Applying optimal stopping theory to romance is a fascinating exercise in over-rationalization that ignores the messy, non-linear nature of human chemistry. It’s a clever mathematical framework that ultimately treats potential partners like data points rather than people.
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It is me and Wings and Tech. It is nice to see everybody. Um, can I get a quick sound check? Uh, you guys hear me?
>> One, two, one, two.
>> Sorry, you can hear me fine. Okay, cool.
Yeah, I'm disturbed by the picture of tech. It's really throwing me off. Um, really, really throwing me off. So, let's focus. Welcome to the show. It's nice to see everybody. How you doing, Wings?
>> I'm doing good. Good. Can Can the chat see him?
>> Uh, I think so.
>> Okay. Cuz he looks >> It looks like a porno reference.
>> Okay. I You're watching some very different pornos.
>> You You never You're the one who always talks about a Blumkin.
>> It's very DS. That's what a Blumkin looks like just with a toilet in the background. [laughter] >> No, it's not >> really. I mean, that could look like Anyway, the point is, welcome to the show. It's nice to see you. Uh, is tech like tech likes weekend at Bernie's?
Melissa Duncan, you goddamn right. Thank you for being a member for Ban World for one month. Jaffy, do I know CPR? I do.
Why do you ask? Are you all right? You need me to call somebody?
>> Did you ever see the uh sequel >> to Weekend of Bernie's Weekend Bernies 2? No. No.
>> I was always wondering how they sequel that movie. I've never watched the sequel. It's like, how do you take a dead man and put him in two movies?
>> Well, I'd like to assume it just picked up immediately where the last one left off. Otherwise, it would become very clear very quickly.
Yeah.
>> You know, there is there is a culture that of Weekend at Bernie's.
>> Oh, >> he's never seen it.
>> No.
>> Oh, that might need to go on the movie wheel. The first one.
>> Is the sequel called Week Day at Bernie cuz like the day after >> It was very creatively titled Weekend at Bernies 2.
>> Ah.
>> Um, >> just a little announcements to uh this whole thing. Uh, Tech Protect is taking on more of a producer role to see how this works on the channel. Uh, so I'm essentially dead. We'll only hop in when necessary.
Here we are.
All right.
Thank you.
>> We're taking that picture off.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Um, there is a culture that will dig up the body uh of loved ones and and parade them around the the the town once a year. Uh, I kind of think that's it's not it's not a lie. That's a real thing.
Um, it's not like a mainstream culture in America or something for us, but it's it's it's some small village somewhere.
There are pictures of it. You I'll bring them up if you if you want to see, but um they say it helps with Yeah, they say it helps with the mourning uh and the the the sadness and a celebration of life. So, it keeps those people sort of in, you know, top of mind. I don't know.
I don't know if I'd want to see that, but they make the people look pretty good. Wings, can you turn up your audio?
You're too low, somebody says in the chat.
>> I got you. I got you. Is that a little bit better? Um, so like you're for the AI voice box where like the PE they constantly have AI like pretend to be your loved one, but like >> taking them out the ground and like putting them on a float, that's a step too far.
>> No, no, I don't think there are steps too far. I think ultimately here I I'll show you pictures of this. Uh, I I I think ultimately if this is something that your culture celebrates and wants to have happen and it brings you comfort, I don't care. Um, and I imagine if it's been normalized, it it it's not Yeah, there there's text right there.
Uh, if it's been normalized, it's not a big deal. But, um, but yeah, here you go. The You see these wings?
>> I do see these. It's like, how are they not made a horror movie based on this idea?
>> I don't know. I mean, uh, you know, this was somebody's uncle and he liked to smoke and so he gave him another puff of the cigarette. Um, you know, it's I mean, that's I guess that's what I I don't know how long this would take for a body to look like this, but at at some point you have to imagine you're just carrying around a skeleton and not an actual like this still clearly looks like the guy. Although she's probably like, "Oh my god, this smells terrible." Um, she seems pretty happy. But ain't that something?
[snorts] Would you want your dead body carted around the neighborhood?
>> No. I mean, I probably I'd probably look my best I've done in years cuz if like I'd lose all the weight, but like I'm Dude, he has more hair than I do.
>> Holy moly. Like hair is so resilient.
>> It is. And look at I mean, you know, he looks pretty good for a dead guy, >> you know? I mean, that's that's that's the nicest thing you can say about him, I suppose. But anyway, >> like that picture right there. Is this his skin still there or is that skull?
Like it's hard to tell.
>> No, that's skin. He still has skin. But in this case, you're starting to see like look at the grandma. She's starting to lose her uh or she's lost her um Yeah. See, so she's skull and look at her hands.
>> Yeah. She's lost the epidermis on her skin.
>> Yeah. I I I wonder a lot. My my Oh. Oh god. There's a baby.
>> Why would you dig the baby up? like this is >> it's part of it's part of the culture.
Don't judge, I suppose. But uh and that's clearly not her baby because that baby's been around in the ground for a while. People are like, "Jesus, Jaffy, bring tech back." Um but no, I find this stuff fascinating and and you know, my brother was at the cemetery this weekend for Mother's Day and I I don't know. I mean, you you know, I wonder what my parents look like right now. I'd be fascinated.
>> I have no idea what that is. No, >> passport bros are guys that go looking for like loved ones or like significant others in other countries. They need a passport to go get them. So, they usually target countries that are poor that have very little resources so they can impress them with their American income and American flash, right? So like they go to like the Philippines and and countries like that and they get these young women that and they bring them back to the states and they and they go through the visa process.
Just imagine you get a woman and you're talking to her and she wants you to come to her to her uncle's like I don't know shindig and it's one of these things, right? That would be that she's that's a 90-day fiance episode that needs to happen. I mean, you know, I would say I like I like quirky ladies. I really do.
I [laughter] mean, I I I I think I mean, because seriously, there are no such things as sort of manic pixie dream girls like in the movies, but that would be the closest you could get to a manic pixie dream girl in real life. That's like such you I mean, Wes Anderson, that's too quirky for Wes Anderson, right? So, I mean, I I I would go, "All right, she's a keeper. She's she's pretty cool." By the way, not right now, but a little later in the show, I want to share a a story with you. A scientist has revealed uh the way to find your true love. Uh it's a formula. It is interesting. It is based on a lot of different kinds of research.
>> I'd be interested.
>> Yeah. No, it's very very interesting.
But uh >> Trump found his true love three times.
>> Who who did?
>> Trump.
>> Yeah. Trump's Trump. Trump Trump found his true love the first time he looked in a mirror that and and and he he he stopped seeing any and everybody else.
Speaking of true love, speaking of looking in a mirror, uh tell me if you saw this. Tell me if you saw this. This was happening in China uh over the weekend and uh >> and I push onto this new topic. You said the other day that you don't feel like monotony like uh what what word did you use? Monog.
>> Monotony. Monogamy and monotony. It's the same thing.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
You didn't feel like monogamy was something that was was something that human bodies went for, something that we kind of tolerated and fixed into. Is that going to take your effect on like the true love story?
>> Um, no. Because that's very that's different. It's it's it's the the true love story is about how do you find the right partner? So, I'm I'm calling it true love. Whether or not it's true love or not, I think works either way depending on what you're into and what you're looking for. But it's how do you find the person the the the the most scientifically accurate way to find someone that will bring you the most happiness out of your all of your options. And this this technique, by the way, applies to lots of other things, not just romance. But the the the scientist framed it with romance because obviously he knew it would get more people interested. But >> speaking of romance, speaking of beauty, look at this sweet young nice Chinese lady. Look at her. It Hello. It's very It's very nice that in in, you know, that people with the internet now are able to find true love. The the you know, the distance have been has been bridged. Uh Sarah met Tony over the internet, right? I mean, there's lots of people who have those kind of relationships now. It's nice.
>> I got married over the internet.
>> Did you really? Yeah. It's nice to see Oh, JESUS.
>> The filter filter.
>> Yeah. She lost 140,000 uh viewers uh almost immediately.
>> Doug, I thought this was going to be about the dude in the top right that can't keep his mouth closed cuz in my head, I have bad teeth, right? Not bad in the sense I don't brush them or anything, but like I grind my teeth while I sleep. So I have very little teeth over years because I have >> brutitis.
This filter [ __ ] is crazy especially in China.
>> Yeah. I mean it's it's I mean but you do it everywhere now. So, you know, um you know, I I I I would say at that point, at that point, if that's sort of what you're into, uh the younger woman and then I don't know on one hand, of course, it's a betrayal, but it's all entertainment. I mean, how is it different than makeup?
>> You see a woman, you know? I mean, although Well, yeah. I don't know. I don't know, though.
>> You never got a bar flop, Jeffy. bring them home and they w they wash their face in the morning. It's like, "Oh, different person."
>> I mean, yeah, but that's just that's not like different age, different different generation. I mean, that woman there is like 60 and she looked like she was 21, right? I mean, but now it is interesting, you know, when you think about it, the kind of woman like what experience if if you it's it's that perfect storm of if you could go back in time, right, and and know what you know now, but be young again. That's kind of that you kind of happening, right? You have a woman who has all of her experience and her confidence and her education of of how to deal with romance and whatnot and she can basically go back and be 20 again, you know, not in at least on the internet.
>> That's kind all the positive quirks. She also has all her jadiness and all her pet peeves and all her intricacies. Like there's there's negatives of getting old, too.
>> Well, then she just knows what she's not going to put up with, right?
>> Yes. Um, so I hell if you look at the guy up there, you think the guy should have [ __ ] put um uh a [ __ ] filter on. It's like, come on, dude.
>> Or closed his mouth.
>> Yeah, exactly. I [laughter] don't know.
I don't know. I mean, look, let's put it this way. I've never used a I mean, I've talked to cam girls before for my show and stuff, but I've never like gone into a private one-on-one with a cam girl.
But if I were to go into a private cam girl conversation, there's no way I'd put my camera on. Why would I Why would I throw a monkey wrench into it? Let her >> I I I don't you know what I'm saying?
It's like because I'm not saying I'm some kind of, you know, Quasimoto, but I'm saying why even let if she can perform better by fantasizing that I'm uh who's a big dude that everybody likes? Uh you know, >> Ryan Gosling.
>> Yeah. If I'm Ryan Gosling, let her do that. I don't I don't need her to see me. So, I look at that guy and he's just like, "Oh, oh." I'm like, "Come on, man.
What do you take your [ __ ] picture?
>> I like what I see."
>> Yeah.
>> He's like, "I just showing his teeth."
Yeah. It's like, "Oh, come lord."
>> But, but a lot of guys think they're more attractive than they are. I think women have a much better a much better perception of where they >> I would hate to be a woman. Just the whole idea of like going to a car, a club or a bar, and there's just this drunk dude. Hey, baby, you so sexy. and like wanting to like touch you. Like that gives me the ick. That gives me the ick.
>> Yeah, it gives you the ick. But it's not only a bar, it's everywhere. Um and I and I know I'm the liberal guy. I'm the progressive guy, but and and I am. But you know, the it the amount of women, and I'm telling you, this is not just like, oh, well, that's rare. This happens everywhere. This happens in my neighborhood, which is a very nice little neighborhood. um women being told to smile.
It's a cliche, I know, but it's like, you know, there are men that have been raised and I just I find them staggeringly disturbing to feel that women are there for their own [ __ ] entertainment. And you know, I have a daughter, I have an ex-wife, I I have a sister, I care about women, not just because of that, but certainly. And I'm just like, don't [ __ ] tell my kid to smile, [ __ ] You [ __ ] smile, you [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] I I can't get my head around that, man. I just can't >> I It's like >> or be worth smiling at.
>> Like, do something that she enjoys.
>> Yeah, [ __ ] entertain me, [ __ ] I got the LCU one that I'm listening to. I don't need you to [ __ ] entertain me.
>> But yeah, no, I I I think women have a much better sense of how they present.
And a lot of guys are just like, "But I'm here. I rolled in. What else do you need, sweetheart?" It's like a lot. A [ __ ] lot. But that's going to get fixed because we are not far away. I don't know if I have them with me, but >> this kind of goes against my wholeation talk.
>> I don't know what that is.
>> We've talked about hopeflation before.
>> What was it?
>> Um, where women have more choices nowadays, so they they inflate their value.
>> Yes. Well, I don't know if they're inflating their value. I think they're probably recalibrating their value if they have more choices. Inflation suggests it's not an accurate rise, right? It's it's a it's a it's a rise.
>> But if women have more choices, their value does go up. And that that kind of goes into this whole like talk about you finding your true romance because like to me it's like I was when you first said it to me I'm like it's it's funny how like everybody finds somebody within like 50 miles from them to be their true love >> because they're there. They're convenient. That's the person for them at that point. And it's like is that your true love? Because like I love Kelly. I think Kelly is my true love.
>> Well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. But what is when you What does that even mean?
>> What do you Can you >> She is your true love. You're You're saying true love like it's an actual thing.
>> I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life with anybody else on the world.
>> Yeah.
>> Like like if you gave me a million dollars right now and I could have my pick of any woman on the planet, I'd probably still pick her.
>> Okay. But no, you wouldn't. And you know that's true, right?
How do you know what how you know what I would know?
>> Because because there are infinite possibilities and Okay, I'll give you a great example. I'll give you a great example. Let me get this super chat first though. Uh we appreciate it very much.
>> Uh this is how the show lives, thrives, and survives. We need your duckets.
Especially, can you imagine folks if the day when Tech Protect decides not to chime in all that much? We have our most valuable financial day. Can you imagine the message that sends to his ego? Think about it. [clears throat] >> In the meantime, Jessica Jingle, thank you, buddy, for the super chat. Where's Tech? My rotten soldier, my sweet cheese, my good time boy. He's right here. He's just today. We're trying to figure out the cadence of the show.
There you go. We're trying to figure out the cadence of the show. And there are people that think, "Oh, well, if tech played more of a producer role, but he was still very available and chiming in when he had something interesting to say, that would be better than it being a a threeman threehosted podcast, basically. And so, we're just we're just testing it out. We're just testing it out."
>> Well, even in even in Tekken, the producer, we're still a three-man podcast. He's just on a very scaledback thing. Like, if he has something to say, he can say it.
>> Well, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Um, okay. So, so I I I I'm not ignoring the romance talk, but I I Okay, Kelly being the one for you, the idea of true love. And we were talking the other day about free will. Okay. Um, there is a story, and here's the title of the story. Uh, new theory suggests that alternate universe versions of you are determining your fate. So here's this is a new doctor uh dealing in quantum physics, new scientist. According to him, the observer effect has been badly mangled by decades of internet philosophy and stoner dorm room interpretations of quantum mechanics.
The simplified version says that particles exist in multiple states until someone observes them, causing reality to collapse into a single outcome. what he says is happening is that every single time any choice is made or any any option happens A or B, we splinter off into another multiverse, right? So, there was a moment where Tech chose to put his a different picture up.
That universe is tracking and moving along just fine, but we're currently in this one. And we may be jumping from multiple universes multiple times. So the person that you are in love with right now, Kelly, depending on factors that could have occurred, could be a totally different kind of person in your life. Right? That this is his theory.
Um, and my take on it is why, you know, I look at it and I kind of go, if you could actually see this, uh, and and and it's like I would love to be able to go to certain points of my life and go this what would have happened there, right?
like if if if I would have tried to I I wouldn't want to jump into those shoes again because I've already you know I wouldn't want to risk all that I have.
But to be able to look at it and go there was a time I wanted to be a film director and I ended up abandoning that for a variety of reasons and got into games. What's my life look like if I stayed with that and you know and to watch that almost like a movie or to go back in time and sort of be invisible and see that. Do you have moments like so with the Kelly thing, you're telling me there's not a situation where you would say there was this one woman blah blah blah. I'd like to see how that might would have turned out.
>> Well, I was thinking like when you're talking about it, I'm like Kelly had thyroid cancer that could have killed her. Like what happens if it did kill her, >> right? That's right.
>> And like Yeah, there's those that situations where she doesn't exist. But like I don't know like I'm thinking back to every relationship I've ever been in and I don't think any of them really would have worked out. Like Priscilla had got cancer too. She died of ovary uh sis. She had I forgot something in her girly parts got cancer. I don't remember exactly what.
>> Okay.
>> I have a lot of dead girlfriends like >> Okay. This is You are your own worst enemy. Jesus Christ. Now, now I'm going to have to deal with that sound bite every time somebody's trolling you. Now, I have a lot of dead girlfriends.
>> Well, I'm just I'm thinking back to all the girlfriends I've had like like half of them have passed on at this point cuz like different health reasons. Like one one had a weak heart, couple with cancer, one kind of got on drugs, and I don't know about that one. Um I don't know. I don't >> to to to sick women. Do you like troll the the the the the [laughter] ICU in hopes that when they wake up you can swoop in with flowers? And >> maybe it's a confidence thing.
>> May. Yeah, maybe.
>> But to be fair, I was friends with Kelly six years before she got cancer.
>> Right. Right. Right. Right. Okay.
>> Well, yeah. So, but but you're Okay, I get Okay. The true love thing we'll get back to. I mean, I personally don't believe in true love. I think that when you the the very nature of what you're saying, it's funny. People find their their mates within 50 miles of them, right? Um, >> you know, it's the the you don't really believe Well, I Okay, I don't believe in the romantic idea of soulmates like you're talking about necessarily, but I do think maybe we are on a journey with people in our server. Like I think my ex, I think my brother, I think my >> children.
>> Oh, I'll get them. I'll get all those in a sec. Um, I think all of those uh people I've traveled with before into different simulations. I think that is accurate. But I don't know that, of course. But you actually think there is some kind of thing that sits on high going your true love is Kelly and no matter what would have happened you were destined to find each other.
>> I don't I don't think that I don't think that like you with million timelines I'm always going to end up with Kelly but this particular Jordy finds his life without Kelly much worse.
>> Oh well yeah I could see that. Is there a time is there a moment a crossroads you would want to go back though and go if I would have done X in trouble >> well I'm just curious like I for me it would be the film thing uh for me it might be uh there there are moments in high school where I got picked on a few times that I'm like oh my god I should have done this >> there the mo there is a moment I've questioned and this is going to get me in trouble and thank you for this um um I don't believe in marriage which is kind of funny since I'm currently married.
>> Okay.
>> Right.
>> Um I'm not religious. I looked at marriage as a religious ceremony. I had no intention of ever getting married, but I was given an ultimatum. I was currently dating Kelly and she goes, "She wants to be married. She needs to be married. Blah blah blah blah blah."
And I wanted her to be in my life. Like what are we doing? Are we going to get married? Are we not going to get married? and she's religious enough that her parents wouldn't even allow her to stay over at my house unwed. Right.
>> Okay.
>> So, I looked and I thought I'm like I had this crossroad where it's like I can say no here and this instant relationship >> because you didn't believe because you didn't believe in the institution, >> right? I didn't believe in the institution. Um or I could say yes in Kelly's mind and I chose yes. But like there's a thing I've always thought like what happens if I say no there? What does my life look like? And I've never put it past that.
>> I I look man, if if I I would love to open up like a tourist industry about this. You come in, it's kind of like Total Recall, but it's like you come in, you pay, we give you a week of your life or we give you a a highlight reel of what your life would have been like if you would have gone left instead of right. I would I it you know maybe there is a future where we can look into the the multiverse and the the alternate timelines. Uh I want to get to these super chats. Thank you guys very much.
Shark bait. Good morning. Good morning Sharkbait. Enjoying the techfree vibe here. Good conversation. Thank you for the super chat and the uh support buddy.
Kisses to my crypties says my best friend pieed Irish. We appreciate it very very much. Thank you pal. Uh Lily Bell of the uh Connecticut Lily Bell.
Very good. SC0 and one super chated $9.99.
Kelly was almost on that list as well when Wings smashed her down on a table.
Kelly is a survivor.
>> I thought we had the super chats that TTS turned down or off.
>> When it's time to TTS, TTS goes back on the screen. People can donate during this time to do the interruption since it is an interruption time. That's your request, not mine.
>> Get rid of it. I'll read them.
>> TS forever gone.
Yeah, nobody wants >> Panda Irish the $20 or the 20 said, "Why did my thing not read out? What's going on?" So, she wanted it.
>> I think we should have it.
>> It's so disruptive.
>> But this is this is this is the this is the donation time. It can play right now. Like this.
>> How do you How do you know that though?
How do you know it's the donation?
>> Because you said, "I'm going to start reading super chats."
>> Oh, I just I was going to read them. All right, fine. Uh I had a MF. What's MF, [ __ ] I had a MF tell me to my face one time. Uh, I about lost my [ __ ] Nearly crashed out, by the way. Hi guys.
Love your show. Hi Jaffy. Hi Lily Bell.
I had a MF tell me to Oh, to fix my face one time. Oh. Oh, like smile, sweetheart. Yeah, you goddamn right.
>> Oh, Lily got that resting [ __ ] face.
>> No, no, no, no. That's a terrible thing to say. She's saying that she's walking around and >> it's a terrible thing to say. You had me over here like doing a hypothetical.
What happens if I did if I left my wife?
>> Wasn't hypothetical. There's a universe in which you did leave your wife >> because Right. But no, Lily Bell's right. She's like, "Fuck you, [ __ ] I I I I would if I was a woman and I understand that that there are, you know, a lot of times women will acquies to this [ __ ] because it that men can get violent in certain cases, so they just go ahead and do it. I would be a dead woman if I had to live life as a woman in America or wherever. I I either I couldn't do it. I couldn't do what Lily Bell did. I would have [ __ ] crashed out. I would be like, "Motherfucker, I'm going to [ __ ] shoot you in the goddamn head. Thank you for for the uh super chat, Lily Bell. We appreciate very very much." Um want to make sure I'm not missing any of these.
Hang on a second. Uh cuz Tech has it on the OBS. I don't have it on the OBS. Um >> I got you. Poke Gaga member for two months says, "Uh, can we set a goal for Jeffy to use lock and load? Jeffy is going to be shooting ropes. Also, I need to take you up on that $25 or 25k loan you offered. Thank you for being A PAY FOR TWO MONTHS." MELISSA DUNCAN SAYS, "I believe there are multiple realities and I too believe we are constantly shifting. Quantum physics is fascinating. MTX, thank you for the one gifted." Russ Burgerer, Mr. Wings, you should reclaim your freedom. Divorce is a legit option. Thank you for the donation. I don't know if he'll take that suggestion. Seth Luke says, "Too many people in the chat don't know how to handle a show that isn't fake drama and people yelling." And then Big Mistake says, "I enjoy this show's pacing a lot more. It's giving NPR, not local until just then." Uh, okay, cool.
Uh, and yeah, keep the super chats coming, folks, so we can uh determine if you like this. But maybe you don't.
Maybe you don't. Too many people in the chat don't know how to handle a show that isn't fake drama. Yeah, I don't I don't I'm not watching the chat. I was told not to watch the chat as much, so I'm not. So, let me know. Hit me up. But anyway, uh the thing about finding true love though, uh we are very close. I mean, this is going to cause a big stink, but it's going to be a huge little cottage industry. Is when we get augmented reality glasses that we already have them, right? Which is you know what these are, right?
>> Dude, I I I when you say it, I think virtual reality like like like the lawnmower man.
>> No, it's it's basically like uh a it's like the it's like the Meta Ray-B bands, right? but they're much more robust. So, you take the glasses, you put them on, they're normal glasses, either sunglasses or just cosmetic or you actually use them to see, but there are lenses that are powered by the phone in your pocket, right? And it allows overlays, right? So, like GPS, so if you're driving, you can actually see like a video game. you see the arrow of your exit or if you tell if you say to the AI person in the on the phone whatever it name is I don't want to say it um hey where's the nearest McDonald's you'll see like here are three McDonald's and they'll go bloop bloop and pop up in your field of view and you know so it's things like that right or you you'll be shopping at the grocery store and it'll know your list and it'll tell you where everything is just by looking oh on this aisle here are the three things boom So these glasses going to start like scanning females at the grocery store and be like this is how compatible you are with this person.
>> I think there will be an app that basically if you have to opt in but if you have the app and you put it on it's like you know the app's called uh judgy judge me whatever. And so if if a woman or anybody, but let's say it's a woman in the grocery store, I look at her and I'm like, "Oh, I think she's an eight, right?" And the eight appears for for for me and for anyone any, you know, if she looks at me and she is in on the app, I can see what she thinks of me.
So, you can go to a bar and you don't even have to worry about approaching people anymore, unless you're like, "Oh, she thinks I'm cute. All right, cool.
I'll go over there." But if I look at some woman that I'm into and she looks at me and she's like, "Oh, he's a three." I'm keeping my ass sitting there, you know, watching the game or whatever the [ __ ] I'm doing in the bar, which I don't go.
>> Hold up. Why? Why are we not developing this app? Like, why why are we not doing this?
>> We will, but the glasses aren't there yet.
>> I'm talking about you.
>> Well, the glasses exist already, but they're very basic right now. So, um, you you can obviously put the glasses on, you can take video, you can broadcast from them, you can ask AI, you can like look at something and say, "Hey, what am I looking at?" It'll tell you in your earpiece. And we're just now getting to the point with very simple overlays like GPS and whatnot. So, we're about a year to two years away from being able to have like Apple coming out with a very consumerfriendly version that actually delivers on this stuff. Le let's drop the glasses part of it right for right now, right? Let's say the glasses part never comes about.
>> Well, here iPhones can detect other iPhones near them, right?
>> Yes. Oh, yeah.
>> There's AirDrop. There's all kinds of things. You could send pictures to random strangers if you really wanted to and they will and they're willing to accept it, right? How about you create this app that when you when you go into the app that you have to like kind of like auto accept every thing from that app from other phones and then you just look at people with your phone camera like you scan a bar and you just give them numbers and then that p and that person can see like oh this person gave you a number. You got an eight from this girl over here in this corner. I I think you could do it in a bar like, "Hey, our bar built this app, but I think out in the world to make it really work, it needs to be a little bit more inconspicuous." Like, you don't want to be like going to the grocery, what is she think of me? You know, it's obvious what you're doing. People are like, "Don't [ __ ] take my picture, you [ __ ] freak." All that. Whereas, if you just look around, it just happens. I think I think you know the idea of being um a little bit a little bit uh subtle about it is is an important part of it.
>> So you think the mask of the glasses is what's going to bring everything together because like generally like oh you don't want people taking your picture at the f at the at the bar in the grocery store whatever but people going to do that with the [ __ ] glasses. It's going to happen.
>> They're doing it now. Uh, the way they've tried to solve it at this point with the Ray-B bands for Meta is there's a little light that'll [ __ ] when when the the cameras on or the video cameras on, you know, people have still found ways around that. You know, there's going to be creeps always, but I I really I'm a fan of augmented reality. I I like the idea uh of having a layer of uh virtual over reality. Not all the time, of course, not when you're taking a walk in the woods and [ __ ] but if you are out shopping, if you're driving, um, you know, you know, the if you're dealing with someone who doesn't speak English and it's just automatically translating it, you know, or giving you closed caption if you're hard of hearing, there's a lot of quality of life improvements we can get.
>> Um, and people can say, "Oh, I don't like that." But you know what? You're wearing glasses, Jordy. right now you're wearing glasses because your physical eyes need help to function at a at a normal level in this society. The idea of saying, "Oh, and now my brain gets a little bit of help to function at a higher level." I I don't see the problem. I You know, >> I think you're missing a million-dollar idea here, like with these glasses you're talking about. How about like a Pokemon Go level thing where like instead of Pokemon it's like goblins >> and you get to like physically hit the goblins and get experience like you're in the grocery store. Oh, there's a goblin in a six, you know, like just more I'm sure Kroger or Vans wants than people in the you know swinging and knocking over the wine and the the [ __ ] cheese.
>> Yeah, but what about people recording children and other people without their permission in the [ __ ] Kroger? Like it's going to these glasses are going to be a menace.
>> Well, yeah, but that's I mean again, you're what are you going to do? Stop society from moving forward because there's some creeps out there. Let's just get rid of the creeps. Let's work on that, maybe. Cuz think about that.
You could have the sex offender list, right? And anybody who's a sex offender in the grocery store, you're wearing your glasses and they're just like bloop. I mean, you know, it's like the Scarlet Letter but for the the the modern day. Not that the Scarlet Letter was a sex offender, but I mean they were Hester Prince. She was a She was a Tigris. Anyway, listen, Poke Gaga, last thing I need is my wife going through my glasses. You're goddamn right, Poke Gaga. Can we have another wings read another text file, says Scor. I know.
Well, look, maybe. Maybe >> I do have the I do have the F-150 shortage text file.
>> You got I don't even know what that means. Member for one month, Ban World, Douggee Savona. Thank you so much for supporting the show. We appreciate it very very much. Would you like to talk about the uh the true love thing? By the way, Ban World uh Scuba Steve been here for three months. Thank you being a member for Ban World. Don't forget we're watching movies this weekend. If you upgrade to Cash Cow, you can get in. Our movie uh weekends are becoming more and more popular every week. We see more and more members there. I don't know what our theme is going to be this weekend, but we'll find out together. TTS off says scororn to protect wings fragile ego. Amazing. No, it's me. It's not wings. Uh, listen man, I I'm a fan of the TTS going away. I think it's annoying as [ __ ] Um, up your attraction number to those seeing you for five duckets a month. That's a good point, Pokey Gaga. Like that [ __ ] old lady, right, who had the filter in China. I mean, you're not you're going to be able to tell someone's using a filter, but that's still not a bad point. You talk about beer goggles, literally, you know, you just Oh, see. I mean, seriously, you could do that if if you're like owning it and just going, "Look, she's a four, but with the glasses, she's an eight.
Just wear [clears throat] keep the glasses on."
>> Yeah. Just keep glass on the whole time.
Just like missionary style. Just right in her face. And and and and and it can make all the women smile. Every woman you walk past is smiling, right? Even though they may not be, but you don't have to say smile, sweetheart.
>> Maybelline stock plummets.
>> Oh, yeah. You know, [laughter] Scuba Steve has sent a gifted membership to this fine program. We appreciate it very, very much. Imagine necroiliacs raiding dead people. Yeah. Well, that probably happens now. Well, that that probably happens in that that first little culture we looked at where they pulled the dead people out the ground.
>> It's like the women are like, I tell you what, I know that I know he's dead, but he still looks pretty good.
>> Uh, imagine Yeah, exactly. Thank you, mafioso, of racism. Uh, all right. Now, let's go back to this true love story.
Um, listen to me. The scientist comes out.
Uh, this was a 1988 book, but it's part of a New York Times article about how people, the happiest people are not the people who insist on perfection. It's the people who have figured out how to thread the needle and getting good enough and then moving on. Um, you you'll be miserable otherwise. So, let me just read this paragraph. This is really interesting about finding the right mate.
The mathematician John Allen Pollos illustrated this principle.
How should you find your final romantic partner? First, he argued you should estimate the number of people you might plausibly date in your lifetime. Okay, so assuming you don't get married and your spouse dies and you date again, let's say 20 people you're going to date in your lifetime.
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>> Thank you Bri for the super chat and the recommendation. That sounds very interesting. Is it a documentary? It's like a reality show or is it a like a a serious doc? Either one sounds great though. Um, yeah, the TTS is too loud though.
>> Turn the TTS on every 30 minutes. It's been 10 minutes, bud.
>> Um, >> nah.
>> Well, how do you say nah? Like like like >> the money the money potential is good to have someone interrupt Jaffy. People were asking to do it.
>> Can you just turn it? No. No. Can you just turn it down though? It's so loud.
like you are aware it's hurting people's ears, right?
>> Okay, it is turned down.
>> Okay. Uh anyway, okay. So, 20 people it says then date roughly the first third with no intention of committing to these people. So, you have fun. What what he says is use that time purely to calibrate what you liked, what you didn't, and what you might be missing.
Right? So, you're you're basically like going out in the field doing research for the first third of that number. He says this, here's the secret sauce.
After that, commit to the very next person you like better than everyone you've already dated. He was illustrating a result in probability, which shows that this rule gives you the best chance of ending up with the best partner in the whole sequence. If you keep pushing past that point, you're more likely to end up with a worse match or no one at all. The core insight, this is the last sentence. The path to the best outcome runs directly through the willingness to stop searching long before you've exhausted the options. Not only will that help you find true love, but it will help you be happy because the most >> lord >> the most pe the mo the unhappiest people are the people that are constantly like I could get better than this. I could get better than this. I could do better than this. And they end up not living their lives. So he he took he took the term satisfaction is the death of desire and took this [ __ ] literally. This guy is redpilled. Like he is a idiot.
Whoever wrote this, >> he he how is he an idiot? It sounds perfectly uh >> here's here's here's here's how he's an idiot, right? Um what happens if the person that is the right person for you is in that first third? Like let let's say the first seven girls that you go out with, right? Let's say your soulmate's in there, right? the one that you connect with, the one that feeds your soul, the one that that gets you there, the one that sits outside the bathroom door when you're sick. What if that girl's in there and you're just like, "All right, well, this one dude on the internet told me to never give these girls a chance. Just play the field, have fun, and move on." And make sure the second set of girls, I take the best properties of the girl that I liked in the first group, and only pick her in the second group. Well, I think you're being literal to the point of you're coming up with a scenario that, you know, demolishes the the more often than not value of the concept.
Certainly, if you date 20 women and then that is your cut off and then you have to find someone new that's better than any of the 20 and after a year you can't stop thinking about number six. Okay, I'm sure there are some, you know, there's fine print for that, but on the whole, what he's saying is the the idea of chasing after perfection is going to get you into a really bad situation because there is no perfection. Um, and you should just start living your life.
>> Dude, you're also looking at like dudes getting 20 dates. Like, 20 dates is [ __ ] hard now.
>> I I I said I said 20. It could be five.
I mean, it could be five, right? It's a third of whatever your >> but but if it's a it's five that's too small of a scale like or so like the first third like the first two girls you date make sure you have no attachment to them and number three and four you got to pick one of those two and five and six don't you have a chance >> yeah let me hang on I got to send a letter to this Nobel Prize winning mathematician >> yeah we we we talked about this I don't care about Nobel prizes >> well yeah but most the world does and say yeah your formula's wrong wings is decided I I Well, guys in the chat, let me single guys in the chat that currently have online dating profiles, please speak up here.
How many people have you swiped right on that you've actually talked to? And out of the people you actually talk to, how many of you actually went on a date? I'm I'm sure the number is staggeringly low because I see this all the time, right?
Guys will swipe 200,000 girls >> and they'll end up talking to six.
They mention that in this article. They say the problem why a lot of people are really having a hard time with dating and dating apps is they're like maybe the next one. It's like I really like this one, but maybe the next one. Maybe the I don't think that's the case at all from a male's perspective. Like from a male perspective, >> from a male perspective, if if you're single and a girl comes up to you and is interested in you and she's even somewhat attractive, like she's not missing an eye, her face isn't droopy, she hadn't had a stroke, and she goes, "Hey, would you like to go to the >> That's your definition of somewhat attractive. She's not missing an eye and she hasn't had a stroke. You need to raise the bar a little bit."
>> I'm just saying the bar is incredibly low.
>> All right. All right. and she goes up to like, "Hey, I really like you. Would you like to go to Sizzlers or some place?"
Right? That guy, 9.5 out of 10, is going to take that girl to Sizzlers and pay for it and be happy about it. He's going to enjoy the experience.
>> Yeah, but he's at Sizzlers. I mean, how could you not, you know?
>> Couple chat, back me up here. Like, this this guy's convinced by this Nobel Prize guy that says, "Fuck the first third and the last third. Your true love is somewhere in the middle of your dating world.
I mean, it's kind of true. And I don't know if I was Kelly, I'd be too fond about the fact saying she, you know, am I beautiful, wings? Well, your eyes not popped out of your goddamn head and your face ain't droopy and you ain't had a stroke, so it's good enough for wings. I mean, come on, Shark Wait, thank you for the super chat. Technology is changing our world fast. I'm sure glasses like that will have a payto-play element. Of course, of course it will. That's the problem, man. That is the total [ __ ] problem. Um, Jim says Nobel Prize guy is greater than overweight depressed man who doesn't pull it off. I mean, look, I'm not saying I'm I'm I'm a a catch either, but I will say that when it comes to this particular topic, I will take the math. Math usually works out pretty well uh versus gut feeling.
Anyway, that's how you find your true love.
>> I I just I just think that it it just takes the term satisfaction as the death of desire. Like you know how to be happy with your current car, don't desire another car. Like as soon as you're satisfied with your current car and you're come to peace with that, >> you don't need to buy a new car. Your car does what it does. Like that's that can everything in life, >> right?
>> That is absolutely right. And that is the key to happiness. In fact, they call it there's a there's a term in this article um uh it says if in making decisions you are often guided by a search for the best, you are going about decision-m all wrong and you're probably less happy for it. Right? Psychologists call that tendency maximizing. We assume we can find the best of everything if we look long and hard enough. But what you should be doing is a term called satisi satisficing u to describe how we consider a limited set of options then choose one that's good enough and move on with our lives.
>> Dude, I wish I could do that so much.
Like I look at >> you. YOU JUST SPENT 20 MINUTES MAKING FUN OF IT AND SAYING it's >> No, no, no, no, no. I that concept is cool, but like putting it in in the realm of dating is like he's basically saying like just find a girl that fits your needs. That's your true love.
That's not your true love. That's not what true love is. But >> there is no true love. That's the other thing is he's saying get rid of that.
That's Hallmark. That's like diamonds.
Oh, a diamond. We all know the sto story of the >> girl. Girls are conditioned to look for that. Hallmark movies is a great example.
>> You have the worst view of women. Wings of redemption.
>> How do how do I how how you figure it?
It it it it is it is so based in like 1980s.
Uh well, these women THESE CRAZY WOMEN ALWAYS BACK HERE TALKING Y I but we love them, don't we, fellas?
>> No, no, that don't. I'm just saying women are naturally conditioned in the in like romance movies that the guy's going to like, you know, walk through a hurricane to make sure that she has her milk on time or like she he's going to come through and make that car payment or whatever it might be. You you I look, China is in less needs of human right reform than you are in need of therapy.
Okay? Your idea of what a woman is is so antiquated. I'm not saying pe people like love, people like romance. Nothing wrong with that. That's a wonderful thing. It makes the world turn blah blah blah. But this idea that oh well women are, you know, those women, they got to have that love boys. Let's, you know, let me get another. Come on.
>> I'm just saying they're conditioned for that kind of romance. They want that romance in their life. They want a guy to long for them. They want a guy to think they're the best of everything.
>> No, they don't.
>> I get I get in trouble all the time because I rate women directly what they are. Like five would be an average woman. It's your everyday walkound woman. And >> maybe you get in trouble all the time cuz you're women. But but at the same time, it's like every woman wants to be a 10. 10 doesn't exist. 10 10's perfection. There's no such thing as perfection.
>> Where are you rating these women and who do you get >> on Local Live? Like these on the on the on the Local Universe, people go like, "Can you rate these women?" And I rate them honestly.
>> You know, >> give me give me a woman. I'll rate her.
Put up a picture. They have a theory, says Sling. Uh, thank you for the super chat. Very generous. That you have three true loves in your lifetime.
Okay. I mean, I I don't know what that means. I mean, I I hear you and I know what you mean that there are three romances that really can stick to your bones. I don't truly know I don't believe in the idea of true love. I I do think we share a server, which is just as romantic, but I don't think it's called true love. I think we journey on this uh uh we we go into this simulation with our buddies at the mall and we're just experiencing it uh with them and that's why we feel connected to some people over others. Uh, I've met more women at a bar than online dating, says Poke Gaga. Well, yeah. I mean, that's cuz they're there, but I agree. Thank you for the super chat. Uh, World of GoroCraft says Pepsi Pimp take Kelly uh to her Disney walk dog. She has a Disney walk. What's that?
>> It's one of the things she wants to do, but it's very hard to get tickets for, and it costs a lot of money. It's like $2,500 for this Disney walk. Like, whenever >> I don't know what What is it? My wife does 5ks to try to stay in shape and um she wants to do the Disney 5K like where she like runs with the animals and all this like animals being like the mascots of Disney and stuff like that >> at at Disney World or >> in Florida.
>> But is it at the park?
>> Yes.
>> Oh, fun. Okay. All right.
>> And and I'm I'm like that's too expensive to pay to walk.
>> D Disney has become prohibitive. I mean, I used to go all the time. Uh it's too expensive. It's ridiculous. It's It's thousands of dollars for a weekend of with your family. Um, wings true love and Bailey J says [ __ ] hunter. I don't know who that is, but >> Bailey J is lion trap. She is basically like a boy that's a girl, but she was so passible back. This is early internet days. This is back on like, you know, something rotten forms and stuff like that. Whereas like, oh, you really like girls? Do you like this girl? Huh? Huh? Huh? cuz she was that passible, right?
>> I see.
>> I've I've always had this question like if you had to sleep with one of them, do you sleep with Bailey Jay >> or Buck Angel?
>> I'm going to look them both up. I've never heard of either one of them. So, you're saying these are these are men.
>> Well, well, the idea of the question is, are you attracted to the female form or are you attracted to the female? Because Buck Angel is a legitimate female. She knows all the female parts.
You'll see what Buck Angel looks like.
Um, >> well, I gotta see. There's a lot of different pictures of >> Wait, I'm looking at Bailey Jay right now. Who's Bailey Jay?
>> Bailey Jay is If you just put Bailey Jay in, she'll pop up. She's like a girl with like black hair.
>> Yeah, I see her. Is that Is that a Is that a biological woman or is it a trans woman?
>> That's a trans woman.
>> Okay. So, you're saying would I rather have sex with Does she have a penis?
>> Yes, she has a penis.
>> Okay. And the other one has the vagina.
>> And what's the other one's name?
>> Buck Bu ck. Angel.
>> That's a dude.
>> That has a vagina.
>> Oh, so it's a trans man.
>> Yes.
>> Oh, well I would I mean if I had to I'd rather choose neither, but I'd rather choose Bailey Jay then.
>> Right.
>> Um >> that's the whole point. Like you're attracted to the female what a female looks like. You're not attracted to the actual female >> cuz Buck Angel's the actual female.
>> Well, what does that even Yeah, sure. I mean, what does that even mean at that point? I mean, you know, I >> Well, it's it's it's to show people that they're attracted to what a female looks like, not so much that the fact that they're female. It lets them know that it's okay to be attracted to somebody that isn't your preferred gender.
>> TTS is going on.
>> Yeah. I I don't I mean I like I said I don't know what would happen if once the panties came down and there was a dick there. I might be like I don't think I can I don't know how to feel about this.
I'm turned on and now I'm not. But yeah, I mean just based on looking at the pictures I'm looking at and no one is naked in those pictures. I would say you know uh yeah for sure. Uh the the >> you said you wanted to rate women. So, I got >> Yeah, hang on. If page five uh Thank you, neglected uh very very much. If page five stays high up in Wings's mind, uh yeah, I gotta start looking at page five. People, that's the new thing people, at least to me, in my old man brain. I hear page five constantly. Um Vicker says, "Look how gay for real." I mean, what do you what do you want from me? You I just looked at two pictures.
The transman looks like a [ __ ] Vin Diesel body guy. You should show those pictures to the chat.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Look, check this out. I mean, I I don't I don't know how I should respond otherwise. Um, >> this just feels like we're alienating trans people for content. But if you want to do >> We're not alienating trans people for content. That's not what's we're doing here.
>> Wait a minute. Wait. Well, let's talk about that. I I I am a total trans supporter. I have a trans son. I am LGBT uh as much of an ally as allow me to be.
>> Yeah. It feels like we are sexualizing trans people for the ridiculousness of the position.
>> Uh not because there's like a like a like like a thought experiment here for Jaffy to explore his sexuality. It's look at this very masculine woman or this very feminine man is what the conversation really boils down to.
>> Right. But isn't that that is a thought experiment which is it's got I don't I'm not judging somebody for being cisgender or transgender. I'm saying there are transgender there are trans men uh that look more masculine like that guy than I do and there are trans women >> you're standing on a [ __ ] soap box here tech like this is no different than me going like Ryan Goslin or Brad Pitt who would you rather have sex with this as close as it is >> it's vastly different yeah it's it's >> vastly different explain it >> okay uh why are we identifying these two people for the standard of who I'm trying to [ __ ] Because >> because of the most extreme to illustrate the point of >> of trans representation online, right?
>> No. Of your what you're attracted to is fluid, I guess, is what Jordy's saying.
Because >> conceptually speaking, you can say, "Oh, you're straight." But how can you be straight if you want to have sex with a man, but it's not a man, it's a trans man, which is a different thing. both equally deserving of respect and rights and all that. I don't think that's mocking. I I would never and if unless look, if you're out there and you're trans and you think it's disrespectful, I'm I'm always open to be educated. That would never be.
>> These are not my opinions. I don't give a [ __ ] Judge everyone, call people ugly, gross, disuck. I give a [ __ ] >> But I will say I'm just I'm letting you know what the trans community on YouTube [ __ ] says about the same. This is this exact question, which is the one the wings is asking about these two people. This comes up on a lot of [ __ ] like trans podcasts as like >> I created this question. This question has been around since the beginning of PK 20 years ago.
>> Yes, exactly. Yeah. This question has hit the internet for longer than I've had a credit score. Okay. This is an old question that the trans community has dealt with for generations.
>> Dixon in the chat says, "Says Tech, the guy that dressed as a woman for humor and comedy. So that was okay."
>> Yes, because I'm transphobic. What's the next question? Do you want to be with me? Jeff, if you want to join me in these in the etchelon.
>> The echelon. Define etchelon.
>> Uh well, if you have like a place to like, you know, draw on, you can etch on.
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>> I don't know why Joffy asked me to do this. And Tech's going to hate this next segment then.
>> What do you got?
>> We are. You said you wanted to rate some women.
>> Yeah. I mean, I just want to see I I don't want to I don't want to like I'm I need to rate women. I'm just like I want to see what >> we I picked three women from the LCU. So that's the limitation here.
>> All right. All right. Now, >> and we got to rate one to 10, five being completely average.
>> Are what are we rating on? Just pure. Do you think >> whatever Joffy's scale is, what do you find them attractive or not?
>> That's what I'm saying. It's an attractive rating.
>> Yes.
>> Um I think isn't this Batgirl?
>> This is Angel.
>> Angel who had the baby.
>> Yes. It's a younger picture of her.
>> I couldn't find a better picture that was just her. She's she she's whiter than Michael Jackson when >> Are you sure this is Angel? I work with Angel. That's a black woman on screen is a white woman.
>> Yeah, this is not Angel.
>> I don't know. I might be wrong.
>> But rate this woman. Rate this unknown woman.
>> Magic Tech says, "Why is she white?"
Yeah, I don't I I mean, okay, this un I mean, these are really She's really young, but Okay, if you're just talking pure attractiveness.
Okay, I have to have a I need a bit of information here. Am I rating the Hang on. Am I rating the photo or am I rating what I think of her? Because she clearly is an attractive woman. And if she if she was in a different photo, she'd probably be like a knockout. This photo where she's just like is probably like a six. But I don't think that's really an accurate view of her attractiveness. So, I need to know. I need I need the rules a little bit.
>> How about we go to a different photo and maybe we have a better clarity. All right. Okay. Here's the second one.
I mean, that's AI first off, but I mean, I'm not I don't find her. She's not my cup of tea. That doesn't mean she's not attractive, but for my own personal attractiveness, >> give a number.
>> A four.
>> So, four. She's slightly below average >> to me.
>> Okay.
>> As not as a person, but as just pure visual, it's not my cup of tea.
>> You're going down the slippery slope. I feel you. All right. Last one. No, I just want to be respectful.
Well, her mouth is closed, so I can't tell she has no teeth. Um, four and a half.
>> So, you're rating her higher than the other one?
>> Maybe just cuz I see the boobs.
>> Phantom in shambles in this [ __ ] son.
>> Yeah. Um, >> so so you think the first one, this one is the the best out of the bunch?
>> Oh, yeah. Easily. But again, I don't I don't you know, again, the picture is not. But I mean, again, I and let's be clear about rating women. It could also go the same for men. I'm not going to sit around. Look, anybody who knows me or listens to me knows good and goddamn well. I respect my fellow humans. But I also think people are visual. People are sexual. There's nothing wrong with enjoying that. Um uh wait a minute.
Melissa says, "I'm out. This is trivial BS that women have to put up with on the daily." See you tomorrow. Wait a minute though. I mean, you can go. Obviously, you can go. You do whatever the [ __ ] you want. But do you really think, Melissa Duncan, that it is offensive to just sort of say, "Hey, here's what this guy, >> you know, put up men. We'll rate men.
You guys have a woman come in and rate men from the LCU on the show. I'm down with >> Let me say something. Let me say legit."
Because people accuse me of putting a minor up there. I did not put a minor up there. [clears throat] There's not a trap. I wasn't setting a trap for anybody. I put in angel lcal universe and I was looking through the pictures and that's the only picture that came up under that description that was like a face shot.
>> Who gives this [ __ ] Let's say she's 15.
I don't want to date her. I don't want to be with her. But I can look at >> this is this is the stop of that conversation.
>> I'm so [ __ ] tired. I as a producer, we're just going to that this is a this is >> No, I'm going to at least finish my [ __ ] point or I'm >> then I'm leaving the show.
>> You just love talking about [ __ ] pedophile [ __ ] Jeffy. That's the [ __ ] the question at hand is why >> I because I know how these people are.
Jaffy, what the [ __ ] You know what? You guys are nuts.
>> Yes. Why? You don't have to engage in this. You're choosing to >> check. Please stop talking so I can actually express myself with a full sentence because this is important.
Okay, it is not PDF stuff. That is the problem with you people. I can look at someone I can look and go, "Oh, that's an attractive person. That's an attractive child." Not sexually, you [ __ ] morons. No one's talking about sex, you [ __ ] morons. What is the matter with you people? You guys see pedophiles everywhere. I'm just saying we're talking about the, you know, the visual of the person. You guys are [ __ ] weird. You're the ones that are saying this [ __ ] not me. And I'm tired of it. I'm [ __ ] tired of how [ __ ] this universe is so [ __ ] obsessed with this [ __ ] >> So, like, >> it's [ __ ] weird.
>> If you can show my screen real quick.
This is what this is exactly what I searched and I was looking through and it even says, "Why is tech on local something?" So that >> what do I think the age of consent should be? 18. I'm I don't think it should be younger. Um the way some people respond to older men dating women of age, maybe it should even be higher.
Um I don't know.
>> Yeah. Also, that's not even Angel.
That's just like some >> Yeah, that's right. It is my mistake cuz like I I don't really I only picked Angel and Fa Cheese because they both hit on Jaffy and I wanted him to rate them.
>> Okay. In the side chat is a picture of Angel on screen. Give us a rating.
>> You just told me not to do the ratings.
>> Uh, I just want to clarify.
>> The moment you went from like, let's judge women to let's justify the attractiveness of a 15-year-old. Let's let's just not sexually, obviously. I mean, if you want to have the conversation, [ __ ] it. Everything's like on the table, I guess.
>> No, you guys are weird, man. It's It's so funny.
>> You're fighting a ghost that never put like that idea out there, and you're like, I'm going to stand on business.
That that should be allowed. You should be able >> is allowed. You should have an opinion about whatever the [ __ ] you want to have an opinion about.
>> It's called Can I ask you something? Do you have those opinions?
>> What opinion?
>> The other like Do you go around judging the attractant as a 15-year-old?
>> I don't even notice 15y olds.
>> Okay. So, why fight for it? Like, you don't you shouldn't care. But I only bring it up because Wings said someone thought that Wings was trying to entrap me by putting up a minor and I was saying that's not even a trap. I can look at if you say, "Hey, I'm, you know, casting for a commercial. I want a cute kid to eat the Cheerios." Uh h how could a grown man decide what a cute kid looks like? That's pedophilia. No, that's casting.
>> Jeffy, are you casting?
No, but my point is the I it would be that kind of response. It's not a sexual response.
>> You're putting yourself in a position defending something that you don't engage with and you don't even care too much about. I imagine >> I But what I do care about is freedom >> is freedom, >> which is stupid. You shouldn't fight for everyone's freedom.
>> Really, you shouldn't fight for everyone's freedom.
>> Should you fight for the freedom for people to hate on trans people?
>> Yes.
>> No. There's a level there's a level of tolerance that exists in the world that that breeds intolerance itself. Some tolerance is not acceptable.
>> You absolutely that's that popper definition. You cannot work with that.
It's not >> Yes, I can. I will punch a PDF. Bring me a PDF. I will destroy that.
>> I will as well.
>> Yes, I am not tolerant to the PDFs. I'm not tolerant to the racist. I'm not tolerant tolerant to the trans folks.
>> I Okay, you need to go back into the corner check because I I need >> you know because your little ego is shattered because someone's pushing back against you.
>> I'm not doing this. I you were this was this show don't do it judge. We were able to judge the >> Why are you hold Why are you like this?
>> Because Jeff is doing it to himself and and then he's mad that someone's questioning him.
>> Hey, I thought we just move on. Just move on.
>> Hey, Tech, do me a favor and and judge when the chat's not liking something.
Okay. Hey, you're starting to talk about defending pedophile like ideology or some [ __ ] I'm like, "Hey, let's let's stop doing this." You're like, "I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I [screaming] WANT. YOU CAN'T STOP ME. I'M JAFFY. DON'T STOP ME.
YOU'RE NOT THE PRODUCER. I'M THE PRODUCER. SO, WHAT AM I [ __ ] DOING HERE?
>> I don't know. I honestly >> if I'm the [ __ ] producer and I'm like, let's not defend the attractiveness of 15year-olds, especially with Wings who hates that conversation.
>> First off, the picture that I showed is not of a minor. It is of a young 20 plus year old woman.
>> Maybe. I don't even know who the [ __ ] that is. Wings.
>> Let me go click on the link.
>> Yeah, let's let's discover let's put this in discovery.
>> No, no, no. It's irrelevant and it's distracting from the conversation.
Yes, it doesn't matter. I wanted to move us on from this and you being Jaffy are are biting in and not letting go when the producer saying, "Hey, we should skip this."
>> You think I'M HOSTING THE SHOW BECAUSE I'M JAFFY. I'm not here to be a milk toast [ __ ] I'm here to express myself in the way that I express myself.
If you don't like it, >> okay, your daughter's asking me, "Can you stop talking about the attractions of 15year-olds on the show?"
>> I don't care. That's not what I'm talking about.
>> You wanted to defend it for others. I'm talking about the freedom to express ideas, especially when the culture is so knee-jerk reactive to an idea without hearing the nuance of what the person is saying. No one is talking about sexualizing children, you [ __ ] No one.
That is not what the conversation was about at all. And yet because people are so [ __ ] quick to judge and so terrified of being cancelled, you you you draw back your conversation and we end up becoming a world of idiocracy. That's what we're talking about.
So, are we doing this show with you in the background tech or not? Because if not, I'll just let you and uh uh uh uh Wings do the show.
I'm not mad about it. I'm not upset. I don't mind if you really think you and Wings can have a better show and the audience will enjoy it.
>> Oh my lord.
>> No, I think we're we're at the point where I think Keem reviews this section.
>> It's not about doing every day. Jeffy, can you just make a change?
>> I don't want to be what you want me to be.
>> I think I think even Keemstar would appreciate us not going into conversations about this. Well, it's his network. That's the [ __ ] that we're talking about.
>> Yes. And Keemstar can make a choice and say, "I don't like this guy."
>> Yes, I'm identifying this for you. You make the decision. Do you want to keep talking about defending the rights of people to be attracted or to say, you know, 15-year-olds are attractive to these people, right?
>> NO ONE NO ONE SAID THAT.
>> HOW about we stop talking about it?
You're just making it worse. Let's just move on.
>> I I would love to not to ever talk about it, but Jaffy wants if this conversation comes up, Jaffy's like, "Oh, an interesting topic for my brain experiment."
Yes, because that's what I do. That's >> Or you can ignore it. You can keep going.
>> I don't want to do it like you, Tech.
You've got two shows outside of this one to do it the way you want to do it.
>> You have two shows to do it outside of this to do it. I >> I'm not asking.
>> Hold on. Do you notice Aren't you like always on other streams all the time?
Don't you have another [ __ ] area you can do this conversation in?
>> I don't talk about any other streams I'm on because that was the rule that we agreed to. I couldn't promote other things and that's fine.
dumb hill to die on.
>> I'm not dying.
>> I I want to say this. I didn't try to set anybody up. I went and look for girls in the LCU to be safe because I know all the girls in the LCU are of age.
>> Jordy, I never thought you were setting up. I was responding to the chat that said that's what you were trying to do.
>> That's it. That's it. I just don't want people to look at me like I like I set this up for for somebody have a have a have a crash out or something like that.
I I didn't I did Oh my lord.
Where do we go from here?
>> Well, let's read the super chat, shall we?
>> Okay. Tech, can you read super chats, please?
>> Yeah. Rechie's metal. Tech needs attention. You've been neglecting. True.
Sharkbait. Tech ruins everything. Shark bait. Tech is twisting it on purpose.
Elite zombie player. Welcome to Ban World. Casey Benson. Hey guys, let's please move on. I think we need to talk about multi-dimensions or lizard people.
Thank you. Uh seed seed drink. Uh it's a form of YouTube bullying. They want you to be one. Uh ye. It's fascinating that men will comfortably rate women with when society has conditioned women to look a certain way in order to be recognized positively by society. This is why most women are fed up. Uh, it's just JMO. I think she means IMO in my opinion.
>> You had like women don't rate men based on height.
>> Sure. Uh, hey Krispy. Hey fellas. Really enjoying you guys. Now make me feel a tiny bit special since this is my first ever membership.
>> We already We already did that one. We did that one.
>> Beast of cash. One month.
>> Uh, Big Jono, knock tech out, Jaffy.
Free the grays. I I I will say I will say that the Melissa Duncan thing bothered me a bit because I like Melissa and I I would hate like I go the idea of rating people on their attractiveness. I I think in the real world if you're at work and you're sitting around with your buddies and like the lady in you know marketing walks by and and you're like doing that at work or whatever. But I I think people sitting around in these kind of situations are like they they talk about the people they're interested in or the the gender they're interested in and going that's a seven, that's a nine, that's a four. I mean, it anybody who knows me and listens to this show knows that I don't uh reduce women or people in general to just that at all.
But there is, you know, there is a a level of facade of people that is fun to do and and and if you rate me, I'm not going to be offended by it. But again, I understand that if you're a woman and you deal with this every day, but I would say that's the problem. This should not be something you, you know, deal with every day. Um anyway, okay. Uh where are we at, Jordy?
What do you want to talk about next? Uh the uh we we were done with the whole satisfactions of the death of desire, right?
>> I guess so. Uh tech put up pictures of Angel by the way in the chat, but I guess I won't rate those cuz you know, God forbid uh Angel who shows up. You know, I don't think she would have a problem. Uh >> that that is the same girl.
>> It's not the same girl.
>> No, that is this is a black woman. The one you showed was a white woman.
>> It could be just a shitty picture, though. It's from a Tik Tok judging Angel on the Loco Universe.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, it's from some fan.
>> Okay. They just they're similar looking cuz Angel's a she's a very light-skinned >> Ebony woman.
>> She is.
Yeah. Andrew says Jaffy's an Ohio 7.
I'll take it.
>> So, I'm not I know the women of this are going to hate, but like how does Angel get her eyes to look like that?
What? She has really like big irises. I don't know if you've ever noticed.
I >> You don't You don't Okay, we'll move on.
We'll move on.
>> I mean, I I don't know. I just just her eyes, man. I mean, she's not wearing >> his contacts. Okay. His contacts.
>> Oh, okay. I don't know. I had a guy I had a guy come into an interview once at Sony wearing cat eye contacts and he never acknowledged them. and and we didn't hire him for a variety of reasons, but not the least of which was it's like, dude, I like if you're quirky and creative. I love that. But don't make it weird. Acknowledge, you know, be be normal enough to acknowledge that we know what you're doing and you know what you're doing is not the norm, but don't act like we're just supposed to not have a response to this. And so, yeah, you know, uh, listen to this. Uh, Yeet, thank you for the super chat. I wasn't being specific to y'all on the panel, but you have to admit the patriarchy places more of a judgment position on women's appearance. It absolutely does. It absolutely [ __ ] does. Um, 100%. And it's and it's and it's [ __ ] And I like that women say enough of this. But this kind of goes back to all kinds of things. you know, I get [ __ ] in my video game podcast because people think I don't want attractive women in video games uh in terms of characters. And I say, "No, I can be progressive and a feminist and still enjoy hot women." People are like, "You're the guy that put sex in God of War." I'm like, "Yes, and I would do it again." But you're also the guy that had had Cratto kill his entire family of war.
>> Super shattered $11.73.
Jaffy is an Irish 20. I I think people take life too seriously. Don't take it this [ __ ] seriously. Nobody survives this [ __ ] We all die at the end.
>> We do. But what I'm saying though is it's like I don't know where certain people got the idea that you can't be progressive and a feminist and a supporter of women and also enjoy overt sexuality as long as it's consensual. I I just I I don't know why the camps are if you respect women, you can't also enjoy women at a sexual level. You either have to sort of, you know, be totally like I don't care what she looks like. She could be, you know, just a vagina connected to a brain and I'd still have sex with her in marriage.
You know, it's it's it's just a ridiculous lack of really caring about what they say they care about. both of you.
>> I think everybody can agree that attractiveness and sex is a ingredient to a healthy relationship.
>> Like if you don't if you're not attracted and you're not willing to have sex with your partner, your relationship's not going to last.
>> Well, yeah, but but okay, but what does it have to do with anything we're talking about?
>> Because like women don't dress up sexy for themselves. They they Well, it's a little bit for themselves, but like it's also there to attack the attention of men and to feel like they want the attention of men. It depends what you're talking about. Most women I talk to say that they dress sexy for other women.
>> Yeah, we we've had this discussion before and like that can't be true.
>> Okay. So, the women are just wrong about their motivations, but you're right.
>> It's not that I'm wrong. I'm thinking I'm thinking it's less black and white and more gray.
>> Kind of like Angel, >> right?
>> I understand. Listen, uh thank you Panda Eye for the very generous super chat.
Uh, Monty for one month. Ban world says, "You don't have to show the pic, Jaffy."
Which is ridiculous cuz nobody cares.
It's science. But what were you going to say about the face transplant? I I just thought it was a fascinating picture. Uh that that and I think it's it's it's fascinating. Now, I don't know if you've actually seen what a successful, you know, according to doctors face transplant looks like, but you're talking about people that have had terribly disfiguring accidents. you're talking about people who, you know, just really bad things and then they get a face and it still kind of looks like their face is kind of off and almost like melting off a little bit, but it's way better than it was. And I just think it's kind of amazing that, you know, that we have the ability to do that. I think it's amazing that you could have a loved one that died like that woman in the photo I think of an OD and then you know two years down the road you happen to see her in a shopping mall and you're like oh my [ __ ] god I just think that's wild >> that big mistaked $9.99 dude wings whatever not all women do things for the male gays what an ignorant comment >> I I'm with you I'm with you uh uh big mistake thanks the super chat. I agree >> at bricks scraper super chatted $20.
Hypothetical tech went through his third and found his person in Sarah but Sarah is still working through her third and tech is just a stepping stone to her person. Doesn't this create a flaw in the guy's research? Let me get to that.
But first, Sharkbait, thank you for the super chat. Tech is a two because of his neediness. I don't know, baby. I don't know, baby. Thank you for that. Uh, it's a great question, Brick Scraper. Uh well, okay, let me think about. Yes, you're it doesn't create a flaw um at all because there's nothing in the theory that says your perfect person is going to be their perfect person, right?
So, it could be that for a time when that relationship is working, that is who you should be with. But it's interesting. Hang on. Let me think about this for a minute. I can't believe this dude built his entire career based off of like a motivational saying.
It's like it's a concept, not a theory.
>> Like the concept is just be satisfied with what you have.
>> He was a Nobel he's a mathematician. He didn't build his whole career off it. He just wrote a book and that was one of his books and that was one of his more successful books. Um but yeah, it's an interesting point. Bricks Scraper. Uh I I don't know if the answer would be that if tech had gone through the process properly then finding Sarah would almost in picking Sarah part of picking the right person would include knowing where they were and what they valued and that they he would indeed be that person for her.
But it is a very good point. I don't have an answer for you. So, let me let's text right here. Let's ask him. Tech, if if Sarah fell into your first three possible dates out of 10, and the theory states that you shouldn't have to pick anybody or should only have fun, would you have not picked Sarah?
>> Wait, what's the theory?
>> The theory is like, let's say you go on nine dates, right? And the first three dates, you just have fun. You try to learn what you're going to like about women, what you like in women, what you enjoy in dating, whatever. The next three, four, five, and six are going to be your serious contenders, right? So, you take everything you learn from the first three and you apply it to the next three in the sequence and one of those three will be your true love, right?
Whereas seven, eight, it'll be partner 7, eight, nine are irrelevant in this theory pretty much. They almost could be eliminated >> because you you go on dates with them just to see what you like about four, five, and six. And the idea is you're supposed to just be find somebody that you're satisfied with.
>> So staircasel super chattered $20 women is natural. Women are the most judgmental. Any denial is a lie. No have skill to be. Women are cruel to women. I think angel is way prettier than most.
Lu sad woman emoji. For some reason, this only way get past Sensor.
>> Thank you, Jesse Pizzle. And I agree.
That's what bothers me is this idea that you can't rate the It's like, >> come on.
>> You're messing you're messing your Melissa stuff up again here. Jeffy, >> I like Melissa, but I'm bothered that that she thinks I'm being offensive or anything. I mean, nothing I can do about it. I mean, I'm an >> People have opinions. People have opinions.
>> I know, but I don't like when people don't like my opinions. But that said, I'm not going to lie about it.
>> Yeah. I think the the separation seems to be that like obviously it's a natural thing to judge people based on like aesthetic appearance, especially if you're looking for like a partner that you want to be able to like have a long-term relationship with. Uh but the separation is, you know, this is not the, you know, back alley or the the bar table. This is the worst putting on a show for an audience. And it may not be the right >> LCU.
What if if not here?
>> Is that lower or higher the standard for you?
>> Lower the standard. The whole POINT OF THE YOU GUYS ARE [ __ ] >> You want to lower your standard to the LCU and not be above that standard.
>> What I'm saying is when I come to this show, it is like being at a bar.
>> Okay.
>> And it should be >> make it make it your own. Whatever you want to do. If you want to be the bar, be the bar.
>> I am.
>> Well, we're we're dodging we're dodging tech's question. Tech Sarah falls number three in this group where you you're not supposed to take her seriously instead of number four. Do you still not give Sarah a chance?
>> I don't understand the the hypothetical if I'm being honest. Uh, I I met Sarah when I was [ __ ] 27. All right. I've I've gone through enough dates and enough women and enough experiences to, you know, know what I'm interested in.
So, if you're saying like I've already found what I'm looking for in women through my dates and Sarah's now like my I'm just confused. Like the setup is weird.
>> Well, he's saying that because you've gone through it according to this theory, you've made a good choice with Sarah. But since Sarah hasn't had enough experience as you have, is are you worried, this is Brick Scraper asking, that she will need to date four or five other people to get to her Prince Charming where you've already arrived.
>> Oh, no. Sarah is a a Christian queen and I am her first and only. And that's like the fairy tale that we will go down.
>> How about this? Sarah picked Tech and Tech did what exactly I said. He said if a girl approaches a guy, he's 90% likely going to reciprocate.
>> No.
>> You never had a girl ask you out and you turn her down?
>> Yeah.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, I'll believe you.
>> Again, do I The big [ __ ] [ __ ] energy is not just like for a show. All right.
I've I've been a confident dude my entire life. All right. Everything has been, you know, if I want it, I'll do it.
>> [ __ ] energy.
>> Yeah, the big [ __ ] energy.
>> Oh no. Oh no. [laughter] >> You never learned this term, Jaffy.
>> I've just never thought to apply it to Tech Protect. And I think it's I think it's disturbingly charming and sweet that he applies it to himself. I didn't even think you could apply big [ __ ] energy to yourself. That's got to be given to you. You have to receive.
>> No, that's that's your boyfriend who who applies it to you. Okay, that's that's different. It comes from >> have boyfriends. Okay. Humans don't behave rationally when it comes to dating and serating tech is a good example of that, says Big Jono. You know what? They're a happy little whimsical scuadler uh couple. You be nice now.
Come on now. Come on now. Uh okay. Um All right. Anyway, well, this has been a show so far. I look what's really weird about this show is I don't know how we're going to judge the show because at first it was very Wings and Jaffy just talking and then it got all back heated again and now I'm like so I don't know how to judge the show.
>> Well to be fair our our numbers are up.
>> Okay. Well again yeah there no one is denying that drama in the LCU is going to get the numbers up. We know that.
>> But and and again I'm not kidding. I I hate that there's I hate that there's no way to say this without it sounding passive aggressive. It's not passive aggressive.
>> Let's not go Let's not go back down. We What you said is what you said. It's fine. You You said nothing wrong. People can consider how >> I know. No, I don't mean that. I don't mean that. I mean the idea of going the drama, forget the the topic. The drama.
If that's what we want on this show, that's cool. But I don't want to be on a show like that. And that and I don't >> I think it just happens from time to time. I don't think it has to be the entire direction.
>> Okay. All right. I just >> I mean drama is gonna happen from time to time. You just got to get over the speed bump.
>> Yeah. I just don't want to manufacture it. I can't do that. I'm not interested in that.
>> Trust me, it's not it's not manufactured. You say some out of- pocket [ __ ] that causes drama.
>> It's not out of pocket if you are a freethinker. Uh when are we getting baby Jordy? Says Sergey.
Um, probably never. Um, I have low testosterone, which means I have low sperm count. My wife has picos, which is polycystic ovarian syndrome. So, like her chances of having a baby are very low. We're in our 40s at this point. I mean, baby Jordy is most likely going to be adopted baby Jordy.
But trust me, that kills me cuz my wife wants to be a mother. My wife loves children.
Trippy Savage super chated $10. Ugly people hate it that other people can decide for themselves who they find attractive. Smiley face emoji.
I I mean I I don't agree with that 100%, but I agree with that a little bit. You know, um look, pretty privilege is real.
I don't have it. I've had to work in my life to sort of build up my stats in other areas to to to to compete at various things. That's okay. I I have more charisma than a lot of people. I have more intelligence than a lot of people. Uh I don't have the bone structure of a lot of people that are considered attractive. It's just we're all different. Um >> have you since you and Tech are both relatively shorter than the standard like male height that female find attractive, do you ever feel like your height plays a factor in your dating life?
>> Uh I'm sure it does, but I don't care.
It's never been a factor for me. So, are there women who will probably look at me and say, "I'd like to date him, but I really am only turned on by guys that tower over me." I'm sure, but I don't care. I mean, you know, you can't win them all.
>> So, do you feel like if you get judged by your height, it's okay to judge a woman by her weight?
>> I It's I can't help it. I don't I don't look at a woman that says that's what I'm into as a negative. That's what she's into. If if if you look at me and say Jaffy doesn't tend to like in a sexual way larger women, I I I can't help you with that. That's just the way I am. Sorry.
>> Well, let me let me resurface the question. Men can't control how tall they are. That's just something that's genetically happens to them. Do you think it's fair that women judge based on height versus like getting upset when men judge them based on weight?
>> I think it's absolutely fair. I don't think it has to I think if you're being honest about it and you're saying what do you find attractive I appreciate the honesty. Um whether or not a person can do something about it or not is kind of irrelevant. Fundamentally if you like a big woman and a lot of guys do or you don't who gives a [ __ ] uh if the woman can control or not? If you like a tall guy, who gives a [ __ ] if the guy can make it?
I mean, sorry, that that that's just this entitled male mentality, I think, where it's like, well, you shouldn't judge me cuz I can't do anything about it. And the woman's probably like sitting there going, I didn't say I wanted to murder you. I didn't say I wanted to wipe out everybody under 5'11.
I just said I don't want to [ __ ] you.
Where did men get the idea that every woman has to sort of just spread her legs the minute he expresses interest?
Some guys, nobody said that.
>> But you But yeah, but that is where the That's the implied. Socially implied.
>> Yeah. It's implied like you owe me something. No, she doesn't. She doesn't owe you [ __ ] >> She doesn't owe you [ __ ] The number of men that think women owe them anything.
Blows my mind. Like, where were they raised? And goddamn >> Yeah. Go ahead.
>> I think I I think it's like um how can I say this eloquently? Um, >> yeah. I don't know.
>> Generally when that like testosterone and chemicals go up, men don't think clearly, right? There's a thing called postnut clarity, right?
>> Whereas like you're really into somebody until you don't have all those chemicals in your body no more and then you realize, oh, oh, I I made a situation a lot worse.
>> Okay.
>> So, like I don't think so. I think a lot of this is like like young men having hormones running or raging through their body that feel like, "Oh, I need to spread my seed." I think it's something that happens to us at almost like a biological level more so than a social level. Like I think men just naturally want to spread their seed as far as humanly nature allows them to. I my I I I would say you have a very interesting Jordy Jordan um fixation on the idea of what it means to be a male. You have a lot of checklist of like this is what a man does and this is how a man provides and this is how a man this and I think you think about it to such an extent it makes me ask the question why why >> okay what does that mean >> uh I was raised by my grandparents >> and >> and my grandfather was a very man man right he could lop his thumb off with a with a skill saw he'd take that [ __ ] put in a bag and still finish his project before he went to the hospital to have it reattached that's the kind of that's the I was raised as I was raised as boys don't cry, boys don't do this.
And like what struggles cuz I've always been like a sensitive person. I remember the first ugly cry I ever had was watching Bambi get shot or Bambi's mother get shot.
>> Yeah.
>> And like I remember standing in front of the refrigerator, funny enough, and sitting there crying >> cuz I I wanted to go to food to get rid of these negative feelings that I had.
And this is young Jordy.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> And um I I remember getting scolded by my grandfather because of that. He's like, you know, boys don't cry. Boys stand up for themselves. That kind of stuff. And I really like my grandfather.
I looked up to him. His opinion was important to me, >> right?
>> And like, >> but you're old enough. You're old enough now. You've been old enough for a while to go maybe that messaging wasn't exactly as accurate. I'm not saying there's not some truth in it. There's some truth in it.
>> But I look at it I look at it this way.
It's something that's almost ingrained in my personality. I can't stop it. Like for example, I used to work the night shift 7:00 p.m. to 7:00 in the morning most of my early 20s. I'm 40 now. I haven't worked the night shift for 20 years. I still struggle being awake in the daytime because my circadian rhythm just doesn't allow it because it's been changed fundamentally.
>> Okay. Okay. What does that have to do with the masculine thing? because like I was I was I was preached and brought up in that kind of environment for so long that it's hard to get that person out of it.
>> I see. Okay.
>> It's a condition thing.
>> Yeah. So I I I I think you'd be happier if you questioned that and >> because like there's there's other things I've taken out of my personality because like my grandfather was also things that were negative. He was also a racist. He was a Republican. I used to be a Republican. I've never been a racist. But like I've slowly formed my own opinions on those things. But like it's it's something that takes a lifetime to change, especially when you're conditioned at a young at a young age.
>> Yeah, I get it. I get it. I'm just curious because it does seem to be a preoccupation of like what it means to be a man or what a man is. Um and I'm just curious because I I've never really had that indoctrination. Uh you know, uh listen to this. Jesse Pizzle, thank you for bandwid.
I dated Scott. Is that your husband? I forget his name. I've met him. For his green eyes, olive skin, dark hair, and height. His personality was a bonus. So maybe Yeah, maybe you willed your man into uh uh existence. Somebody earlier, Jordy said, "Uh yeah, Jaffy's going to start look maxing." You goddamn right.
Um no, not even close.
We were talking about um the movie this weekend. What is today?
Wednesday or Tuesday?
>> It's Tuesday, I think.
>> I don't know.
>> It is Wednesday. Holy [ __ ] How' the [ __ ] get Wednesday >> happens? It creeps up on you. Uh we got to figure out what the uh what the theme is this weekend. I mean, I I I think that we need a theme that the audience can actually have. Like when we did documentaries that was nice, but most people don't know more than three or four documentaries just cuz they're not that.
>> We're going to have to narrow it down a little bit cuz like my my the one I want this week is dumb.
>> Okay. Which one is it you want?
>> Black exploitation.
>> Yeah, it's not dumb. I just don't think most people most people would know that you know Superfly and uh Sha >> Harlem Nights.
You mean the Richard Prior movie or the original >> Richard Richard Prior movie? Harlem Nights.
>> That's not black exploitation.
>> Close enough.
>> Because there's black people in it.
That's like saying uh fences with with with James Earl Jones is black exploitation. There's a black guy in it.
>> We we'll change it to Dracula from New York.
>> All right. Well, that's fair.
>> Yeah. [laughter] >> Blackula. Okay.
>> Favorite cult classic says Ye. Poke Gaga says, "Hot take six to seven range with the personality is the move." It's a Yeah, man. I mean, haven't you ever been like turned on by somebody who's not traditionally attractive, but they're still sexy? That's a thing. That's a wonderful thing.
>> 100%. I actually value personality better than looks.
>> Yeah. It depends what you're going for at any given moment, I suppose. Um, yeah. Hey, Anna G. Anna G's in jury duty. Thanks for joining us. Uh, tell the judge to [ __ ] off and tell her I tell the judge I object. Can we make it Black History Month this month?
I >> Dude, I have a I have a very bad Black History Month take.
>> Well, great. By all means.
>> Do you want me to say it? It's not racist.
>> It's not my take. I don't care.
>> It's not It's not racist by any means. I just think Black History Month shouldn't exist. And it And here's why. Right.
Black history is American history. I think they should teach black history like they teach in February where they reg where they segregate and relegate it to one month that you get to learn about it. I think they should teach it year round. I think they should it should be taught right shoulderto-shoulder with like you know the Boston Tea Party, you know, and things of that nature. I don't think we should like regulate it.
>> Okay. But I agree. But let's do that first before we get rid of Black History Month, shall we?
>> Yeah. It's obviously Yeah. I mean, until that happens, let's actually teach real American history and then maybe we wouldn't need a month, right? Or >> I just I just think I think it's offensive that they they they segregated just like while it's like, okay, >> I it it is offensive, but you're you're kind of we don't live in a perfect world. We shouldn't need affirmative action, but we do because we still have a lot of racist systemic aspects of the country.
we shouldn't need a black history month or a gay pride month, but we do because we have a lot of racists and homophobes, right? So, how about the people who are doing the bad [ __ ] which gave rise to the need for the months to begin with?
They fix the [ __ ] and then we can get rid of the the the celebratory months.
>> Tony Leone, it's uh it's every other month but February.
>> What? What did he say?
>> He said, "Where's White History Month?"
Come on. Shut up. [laughter] Shut up. [ __ ] rhetoric.
>> White History Month is, you know how as a white guy, you don't really care if a cop's behind you usually? That's White History Month. I don't give a [ __ ] when a cop's behind me. Um, now again, that's more class-based than race-based, but whatever. Okay. Um, I'm going to I'm going to say I mean, look, audience, what do you want for this movie for this this weekend? Um, do we want black exploitation? I I I don't think you can go wrong with horror. By the way, I want to tell you something while we're trying to figure out what our weekend movie plans are. There is a play I may I I haven't been to New York in a very long time. I love New York, but there is a play that's about to open in New York.
I'm very bothered in LA and I didn't even know it or I would have driven up there to see it. uh based on paranormal activity and apparently it's very very good. It is a horrorbased Broadway play.
I've never seen a play that's horrorbased. Um but apparently it's very chilling and weird and creepy and it's a wonderful time and has great reviews. I I think that would be really really [ __ ] neat. I always wanted to do uh a God of War musical. I think that would be amazing, but you know, I never really obviously got around to doing it. But Paranormal Activity, I would absolutely go see that in the uh in the theater. Um okay. Uh Django Unchained. I think we already watched Jango Unchained. Uh didn't we?
>> No. Well, at least not when I'm here.
Yeah.
>> I've only been here for like two movie nights.
>> Oh, okay. Okay. Well, so what do you guys want? You guys want to do cult classics? Do we want to do horror?
Do we want to do sci-fi? Uh, what do you guys think? What do you guys think?
Maybe tech put up a poll. There you go.
Look at that. Black centric horror, music focused, or cult classics. There you go. Thank you, T.
>> Since the war since the the room board is talking about this, police pull people over based on class more so than based on race.
Well, if you have if you're driving a that's not true.
>> If if you're driving a Dodge Aspen and you got a [ __ ] dent in the fender and you're on you own the spare tire, you're more likely to get pulled over than somebody in the Mercedes bins.
>> I don't think that's true. I think if you're a 20-year-old white guy driving the Dodson or you're a 20-year-old black guy driving a Ferrari, the cop's going to go after the Ferrari.
>> Why? Because why? Because he's going to be like, "Why is a black guy driving that expensive car? Something's wrong here."
>> So institutional racism.
>> Uh I think that's racism. That's not classism. Uh I think classism plays a part. Absolutely.
>> You think?
>> But I No. No. I I I I mean I think a young person driving a very expensive sports car is going to ping a red flag. But if you're a racist cop who pulls over black people disproportionately, I'm sure that's going to really up your red flags. So >> I I look at it this way, right?
Generally, black culture is disproportionately in the lower echelon of earners, right? And that's because this they were set they had weights put on them and they've had to come up out of the basement, right? And they tend and they tend to get held down with institutional racism, right? That's not saying like black people aren't incapable of earning or things like that. It's just that it's a classism thing. If you took white trash, for example, somebody would a busted S10, they're in the same market as that black guy driving the Dodge Aspen, right?
They're going to get at the same clip.
Well, no, you're talking about earning potential, which I would agree with you is is is uh more of a class issue when it but but born out of racism. But I'm just talking about driving and a cop being behind you. Um my understanding, and let me just be clear, I don't have stats to to to back you goddamn right, Andy. I don't have stats to back this up, but it seems correct to say that cops per capita disproportionately pull over black drivers more than white drivers.
But maybe that's not true. Maybe that is absolutely not true. And it's just what I've been as my progressive lefty liberal mind has been conditioned by watching liberal media. I don't know.
>> At oi2 super chated $9.99 would love a movie night where tech wings and jaffy do it. MStech style.
>> I mean, I could we we could try it, but we would need to uh >> so bad as good movies.
>> I'd want to practice a little bit. Like the way they wrote Mystery Science is they would watch that movie in the writer room like three times. Um and they'd get their thoughts and they put their joke. I mean, it it wasn't off the cuff. It was scripted um for the most part. But I don't think we're going to do that. But I think we need to, you know what I'm saying? We need to pick a movie that either begs for conversation or we plan it out. But I'm I'm down with that.
>> I'm down to >> to fight your point just making how like you you feel like cops will pull over a black man more because of institutional racism. Like you don't think a black cop exists that will pull over a white guy.
>> I think I think black cops have been found to be uh I don't know if you can be racist, but prejudice uh if you're black-on-black racist, I don't know. It doesn't matter. It's semantics. But uh I believe >> this goes you said the other day that you that black people couldn't be racist because they they're oppressed.
>> I said black people couldn't be racist to white people, but they can be prejudiced against white people. And I'm just talking semantics, but that doesn't it's it's irrelevant. It's it's What definition do you want to you? I'm not it's it's a waste of energy to get into that debate because it's like arguing about feminism. Well, which wave feminism? It's like, you know what?
Let's just say I think let's let's have men and women have equal opportunities.
Leave it at that. Whatever you want to call it, I don't care.
>> I just look at it this way. Cops will [ __ ] with you when there's less likely chance that you're a judge's nephew or son or things like that or somebody in power above them.
>> How would they know that you're someone's nephew?
>> When when when you drive a Dodge Aspen, you're not a judge's nephew.
Oh, >> I mean like a Dodge Aspen is a really busted car.
>> Pokey Gaga, thank you for the super chat. Cop pulled me over.
Uh, wait. Cop followed me home one day in the Lambo, then asked if I played basketball. When I said no, he asked if he could check out the interior. I said, "No, you don't play basketball." And get the [ __ ] out of here, Pokey.
>> Gaga, aren't you a white dude?
[laughter] >> Ain't no cop asked if you played basketball.
>> Gaga 6'4 plus Mexican.
>> White guys can play basketball.
I mean, you know, not very well, but you know, they're John Stockton disagrees with you.
>> No. And Larry Bird disagrees [laughter] with me, of course. Of course. But on the whole, I do think we see a larger percentage of successful black basketball players than white basketball players. At least in the NBA. I don't know about the WNBA. I only know that Kaitelin Clark woman who I think is magnificent with her skills. But >> you don't know Brian Scallabbrini.
>> Is that a woman? No, it's not a woman.
It's a It's a white basketball player.
>> I'm I'm not saying there aren't white basketball players.
>> No, he was he wasn't good. He wasn't good. Here's the thing with Brian Scallabrini. He's called the white mamba, right? And he is a bench player his whole career. He was just a sub his whole career. And he has a thing called like the scallabrini challenge where he takes on all comers. Just to let you know, like even though as a bench player in the NBA, I'm better than a Eisman Trophy winner doubleNCA player. like he's beaten like professional college athletes like 20 to one and [ __ ] like that just like dunking on them as a bench player in the NBA. Like there's so big of a skill gap between the top college level and the bottom of the NBA.
It's like it it's crazy to see.
Um I gota I got you. Listen to this. Um it it it looks like cult classics may win. Okay. Give me some examples of cult classics then. How do you define that?
How do you like when people start voting on Thursday, how do they define what a cult classic is or Friday or whenever we do it?
>> Well, it means >> it is time to announce the winner. The winner of the poll is cult classics and horror movies.
Both won, >> which means we do another poll because just like the tea party, they shouldn't exist. I know I said that and now I realize that I'm talking about the black centric movies should not exist. I don't mean it that way. I mean, we should remove that from the vote and have either cult classics or horror movies compete. That way, we can come down to a definitive answer.
>> All right, we'll do it real quick if we could. That'd be great. I mean, like, um, Cold Classics got 1% more. Did it just not win?
>> Uh, well, 20, no, 31% of the vote was also on music focused and black centric.
So, now people can decide between two options instead of four.
>> Okay. Um, yeah. Listen, Yeet says Rocky Horror Picture Show or heavy heavy Meg or is that heavy metal? I don't know what heavy Meg is. Yeah. And And Andrew saying Friday is a cult classic. That's what I'm saying. Everybody's going to have a lot of different takes on what a cult classic is. So maybe you just pick something you think the audience will like. How about that? Maybe that's better, but whatever. Um, okay. [music] See, I like the cool classics things >> at Happy Solitude 24,422.
Super shattered $10. The Princess Bride for movie pick.
>> That's a great [ __ ] movie, man.
>> Because it doesn't because it allows stuff like The Princess Bride um you know, The Color Purple and like Jaws can be be a cult classic.
>> I can't fathom wanting to watch The Color Purple with on the movie day.
>> Right. Right. But I'm just giving it giving it out there. Gone with the wind.
I mean, like, who would want that on a movie day? It's like 12 hours long.
>> Okay. Happy solitude. Let's not forget when we do the wheel tomorrow, she has a pickup there already. It's Princess Bride, assuming it fits. Racism in the US was often attached for profit prison labor. That's true, says Sharkbait.
Thank you for the super chat. Especially in the South, black folks were targeted for both social and economic reasons.
Yep. The cops were what originally um at least the cops in the south were built to be slave catchers first. It's it's, you know, it's a thing. And that's what Wings was saying. We could actually [music] do education >> at panderide Irish super shattered $11.73 cult classics are fear and loathing dazed and confused etc. Usually they do not do well in the box office but gained popularity on general release >> like true romance.
>> Yeah, true was a cult classic. Yeah.
>> Okay. I mean yeah they Yeah. I mean I love >> was Howard the Duck and that [ __ ] sucked, >> right? That's Yeah, that's true. Thank you, Panda. I'd appreciate it, buddy.
Y'all should watch basketball. Is is is it the playoffs this weekend? I don't follow basketball. I like basketball, but um anybody know what's happening this weekend with basketball? Is that the uh >> I'm a baseball guy.
>> We're going to go see a baseball game in a couple of weeks. I'm excited.
>> The Padres's.
>> Padres's. Yeah. Yeah. They're playing I don't remember who they're playing, but we're going to go see them. Thank you.
Wings is a PDF for uh the two jewels. We appreciate it, buddy. Uh >> appreciate that one, Jeffy. Oh, come on.
>> You read it for two cents. Thanks, Jeff.
>> Who Who sold slaves to the South? Jeffy, I couldn't tell you. I don't know.
>> Oh my lord. They want you to get you to say it.
>> You know, I'm I I I I can't handle this these just morons. I I I I remember >> I remember Sarah was talking to this guy on one of her debates that she likes to do because she's really good at it. And um she uh she was talking to this guy who was convinced the Holocaust didn't happen. And I'm just like, dude, [music] >> at Beastman 580 Super Shattered $10 South Park, bigger, longer, and uncut.
>> Oh, interesting. Okay, cool. Thank you, Beastman. Appreciate it.
>> Um, thank you for that very, very much.
We'll get that. Yeah. Yeah, it's a it's a film. Um, and the guy's like, "See, there's no evidence there are mass burials." And I'm like, "Yeah, there is." is and I went on her computer and I'm like, "Uh, here it is." And then he just went silent. I'm just It's like if you're going to if you're going to come with the conspiracy theories, have some [ __ ] education.
>> Did he really say that when the Holocaust is like so prevalent?
>> Well, he said that, oh, this death camp, for example, wasn't really a death camp.
They say there are all these Jews that died there, but there's no evidence of that. And I'm like, >> no, there's video footage of them throwing bodies in holes.
>> Well, not Well, that's fake according to him. And I'm like, okay, that's fine.
Here's the aerial footage where they have basically pinged the ground and they're showing you the mass graves at that death camp. What else would you like to talk about? And he just shut the [ __ ] up cuz why don't you just admit I I not that they need my respect or want my respect, but I would have more respect for them if they just said, "You know what? I've been conditioned because my dad had a hard life and he blamed it on the Jews for whatever reason, or I've gone down a right-wing rabbit hole that is uh indoctrinating me in order to sort of brainwash me into doing their bidding. Just admit you're racist or anti-semitic or but but don't >> Amazing Maisy super chated $10 America World Police.
>> Is that what it's called? The the puppet one? I don't think it's called It's called America World Police.
>> Yes.
>> I don't think that's what it's called.
>> I love that movie. Amazing Maisy.
[music] It's a great pick.
>> It's Team America World Police.
>> Team America. Team America.
>> Cents. This is England.
>> We haven't We haven't even gotten to one.
>> This is for tomorrow, but we'll get these on the wheel.
>> The p the poll hasn't even finished yet.
>> Are we doing cult classics or horror movies? The poll is still going.
>> We don't know yet. We don't. Yeah, >> it looks like they want to do Cold Classics.
>> This is winning. This is England >> apparently.
>> This is England.
>> Yeah, never ending game. We didn't launch this. These guys maybe were sick.
Let's do this. We have like five minutes left. I want the chat now to talk to me and Wings and Tech about how today's show went. We tried to do it a little different.
>> They loved it.
>> Yes. But I would like them uh uh to talk about it so we can kind of get some education. So when we make some decisions about how to make tomorrow's show, we can use this as data. So what do what do we guys think? What >> while the chat talks about it? Uh I do want to say we have Pulp Fiction from Serge and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind by Big Mistake from last week. Uh, seems well >> at via super chated $50. Jeffy, I tune in for you.
>> I tune in for you, too, baby. I love you so much. I love you so much, baby. I love you so much. I'm going to come back for you. I'm going to come back for you.
Thank you so much, buddy. That's very, very kind and generous. Thanks, bud. Um, what were you saying, Tech, about Pulp Fiction? Oh. Uh, Serge and Big Mistake made a donation last week for the movie wheel. I still have it written down. So, uh, so far >> ogre. Ogre died.
>> Rock shattered $10 if we're doing cult classics. Revenge of the nerds. Ogre just died. Film is notoriously not available anywhere for stream or purchase anymore thanks to #meto.
Luckily, it's up on internet archive.
>> Oh, no. I didn't know Ogre died.
>> No. Yeah, he died yesterday at 71 years of age.
>> Rocker Matt, did you suggest a film that's going to be hard for us to [ __ ] find?
>> Well, let me see. Let me see if I can find >> uh anyways, what I was saying was Pulp Fiction and Eternal Sunshine. Those two, Surge and Big Mistake donated. I kept track of it. That's already on the wheel for this upcoming week uh or this weekend. Uh, currently have Princess Bride, South Park, America, World Police, This is England, and Revenge of the Nerds. So, we're already keeping track, but we're doing this tomorrow.
Tomorrow's the big movie day wheelshit.
>> Yeah, we'll we'll we'll we'll circle back on these. But uh if it turns out, Rocker Matt, we can't stream from the internet archive. We'll need another pick, but we'll we'll let you know uh tomorrow because it sounds like there may be a way to do it, but we'll we'll let you know. Um >> I actually do have a source for the movie, so it'll be f it'll be fine.
Okay. Okay.
Uh, okay. Well, there you go. Uh, dress up as Dragon Ball Z characters. I don't think I will, Mafioso, but thank you for that, buddy. Love the show Wings Makes It Better Being Here. Thank you for the laughs, Mikester. Cash Cow, thank you, buddy, for two months.
>> Oh, I saw Kids as a movie. That movie.
Um, I didn't like it very much.
>> Isn't that the movie where the kids like kill the adults? Like not like Children of the Corn and like the adults like get tired of and they go killing the kids.
>> No, I don't think >> that's Kids at Play. That's Kids at Play.
>> No, Kids was a movie kind of just about New York kids in the '9s. Black and White Cinema Verete kind of kind of thing. Um uh Okay, I'm reading the uh The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club was great.
>> So So who's going to vote for Gumo?
>> I don't even know what that is. Rocky.
>> No. Rocky War Picture Show. Never seen a racer ad either. I'd love to see Rocky War Picture Show, though. Um, you know, uh, Jaffy and Wings win. Gumo is great.
64 Minutes was great. Wings needed to be more careful in what he chose to bring up. Jaffy and Tech Bump Heads Bad got better. Um, Pretty and Pink 16 can. Those aren't cult films, but I'll I'll allow it. Um, no. Revenge of the Nerds has an R scene.
They spin it. It was a happy accident.
Well, I mean, all a lot of those movies don't are are offensive to today's times. I mean, you know, there's rape in 16 Candles. There is there's, you know, raping a woman who's asleep, but it was played for laughs and you can still stream that. It was a different time.
And I don't know. I don't know. But certainly Revenge of the Nerds is I believe the reason they said you can't stream Revenge of the Nerds or they they found it offensive now is because again it's this guys tricking some woman into sex or something or >> Yeah. Jeff I said before >> Go ahead.
>> Hold up. You said you're saying they can't do prevention nerves because of that but there's spit on my grave >> which is a movie about men raping a woman and her getting her get back. We have a we have to redirect. Uh last 10 seconds everybody.
Jeffy.
>> Yes. Thank you for watching fellas.
Thank you for all the support. We'll see you tomorrow. We appreciate it.
>> Wings.
>> Love you. All right. Thank you so much.
All right. Make sure to uh comment about us in the Discord. Uh [ __ ] on me in the Discord, please. Uh please uh tag me.
Also, use my name, Techprotect. Uh if you want to [ __ ] on me uh anywhere on YouTube or Reddit or wherever. Okay.
Thank you so much. Bye.
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