Halloween Kills Had a Brilliant Idea… and Ruined It

[00:00:00]Whenever people mention Halloween Kills, one line usually comes to mind, and it's not for the right reasons.

[00:00:07]>> EVIL DIES TONIGHT.

[00:00:08]>> EVIL DIES TONIGHT.

[00:00:13][music] >> Hi guys, my name is Barry and welcome back to the channel. I want to touch on an issue that people have with Halloween Kills and I share that issue first and foremost. the the line evil dies tonight. It was okay for one line, for one person to say it, and for them to move on. But they didn't do that. They milked it for all it's worth. And they said it time and time again until the whole town was chanting, "Evil dies tonight."

[00:00:46]So because of that, that made that scene pretty bad to watch. The dialogue in that scene was pretty horrendous.

[00:00:53]Overall, I liked the movie. Halloween Kills is a really good film, but it was just that one moment that I didn't like in the movie that brought it way down for me. Now, I feel like the purpose of that moment, the purpose of that scene was actually really strong. And that's what I want to explain today. I just think the execution of what they tried to do was pretty bad. So, what I think they were trying to do in this scene was create this persona of the town creating the monster. Almost like they're saying the town created the original Michael Myers. The town created Michael Myers in 1978. And now that he's almost gone or they think he's gone, they want to create this new boogeyman. They obviously went full throttle and Halloween ends with this idea. But the beginning of that idea took place at the hospital and Halloween kills. By doing this, they created this mob mentality.

[00:01:47]As soon as one person says something and another person agrees, there there's more people that come along with that idea that evil dies tonight.

[00:01:55]>> Evil dies tonight.

[00:01:58]>> And it's not just through mob mentality.

[00:02:00]It's through fear as well. Because it's the fear of the unknown. Is Michael Myers back? Is he here? Is he coming after us? If someone points out that's Michael Myers, you're automatically, not everyone, but somebody's automatically going to say, "Yeah, that's Michael Myers." And then the allstar saying, "Yeah, that is Michael Myers. I recognize him." Even though they don't recognize him, that's the mob mentality.

[00:02:22]So, they chase after the one person that they think could be Michael Myers. Even though the man is frightened, he's running away. He's scared for his life.

[00:02:31]Even though some people are saying that's not Michael, if the majority says it is, then the majority rules. So, they all go after this innocent person. Well, he's not innocent, of course, because he was in the mental home to begin with, but he was innocent in the sense that it's not Michael Myers, but they all go after him anyway.

[00:02:51]>> I think that scene could have played out better if only one or two people said, "Evil dies tonight." Preferably one person, because it is a line at the end of the day, a line that you would see within a movie, not a line that people in a movie would say time and time again. It's not something that fits in a movie like Halloween Kills.

[00:03:08]>> No, no, no, no, NO. SHERIFF, WE WILL NOT CALM DOWN. WE HAVE WATCHED your department fail.

[00:03:11]>> Apart from repeating it time and time again, I feel like the crowd changed too dramatically as well. One moment they were all sad and upset. The next moment they were a bit angry, then all of a sudden they were all crazy and going after this one person without even thinking about it, chasing them down, knocking people over, trampling over people. I think it just went from one extreme to another, just too fast. The worst part of this was Tommy became too simplistic too fast as well. A character that was getting built up to be a really important character. And I really liked Anthony Michael Hall as Tommy Doyle up until this point. But then when he joined in with them and started saying Evil Dies Tonight as well, I'm like, what are you doing Tommy? Let these people do what they're doing. Don't you lower yourself to their level. But he did. Not only did he lower themsel himself to their level, he rose above their level of ridiculousness because he led the charge not knowing who this person was.

[00:04:09]>> Now he's turning us into monsters.

[00:04:11]>> I know that the town was in fear. I know that Tommy was in fear. The whole town, the whole community shared that fear. So that fear becomes that mob mentality.

[00:04:20]And I don't I'm not saying don't give us the mob. Don't give us the mob mentality. Just give us it in a more realistic way. I know it's a fictional horror movie franchise at the end of the day, but they're trying to pitch this movie franchise now at this point as a realistic horror franchise. Look at Jim Lee Curtis talking about trauma every 5 minutes. Not just in the movie, but outside the movie as well. When you want to do that, try and make it realistic.

[00:04:46]And I do believe that they were trying their best to give us something deep here. And Halloween Kills, believe it or not, is the first movie in this entire franchise. They gave us something with a bit of nuance in it. Something that goes a little bit deeper than just the fake trauma and the paint by numbers. Michael Myers chasing people, killing them, and going after the next set of people.

[00:05:10]That's all that happened up until that point. Halloween 2018 introduced us to the trauma or reintroduced us to the trauma because we already dealt with that before, especially in H2O. But Kills was the one that gave us a nuance.

[00:05:24]It gave us that it opened the door to something that could have been deeper.

[00:05:29]And although it was deeper, it the execution of that deepness was a bit embarrassing.

[00:05:36]>> Evil dies tonight. I think after the mob caught up with Tivoli and Karen standing at the window ledge, that was a powerful moment. I think that from that moment on, I thought, "Wow, that was a really good scene." It was just what happened before that and the dialogue before that that's what made it bad. But if they managed to capture what they did in that scene previously, then I think the movie would be a lot better. It's only that buildup to to Volley jumping off that was bad. But from the moment you saw Tvoli's eyes, you saw Karen's eyes and him jumping off, it was a really powerful moment.

[00:06:14][music] I think to make that better is capture that moment of Tavi jumping off being the buildup to that scene itself. Maybe have one or two people say, "That's Michael Myers. That's Michael. Go and get him." Make it like that, but don't give us the whole Evil Dies tonight. I think if you just remove evil dice tonight, you automatically make that seem better, which in turn makes Halloween Kills better.

[00:06:42]At the end of the day, they tried to make it look as if Michael Myers wasn't the only issue with Hardenfield. It was the mob mentality. It was the idea that evil can spread through people. They're maybe saying Michael Myers wasn't originally an evil person, but someone put that evil in him. Not supernaturally, but metaphorically. And that's exactly what they tried to tell us in Halloween Kills. So, idea great, but the execution not so great.

[00:07:10]>> We fight. We always fight.

[00:07:12]>> So, what are your thoughts on the mob mentality scene, guys? Do you think Evil Dies tonight was a little bit too much?

[00:07:18]And if you didn't like Halloween Kills, was that one of the reasons? And if you didn't like that one specific scene, what would you do to change that to make Halloween Kills a better movie? As always, leave your thoughts and opinions down below. Let me know what you think, and I'll talk to YOU SOON.

[00:07:33]>> EVIL DIES TONIGHT.

[00:07:35]>> EVIL DIES TONIGHT.

[00:07:36]>> ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, >> calm down.

[00:07:39]>> I'll be right back.

[00:07:41]>> What are you waiting for? Huh?

[00:07:44]>> I'm coming to get you, Barbara. Ever playing in the back.

[00:07:52][screaming] Someone's in the back.

[00:07:56]>> TELL ME WHERE YOU ARE, JOHN. WOLF pants gone now.