"You Went 120 MPH!": Judge Scolds 21-Year-Old Who Smoked Pot Before Court

Añadido: 2026-06-04

[00:00:01]Mr. Cleese.

[00:00:03]Ms. Johnson.

[00:00:05]>> Thank you, Your Honor. We are here in the matter of the State of Ohio vs. Jeremy Williams, case number 26 CR000369.

[00:00:15]The defendant is present with his attorney, Ms. Novotney. We're set today for an information. The state filed a one-count information, failure to comply with an order or signal of a police officer, a felony of the fourth degree.

[00:00:27]And it's the state's understanding that the defendant will plead guilty to that today.

[00:00:32]>> All right.

[00:00:34]Ms. Novotney.

[00:00:35]>> Yes, Your Honor, that is correct.

[00:00:37]Ultimately, [clears throat] before coming into court today, Mr. Williams and I went over the waiver of indictment as well as the written plea of guilty forms.

[00:00:44]He is aware of what this proceeding will entail and would like to enter a plea of guilty to the charge.

[00:00:50]>> All right, thank you. Mr. Williams, how old are you?

[00:00:53]>> 21.

[00:00:54]>> How far did you go through school?

[00:00:56]>> All the way until graduation.

[00:00:58]>> Are you a US citizen?

[00:01:00]>> Yes.

[00:01:00]>> Are you able to read, write, and understand the English language?

[00:01:03]>> Yes.

[00:01:04]>> Prior to coming to court, have you taken any drugs or alcohol or any prescription medication in the last 48 hours?

[00:01:09]>> Yes.

[00:01:10]>> What have you taken?

[00:01:12]>> Marijuana.

[00:01:13]>> And when did you do that?

[00:01:15]>> Yesterday.

[00:01:17]>> Why did you do that?

[00:01:19]>> I just just doing it.

[00:01:21]>> Huh?

[00:01:22]>> Just doing it.

[00:01:23]>> Got to stop doing it.

[00:01:24]>> Okay.

[00:01:28]>> Does it affect your ability to understand what's going on here today?

[00:01:31]>> No, sir.

[00:01:36]>> Did you get a copy of the information filed in this case?

[00:01:39]>> Yes.

[00:01:41]>> Any questions about it?

[00:01:42]>> No.

[00:01:43]>> You understand you have a right to have your case presented to the grand jury for them to decide whether or not to indict you?

[00:01:49]>> Yeah.

[00:01:49]>> Did you discuss that right with your attorney?

[00:01:51]>> Yes.

[00:01:52]>> And are you going to waive that right?

[00:01:53]>> Yes.

[00:01:56]>> [clears throat] >> See the sign right there?

[00:02:01]Thank you.

[00:02:08]>> Your Honor, in open court, myself and my client signed the waiver of indictment and passed it to the prosecutor and witnessed the same.

[00:02:17]>> Your Honor, I also witnessed the defendant sign the waiver of indictment.

[00:02:20]I have signed it and with your permission we'll return it to the bench.

[00:02:27]>> I now accept the waiver of indictment.

[00:02:29]Now, before I accept your guilty plea, I need to determine that you know and understand the constitutional rights you'll be waiving, the consequences of your guilty plea, and the maximum penalty I could give you, and I need to be satisfied that your guilty plea is being made freely, knowingly, and voluntarily.

[00:02:45]I'm going to ask [clears throat] you some questions. If you don't understand the question, stop me. If you want to talk to Ms. Navani some more, let me know, and I'll give you more time. Do you understand that?

[00:02:53]>> Okay.

[00:02:54]>> You have a constitutional right to have a trial either to me or to a jury of 12 Lake County citizens. Do you understand that right?

[00:03:01]>> Yes.

[00:03:01]>> Are you waiving that right?

[00:03:03]>> Yes.

[00:03:03]>> If you go to a jury trial, all 12 members must agree to a guilty verdict before you can be found guilty. Do you understand that right?

[00:03:10]>> Yes.

[00:03:10]>> Are you waiving that right?

[00:03:11]>> Yes.

[00:03:13]>> If [clears throat] you go to trial, the prosecutor will call witnesses to testify against you. Do you understand the prosecutor must prove you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt at a trial?

[00:03:21]>> Yes.

[00:03:22]>> After the witnesses are done testifying for the prosecutor, you have the constitutional right to have your lawyer cross-examine those witnesses. Do you understand that right?

[00:03:30]>> Yes.

[00:03:31]>> Are you waiving that right?

[00:03:32]>> Yes.

[00:03:32]>> [cough and clears throat] >> If you go to trial, you have the right to have witnesses come and testify for you. Do you understand that right?

[00:03:38]>> Yes.

[00:03:38]>> Are you waiving that right?

[00:03:40]>> Yes.

[00:03:40]>> If those witnesses refuse to come to court, I'll issue an order called a subpoena to make them testify. Do you understand that right?

[00:03:46]>> Yes.

[00:03:46]>> Are you waiving that right?

[00:03:48]>> Yes.

[00:03:49]>> You have the right to testify at trial if you want to. Do you understand that, right?

[00:03:52]>> Yes.

[00:03:53]>> Are you waiving that right?

[00:03:54]>> Yes.

[00:03:55]>> You have the constitutional right to not testify at trial if you do not want to.

[00:03:58]Do you understand that right?

[00:04:00]>> Yes.

[00:04:00]>> Are you waiving that right?

[00:04:01]>> Yes.

[00:04:02]>> If you decide not to testify at trial, nobody is permitted to comment on that decision. Do you understand that?

[00:04:08]>> Yes.

[00:04:09]>> If you go to trial and you're found guilty, you have the right to appeal the guilty finding. Do you understand that right?

[00:04:14]>> Yes.

[00:04:14]>> Are you waiving that right?

[00:04:15]>> Yes.

[00:04:16]>> If you file an appeal, you have the constitutional right to have a lawyer represent you in the appeal. Do you understand that right?

[00:04:21]>> Yes.

[00:04:21]>> Are you waiving that right?

[00:04:23]>> Yes.

[00:04:24]>> If you could not afford to hire a lawyer, one would be provided at no cost to you. Do you understand that?

[00:04:28]>> Yes.

[00:04:29]>> If you file an appeal, you're entitled to have a transcript of all the hearings in this case. Do you understand that right?

[00:04:34]>> Yes.

[00:04:35]>> Are you waiving that right?

[00:04:36]>> Yes.

[00:04:36]>> If you could not afford to copy those transcripts, they'd be given to you at no cost. Do you understand that?

[00:04:41]>> Yes.

[00:04:42]>> If you plead guilty today, you will not have the right to appeal the guilty finding. Do you understand that?

[00:04:47]>> Yes.

[00:04:47]>> Do you have any questions about any of these rights?

[00:04:50]>> No.

[00:04:50]>> Do you still want to plead guilty to this charge?

[00:04:54]>> Yes.

[00:04:55]>> Do you understand by pleading guilty you're fully admitting your guilt to the charge?

[00:04:59]>> Yes.

[00:05:00]>> You understand by pleading guilty to this felony that you're voluntarily giving up your freedom for whatever period of time I could sentence you to prison, to jail, or to community control.

[00:05:08]>> Yes.

[00:05:11]>> This charge of fail to comply is a felony of the fourth degree. It carries an 18-month maximum prison sentence and a $5,000 maximum fine. Do you understand that?

[00:05:21]>> Yes.

[00:05:24]>> Do you understand that this uh guilty plea will will result in a driver's license suspension of at least 3 years up to your lifetime.

[00:05:32]>> Yes.

[00:05:34]>> Do you understand that if a prison term is imposed in this case, you might have to serve a period of post-release control?

[00:05:41]>> Yes.

[00:05:43]>> Is it a 2-year discretionary?

[00:05:45]Or is it a 1 to 3?

[00:05:47]>> Up to your choice.

[00:05:49]>> You might have to serve a period of post-release control for up to 2 years under the direction of the parole authority.

[00:05:54]>> Yes.

[00:05:55]>> If you are placed on post-release control and violate any conditions, the parole authority could send you back to prison for up to 9 months. Do you understand that?

[00:06:04]>> Yes.

[00:06:04]>> If that violation of post-release control is a new felony, you could get an additional consecutive prison sentence for the violation. Do you understand that?

[00:06:12]>> Yes.

[00:06:12]>> That would occur the maximum prison sentence for that violation would be the greater of 12 months or the time left under post-release control. Do you understand that?

[00:06:20]>> Yes.

[00:06:21]>> Do you understand that if a prison term is imposed, you are eligible for judicial release?

[00:06:27]>> Yes.

[00:06:27]>> I could place you on community control for up to 5 years, but if you violate any conditions, I could send you to prison for 18 months. Do you understand that?

[00:06:36]>> Yes.

[00:06:36]>> Has anybody promised you that I would be lenient on you just because you're pleading guilty today?

[00:06:41]>> No.

[00:06:41]>> Has anybody promised you what I would sentence you to in this case?

[00:06:45]>> No.

[00:06:45]>> Do you understand I don't have to follow the sentencing recommendation of either the prosecutor or your lawyer?

[00:06:50]>> No.

[00:06:51]>> Yes?

[00:06:52]>> Yes.

[00:06:52]>> Have you had enough time to talk to Ms. Novotney before pleading guilty today?

[00:06:56]>> Yeah.

[00:06:57]>> Has she discussed everything about your case and answered all of your questions?

[00:07:00]>> Yes.

[00:07:01]>> Are you satisfied with the advice she has given you?

[00:07:03]>> Yes.

[00:07:04]>> Have you been threatened or coerced in any way to plead guilty today?

[00:07:08]>> Yes.

[00:07:10]>> Have you been threatened or coerced?

[00:07:12]>> Oh, no, my foot.

[00:07:14]>> Are you freely, knowingly, and voluntarily entering your guilty plea?

[00:07:19]>> Yes.

[00:07:20]>> Do you have any questions at this point?

[00:07:22]>> No.

[00:07:23]>> All right. Ms. Johnson, if the case went to trial, what would the evidence show?

[00:07:28]>> Your Honor, had this matter proceeded to trial, the state would have shown that on or about the 11th day of March in Lake County, Ohio, the defendant did operate a vehicle so as to willfully elude and flee Willoughby Hills police officers after receiving both visible and audible signals to stop the vehicle.

[00:07:43]The pursuit lasted approximately 6 miles beginning on Interstate Route 90 and continuing on to Interstate Route 271 reaching speeds of up to approximately 120 miles an hour. The pursuit ended when the defendant voluntarily pulled the vehicle over.

[00:08:00]Thank you.

[00:08:01]>> Thank you.

[00:08:02]Ms. Novotny, anything to add to those facts?

[00:08:05]>> Just your honor, once he was voluntarily pulled over he was cooperative with the officers.

[00:08:12]>> All right, Mr. Williams, did you hear what Ms. Johnson said that the facts would show if the case went to a trial?

[00:08:19]>> Yes.

[00:08:19]>> Are those facts true?

[00:08:21]>> Yes.

[00:08:22]>> What is your plea to failure to comply with the order or signal of a police officer, a felony four?

[00:08:27]>> Guilty.

[00:08:27]>> Ms. Novotny?

[00:08:42]>> Right my seat.

[00:08:49]Signed it.

[00:08:54]Today's 5/27/26.

[00:08:59]Thank you.

[00:09:09]Your honor, in open court myself and my client signed the waiver or written plea of guilty form and I passed it to prosecutor witnesses sign it.

[00:09:18]>> I also witnessed the defendant sign the written plea of guilty. I have also signed it and with your permission I'll return it to the bench.

[00:09:34]>> Mr. Williams, is this your signature on the written plea of guilty?

[00:09:38]>> Yes.

[00:09:38]>> Did you sign it voluntarily?

[00:09:40]>> Yes.

[00:09:41]>> Do you want me to accept your written plea of guilty?

[00:09:43]>> Yes.

[00:09:44]>> Accept the written plea of guilty.

[00:09:45]Defendant was present. Ms. Navani advised of all of his rights in a knowing, intelligent, voluntary waiver.

[00:09:51]He understands the nature of the charge, the consequence of his guilty plea, and the maximum penalty. Find it to be knowing, intelligent, voluntary. Will accept the plea of guilty and find him guilty of failure to comply, felony four.

[00:10:02]I'll refer this for a pre-sentence report and a drug and alcohol evaluation. Sentencing will be July 1st at 2:00 p.m.

[00:10:08]Ms. Navani?

[00:10:10]>> Yes, Your Honor. At this time, we would like the court to consider a bond modification to remove the GPS monitor off of Mr. Williams. Ever since he's had it on since uh Willoughby, uh he has been very cooperative with it. Um ultimately, he's been following all the bond conditions that was uh set of him with no driving >> Well, almost all of them.

[00:10:28]>> Almost. You're right, Your Honor. With no driving specifically.

[00:10:32]Um he's 21 years old, Your Honor. He graduated high school. He does have a job at Speedway. He is indigent and requires the help of the public defender. Once it the case comes over to will from Willoughby Municipal Court to the Common Pleas Court, it's client-funded at that point, and I know funds are short for Mr. Williams with that respect. And we would ask the court to see if they would be able to consider removing the GPS monitor.

[00:10:57]>> Ms. Johnson?

[00:10:59]>> The state would largely defer to the court as to the GPS monitor. I will just note the obvious concern is that he has uh fled and eluded from police before.

[00:11:09]Uh so, I think it it is useful to have the GPS monitor on.

[00:11:12]>> All right. I'm going to remove the uh GPS monitor as a condition of bond, but but you uh did you know it's a violation of your bond to smoke pot?

[00:11:23]>> Yes, sir.

[00:11:24]>> Okay. So, you're doing it why?

[00:11:29]Knock it off.

[00:11:30]>> Just uh >> Because if you do it again, you're going to sit in jail until you get sentenced.

[00:11:35]>> Okay.

[00:11:35]>> Anything else, Mr. Johnson?

[00:11:37]>> No, thank you, Your Honor.

[00:11:38]>> Mr. Meyer?

[00:11:39]>> No, thank you, Your Honor.

[00:11:41]>> All right.

[00:11:46]>> [clears throat] >> Thank you, Your Honor. We're here in the state of Ohio versus Nathaniel Jackson, case number 25 CR1652.

[00:12:01]The defendant is present with counsel Paul Meyer. We were last here on April 10th, 2026, where the defendant pled guilty to count one of the indictment, failure to comply, a felony of the third degree, and we are here today for sentencing.

[00:12:18]>> All right, Mr. Meyer.

[00:12:20]>> Your Honor, that is correct. I think the court is also aware of the fact that Mr. Jackson has been sentenced by the Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court for a period of incarceration with ODRC, similar charge.

[00:12:35]So, uh we're uh ready to proceed with sentencing.

[00:12:40]>> All right, go ahead.

[00:12:42]>> Well, Your Honor, I would like the court to fashion a sentence which includes a minimal amount of time. I think Mr. Jackson has been relatively cooperative in this matter.

[00:12:54]Uh he's already got a lifetime um suspension of his operator's license, so I know the court would uh also impose that uh overlapping suspension, and then uh I believe any sentence the court imposes is by law going to be consecutive, so uh we understand that. Thank you.

[00:13:17]>> All right, Mr. Jackson, what do you want to tell me before I impose sentence?

[00:13:21]>> Um I just want to let you know that I am better than my worst moments. Um, I'm not like trying to go to prison for a longer time. Like I was hoping like what like a suspended sentence if possible.

[00:13:34]Um, but I'm owning up, taking responsibility for my actions, [clears throat] and just ask for your mercy.

[00:13:42]>> So, what was the thought process here when you were at this >> I wasn't >> behind the wheel in this uh Willoughby case?

[00:13:50]>> I honestly wasn't thinking. I was scared at the time.

[00:13:54]I was really just scared and trying to get away at that moment.

[00:14:00]>> Um, well, the the problem is the getaway.

[00:14:06]What what time uh what what time of day was this? Do you remember?

[00:14:09]>> It was night time.

[00:14:10]Well, evening.

[00:14:12]>> Okay.

[00:14:14]People around in the in the uh shopping center?

[00:14:19]>> They've said that, but not not Yeah.

[00:14:24]>> So, >> [clears throat] >> you you essentially turned a misdemeanor theft case into a felony three fleeing a loot. So, what why did you decide to run?

[00:14:39]>> I was scared. I was on probation in Cuyahoga County. So, I was scared that, you know, I was going to get arrested and they were going to violate my probation and stuff like that. And uh I just knew that I was doing something wrong. So, I was trying not to I was trying to evade the law and not try to get in trouble at that time.

[00:14:59]>> Well, you've been sentenced out of uh Cuyahoga that we year for a failure to comply, right?

[00:15:06]>> Yes.

[00:15:07]>> Right.

[00:15:09]And what was that what was that failure to comply all about? What'd you do?

[00:15:14]>> Um, we actually got They They said that they tried to conduct a traffic stop.

[00:15:21]And I basically I didn't see them, but I pulled over a a little bit further down and they came like about 5 or 10 minutes later and they addressed me about the situation and we handled it right then and there. I went to jail, bonded out, and then >> Okay. You've also got some attempts in your past, right? Attempt failure to failure to comply?

[00:15:42]>> Yeah.

[00:15:42]>> Okay. Why do you keep doing the same thing over and over again?

[00:15:47]>> Honestly, I just I'd be scared to stop for the police like but now I'm just not >> Why?

[00:15:56]>> I most of the time I'd be on probation or it'd be something going on in my life to where I just don't eat.

[00:16:04]Cuz I'm like jail is like the right thing at the right time at that time.

[00:16:08]>> Well, it's usually never the right thing at the right time, right?

[00:16:11]>> No, it isn't, but now it's like now I know not to do that.

[00:16:16]I can't drive anymore.

[00:16:18]>> Well, if this this situation you went you went over a median one point, went a little airborne and and then nearly struck some uh pedestrians.

[00:16:35]And it's it's There's people targets of busy stores.

[00:16:40]People in and out of that place all the time.

[00:16:43]And and you nearly hit some people.

[00:16:48]So, your your past demonstrates you don't have a lot of concern for this kind of stuff cuz you've got what is it Miss Gold is it is it two attempted failure to complies in the past?

[00:17:00]>> Yes, Your Honor. One in 2023 and one in 2025.

[00:17:04]>> Okay.

[00:17:05]And then we got the the okay then we have this one. Go ahead.

[00:17:09]>> The one from 2025 was actually in 2023.

[00:17:13]>> Okay.

[00:17:14]>> It was it was the same one. It was a duplicate charge and I was supposed to get charged for it. And when I got out of prison, he um William McGinty, he mis-sentenced me at the time, I'm I'm guessing.

[00:17:25]And when I got sentenced to prison, he was supposed to put that in there, and he didn't. So, when I got out, he just gave me probation for it, but it was from 2023.

[00:17:33]>> Okay. Well, so on the first attempted failure to comply, you went to prison?

[00:17:43]>> Yeah.

[00:17:45]>> Was that McGinty, also?

[00:17:46]>> Yeah.

[00:17:46]>> Okay.

[00:17:51]And then you got the minimum on the Cuyahoga one, the 12-month, right?

[00:17:55]>> For this here?

[00:17:57]>> No, in when you were downtown.

[00:18:00]>> Yeah, downtown, yeah, now.

[00:18:01]>> Okay.

[00:18:02]You're going to Lorain in a couple weeks for a sentencing on a uh theft, right?

[00:18:07]>> Yeah.

[00:18:09]>> And we got some Summit stuff you got to take care of, right?

[00:18:12]>> Yeah.

[00:18:13]>> All right. You got to get your [ __ ] together. I mean, and this is this is ridiculous.

[00:18:18]>> I understand, Your Honor. I have court on Friday, actually, for another case that I'm trying to clear up.

[00:18:24]>> Um uh I believe so. I think it's Summit. I'm sorry, they they run together. I'd be confused.

[00:18:32]But um it's from prison. I'm in prison now, so it'll be from there.

[00:18:36]>> All right.

[00:18:38]Well, you got to figure out what you want to do after you get out of prison, cuz this this stuff ain't working out too well so far.

[00:18:44]>> I actually was working when I got And then I have a my son, he was born February 11th, so I haven't got to see him yet, either. But I was actually working when I got arrested.

[00:18:55]I just was doing dumb stuff.

[00:18:57]>> Well, that's true. Can't argue with that.

[00:19:00]Anything else you want to say?

[00:19:02]>> I mean, Your Honor, I just ask that you give me the minimum if if any prison time at all.

[00:19:08]>> Well, there has to be prison time.

[00:19:09]That's the nature of the offense. When you pick up these failure to comply, it just compounds. So, it it has to be a prison sentence, and it has to be consecutive.

[00:19:20]So, that's where you're at. That's kind of the activity you engaged in.

[00:19:26]>> I understand.

[00:19:27]>> All right. Ms. Cole?

[00:19:30]>> Thank you, Your Honor. In this case, as you as you have already said, the defendant essentially took what would have otherwise been a misdemeanor theft and escalated it to a failure to comply. This offense happened at approximately 6:30 in the evening on October 27th, 2025, so a few days before Halloween. And at that time, the parking lot where the Spirit of Halloween store was located was busy with pedestrians from Spirit of Halloween, from Target, from several other stores. And the defendant, with no regard to the safety of any of the other pedestrians or people located in those cars, um took off with disregard to those people, driving across a median, driving through a pedestrian crosswalk.

[00:20:15]Um parents had to pull their kids closer to them. There were individuals who the police talked to who were afraid that the defendant's car was going to strike them. Um and the defendant took these actions with no regard for their safety.

[00:20:28]The defendant has previously been convicted of what shows on the Cuyahoga County docket as two attempted failure to complies, one in 2023 and one in 2025, as well as a recent conviction for failure to comply F3 that he was sentenced to in Cuyahoga County. The state does not believe that these actions warrant a minimal prison sentence. The state is asking for prison consecutive to what the defendant is serving in his Cuyahoga case.

[00:20:57]>> And that is a consecutive by statute, correct?

[00:21:00]>> Yes, Your Honor.

[00:21:01]>> All right. I reviewed the um the uh pre-sentence report that was done out of Lorain as well as a portion of the report relating to this offense.

[00:21:20]And uh reviewed the judgment entry from Cuyahoga County from your recent sentence. I considered all the provisions in 2929.11, 2929.12, and 2929.13.

[00:21:33]So, as I said, Mr. Jackson, this is a Uh usually these failure to comply are on streets that lead to highways and 90 mph and the police stop chasing, but this was I think this was more dangerous because now we're not talking about cars, we're talking about people walking uh out of stores, across parking lots at 6:30 at at night, 4 days prior to Halloween, so it's busy.

[00:22:04]And that place is always busy. That shopping center is always busy, especially around that particular area.

[00:22:09]So, you pose a real danger to people who are just out minding their own business because you're and these two other women are, you know, doing what you do, and that's, you know, stealing from different stores. That's you're all over the place doing this stuff.

[00:22:26]So, >> [clears throat] >> on the uh on this charge, count one, the failure to comply, I'm going to sentence you to 24 months in prison.

[00:22:36]And that by statute that sentence is consecutive to your Cuyahoga County case, which is a 12-month sentence.

[00:22:46]Uh I'm also going to impose the costs, and your driver's license is uh suspended for your lifetime. That's a mandatory suspension under the code.

[00:22:56]Uh when you get out, you uh will be on post-release control for a year, up to 3 years with conditions. If you violate the conditions, the parole authority could send you back to prison for up to 9 months for each violation, up to 1/2 of my sentence. If that violation is a new felony, you could get an additional consecutive prison sentence for the violation, the maximum of which is the greater of 12 months or the time left under post-release control.

[00:23:23]The remaining charges are dismissed.

[00:23:26]>> Your Honor.

[00:23:27]>> Yeah.

[00:23:27]>> Am I able to get the time served for since December? Because I got arrested December 16th from Lake County.

[00:23:34]>> Well, I I I I do not believe so. I don't know Ms. Gold's position on this, but you're held on several other cases.

[00:23:42]So, I don't know if uh if you believe there's any credit for for time served.

[00:23:49]>> Your Honor, I don't believe there is because at that time he was also being held and getting credit for >> If you are We'll we'll take a look. If you're If you are not being held on anything else, then I'll give you credit. I'll go back and give you credit for whatever time you served, but if you're being held on something else, then there is no credit.

[00:24:06]>> So, can I get like a judicial or something?

[00:24:08]>> Well, you you got you got you got to clear up a whole bunch of things before you can even think about that.

[00:24:16]So, anything else, Ms. Gold?

[00:24:19]>> No, Your Honor. Thank you.

[00:24:20]>> anything further?

[00:24:21]>> No, Judge. Thank you.

[00:24:23]>> All right. We adjourn.

[00:24:24]>> All right. Two years of time served.

[00:24:26]Two years consecutive to the time that was imposed by Kankakee County.

[00:24:30]>> Yeah, 12 months from there.

[00:24:32]Now, you got 12 24 months from from here.

[00:24:35]>> So, I don't get out till 2019.

[00:24:41]>> Yeah, I would say that's correct.

[00:24:45]Yeah, you know, we'll I'll look into