Hurricane season preparation is essential regardless of forecasts, as El Niño conditions typically reduce hurricane activity but do not eliminate the threat; the most critical factor is understanding that hurricane tracks, not just storm numbers, determine risk, with October being particularly dangerous for Florida's west coast as storms can develop in the northern Caribbean and track northward.
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How you doing everybody? It's a Thursday night edition of Dennis Phillips Live.
Welcome.
So, I've had a busy day. We I started over at Hillsborough County and you can kind of see right here. We had the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office and we did a a little bit of a hurricane season outlook.
Talking about how folks prepare and this is something that that we often discuss.
You know, emergency management folks and law enforcement, you know, they're obviously working on everything that they have to do, but at the same time they're worried about their families.
You know, they're concerned how is it that they're able to do their jobs knowing full well that they're going to be worried about their families if they're not taking care of and that's something I think a lot of folks forget.
So, we kind of discussed that a a good bit tonight or today at at the Sheriff's Office and then of course gave the outlook. And this is prime time for hurricane season expos and I was in Pasco County in Shady Hills at um the expo last Saturday and we've got one coming up in Dunedin. We've had one in in Polk County. They're all over the place and this weekend we have one with Palm Harbor and one of the people who will be there my buddy Mike Boylan who is on the right side of your screen and Erica Lifford is on the left side of your screen. Guys, welcome to Dennis Phillips Live.
Yeah, we're watching the Rays. Remember how you used to watch the Rays Dennis when you did your lives? I'm doing that now. I Yeah, we used to we used to do Yeah, real time and boy, the Rays are hot. I mean, I I they've won like what?
Six, seven in a row?
It's crazy. We're up two to nothing already in the first. It's crazy.
Against the Red Sox. Yeah, this is a big four game series, man. So It's huge. So So, Mike, where are you?
Where am I? Yeah, where are you? Yeah, I'm at Whiskey Wings here in Oldsmar.
It's kind of our little local joint. Uh we love to watch the Rays here and they have it on all the TVs. Brian's a great manager.
All the props to him. Sarah gets to dance. They have a band every night of the week it seems like, so she's out there dancing and it's kind of our home away from home. Nice one.
>> Cheers. Uh so so Erica, um we were talking earlier about um Mike and I are going to be uh kind of hosting a kind of a Q&A session going up. So, tell the folks who are watching a little bit about the Palm Harbor Bra Expo, what they can expect, the times, and all the details.
Sure. Well, Dennis, first of all, thanks for asking me to be here. We are very excited. I think this is our fifth year of hosting a Hurricane Expo at the Palm Harbor Community Center. And for those of you who don't know, it's um on 16th Street right behind Palm Harbor University High School. And it'll run from 10:00 to 1:00 and around 11:30, give or take, my two buddies here, the weather gurus I call them, Mike and Dennis, will uh have an opportunity to answer questions and um relieve everyone's anxiety hopes uh here of a a Q season. I won't say that word. We're not allowed to say that word between June and and uh November 30th. But we've got a ton of people coming out anywhere from roofers, window people, uh insurance folks, people from Pinellas County come out, uh public works, consumer protection, Red Cross will be there as well. They're going to be speaking right before you guys around 11:15. We'll have uh some snacks available. Uh we provide a little bit of food and tons of giveaways.
Chainsaw, uh pole saw, we've got a a water uh like a sump pump for flooding help, and a lot of the people that are coming out that are attending sponsors and whatnot have brought door prizes.
So, there's chances to win all day uh that we'll do at the end of the uh afternoon and like I said, it's going to be a great 3 hours with tons of information, for sure. Yeah, and Mike, we've done this before. I mean, you've been there for several years as well. By the way, Erica, Kelly Snow says hi.
She's on the uh on the comments, blowing up the comments. So, she's uh she's >> is. Hey, Kelly. Let's go, Erica. And she said she'll be there as well, live, I think at 11:30. So, um So, Mike, you know, I we've been there for a couple of years and you brought out the family last time that we were there. So, I mean, what what are kind of the some of the questions that you run into more often than not when you go to expos like this?
Well, I think the talking points this year is El Niño. So, I I think we'll get a lot of questions on that and uh what that means. That seems to be the number one question everybody's been giving me right now.
Um you know, how many names we're going to have, you know, and and you you and I think so much alike when it comes to things about it only takes one. So, I you know, I really like to stress the importance of you know, let's not focus on the names. We've had storms and El Niño's in the past and you know, and El Niño for Florida looks like it could be busy fall winter, you know, so I know that's a big question. Um That's pretty much it. I I think, you know, maybe risk, you know, uh having a kit, you know, evacuations.
Maybe a lot of new folks are are a little bit more worried about things, you know, they should be preparing for now.
So, I'm you know, hopefully we get some good questions from from some of those folks. And the older residents, natives like me, I always tell them, you know, hey, let's not be stubborn. Let's not uh think last year was quiet and it's going to be another quiet year, you know, because we we're all too familiar with 2024 and how bad it was.
Erica, it's funny because um you mentioned the Q word. And whenever I say quiet, everyone is like, we don't say it. I was watching the pit. And well, actually, it's funny because a lot of people say, I live in the I work in the healthcare field and we never use the Q word. We never say that word. And I was watching the pit. I was binging the pit last week. And sure enough, there were a couple of episodes where they reiterated that. They're like, we do not say the word quiet. One guy did, and then they had a ton of patients go in. So, Now, you heard Mike.
He just said it twice, so it's Mike's fault.
I don't know.
I always use I always put a K. So, put a K in front of it. Quiet.
>> [laughter] >> So, who what are some of the vendors and and what are some of the the the groups that people will be there? Cuz I mean, I I think that's when I when I went to the expo for the last couple of years, I mean, it really is a little bit of everything. So, for folks who have no clue how to prepare, I I kind of feel like you've kind of got something for everybody.
We do. Um this year, more than this is probably our largest participation from different vendors. I know we've got a couple different roofers coming out, a couple different tree guys coming out, window vendor. We've got a couple of people coming out that do you know, helping with filling out paperwork if you're still struggling from 2024 with I mean, believe it or not, we at Parks and Recreation had damage from Helene.
We had and just finally got some reimbursement from FEMA. So, there are people still out there that didn't get back in their homes yet or still struggling with insurance claims. So, um there'll be some people there, some adjusters that can help with that. And like I said, a lot of Pinellas County will come out with their different departments. The Sheriff's Department will be there. The Fire Department will be there.
And then we'll have I believe there's a couple of private insurance companies coming out. Um I think Lowe's is showing up this year. They've not attended in the past, so that's a new addition to the family. And I think we're touching almost 40 different tables worth of of people that'll be there. Red Cross is there, and and I don't know if the people know that. I didn't know this until I actually attended over in I believe it was in Oldsmar, and I learned that Red Cross will come out and put in brand new smoke detectors in your homes, and they're 10-year smoke detectors at no cost to you. You just have to sign up at their table and it's a great service because as a local fire commissioner as well, that's near and dear to my heart.
Saves a lot of lives to have working fire you know, smoke detectors in the house. But there is a Yeah. So, you just have to actually register. My daughter actually received that in Tarpon Springs a few years back when she registered. So, it is true.
It's not made up.
Yeah. So, want to throw out one other thing and this has nothing to do with the expo, but I was excited about it.
So, did you and I'm this may be second hand, but I think it's right. Did you guys hear that at Divine's on Saturday, they're going to have a JJ Gandi's pop-up 10 out there and they're going to have cookies and pies?
I didn't hear that. It's what I heard.
Now, I wouldn't swear to it, but I went on their website and I think I remember seeing it was this Saturday. They are going to be over at Divine's, which is a a local brewery just up the street, literally just up the street from the rec center and and they're going to have some of their pies and cookies. That's what I heard. So, you don't quote me on it, but trust me, I will be checking that out and I will too have a 10.
I'll be there. I'll buy the brewery. You get cookies, I'll get the beer. And I'll bring you Dr. Pepper.
Everybody that knows I'm coming said, "Make sure I bring you diet Dr. Pepper."
So, I'm looking forward to it. You know, we've never done this Dennis. You know, a lot of people think we hate each other and we we always have fun on the side in Turkey season uh laughing behind the scenes of what some people think, you know, and for us to be on stage, I'm still excited.
Uh I'm going to have somebody record it cuz I actually think it's going to be worth reshearing um and I'm I'm really looking forward to the conversation with everybody and encourage people to ask us questions and hopefully it's a lot of fun.
Yeah, I mean, people think what they want to think. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I have said that, you know, I I I've I'll say it again. You know, Mike is someone who is the first to admit he never received formal meteorology education. He's self-taught and he's learned from having a passion.
And I And I tell my kids, there is nothing better than American dream that shows somebody who loves something so much that they they do their research, they do their work, whether or not they go to school for it or not. And And you know, weather is one of those things that in my opinion the message, how that message is presented is every bit as important as the message itself. And you know, I I think that's why some Mike and I have talked about this a lot. You know, some people certain styles resonate with and some other people just have different styles. And And you know, I I've known Mike for gosh, it's been over 20 years that we were part of that group in the back in the uh the old days. So, yeah, I I I anybody who thinks that doesn't know what they're talking about. I mean, at the end of the day, I I anybody who has their dream and their passion and follows it and finds a way to make a living doing it, hey, I massive props. And And by the way, I did see that you were talking about your your storm chaser has gotten some upgrades this year as well.
Y'all have it Oh, we got to do a picture. I'm going to have it at this at the Palm Harbor Expo, everybody. So, please come out and take a look at it.
I'll have it on display. You can take a pic, sit in the seat, hit some buttons.
Uh and it's always a lot of fun. We're We're going to have a good time. Erica is a great lady and Palm Harbor's You know, you live there.
I I grew up in Palm Harbor. A lot of folks don't know this, but I went to school off Nebraska. I rode my bike up, you know, every day to Palm Harbor middle school. And yeah, so it was you know, Palm Harbor is near and dear to me just as much as Oldsmar is. So, I'm looking forward to seeing everybody.
Well, it'll be a blast. Erica, remind folks exactly the time and the place and is there a website or any place where they can get more information?
Absolutely. It is our website is phparksandrec.org.
The event is going to be Saturday, May 9th from 10:00 to 1:00 at the community center. It's on 16th Street. The address is 1500 16th Street. It's right behind Palm Harbor University High School. You can't miss us. Um if you Google Palm Harbor Parks and Rec, you'll find it and the Hurricane Expo's all over social media. Thanks to Calista Snow. She's our social media guru um as you can tell by, you know, her shouting out to you, Dennis.
>> the comments, yeah. Lots of comments.
>> Of course she is. But, you know, Dennis, we we love you in Palm Harbor. We know we can always count on you during hurricane season and Mike, you've sure grown to to be loved in Palm Harbor as well even though you're that old smart guy, but we know your dad lives right down the street from us. So, Palm Harbor's always part of your heart.
Well, look forward to to seeing you guys on Saturday. What time are we talking again cuz we were just discussing this?
11:30? Yeah, you guys are going to go 11:30 after Red Cross is done. She's going to go around 11:15. Okay. Awesome.
All right. Well, we'll see you guys on Saturday.
Sounds great. Thanks for having us, Dennis.
>> Thanks, guys. We'll see you on Saturday.
Have a great night. All right. Take care. Bye.
So, there you go. That was awesome. Um that was literally spur of the moment. I I I reached out to Erica earlier today and um and then I literally texted Mike like 15 No, actually Mike texted me. He's like, "What time are we going to be on on on Saturday?" I go, "I'm not sure. I want to sleep in cuz I've been getting up really, really early with the lot of the events that I've been doing and I and so I said, "Hey, do you want to be on the show?" He's like, "Well, I'm at Whiskey Wings." I'm like, "That's fine with me." So, um and you know, that's Mike. So, anyway, so we will see you guys hopefully on Saturday.
Look, there are a lot of hurricane expos this time of the year. Um someone asked about Hernando County. I know there was one or is soon to be one in Hernando. I think actually Greg Dee might have been there.
They're all over the place and with good reason.
Because look, you know, we have been saying now for the and Mike touched on it as well. Like and I talked about this yesterday.
We know that there is an El Niño coming.
That there is no debate.
To what degree and and again, for folks who want to know, in fact, you know what? I'll go ahead and take the graphic yet again cuz I've shown it many a time, but I kind of showed these graphics today at the uh Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office as well. Um so, all an El Niño is is when you have an area of warmer water.
Loading this map here.
There we go. All right, so go ahead and take the graphic so you can kind of see it.
All right.
So, when you have this area of warm water in the Pacific, all right? And for many in many ways and many factors, it moves.
And sometimes replaced with colder water and then sometimes that warmer water ends up right off the coast of South America. Now, it actually got its name because El Niño was is um means the Christ child and this used to happen where they the fishing the the fishing catch, if you will, around Christmas time would often take a hit and and not do as well. And the fishermen named it El Niño because it happened around Christmas time and that coincided with all the warm water that was coming in off the coast of South America. So, when it is there, a couple of distinct things happen. One of which is as Mike referenced a couple minutes ago, it has a huge impact on our weather. You can argue it has a bigger impact on our weather in the winter time than it does during hurricane season.
Because what happens is it energizes the subtropical jet stream.
The subtropical jet is the jet that often creates strong low pressure in the winter time and brings severe weather across the deep south and into Florida.
So, when that subtropical jet is very active and that's what usually happens when El Nino with the upper level winds, you have a much wetter and stormier pattern. So, like I've been saying, if that El Nino and and first of all, the forecast of El Nino are not on all or nothing. It isn't like, okay, well, we just absolutely 100% know it's going to happen.
Models are really all in on it this go around, but how long it lasts, how strong it gets, that is still very much up in the air, literally. Figure No pun intended. I mean, it can be a little weaker, it could be a little stronger, but if the Euro is correct, it's produ- it's forecasting a massive El Nino, 3 to 4° above average, which when you see that, almost always it leads to a a very wet fall, late fall, winter for the Southeast. So, if this El Nino is in place, what you see there, and it isn't just Florida, it's the entire Gulf Coast all the way from Texas and in the four corners areas, and you can see that.
And it is not cold, by the way, it's warm. So, usually that means it's a very stormy and wet winter. We had one a few years ago, it was awesome in the sense that we got a ton of rain.
And that's what we need, obviously.
In the summer time, what it does, it disturbs the upper level winds and limits, doesn't completely It it inhibits. It inhibits the development of hurricanes by preventing them from flourishing and building up because the tops of these developing systems get cut off.
So, usually during a hurricane season, the overall numbers of named storms will be lower. That's the important thing to remember. I'm not saying Florida will not get four hurricanes.
I'm saying because let's say NOAA will come out with their prediction at the end of this month. I would bet my bottom dollar they're going to be either be 12 to 16 or 11 to 15. They're going to be somewhere in that area, right?
So, there will be fewer than average and fewer than we've seen historically over the last 5 years.
But, that doesn't mean zero. And you can absolutely, positively still see her and will see hurricanes develop.
Now, will they develop and threaten the US? Nobody knows, nor do we know any year. We can say there's going to be 50 named storms, but that doesn't mean that we're going to say have any idea whether they're going to hit the US or not.
Historically, if you look at the stats, an active El Niño year when there's more storms typically that develop, usually the Outer Banks of the Carolinas have a higher risk. Usually, the Southeast has a higher risk. The Gulf, there's really not a big difference one way or the other in terms of the statistics.
Same thing with an El Niño. All right?
So, even though we're probably going to have an El Niño and it's probably going to be a busy winter that doesn't and less active in the summer, that does not mean we will not be threatened by a storm. So, that's why these expos are so important to help you prepare, especially for folks who are new to the area. In the month of June, right off the bat, we've all been saying, "Wouldn't it be nice" not all of us, but many of us have been saying, "Wouldn't it be nice if we had a weak tropical storm that would bring a track like this and bring us a soaking rain." Because that can happen. That can absolutely bust a drought. It absolutely can. It happens often. And almost always these storms are weak because the energy in the water has not warmed such that that it turns into a a significant hurricane threat.
But usually just a big rainmaker.
Honestly, that's probably what the doctor ordered. Whether or not we see that, you know, who knows.
But the message I want to go to you as you as you look at July, and then you look at August.
And and the thing I always bring up, look at where the most And this is a perfect example of why it is not how many storms form, it's where they hit.
Look at where the most common tracks are in the month of August.
Look at the orange. Look at the red.
Now look in September.
Look at the orange. Look at the red.
Where are the most common tracks?
Offshore.
The most common hurricane tracks don't even make landfall in the US.
So, that's why, regardless of whether or not you have a lot of named storms or you have a few named storms, it is not necessarily how many form, it's where they form. And when we go into October, that is the track that historically is a bigger threat for our area on the west coast of Florida.
Because a storm can and often does develop in the northern Caribbean and then take a trip north, hits a trough or a front, kicks right, and goes into central Florida.
Doesn't happen that often.
Last major hurricane, you can make the argument was 1921.
Some folks say that Milton was a major hurricane making landfall in the Bay Area. You can make the argument Siesta Key I would argue is probably not the Bay Area. Um I think it's a little bit farther south. It's more Sarasota than the Bay Area. Regardless, the point the point is it is not how many develop. In my mind, that's meaningless. I don't like Long-range forecasting is a waste of time in my opinion.
I don't think it means anything. I don't think it does a public service. I think if their prediction is low, then people are going to predict are going to prepare less and not be ready if one does come their way.
So, ultimately, the point is when we get a storm and then in November you still have a northern Caribbean more in the Bahamas because why would it be farther south?
Because fronts move farther south in November.
That's the kicker, right? So, when you look at an October track into Central Florida, that's because that's more than likely where fronts can make it.
November, fronts make it all the way down into the Keys. So, they're more likely to have a track down here through the straits and into the Bahamas.
The Saffir-Simpson scale, some some folks have been saying why don't we have a six? I mean, you could make the argument if you look at that scale, Melissa would have been a six if such a such a thing existed.
I mean, I get it. I see both sides. I don't disagree that numerically speaking, maybe a six was makes sense.
But, if you're being threatened by a five or a six, do you really care? Is there much of a difference? If you're hearing 165 mph winds, whether the people say whether there's a five on that or a six on it, the end result is the same. You're going to take it seriously. So, I don't know. I think it kind of I don't think it kind of makes sense.
And and David's asking about this hair and dust. And and that is absolutely a Oh, we have a psychic Okay. All right.
We have a ban coming. I did not know I have not been looking at the comments.
You know me, I get on my soap box. Let me look at the psychic reading person.
Here they are.
Um, let me see. Oh, there it is. No, wait a minute. I'm seeing you guys' comments, but I'm not seeing theirs. Oh, there it is. There it is.
Free psychic reading, no charge.
Gone.
Goodbye.
Haven't used the ban button too much lately. Haven't really had to.
Most people are kind of get what we're doing here. But, uh Yeah, they are gone.
Um Is there anybody else?
Yeah, Michael mentioned that Andrew hit during El Niño. It did, but it was a weakening El Niño. It was almost more neutral by the time we got to August and Andrew. But, yes, it was an El Niño year.
Um Carissa, how you doing?
My favorite PSU grad. How are you doing, Carissa? Good to see you.
Um Yeah, I you know, Well, you know what? And Lynn, see, major, okay, it's somewhat semantics. A major hurricane by definition is a category 3 hurricane or higher.
By definition. So, when you hear us talk about a major hurricane, that means cat 3. I get it.
You know, if people have 95 mph winds and trees go down and there's problem, that's major to them. I Absolutely, you are correct. But, per the Hurricane Center, a major hurricane means cat 3 or higher.
All right. So, what else we got? Um And again, this is the timeline.
Obviously, the peak of the season is from August to October.
Not a lot usually in June, typically very weak. Not a lot in July.
Once we hit the second half of August, things ramp up usually.
September, we peak out. A third of all named storms are in September.
And then in October, that's usually when the the transformation goes from the Atlantic to the Gulf.
And once the storms go in the Gulf, um that's obviously when when we have a bigger threat for our area.
So So that's about it. I mean, here I have this graphic which is said today. I I got to change that. You know what? What if I can change that right now?
Stand by.
Let's see if I can change this graphic and get rid of that today little thing.
If I can find it. Um let's see.
Yep.
Where is that?
And then go hide.
There we go. It's gone.
Save.
And it's gone.
It's magic. All right. So anyway, So that that was just kind of what I wanted to talk about. Um lot of hurricane expos. Unfortunately, not a lot of rain.
If we're looking at the forecast here, let's go ahead and take a look at the Euro real quick. How you doing, Ryan?
Good to see you.
I'm going to call up the 7-day as well real quick cuz the streamers are about to go.
Let's see.
Where is it? Where is it? Where is it?
Uh right.
All right, right there. Okay, so the Euro This is Oh, this is next week. That's not good.
That's not what I want.
All right.
Here we go.
So there No, that's next week. No, that's right. That's right.
All right. So there's Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon, Saturday night, Sunday morning, Sunday afternoon, Sunday night, all that rain up north.
And then finally by Monday, whatever's left starts to come through and we have our chance of rain.
Not a great chance, but it is something.
And again, 7-day rain chance only about 10% little bit better Citrus County tomorrow, but otherwise uh we're not expecting much rain until that chance on Monday. So streamers, thanks for watching. We'll be back tomorrow night with our next edition of Dennis Phillips Live. Hope to see you tonight at 11:00 on Tampa Bay 28 News.
All right, streamers are gone.
Um So yeah, so let's go back to the 7-day real quick.
Highs in the low 90s, mid 90s inland rain chance is only about 10%. Sharon in Maine, how you doing? Good to see you.
Monday is the best opportunity for some rain as we were showing you kind of with the Euro.
And we will go back.
Oh, you know what I did not show?
I did not show the video of the Hurricane Expo.
There it is.
So I'm doing some I don't know what I was doing here.
Not even sure what I was saying.
But this was the Palm Harbor Hurricane Expo a couple years ago. Oh, look, there's Erica.
>> Oh, I thought there was audio with her, but I guess there's not.
I just plugged in. So, yeah, this is a look at what what was going on out there.
And as you see, it is a family event.
And yeah, they I mean, Mike was right over there on the right in the back, I think. Like right back there on the right side. Um but yeah, it's in that it's in the main area right there, and you've got all the different groups, and it's just good information.
And lots of free stuff. Lots of free stuff.
You know, the guys, I'm going to be totally honest with you. You know, we're getting mixed signals, mixed messages about this summer.
You know it's the rainy season. You know that we are going to see rain, but the key to our summer forecast is the wind direction.
The prevailing wind direction is always the most important feature. If we get more of a southeast wind, then we're going to be just fine with rainfall after a couple of months.
But when we set up with more of a westerly wind, that bypasses the coast, and most of the rain is east of I-75.
Sometimes high pressure sets up, locks in, and gives us a beautiful southeast wind for weeks on end. Other times, you get an east coast trough that comes in and gives us more of a southwesterly flow, so the coast misses the rain.
And that is just really, really the key to everything, and and honestly, that that's the key to all those forecasts.
So, I Answer to your question is, I don't really have an answer because we don't know 4 weeks in advance. The models show, they do show, but they're just not very accurate on what the overall long-range pattern's going to be.
So, it's kind of a wait and see, and it changes week to week. I mean, you know, sometimes we have a westerly wind, and we get inland areas. Sometimes we get a southeast wind. The hope is we get high pressure, Bermuda high, lock it in, such that the position is we will have a southeast wind and get a lot of rain.
But, um Wait a minute. Erica just texted me about the JJ Gandys thing.
See if I was making it up or not.
Uh I was not making it up. Ha!
It is at Dybine Brewery from 7:30 a.m.
to 1:00 p.m.
on Saturday.
And they are going to have I don't know. They're having something.
I'm I'm I'm positive they're going to have a little They said they were going to have like a little pop-up tent.
So, there you go.
So, I'm I read it somewhere. I don't know. I did. It was on their site, I think, truthfully.
All right, so that's JJ Gandys Pies. All right, guys, I'm going to go get some dinner.
Um Maybe if you shower Citrus County tomorrow, maybe a quick thunderstorm.
The weekend looks dry and hot. We got a lot more expos coming up. Next week, I'm gosh, I can't remember. There's a lot.
There's a lot of things we're doing. And then, of course, the Crooked Thumb on Sunday, the 24th, I believe.
Yep, Sunday, the 24th is our meet and greet when the Crooked Thumb in in Safety Harbor. It's going to be debuting this year's Rule Number Seven Pale Ale with our fundraiser, our meet and greet.
It is a blast. It's fun. There's kids there. There's all sorts of stuff. We We usually have our merch as well, where we donate proceeds to charity. It's a lot of fun. That's going to come up I I 3:00 on Sunday, the day before Labor Day, and um and that's all I got.
So, you guys have a good night. Thanks for watching, and we will see you tomorrow. Hopefully, I'll see you on Saturday in Palm Harbor at the Hurricane Expo. Have a good night, and I'll see you in tomorrow night's edition of Dennis Films Live.
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