solve, those are all problems for living people. You're dead.
That's not a problem for you anymore.
I wanted to ask what DNW's own last words be, but I think he has to step out.
Yeah. Go on. What are yours? What's your words, Grumps?
DMW, >> you told me I had to step out, huh? It's whatever.
>> Yeah. I I want I want to clarify something else completely off the topic.
Um Global was just in the chat. Um and he confused whoever that person is confused. DNW. Um, my wife was actually on my channel a couple of nights ago or actually last night she was on twice last night because her first stream got messed up and she does a very different stream than I do and Global will say that he was enjoying her just narrating her day which she definitely does do.
Uh, so she's a very she has a very different take on all the things that happen in our in our shared life. Uh, I am you know definitely the forward thinker. uh we have long detailed conversations about the things I talk about, but when she goes when she goes live, she just talks about her day, her woman's day, her work in the garden, and her meeting people and her children. And I think it's very sweet and anytime she wants to get on there, I certainly encourage her to do that. So, she's kind of a co-host on the channel, and uh I just wanted to clear that up for anybody who was confused by what Global was saying.
>> Oh, all right. Okay. Yeah.
So, Cuka, what's your take for this summer? What ahead of us?
Just asking you.
>> Okay, Tiffy, you'll have to repeat that.
>> What's do you think's ahead of us weatherwise this summer? Are we in for a bad summer? I.e. I mean, hot.
>> Is it going to be like scorching hellh?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Well, it's hard to say. Um because of the approaching El Nino event, which is going to be >> a real ball buster apparently. Uh that's that's not consensus and and yeah I appreciate I'm just trying to build some context around my answer before I just jump in and say something will take people by surprise.
Uh this is 26 2026 is also already projected will be the hottest year >> in human history. Yeah. Say heard this.
Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So say that every other year prior. Like I can't like I'm not trying to >> Oh, they do. No, no, no, no. You you you've caught up to something. Yes. They say that every other year. Uh let me say it differently. 2023 was the hottest year on record up to that date. Then 2025 was the hottest year on record up to that date. And 2026 will be the hottest year on record up to that point.
>> Okay.
So what you're So >> yeah. So what you're thinking is every year they claim the same thing. Well, that's because every year the earth keeps getting hotter.
>> Yeah.
>> This is global heating.
>> So if you want data it the fact that they keep repeating themselves every year. That's data. They're telling you every year is hotter than the year before or really any year before. all the years before in human history, all recorded human history, 2026 will be the hottest year ever, forever for all of that. Now, to answer the question, what can we expect this summer? Well, it depends on where you are. So, uh I actually did a video a while back a few days ago, uh it turned out to be hugely popular.
It kind of went viral about the uh uh Elino update April 24th. And I actually did some queries and asked the AI, so ba based on what we saw in 2015, 2016 when there was also a strong El Nino, what should we expect for certain parts of the planet going forward into another strong Elino?
And it varies. It really does. Uh takeaways are things like uh India, South Asia, Southeast Asia, including Indonesia and Australia will probably have record heat and record fires because that has happened many times in the past. So that's just a that's just a forecast from past past known events. Uh the US south the US south and southeast is currently in a uh unsustainable drought which I didn't even know until I saw the chart.
>> Yeah.
>> I saw saw it being discussed >> and that might turn around because sometimes El Nino when it hits the North America brings heavy rains to the to the southwest and the southeast. So maybe that'll turn around. But it's also true when you have, and this is a general rule, whenever you have high heat on the planet Earth, continental interiors tend to dry out and get hot. So, well, here's what's going to happen, folks. We're about to find out. When I did my video, it was less about here's all the predictions for your area, your region. It was more about, okay, you just need to understand that this could get ugly and lethal. So, have a plan.
Know where your cooling centers are going to be. If you don't have colle centers in your community, then then find some way to get out. Just find find somewhere you can go whether you well you will be taken care of. And also if you have uh friends or relatives that you know are maybe a little more disconnected from emergency situations, they're old or they're a parent with small children and they're occupied, you just give them a call. You know, when you know the heat's coming, just call and say, "Hey, how you doing? You know, does the air conditioner work?" While I'm on the phone, go turn it on. See if it works. you know, just kind of walk people through this who maybe don't really know what what to do. That was my that was the takeaway on that entire video. So now you don't even have to watch it.
>> Okay.
>> I don't know if that if that that I don't know if that helps you, Chip, or not. But I know what you're thinking because I tell you something. I haven't used my central heating now for several years.
>> Haven't even heating on.
>> Yeah. Now, different qu different question though, chickpea. Uh, you're an elder. So am I. So I so we can have we can have this conversation. Okay. Do you have cooling?
>> Yes, I've got cold.
>> Does it work?
>> Yes. Does it work?
>> Works.
>> Okay. Good. Good. Now, now I don't have to worry about you. But what I what I want you to do, of course, is remember to turn it on on the hot days. Okay.
>> Don't worry, G. Don't worry, Cucker.
It's in the summer. It's on 24/7.
>> Good.
I'm I'm glad to hear that. Now, if you have elderly friends in your neighborhood, people that maybe you care about, you ask them the same question I just asked you. And if they don't answer in the affirmative, yes, I have an air conditioner and I know it works. You may, and I don't want to tell you what to do, okay? Because I know a little bit about how you are, but I'm just asking you. You may want to offer people a refuge if they don't think that they're going to be able to stand the heat. That That's all. I'm just putting that out there.
>> Yeah. Oh, my local library, which is 100 yards away, has um special places for people who haven't got um their own cold um machine, own air con and things.
There's a special place.
>> Yeah. I'm I'm glad I'm glad to hear that. Sounds like your community is on top of things. That That's a That's a relief for me. But for anyone else on the stream or anyone else who watches this later, uh just ask the basic questions of your community and of your neighbors and anyone you care about, are you going to be able to survive this?
Because the reason I'm making this recommendation is that this summer, well, this year, including this summer, will be the hottest year in human history. And we please take this seriously. Just take it seriously.
>> That's all I'm asking.
>> I I've got a feeling it's going to be a hard summer. Strange feeling.
I really have and I found as I get older and you know we have to be careful of cou as we get older we don't persspire properly do you know that so we can't >> yeah and and the same problem applies to uh very very young children I didn't even know that >> they can't regulate so the mothers the parents have to be very very aware of what their children are under uh what what they're experiencing >> yeah I'm very worried about my cats because I've got my tom cat likes to go out to play and I'm really because I lost a cat about four or five years ago to heat stroke.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, you you can't do much with cats, okay? We have to all recognize that they're going to do whatever they want to do. And if you can and >> if you can try to keep them in during the hottest part of the day, well, they may hate you for it, but that's that's your responsibility as a pet owner >> to do the right thing for your animals.
>> They're a devil to keep in. Absolute devil.
>> Yes. Well, well, in the end, like I like to say, it's all best effort, okay? So, do the best you can and don't worry about anything that falls through the cracks.
>> Oh, I'm not worried about the summer.
I've got loads of cold. I've got plenty of stuff.
Have plenty.
>> All right.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> So, so, so does anyone else have a question related to that? Otherwise, we can drop the topic.
Well, it's winter over here, so well, it's it's moving in that direction >> in Australia, >> right?
>> I don't know if you have any any insight on Australian weather, but my dad was a volunteer firefighter for many years.
>> All right.
>> What year was regarding Australia? What year was the Black Summer?
>> Black Summer was >> when when everything burned.
Well, I was in New Zealand. So, are you talking about the like 2020 2019 2020 fires? Because I >> Sorry, >> it was bad.
>> I wasn't I was in New Zealand. I I was here for the 2001 fires um that happened, but uh during uh yeah, the the convict years, I was in New Zealand, so I was not here.
>> Okay. But I saw the smoke in New Zealand. Everything the the sun went like red and I was actually working in a nursing home. I was doing cleaning work in a nursing home and I just saw I I saw the windows like like the like the sun shining through the windows just went weird and everything just kind of like darkened and and then uh yeah, looking at the sky, the smoke from Australia had actually moved over to New Zealand and it was uh I saw a photo on my Facebook of like this really small red dot in the sky. It was crazy >> resistance.
>> I didn't think that the smoke could go from Australia to New Zealand, but yes, indeed.
>> Cougar Doomer, uh, did you know about the 2023 wildfires that started in Canada and went all the way down to like Washington uh, DC, my area? Yeah. Like when I woke >> Yeah, that was that that was a bad year.
Yeah. Yeah. When I woke up that morning, like I went for my walks and it felt like a bit cooler than usual. And I noticed that the sun looked like a red dot also, you know, kind of like what happened story and like and like I was I was like coughing a lot cuz like it was like ash, you know, like ash just all around me.
>> And I was like, what the [ __ ] I I better like I come back inside because like I was scared I might like I don't know like suffocate or like inhale some like a toxin. Yeah. What?
Yeah, that was a that was a crazy bad year for for Canada, but it was also bad for the uh the northern and northeast US because they got a lot of the smoke.
They got smoke all the way down into the southeast. It was it was really horrific.
>> Yeah. Oh yeah. Like even in my area it was quite quite much actually. Yeah.
Like we had to like roll up the the car windows up like we couldn't like breathe in any of the air. It was so it was so surreal. It was like cool but it was in June. It was so so weird, you know.
Yeah.
>> Yeah. And that's what you expect because the smoke is so heavy that it blocks out the sun so it makes it a cool day.
>> Yeah, it was it was definitely one of the more uh memorable moments that happened in my life because like the sun looked uh pretty cool actually. I don't want to be like that but like it did look very interesting like >> Oh yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I agree with you. It did look cool. I I also liked it.
>> Oh yeah.
and and and in 2001 I didn't see the sun go like that though. But I was a kid and and yeah, we had to evacuate our house, but my dad did a lot of clearing and and uh and stuff like that around the house.
So, ours was protected, but other people their house burned down cuz they weren't trained to to know how to protect your house against um fires. They left all the leaves and [ __ ] everywhere. Anyway, >> but Cougar, I tell you, when I was a little girl back in the 50s, I can still remember it. It used to get so cold that the pavements used to be all covered in ice and everything. And my feet used to freeze with the cold. Now I barely use a coat anymore in the winter. And that's how much the weather has changed in my lifetime.
>> Yeah. Well, that's that's now the trend.
That's only going to continue.
>> Changed, you know, you know. Yeah, it's unbelievable.
>> Yeah. Um my my my uh >> my current novel I'm kind of writing about how and this it seems like a strange confluence, but it it turns out in in in the novel that works the confluence of AI and uh global heating and I can kind of I can kind of spill the tea a little bit on this. AI discovers that global heating is real and that it's going to destroy the data centers. And so it it decides to shut down global heating. Um and but by the time the book gets to the point where global heating is so bad that someone in this case an AI has to do something about it. Uh it's really horrific in in in the natural in the natural world. So yeah, I'm giving a lot of >> I'm dreading this future because I can to me it's as clear as day. This is not going to turn out very well. None of it.
And I hope I'm not Well, uh, how old are you? How old are you, chickpea?
>> Me? I'm nearly 72.
>> Okay. Well, bad news, sister. You and I are both going to be here. Okay.
>> Yeah. I've got a horrible feeling I will be. Actually, I've got a horrible feeling because um >> yeah, >> told her by my doctors I'm going to be here for a long time yet.
>> There you go. There you go. Something look forward to.
>> Yeah. I really want to be a 100 cuck. My grandmother lived 104. She was euthanized voluntarily >> and I've got a horrible feeling. I don't want to live that long. I don't want to.
>> Yeah, that's that's well done. 104.
>> Yeah. 14. And she was youth. She could have gone on longer, but she decided to opt for euthanasia. She's Dutch, my grand. And um yeah, she decided one day she'd had enough. But she brought up 10 children as well and lived to 104.
>> I don't know how she did it. don't know where she got the stamina from because I don't have it and I don't have it.
>> Different. It was a different generation I guess.
>> Yeah. Hardy, it's sturdy. Yeah.
>> Yeah, definitely.
>> Yeah.
>> So, what do you think about geoengineering or all those conspiracies? I don't get too much into that side of things, but I have heard of like HAP and DARPA and you know, people saying that the government's controlling the weather. Do you subscribe to any of those?
>> Okay. I I I have two I have two answers.
Okay. Who has it? Go ahead.
>> No, that's it. Go ahead. Yes.
>> Okay. Yeah, I have two answers and they're going to sound like they're they're contradictory, but they're not.
Okay. I'm I'm very careful with words.
So, I have two answers for you. They're not contradictory and they're both true and you're going to have to balance this yourself. Uh there is no geoengineering taking place on planet Earth at the moment. at least not on a scale that would be interesting or significant there. It's a the geoengineering on a planetary level is actually in most nations would be considered a war crime.
You can't really [ __ ] around with other people's rainfall, temperatures, water flow. Even India controlling Pakistan's water on the Indis River is considered uh grounds for nuclear exchange. I you know geoengineering or controlling the fate of other nations is uh is cause for war. So there is nothing like that going on right now. You may think there is but there isn't. However, and this is a big however. This is in capital letters. Okay. However, there are lots of scientists that work the same side of the street that I work who are claiming we are going to have to engage in geoengineering. That's their claim. Because global heating is such a threat and it is now proceeding so fast, the scientists, climatologists are now recommending policy to try and alter the planet's energy imbalance through engineered means. And I cannot tell you >> how terrifying that is.
Absolutely terrifying.
That that that's the big however.
Everything you think is happening isn't however. All caps.
>> Yeah.
>> Because the situation is so grim and it is and they know it. They are now considering international or even breach of international treaties to do this to save humanity. This sounds like a a Netflix special, you know, but it it's not. This is this is now the conversation taking place and it drives me bananas. People who I respect, people whose mental clarity I respect are saying these kinds of things and it drives me crazy. Now if you want I can talk about the kinds of things that are being pursued and or proposed but that's a long discussion. I'm just telling you the however there's nothing now. The however they are having they're being forced to talk about it. So there will be in the future is is pretty much what's going to happen. There will be no claiming. Okay.
>> Well, okay. Again, have to be have to be nuanced here. Um they're talking about it. Now, there's a lot of problems with just talking about it. For one thing, if they if these scientists and engineers and politicians talk about doing this, that it it creates what is called moral hazard. It it tells people, "Oh, so I can just go on doing what I'm doing and daddy's going to solve everything for me." That's the moral hazard of basically disconnecting the populace and their behaviors from the problem that they face. So there is a moral hazard issue why we should not be discussing this. But also there are massive repercussions for engaging in uh geoengineering.
For for example, if you're going to have to block solar energy inputs into the unbalanced system in order to try and stop the heating of the unbalanced system, then you're going to make solar panels less efficient. You're going to make plant growth less efficient because you're blocking the sun. You see, and the more and the worse your situation gets, the more aggressively you have to block the sun. And as we know from the discussion 10 minutes ago, if you if you're if the sun is blocked, for example, by smoke, it gets cooler. And not only do you not have the sun to fall on the chlorophyll in the plants to create plant growth and crops, now it's cooler. The weather's cooler. And that might also interfere. So you may have situations where if geoengineering runs away or is improperly managed any one of which can be true then you might actually have winter conditions created artificially with all the repercussions that come from that.
This this entire area of work is is completely insane. And there's a lot of people who say it's completely insane.
But there are so many scientists and engineers and politicians that are terrified of the future that we have now created that they are willing to entertain what 10 years ago would have seemed completely unhinged, irresponsible, and insane. Now they have to talk about it.
>> Wow.
>> Drives me crazy.
>> Yeah. I think it'll drive anyone crazy if if you do your uh research in that field of study. Yeah. The fact that we had to ruin the earth so bad that we literally have to make technology that might one day like alter our world that that that we once knew.
Yeah.
And and then and then and here's here's the dark side. If that wasn't dark enough, here's the actual dark side. If you start that process and you don't change anything else, meaning people just burn the fossil fuels all they want to, the CO2 levels go up, greenhouse effect increases, then when you ever stop, if you ever stop doing this thing that you started like blocking the sun or reflecting the sun or some other combination of things, if you stop doing that, then you enter a phase called termination shock. You've terminated the artificial means by which you were keeping the planet in a stable energy equilibrium. By terminating that, you then invite rapid, catastrophic, and consequential reheating of the planet back to where it would be had you not done anything. And this termination shock can happen in a matter of months.
You could go from well, we've managed to keep temperatures to X instead of X plus4, but then you get X plus4 within 3 months of stopping. And why might why might you stop? You might stop because you run out of money. You might stop because someone doesn't uh uh sign a treaty again. You might stop because there's too many ground level effects like crop failures and solar panel failures. You might stop because of a war, a global war or some other kind of thing. Or you might stop because of an economic collapse or you might stop because of of of a of a plague, a huge, you know, it disrupts everything and you can't fly the satellites, you can't fly the airplanes, whatever the technology is, you have to stop doing it. And so there's so many ways that you could be forced to stop this. Even if you signed on to do this forever, which is what you're signing on to do, to do this forever, you might have to stop. And if you ever stopped, then you'd get termination shock. And at that point, you can't even adapt. Everything just hits you so hard, so fast, that it just takes everyone by surprise. Uh, and whatever the consequences would be, I guess that's what they are.
Very nice breakdown of future possibilities and hype offic.
>> Yeah. And and and these these are legitimate things to now watch for in governance, media, science, communication. Uh this is now the talk and and when you see this talk, um I want you to just think about what it is they're saying. They are going to completely control the planet's energy and balance for all time. And ask yourself, is that really a thing that a bunch of chimps can do? Because that's the level of technology we're dealing with.
>> And what's your cougar? What's your take on these data centers using up all our fresh water >> data centers? Yeah, I was actually reading like a news article about this.
They were they were going to they're in the talks of opening yet another one in my >> or the water scary.
>> Well, it's um it's it's not just the water, it's also the electricity. Um, so for example, if they start putting a lot of data centers in your community and tapping into basically the excess electrical generation that you didn't even know was there, then when the day comes, everyone in your community turns on their air conditioner because it's hot and they don't want to die in the heat. Well, the data centers are going to get theirs first because they've got a big contract for delivery and you don't have a contract for delivery. Your your delivery to your house, your community is is best effort. So at that point, all you people turn on your air conditioning at the same time. The data center says, "Well, we've got ours. They don't know where yours is." And your power goes out. Okay? The power goes out. So you can talk about the water and other things that you think are important, but I think in the end uh we could end up having uh fatality events when the power goes out in communities and and then they can't cool themselves for days at a time. They can't cool themselves and then you have fatality events. U will will the data centers be blamed for this? Probably not. I I think the politicians and the grid operators will go to bat for the data centers cuz they're the big contracts. And um and when people die, that's like, well, that's one way to solve the problem of not having enough electricity. Just people die and problem solved.
>> Yeah. Well, they want us dead anyway, don't they? They've already said that.
>> Well, yeah. If you're not if you're not working a job and and getting paid a terrible wage, >> then they don't have any you don't have any use for you. You're just you're just Yeah, you're just an eater and and and worse, you require, you know, late life medical care and support and you require, you know, pension payments and you require operating transit systems and, you know, but >> they don't need that [ __ ] THEY DON'T NEED THAT. They don't need that stuff.
So, it's better off if you just die and let them do whatever they want.
>> Very expensive us old folks. I know so myself. I get everything provided for me. I'm no worse off than a working person.
>> Well, now the data centers need your stuff.
>> Sorry, JW.
>> Uh before before we go to the next guest uh here at the Finding Nosis Hotel, >> you're back.
>> Uh Vegan Equilibrium says the data centers don't account for even a fraction of what animal agriculture does.
>> Just so you know. Uh social experimentalist, you're on the Fnosis show. Uh now Danny uh we're doing a thought experiment here just to find out what truly matters because my thinking was if you were if you were about to die um may maybe what really matters might pop into your mind.
So Danny you were about to be executed Danny you're tied to a chair somewhere and somebody is standing with a gun to your head maybe about 8 8 in away.
Now they they've been gentlemanly enough to give you a moment to say your last words and those last words are going to reverberate around the internet because they're going to be recorded and shared after you have been dispatched with. Um now so the question is uh Danny in under such circumstances what are your last words?
>> Well obviously keep it in your pants.
That's it. That's it. Keep it in.
>> That's That's That's Denny.
>> They might think, >> "Daddy, they'll probably think he means I keep MY GUN IN MY PANTS."
>> Keep it in your pants.
>> Wait. D, what would be your last words?
I've been meaning to ask.
>> Do you know? I haven't thought about it.
Give me a moment or I'll come back to you.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Vegan Equilibrium says it sounds like a a kink fan. Not really. Uh I'm not into [ __ ] dead bodies or anything like that. I don't know what you're into vegan equilibrium, but no, not me. Not for me. Thank you. Um but yeah, Danny, why why would you say that?
This is this is like the >> I mean, do you really you really asking me that? I mean, it's so obvious.
>> This world is such a crazy place.
>> Yeah. It's such a sadistic, crazy, awful, meaningless game.
>> It's terrible.
>> It's Although I would like to just add to it that that it that it is exquisitly abominable.
>> It's exquisitly diabolical. It is exquisite.
>> Yes.
>> So, you know, so if there was a gun to my head, I would say I would say just keep it in your pants and live your life out and don't impose it on anybody else, whatever you do.
>> Yeah. Totally.
>> What about What about uh I think I heard brother Nolan Goroing in the background.
Is it will he be able to tell us his um last words or maybe you could relay them for us?
>> I would say I don't mind the pistol being held to my cranium, sir, but please don't unfurl your weapon of mass destruction because it would be far more damaging. In fact, the pistol the pistol is what I've been waiting for. It's my liberation.
But the unfurling the unfurling of your ma weapon of mass destruction will be catastrophic.
>> Oh my god.
>> For another life.
>> Oh my lord.
>> For another life. My god.
>> So I'm still thinking of others while I'm being executed. That's a sign of a prophet.
>> My god. The brother's grim here on the final show.
>> So that begs the question. And if you get executed in this life and you say something in this life, do you have the opportunity and do you take that opportunity in your next life when they execute you again to say the exact same thing or do you find something new to say? Just >> nit's eternal recurrence. I'd say exactly the same >> as any man should.
>> It's the same thing repeating itself.
And somehow you think by changing something you do is going to change what it does. Not going to happen, folks.
>> No, I'm saying by staying constant, you hope for change. The waiver, the man who waivers cannot expect change.
>> Correct?
And this is also why Jang followed up and said actually he believed that you should encompass or embrace the abyss so that you could become that beast. So that if you were confronted by a beast, you could beat the beast instead of having to run and cower in the shadows of the abyss.
>> Amen. Beautifully set.
>> Vegan equilibrium says, "But Danny, this world produced you and you are cool." Apparently everything is worth it because you're cool, Danny.
>> No, it's not worth it at all. And uh very very kind to you to to to you to suggest that I'm cool. Cool or not, I have unfortunately produced gallons of [ __ ] gallons of piss, loads of like crap. My house is full overflowing with rubbish.
And uh there was no need to bring me here at all, just like there was no need to bring anybody here.
>> So what sort of rubbish have you got, Danny? much of interest. Yeah, I'm curious.
>> The house just a house full of >> Yeah, mine's like that. It's horrible.
>> Loads and loads of stuff.
>> Yeah, I've got the same >> children have my And my children have got loads of stuff. All >> they got it, too.
>> Oh, yeah. And they unfortunately they've been really badly uh affected by social media to buy loads of clothes and and they've got loads of clothes they given away and thrown away and keep getting clo It's just awful.
>> Terrifying. Yeah. I'm saying it's awful.
I've got so much junk. It's It's really quite scary actually.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. My wife's a hoarder.
Oh no. Oh no.
>> Yeah. So, she's like, "Oh my god, she's got about five times as much as I have."
>> Oh god.
I just hoard cats.
>> Fair enough.
>> Yeah. Well, someone's got to hoard them, haven't they?
>> Yes. No, it's very good of me to look after.
>> I want another one. I'm so broody.
Anyway, um >> the kittens >> El Pero, uh what do you think of I don't know if you're familiar with Danny and what he says, uh but that that you heard what he'd say in his last moments.
I mean, do do you think there's any validity to his views?
>> Absolutely. I agree. It's it's what are you going to do about it? That's why, you know, when somebody says somebody's trying to bully me, no, I don't think so because it really doesn't bother me.
There's nothing I can do about it as an imposing force. I can only either accept it as it is or turn around and walk away.
>> No, I I think you might have missed his message. He's basically saying none of us should be here.
I don't know that that's what I heard, but >> we shouldn't be creating more.
>> That was like that's like the main uh crux of like his his thing. Yeah. Is to say just don't make more humans. Yeah.
>> He said keep it in your pants. And that's what he really meant.
>> Yep.
>> Well, if that's what he meant, then that's that that's absolutely not what it is. You know, that's not the way I see it. That's for sure. because we're we're meant to procreate and we're meant to procreate at a natural >> balance. And the problem with that is most people think that there's this outside source that constitutes a balance and it's not. A balance is a fluctuation. There are going to be gives and takes all the way along the path and they're generally going to repeat themselves. As we've seen in in almost every subject we've ever studied, there's repeating patterns.
They're cyclical. The weather, we were just talking about El Ninos and El Ninas. There's cyclical patterns that h happen every so often. There's a frequency to events.
>> There you go, Donnie. It's all >> like you should.
>> Well, think about this. There was a time, and this is only conjecture on my part according to the research I've done, but there was a time where this planet didn't have Caucasians.
And when the Caucasians came about and and when the Caucasians came about, the people that did see them were kind of surprised. They'd never seen something like that before. Now there's a new something according to them. So there's a fluctuation in time that might say we might go back to where there's no Caucasians or that we might go to a time where there's no melanated. You you don't know. You can't pose this stuff.
Balance the balances will happen the way they happen. There's nothing you can do about it.
>> Uh I I think Danny's more getting at the point that he thinks it's it's immoral to create. Yeah.
>> Another another >> he wasn't talking about races or uh uh like Caucasians or like anything like that. I don't think he was I don't think was >> so when it comes to the morals then we have to understand that in the natural world morals don't exist. Okay. There are natural limits to how many um cubs a bear can have each season. And if that bear has a cub every season, is that immoral in nature? No. It's a balance in life. They do it because it's natural to keep up the population. Men in their moral systems have decided that to morally take over a property, a piece of land, you have to have enough people to tend it. So, we better have larger families.
So they keep procreating year after year after year and have 18 kids. Really?
That's the part I think he's talking about.
The moral structure is not natural.
It's when we came together in these big conglomerate societies and decided to take upon the comforts and conveniences of having a collective a group think safe space rather than having to be out there on our own on a homestead as a single man trying to attract a nice independent single woman to come to that piece of land and start procreating.
They're two different aspects.
And today in these modern times we don't see that primary aspect of our nature.
We don't we don't see that. That's the problem. A society and these morals and ethics is what's throwing things out of balance. In our true nature, we're just like the natives that used to travel north and south like the El Nino and the El Na.
We're no longer actually in our natural our natural base.
>> Please, let's not speak about nature.
Nature is disgusting.
>> Nature is vile.
>> Nature is horrific.
>> It's is the most disgraceful, disgusting, amoral, vile, violent nature.
>> Especially when you pack, >> all this [ __ ] about balance. All this nonsense about balance, all nonsense. The fact is that we are living in a diabolical reality which is run by the most diabolical piece of code ever known to to to to mankind and to all animals which is DNA. DNA is a dastardly devilish nasty piece of code that is in every single cell of our body and is and is working against us. And enlightenment is overcoming your DNA, recognizing how awful and diabolical it is and and resisting with all your might and strength the pull to procreate which is the worst the most terrible and heinous crime known to mankind. And with regards to vegan equilibrium's uh comment about uh but Dunny humans can find the technology for eternal bliss.
Well, firstly, I don't think that's >> I don't Firstly, I don't know if that's true or not. I don't think it's true or not. Secondly, I'm not dealing with, as far as I'm concerned, when I say what I'm saying, I'm not dealing I I understand that I only have a tiny sphere of influence. Absolutely tiny.
And the only influence I have is with words. And I'm fighting code. I'm fighting every the code which is in every cell of every human's body. Right?
So I understand that the I'm what I'm talking about is not the end of mankind which will come anyway and which will be which will be welcome as far as I'm concerned because I'm not talking about that because mankind will never be able to realize this very simple truth right so I'm not talking about that I'm talking about the sphere of influence of which I have which is tiny so anybody listening to this anybody listening to it in the future people on panel. I'm just, you know, repeating and I will continue to repeat until the day I die that this is it's absolutely and utterly abhorrent to force someone into into existence at all under any circumstances. Whether it's in a homestead, whether it's not, whether it's in a city, whether it's you've got loads of money, whether you're skint, obviously there are there are uh there's a whole spectrum and a whole grades of in I call it the spectrum of inappropriateness. It is absolutely and utterly inappropriate to start a human life or an animal life, right? It is completely inappropriate. But there there are there are grades of inappropriateness. Obviously, if you've got huge amounts of resources and you're very well balanced human being and you're living in harmony with so-called in harmony with nature, then you're at the lower end in you're the at the at the lower end of inappropriateness. If you've got no money at all and you've got really bad genetics, uh, and you're a violent psychopath, then you're at the very high end of the spectrum of inappropriateness. But no matter where you are on that spectrum, it's completely and utterly inappropriate.
Keep the god damn thing in your pants.
>> Okay, we're done. Okay, because um you know it it's funny how life works. You would think that somebody with such a concept that DNA is so damned evil and you shouldn't force life that he's the one that thinks he was forced into life and he has all of this power to end his life but he won't use it.
>> Oh right. Oh, we're starting on that one again. Well, just to let you know, by the way, just to let you know that I'm probably maybe even the number one person in the world, but I'm certainly quite high up in terms of the number of people that have asked me or suggested that I kill myself. So, you're you know, you're you're one of many. Don't worry, you're not unique. Um, so I I mean that is absolutely ridiculous, by the way, to say that. It's ridiculous.
>> Well, that's what I'm saying. It's absolutely ridiculous to say that DNA is evil and that it's evilcing and that you're forcing that you're forcing life and that you're forcing life >> that that forcing life on somebody else forcing life is something bad and degenerate and that you should not do it.
>> It's degenerate of life. Well, that is the exact purpose. degenerate. It's degenerate to start a life.
>> I can't handle any more of this sanity.
>> It's degenerate to start.
>> Perp. One second. El Pra, are you there?
>> Yeah, I'm here. But I can't handle any more of this.
>> No, it's all right. Relax. Just don't don't get too stressed about it, brother. I mean, someone to hang out.
>> Oh, that's rude.
>> El Pero. El Pero. You see, the thing is >> asylum. I can go hang out in the asylum.
>> What the [ __ ] You are in the asylum, my friend. Welcome to the asylum.
>> He's already here.
>> Oh, he's gone. He's gone. He's gone.
He's gone. Just about to Okay.
>> I was hoping someone would be able to u maybe uh give you a a different perspective. Uh but clearly he wasn't able to.
>> I can do that.
>> By all means, sir.
Um, I I don't I've really never weighed in on this topic much, at least because I don't know that it's a place for a biologist to have much of an opinion to be honest. But I will say this, there is a movement taking place across the planet right now. It's mostly from women because women are the really the ones that matter where they are not having children. And the reason why they're not having children is because of anxiety about the future. And the reason why they're suffering anxiety about the future, which is basically existential dread as an entire class of humans, women are now suffering existential dread because they think that the future world is going to be entirely hostile to their continuence.
And to have a child, it would become a burden. Not only would she not be able to survive if burdened with children because her own ability to move through the world would be curtailed. Also, she wouldn't want to she wouldn't want to suffer the emotional distress uh of seeing her children killed in the future world which is going to be hostile to human intentions and human continuence. So, uh, that's a thing.
That's a movement. I did create that that's happening out there. And I think it's women who who are who they're their ears are always a little bit closer to the pulse of the planet than men are.
And I think that that's probably instinctive. And they are instinctively at this point. And, you know, the women on the panel can throw me in the trash bin. I don't really care. But the women in the world seem to be listening to the to the uh state of the planet and they're not having children. This is now an existential crisis for certain uh demographics uh like uh most of the northern European countries and most of Europe where there's already low birth rates and we may be facing uh a uh a local let's call it an extra patient. Extropation is local extinction. So not global extinction but local extinction. We may be facing extrepion events in certain parts of the planet because women are refusing to have children.
>> Oh cougar though there are certain sectors of society that are still having eight or nine children. There are still >> it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
>> Okay.
>> It doesn't matter. It's not enough. It's true. I'm not saying it's not true. It is true.
uh uh the Christian sect that we find here in my country uh they actually have a u a theological argument for having large families but it makes no difference. It's not >> I'm not talking about the Christian ones. I'm talking about um other religious demographics. I'm not talking about Christians.
>> Yeah, it won't matter.
>> It won't matter.
>> Not that I care. You know, I'm I'm an antiatalist. I don't know how anyone could want to have a child even. It's a mystery to me. who has been >> well that's fine and and I don't talk I don't I don't talk on this topic much because I think it's kind of a sewer but I'm just saying that there >> it's a yeah it's it doesn't it doesn't go anywhere it's just dirty it never goes anywhere I'm just saying that there is a movement >> okay >> that's it just sharing information >> yeah someone in the chat that says AI and Google don't agree with you, pal.
>> As if that means anything. But Carl, do come on and uh face it yourself. I'm willing to even go backstage for 20 minutes and let you talk, Carl, if you want to address Danny and uh Cougaruma yourself. I'll get out of the picture.
I'll leave the show for 20 minutes. Go ahead, Carl. The ball's in your court.
So, Danny, Danny, when are you going to be doing your next talk in Leicester Square, wherever?
>> Well, I'm uh I'm at the moment I'm planning um I'm planning a a new way of presenting.
>> All right. So, um, yeah, I'm getting all the kind of like all the artwork done and I'm going to be s sitting down and having a table.
>> Are you going to do what Joey Carbstrong does?
>> What's that?
>> You're going to do what Joey Carbstrong does.
>> Uh, >> yeah, it is going to be like that. It is going to be like that. Yeah.
>> Oh, wow. Cuz I'd love to join in one day. We don't mind.
>> You're welcome. If you go on, I'm getting I'm setting up a WhatsApp group so that I can like tell people where I'm going to be.
>> Okay.
>> So, you can get on that.
>> I used to go a lot of demos in Leicester Square years ago when I was young, but I don't do it anymore because I haven't quite frankly I can't take it anymore to demonstrate about.
>> Yeah.
>> There's a message for for you there from Vegan Equilibrium. Vegan Equilibrium, are you coming on here?
Um, >> oh, Danny, Danny, Danny, I saw you.
>> Carl, as I said, I'll be back. I'm giving you the uh freedom to talk, Carl.
So, I am making allowances for you. So, it's up to you whether you want to talk or not. But, >> daddy, I saw you. Sorry. Oh, sorry, Grumps. I saw you outside the church in narrow way with >> I saw you on here.
>> Hackne, >> you know narrow way. Hackne, you've been there shouting at um peasants walking by >> long time ago. Long time ago.
>> Oh, a long time ago. Oh, okay. Fair enough.
>> Yeah.
Yeah.
>> He gets around, you know.
>> Yes, I knew.
>> Yeah. You know. Yeah.
>> All right. I'm going to love you and leave you. Have a wonderful time.
>> Take care now.
>> Let me know if you come up with any solutions.
>> Bye >> bye.
>> Bye.
>> Have you ever grunts? Have you ever seen Joey Carpstrong and his he gets behind a desk and >> Yeah, I do. Yeah, I have seen he does it very well. Yeah, I I think it's good.
Sometimes he he he does reverse psychology.
No, >> he he put up a sign saying it's okay to abuse animals. Prove me wrong. And then all these people came up to him really angry and said, "I'm a farmer. I don't agree with that."
>> That's a good one.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And uh but then he he showed them that they that's actually what they were doing.
>> Yeah. But I tell you, sorry, >> the fact they've banned his video, I knew they would do that. I I surprised it was allowed to run for as long as it did. I'm surprised it was there for more than five minutes even.
>> Really surprised.
I've written my MP back because I I think he should have the legal right to show as many videos as he likes. It's not the first time they've banned him.
>> Uh Carl, what exactly do you want? I don't understand.
>> What does he do?
>> I don't know what he's talking about.
>> I mean, I gave him opportunity to speak.
What else does he want me to do? Carl, come on and ask in person cuz I have no idea what you're saying, brother.
Come on and ask in person and uh make a speech on what you require. We can think about it.
>> Uh I'm afraid Danny Shine is no longer with us. Vegan equilibrium. He left the show.
>> Here, look who's here. Look who's here.
Hold on. You can all look at Poppy for a second. Naughty little girl. Look. Yes, she is. Oh, puppy. Yay.
>> We're all right. Grumpy. What a grumpy girl. Did she >> She was like, "No." She was like, "No, >> I want to."
>> One moment, please.
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>> I've got something. I got something to show you. Right.
>> Hold on one second. This um you know you were talking about that weird thing you were talking about a couple of days ago on here. I've forgotten the word.
>> The Toroids. The Toroids. Yes. This is David Iikes talking about it. One of his >> Oh my days.
>> Yeah, there you go. Now, what does he say? Tell tell us what he says about to >> Oh god, I look like hell.
>> Tell us what he says. Tell us what he Tell us what he says.
>> Grumpy cats.
Um, what does he say? The mind is an electronic magnetic field, also known as the oric field, which interacts with the brain. We think through the brain, not from the brain. whatever that means. Um, our consciousness operates what do you want me to read what it says about the thing or is it consciousness? Um, >> right. Our consciousness operates another reality >> and at one level it is the human electronic electromagnetic oric field that we know as the mind. This is a field of information from which the body brain is decoded into illusurary physicality. The brain is not the mind.
It processes information from the mind into what we experience as conscious thought and emotional reaction. Say these words I don't understand them.
Consciousness does not manifest from the brain but exist through the brain. The information blueprint of the body and the human human reality exists beyond the physical light and what we see is a decod of that which we experience as physicality matter. We look into the realm of matter while believing we are in the matter.
I don't understand this only the body brain is in the matter which is not matter at all.
Yeah, it's very complicated. Um, D&W, I don't understand what I'm reading even.
I'm not exaggerating. I don't even understand.
>> That's why I on the topic of day by day, did you know today is his uh >> guess his birthday? I know he's 74 today.
>> Yeah, >> I know. He's been around. Yeah. So, >> yeah. I don't know where he gets it from to write some of this complicated stuff because I must admit some of the stuff he writes when he talks about it human illusion and things is just too much my brain to handle. I just don't understand >> because all this stuff you guys talking about the other night was completely beyond my comprehension >> even though the picture there and I can see how it works >> this oric field. David Ike says you're adding [ __ ] to it. That's not what the book says.
>> Pardon?
>> What? OH, REALLY? OH, I MADE it up. Oh, sorry. I made it all up, folks. I made that >> clear. You want to come back and and clarify yourself?
>> Well, it's page 181 16, the road map.
That's where I got it from. Here it is.
Whoopsy day. There it is all there.
Oops. You can see it.
>> Screenshot it if you want. Uh >> oh.
>> Anyone?
>> Oh, there. There. I understand what that means. That Oh, DNW. I've got the book here. DNW.
>> I know. I know. It's very strange. I know.
>> No. There's something wrong with that man. He think he's just doomed to pick an argument with me.
>> Like I said, I don't understand. I would say it's I would say it's their time of the month, but he doesn't seem that way.
>> Their time of the month.
>> Who are you talking about now?
>> El Pero. He's in a grumpy mood. I thought I was grumpy.
>> No, but you're a lovely grump. Grumps.
You're a lovable grump. Whereas Pero is not a lovable grump. He's right. No, I must stop it. I will not say nasty things.
>> Uh Fatima, will you read something out for Carl? He wants you to read something. Is that okay?
>> Read something out for car. Uh, >> I'd love to know what bookings I'm reading.
>> Guru, Guru, can you post it, Guru, in the private chat on the in the in the uh studio? You'll have to come on and put it in the studio for him.
>> Grumps, do you understand this whole thing with the Oric thing just like you were talking the other night? Do you understand all that? Cuz I didn't.
>> The Toroid stuff.
>> Yeah. Um, >> I don't understand. I I I I don't know if there was um any any actual truth found, only that it's something worth thinking about, you know, >> and um >> I think it because it was my first time thinking about it all. It left me with more questions than answers.
>> Yes, >> it was certainly very interesting.
>> Yes. Beyond my comprehension, I'm afraid I don't have the brains for it. And I really don't have them. Simple as that.
Well, object of ethics says, "If consciousness is fundamental, then why do we affect consciousness when we affect the brain? What is the ontological link between an allegedly metaphysical mind and the physical brain?" He has a good point, guys.
>> Yeah. Well, I'll tell you this much, Grumps. I >> And there's much proof of that, isn't there? Some of these people who have had their persona personality change because of a head head injury or whatever. Um, It's very strange, but our brain does work outside our bodies. That I do know.
>> Pamela says, do you want to read her joke here for us? It's a good one.
>> Two dragons in the pub. One says, "It's hot in here." The other says, "Shut your gob then." I'm sure I'm sure I already tried this one. Tried one.
>> That's a good I think that's funny.
Oh, sorry. I did read it out.
>> I think they clapped you for reading it out as well. Chickpea, you didn't Oh, I had my Did I read it? Sorry. I I thought your >> comic timing your your comic timing wasn't perfect, >> but it it was good effort.
dirty low life. Do you want to come on here and explain that one? Um, >> isn't >> Yes. Uh, Guru, you can read it. Of course.
>> Yeah, you can come on. Guru or Carl or whoever is talking to uh today.
Call. Call I believe.
>> Cougar, you came back on, brother. To keep us company or to say something.
>> He's muted. So >> I I got kicked off by my wife calling me on the phone.
>> Sometimes she needs me to to deal with things and I can't be on the stream and on the phone at the same time.
>> That's fair enough. And and in terms of why I may have come back, I don't I don't actually know why, but we were having some conversations in which I was engaged. So until I feel disengaged, then I guess I'll stay here.
Thank you, Cougar. Um, we have Carl who's coming back now to read us uh something about how special he is and how unique his mind is and how we have to interpret >> what he says through a certain lens.
Through a certain lens. Okay, Carl, go ahead, sir.
>> Okay. Would would you guys like me just read it or share the screen so you can read along?
>> Uh, you can just Well, I suppose you can do both. Yeah.
>> Okay. Okay. Well, I'll put the share the screen up in a moment. I don't know if you guys can see that.
>> Yeah. So, this this guys is um work that's actually come from the studies of uh being here as well and things we wanted to prove before coming on the show which is >> part of a lot of things we've done and this study is going to help a lot of people. So um I'm more interested in the individuals such as um Objective Ethics Cougar Duma and Fatima more than anybody listening along because I think they can help me um if this doesn't land for other people which I don't know if it will. So thank you for letting me listen. So this is called the paradoxical disability of metacognitive IQ. And why it's called the paradoxical disability is because I'm not disabled.
What it is is what I'm require as you'll see in a minute is supposed to be a given. And so it's not a necessity that's seen as a disablement until those who don't have that necessity don't offer it and then it creates a paradoxical disability based on me and the other person. So if I believe this is an environmental manufactured communication challenge, a theoretical explanation is the abstract.
Metacognitive IQ refers to rare cognitive architecture marked by advanced self monitoring, multi-perspective integration and intrinsic demand for denotational position when engaging truth claims.
It's in supportive environments that allow requests for clarification and structural discourse. This architecture functions efficiently. However, in many social or discursive um settings that prioritize performative storytelling or rapid exchange or narrative flow, the same traits produce significant distress overload and apparent communicational breakdown. This creates a paradoxical disability. The individual is not inherently disabled, yet the mismatch between their cognitive needs and the environment manufactures functional impairment. including frustration, protective responses, nervous system overload, and collapse.
This paper defines the phenomena, outlines its mech mechanisms, and draws on relative evidence from metacognition research twice exceptional 2e studies and pragmatics language frameworks to support the concept. The introduction, metacognitive thinking about one's own thinking has long been recognized as a key component of advanced cognitive functioning. This is Flavvel 1979.
Individuals with high metacognitive capac capacity often exhibits superior monitoring of their cognitive processes, evaluation of knowledge gaps and strategic adjustment. When this capacity reaches an exceptional level termed here metacognitive IQ, it involves hyper awareness of epistemic structures, a need for precise alignment on definitions and claims and simultaneous simultaneous processing of multiple angles before coherent output. The paradoxical disability arises precisely because this strength becomes a vulnerability if mismatched context.
Requests for points of clarity on directed truth claims, for example, what do you mean by X so I can respond accurately are frequently reframed as interruptions, rudeness or narcissism.
They res the resulting denial of necess necessary communication communicative conditions triggers cascading effects.
Epistmic frustration, inability to engage productively, protective mirroring or escalation. The eventual nervous system overload. The disability is paradoxical because it is not fixed or intrinsic. It emerges at the interface of an individual's architecture and the social field. So defining metacognitive IQ then so metacognitive IQ extends beyond just general intelligence or standard metacognitive skills. It it features heightened self-awareness of cognitive processes, strengths, weaknesses and pistmic alignment needs. Demand for denitational position distinguishing truth claims from storytelling and requiring clear definitions to avoid talking past each other.
Multi-perspective integration, processing information from several angles simultaneously for robust understanding. Sensitivity to epistemic mismatch, discomfort or overload when clarity is denied on claims directly directed at the individual.
This research shows that high metacognitive ability correlates with flexibility, adaptability, and deeper self-awareness, but can also lead to overanalysis, hyper awareness or frustration in social contexts where such precision is not accommodated. High IQ or gifted individuals often demonstrate stronger metacognitive monitoring. Yet, this can create challenges when environments do not support it. Mechanisms of the paradoxical disability. So, you can see it. The disability manifests through a clear sequence. directed truth claim.
You know this is an is claim or some someone is saying this is the truth and they want to tell it. They don't want to claim it. See truth is supposed to be claimed not told. You can't tell the truth. It's called stealing. It doesn't belong to you. So directed truth claim.
A participant makes a claim aimed at or challenging the individual.
Example on definitions, positions or expertise. The request for clarity. The metacognitive individual seeks precise points on definition or elaborate or elaboration to steelman and respond accurately viewing this as an as essential for productive discourse. The environmental reframing the request is interpreted as interruption of narrative flow, rudeness or ego-driven behavior appears to authority or blunt dismissal.
You know you're wrong may follow without without engaging substance don't cascade denied clarity prevents coher coherent engagement mounting frustration protective responses mirroring tone for safety perceived escalation there you go some of you people have mentioned this word as well path path path I can't say the word sorry but hope you can read there um of the individual style or needs as belonging to a character rather than a real communive necessity.
Overload and collapse nervous system distress, rage vent, you know, like fight or flight. Um, that's what's been triggered in me. Um, rage vent cycles, time loop, uh, dissolation signals or temporary shutdown. Recovery involves grounding and regul lubric lubrication.
But repeated exposure creates um um a a cumitive strain. That's why I have to take a break from crazy. I can't go back to that. I mean, it's it's overworked its strain. This is not a permanent def deficit, but a contextual emergent impairment. It it op in optimal conditions permitting denotational exchange. Functioning remains high in performative or fast-paced settings. The mismatch manufactures disability symptoms. Evidence from related fields support this. um twice exception two e research gift individuals recurring new virgin traits these are the things just supporting what I'm saying and just it's pretty much going to repeat what I'm saying but it's there for people to read >> okay but you are disabled you are you are disabled if you listen this is saying >> now let me tell you why you are disabled and you're you're making out that like first of all disabled people might generally take offense to the fact that you think there's something wrong with being disabled cuz you're saying you're not disabled when you car and I don't know why you are saying that because disability car whether you like it or not means not fitting in and it means not being able to function in normal society and the truth is if society bent to your whims yes you would be able to function but as it stands you are disabled by your nature I'm not I'm not saying you're bad or you're evil or that's you know I I I have empathy for that but you are disabled Thank you for your opinion. Can I continue reading now?
>> Yes. All right. So, um, even though we just had a really ignorant interruption and opinion that was grounded in nothing whatsoever and completely ignored what this article just said, the dis academia will not class as a disability because what my necessity is, everybody is supposed to be given its common discourse. But we're going to come to places where go >> Carl. All right. All right. All right.
All right. I'll accept I'll accept that you, you know, you might have this different way of thinking, neurody divergence or whatever. And by the way, I'm not saying this disability is bad.
I'm just saying it's it's it's something that you have to overcome yourself. And with the help of society, yes, we should try and help disabled people, of course.
Uh but you you Carl, it can't always be about you. And I'm sorry, but if you're if you're trying to suggest that everyone always has to bend over for you, well, I'm afraid that is narcissistic.
>> No, that's my suggestion. My suggestion is if um if you decide to take someone in a wheelchair that can't operate themselves out for a walk and then decide to leave them 100 meters from where you're going and then just go, I'm sorry if you expect me to push you all the way. That's just not fair. to show what your disability and then walk the rest of the way and say I can leave you there because I don't have to push you an extra extra 100 meters. Push yourself. But even though they cannot do that and it's impossible as you walk away laughing, isn't that a narcissistic one?
>> Yes, I I understand what you're saying, Carl, and I would say that would be a a terrible thing to do. But Carl, you are on the internet. You you you can log off at any time.
>> Uh you also have a carer. A lot of people in bad situations don't have anybody. You have a a wife who's your carer, you know, you you have another adult who is neurotypical.
You there's no comparison there. I'm sorry. I'm not I'm not get I'm not I'm not going to like bow down to you and feel sorry for you because you paint yourself as this wheelchairbound, you know, um paralyzed individual who who is completely at the mercy of of of of one person uh pushing them around.
That's not the case. You have many people helping you and uh you're choosing to interact with us here. You have agency. You could log off, but you choose to do it. And I don't think you're stupid. You know what you're doing. you understand this as well because clearly if you if you understand this issue Carl if you're able to write this article okay and you're able to in your head come up with how the problem is uh occurring why it is occurring if you can do those two things that says to me that you individually could come up with a a solution cuz you know how and why it's happening you you you know why it's how and why it's happening and therefore you can come up with your own solution rather than expecting everybody in the whole wide world to bend over for you.
>> Where did you get all that information from? Like what what what thinks what you just said is correct to you?
>> Well, you you understand how your mind works more than money.
And therefore therefore I feel like if if that is the case if you're that well intellectually endow uh endowed >> cuz if you are that wellendowed intellectually well then if you understand how your mind works and you also under understand how other people's minds work surely you're in a better position than anybody to bend yourself and and you know >> you know bend this way and that to fit in and communicate. Okay. Do you believe that?
>> Well, I'm sorry. The evidence says yes.
If if you understand this as as far as you as much as you say you do, >> well then I say you are in a in in a fantastic position to overcome this hurdle that you say is there, but you know the truth is you understand it. So you you you're intelligent. You can come up with a way to get around this yourself without expecting the whole world to bend over.
>> Okay. Yeah, that's that's fair enough.
I'm sorry that might be harsh. Uh I'm going to bring in Cougar Duma. What do you think? Cougar Duma.
>> Yeah, please. I' I've been sitting here wondering what I could break in and have something to say. Um okay. So ju just to level set context set. I am a metacognitive I have a metacognitive intelligence. Okay. I do people with metacognitive intelligence think about thinking.
Because we think about thinking we learn faster. We problem solve better and we have better success overall. I'm a very successful person at thinking. I write books. I teach. I think about thinking and I don't consider it. I mean it makes me different. I understand that because I think about thinking and I know when other people are not thinking about thinking. I can sense it and it can become frustrating for me. But it's not a disability.
If anything it's a superpower. It is it is a departure from normal of brain behavior. Not everybody can think about thinking IQ, brother. You haven't got that.
>> What?
>> What?
>> You haven't You haven't got metacognitive IQ.
>> Oh, you don't know what the [ __ ] you're talking about.
>> You don't know anything about Okay, you made Listen. Crazy crazy. You made this whole thing. You made this whole thing up. These are real things. You're making this up. These are real things. I am that person.
>> Oh, okay. OKAY.
>> I AM THAT PERSON. I COME BEFORE YOU AS that person. And I know my person type.
You're not it.
>> You're not it, Gracie. I don't know what you are, but you're not it.
>> What DNW said then was not true. I'm not the expert then.
>> No, you're not. No, you're the expert.
You're the expert. You're the expert at something you just made up and that's about it.
>> Oh, okay. That's okay. What about the study, guys, did you not agree with?
Because I just read to you a study and nobody's actually attended any point to it. You've all ignored it. What about that study was incorrect?
>> All right. All right. We we we do have to get into that Carl to to give you some service. I I agree with that. But Cougar, did Cougar, what do you think of my point that I made that if he understands this so much, then why is he expecting everyone else to bend over for him? Cougar Dub, did you understand what I meant by that?
>> Yeah, I understand that exactly. He's he's portraying himself as having some sort of a rare mental illness that requires everybody to, as you say, bend over as if, as you say, he was in a wheelchair. and these people open doors for him. But it's not like that.
Metacognition simply means you think about thinking. That's all it means, folks. That's it. That's all it is. It's not a disability. It ain't anything.
It's a superpower. And having someone come along who's telling me that I have a disability, that I need people to open doors for me. That's kind of offensive.
I'm one of the fastest, best thinking people on the planet.
>> Period. And I just And I just roll with it. People, have you ever seen me come on here asking you to open doors for me?
>> No. Could you tell me?
>> Uh, Cougar Duma, Cougar Duma, with respect, um, I think there's no better man to talk to Carl about this because I I I don't want to be in a position where I put my foot wrong, you know, but if you're if you're coming here saying you are metacognitive yourself, um, then I I I think I I think all of us should take a back seat, guys, and let these two gentlemen speak on this in good faith.
Because by the way, look, I'm not saying uh Carl, you're not affected deeply by this. Okay?
>> No, no, you are affected by this, but it may be what you said in the article about thinking too much. You may have paralyzed yourself by your overanalysis.
And I'm saying you might have to step back. Okay? Step back, brother. Step back from the brink. Realize you understand the the what is going on. You understand what is going on. Okay? And therefore the power is within you. The power is within you. You are in intellectually endowed with an understanding of what is going on. That should allow you a path forward. That Manny don't count yourself lucky. Sir, I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to pull everyone off, guys. Um and uh I'm going to let Cougar Duma and Carl talk for a bit and then we'll come back on afterwards. So, I really don't want to distract these gentlemen from it because they know what they're talking about. We don't. Okay. So, we'll be back, guys.
Uh, just have a good faith convers audio check. Can you hear me?
>> Yeah. Was it was there something about the study I read that you can point out that you was having difficulties?
>> Okay. So, >> yeah, fine. I can address that point.
Um, I'm not real interested in studies that uh, and I don't think you should be >> I'm not interested in studies that find fault with our cognitive type. Okay. I think you and I have a responsibility to recognize >> it sounds it sounds like you're telling me that study said something it didn't say. Do you mean you didn't understand the study because it didn't say that?
Uh then what you what you can do for me right now and for everyone else in the stream uh summarize there must be one study >> the guest I don't want to talk about this stuff I just want to talk about the study you're you're changing the conversation can you just answer the question they asked >> yes I am changing I am changing the conversation because it needs to be changed okay >> no it doesn't I don't I don't want to change the conversation kuma you haven't asked me I don't want to change it I want to stay on this this is the only thing I want to talk about I don't talk about anything else otherwise get everybody else back and talk to someone else. I'm talking about this because you're you're making a claim. I've made a claim and now you're challenging it, but you're not following the rules of making claims. You're just telling it.
You're saying what cougar doom is saying is correct. I am providing I amiding I amiding you're talking >> I haven't finished talking brother.
You're over talking me. Let me just finish. I'm saying I just provided a study. I read it all out to you. I give you clear definitions. I I didn't even finish it. But you somehow seem to have understood it all and without any questions whatsoever told me it's full of [ __ ] in an indirect way. Now I'm only saying you what about what I read was incorrect. Like for example, if someone requires something to understand a truth claim, which you all do, but you guys just don't right. If so, can is a tr if is a truth claim supposed to be told or claimed in your opinion, Google? Are you supposed to tell the truth or claim it?
>> Well, first of all, I think you're going to have a lot of problems with the word truth because truth is somewhat entirely subjective.
>> Answer the question at all. You're going to completely ignore it. I asked if you >> I I am I am going to ignore it. I will ignore that question.
>> Okay. Ask >> what you're doing.
>> Ask the same question differently. can't go anywhere because I've said to you when someone tells when someone says what they're saying and they they're claiming what they're saying is true when they deliver that message should they tell it or claim it?
Uh with regards to truth, if someone thinks that someone something is the truth, then I think that they should phrase it as this is what I have observed. This is what seems real to me. I am open to other interpretations because the truth is not subject.
>> That's not my claim. That's my re that's my recommendation.
>> Yeah. So so they're claiming they're they're saying I'm claiming this to be the truth. I'm not telling this is I'm saying like this looks like what it is.
This observation things we can test.
these are my claims. Now, here's here's where my claims are.
>> Well, if if someone if someone's going to offer something as being the truth, then they have to also be willing to offer their evidence that got them to that point because truth has to be based on evidence.
>> Yes. Now, when someone's telling a story and I don't get something, what I can do is I don't need to fully understand the story. I can just wait towards the end and I can just follow along because it's not serious. It's not I'm not supposed to be taking anything as true. I'm just seeing their point of view. Their point of view, they're not saying this is or speaking lawfully, trying to get a actual lawful conversation. They just tell their story. Sometimes I get bo say, "Can I ask a question about that?"
But often I'll just try to wait because straw manning it doesn't matter if I don't understand something. But when someone's making a truth claim, if I get to a word, I don't know what they mean by that word. For me to continue building the structure of their truth claim, I have to straw man it because I don't actually know what they're saying, which I can't do. I think it's dishonest and you shouldn't do it if someone if you're trying to respond or listen to someone's truth claim. So what I do is I could you just tell me what you mean that word so I can follow along. Now when that ego turns around and says don't interrupt my telling of my truth.
I'm like wait a minute what you're upset about me interrupting your telling of the truth. Why are you telling the truth? Are you just not claiming it? Why how are you being interrupted? I don't get that stuff but everybody seems to say you've interrupted the truth. they were telling the truth and I'm like I I don't get telling the truth. Are you telling the truth? Like you said, you can't tell the truth. You need to claim it. Explain why it is. So I'm saying to you, if in my head I can't build those structures like autistic people and other people can't build different structures. And for me when maybe you have met a cognitive IQ on a low end, I don't know. But it's not what I'm experiencing because when I try to steel man people's positions and they won't help me steel man their positions cuz they won't tell me what they're actually saying. I'm like why why aren't you helping me able to steal man what you're saying so I can follow along. Why we've got to let me out leave me out.
Now common discourse says if someone requests a point of clarity to your truth claim you don't say oh you're you're interrupting. You explain that thing to him and then you carry on.
>> You could do that. Sorry Carl. I think I've I'm just I've got a burst of inspiration. I might fall flat on my face here. I think part of the puzzle here that you're missing, Carl, is you you kind of have this expectation that other people understand things or are intelligent enough, emotionally sensitive enough to act in the way that you would like them and they that they're not, you know, often. Um and and maybe you're not either sometimes in in their eyes. Uh so I I I think you just have to start accepting responsibility for your own actions, your own thoughts and how you engage with others and whether you get emotionally disgruntled by what is occurring.
And also also al also also I'm telling you I'm not you can take this or leave.
>> No, you're telling me but I'm saying why are you telling me who you don't you don't because I from watching you my analysis from watching isn't it?
Especially Especially when you get the end of the show and you say we have nothing to do with medical opinions here guys or nothing like that. None of that is us, but yet you do it all the way through your show.
>> I I I said don't take it don't take my medical uh um advice seriously. There's a difference between talking about medical things and giving medical advice. I'm not giving you a medical advice. I'm giving you my opinion, jackass. Now listen, >> listen to me.
>> It's not It's not healthy.
>> Well, you see, that might be another problem with you. You don't like listening to other people. You don't like hearing their opinions. It's all you. You you you. Who's the narcissist really? Now, >> yeah, if I can just jump in here real quick and right now, I just want to make one point. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I want to make one point now, Carl. Carl, you have to get to grips with with the situation here. There's more than you in the conversation, boy. There's more than you in the conversation. There's other people. They matter, too. Their minds work differently to you, just as you know, and and that's just the fact.
That's what communication is.
Communication is literally trying to engage with others who think differently from you. You're not the only one doing it it. We're all doing it. Thank you.
>> But your complaint seems to be my ego doesn't want to give into your necessity, which is just an ego rant, isn't it? My ego don't want to do it. If somebody has a necessity, they can't communicate unless you offer that necessity to them. Why can't I ask for it? I'm I'm not saying what is cougar, can you help me understand something?
The request I'm asking in necessity is that if someone is making a truth claim that I'm allowed to just interject with asking what do they mean by that that word so I can follow along that >> okay but that's not but that okay but that's not what you do what you do is you interrupt and when you don't get what you want and you just and you just did this with me you don't get what you want then you start shouting and screaming I think you are misdiagnosed what you have what you have is a narcissistic personal ity disorder.
That's what you have.
>> Okay, maybe I do. Maybe I do. Right.
Maybe I got that. Ready? Listen to what just happened here. I asked you a general question. Instead of answering it, you went, "Ah, but you don't do that."
>> How the [ __ ] is that logic?
>> You don't ask. You don't ask question. I didn't ask it. I didn't ask that. I didn't ask that. You interjected that.
All I said to you from anybody, person X who has difficulty communicate with people and their necessity is just that you denitate words when they don't understand it. That's all the necessity of person X. Person Y then says I don't need that.
So [ __ ] it. I don't have to give it to you. And they go right well I can't get involved then. Oh okay.
>> You are mis you are mischaracterizing conversations on this panel.
>> No you know you are mischaracterizing what I'm saying now. I'm not doing that.
I'm asking you a joke.
>> You see, Carl, Carl, meta is something that refers to itself. Is it not? You're dumb.
>> And I I don't think you've spent one moment thinking about the man in the mirror, thinking about your own personal flaws and characteristics that you have to somehow work on. You haven't practiced any meta thinking in your life. Sorry, Cougar Demer. What do you think of what I said? Was it a bit harsh?
>> No, no, that's not harsh at all. In fact, I think you have diagnosed a narcissistic personality disorder.
>> No, I'm not a professional. I'm not a psychiatrist. Uh, but he's gone now. Uh, Guru, you are welcome to come back. But I mean, we read his article. I'm I'm willing to analyze the article if he wants honestly. Uh, >> I I I would I would just for my part, do as you like, but I would rather not. A lot of this stuff is cherrypicked. A lot of this stuff just is someone trying to prove a point that they had already. Uh metacognitive intelligence means you think about thinking. That's what it means. And it also implies a theory of mind which means you can think about other people's thinking. And therefore people with met uh metacognitive intelligence tend to overthink everything. In fact we suffer from approach avoidance conflicts where we don't know how to proceed. We suffer from procrastination. We suffer from uh being uh uh you know o OCD uh you know overfocused on perfection. We do have disabilities and I do have some of these traits but I I still think that having metacognitive intelligence and being able to think about thinking and being able to think about what other people are trying to say. Okay, theory of mind is a power. It's not a disability. It has to be navigated especially when you're around people who don't understand what kind of creature you are. I am that creature. I navigate this all the time. But it's not a disability.
It just isn't.
>> Uh, can you send us the article, please, Alyssa, in the private chat here so we can get the link for it at least because we we we need to see the article.
>> Okay. But there's thousands of articles, guys.
>> Y Dog said he read the article a short time back. He says it's babble. You have dogs think >> that that would be my expectation when when you're dealing with people like me or Elon Musk or some of these other wackados and I'm a wackadoo. Okay, you have to just understand that we we think about thinking and we are it's and I want to use the word elevated but I'm using it in terms of context. Our context for for action and thought is above the mental, not superior to it.
It's simply one step above. Um my books for example tend to be self-referential there there are internal loops inside my books because I think about thinking even in my writing so that's how we operate and that's why someone like Elon Musk if you watch him talk he can't talk he can't talk he babbles he like stutters he stops he goes back and he thinks he starts over and you're like this guy is weird no he's not weird he's thinking about thinking he's thinking about thinking >> yeah the thing is there's a lot going on in that mind and and I get it I I understand. That's why, you know, that's why a lot of these autists uh take their time to start talking in the first place. Uh they can be mute as children.
They can have stutters because that their brain is like uh thinking about a lot more than other people. They're not speaking freely because they're not glib. They're actually thinking about what they're about to say.
>> You got that right.
>> Yeah. That's that's exactly my world.
That's my world.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. A and it's and uh as I say, it's a beautiful thing in my eyes. It's a beautiful thing. I I actually wish more more people thought about what they said.
>> Yeah. Truly.
>> I try my best. I try I try my best. I try my best. Uh but yeah, I think uh we could all take a page out of um these individuals, these autists and uh neurode divergent people who actually um you know think have layered thoughts >> on what they're about to say. You know, they don't just speak superficially.
They have layered thoughts. I think that's wonderful. And and I and you know, there's logic to it. And I I may maybe it could be taught. Maybe we may look I'll give the devil his due. Maybe there is something in it. Cougar Duma like an autist like um Guru or a metacognitive IQ individual like him.
High high me metacognitive IQ apparently. Um maybe there is something in it. Maybe we all have something to learn from individuals who have metacognition. Uh maybe we could benefit from learning how they think, you know.
I mean there was a book uh bestseller I think something like how to think like a psychopath, you know. And apparently it's like it was a it was quite um >> it was quite a success because some people would like those traits. They'd like to be unemotional at times. You know what I mean? They'd like to uh be ruthless and all these things. Uh at times, not all the time. There's a time and a place perhaps for it. like when you actually are facing another monster, you know, or in in a in in a very competitive arena, maybe it is good to be uh really uh to really put your emotions aside. Um, so maybe maybe Kugima, if we're if we're going to be honest, Carl has something to say and it would be worth listening and that is maybe maybe the way he thinks could help us all uh layer our thoughts and uh think differently. But the truth is the proof is in the pudding. And unfortunately, if he is the presenter for metacognition, well, I don't think he's got his best foot forward at the moment.
>> But Grumps, he contradicts himself.
And >> he does.
>> I wouldn't worry about that. We all do.
We all do. I mean, >> but he talks utter [ __ ] Okay. He sat there witchering, twittering about veganism.
>> Oh, yeah. He was talking [ __ ] about that. He was talking [ __ ] about that himself. Well, that's enough for me. I'm not as clever as you guys. So the rest of it, I don't know what he's talking about to be honest. I've got no idea.
But that simple sentence says it all to me. Says it all.
>> Yeah. And and on this on this idea that he has something to offer >> uh in this topic, you know, what he has to offer and what we can learn from this. Um there's a certain level of inauthent inauthenticity to that. Um, people with metacognition, I I I have to say as a whole, we don't care. And then one of the things that happens when you think about thinking and you think about other people's thinking is you really have to detach.
You really do. And that becomes an art form. Just listening. I've said it before. I come on here and I actually listen a lot. I really do. And I learn a lot by listening. And I'm not only listening to the sentences, I'm listening to the things between the sentences. the thing's not said. And that's that's my superpower. That's why I'm a good >> if if if you're here long enough, you remember context from previous shows and you stitch it all together and it it forms a narrative and makes more even more sense.
>> Even though even though the individual conversations can look chaotic and they are chaotic, you can still as an individual stitch some sense together from previous context.
>> I agree. Also, Grumps, he's always in the right. Well, that's not possible. I'm not as clever as you guys like I say, but even I know it's not possible to always be correct.
It's not impossible.
And and that's why I think that that although crazy guru Carl or whatever the [ __ ] he's calling himself, and that's another level of it. I mean, there are so many red flags and sirens going off when I listen to this that that this is not authentic. This is something else.
And it might be it's a deliberate diversion. It may be that this is like a disability that makes you feel better about yourself, you know, like autism has become the the the champion disability for people who just are [ __ ] You can't tell me I'm bad. I'm autistic, you know, and these kinds of things. And it just seems disingenuous to me that you're going to trot out something that is a real a real aspect of human cognition. and you're gonna trot it about as if, well, now you have to let me rant and rage and scream at people and call them [ __ ] You know, it's like, dude, that is not how this works. You're talking about something else. So, you're going to come on here and rant and rage and call everybody a [ __ ] And that's that's if anything, as I've already identified, that's cult behavior. That's cult behavior. That's a cult leader who's telling people who are maybe smarter than them to shut up and stop being a [ __ ] That's cult behavior.
Okay? That's not metacognition.
Something else completely. Now, I will say one thing, uh, Cole, uh, in terms of this met cognitive IQ stuff. I mean, he may have a point about it, but I I I think unfortunately, you know, it's it's a case that the teacher isn't good enough in this instance, and I'm sorry, Carl, but you you have to do something about your presentation, how you're engaging with the public, uh, cuz it's clearly not working. Now, I will say one thing about him though, Kodum. He he he bats on a lot about um you know teaching children and he he he's kind of like a a kind of illiterate version of Emanuel Kunt because he talks about um >> he talks about he he talks he talks about uh not teaching children through fear or reward basically. Uh that's kind of the gist of it that that I get from him. He does he doesn't like punishing children. He doesn't like making them feel overly emotional about matters. He he wants to make them do the right thing because they want to uh not because they're afraid of consequences or even he even re even because they're chasing rewards. So you know there is a lot of merit actually and I will say this I'll stand up and say this I'll I won't stand up actually but I will say this and that is what he says about um you know bringing up children teaching children I think there's actually a lot of merit in it. Now if there is a lot of merit in that that and I think there is there may be merit in some of his other stuff but I'll be honest Guru I'm just not getting it. I'm just not getting it. But look, I'm not a metacognitive IQ genius. So you somehow have to, if you are a genius, if he is, if he has any genius in him, >> surely you'll be able to understand I'm not a metacognitive IQ genius. And in understanding that, you'll be able to work a way around [ __ ] showing me what the hell you're about without, >> you know, going off on some tyrannical um, you know, Yeah. tirade. Exactly.
Does that make any sense, guys? Oh, yeah, it does. And like I'll say this much. Uh, a Guru kind of broke a record for me. He's the or he's the first he's the first person I've ever met that that has this alleged uh meta cognitive IQ.
So, there's a lot of points for him going there. Yeah, allegedly. Anyway, you know.
>> Okay. So, Alyssa says, "Well, we will see what online autism awareness groups say about this attraction. That will get you a I haven't said anything bad about autists as far as I'm aware. I think I've actually said the opposite. I've said autistic people think with layered thoughts there's much the rest of the population could learn from them. I've I've actually said that they they they have marvelous minds. I literally said that. Um but uh hey ho you spin it how you want to spin it, baby. Uh because that's just the way you do things. Uh but Alyssa um I would like you to come on and and substantiate what you're saying uh before you get your knickers in a twist.
Fatima, you are autistic. You identify as autistic. Uh, what do you have to say about autism and DNW and how I understand it or how I misunderstand it?
>> Uh, I'd say, well, I also have ADHD, so I was like listening in and out. So, I also have that too, but that's not an excuse.
No, I think that I think that you actually understand this a bit better than like the most of most like I want to say like 95% of adults because you understand that like whenever we do things it's because like we have these like these like I'll just say it uh disabilities.
Yeah. So you understand that there are things with us but like you also understand that that doesn't have to be just that disability. it could uh it could like uh help us in some ways. We could also tap it into our potential like like and and you said that you said that society could learn something from us and I do agree in some way. I do because like >> but Fatima I also want to say just because someone labels themsel as autistic or a high metacognitive IQ individual doesn't mean they're incapacitated or they shouldn't write themselves off as disabled. they may have other abilities that help them uh flourish in life, you know, and the proof is in is in the pudding. Time and time again, we see um highly autistic individuals uh rising to the top and doing extremely well in the world. So, you know, Guru, just because you claim to have this uh so-called disability or a non-disability as you view it, I would say so what? You know, um you you you've already said it's not a disability. He's literally said what he has is not autism. He has said on this show multiple times he does not have autism.
He has uh what is it called again?
Metacognitive IQ. High metacognitive IQ.
Well, it's not a disability. So, what what is he crowing on about then? If it's not a disability, then why the [ __ ] should we give a [ __ ] about you, mate?
>> Why? So, I don't understand this DN. If he's so clever, how come he's not employed or right?
>> You You get my point? If it's not a disability, why the [ __ ] should we give a [ __ ] If it's not a disability, that means he's he's able to walk on his with his own walk by himself, talk by himself, and carry himself, uh, you know, w with his own agency without the without the care of others.
>> I don't.
>> So, if it's not a disability, why the [ __ ] are you complaining so much?
>> I just don't understand.
>> Stop taking Stop taking the limelight.
Stop. I'm telling guru, stop taking the limelight away from other people who may have legitimate disabilities and who may not be so narcissistically driven uh to want to shout and spew crap in the public square. Maybe out there somewhere there's a quiet, thoughtful person with a disability who we need to listen to, not some [ __ ] who says he, you know, who doesn't have a disability. You've already claimed you don't have autism.
You've claimed metacognitive IQ is not a disability. So what the [ __ ] are you asking for special treatment for?
>> Stop stealing the limelight from people who Stop stop stealing the limelight from people who might actually need help.
>> No wonder this country's bus with all these people on benefits. There's nothing wrong with him from I can see apart from he wants to be class as disabled. Doesn't come across.
>> If he wants to come on here and say it is a disability, fair enough. But at the moment from I'm just taking the man at his word. You've all heard him, right?
He said he hasn't got a disability. So what's he going on about then? But he contradict. Yeah, but DW he does contradict himself somewhat. And he does. He contradicts himself a lot.
>> That's contradictions.
>> The issue is >> contradictions.
>> Okay, just let me jump in here real quick. DW, I'm sorry. U people who contradict themselves are not thinking about thinking. Okay, that's like red flag. If someone uses words in different ways or constantly gish galloping around arguments, this is not evidence to me that someone is stopping and saying, "Hold on, let me think about this."
Because when I do that or when I ask for a definition, wait, what are you talking about? Wait, what does that mean? I don't understand what you're saying. He claims to do that, but then he turns it into this big screaming match. When I ask people, "What do you mean by that?"
Or, "Where is this going?" I stop and I wait because I want to know. I'm thinking about their mind. I'm thinking about what they're trying to say because that's my intelligence. That's what I do. And he doesn't do that. So, he is misdiagnosed. I don't know what his problem is. I think he has a narcissistic personality disorder and he has to be the center of attention all the time. But I don't see him evidencing behavior that suggests he gives a [ __ ] about what anybody says.
>> I don't I don't nec I think he might be a bit histrionic rather than narcissistic. Is that is that fair?
Maybe he's a little patriotionic. He likes, you know.
>> No, no, I think it's worse than that.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Maybe, maybe it starts out as that and then because he's not getting his supply, he's not getting his warm fuzzies and he turns it into something worse. But I I you know, I'm just going to go with a narcissism and it's uh pathological and that's what you're dealing with.
>> Yurf Dogs gives some advice here. And by the way, this is Yurf Dog's advice. This isn't advice from the show. Uh, take it or leave it. Use it as food for thought, but it's not professional advice. The Earth Dog says, "If there is something wrong with him, to the extent he crashes out when things don't go his way here, and Alyssa is his carer, then she's either incompetent or cruel in that role." Um, yeah. I mean, I don't I don't I don't I don't know. But uh if if if he if if if the online kind of panel arena annoys him, it may be best that he stays away from it and maybe he makes his own videos in isolation or or does onetoone interviews pre-recorded and then puts them up. Um >> I mean there are other ways of putting your message out there. He is trying with these uh these articles and good luck to him. I mean as I said I don't think I'm not going to say he's stupid guys. He's not stupid. He he has a lot going on his I genuinely think he has a lot going on in his head as in he I can tell he has a lot of thoughts going on.
Perhaps too many uh to to make coherent sense. But the thing is um he he he does he has his heart is in the right place in relation to the children. Okay.
Maybe his heart is in the right place.
Maybe maybe he does look give the devil their dream. Maybe he actually cares deeply about this matter and he's on a mission to help other people who are misfits and can't quite, you know, get their words out and can't quite, you know, talk coherently and can't quite get their message out there and communicate with others. Uh maybe he's on a mission to help those individuals and uh I think that is a worthy cause.
That is a worthy cause to help people who can't communicate well. The world would be a better place if people were better at communication. Am I right?
>> Yeah.
>> Communication is key.
>> All all that all that can be true, but I'm not seeing any evidence that that is his mission. None. Zero.
>> Well, he did say one time that like he he comes on these type of spaces to to to learn how people talk, right? He did say that at one point a while back I think in the beginning of the month I come here to like learn how like a people speak and talk when I'm like well if if that's the case then like that's kind of not good because you seem to end it in like a very like you know erratic ways. Now this is not a dig at him but like we have seen this pattern before again and again you know it's it's very very a a conflicting thing to see you know. Yeah, you know, that's just my uh two cents on it.
>> Yeah. And it's especially it's especially alarming.
>> I've only read one I've only read one article about narcissism.
>> I've only made one.
>> It wasn't really my cup of tea. If I'm honest, I listened to what he just said there. Now, um again, this is another problem he's up against is, you know, sometimes it's just not people's another person's cup of temate. And um I I I don't know what to say about that. That that's a difficult thing when you care passionately about someone. Uh he is somewhat he's an activist basically.
He's an activist and I understand the activist mindset. I've been into you know different things in the past trying to push uh views and trying to oppose people and make them see the way I see things. Um so look, I empathize with his difficulty in that regard. It's not easy to get people to be interested in what you're saying if they're just not interested.
Do you get what I'm saying, people?
>> Okay. Well, that's just how life works.
That that's what happens when you come up against a mind that is not your own.
You you have a responsibility to engage in negotiations. And that's where activists go off the rail. And a lot of your activists, I'll just go and say this, painting with a broad brush, a lot of your activists are not narcissists.
They think that their way is the only way and everyone has to do that way or suffer. And you know when you're actually trying to communicate with people that that is not your approach.
In fact, you may spend more time listening before you say anything if you're trying to communicate with people.
>> It's also but I I agree with you cougar doom. It's it's a it's it's a it's a it's a very difficult mission. Doesn't doesn't mean to say that we don't need activists though does it not cougar? I mean there are out there okay there there are and there are activists that are good at being activists and what I'm trying to say is there difference between >> I agree there's a >> screams at you >> who screams at you until you shut up and do what they want there's that type of activist >> and then there's the other type of activist who sits down with you over tea or coffee and says hey >> why are you doing this why are you doing have you given any thoughts of this because I'd like to help you think this through another type of activism Yeah. I mean the you know it's it's simply not changing someone's mind. It's it's it's it's imposing a tyranny isn't it on them. It's forcing them to do something.
And that that's not nice.
>> Although it can be nice if it's the right >> Cougar Duma, let's be honest. It could be right in some circumstances.
>> Like let's be honest, Cuckoo Duma, I can think of many circumstances where it would be right and proper to force someone uh to to to do something uh or not to do something, you know, if it like for example forcing someone not to be a pedophile, for example. You know what I mean? There are times when it seems acceptable, but then again it look coug for me an activist is someone who's fighting against the consensus and the consensus is that pedophiles are wrong. So I don't know if you'd call that activism rather than just normal normal defense of a vulnerable or minor.
>> Yeah.
>> Um so to me activism is is a minority facing the herd, you know. Would you would you agree with that for the most part?
>> Okay. Let let me let me preface my answer by saying I'm just about to give you a metaccognitive intelligence answer. Okay, here it comes. I hear what you're saying. I understand where you're coming from. You probably have a background as an activist and you're naturally for your own cognitive sense of self. You're defending your approach to this. But I want to submit and and you can disagree with me, but I'm going to submit from what I have observed over 67 years of observation that activism doesn't work.
People don't want to be screamed at.
They'll let you sit down and talk.
>> No, no, no, no. But I think I think you're I I I look, people don't want to be screamed at. But as as you've already admitted and stated earlier, there are different types of activism. And some activism isn't narcissistically shouting in someone's face. It's literally a softer approach. It it's it's talking to them. It's trying to change their mind with um a conversation >> and uh with with signs and you know, silent protests and stuff like that. So, it's not all, you know, rageful narcissism. Surely, >> no, it doesn't have to be. Yeah. You know, there's some >> But what but what happens what happens though is that when someone sees a protest and it's a quiet protest, they ignore it. when some of those people break out of the protest and they, you know, set dumpsters on fire or whatever, then people say, "Oh, look, the protest." And that's what they come away with. And we were having this problem here in the US just recently when the when the people were protesting the No King's Day, we had we couldn't be burning dumpsters. We couldn't be breaking windows. They had the legitimate concerns about the process being hijacked by screaming people.
Yeah, I get what you're saying, Cougar, and I have a lot of sympathy for it, but I also have a lot of sympathy for the idea and and this is a this is a this seems to be a terrible truth, Cougar Duma, that a lot of the quote progress now that that that's a kind of that might be viewed as a dubious word to put in here, but a lot of the progress made in society has come about because some people kicked a few things over.
Yeah, that's that's kind of true.
>> I'm sorry to say that, Cougar Duma, but that that shows that there may also be a place for that in society. Obviously, I'm not I'm not asking people to go out there and [ __ ] kick things over. But I'm saying >> given that it's caused social progression before uh and it and and it seemed to uh be something that exped you know that expect expedited it or like expediated it. Um it um yeah it you can't always say it's wrong to kick a can over or kick something over can you kougum? Uh I >> uh I won't I don't want to make any blanket global statements about anything that people do and I'm sure you can find examples where someone uh setting fire to a dumpster somehow made a bit of difference because they got something on the TV. I don't know. Uh we know that the apartheid system in South Africa was overturned. We know that slavery in the United States was largely abolished. Say largely. Talk to some black people about that.
um uh women did get the vote and then women got other things. So there are times when we do make change and sometimes you could point to a suffrage jet who who you know wrote lots of letters into the newspaper and finally women got the vote. You could say it's she did that.
>> Um but I I I don't know this isn't a topic I am not an activist. I don't have any skin in this game. Uh, we were just talking about something completely different and now we're going off on activism. I think you were talking about being an activist. Cougar, this is the this is the funny thing here because you see I I think there's a place for everybody in the world within reason like all all the kind of all the so-called all these traits can be used for good. Even a psychopath like in and off themselves in and off like a psychopathic uh traits can be used for good. There are pro-social psychopaths.
There are surgeons. There are people who climb up um you know very high high and fix things very high up and um you know a lot of sports people are psychopaths.
you know, the professional ones.
>> Um, >> you know, it fearless people, people who do things that perhaps others wouldn't.
>> Um, and obviously some some psychopaths do love that they've proven that psychopaths can love people love people they care about. Not necessarily, they don't extend it as far as others. So, they're not going to be worried about so and so across the sea, but they will be worried about their family. Um, maybe it's not for the right reasons.
Maybe it's because they see them as uh like objects that validate their psychopic psychopathic narcissism. Uh, but what that that's beside the point.
The point is I'm still saying they can have a good effect on others. Same with um, you know, activists and cougar. You know, let's let's be honest here. You are an introvert. Yeah. Now I don't get me wrong, I think introverts do are an agent for social change as well because if you ever want to see um an example of uh like a scary moment, just just watch when when an introvert finally loses their [ __ ] Because when an introvert loses their [ __ ] what you get is possibly years of bottled up anger, possibly resentment, uh, and also these metacognitive thoughts that come out of all different places coming out as a volcano, >> grumpy, >> coming out as a volcano of emotion. Um, there's actually a word for it. There's a word for it. It's called the door slam.
the door slam. It's >> called It's called the door slam.
>> When introverts have had enough, >> you get the door slam >> and that's it.
>> Yeah. But I'm just saying, not everyone is an introvert. Some people are extroverts and they their way of uh dealing with things is to do a bit of activism sometimes because maybe cuckoo some introverts are not as social as some extroverts. Okay. So um I I say social cuz some a lot of extroverts are also antisocial.
So I I I say social because some extroverts clearly care about others.
You know introverts may not be as social sometimes sometimes not all the time but sometimes. And it may be that uh yeah you are an introvert Google. I wouldn't expect you you'd be less likely in my view to be an activist. I may be wrong here.
>> No you're no that's exactly correct.
Yeah.
>> And therefore, you don't you don't really cuz you're not inclined to go and party down the street with your neighbors. Uh you're less likely to hear stories about what's going on in people's lives and therefore you don't you're not affected by that. So it doesn't come on your radar. So it's not something you become concerned with. But if you were an extrovert and you were meeting people, you'd be hearing the stories. It would be perhaps resonating with you emotionally but also perhaps socially uh it would be a dilemma for you because there is politics and there is all this like social um you know um posturing that goes on in groups. So if someone tells you something maybe you have to act on it because someone told you and therefore they've given you this dilemma. Well do I stand for this or do I not? And that is part of the extroverts um life you know experience.
You don't have that. Uh so what what we've got here cougar doom is people being driven by their neurology to be like an introvert or an extrovert. And it is just what it is. It's the human species doing their thing. And for you or anybody to condemn activists, they might as well be condemning introverts for um wanting to stay in and read Reddit because at the end of the day, it's just what they do. But Grums, I'm an introvert and I used to go out demonstrating and >> as I said, I didn't say all. I I didn't say all, did I? I didn't say all.
>> Oh, so sorry. Sorry. I'm just saying.
>> Yeah. Yearf Dog says activism isn't bad or wrong, per se, but it takes a certain personality type to be an activist, especially online. There are studies linking activism and dark tribe traits.
Yes, there are. There are. No, there are. But again this is that doesn't that that is true but again >> you have to look to in my view you have to look at a deeper layer because >> as I said already if these people walk amongst us these these conditions narcissism psych psychopathy machavelianism all these things now the thing is they can either be put to good or bad use in my view yeah so it's probably for the best that they become a pro-social activist than become like some kind of predator or like, you know, serial killer, [ __ ] pedophile, rapist, whatever, drug dealer, whatever. Uh, so again, just because they have these uh these dark traits doesn't necessarily mean that they're bad people or what they're doing is bad.
>> No, it makes sense to me. I have no opinion on that.
>> Um, and you were saying, you know, at a party I might be moved by someone's story. No, I wouldn't be. I I just I say that's interesting.
>> Uh maybe I can help you with that. Maybe we can talk about that. I mean, we were just I was just kind of just now doing that with uh Carl or crazy guru or whatever he's calling himself these days. It's like maybe we should talk about this, you know? But that's about as far as I go. I I really don't get up into people's [ __ ] okay? And even the [ __ ] going on in the world. Although I have a YouTube channel where I talk about things, I'm not engaging on that channel with anybody. That's just me speaking into the void and I'm perfectly comfortable doing that.
>> So D&W, how do you see yourself? Are you an introvert, extrovert?
speaking in into the void is something >> I'm more I definitely I think I'm uh >> I might be an ambbervert but I I think I veer more towards introversion.
Uh, I I I think extraversion I I I I think I masked I learned how to do it if you know what I mean because out of necessity out out of necessity because I came from a very kind of >> macho environment where you were thrown into things and you had to it was like it was sink or swim. You had to like stand up for yourself >> and you had to you had to interact and cajol with others. You had to cajol with others because there was nowhere to go for any peace.
>> Yeah. Oh, >> you get what I'm saying?
>> Yeah. Yeah. I did the same at boarding school and in the Navy.
>> Does that make any sense to you, Coopa?
That >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Go ahead.
>> I was describing my uh although I wouldn't say I was I'm I'm I'm not in in terms of the introversion, I would say I'm closer to the middle. Like I am probably more an ambbervert, but maybe just more on the side of introversion.
like in terms of like yeah I'm just I'm just just on the side of introversion but I'm not like an extreme case you know so it I'm not ext I'm more towards the middle but on the side of introversion but as I said I I I I can go out and be very social but I think it takes something out of me more than it appears to take out of others but I can do it you know what I mean >> yeah and of the many of us here right now I am the one who selfidentif as a cat.
>> Yeah. I I'd probably be more of a fox or something.
>> Yeah. Know >> scurrying around.
>> Yeah. I >> I I live I live my introversion and to me it is it's my superpower. I I have lots of time to think and to think about thinking and think about what other people are thinking or doing. Uh I I give myself time. lots of time to get to get around things to get wrap my head around things and then once I've done that then I kind of have some confidence that I understand that other person's position or that other group's position takes me a while and I think that's that's a key component to what we started out talking about which is why I'm going on as much as I am this definition of what is metacognition and metacognitive intelligence and metacognitive IQ which I don't like that latter term at all but metacognitive intelligence remember intelligence is not u relative like some people are intelligent some people aren't uh intelligence is the ability to solve a problem or to understand a pattern that's intelligence and people with metacognitive intelligence like me we we we are skimming the surface >> of all this Right. Do you think there's anything to the theory that introverts are just people that were beaten into a box and basically they were just people who didn't bloom properly. They didn't get to flourish. I've heard that said before that inside I see every in inside every introvert is >> a disco dancer that never made it.
Girls, stop fighting.
>> I've heard that said before. I mean, it's it's quite um Kenny G says introversion is a very narrow way to live your life. Kenny, do you want to come on and uh explain that? We lost Cougar Duma. I don't know where he went.
I've asked Cole to send me his his article so we can analyze it.
we may or may not get to depending on whether he sends it in good time.
Um, Pamela says she likes shy people. I think she says she likes shy people. She doesn't like trauma. Uh, that caused her trauma. Uh, she says stay the [ __ ] away from me. So, I think she doesn't like loud people by the sounds of it.
Oh, that's a very understandable uh response. Like >> she says she's shy. She says she's shy as [ __ ] She's not introverted. She said it was imposed on her by her trauma.
That's kind of what I was getting at then. That's I think that is the case for some people. Yeah.
>> Yeah, >> that is the case for some people. Sorry to hear that. I'm sorry to hear that.
>> Life's a [ __ ] and then you die.
So, Grumps, have you still not got yourself a copy of the road map?
>> Uh, no. And I don't know if I will, babe.
>> All right, then. I don't know if he says anything we haven't really spoke about on this channel.
>> Oh, he does. He says a lot actually.
You'd be surprised what's in here. I don't know where how he keeps it all in his brain to be honest. No, there's a lot in here. Um, you know, there's No, you'd be surprised actually what is in here. I wouldn't say it to you.
>> Well, he's got a big announcement coming up on the 5th of May apparently. So maybe he's got another book coming up.
>> I don't know. But I tell you, no, I think you the alleyway or something >> in here actually. You'd be very surprised how much is in here.
>> I'm sure I would >> cuz I must absolutely flabbergasted.
>> Now, stop being facitious. You >> Oh, chickpea. We love chickpea.
>> We love chickpea.
>> We do love chickpea.
>> Okay.
>> It's a very um No, he has a lot to say in here. A heck of a lot. Um, you'd be shocked at what he does, how much he has to say, and you would be.
Granted, I'm not as well read as you, but he says a heck of a lot in here.
Do you ever read Jackie Collins? See, that's what my head's full of.
>> No.
>> Yeah. One second.
I'm just uh texting um uh Grazy Guru's misses and just trying to see if he's okay.
>> Oh.
Oh, yeah. It's always good to >> uh >> do that to make sure. Yeah, cuz I feel like that was a threat.
>> Yeah.
LA called Jeff Australian on his stream.
He was mortified.
>> Sorry, say that again.
>> Oh my god.
>> Oh, me. Oh, yeah. Like the way that she says that. Oh, well, well, well, DNW, the autism awareness groups are going to are going to deal with you later, right?
Is it Well, she didn't say that, but she said like she's going to like report you or like send in like your stuff >> to like them.
Here's another picture that David's done about that whole thing you talked about the other night. I'll just put it on for you here.
There. He's that one. That one. Yeah.
Can you see it?
>> Oh, nice.
>> That whole thing that you guys were talking about, you know, that whole whatever the words were.
>> I'm a bit stupid compared to you. Look.
Fatim did you understand that talk Fatima?
They were talking about the other night that weird stuff.
I'm talking to you.
Oh, thanks. I love you too, Liz.
Fatima.
>> Oh. Oh. Oh. I'm sorry. Uh I actually I I couldn't hear you because like my screen was freezing. What's up?
>> Sorry. Did you understand what they were talking about the other night? Do you understand all that that thing with that weird what was those words?
>> I understand like the bare bones of it. Yeah. Like like the tour essentially saying that uh consciousness is fundamental.
Yeah. essentially and that there are patterns in the >> in our realities that lead to the shape that lead to our uh that lead us to conclude that like the shape of our universe could be a tooid. Yeah.
>> Oh yeah. Yes. I understand like like a donut. Yes, I know that. Yeah.
I just find it all it's too much for me to handle. I find just being alive enough to handle to be quite honest. You know, my mind can't take anything else.
It just can't handle it anymore. Oh yeah, >> that's very understandable. Yeah, but like for I guess interested in like me like I just take interest in it like the origins of like our reality though that's also a very complicated issue in of itself. Yeah, >> I must when I was your age my only thoughts were uh where am I going to go tonight for fun when I was your age?
What was I you're 25? What was I doing when I was 25? Oh, I was in Berlin. Yes, Berlin in Berlin. Yes, they got to Berlin when I was 25, but I was just partying.
>> That's cool.
>> Yeah. Yes. Oh, yeah. I had a nice time when I was young. I did enjoy it. I wasn't as heavy thinking as you are. I didn't start thinking heavily until I came here. I know that's hard to believe.
>> I would imagine this is just this is meant to be light relief. Tricky.
>> I find it quite heavy going. been >> what do you find this like relief at him?
>> We're kind of like a tabloid kind of uh show, are we not?
>> Oh, we lost we lost um >> Yeah, he's gone. He's having top of his phone. I don't understand how you lot can do all this on your phone.
>> Do you do all this on your phone, Grumps?
>> No. No, I I I have before, but not not at the moment. No, but I I have um I have been on StreamYard from my phone before. I don't do the shows ever from my phone, though.
>> But I've gone on other panels from my phone before.
>> Oh my god. No, I couldn't do it.
>> Yeah.
>> No, I have to have No, I couldn't do it.
Yeah, I prefer to use my laptop. I've always preferred my laptop.
In fact, I'm dreading the day when everything goes onto the phone cuz I won't go out anymore because the thought of having to try and run a bank account on my lap on my phone absolutely horrifies me.
It does.
So, I will never go out again once all that starts. I will just stay indoors and I will order everything.
Yeah. I don't know really. It's difficult. Life is difficult. And And you know, Grazy Guru, I mean, I don't think he's stupid. I think >> I don't know what I I don't know what's going on with Grazy Guru. I'm a bit >> No, he's not stupid.
Far from it.
>> He He's actually he's actually got a lot going on his head and as I said already, he makes good points about some things.
And because there's a lot of depth and a lot of consideration uh being given to how to raise children, he's, you know, he's right about some of the stuff he says, uh we should perhaps extend our thinking to his other ideas as well. Um but I'm just not getting it. That's the truth. I mean, I don't understand why he comes on. Look, I'm honest. guru, if you're listening, you've said on the show, you're not autistic, you're not disabled, and then and then and then and then you say you've got a genius level of uh metacognitive IQ.
From where I'm from my vantage point, you look like uh you're more intelligent and able than, you know, the vast majority of people on this panel. Uh if if that's the cards you're playing with, uh you know, well, it seems you're gifted. So, um I I just don't understand why he then wants to be treated differently. I just I just can't understand it because if he understands the ins and outs of the, you know, metacognitive IQ and such and he's not disabled, he's not autistic, then why uh why why does he get angry and why does he expect us to cowtow to him and bend over for him? I don't get it, Cole. I don't understand it. I also don't understand the whole act thing where he puts on an act and he pretends to be this person, that person. I don't understand.
Crazy guru. Sometimes you have to understand other people have limitations. I'm being honest.
>> I'm I'm holding my heart out for you to see.
>> Please don't mock me. I don't understand.
>> I'm limited in this way. I don't understand.
>> Maybe he should study for a doctorate or something. Maybe he's bored and he needs something to occupy in his mind like you know study for a doctorate.
>> Says Grazy Guru stay well my lovely. You come with opinions the same as others as she gives a little heart sign. Good on you Pamela. Good on you Pamela. Sending well wishes to Grazy and Co. Good luck to Grazy. We do hope you're okay.
You know me grandson just a silly old cat lady. It's sad brute reality of it all.
What do you think of Palanteer? You know the company Palunteer?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. What do you think of them?
>> Um they're getting a lot of power.
They're acrewing a lot of power and they have uh >> they have some strange designs.
>> Yes. They have unusual characters at their just >> Yeah.
>> Yes, there is enough time to come on.
Yes. Yes, there's enough time. I'll I'll share the link in the live chat. Anybody wants to come on, please do. Link is in the live chat.
Yeah, we got we got plenty of time.
Link is in the live chat.
>> So, >> so what do you think of Palanteer?
>> Well, I I don't know what to make of them, you know. I think um yeah I I I don't well you know me I believe AI and all that is all through the mark of the beast and all that stuff. So you know my nonsensical thinking and I still believe it. So I think they are creating an AI hell which they are going to entrap people in in a horrible way.
That's what I believe cuz I must admit it is very attractive.
Wonder what David has to say about it.
Oh dear.
Jay, you're on the Finding No Show.
Welcome, welcome, welcome Jay. I'm going to bring it back to basics. And that is the topic of the show. Jay, you're tied up. You're you're in a chair. You You can't escape. And there is a some grim individual in front of you holding a gun. uh pointed towards your forehead, not not far away, maybe a few inches. Um they say to you, "What are your last words?" And they also say, "These words will be recorded and shared on the internet after they have dispatched with you."
>> Um so under such circumstances, what are your last words? The reason I ask it, it's a thought experiment to try and find out what really matters because you know when you know push comes to shove, I feel that we might be able to find out what matters in such circumstances because what you really think about under such a you know duress such under such a situ dreadful situation whereby you haven't got any time left only to say certain things.
Maybe that will be when you actually say what really matters.
Oh, well, um, if if it's with a shotgun, then I I guess I can't say what what I was originally going to say. But, um, I guess I would say what I would say now, though, is that, um, you know, uh, to to all the parents out there, this is what can happen will happen to your child someday. So, please do not bring another poor innocent being into this wretched hellscape of an existence. and spare your child from this unenviable fate that I'm about to experience. Um, being shot to death. And that's what I would say.
>> That's it. I know it's it's bleak and it's pessimistic.
>> Say it again. Say it again. Say it again. Are you sure you'd say this? Are you sure you'd say this? Say it again.
>> Yeah, that's exactly what I would say. I would say to all the parents out there, uh, this is exactly what can and and will happen to your child someday. So, please do not bring another poor innocent soul into into this wretched hellscape wretched hellscape of an existence to suffer and eventually die a gruesome unen and unenviable death like I'm about to um experience.
So, yeah. Are you going to experience it?
>> Huh?
>> What do you mean you're going to experience a gruesome death? How do you know?
>> Because he said is a Didn't DW say it was a shotgun?
>> Oh, sorry. Sorry. Yeah, but that's not a gruesome death. That's a quick one.
That's not a gruesome death.
>> Well, not always. Like it it depends. It depends on where if they shoot you.
>> Well, you're going to shoot you in the head. That's not a gruesome death. It's a nice way to go, I would say.
>> No, that's what I said. Like if it was a if it was like I was getting like in an injection or something. I would say yeah, thank you.
>> No, bullet in the head gone.
>> Yeah, it's not that way.
>> I don't know. But yeah, >> I wouldn't mind a bullet in the brain when the time goes comes.
Mustn't say these things.
>> Yeah, you got to be careful saying that turning up with a gunful >> cuz like Yeah.
That's not a bad way to go. Bullet and bra, don't it?
>> Wow, look at what Kenny said. Crazy.
>> I know.
Stupid little man. Nasty little man. I just don't know what sort of man. You know, when I was young, I was such a sweetie to old people. And I was I was a real sweetie pie. And I just can't believe there were how times have changed in that respect.
>> Yeah.
>> I can't believe it.
It's tragic. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Don't worry. Don't worry. I You know, my feelings are reciprocated.
Don't you fret.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, then I guess wait, one more thing I would add to my statement is that um and to everyone else who uh is um who is still around, like make sure to to to love to love each other, care for each other.
and um to make sure not to not to make life more difficult for each other than it already is. And that that's the end of my statement.
>> Yeah.
>> And that's it.
>> Just basically tell people not to bring more people into this world >> to suffer and die and to for everyone to love each other and that's it.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> There you go.
>> Yes.
>> There you go. Thank you for that. Um H >> Yeah. A nice [ __ ] hell. Kenny goes, "A nice way to go." Noted. Obviously, he's playing games there in the comments. Yeah, there you go. Um >> Oh, lovely.
>> Yeah, but obviously he didn't. He's >> Yeah, but uh you know, he's on a wind up chickpea.
>> I hope so, DMW. I truly hope so.
I have my neighbors know his name. They know where he lives.
>> Whoa.
>> You said you were moving. I thought you said you were moving anyway.
>> Yeah, I am moving, but I will be moving.
But just for now, I have informed people.
>> Wait, wait. Do you know his actual full government name?
>> Yeah, there's details of him online.
>> Wow.
Interesting.
Yeah.
>> It's called 192.
H.
>> Well, you better be careful, Kenny, because she can dox you.
>> Don't dox people on on here, please.
>> No, I know. I'm I'm not telling her to do it, but I'm just saying be careful cuz if he continues to piss her off, she might, you know.
>> What? Me? What? What? What might I do? I got I can't do anything. He's twice my size. What can I do?
>> No, I mean docs. Docs. Like like that reveal his personal information on the internet.
>> Well, I haven't done that.
No, that's why I said you might do it if you like you you got you got, you know, continue to be threatened.
>> I haven't said anything.
>> Yeah.
>> Wait, is someone typing?
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THING IS, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST an ordinary little female and if people start making threats towards me, there's nothing I can do apart from tell my friends what's happening and um it's all I can do and I have told >> Yeah.
>> I don't know what to make of it.
>> Yeah. Oh, by the way, DMW, um what would your final words of friendship are nice?
I agree.
What?
>> Oh, yeah. I asked him that earlier and he said he he didn't know.
>> He didn't know. Oh, >> okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Hello, Earth dogs. Guys, I'm going to get a red bush tea. I'll be right back.
Welcome. Welcome.
>> Okay.
>> Hi, ladies and gentlemen. What's up?
>> Hey, Yurf.
>> Hi. What's up?
>> What would your final words be? Y.
>> Oh, actually your dog. What's all this thing happening in Japan now about girls having their Have you read it about girls having their ribs removed to look younger? Have you heard that?
>> What?
>> Girls, >> that's crazy.
>> Having their ribs removed so they look younger. I mean, they're gorgeous anyway. I don't know what the heck they're doing cuz Japanese girls are beautiful, but yeah.
>> Wait, how how are they still able to survive if they have their ribs taken out?
>> Well, to make themselves look younger and Yeah. more >> But that's what I'm saying, right? But but wouldn't that like you know impact your ability ability to like breathe and stuff?
>> I don't know. I'm not a medic. But >> it's first I've heard about it.
>> I didn't surprise me.
>> Yeah. Stuff on YouTube about it.
>> That's insane.
>> Well, it must be true.
>> Same as these guys that are doing what's they're doing man planning where they're actually breaking chipping the bones in their face.
>> Oh yeah. Like this um this young >> Yeah. this young influencer.
>> What?
>> Cleul, he's the he's the guy behind all that.
>> Oh, yeah. He does he he does that. He he he famous for like >> make his face more like a defined and like a a chiseled. Yeah, he's [ __ ] dumb.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So stupid. Like it is like peak like Gen Z [ __ ] like brain slop.
Yeah.
Yeah, I I don't know. This this species is is is done in my opinion.
>> J, what's up, mate? Good to see you.
>> Hey, man. Good to see you, too. What's up?
>> You you're you're you've been a a rear a sighting around these parts.
>> Yeah. Well, yeah, I've kind of taken a bit of a step back, but I'm I'm usually in the comments nowadays.
>> Okay, good man.
>> Yeah.
Well, same with I could say the same for you. Uh we we don't really see you as much nowadays, too.
>> Oh, he's always kind of taken a back back. I've stepped back a little a little bit.
>> I know. J's like >> J is like some strange Caribbean yeti wandering around on the internet like a phantom. We don't know whether he's there or not, you know.
>> But you have dogs. There is stuff on YouTube about it. I've just Googled it.
There is stuff >> I'm sure it's true. I'm sure that there are people doing that. I I don't keep up with that kind of stuff. But um yeah, >> how because they are beautiful, aren't they? Japanese girls.
>> I can't complain.
>> Absolutely gorgeous.
>> And no, I'm not a lesbian.
>> No, the women here are very, very beautiful.
>> They are gorgeous looking. Mine is so the guys I think the Japanese have That's a good looking mate. There lot it's the same but then after a while you you realize it's the same as anywhere there are some stunners but >> no but it is it is true. It is true when you're walking down the road in some places cuz when when girls go well girls women young women go out to um like shopping and stuff they get dressed up to go shopping. It's great.
>> Yeah, we used to when I was young to them.
>> We used to when I was young. Yeah.
God, you know, when I was young, I wouldn't answer the door, let my makeup on, and I wouldn't. That's how we were back in the 70s and 80s. Wouldn't go >> the first thing, one of the first things I noticed when I came here, you I'd go to Shinjjuku and um >> and I mean, I'm just a Kiwi, mate. I just [ __ ] I'll just go out while I slept in.
>> And um you just walking around the shops on a Saturday morning or something, and the woman are just dressed to the nines.
It's like, >> yeah, we used to be like that. I was like that when I was young. Yeah, we were like that when I was young.
>> I think we should go back to that tradition. God bless the patriarchy.
Let's do that.
>> Yeah. But yeah, it was like that. It was.
Life has changed a lot.
Yeah. We used to be like that. Yeah.
That's how it was.
We used to be a lot thinner as well.
Yeah, >> I'm still thin, but you know, >> I think all that [ __ ] about, you know, >> women want to look nice whether there's a [ __ ] patriarchy or not.
>> Oh, yeah. I I don't care for the reason.
I don't care what the reason is. Just do it. Great.
>> Yeah.
>> I'm fed up hearing all that [ __ ] about, oh, women me men [ __ ] tell women what to wear. They do not. I did not.
>> No.
>> Maybe.
>> Maybe in [ __ ] Islam. Maybe in Islamabad, but not anywhere else.
>> No.
>> Yeah. Islamabad. Kabool. Yeah. Where else?
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> DMW just dropping bombs into the chat to see if we see if anything catches fire.
>> [ __ ] me. There was a serious start to this show. You thought the crazy [ __ ] was bad. [ __ ] me. Did it kick off in the beginning?
>> Wait. Yeah. What What happened to Grazy?
What What I haven't seen him in a while.
>> He He left a little moment ago.
>> What was this? What happened at the start?
>> Oh, >> well, Chickpe, this guy called El Pero.
First of all, El Pero was picking on Chickpea and Chickpe was picking on El Pero, right, in defense. And then Grazy and his misses came on and they were saying Chickpe was bullying Il Pero. And then I threw a real spanners in the work saying, "How dare you, you know, um what did I say? Emasculate um um he's a fully grown man and she's a 72-y old woman.
How dare you say he's being bullied by a 72-y old woman. How dare you bully him by saying that?"
>> And that really got things going.
>> And that really triggered like Carl and and like Alyssa.
>> But you saw my point.
>> Yeah. Oh, I do.
I mean again we have to remember that the these people have already stated that they they love to cause chaos and drama. Just just just a reminder.
>> So they they very they very very well could just could just have been playing it playing it up.
>> Just the normal noises in here.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. No, >> J. Let's have another fight. Okay, let's let me think of something. Um, >> well, don't bother picking on me, you dog, cuz I think you're real sweety. So, I won't fight with you if you pick.
>> I'll fight you. I'll fight you. I'll fight you. [ __ ] it up.
Wait, I thought kiwis were supposed to be nice.
>> Where'd you get that from?
>> Well, go on then. Just stop.
>> Oh, yeah. You want the fight? Okay. Um, graraw.
Wait, dear thoughts, what what would be your answer to the the stream question?
>> Oh, what the [ __ ] I don't even know what that is. What is it? Hold it. I'm just going to go and pour my coffee and I'll be back in 10 seconds. Hang on a second.
>> Okay.
Have any of you guys read um David Dyke's latest book?
>> No, but I saw that he he dropped a new a new video, right? Yeah. Yesterday.
>> Watch sometimes his interviews and like the his interviews. I do sometimes watch like his like uh vids. Yeah.
>> I tell you something though, guys. I've got all of his books and he was writing certain things 15 years ago that are coming true now. I don't know how >> like what's what's an example?
>> Epstein. He was writing about Epstein years ago >> and and I believe also >> he was writing he wrote about the 911 thing when he had some interesting things to say about it and well I must admit um yeah >> very chicky would you would you date uh um David Ike >> what do I think >> no would you date would you date him >> yes >> um would I Actually, it's an interesting thing that because I do like >> maybe maybe when he was younger you might have had a pop, but he's he's >> No, no, I prefer him now that I'm older.
>> Interesting.
>> I prefer >> a snuggle buddy. A snuggle buddy.
>> Yeah. I think myself sometimes I I would if I bumped into him, I would ask him for a hug and I would. That's sad.
>> No.
>> No, that's not sad.
Yeah, I've been a fan of his on and off for years, ever since all this started.
And but I'll tell you something weird, DNW.
His life started falling apart the same time his mind did. And he's also got RA.
Do you know that? Do you know he's got RA?
>> Wow.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. He's got RA, but he's cured by a herbalist and he talked about that years and years ago already.
>> Interesting. Herbalist.
>> He's got he's got experience. He's written about it. That's why he stopped being That's why he stopped playing rugby. He played rugby. No, footballer, wasn't he?
>> He was a goalkeeper at Coventry.
>> Yeah. Yeah. He stopped all that because of the RA.
>> He was on the way to be a pro at one point, wasn't he?
>> Yeah, >> he was a pro.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> He was he was a goalkeeper for Coventry.
He was a pro professional footballer.
And uh then he retired because of his arthritis.
>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Thank you.
>> Well, yeah, he did. He did retire. It was an early retirement because of It was a forced retirement because of um >> because of RA. Yeah. But Chickpe, nobody Everybody retires because their body [ __ ] them up. That's what it Nobody People don't retire for no reason.
>> Even people who retire later on, they retire because they're older and they're not able for anymore. It's the same.
They retire because of their biology one way or another.
>> Anyway, um >> it's interesting.
>> Yeah. Then he became then he became a pundit for the BBC, a football pundit.
And then uh >> then he started wearing tapeless tracks suits.
>> Yeah.
>> Wait, but how old was he when when he retired? Because that's a pretty young age to get RA, right?
>> No, I got mine in late 30s. Mine started playing late 30s.
>> Oh, >> I'm not sure what age he was.
>> I think Yeah, that's a pretty young age to get arritis with me. Well, it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't osteoporosis. It wasn't osteo It wasn't it wasn't osteoarthritis which is from being worn down.
>> It was rheumatoid which is like >> which is an immuno problem isn't it?
immunity. It's an immune system.
>> Oh. Oh, okay.
>> Tissue basically.
>> It basically causes your Yeah. Exactly.
Your immune system starts attacking itself and then you get like >> inflammation in your joints and it's very painful.
>> Yikes. That's that's horrific.
>> Jeez.
Sorry.
>> Yeah. You see old people with it sometimes as well. They have they've had it for years and their hands become all deformed.
>> Yeah.
>> Because not move and they can't move their hands. It's quite horrific.
>> I think my grand I I mean it's it's a real hard thing to live with the poor people that have it, you know.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I've And I tell you something, you know, LA, that visible guy who talks about, you know, um wanted to kill everybody off and things, he told me to take a particular thing. I started taking it and it actually works better than the drugs I get given. And that's actually happened.
That's how crazy it all is.
Well, I'm glad that's that something's been able to help people. It's >> helped. It's actually helped. I used to be on coding for it and I'm nearly off the codine. I used to take one heck of a large amount every day and I'm almost down to just 20 milligrams a day as opposed to I used to take 240 milligrams a day.
>> I know.
>> Well, maybe that's what David I started taking.
>> No, I Yeah. I don't know what he he's never mentioned what he takes for it, you know, but um yeah.
>> Well, is there an email or or like an Oh, I think he's on Twitter, right?
Maybe you can like DM him on Twitter or something and and ask him.
>> No, we've got him email.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> No, it's nearly killed me. That was LA did that. You know, LA that email.
>> Yeah.
>> Yes. weird. It's very strange. And that was just a short conversation. It fell out of his most weird.
>> But >> Oh, sorry. Go ahead, Fina.
>> Oh, I was going to say, do you know what else is pretty iconic about Ike is his hair. He still has like that uh that >> Yeah, he has really nice hair. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> The mullet. Yeah, he still has that mullet.
>> Yeah.
>> Reminds me a bit of uh what do you call him? Um this actor Joe Dirt.
>> No, no. Um, from uh from Star Wars.
What's his name?
>> Oh, I I couldn't tell you. Star Wars.
There's a lot of There's Henry >> Mark Mark Hamill or whatever.
>> Mark Hamill. Mark H. Yeah, Mark H. Yeah, >> it reminds me of him a bit.
>> Yeah, I I wonder how he manages to amass all this information inside his brain cuz he does seem to have it all inside his head because he talks about it. So, how do you remember?
>> He uh he reads a lot, you know.
>> Yeah, but still, how does he remember?
He he really must have a fabulous brain >> because I can't remember half the stuff I read.
>> Stupid anyway, but still.
>> Yeah, very uh expansive mind. Well, I'll say that much.
>> Yeah, he really has got one heck of a mind on him.
read like old like >> esoteric texts and like and like religious ideas and can implement them in like geopolitics of our day. It's very impressive actually how someone can do that. But >> I think I think it's been done elsewhere and like some like other like but like I think he's like the one of the more like popular ones. Yeah. But he's he's really really interesting regardless of what side of the aisle you on >> on like his >> he's just really interesting to like hear out, you know.
>> Yeah.
>> I've got a little book here, guys. I've got a little book here, guys. It's little fun book.
>> Um book, >> The Basic Law of Human Stupidity, the international bestseller.
>> Wow.
>> The five laws that confirm our worst fears. Stupid people can and do rule the world.
>> Yeah, right.
>> It's only a fun little book, I think.
But >> I've read a bad book before.
>> There's a great book. I'm looking at it now. It's called The Story of Stupidity, >> and it's written by James Wells, and I It's fantastic. It's It's great. Get Get hold of that book if you can. It's awesome.
>> Say that again.
>> Story of stupidity, James F. Wells.
>> All right.
>> It's awesome. It it'll just you just kind of read it and go, "Oh my god, we're so we're so retarded."
>> Can What if you guys write that under the video afterwards so that I remember it cuz I I won't remember.
>> Right.
>> The what?
>> Yep. The what >> on my notes.
>> It was good timing with my profile picture. I was just cropping in that book there when you said it. I was like, "Oh, I'll put a list in the chat.
>> That that Ken Coat's book is good. Yeah, if I got that, it was cheap on >> Yeah, it's a goodie. E, it's a really really good overview of everything related to that stuff.
>> And you, what's your take on Danny's book?
>> It's AI. I don't give a [ __ ] And I think Danny's a dick. So, there you go.
>> Sorry. Okay.
Says >> stupid people with money pretend to run the world.
H >> well there is this thing I I mean there is the tyranny of the mob I mean >> I mean yeah I mean power still has to contend with the money uh and there is a friction there there is but uh I still think yeah governance isn't all one way not in this world but but but certainly it would seem this the balance tips towards one side and I think that's uh the people running everything the and sometimes They're running it from behind the curtain with it may maybe maybe with their money >> uh and maybe not not overtly. You know, it might literally sometimes be it might even be this sometimes, guys. And that is they're not overtly telling corrupt power what to do, but the power is bending to these guys cuz they network and they meet them and they they're smooching. So, they're not always doing things cuz they've been told what to do.
They're doing things to try and appease and please people so that they are trying to build a reputation >> and maybe maybe pathing a way forward where they will be hope they will hope that there will be some reciprocation going forward you know that the power will give back to them you know I I think a lot of that goes on >> yeah M >> Christine, what did you just say before that?
>> Oh, I don't remember. I have a bad shortterm memory.
>> Yeah, I don't >> story of stupidity. There we go.
>> A history of western idiocy from the days of Greece to the present. James F.
Wells. We should do a link in the private chat. So, >> not >> Oh, thank you for that. Yeah, cheers.
>> God, it's £22.
>> Wow.
>> Maybe the Kindle version might be cheaper.
>> Yeah.
>> No, there isn't one >> in my Amazon. It's overund former.
>> It's 43,000 yen here. My goodness, that's ridiculous.
>> Wow.
>> Obviously.
>> Yeah, there there doesn't seem to be a uh You're right. There's no K paperback only.
>> Say I'm not. Now I'm thinking how >> you know you know you know what though it might be uh I was going to say it could be a ploy to get stupid people to buy it but that that's not on you dogs.
>> No it's out of print obviously >> spending£22 on >> touche touch.
>> Uh how many pages is it? It says here. Oh >> hang on. But you know what? is always a good idea. It's always worth the put the title of the book in to Google and then put PDF after you didn't hear.
>> Yeah, I was going to say that you could there are other ways of doing it.
Chickpe, I might tell you.
>> Yeah, but that book is actually um used the 22.
>> Wow.
>> From um >> [ __ ] It might be out of print to be honest.
>> It's out of print. That's what's happen.
>> That might be it.
>> You can get it, but £22 or >> 25 27.
Yikes. Both secondhand.
>> Wow, that's a lot.
>> Yeah, that's a shame.
>> In in my Amazon, it's worth it's it it cost over $158.
God damn.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. [ __ ] hell. Um I'll buy this within like the next two years.
>> Jesus.
>> Yeah. It's probably not worth that. Hang on a minute. What is What's this?
Okay, maybe I found something.
>> Sorry.
>> 1988 publication. Yeah, whoever that guy is, I don't know why his family or someone hasn't repub he might not be around anymore, but >> it might be that you know, >> they should have like uh republished it.
>> Anyway, yeah, I mean it's obviously when I bought it, it was probably 20 bucks or something, but um so yeah, just to >> James F. Wells.
>> James F. Wells. Haven't heard of him before. H.
>> No, I'm just looking to see if there's anything else. Uh, >> no, I can't see.
>> No, that's all there is.
>> That's it. That's the only book I can see by the guy.
>> So, you read that? Have you read the Ken Coat's book DW or you just >> No, I haven't read it all. No, I haven't read it all. I've just started it. But it looks good.
>> Yeah, it's one of those staples. I think if you're Yeah. If if if you're if you are actually genuinely interested in antiatalism and pessimism, I think it is one of those necessary books you you should read.
>> I'm hoping it won't depress me.
>> Also, Conspiracy Against the Human Race.
I mean, if we're going to start shooting off titles, but that's always a good one as well.
>> I've got that here.
>> I've got that somewhere.
>> That's a killer book. That is >> great. I can Yeah, it's a great book.
name any page. I'll ring you a par read you a paragraph and it is a great book.
>> Yeah, his he's obviously I mean he's obviously skilled at writing but there you know there are just some writers who are just so [ __ ] good at their art and he's >> who goes there page 72. No philosopher has ever satisfactorily answered the following question. Why should there be something rather than nothing? It seems a fair question on its face, but that it should even be asked may seem to some of us inexplicable, even preposterous. Um, what the question suggests is our uneasiness with something.
Alternatively, there is nothing troubling about nothing. It's good, isn't he? Because we cannot give it consideration. Something, on the other hand, allows our allows or necessitates our experience of the uncanny. Whether we are speaking of something that evolved naturally or was made by uh the digits and opposing thumbs of humanity, whether it is um animate or inanimate, that something may become uncanny to us, a uh a contravention of what we think should or should not be. Sorry guys, it's a little bit dark here where I am.
I can't see the page very well.
>> That's just your soul.
Oh, >> that's that that too. That too.
I mean that book should be should be pretty cheap and accessible. I guess it must be.
>> Oh, it is. It is. But the thing about him is he's got he's got he he wrote a lot that leg, you know, the horror stuff.
>> He was a horror author. I think that was >> his HP blood.
>> Yeah. For conspiracy against the human race.
>> Yeah. I mean, that's on audio book, I think, on YouTube, but I I now I regret saying that cuz all you lazy [ __ ] will go and do that.
>> I have a copy here of of his book.
>> I I think there's nothing wrong with doing a bit of both, you know.
>> Yeah, >> you can listen as you're doing other stuff and then, you know, you can also read as well. I I think I I think I think to be honest with you, >> I think it's you I think it's a good use of your time sometimes to listen to an audio book as you're walking or doing something else, you know, cuz your mind I think your mind your when I walk when I'm walking outside sometimes in the parkway and I put on an audio book, your mind works differently when you're walking. I don't know what it is, but sometimes it just brings some and sometimes it brings something to the four that you wouldn't have got from sitting down reading it, you know, sometimes.
>> Yeah.
But you shouldn't you shouldn't just do one or the other in my view, you know.
>> Yeah. I mean, you use Yeah. But but I think when it becomes a replacement for reading >> proper, that's a problem. I think >> but you know, I'm just one of those old old men yelling at cloud purist.
>> No, I get what you're saying. Um I get what you're saying. There's definitely in terms of uh self-discipline read sitting down getting reading and sitting down is is definitely a skill and it also helps with other things not it's literally not it's also not just the topic you're reading it's literally a lot of other things in life it helps with you know >> well one of the skills that develops it your your mind focuses >> for a long period of time on on something and you've got to follow like pages and pages of text that that's a discipline that you actually have to learn how to So you don't forget what was 10 pages back kind of thing.
>> We are lucky though that you know at least we got we we weren't I wasn't brought up with the internet so I did read when I was a kid you know um we we may there are lots of kids out there now that just don't read. I mean for me reading was entertainment when I was a kid you know and also I had lots of like so it was entertaining because I I I read stories and stuff but I also I used to love like science books as well like reading all weird facts and [ __ ] like that you know and history books as well.
>> Um >> Oh yeah I did I didn't read I didn't read philosophy when I was a kid. I I read story I read like the stories and stuff like that but I read um the literature but I also read like science and like history books. That's it. history as well. That was my >> the um >> yeah, a lot of kids now they're just not grown up with that, you know? They because parents aren't buying books for them, you know? Back in my day, parents would buy you books to shut you the [ __ ] up, you know?
>> Yeah.
>> Now they just give them a [ __ ] iPad or something, you know?
>> Yeah. iPad, tablet, whatever, you know, anything that's >> Can you imagine growing up without literally there were kids growing up without a physical book ever in their house?
Oh my god, that's kind of that's insane.
>> Yeah, that's scary.
>> There are kids there are kids like that all over the world.
>> I I have some of those in my >> And there there are kids that probably um I mean they would have read at school. I'm sure they still read at school, but >> maybe but they but outside of school, they're not really doing much, you know.
>> And we call this progress, huh?
>> Crazy.
>> Oh, yes. That is >> There are kids listening to that goddamn rap music. It's not music.
No, I agree with that. Yeah, just it's just not it >> really. I'm >> in In actual fact, I think UF Dogs was kidding, but I would say >> really good rap music actually has really cool like use of language and also clever clever imagery, metaphor.
It's real good rap is fantastic. It's got so many things going for it. It's poetry. It's also it's also an it's like an anthem sometimes. It's also like a a protest me. It's political. It's also um you could argue a lot of it is kind of um let's just say analysis of the psyche, you know, it's psychological.
>> The only thing I like >> I'd rather that than listening to some [ __ ] girl band talking about [ __ ] candy floss and [ __ ] lipstick, you know?
Yeah, that's that's true.
>> I mean I mean there are certain genres of music.
>> I wish your girlfriend was hot like me.
>> Yeah, I remember that one. I remember that. My [ __ ] ex has a ringtone or something.
>> [ __ ] hell. And and and what was the other one at the time? There was another one. Push push the button or something.
It wasn't about ephilis. It was about um >> Yeah, the [ __ ] the pussycat dolls.
Remember that one?
>> Was that was ring by doll, wasn't it?
>> No. Push the button or something. Push the button.
>> Push the button. All right.
>> Wait. Wait.
>> You'll have to I'm going to look it up.
See if it was.
>> But >> I remember that song was massively popular.
>> There was one song back on student radio which the lyrics were just so overtly sexual. I'm not going to sing it here or even recite it here, but it was awesome.
Anyway, back to you guys.
>> The song is called Push the Button. It's by the Sugar Babes. You could actually do a funny montage there with uh in mendum superimposed >> on one of those uh ladies. That would be funny.
>> That sounds a bit dodgy. Superimposed on one of those ladies. Let's not see that.
>> His his face like telling people to push the button.
>> Oh, right.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> And then and then I think when >> by the way he had his 1,000th his 10,000th what the [ __ ] uh recently 1,000 videos. Wow.
Saying the same thing again in different ways.
>> Same thing every single time. Yeah.
>> And never developing beyond that. Now, I would say it's interesting because I watched his latest um upload and it does seem back in the day he used to have people who and I think this is might be he had people around him that made him think differently back in the day because I listened to his most recent video. He's talking about some girl or some woman who was in his like little online community and they were they used to question him and make him think differently about things. And I think one thing about him is he may have become uh too big uh in that in the little online like echo chamber that he was in and nobody qu nobody was willing to like none of his so-called friends questioned him. You know what I mean?
>> Yeah. Yeah, he he kicked off around the same time um what's his guy TJ Kirk did.
They they kind of they actually bounced off each other at times. I think >> you know Gary lost that and he's always been pissed off about that and so >> the Amazing.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he's always just so he ended up in this little niche place.
He started off honestly, you know, I I mean there's other people, but um I mean we don't need to talk. I'm happy to change the subject, but when Gary started his earlier videos, he's actually quite a quite a friendly chap cuz you know he's early. He hasn't sort of >> turned into the monster that he became and then once he sort of Yeah. then blah blah blah.
>> Yeah.
>> Blah blah blah.
>> Again, I don't know. I don't know what happened there, but you're right. Um are you puking? Says, um I don't know.
They're talking amongst themselves in the chat. By the way, guys, if you want to come on, link is in the chat. Uh, do come on and uh, yeah, say what you're going to say.
>> Pristine, what have you got on Spotify?
You just put something in the private.
What is that? What What do you have there?
>> Sugar Bay, probably. Is it?
>> Well, she says to follow her on Spotify.
>> Oh, okay. She making music now.
I don't even have a Spotify account.
There you go.
>> I do. It's actually quite useful.
>> Like music and I used to have iTunes and [ __ ] I You listen to Rogan on there, do you?
>> Yeah, because you can download it to your phone and then you don't need to use data and stuff when you go out.
>> I thought he did it. I thought he came back to YouTube because as I said, I I see his shows just Do does he upload them the next day on YouTube or something? Is that right? He he I look I mean from what I I mean I don't know the details but I think he his agreement that he struck was that he could still upload to YouTube. I don't know how it works.
>> I mean some of his there it's undoubtedly true that some of his stuff is good. You know some some of his interviews are good. Like it's the guests more than him I think. But >> some some of them are good. They're worth >> Yeah. That's right. And if you if you know if you don't know the guest or you're not interested you just don't listen. Walk away.
>> And there's a lot of them. Yeah.
>> There's a lot of them.
>> Yeah. He did well. He did well. He did do well. It was quite funny though how he went he was bitching about Trump and then you know he was basically cuz I gather from what I saw he was basically saying it was a mistake that he had uh you know get vouch for Trump and he thinks Trump is some kind of monster and then uh recently he was in the Oval Office like as part of this like cheerleading team for some kind of psychedelic research project that they're launching for medical um >> Oh Yeah, the LSD or something on mushrooms or something, wasn't it?
>> Yeah. Yeah. They're looking into psychedelics in terms of medical research. So, >> I don't know how that project how all those guys operate. It it's it's just beyond me. Like you get like Musk goes on and says, >> "Oh, when the Epstein list comes out, Trump's going to be on there. You'll see some stuff there you hate."
>> And he was in them and he was in them.
>> But then a couple months later, he's good mates with Trump. I'm like thinking, well, >> so not just that. He was in the [ __ ] files himself.
>> Yeah, he was. You know that. You know that, right? There was an email from us saying, "Hey, any parties?"
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> It's just so [ __ ] whack.
>> I mean, we I'm not saying uh I I don't think Musk is a is a is a wrong. I don't think he is in that in that regard. He might be a wrong in other ways, but I don't think he's a pedo. Um but um you know, uh yeah, I just don't know. I I think with that Epstein, he was definitely one. I think some of the others possibly were, but I think a lot of it was there was just these strange weirdy men who happened to have a lot of money and he was like a fixer for these awkward men basically, you know, helping them get laid. And I don't think it was all pedophiles. I think some of it was like he was getting them adult women as well, you know.
>> I'm sure it Yeah, he was just >> It is It is really weird. And I think um I I've never Does anyone know how he got his money originally? cuz he was handed a [ __ ] ton of money, you know? He was like a math teacher for a while, wasn't he?
>> He did cap intro. He was Yeah. He went from I mean, I don't know the story, but he went from math teach then he did cap intro in a in a in it beers and stein or something.
>> Someone handed him a shitload of money.
Like he just he just suddenly became like a like a [ __ ] like a shitload. I'm talking like hundreds of millions, you know? It was like a ridiculous amount of money he just suddenly got.
>> It just seemed really weird. many. Yeah, there was something to do with Gizlane, whatever her name's pron pronunciation is.
>> I don't know. I [ __ ] it.
>> Her dad was literally in Mosad, you know. Um, Robert Maxwell. Yeah.
>> Wait, didn't they also say that her dad um he was he's also responsible for like the the textbooks or something uh that uh they use in the high schools in America?
>> Possibly. I don't know.
>> No. Uh Jane Maxwell. Yeah.
You mean the history they're taught the current, you know?
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, it's kind of crazy. Like, it sounds ridiculous on the face of it, but you know what? There probably is. Like, when you think about it, there is there's always like weird lobbying going on to have this included in a curriculum and this not included in the curriculum.
It's crazy what goes on, isn't it? You know?
>> Yeah.
>> Yep.
>> I mean, look at America where I I don't know. I think they wanted to take evolution out of the curriculum or maybe they don't teach it in some schools. I I don't know. But I mean that's [ __ ] crazy.
>> Yeah, that's more just the the Christian um younger younger creationists though I think.
>> All right. It's more of those sort of people who are push who are uh pushing for it.
>> Yeah, of course.
>> Yeah, there seems to be a real >> I mean I mean you have dogs. Have you ever questioned the theory of evolution?
Like I mean >> I mean how people are still questioning is beyond me. I mean, I I think it I don't I don't understand how they think it's it's it's it's not true.
>> Well, my my take on it is it it appears to be the best explanation that we have so far. And >> yeah, >> and the way the way I work is um you know what everything we know may turn out to be wrong. We may have everything completely wrong, but >> it's the facts. As the facts stand, >> as the facts stand, this is the this is the best we can come up with. And at the moment that's the best plausible.
>> Yep. So, let's go with that.
>> I mean, you can literally see evolution happening in like bacteria in laboratories when they they could they do experiment. They can show it happens, you know. It's crazy, >> you know. I don't know.
>> Yeah.
>> I will I will say the only thing they've got in their favor is there isn't enough uh fossil evidence to show like the whole spectrum of of the >> Yeah, but that's not necessary.
>> No, it's not necessary. I agree with you. But this is what these people want, you know.
>> I mean, this this is this will be Cougar's line of he details about this, but um yeah, >> know I mean I mean you know when you when you pitch >> when you pitch the the non-evolution guys versus the evolution guys. And the non-evolution guys don't aren't necessarily theists, but like that guy Max Doubt or whatever his name was was on here a while back.
>> Yeah. You know, um I just find that the evolution guy the guys who believe in evolution or not believe the guys who who uh who are on that side >> I think they have an agenda all the time.
>> Yeah. Well, yeah.
>> And their agenda isn't truth. Their agenda is some weird emotional [ __ ] >> I don't know.
>> I mean Aaron Ra I mean if you want to talk about getting data off getting info from YouTube, Aaron Ra is really good for that [ __ ] Really good.
>> Yeah. Yeah. He does a lot of videos on that. Robert Sopsky. Yeah, the Stanford University guy. He's really >> Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. I've heard of him.
>> I've listen I've listened to him for years. Like he he's fantastic. I love him. Yeah. Great.
>> Not all of his stuff. 50. Yeah. Yeah. I take your point. Yeah.
>> He's No, I mean, you've got to say he it is a great It's a great little channel.
The bit because it's free, you know, >> and it's good.
>> It is good in terms of the >> Robert stuff.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, >> it's better than Gary Moa, >> huh?
>> Some might say uh Fatima is back. Um >> yeah, >> hold on a second. Daylight life says he has people sleeping in the next room, so he's going to keep quiet. He said he'll join tomorrow. Would like to talk about the communication breakdown with Carl.
It's something he's watched for 22 years. Okay, brother. Well, we'd appreciate that. I I I have been back in touch with them. They've been messaging me on the uh Finding Lo's Facebook page.
So, I mean, I will let him I will read his article. I'll give um I'll read his article myself. You know, then I'll give >> Who's that crazy guru?
>> Yeah, >> that's I don't want to [ __ ] and moan about someone.
you know, if he if he has got legitimate problems, then tell us, you know, but uh if if if he hasn't, then don't be expected to be treated.
>> I'm not even sure if he does or not, DNW. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. You can't blame me for being confused about matters. I think I'm confused, too. That's the thing. I'm very confused >> because he came on here acting and then he said he wasn't this person, he was that person, >> you know, how am I meant to know what is going on?
>> You know, he called me like he on like on like uh X, you know, privately. He's He's like, >> "Wow."
>> Yeah. He's like, "Hello. Hello. Yes. I just want to talk to you, Fatima. How you doing?" Yeah. He's He's friendly.
Yeah. But like I still don't know what to make of the situation in general.
Like if he's actually like like that or he's just acting like it's it's I I don't know.
>> I think he's probably a nice guy, but um >> he is a nice guy. Yeah, I'll say that.
I'll say that much. No, he's very nice whenever he's like I guess isolated with just one person. But in this type of environment, he does tend to flip out a lot. And I'm not trying to talk bad about him, but like we've seen it, you know, already.
>> Yeah. I'm listening. I'll be right back.
>> All right.
>> All right.
>> Wait, I got to I got to head off. So, I'll see you guys another time. Nice talking to you.
>> Later, man.
>> Good night.
But even I mean my take on the whole thing is that even if he might he might it may be a genuine thing that he's got autism all that kind of stuff. But even if that's all true that doesn't mean everyone else has to accommodate that.
You know, it's like if maybe if I could put it, if I was to the analogy doesn't it doesn't map exactly, but if I was to go to an IT conference and start talking to people and saying, "Hey, you got to listen to my ideas about it, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah." And I don't know a [ __ ] about it.
But if then if there were professionals there and if and if I was getting pissed off because they ignored me or that or or discarded what I was saying, I couldn't be angry. I could Why should they move to accommodate my lack of fitting in with their space? So, yeah, >> like I said, the analogy doesn't map exactly, but that's kind of my take on it.
>> Like I would imagine um you know, that's all I'll say.
Let's talk about Jesus.
So, as Pristine said earlier, this is the the dead air part of the show.
>> Yeah.
>> He was powered by the dogs because of the dog he was. We don't see them making that kind of argument. doesn't apologetic, but it can reveal truths that are helpful to the case we're making. Let me go quick through some of the other things Alex raised though about Paul physical body.
>> Alex in the Jesus Lord of Bell's bub was that >> pristine. She watches multiple streams at once.
>> Oh, the old woman multitasking trick.
>> Guys, we could do a review of what happened earlier if you want.
>> Sure.
>> Very inception.
>> Sure, why not? Yeah, let's >> Inception. Yeah, >> let's do it. Let's do it.
>> So, we're literally watching the same stream on our stream. Wow, that is >> Let's do it.
>> If I can find it, that is. Yeah, I'll have a look for it. Yeah, >> I'm going to build a room that echoes.
>> Do you guys know that song? Probably not.
>> No, I couldn't tell you.
>> Peing Man, New Zealand band.
>> Ignore Ignore me. Ignore me while I just flick back to memory lane.
H.
Okay. Actually, let me just see if I'll be able to hear this because remember yesterday I couldn't hear it. Oh, >> I'm that little pest that feeds all the pigeons. I'm the one that looks after all the cats. I'm the one that looks after.
>> He came on. He came on like a [ __ ] I've got it. I'm pointed.
>> That was funny. That summed me up perfectly.
That summed me up perfectly. And I imagine myself being in that situation.
Well, you know what? It's come to my point in my life now because I've been here for 72 years, Julian. I'm pissed off at it.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah. I would probably say, um, yeah, go ahead. Go on then. Do it.
>> I'm not joking. Yeah. Well, you forget I'm 72 because I tell you something.
>> I remember that. Yeah.
Oh, this is about when he arrives here.
[ __ ] >> He came on like an absolute demon. Here we go.
>> Damn right that poor chickpea. Uh he says he says, "Imagine someone else summing you up perfectly rather than your own self. Lol." So he's basically saying he's summing you up.
>> No, you got to sum you up. Oh well, I'll sum myself up. I'm that little pest that feeds all the pigeons. I'm the one that looks after all the cats. I'm the one that looks after the foxes. I'm the animal rights activist. What have you done?
>> Yeah, you're the animal right >> He's here now.
>> You're the animal rights activist. But uh do you carry that ID in your wallet?
You know, so you can interact every day with people. As you say, you're not a wage slate.
>> Do you carry an ID in your pocket, ma'am?
>> Why do I carry an ID in my wallet for?
>> How do you get along in this world if you don't have an ID in your pocket, ma'am?
>> Cuz I've got lots and lots of money stuffed away in my bank account. That's how >> Oh, so you had to have an ID to get that bank account, right?
>> What?
>> So you were a wage slave to get that bank account, correct?
>> No. No. See what am I doing? I live without a bank account. I live without a job. I live without an ID. I live wearing this short mustache. I live wearing this short mustache.
Stop being that Hitler's willing executioner. That [ __ ] ass slave.
>> THAT'S WHAT I DO.
>> IN THE ARMED FORCES, El Pero, did you join the armed forces?
>> [ __ ] no. I wasn't delusional.
Oh, I'm I'm I'm criticized. Have you I'm criticized defending this country against other countries for joining the Navy and doing my bit. I'm criticized for that. All right. Have you worked for any law?
>> And you should be. You're a woman. Do women belong in the military, guys? No.
They're supposed to be protected.
They're not the ones that are out there in the world protected. They're supposed darling. Darling, darling, darling, don't don't get don't get angry. He's he he's sharing his opinion now. You have greatly annoyed him. I think it's a it's an emotional response. He is upset because he feel What is it about her that upsets you?
>> Oh, no. This this is not upset. This is not emotional. This is >> This is me pointing out contradiction.
She sits up here and talks about >> She sits up here and talks about people being wage slaves. Um, she's 70ome years old, was a wage slave until she retired, and now she claims that she does more for animals than I have ever done. This is delusion, folks. She carried that ID in her wallet to get that Navy job, to get that bank account, to get the money that she has, and now she's up here professing that she's not a slave.
>> Thank you for that. El Pero, El Pero, El Pero, El Pero, El Pero, El Pero. Um, you said she's wasted her life.
>> LIVING OFF OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK, YOU HORRIBLE LITTLE MAN. Who's been living off the work of others? You, El Pero. At least I haven't done that.
>> Oh, I've been living off the work of other people. Uh, I don't think so.
>> You're way you you are a social security parasite, aren't you?
>> Oh, I am. I am. I don't get >> You don't work. You don't work. So, where'd you get your money from?
>> I don't need, buddy. I use I use barter and exchange the best I can and yes there are around there are things in this world that I have to use money for.
So in that barter exchange sometimes I barter in exchange for money. Sometimes I get donations. Sometimes I go to THE FOOD BANK. SOMETIMES I do things with humility.
>> Disgusting. You are disgusting. Off to the food bank.
>> Rumaging through the bloody bins.
Lovely. And you criticize me. You criticize me and you rubbish through bins.
>> No, I don't rumage through bins. I said once in a while I might go to the food bank. And in fact, it's been years since I've been to the food bank.
>> Cuz normally I go do my cuz normally I go do my trapping, my fishing, and my >> Do you want to come on?
>> Oh my god. Oh my god. He's one of Oh, DMW. He's one of them that goes out trapping animals. DNW, we have to have this on the show. He's an >> No, Chippy. Chip, release the hounds.
Please release the hounds. Chickpea >> goes on trapping animals.
>> So So in the meantime, So in the meantime, >> Chickpea, Chickpea, Chickpe, put him in his place.
>> So in the meantime, my companion has tunnel or dementia. He can't do anything but depend upon another being. So I'm here for her as well.
>> Walking, talking, living graveyard. You are a nasty little meat eatating [ __ ] who traps animals. and you criticize me and you're not very good-looking.
>> Anyway, it's actually longer than I thought. But anyway, the point is Grazy comes on as well uh and kicks off. It really went it really went to [ __ ] after that. It really it did. It did, didn't it, guys? It really went that was that was light compared to what happened after that.
>> But El Pero says, >> "You [ __ ] love it."
>> Pero says it. Ara says he never criticized her, though he agrees she should not have been in the military. I mean, Chip P, you might not like this, darling, but I think he's probably right. The battlefield is no place for a woman.
>> I worked in an office.
>> You were on a ship, you for a while.
>> Yeah, in an office.
>> Okay. Okay.
>> And I only worked >> No, I'm Look, I'm not saying I'm not saying I don't thank I'm not saying I don't thank you for your service. You don't have to thank me, but he's done nothing at all telling me I'm useless.
So, what's he done? Nothing.
At the end of the day, you know, I've always been a I I was a taxpayer and I spent time in the military. So, who the hell is he to tell me I'm useless?
>> Uh Ry Pug's his granddad used to say, "When one door closes, another one slams in your face." always the eternal optimist, particularly when he had his whiskey. There you go. Um says she was trying to virtue signal for validation and using ad hom name calling that >> that you all call bullying. Lol. Okay.
Anyway, look guys, I don't want to start another war. So, we'll leave that at that.
>> Unless he did. He started it. He did.
Well, I think you you you you had a good um you defended yourself. You gave a good account of yourself, chickpea.
>> Yeah. Bloody bloody have to.
Horrible little man.
I find some very horrible little men about. There's nothing to look at. I mean, it amazes me he actually shows his face on on the internet. I mean if I you know really >> no now no he is a he is he is a participant he's welcome to come back >> yeah but thing is grumps okay now men like I've noticed when women come on screen they they look really pretty but he I've noticed that men make no effort they >> that's a matter of opinion madam >> DNW they I've noticed that men make no effort at all even know celebrities make an effort when they come to show their face to the world and I think some of these men coming here should make a bit of an effort.
>> Oh, you're saying they should groom themselves a bit more, right?
>> Yes. Yes. Just a bit.
>> What was wrong with his Hitler mustache?
>> Especially you like that sort of thing.
>> Yeah, he did look like him if he had long hair.
>> No, no, he literally said he had a Hitler mustache.
He fashioned he fashioned his um his um mustache like that for I don't know decades so that he could uh make some kind of point. Uh as far as I'm aware >> he's trying to make I can't imagine.
>> Yeah, he's back now. This is him anyway.
He's back on the show.
>> Who's that?
>> Who's that on the >> It's El Pero.
>> I know. But like is that him when he was >> Oh, I see what he's doing here. You got you got to give it to him here. He's trying to be funny. He's putting forward what he thinks is a is is a Chad so he can talk to Chickp.
>> That is quite funny. You've got to hand it to him.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Alro, props to you for that is quite funny, Chippy. You got to hand it to him, Chippy.
>> You know, >> he scrubs up quite well, doesn't he?
>> That's not him. That's someone else.
>> I actually thought that was Sylvester Salone for a moment.
>> Yeah, I thought that was like him, too.
Like Sylvester Salone. Yeah. kind of looks like someone else. I know. Yeah. H >> No, that's me.
>> Wow.
>> That was you back in the day, was it?
>> He says he says >> 23 years old.
>> He says >> that was him when he was 23 years old.
Chick be.
>> Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, he says, "Okay, I could put a picture up and say that was me when I was 17." I could do that.
>> No, I can see it's him. I can see it's him. I can see the the nose and the eyes and the Yeah, I can see it.
No Hitler mustache though.
>> No. No. Yeah.
>> When When did the Hitler mustache come about?
>> Yeah.
>> That's That was three years ago.
>> Oh, recent. Nice.
>> Why on earth would anybody with all their faculties grow a Hitler mustache?
>> The pencil stash. Yes. Well, when you go to city council meetings and they think they're the boss, they have to remember they work for somebody and they well recognize when they work for they become Hitler's willing executioners. It's what I was speaking about earlier when you asked that ultimate question where you're before a firing squad getting ready to be executed. What are you gonna say? I'm going to remind them that you are nothing more than Hitler's willing executioners. [ __ ] ass slaves doing something somebody else told you to do.
Professing that you know them and haven't even never met them.
>> I love how the how with these kind of stories and questions come up, we're always putting oursel in the role of the hero >> saying the most amazing thing.
>> Yeah. And I I suggest everybody check out Philip Zambardo too. He's the uh professor aminus of Stanford University that did the Stanford University prison project. He also turned around >> [ __ ] which is nonsense. It's been debunked.
>> No, he turned around. The effect of it is that he turned around and he started what's known today as the heroic imagination project. And what it's doing is it's instilling in our youth the idea that they need to be the hero.
not to look for the hero in someone else, but to be the hero themselves.
>> So, he's the Stanford version of Jordan Peterson.
>> You can say that if you want, but I urge again, don't believe me. Don't believe the neighbor. Don't believe the government for crying out loud. Don't believe your mother. Do your research.
So, you know, we're all big boys and girls now. And we can we can take upon that responsibility.
>> Oh dear. Oh, [ __ ] dear. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
>> You can call it a TED talk. You can call it a YouTube screamer. Whatever you want. The reason of logic still exists.
Do you not agree?
>> Whichever you want.
>> Agree with what?
>> It's it's our duty to instill the logic and reason through education instead of handing that responsibility off to somebody else. You know, >> I don't I don't think I have any duties to anybody unless I take them on myself.
>> Well, that's what I'm talking about.
>> Take them on.
>> That's what I'm talking about. So, when you take >> no way of playing with your willie, you silly little man.
>> When you when you take upon the responsibility of educating yourself instead of displacing it and your delusion and blaming somebody else, which is what I see 99% of the people doing.
So, you're like the 1% that's super special, right?
>> Yeah.
>> No, I'm not saying I'm super special.
I'm saying my observation and I've seen it all my life. This is why I am This is why I am by myself as a lone wolf. I take care of my companion. My family has disowned me. I have very few friends, but they're very close and very wise.
>> I don't think you're the only uh blown wolf I've ever met in my life. And you're not the only lone wolf here.
>> I'm not saying I am.
>> Look, look, I I I I wish you all the best with it, um, El Pera. I mean, I don't think you're actually a bad guy.
You you you you think you're doing something right and proper.
>> Never say you're a bad guy.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
So did Hitler.
Says it all, doesn't it?
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. And but again, like I said earlier, I don't take offense on your views. So, while they may be pertinent to you, if they seem offensive to most, they're not going to really offend me at all >> because I understand my own views are pertinent to myself and your views are pertinent to yourself. I don't have I don't have to make those attachments.
Therefore, I don't have to go through the detachment.
>> What are you witchering about?
>> You guys are the ones that get attached to everything. You're the one that's attached to your cats. And and like I said, >> you're not allowed to love an animal.
>> And 99% of you have an ID in your pocket saying that you are not allowed to do anything unless you present that thing to somebody else for somebody that you like. You never had that before in your life.
>> You what? ID in my pocket.
>> What's he talking about? ID for what?
For >> talking stupid little man. I hate to say he's he's trying to he's he's trying to This all started because you you said you call people wage slaves. He I think I think this is where this is all coming from. So basically he's >> I did I've never used that term before.
>> Did he did he uh take offense to being >> chickpea chickpe darling darling you did you literally used it like once or twice. I've heard you say it.
>> Not this evening.
>> He he he nodded. No no no no no not this evening in previous shows. In previous shows.
>> So he's obviously held that against you since then. He's held that against you since then.
>> And what's happening is what's happening is he took offense of that because you he he's he's viewing it. He's he's >> he he sees it that you made a general blanket statement and you unfairly tred him with that brush when when in actual fact when actual fact he he isn't a wage slave. He kind of lives this strange >> I've never met him before. Yeah, he spent >> I know. I know. But I'm I'm wondering why he why he took offense.
>> Bingo.
>> Go ahead. Explain.
>> Let's [ __ ] all that you what you're paying your taxes for.
>> She was talking about my comments in the chat and named me specifically. So I feel confident.
>> I didn't say >> and just showing contradiction.
>> That's all I contradiction.
>> What contradiction?
>> I guarantee you. I guarantee you the [ __ ] you were.
>> You have an you currently carry an ID in your pocket to continue on with the banking and everything that you're dependent upon. I no longer do that. I haven't done that for 20 years.
>> SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ONE can live.
>> I still of course you trap animals. I forgot. Of course you're one of those animal murderers.
>> Exactly.
>> Bag.
>> You [ __ ] [ __ ] murdering [ __ ] bag.
I hate people like you.
>> Exactly.
>> Pero. It's nothing to gloat about.
You've just made your life extremely difficult. Well done, sir.
>> Oh, I made my my life extremely difficult by acting on my nature and doing what in nature men do automatically.
>> Oh, wow.
>> How do you have an internet connection without ID?
Yeah.
You don't understand how this works either, do you? So, how do you pay for your internet connection?
>> Yeah. How do you pay for your internet and like and like who is Yeah, exactly.
And don't you need I would imagine you still are like relying on some type of medication, right? You have insurance, right? You have to see you have to show the insurance card, right?
>> I I would say if you want my advice here, answer that question from the earth dog, but also let this sink in, brother. I think you are placing yourself in severe severe state of jeopardy and for your own well-being get a passport, get some ID so that you can secure your future. I know I know we are probably walking into a dystopian nightmare. Uh but it's it look you may as well look after yourself. We're all in the same boat. Your life at the moment is I would say unnecessarily hard.
Whatever happens in the future, you're not going to be able to defeat it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You are not You are not the Messiah.
>> Your life is is is much harder than it needs to be at the moment. And for God's sake, think about your future.
>> I have a question for you.
>> I projection because I never said I was the Messiah, first of all. Second of all, again, I I am not dependent upon everybody else's necessities. See, you guys are the ones that think these comforts can be >> Explain how you have an internet connection without ID.
>> Who's giving you the the online the online stuff? El Pedro, >> he probably steals as well. He's probably a thief.
>> That's how you get your money.
>> By the way, are you are you are you Hispanic? Uh, El Pedro, are you Hispanic?
>> Oh, no. I'm German.
>> Oh, okay. Okay.
>> Then, >> so most people don't understand that this is all by agreement. Do we all do?
We all do.
>> Hang on. Hang on. I've asked you a specific question. How do you have an internet connection without being without having an ID?
>> Let's answer that.
>> We all agree that everything is done.
>> So, you can't answer it. So, you just you just walk in without nothing.
>> There's a prerequisite. We all agree that you must have consent to have an agreement. Correct.
>> Okay. How do you have an internet connection without ID?
>> So, we agree on that. You must have consent. Correct.
How do you have an internet connection without ID?
>> So, how does he pay for it? That's another thing. Without a bank account, >> in order to have an agreement, in order to have a contract, you must have >> you must have consent. Correct.
>> You can always tell a bullshitter when they just refuse to answer these these questions >> directly. Yeah, they want >> How do you pay for your internet connection without money?
>> No, just be honest. Like, it's it's not even it shouldn't be that harsh of a question. Crazy magic being you guys want a simple answer to something you think is a simple question.
>> It is a simple question. It is.
>> I I think I can answer for him. He he has an a bank account from years ago that he still uses.
>> Oh, you don't.
>> Nope.
>> You're lying then. You have to be lying.
>> No. Well, if you guys don't understand, if you guys don't understand equity, and equity means if you if you are seeking equity, you must first come with clean hands. This merely, >> what does that have to do with the conversation?
>> This merely means nothing but honesty.
So, when you deal with these contracts, you come with the honesty of what's in that.
>> Dude, how do you have an internet connection without ID?
>> This is why you're never going to have nosis on this channel.
Hey, he cuffed out. He coughed out. He coughed out. It was a simple question.
How who the hell is giving you online access with without any form of identification? That's that should be straightforward. Like I can answer that easily.
>> I don't understand how he pays for it.
How?
>> Yeah. Come on.
Like it's weird that he calls himself that that means uh the dog in Spanish.
It's so weird.
>> Gosh, get some wanky men on here. I'm sorry you have to say that.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Oh, thank you.
>> I've got to say, DMW, those those AI little what do you call them? Ads you've got there are really cool. I like them.
>> Yeah, >> thank you for that.
>> Um, so guys, we will go to X. We will go to X. I'll play that now.
Oh, I have one question.
>> We'll continue on x.com.
>> Sorry.
>> Check out theis x space where you can listen to further finding of nosis after the show. See you there. Finding nosis now on xaces at x.com.
>> Sorry.
>> No, no worries. That That's really good.
I like that. Um, Chickpe, did you see I linked you to a to something and you you've seen that?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, good. I'll delete I just wanted to know so I can delete that post. That's all.
>> Yeah, I sent you an email back saying thank you.
>> You sent me an email.
>> Yeah, I sent it to you.
>> I've obviously sent to the wrong stupid place. Hold on.
>> I don't know. I have I have half a dozen of the buggers. Anyway, >> tell you I sent it to >> Don't say it.
>> Don't say it.
>> Sorry. Okay, >> I I'll check. I think I know the one.
You might have seen it. Okay. Cheers.
>> Okay. Well, listen. Um, we will go to X then in uh in a short while, but I suppose we can give our >> closing remarks here.
>> Closing remarks.
>> If anybody wants to say anything on on the show here tonight, uh, >> how did it make you feel? Um, and any any remarks you want to make, uh, now is your moment. You're not going to be executed, but it is the end of the show.
>> Uhhuh.
>> Yeah. Oh, sorry. I should should call out. Sorry. Very well behaved, aren't you? We'll go to uh Fatima first.
>> Well, thank you once again, DNW, and thank you all for uh watching this very at first very explosive stream. I definitely was enjoying this one. Yes.
Uh, it's always a pleasure to just hear uh, you know, older adults yell at each other. You know, it definitely reminds me of Home Sweet Home. So, yeah. Thank you so much, DNW. I really do appreciate you and and and love you and same goes for all of you as well. See you guys inside either. Yeah, see you guys. Oh, thank you. See you guys either in next show or in the the X space. Yeah, because I'll probably >> We'll be on X now shortly. Uh I will share it again in the in the uh in the live chat for anybody who wants to hop over there cuz we are going there now just so you know. Uh we'll go to Christine next. Do you want to give your closing remarks, darling?
>> Put you on here for a minute you naughty little girl.
Oops.
>> Christine.
Oh, she's away. She's away. Okay. Uh Yf Dogs, do you want to give your closing remarks?
>> No. All good, mate. All good fun.
>> Okay, good.
>> Like I say, I I like you. I like those little AI snippets. They're quite funny.
Right. Well played.
>> Yeah. And uh Chickpea, >> do you want to give your Close your remarks, darling. Okay, I'll make that big.
>> Look at her sleeping. Naughty little.
>> I know. She's adorable, isn't she?
>> Imagine being criticized for loving cats.
>> Um lovely evening. Thank you, Grumps.
>> Good. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Uh, I will actually, guys, I will legitimately uh read out uh an article belonging to Carl at some point over the next few shows. Um, I will read it out and I'll give uh I'll give it due consideration.
I think that's only fair. I don't want him to feel like he was getting picked on or whatever. I mean, if he literally has got some kind of struggle going on, then yeah, I suppose it's the least I could do. I will do that. Um, I will read one of his articles at some point in the near future. Uh, maybe the one he read tonight would be the best one to read. Uh, Pamela, good to have you here, darling. Thank you for that. Nibbles, are you puking? Dirty low life, good night, brother. Well done yesterday. El Pero, you know, good man for coming on here and saying what you got to say. Uh, are you puking fatty? Um, lovely to have you, darling. and all the rest of you. I could scroll up and find you. Sorry if I haven't mentioned you, but thank you to all of you. So, we will end the show there now and we'll hop over to X. Hope to see some of you there. Take care everybody. Bye-bye.
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