🤯 Sarah Boone BREAKS DOWN Why She Said NO to the Plea Deal + Florida CO TELLS ALL ‼️Prison Tea ☕🚨

Ajouté : 2026-05-22

[00:00:00]Welcome back. Welcome, welcome. While Sarah Boone waits for understanding, we are going to dive into what she thought about the plea deal in her own words. A juicy email from a correctional officer right there in Florida and Alex Murdo.

[00:00:18]Becky, I hope you have your medical snacks.

[00:00:21]Let's get this party started. This is good. Oh, get ready. Okay, the subject is you don't know what really happens in here. Danielle Danny, I've gone back and forth for weeks about sending this email. I work inside a Florida prison.

[00:00:44]I'll leave that up to you to guess.

[00:00:47]I won't say which one. I won't give my name. If this ever got traced back to me, my career would be over before sunrise. know that. And honestly, that's the least of what could happen. Anyway, I found your channel late night watching some true crime stuff. Most people outside these gates think prison is just bars, uniforms, and people quote unquote doing their time. That's not what this is. This is survival. Florida prisons are different. People on the outside don't understand how dangerous it becomes when there is no parole.

[00:01:27]Sidebar, shout out to my email crew and all of my sources. You guys share so much with me and trust me with so much.

[00:01:35]I really appreciate you guys to trust me to transfer this information to my people. Yes. Okay. Where were we?

[00:01:45]Florida prisons are different. People on the outside don't understand how dangerous it becomes when there is no parole. In other states, inmates hold on to hope. In Florida, question. A lot of these men know they are dying in here.

[00:02:05]The women get very helpless.

[00:02:09]That changes people. Hope disappears first. Humanity usually follows. Oh, I'm getting fractious. Humanity usually follows.

[00:02:20]>> So much I can tell you. So much I can tell you.

[00:02:23]>> So, this officer gets an uplose view of the inmates after they get into the prison and the reality of the life in prison sets in.

[00:02:35]You can feel it walking through the dorms. The noise never really stops.

[00:02:41]Sidebar that reminds me of Sarah saying after sentencing when she went back she felt like she was in like a days that Christmas music was blaring on the uh monitors and there were lights and decorations everywhere and she said it was like a nightmare. Do you guys remember that? Even recently, shout out to Australia, she did not want her Brian's son to come to the facility on Mother's Day because she kind of, in my opinion, was embarrassed. She says that the halls are filled with hundreds of kids and parents, and she didn't want Brian's son to be there with that. Hope disappears first. Humanity usually follows.

[00:03:27]You can feel it walking through the dorms. The noise never really stops.

[00:03:32]Metal clanking. Men and women yelling, fighting.

[00:03:37]Someone crying quietly in the corner pretending to have allergies.

[00:03:43]Oh, someone threatening somebody over a suit packet. A commissary item. A debt owed. Somebody detoxing a loan.

[00:03:53]Oh, somebody hearing voices. Somebody reading old letters from their mother until the paper almost tears apart in their hands.

[00:04:03]The mothers. That's the part people don't talk about enough. I've seen grown men k i l l e rs gang members men covered head to toe in tattoos completely break down after a fiveinut phone call with their mother or family members especially on holidays. Mother's Day is one of the hardest days in prison, which is what made me reach out to you. It's chaotic. You can feel the depression hanging in the air like humidity.

[00:04:37]You recently discussed Sarah having visits with her son. Uh, correction, Brian's son, Danny, I'm here to tell you there are some things that Sarah will never tell anyone. She'll never admit she'll never admit the things that she goes through behind the bars. There's just something different about inmates who know they are never getting out versus the inmates who have hope. Hope.

[00:05:12]I have hope.

[00:05:15]Sarah's favorite words. Danielle, some inmates stop eating after bad news from home. Some isolate. Some become violent.

[00:05:25]Some just stare at the wall for hours.

[00:05:28]And then there are the ones finally accepting they'll never leave. That's when it gets scary.

[00:05:35]>> Calling me a murderer. And just >> people think prison violence always comes from anger. A lot of time it comes from hopelessness. A man with nothing left to lose is unpredictable.

[00:05:47]One bad night, one rumor, one debt.

[00:05:51]Oh my god, you guys. I'm getting so scared. I never want to commit a crime in my life.

[00:05:57]Oh, I remember watching uh 60 Days in before a prison show and the guy, he really uh told the cameraman that he shouldn't have borrowed something from someone because a $3 soup turned into like a $100 debt. Like prison inflation.

[00:06:20]If you borrow something and you don't return it at the exact time or date that you promised, the inmate can inflate the price or hurt you. Kind of like a respect thing, you know.

[00:06:35]One bad night, one rumor, one debt, one disrespectful moment. Comment and suddenly officers are responding to blood on the floor at 2:00 a.m. 100 p.m.

[00:06:52]The racial politics inside are real, too. Very real. Sarah should fit right in with all of her nast all of her nasty comments about hair braiders and Hispanics.

[00:07:08]People separate themselves by race, gangs, geography, even religion.

[00:07:15]Sometimes races work together for business. Sometimes they're one insult away from a war. Most outsiders would be shocked how organized it actually is.

[00:07:28]Sometimes I fear for my own life and just want to make it home to my family.

[00:07:34]Oh, us officers operate on a two-tier system. The policies of the prison and the policies of the inmates or else.

[00:07:47]The inmates know everything happening.

[00:07:50]>> Can you bring your tablet?

[00:07:52]Oh, most outsiders would be shocked at how organized it actually is. There are quote unquote cars, hierarchies, politics, rules, punishments, and everyone knows where they stand or else.

[00:08:08]The inmates know everything happening before staff does. Everything.

[00:08:14]Contraband doesn't Oh, Contraband doesn't magically appear from thin air.

[00:08:20]phones, drs, tobacco, chargers. Some of it comes through visitation. Yes, but people would be naive. Oh, you guys, I'm getting scared. Sidebar, shout out to my people in the chat. All of my people who have been incarcerated, I need you guys in the chat right now to give us what's what, and how many. We are reading a letter from an officer at a Florida prison who wants just to give us some insight. one of our fellow straight A students that wants to give us some insight from the Florida prison system.

[00:08:56]Recently, there has been a trial of the four members that took the life of a rapper in Florida. They all got life without parole. The youngest was 18 years old. The Julio Fulio trial, it was so intense.

[00:09:15]The warden got on the stand and said, "No, we don't want to sentence them to the death penalty. We want them to have life in prison so they can give us sweat equity."

[00:09:27]Oh, he said, "They're young and even if they're injured, they still work." Most states you'll get like 20 to 25 years for k i l l i ning someone or something.

[00:09:41]But Florida, you'll get life without parole. I mean, we've seen cases where people have gotten 20, 30 years for something heinous, that still gives them hope in a release date. Scary.

[00:09:56]Okay. Now, this officer is talking about how even things that are snuck into the prison isn't always through visitation.

[00:10:06]She says, "People would be naive to think that."

[00:10:12]>> You >> know that?

[00:10:13]>> I don't.

[00:10:14]>> Okay. Some things come through visitation. Yes. But people would be naive to think corrupt staff aren't involved sometimes.

[00:10:23]This is why it's important that I stay anonymous. I'm not saying every officer is dirty. Most are exhausted, underpaid, burned out, and trying to make it home alive.

[00:10:37]But all it takes is one desperate employee with bills piling up. One officer gets compromised, then manipulated, then trapped. The inmates study weaknesses like predators.

[00:10:52]I myself have seen people that I've worked armto-arm with be maimed, assaulted, attacked, compromised.

[00:11:03]Oh, and scams they never stop. Some inmates run entire hustles from prison sales, fake relationships, fake emergencies, pen pal manipulation, romance scams. Quote, "I just need help with my commissary." End quote. Oh, sounds like Sarah. She is the top queen.

[00:11:27]Queen Grime. Queen Grime. Rest in peace, Lana girl. Does that remind you when Sarah's on the phone, always barking out orders, delegating things to do, always in need of something? Then the whole uh pen pal manipulation and romance scams.

[00:11:45]What do you guys think about that?

[00:11:49]Uh, some inmates run entire hustles from prison sales, fake relationships, fake emergencies, pen pal manipulation, romance scams. Quote, I just need help with my commissary. End quote. Some of these guys talk to 10 women at once.

[00:12:07]Sidebar, I think this straight A student works at a men's facility. What do you guys think?

[00:12:15]Some of these guys talk to 10 women at once. They memorize birthdays, family details, emotional triggers. It becomes psychological warfare with us, too. We receive extensive training about these boundaries. Yet, there are still officers that end up losing their jobs or even worse. Sidebar. What could be worse than Oh, worse than losing your job could maybe be being arrested, right? What do you guys think? It becomes psychological warfare. Not every inmate is like that. Some are genuinely lovely, lonely. Some truly regret what they've done. But others, prison just sharpened them. Relationships inside prison get dangerous, too.

[00:13:08]Friendships turn into extortion overnight. Alliances collapse. Jealousy spreads fast. People become possessive over money, attention, phones, even conversations.

[00:13:23]Sometimes the strongest emotional relationships inmates have are with each other because they are surviving the same nightmare together.

[00:13:36]That reminds me of uh Christina and Sarah.

[00:13:41]>> So we did make attempts like >> people become possessive over money, attention, phones, even conversations.

[00:13:49]Sometimes the strongest emotional relationships inmates have are with each other because they are surviving the same nightmare together. Then one betrayal changes everything.

[00:14:03]the slightest, smallest betrayal.

[00:14:07]Psychological warfare. Oh, where's my crystal ball? I need a medical snack.

[00:14:15]Then one betrayal changes everything.

[00:14:19]The public also doesn't realize how bad conditions can actually get. Broken air conditioning is brutal in the heat, mold, insects, sewage issues, mentally ill inmates. Oh, fire ants. Mentally ill inmates mixed into dorms that are already overcrowded. Men packed together with decades of rage and nowhere to put it.

[00:14:45]Men coming in not knowing the dangers ahead of them. People lose their minds slowly in here. And the craziest part, after enough years, prison starts feeling normal to them. I've watched inmates parole in other states and panic. Oh wow. I've watched inmates parole in other states and panic because freedom terrifies them more than prison.

[00:15:13]But in Florida, many won't even get that chance. They know this concrete cage is their final address.

[00:15:22]Oh, some nights during count it gets so quiet you can hear televisions echoing down empty halls. Then you realize and you realize thousands of people are lying awake at the exact same time thinking about every mistake that brought them there. That silence feels heavier than the screaming. Danielle, we watch true crime channels as entertainment, drama, content, but for the people inside these walls, this is life every single day.

[00:16:01]This is my life. I guess this is my life. We've heard Sarah come to grips with that as well through the calls.

[00:16:09]Shout out to the third rail. We sidebar, the third rail is back, too. I'll give you guys an update on that. But we've watched Sarah also recently when she's like, "Do they expect me to do this for the rest of my life? This is my life."

[00:16:25]Rest in peace, George. And we're like, "Uh, yeah, Sarah, this is your life now.

[00:16:30]You took someone's life." But the reality is she could have been home in 15 years. She really could have walked free. There are k i l l e rs that walk free after a sentence and now she's grappling with the fact that reject that she turned down the sweetheart deal and is facing life with no parole.

[00:16:57]>> You got up and you went up to bed.

[00:16:59]>> But for the people inside these walls, this is life every single day. Anyway, dot dot dot. I just wanted people on the outside to hear the truth from someone who actually walks these halls. I love you and your channel, your straight A students hanging out on the back porch.

[00:17:19]Lol. Stay safe. If you or your people have any questions, don't hesitate. A lots of love from one of your Florida straight A students.

[00:17:32]Oh wow. So, what do you guys think? What do you guys think? Does it warm your heart to know that Sarah is being held accountable?

[00:17:41]But she's also her hope is her appeal.

[00:17:46]After her successful appeal is rejected, then maybe reality will set in. What do you guys think? I can't wait to hear from my top tier commenters. And on Sunday Funday, we discussed Sarah's uh confabulation, which is when someone literally believes their own lies. They fill in the gaps of missing memories just with lies. You know, she's a liabetic. Now, one thing she is definitely uh having troubles with is the fact that she turned down the plea deal, right? So, we've all wondered like how does she feel? Recently, we read a message from Reddit. Shout out to Reddit, where P told someone that he even said, "Hey, why didn't you take the plea deal, Sarah?" And she kind of told him like, "Why do you care now? It's over." She even went as far as to say she didn't know about the plea deal. She didn't know. How rich, right? Actually, to quote Peter, she said, "I didn't know that it was a real offer. We just went through jury selection. I didn't feel comfortable raising R A I S I N raising my hand when the judge asked me before the trial if I was okay knowing that there were offers made." End quote.

[00:19:15]Hear that again. She said, "I didn't know that it was a real offer. We just went through jury selection. I didn't feel comfortable raising my hand when the judge said, "She's such a liar."

[00:19:29]When the judge asked me before the trial if I was okay knowing that there were offers made reject. Shout out to the third rail.

[00:19:40]>> We were um talking the other day.

[00:19:42]They're like, "Oh my gosh, we're so happy we got mirrors. You all are so stupid. I'd rather have a shower curtain for some privacy and air conditioning."

[00:19:50]and they were thrilled to death that we got mirrors. It's just crazy to me.

[00:19:55]>> Oh, I had to go and dig up this particular call because it reminded me of what our correctional straight A student said at the beginning of this call. Right. Listen, you can tell here Sarah still hasn't grasped that this is her forever town home. She doesn't have her crystal balls yet.

[00:20:15]>> Our curtain for some privacy and air conditioning. And they were thrilled to death that we got mirrors. It's just crazy to me. It's crazy. It's crazy to me. Like I had to I had to talk to God and say, "God, look, I don't know what you have me here for and I'm trying to sift it sift through all of it because like just nothing makes sense here and it's everything that shouldn't be like the cameras in the bathroom. That's I, you know, that's crazy to me. Oh my gosh. Listen, they do drugs here all day, all night. It's crazy." And the guards do nothing about it. Like straight up drugs. Um the razor blades from the razors and they're cutting up pills, chopping up pills and like the stuff that they're getting from the officers on on the outside. It's it's just crazy to me. Like this is wild.

[00:21:03]Like I thought County was bad and then I thought the reception center was bad, but yo, this takes the cake.

[00:21:08]>> Yeah, this woman is crazy. She clearly doesn't realize that she's being recorded and monitored. These officers that she's speaking about could be recording this call and get revenge on her. Oh, but it reminds me of what our correctional straight A student said. My keyboard is so bloody. This call is from when Sarah was just sentenced and transferred to the facility, her new forever town home, and she is just getting acclimated in my opinion. Get comfortable, Sarah. Wrigle around some.

[00:21:44]get your ducks in a row cuz this is happening. Know that.

[00:21:50]>> And like the stuff that they're getting from the officers on on the outside, it's it's just crazy to me. Like this is wild. Like I thought County was bad and then I thought the reception center was bad, but yo, this takes the cake. Like I simply just want pictures. Has not sent me pictures of him since he's been 10 years old.

[00:22:07]>> Oh. Oh. Oh, that reminds me before I forget. Sidebar. The other day, previously prior, I told you guys about a pos I'm getting fractious. A possible program that Sarah would join to help facilitate her visits with Brian's son.

[00:22:25]Right. The program is called Still My Mother. Put a pin in that as we listen to her complain. apparently like the incentivized prison program where she gets all of these extra perks, uh extra visiting hours, extra phone calls, air conditioning, extra uh educational and life skills. This prison program would help facilitate the actual visit.

[00:22:51]Instead of just going into a visiting room and sitting at a table, she would be able to do handson things like a mom.

[00:23:00]Oh, >> like I simply just want pictures. Has not sent me pictures of him since he's been 10 years old and he keeps telling me he's going to he keeps telling me he did. He doesn't respond to me on the tablet for 5 years and just they both keep lying to me and just >> called me on the phone the other day and I think he's just really angry at me and then we ended up having a really good conversation. And I want you to know too, like I begged and tearfully pled for to fill out the application for and he said that he did it on February 7th.

[00:23:36]He should have been approved already and they're not even on my list. The only people showing up, believe it or not, listen, is all the way in effing, Australia. You and the two people that took care of my two dead dogs. So, it's just like where is everybody? I don't understand why nobody's being approved.

[00:23:53]And I know Julian said that his was because he's probably been incarcerated before, but he's not even showing up on my list. I don't understand. Like, if you can call me and say, "Listen, I filled it out on this date. Why am I not approved yet?" And then is very [ __ ] about it also because she keeps sending me these screenshots that says that she is approved, but she can't even send me $25. So, like I don't understand what they're doing or if they just don't give two shits or if it's because like one of my friends said that it's because I'm an influenced highprofile case. I said, "No, that has nothing to do with that.

[00:24:28]I'm just another inmate like everybody else."

[00:24:31]>> It's a good day to have a good day.

[00:24:33]Sarah is sprinkling gold everywhere.

[00:24:36]So, do you guys want to go to the email where Sarah responded to the plea deal or hear about the prison program? Shout out to my people in the chat. Replay crew. You know we can't do it without you. I will see you in the comments in the chat. Uh you're my people. Of course you want to hear that plea deal. This email shows Sarah's response. We have a little human on alert. A little human on alert.

[00:25:06]Okay. I was able to switch locations.

[00:25:08]I'm watching him from the camera. You guys may still hear the little tablet in the background. Forgive me.

[00:25:16]Okay. Now, we've all recently been discussing Sarah and the plea deal. Oh, the plea deal. That sweetheart plea deal. Reject. Now, she claimed so many different things. She didn't know about it, but um she Sunday funday when we were discussing it, something fell into my lap and I have to share. Pretty much after Australia heard one of the calls, she reached out to Sarah and said, "Hey, why do you keep saying that you didn't know about the plea deal? You did know about the plea deal." And she went on to list every way that Sarah knew about the plea deal. I have to tell you guys this so that you can have context and understand Sarah's response, right? So, she went on to tell her like, "Hey, it was your responsibility and not admitting that you were aware of the plea deal, you know, and she just kind of went on to tell her that Cashman told her about the plea deal." Her brother Lana, she just listed everything and told her like, "Hey, mate, you knew." Oh my god, you guys. She even told her like, "Lana even asked you. It's all in the text messages in your own words. So why do you keep saying you didn't know about the plea deal or you were like coerced into taking it like you and Lana were all thinking that you were going to walk like Christina did. Remember? Uh and not to mention James Owens discussed right there on camera during the trial. He said, "Uh, judge, so does that mean she would get uh out of 15 years, she would do what about eight?" And he was looking out of the corner of his eyes. And Sarah wouldn't even look his way. She just pretended to write on a paper and said, "Uh, reject." Oh, our old famous reject to the sweetheart deal. So when we see the message we saw from Peter in our previous Sunday Funday when he told her almost the same thing like, "Hey, why do you keep saying you didn't know about the plea deal?" It's mind-blowing to me because all of this time I'm thinking that no one is kind of holding her accountable or like everyone is confulating in the plea deal in that area. Yes, they are confulating, but you know what I mean, right? And if you aren't familiar with our new word, if your keyboard isn't dripping, check out our last episode where a medical professional, one of our straight A students wrote in and gave us this wild theory about confibulation.

[00:27:49]Shout out to you guys in the chat who have remixed it to confabulous confabulation.

[00:27:56]Confibulation pretty much lying. So after Australia hears the call, she's like, "Hey, you heard you knew about the plea deal." So she just, you know, maybe you should take responsibility for that. And you know, life without parole is a bit excessive, but hey, you knew, right?

[00:28:17]It's like Sarah picked the worst state to reject a sweetheart plea deal in because Florida has no parole as we heard at the beginning of this call.

[00:28:29]what the inmates go through. So, this is Sarah's response to being held to the fire about why she didn't take the plea deal and why she is confabulating confabulously liabetically lying.

[00:28:44]The subject is a exclamation exclamation exclamation you are my best friend and that's in response to the closing of what Australia said like hey you know you know it is what it is you have a life sentence that's harsh you know not trying to hurt your feelings but you should just take responsibility so in response to that she's like a you are my best friend and what responsib ibility is it I'm supposedly not taking?

[00:29:20]Oh, and what responsibility is it I'm supposedly not taking with the plea I never knew about after eight attorneys until trial time. H then was coerced into not taking question or am I not taking responsibility for any of it?

[00:29:42]You know everything everything I've gone through and none of it was done correctly or my fault. Why would I say it was? I'm the only one who know it's not apparently.

[00:30:00]Oh my god. She totally ignored everything she said about hey the attorneys told you Cashman Lana your brother. She just says let's read that again. What responsibility is it I'm supposedly not taking with the plea? Uh, saying that you didn't know? I never knew about after eight attorneys until trial time, which is complete malarkey because we saw her discussing the plea deal. Cashmen, bankowits, we saw them.

[00:30:32]Okay, my ducks are everywhere. I'm getting frazzled. Uh, what is it I'm supposed to take responsibility for?

[00:30:40]With the plea deal I never knew about after eight attorneys until trial time, then was coerced into not taking sidebar. Sarah says that James convinced her not to take the plea deal. According to one of my sources who is very close to the case, one of her last friends, shout out to Australia. Sarah says, "Hey, I didn't know about the plea deal and then when I found out, James forced me not to take it." Do you guys believe that?

[00:31:12]James seemed so frustrated he wanted to barter a plea and come in and ride off into the sunset back to Milton off of Cashman's work. In my opinion, be a good old boy. get his 15 minutes of fame, do his interviews, and take all of his posters back home to hang on the walls.

[00:31:33]I don't think he wanted to go to trial.

[00:31:35]Okay. Uh I didn't know about until trial time then was coerced into not taking or am I not taking responsibility for any of it?

[00:31:47]No, you aren't taking responsibility.

[00:31:50]You are actually saying that you were railroaded, done unjustly, and you are innocent. You're still saying that.

[00:31:59]You're even going as far as to say you didn't know about the plea deal now. So, no, you aren't taking responsibility for any of it. Reject.

[00:32:09]Okay. She goes on to say after, "Or am I not taking responsibility for any of it?

[00:32:15]You know everything. Everything Everything in all capitals I've gone through and none of it in all capitals was done correctly or my fault.

[00:32:29]Here we go again.

[00:32:31]Basically, she's saying that nothing that went wrong in the trial was her fault. James and the legal team, the girls, I guess it would be their faults, right? Or Judge Kra. He's the enemy, man. He's not on my side. He's the enemy. He's the reason for my guilty verdict.

[00:32:50]Oh, she even said something slick about Judge Jackson. Remember when Peter suggested that she reach out to her? She said, "She doesn't approve any of my [ __ ] man. She's not on my side." So, no. No. What do you mean you know everything everything that you've gone through and none of it was done correctly or your fault? I think the prosecution did everything correctly, Sarah. And what you did to George was your fault.

[00:33:21]Why would I say it was? That sentence right there. I'm going to have to eat medical snacks. You guys were right. She will never admit her guilt. Previously, we discussed if Sarah were to be granted by some miraculous what puff of a cigarette, if she was granted a new trial, would she and if she was offered a plea deal, hypothetically, would she take the plea deal? Knowing what prison is like now, what she's experienced, would she just go ahead and take the plea deal? But many of you pointed out, "Hey, Danielle, that would cause her to admit guilt."

[00:34:01]And she never would. But I said, "Hey, you guys, you hear the calls. You see what she's going through." Oh, well, everything that she's going through. I'm thinking she'll take the plea deal and admit her guilt and then get out and go on a tour and complete the mockumentary, right? But this right here shows you guys are right. She is saying directly in response to the plea deal, everything that was done was done incorrectly and none of it was my fault. Why would I say it was? I'm the only one only one who knows it's not apparently. So, she's saying she's the only one in the world that clearly knows that everything was done incorrectly and nothing was her fault. She's the only one who knows that apparently. Yes, Sarah, you are. This is what makes me really think she truly does believe her lies, what she's saying. What do you guys think about that? She truly believes that she was just done wrong. She's innocent. Let's read this one more time without me interrupting. In response to, "Why are you pretending like you don't know about the plea deal? And you should just take responsibility for rejecting it." she says. And what responsibility is it I'm supposedly not taking with the plea I never knew about for eight attorneys until trial time then was coerced into not taking question or am I not taking responsibility for any of it. She goes on to say, "You know everything, everything. Everything in capitals I've gone through and none of it was done correctly or my fault. Why would I say it was? I'm the only one only one who knows it's not apparently." Oh my goodness, she's so arrogant. I can't wait to see my top tier commenter shout out to you guys. She is completely ignoring all of the facts that she was presented with confabulating. She is pretending like we didn't see her on TV saying reject or unless she's trying to say that Owens forced her to.

[00:36:23]What's even worse, well worse for her is when I was watching the Julio Fulio trial, I saw that shout out to Julia Gulia. I saw a expert testifying saying that in Florida 70% of seven yeah seven out of 10 appeals are turned down when I say that it is so hard for an Florida inmate to get a life without parole sentence reversed. Yes.

[00:36:54]And also the warden of the prison down in Okala, I believe, even got on the stand and said, "Hey, we want these prisoners to come and work and give us sweat equity." Oh, that really, really got me. Sweat equity. That means Sarah is working. She's cleaning all of those toilets. She is the queen of the toilets. The warden said he didn't even care if you were sick or injured. even the disabled have to work. So when we hear what our fellow straight A student, the correctional officer from Florida said to us from the very beginning of this call and hearing Sarah's response to just stepping foot in the facility and seeing the different uh two tiers of lifestyle as the officer said like the policy there at the prison and then the inmates how they run the prison.

[00:37:51]So, like I don't understand what they're doing or if they just don't give two shits or if it's because like one of my friends said that it's because I'm an influence highprofile case. I said, "No, that has nothing to do with that. I'm just another inmate like everybody else.

[00:38:05]>> I'm just like everybody else."

[00:38:08]Okay. So, now that we know Sarah's just pretending as if she didn't know about the plea deal and she doesn't think she did anything wrong, we're going to go and talk about the parent child visits the program. So, there's an article by, let's see, uh, Isidora Kuskovski, still my mother, still my father, where this person goes into the Florida prison, the actual facility where Sarah is, and documents this program.

[00:38:42]So it reads, "Still my mother. Still my father documents bonding meetings between children and their incarcerated mothers and fathers at 12 men's and women's prisons in the state of Florida.

[00:38:55]More than 2.7 million children in the US have an incarcerated parent and approximately 10 million children have experienced parental incarceration at some point in their lives.

[00:39:10]Nationally, there are more than 120,000 incarcerated mothers and 1.1 million incarcerated fathers who are parents of minor children. Documenting family bonding visits affords me the opportunity to not only tackle mass incarceration from a humanistic point, but to also explore these experiences.

[00:39:39]Children of Inmates, an organization dedicated to bringing incarcerated families together, facilitates these unusual visits where parents have intimate contact with their children through physical interaction, game playing, singing, and gift giving. Oh, fish soap. This program greatly differs from the conventional visits as it is a bonding experience for both inmate and child. Parents perform their identities as mothers and fathers as volunteers instruct them to get into full quote unquote mommy or daddy mode. You can see the article here on the screen. At the bottom there's the link if you want to go and check out the photos of the actual visits. The mothers are brushing the daughter's hair. Uh the dads are playing with the boys like they're having like a visit visit, not the conventional visit, sitting at a table where you can't touch each other. They are having a more physical family visit, I guess, as much as you can while you're in prison, you know. So that's the next program that I think Sarah may try to get involved in.

[00:40:59]The children are allowed in up until adulthood until they're technically an adult. So, you know, that will be interesting since she was allowed into the incentivized prison program.

[00:41:13]I'll keep you posted. Switching gears.

[00:41:15]Shout out to What's What and How Many Ducks. What's What said Danny, can you look into Becky Hill and that whole thing? What happened? Did she ever was she ever held accountable? Well, guess what? Not only are Jim and Dick looking for her to be held accountable, arrested, Alex has filed a civil suit against her. He wants to get paid. And the prosecutors are now going after the death penalty. Anginette Levy interviewed Kraton Waters. Oh, we finally get to hear from Kraton.

[00:41:53]andraton said he's ready to prosecute this year.

[00:41:58]>> Becky Hill ran the Colatin County Courthouse where Murdoch's double murder trial was held in early 2023. She was in charge and even read the verdict. So, according to Crime Fix, the state high court determined that Becky's interference was shocking and malicious. She told the jury things like, "Don't trust him and don't trust the good old boys. have watched them closely. They're a bunch of liars.

[00:42:26]I'm paraphrasing, but you can imagine.

[00:42:29]She was dropping hints. They say she was tainting the jury to the point where he got a guilty verdict. And now it's been overturned. And Alex is so happy, as you can imagine. But the prosecutors, they're fighting back. Kraton is ready to fight.

[00:42:47]>> Doing this a long time. Uh it's unfortunate. Um but uh you know you just dust yourself off and go do the job again and that's what we plan to do >> right now. We still could potentially seek rehearing. We could potentially seek uh circ from the US Supreme Court.

[00:43:01]Uh and we are going to uh you know uh discuss that internally a little bit but I think right now uh you know from my perspective uh our goal is just to tee this thing up again and get it uh as soon as reasonably possible. And uh you know I certainly think uh we would be looking for some time in the in the fall or before the end of the year. But obviously we will get with the signed judge. The defense is going to have their own position on that and ultimately uh the judge will decide you know what date is set.

[00:43:26]>> What the end of fall, the end of this year. I'm thinking it would take a few years since Alex isn't going anywhere.

[00:43:34]Of course, he's there serving 27 years for his financial crimes and blaming the ninjas for Maggie and Pawpaw. Rest in peace, Maggie and Pawpa. What? By the end of fall, he's ready to retry Alex.

[00:43:49]Okay. Now, Becky was charged with jury tampering and perjury. She was fired from her job. Shamed in the town. Shamed in L town, Lel country. But she was not sent to jail. So, what's what and what's what and how many ducks? There we have it. She was not prosecuted. But that's what they're gunning for now. So, Kraton's going to explain why his office declined to prosecute, but a separate prosecutor's office picked it up and charged her.

[00:44:19]>> Was and let me be clear, we never once said that Becky's conduct was okay or anything like that. What we said to the court, and this is also what uh Judge Tol found after interviewing and having that hearing with all those jurors, was that these uh comments were not such that swayed this jury. And again, our argument was after 6 weeks of trial, Judge Newman there, 75 witnesses, 550 exhibits, the prosecution team, the defense team, all of that evidence that a few um unoured comments from the clerk just didn't sway the day. And that's the argument we made and that's what uh Judge Tol found. Uh the Supreme Court uh and I understand uh them not wanting to sanction this kind of conduct from a court official, they saw it differently.

[00:45:01]That's their prerogative.

[00:45:04]Becky because they didn't want this exact thing to happen. They didn't want Alex's verdict to be overturned. And guess who the number one people who were saying this? Oh yes. Dick and Jim, the good old boys. They they are rubbing it in. They did a press conference, you guys. They are gloating. Oh, darn you, Becky. Oh, she's ruined everything. As my little human says, you ruined everything.

[00:45:36]And that's just if you turn the TV off.

[00:45:39]>> On behalf of Richard Alexander Murdoch, Senior versus Rebecca Hill. And this lawsuit, we we file it under the Federal Civil Rights Statute 42, United States Code 1983, um to red address constitutional deprivation of rights. Those rights were Alex right to a fair trial, a right um that him be tried before an untampered, untainted jury. With the South Carolina Supreme Court's ruling, it has been a judged as a matter of state law that she deprived Alec of his constitutional rights, deprived him of a right to a fair trial, and as a result, we've got to do it all over again, which nobody wants to do.

[00:46:31]>> Look at Dick over there. Oh, where's my medical water? He can't wait to get the mic in front of him. He can't wait for his turn. Now, Alex is suing for Becky for $600,000. He's claiming in this federal lawsuit that he spent, get this, $600,000 out of retirement funds. I wonder if those retirement funds were his or other people's. And one of you commented and said, "Hey, Danielle, do you not want Alex to get a fair trial?" And I said, "No, no, no. It's not that. It's just that I didn't see this coming. I'm stunned. I'm just Let's see what old Dick has to say. He looks like he can't wait to get on that mic. Look at him. He is ready. And he's going to take shots at the prosecutors.

[00:47:22]Oh, I am excited to see these boys get battle it out again. I can't deny it.

[00:47:28]Oh, and I think I said Alec earlier.

[00:47:31]It's Allan. Allan wants to go after the death penalty. But listen to Dick's response to that.

[00:47:40]Clearly, he is not talking to the lawyers in his office. He's probably talking to his political consultants who thought that was a good sound for his governor's campaign. The law is clear that he cannot seek the death penalty if it is if it is due to vindictive prosecution. That is, and here's the question, what does he know today he didn't know 5 years ago? Why is he saying he's going to seek the death penalty? Is there some new piece of evidence?

[00:48:11]>> Uh, Mr. Hart Pulan, he committed a heinous crime there in the low country.

[00:48:17]He is so serious. I'm going to show you guys a video. Watch his hand, his body language as he is expressing this.

[00:48:26]So, we're a little sick and tired and we've seen this process uh since the beginning of this case where Allan Wilson plays politics as opposed to playing prosecutor. He's got great lawyers, great lawyers on his staff. He should listen to them, defer to their judgment.

[00:48:46]>> So, Dick tells Allan to pretty much stick to the political side of the prosecuting. I can handle the courtroom, you know. So Allan responds and he is still gunning for the death penalty. He wasn't swayed by this little hand movement that Dick is making at all. He said this case is being treated exactly as it should be as a brand new trial.

[00:49:13]Every legal option is on the table and those discussions are happening as they should happen with the dedicated prosecutors and staff within the AG's office. not as part of some campaign apparatus.

[00:49:28]Oh, you guys. He went on to say, "Back in 2022 when this case was tried, the death penalty, things surrounding that was different. We hadn't carried out an execution in more than a decade. That has changed now. And it's one of several factors that must now be evaluated." Oh, plot twist. I bet Alex didn't see this coming. Allan didn't stop there. He went on to say how he was disappointed in Dick and Jim. What is disappointing is watching Dick Hart Pulan and Jim Griffin spend their time trashing SLED. That's the sheriff's department there in South Carolina attacking law enforcement, South Carolina law enforcement instead of treating this matter with the seriousness it deserves. Shout out to my people in South Carolina. Shout out to my people in the chat. The good old boys are fighting. Allan wrapped it up right there. He says, "At the end of the day, our responsibility is simple. Follow the law, protect the integrity of the process, and ensure justice is pursued fairly and professionally." Alex, we're coming for you. What are you thinking about the possible fall trial date, the new possible death sentence, death penalty of Becky and the trial and prosecution? Probably the good old boys are gunning for her to be arrested. Oh, this Murdoch trial has taken us by storm again. This is crazy. Shout out to my people down in the chat. What are you guys thinking about this? In my mind, Alex has been sitting in his cell just cooking up this whole plot. Now, a lawsuit, $600,000 and possibly more charges against Becky.

[00:51:20]Everything is her fault and the ninjas, of course. Nothing is his fault. Sounds like someone else we know, Sarah earlier. And sidebar, what do you guys think about Sarah and that plea deal?

[00:51:32]that whole excuse she gave about not knowing about the plea deal, not knowing through eight attorneys and being ambushed at the trial and coerced into take not taking the plea deal. As if James preferred to go to trial and hold up his posters.

[00:51:51]Well, some of you were saying that maybe Becky should write another book to cover any expenses she may incur. I didn't see the possible prison sentence coming.

[00:52:01]What do you guys think? Oh, Becky, Becky, you ruined everything. You've gotten yourself in a conundrum, haven't you, girl? I would feel sorry for you, but what do you guys think? Oh my goodness.

[00:52:17]And we discussed that whole sweat equity thing. How Alex having life in prison, he even if he gets old or sick, older sicker, he's still going to have to give the prison system sweat equity. He's still going to work and be an inmate.

[00:52:36]And if he gets if he has if he gets $600,000 from anywhere, shouldn't that go to his victims? Where is all of the missing monies that he stole already? That money was never recovered. I believe Anginette Levy said that Mark Tinsel, the the lawyer for the young lady Mallerie that was thrown off of the boat, he is going to participate and testify at the trial for sure once there's a new trial. So maybe there will be more financial crime information this time around. But I just wonder what would the um motive or angle be this time because it's like the good old boys now they kind of have an angle on what the prosecution is going to use, right? Well, it doesn't change the evidence, but they've had a lot of time.

[00:53:32]And Alex is a savvy attorney himself.

[00:53:35]His grandfather's photo was on the wall for God's sake. So, this is going to be a good one. I'm so glad you guys answered my call and made it this far.

[00:53:46]If you made it this far, you know I appreciate you and I will see you on the next episode. Bye.

[00:54:01]Oh, and if you made it this far, the third rail dropped a call today, but we'll discuss it. It's a members only call. We'll discuss it. It was like a snippet of a call that we've heard previously prior, but just a bit more like a call was cut off and then this call just picks up where that was left off. just some funny stuff about Sarah's whole life and also some more third rail updates and comments, top tier comments. So, make sure I see you in the chat. Replay crew, you know what to do. Trophies and blue hearts, I can't wait to see you. I can't wait to see what all of you guys think about this episode. Bye.