This video presents a comprehensive debate examining moral arguments against homosexuality, including religious perspectives (Christianity), natural law arguments, genetic evidence, and harm-based reasoning. The debater systematically challenges each argument by questioning the logical consistency of claims, examining biblical texts critically, and presenting counter-evidence such as animal homosexuality in nature and genetic studies showing homosexuality has biological components. The debate demonstrates how philosophical reasoning can be used to critically evaluate moral claims, showing that arguments based on religious authority, naturalness, or harm require careful logical examination to be valid.
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I guess that would be an easy way to do it. All right. Um, make sure you're double tapping on that screen, share it with your friends, doing all that good stuff. If you're in that guest request box, make sure that you are 18 or older, that you believe that there is something wrong with being gay. If you don't fit that criteria, don't request to join.
Only looking for opposition, only looking for debates.
Let's go ahead and grab it.
There's um what is it? What what what was the set of words? There was like a set of words I was looking for. I don't know. My memory is going to be shot today, so disregard. But um yeah, I I just finished editing the clip with uh the like American defender or something like that. I think that's his name. where where like me and like my friends, you know, really like wailed on him. But hey, if you're in that guest request box, make sure that you're 18 or older and that you think that there is something wrong with being gay. And with that, we'll go to the very first guest.
Hey, how's it going?
>> Yeah, I'm doing great.
>> Yep. How old are you?
>> Yeah, I'm 21.
>> Yep. Do you think there's something wrong with being gay?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. What do you think's wrong with being gay?
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm just looking for the first premise. Sure. The proposition.
>> Uh, yeah. Um, if something is wrong, uh, then there's a wrong maker. There's no wrong maker to being gay. Therefore, there's nothing wrong with being gay.
>> Wait, hold on. Something is wrong and there's a wrong maker.
>> Okay. And P2 would be there's >> there's no wrong maker.
Oh, poor me.
>> You got anything else?
Okay.
Well, let's go to the next guest, I suppose.
>> Hey, how's it going? What's up? What do you got this time?
>> Oh, I actually just wanted to pick up.
Oh, I'm having that same echo problem as I had last time.
>> Oh, no. That's too bad.
>> It must be a me. I'll drop down. I'll try again later, maybe. All good. Thank you.
>> Yep.
What the flip? Okay. Wait. Do I All right. Make sure you're double tapping on that screen. If you're in the guest quest box, you got to be 18 or older. And you got to oop. Hey, how's it going?
>> Hi.
>> Feels like there's like a bit of an echo, maybe.
Uh, you probably need to disconnect me from the Bluetooth.
Okay, I accept your surrender. Folded like a chair.
Hardboiled like an omelette.
U, make sure you're double tapping on that screen. Don't ask me what the [ __ ] omelette is. U, make sure you're double tapping on that screen, doing all that good stuff. If you're in that guest request box, you got to be 18 or older.
You got to believe in and that there is something wrong with being gay. If you don't fit that criteria, simply don't request to join. That's all I ask of you. Um, I currently have nobody requesting to join, so if you want to debate, I would absolutely love to see you there.
Otherwise, wow, Ross Soul's talking a lot of [ __ ] about me. I don't know why he would want to direct more attention to that video.
It's like humiliating for him. I don't know. he gets like rhetorically and substantively pile driven and it becomes like pretty obvious that actually he just can't answer the question that he was trying to get me to answer and that I could that like the atheist worldview is capable of accounting for knowledge and that his worldview can't. Um but you know I I on the other hand would love it if people went over to Monkey Boy's YouTube channel and watched that video of me dunking on him.
Hey, how's it going?
Hello.
>> Yep. How old are you?
>> Yeah, me too.
>> Yep. And do you think there's something wrong with being gay? Ah gosh, what a voice crack. Horrible. Horrible start.
Do you think there's something wrong with being gay?
>> Um like what do you mean?
>> Like do you think there's something like morally wrong with being gay?
>> Morally wrong? Yeah.
>> Oh yeah. What? What's wrong with that?
Uh well within my like my religious perspective uh it's a sin.
>> Mhm.
>> Um >> which religion to be clear?
>> Yeah. Take Christianity.
>> Okay. I I don't know why I would take the Christian ethics seriously. I mean the book says all sorts of absurd things like for example that rape victims need to marry their rapists. um you know slavery is like a fine thing to do. I don't know. There's a bunch of Deuteronomy 20 uh I think it's 22 28 or 25.
>> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly the one.
>> Deuteronomy 22 28-29.
>> Yeah. Okay. This this uh it does not state that um if someone were to be essayed then they are to marry their uh rapist. It does. Let's read it. If a man happens to meet a virgin who has not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father 50 shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
>> Yeah. So, uh uh I believe you were familiar with the word tas.
>> Is that to?
>> Yeah.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. Um um also I want I I don't know the exact verse. Uh I can pull it up.
>> It's Deuteronomy 22:28-29.
>> No, no, I understand that verse. Uh I'm just uh there's another verse in which this is uh like like they state the same thing, right? So um the other verse is saying uh is saying like it's referring to deception, right? So um >> let's get that other verse.
>> What' you say?
>> Yeah, let's get that other verse cuz I'm I'm looking at it.
>> Yeah, I'll get it.
>> I'm not really seeing >> Yeah. Okay.
But while we're waiting for that, make sure you're double tapping on that screen, sharing with your friends, doing all that good stuff.
I wonder because the the video that I'm exporting right now in Premiere Pro, it's like it's like nearly two hours long, so it's going to take some time to get it exported.
Um, maybe I'll send AG a text. I wonder what she's up to.
Uh, but keep in mind, guest, um, when you find the verse, you're going to have to come back to the app. If you're off the app, I won't be able to hear you.
Yeehaw. Thank you so so much. I appreciate that. That's what we could do. I could I could shamelessly create like a gift goal.
Isn't that fun? Isn't it fun? Sending me money.
Okay, I made the gift goal. All right, make sure you're double tapping on that screen. Isn't this entertaining for you?
Um, yeah, just keep on make sure make sure you keep on double tapping on that screen. Um, I got not as much sleep as I would have liked to last night. I also keep on forgetting to do I don't know. I I changed my medication. Oh, yeah.
What's up?
>> Yeah. So, the verse is Exodus 22:16-17.
>> Exodus 22:16-17.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Let's see. Uh, Hebrew.
>> Uh, can you hear the dog barking? If so, I can go on mute.
>> Uh, I can hear the dog barking. Um, but it's okay. It's not too bad. Um, this doesn't seem as it like the and lies with her verse.
This seems to be just a different word.
This seems to mean straightforwardly just like intercourse whereas the other one means sees like the type of thing that you would do to like a city.
>> Hello.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, uh you Oh my days, they're barking so loud.
But um yeah, so you pulled up Exodus 22:16-17.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. And uh what' you say about it again?
>> Yes. That this just appears to be a completely separate word. Um let me let me try to show you >> in Hebrew.
>> Yeah. Like it doesn't even seem to share the same like Hebrew root word.
>> Are you referring to to f >> uh as um this one? Like are you saying that?
>> So So this is the I'm not sure how to pronounce this, but this is the word in the original one. It appears in Deuteronomy 22:28.
Um >> yeah, I believe that's >> Yep. And then it's just a different word.
>> Yeah. Okay.
Uh I can search the word up and see what it means >> or what it means.
>> Yeah. Bas on the context for this one.
This one just seems to mean like intercourse.
>> Uh, this one seems to mean like having sex in like a like a like a normal way.
>> What? Deuteronomy or uh Exodus?
>> The one in Exodus seems to just mean like sex neutrally.
>> Yeah. Wait. So like um the idea on like they they both like are >> it looks like it might just literally mean like sleep like sleep with.
>> Yeah. So it refers to like the seducing a woman, right?
>> Okay.
>> Uh I don't know why it doesn't say it on there, but it says it for me. So, one of the things I could be wrong, somebody who knows more about Hebrew than I do, um I'd be I'd love their input on this, but um one of the things that makes me think that uh is this like Deuteronomy 24:13 verse um that it gets translated as just directly I think sleep the pledge to him that he may sleep in his cloak.
Uh >> so, Yeah, go ahead.
>> I don't know. I'd be We could We could Google what specifically this means, but I would assume that it just means something like sleep.
>> Yeah. Wait, why are you >> Yeah, it does. It does mean sleep.
>> Yeah. Why are we talking about Deuteronomy 24:13?
>> Uh because we're trying to figure out what this one word means >> and it gets used and to literally just mean sleep in Deuteronomy 22:14. So it looks like this word, the word that appears in Exodus 22:16 just means like to sleep with. Like it's totally neutral. It doesn't have any sort of implications other than like sex has occurred. Whereas this one uh the the one that translates to like seizes, uh that one has an implication of something being forceful.
>> Oh, okay. Um, so the uh are you familiar with um Deuteronomy 22:25?
>> Nope. What's Deuteronomy 22:25?
>> Yeah. So, >> oh, actually, yeah, I am. So, that's the that's the one for like the other circumstances that there's um basically what they're doing in this portion is that they're laying out the rules for okay, you know, if you um if you rape somebody who's already engaged to someone, you get this consequence. If you rape somebody who's not engaged to someone, you know, you have to marry them. You have to pay her father some amount of of uh like gold or is like silver. Um >> wait, hold on really quick. I need to find a charger.
>> Yep.
>> 325. But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman, pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. Do nothing to the woman. She has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor. For the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her. The difference between 25 and 28 is specifically the woman in 25 is already pledged to be married to somebody. She can't marry the rapist. She's already going to be married to someone.
Whereas, or alternatively, she might already just be married to someone. Um whereas in 28, what it's saying is that, you know, if you go and you rape someone, that person is just going to become your wife.
As assuming that they're not already engaged or betrod to someone [ __ ] Okay.
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>> Oh, looks like Dr. Holly got a bit spawn killed there.
I know he said uh scared, huh? In the comment section. Let's send him another invite.
I'm sure it was a total total bluff, you know. I'm sure nothing of that sort. No sort of running. Doctor true. Like, hey, how's it going?
>> That's why I left. But the book of Deuteronomy is about the unforgivable sins. This is what it's about. Okay.
>> It's about what God doesn't want you to do.
>> Okay. Sure.
>> And rape is considered the form of murder in God's eyes. So if that's >> okay then why would you prosecute the rapist? Why does the rape victim have to marry the rapist?
>> Not here about there's nothing wrong with being gay if you're talking about dut.
Do you want to actually engage with the question? Do you think that this is morally perfect when I hate when people want to throw context in their own ways saying you know certainly the rapist doesn't get murdered the rapist doesn't get like killed or anything. Oh and then he runs the [ __ ] away. Dr. Holly more like Dr. Spawn killed. Holy [ __ ] dude. That was brutal.
Spawns in, gets head shot, runs away.
Hey, how's it going?
>> Oh, hey. I'm not I mean, I'll turn on my camera. I look like a hot mess right now, though.
>> You don't need to.
>> I want to apologize in advance. Hi.
>> Hi. How's it going?
>> I'm all right. How are you? So, I'm assuming you're you're gay.
>> Uh I I don't know. It probably depends on like your Probably depends on how you view gender, but Okay. Uh yeah. How old are you?
>> I'm 26.
>> Yeah. And um do you think there's something wrong with being gay?
>> Um yes, I do. But >> Okay. What's wrong with being gay?
>> So, I am a Christian.
>> Um but outside of that, there's a lot of negative effects physically that happens with homosexual relationships.
But I don't really want to get in I mean we can go back and forth on like theology and um the negative physical effects but I feel like um oh wow now I'm big I feel like a lot of times um like if I'm wrong correct me that maybe you have been attacked by people who um claim to be in the Christian faith. Correct. Uh yeah, I mean that has happened, but I mean I don't really care about that. What I'm more interested in is like what's true and like the basis that we believe things to be true or false. So I'm more interested in the evidence. If there was overwhelming evidence in favor of Christianity, I wouldn't really care that people attack me or whatnot.
>> There is there is overwhelming evidence, but I I am not no human being. It's not their place to sit here and convince you. That's something between God and your heart.
>> Okay. Well, are you here to talk about whether or not it's wrong to be gay?
>> No. Yeah, I am.
>> Okay. Sure. Well, let's talk about it.
Like what's the >> Would you rather talk about like the theology stuff or would you rather talk about like harmful negative effects that it might have on your body?
um just kind of well it's it's the negative effects is um it's kind of graphic but obviously like your body has trouble functioning properly um passing like bowel movements after a while. Oh, but do you have any problem with like lesbians? Because even if this is true of like gay people, um, which I mean like obviously it's not if you engage in gay sex. Uh, but you know, surely if this is the reason why you oppose people being gay, then you would have no problem with lesbians.
>> That's not No, that's not the only reason. No, sorry. But that's like one of the reasons. Obviously, it's physiologically bad. Um but the main thing that is very very important to me is um the preservation of a family and going out and creating families and um life and honoring God in that way.
>> Okay. Well, gay people aren't going to do that. You know, it's not a choice to be gay. There's lots of people who wish really really wish and pray even that they could not be gay, but un, you know, unfortunately for them and their desires, what they are is gay. So, I don't know. There's just no circumstance where they go out and like start families other than of course, you know, with their gay loving partner.
>> No. Yeah, of course. Um, obviously it's not a choice to be gay. And again, I'm not belittling not trying to belittle anybody because all sin is terrible in the eyes of God and no one should be out here attacking anyone um without removing, you know, there's a Bible verse, removing the log from your own eye. focus on that instead of a thorn in somebody else's.
>> But >> there I mean there is >> there is something wrong with being gay.
You know, God is real. The Bible is true. It's very real and solid.
>> Um >> well, let's talk about that.
>> Um I I don't think that the Bible is a good source of ethics. I think that it, you know, both has God commanding ethical atrocities like genocide and then he lays down laws that also contain atrocities like slavery. I just don't think God could ever be a good standard for goodness, especially the God of the Bible.
>> Um, can you explain that more, please?
>> Which one do you want to talk about?
Like the genocide? Um, so in in 1 Samuel 15:2 through3, uh, there is a genocide that God himself commands. He says, "Go now, go forth and, uh, kill the men, the women, the children, and the infants."
Now, what crime are these people being genocided for? Uh well, 400 years prior, their great great great great great great great great great grandparents fought one battle against the Israelites, which they lost, by the way.
Um, and then God's like, "That's it. I'm going to wipe them off the face of the earth, and then he waits 400 years, and kills their descendants, including like newborn babies, you know?" Uh, that just sounds like crazy.
>> Mhm.
You said it was 1st Samuel.
>> Yeah. 1st Samuel 15 2-3.
>> Okay.
>> Thus says the Lord of hosts, I will punish the Amalachites for what they did in opposing the Israelites when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and attack Amalach and utterly destroy all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, gamble and donkey. And then they do.
>> First Samuel first. Sorry, it's taking me a minute. I I have the Orthodox Bible. I just converted to Orthodox Christianity, and it's way different than the Protestant Bible.
>> That's okay.
>> First King. Okay.
>> So, how's your day been?
>> It's been pretty good. How about you?
>> Um, it's been pretty good. I've sweating a lot. It's hot. Um, figure out my hydrons.
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah. No, I don't know. It's been getting hotter lately. It's a It feels like a microwave where I'm at.
>> Okay. So, this is the Orthodox Study Bible. If you ever want to invest in it, it's really cool. Um, it has like way more books than the Protestant Bible.
And you seem like you being like you're an educated person, so I feel like this would benefit you a lot. So um it says the time period during which the events of the first book of the kingdoms which the first Samuel is the first book of kingdoms in the Orthodox Bible.
>> Um Israel is moving away from a theocracy governed by God appointed judges to a monarchy ruled by a king.
The next 400 years would see kings both good and bad. This history is recorded in the four books of the kingdoms. And then you said 1st Samuel I'm so sorry.
>> Yeah. 1st Samuel 15 2-3.
Okay. I have bad memory, by the way, too. So, >> it's okay. I have no problem. Um, I don't have any problem with repeating myself.
>> Okay, good. Cuz you have to do that with me.
>> 15 2 through3 Lord sent me to anoint you king over Israel. Now, therefore, he the voice of the Lord. Thus says the Lord Sabo, I will exact vengeance for what Amalecch did to Israel when he met Israel on his journey. You said 15.
>> Yeah. 15 2-3.
>> 1st Samuel 15 2-3.
Yeah. I don't think I'm going to it's probably going to be in a way different verse because I'm looking at 15 2-3 and it doesn't say that in in the 15 2-3 in the book of Samuel and Orthodox Bible it says thus says the Lord Saboth I will exact vengeance for what did >> okay thus says the Lord Saboth I will exact vengeance for what Amalecch did to Israel when he met Israel on his journey coming out of Egypt now go and strike down Amalecch and Jerham and all of his things and take nothing from him. You shall utterly destroy him. You shall curse him and everything that is his.
You shall not spare anything of his. And you shall slay both man and woman, infant, nursing, calf, sheep, camel, and donkey. So it's not, it says Lord Seote.
It doesn't say God.
>> Uh, so it's talking like explicitly, I guess, like what does your 1st Samuel 15:1 say?
1 Samuel 15. Oh, you said 151, not first. The book.
>> 1 Samuel. No, no. Yeah. Yeah. 1 Samuel.
>> Samuel said to Saul, "The Lord sent me to anoint you king over Israel. Now therefore heed the voice of the Lord.
Thus says the Lord Sabos.
Look up Sabos.
>> Uh 1st Samuel 15 to Hebrew maybe. I don't know.
>> So Sabo is um >> it's literally Yahweh. The word is is quite literally Yahweh.
>> No. No. S A B A O T.
>> I'm looking at the Hebrew. The Hebrew word there is Yahweh.
>> Oh, well this and that's like that's like a thing too. Um there really is a lot of differences because Orthodoxy was the church that Jesus Christ and his apostles passed down and created. And a lot of the Bibles now when you get into like the King James version and all of that is a result of the Protestant Reformation. I think that's a I think that's a that's a contentious theological claim that you just made there. But um I mean okay, moving past that presumably the original Hebrew is going to be the same.
>> It says Sabio in the Orthodox Bible, but >> the Hebrew word is literally Yahweh. I think it's talking about Yahweh.
>> Hang on. Oh, it's saying S A B A O T H in mine.
>> Uh okay. Is that does it have Hebrew in yours?
>> Orthodox study Bible >> Hebrew maybe.
>> But >> yeah, because of course it should just be using like the same Hebrew that the rest of them do >> the like the as like the current Bibles of today like the King James version.
>> Uh no, like the NRSVU. Like I would assume that that the way like the translation process works is that they have some underlying manuscripts and then all of the books are translations of the same manuscripts. I'm not sure what manuscript would translate it.
Also, um yeah, as people are pointing out, se uh does refer just to God as well.
>> Okay. Well, I'm when I look it up. Let me see if I can use my kid's iPad.
>> That's okay.
>> For the internet. But when I looked it up, it said um it was like a descendant of >> Well, okay. No, here's here's the most direct route. What's the Hebrew word there?
>> I'm not even trying to get out of this.
I just realized what time it is. But are you going to be on later?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. I literally have a church group I have to be in like 45 minutes, but I will be back. I will keep talking to you because you seem pretty levelheaded. So, >> yeah. Yeah, I'd love to have a conversation with you further. All right. Thanks for coming on. Appreciate it. Make sure you're double tapping on that screen share with your friends and all that good stuff. If you're in that guest request box, make sure that you're 18 or older and that you do think that there is something wrong with being gay.
Um, yeah.
I don't know. It's uh that's peculiar.
I've been reading up a little bit or I've been listening a little bit to because one person who I watch a lot of debates from, I I watch a ton of Ethan Muse debates. I'm like I'm like Ethan Muse's number one fan. Um and and he's like a Catholic and he's been like just slaughtering like Protestants and [ __ ] Um but you know, there's a I don't know.
I'm pretty I'm pretty convinced. I haven't looked into it too deeply, but he sounds very convincing when he talks about how church history like basically necessitates that the Catholic Church is the right one. That that Protestantism is like kind of like gibberish because, you know, for the majority of church history, most people were illiterate. They couldn't possibly form their own interpretations. They would have needed like some central body to basically like tell them what theological doctrine to believe. So, I don't know. Like, the Protestant method probably just makes no sense.
>> Hey, how's it going?
>> Hey, I'm not opposition. I was just getting on to clarify. I'm looking at the Orthodox Study Bible right now, and it's still right after it says, "Heed the voice of the Lord."
>> And it says, "Thus sayaith the Lord, Sabbath." So, I don't know what her confusion was.
>> She doesn't know who Sabayoth is.
Okay. Well, yep. Hey, currently have zero people in the request box. So, if you disagree with the prompt, feel free to hop into the request box.
>> Hey, how's it going, Brandon?
>> Hello.
>> Yep. Yeah. Uh, what's up? What do you have this time?
>> I thought I solved it. I'm so sorry.
>> Oh, no. That's so sad.
Okay, you'll have to come back up when you're ready. Well, I have zero people requesting to join. Somehow I have 400 viewers. You know, if you're watching this on YouTube, um it's Tik Tok. Uh my Tik Tok is allegedly Ian.
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I have a theory really quick before super chats.
>> Yeah.
>> That nothing is wrong with Brandon's audio. Brandon has just decided that this is a really fun way to to [ __ ] with you.
>> Is to just keep requesting up and then every time say, "Oh no, something's still wrong with my audio."
>> That's fun. I like that. I like that idea. Yeah. He's just a little bit of buffer.
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Vintage atheist, thanks so much for the super chat. Peak entertainment. I agree.
I agree. It's a lot of fun. Uh Melissa Melissa Melissa Sylvest, thanks so much for the super chat. It's the MAGA closet cases in the comments for me. Yeah, that could be. Um Whoa, Wolf Bane, thanks so much for the $20 super chat. That's pretty incredible. Um it's been it's almost my 2-year anniversary on e loving life.
That's great. I'm really glad that you found that. I don't know, like I think that that's like a wonderful thing that people should strive for. Um is, you know, figuring out what's going to help them live the the best, most flourishing life and then doing that. So, I'm so glad that you found that for you. Um let's get a big W for Wolf Bane as well.
Thank you so much. Big Flex Mafia, thanks so much for the super chat.
What's up, Ian? The sky among other things. Uh I don't know. There's probably a lot of things. In fact, maybe even up is just a relative direction, so it's kind of hard to say. You know, I'm I'm out here gberating, frankly. Um, okay. Well, I still have nobody in the guest request box. If you think that there is something wrong with being gay, if you disagree with the prompt, feel free to request to join. Otherwise, I'll have to fill the space, which is like the worst thing that you could do. Don't make me fill the space. I'll do it. Um, it's, you know, that's that's the it's the worst. Um, but anyway, uh, h I wonder do I need to like switch topics or something?
I have no idea.
It's so sad, man. I I I love how I said, you know, I will fill the space and then I'm like categorically not filling the space. You know, I actually can't fill the space.
Don't ask me to fill the space. Why the [ __ ] would you do this to me? Um, there's like one thing. Whoa, Bacon and Bush, thank you so so much uh for the the 20 gifted memberships. That's a lot of gifted memberships. I really do appreciate that. That's quite incredible. Um, yeah, I think that's rad. Let's get a big W to you. Big W bacon and Bush. Oop, sorry.
We'll get to Andrew in a sec. Hey, what's up? How's it going?
>> Hello.
>> Yep. How old are you?
>> I am 23.
>> Yep. And do you think there's something wrong with being gay?
>> Uh, yes, it is unnatural.
>> Okay. And why should I think that something being unnatural is wrong?
Also, what do you mean by unnatural?
>> Man should not be with another man.
>> It is man and woman. No, I understand that's your conclusion. But when you say being gay is unnatural, how would you define the term natural in the context that you're using it?
>> Like >> a natural how >> the way that nature intended.
>> Okay. I don't think nature has intentions. So that seems like kind of a gibberish concept.
>> Yes, it does.
>> Oh, >> it's how we reproduce.
>> What's the argument that nature intends things?
it because that's the way that we reproduce.
>> Do you think int do you think nature has like a mental state? Like intention to intend to do something means that you have it as like an intention, but that's a mental state. You're describing mental states.
I don't think that nature has this like big mental state whereby it like intends for specific things to happen. That sounds like nonsense to me.
A man and a woman are meant to be together. You can't be with another man.
>> Of course. Yeah, I I understand that that's your conclusion. I'm looking for like a justification for that conclusion >> because two men together is just not normal.
>> Okay. And it's going to kind of be the same question. Like when you say it's not normal, do you mean it's like not statistically normal? Like what do you mean?
>> Yeah, you could say that.
>> Okay. Well, I don't think something not being statistically normal is a reason to think that it's wrong. You know, doing like martial arts is not statistically normal. Most people don't do martial arts, but I don't think that that makes it wrong to train in a martial art even though it's not normal under your definition.
>> Uh, I don't think we should be pushing it on kids.
>> Okay. I don't know what it means when you say so. First of all, I I think I just I'm obligated to point out that the goalpost is is on like rocket thrusters, right? Like what a huge shift of the goalpost. At first you said it's not natural and then that claim fell apart and then you said it's not normal and then that claim fell apart and now you're saying, "Well, we shouldn't push it on kids." Who's pushing it on kids?
What does that mean?
>> Oh my goodness. You are You are stupid.
You think you think between the two of us people are going to come away with the impression that I'm the one that's stupid after a debate performance like yours?
Okay.
>> Lu, >> how you doing?
>> Hey, what's up? How's it going? How old are you?
>> I'm pretty good. I'm 19.
>> You sound like you're doing like a fake jeep deep voice.
No, >> he kind of sounds like Patrick.
Hey, how's it going?
>> Hello. Can you hear me?
>> Yep. How old are you?
>> What's up, man?
>> Uh, I'm 25.
>> Yep. And do you think there's something wrong with being >> Yep.
>> No, no, I don't. I don't. Uh, but I did want to bring up from something that the dude said about nature, the the past dude who left calling you stupid.
>> Personally, I don't think you're stupid.
Everyone's opinion is their own opinion.
You know what I mean? You have your opinion. I have my opinion. I'm not going to hate you for it.
>> Sure.
>> Um, the one thing I will say that he said that I wanted to touch on about the nature thing.
>> Mhm.
>> Nowhere in nature does it say it's wrong to be gay, but at the same time, what animals do you see that are gay?
>> Like a ton of >> This is just me asking cuz I don't know.
>> Um, so my understanding is that there's like a thousand animals that are documented as being gay. Specifically, one of our closest relatives is the bonobo, and they're basically universally bisexual. Like, they all engage in gay sex, lesbian sex. They just love having sex, basically. Um, so because we're very similar to them genetically, I think that it would just make sense that we probably also are are going to be disposed towards being gay.
Um, you know, additionally, there's like species. Oh, so and to expand it past like just bonobos, like literally every primate there's gay behavior observed.
I'm sure if I expanded the search out even like a step further into like like monkeys. I bet. I don't know.
>> Yeah, I was about to say the gorillas do have tendencies to do stuff like that.
>> Yeah. Like it just kind of seems like all of our closest relatives um Yeah, exact. Like Okay. Uh, apparently 59 nonhuman primate species, in fact, apparently in in like the Reese's Macau, 72% of the males engage in in like gay sex. It's it's just like super common in the animal kingdom, actually.
>> See, and I I would have never known this, huh?
>> Yeah, >> that's cool. That's kind good information to know, though. Like, man, I've been following you since uh I think it was like the start of your uh is God real journey.
>> Mhm.
>> And I mean, I I like the stuff that you say, man. You got a lot of good information out there and you you do give people a lot of knowledge that they wouldn't know.
>> Yeah. Hey, thanks. I appreciate that.
>> Now, I mean, I'm not going to say I 100% agree. I'm not going to say 100% disagree, but I mean, you do your job.
You know what I mean? And I I do like it. I commend you for it, bro. You're doing amazing.
>> That's very kind of you. Thanks so much for coming on up.
>> Of course.
>> All right, on to the next one.
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Hey, spawn killed. I accept your surrender folded like a chair. Um, okay.
Make sure you're double tapping on that screen. Uh, I only have like that one person who's obviously 12 in the guest request box and then Brandon. Um, so if you wanted to be at the top of the queue by the time that I read these super chats, you got to be in that guest request box. Okay, wait. We found one.
Hey, how's it going?
>> Okay, man. How are you? You okay?
>> Yeah, doing well. How old are you?
>> 45.
>> Yep. And do you think there's something wrong with being gay?
>> Biologically, psychologically, I'm not well versed on actually providing any evidence for that. But when you look at the results of LGBTQ communities, it's very confusing and it opens up a kind of worms.
>> Uh just that it's very disruptive to society. I think from just the way I see it from the outside, you might know better.
>> Well, that's true of a lot of civil rights movements. You know, you could say it was very disruptive to society when disabled people like >> Well, we're talking about the United States of America. There were no Let's just calm down there. In the United States of America, there were the there there were these things called ugly laws that basically prevented severely disabled people from being seen in public. Otherwise, you'd get fined.
Um, I don't know that you could say that these disabled people made people uncomfortable. I don't think that making somebody uncomfortable is inherently a reason why something is wrong.
>> I didn't say uncomfortable. I didn't use that word.
>> Did you say like disrupting society?
>> Disruptive. Yeah. Confusing.
>> Okay.
That's fine. I don't think something being like disruptive or confusing is any indight of the thing itself.
>> I think you need more specifics to determine if it's right or wrong.
>> So, for example, the kind of kind of worms it's opened is that, >> you know, now you can identify as what you want.
>> This seems like a pivot. Do you have a reason being gay is wrong?
>> Pardon? Do you have a reason to think being gay is wrong or is it just like a pivot to trans stuff?
>> No, it is what I said what it actually leads to. The consequences, the results of what it leads to and we can we can agree with that.
I'm sure we can agree with that.
>> Wait, what's confusing people being gay?
Why is being gay confusing?
>> Uh because a man, a biological man, you're a believer in science, aren't you?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, a biological man can claim to be a woman and we have to pander to it.
>> You understand that that's not gay, right? That's like a different category.
>> Hold on. Hold on.
>> So, okay. I think you seem a bit confused. You're kind of mixing up your LGBTQ plus identities.
>> You don't normally you're not very disruptive like that. You don't really, you know, start interrupting when people are speaking. Why do that? I start interrupting when people get confused, you know. I don't want to move through.
I don't want to just let you be confused, you know. I want to help you be unconfused.
>> You're talking about gay people.
>> Um, and then you start talking about trans people and then you say like these people are gay.
>> Well, that's that that's where it stems from. It's that's what I when I first opened up this conversation, I did say that gays lead up to all sorts of confusion. Uh it leads to LGBTQ and then want to teach your six-year-old about adult things. Then they want to identify as certain things. Then you answer the prompt and they want to know pronouns.
Like, you know, they're not simple. You know, we can simplify things. They're just too difficult and confusing uh disruptive. And that's you asked me a question. It's on the prompt there and I've answered it and we agreed because you were around and made comparisons with other civil orders which probably I can agree with as well. But at the moment we're talking about gays and that's my argument. Yeah. Thank you.
>> Okay. So your argument basically is like a slippery slope fallacy that if we have if we accept gay people then there's going to be a slippery slope that leads to all sorts of things that are confusing to you.
>> Can you tell me like have you have you bothered to actually like look into or try to understand like trans identity?
>> Well not going down a slippery slope but we actually are in a slippery slope because of >> have you looked deeply into trans identity.
It's just a yes or no question.
>> Is the answer yes or no?
>> Let me finish. Look, you are going to be let >> look, you're normally quite fluent in conversation, but today you're very, >> you know, disruptive and you know, you keep intervening midway. I'm disruptive.
I'm going to leave it today. You go and try someone else.
>> Okay.
>> Thank you.
>> Yep. Yeah, I was right. I guess we're not going to get an answer to the question, the the difficult question.
Have you looked deeply into trans identity?
All right. If you're in that guest request box, make sure that you're 18 or older. Make sure that >> Hey, what's up? How's it going?
>> I'm definitely 18 and older.
>> Hey, thanks for having me up.
>> Yep. Yeah. Uh, do you think there's something wrong with being gay?
>> Well, one thing I just wanted to say is I don't know if you've ever heard of a young man. and his name is Micah Turnbo.
It's a m i c a h. The last name is t u r n b o. And he was a uh a young uh gay person. And he claims that Jesus Christ literally visited him and he literally just took him by the hand in life and he never judged him, never condemned him, never criticized him at all. But basically now Micah Turnbo is known all around the world. He did leave, you know, he's no longer, you know, gay. But I mean, if you wanted just a good reference that you can look up yourself, just check him out on the internet, listen to him. He he still sounds, you know, he still has his voice just really light and gentle. He's very kind, a very good person. But if you could hear this testimony, I would just suggest that because it's like if Christ had that kind of attitude toward any human being, no matter what kind of issue that they were dealing with in life, I'll just guarantee you if you really believe what Christ did with Micah Turnbo, it would really touch your heart. So I just wanted to, you know, share that with >> I think that I think what to me is like the most interesting point is not what Christ did to Micah Turnbo, but what Micah Turnbo wants to do to Christ.
Apparently Micah Turnbo to this day goes into explicit sexual fantasies about him and Jesus.
Like he he describes apparently from what I'm reading uh like rubbing oil all over like a naked Jesus. I don't think I don't think Jesus >> that's what they that's >> I don't think Jesus changed him very much to be perfectly honest with you >> right but see that's just what if you just look at the surface of anything you'll always find the worst about everything in this world so what you have to do I just be honest with you so Satan has things set up in this world so you'll never ever get the truth unless you truly want it with all your heart because the devil will always have you see only what's wrong with something and only surface truths. So the Bible says the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth. And then it says that he will search the deep things of God. So any type of a prophet, apostle, anyone that's ever received revelations, anytime you ever look into anybody that's ever been visited by God, touched by God, their lives have been changed by God, the world will always give you the worst thing right away. And you'll always have that because the Bible says God will show himself fouled to the foured. So if you really want to know the truth, all I'm saying is seek it with all your heart. That's all I want to say.
>> Okay. It seems like Micah Turnbo seeked it with all of his heart. You know, he he wants to touch God like very deeply.
Um, you know, deeper than anyone has ever touched him before.
>> It It sounds like Micah Turnbo is still like extremely gay.
Well, I can tell you he's not, but anyways, you can you can check him out.
He's uh reached thousands and thousands of people for Christ, and they've all they're no longer gay. So if he remained gay, how's he led thousands and thousands all over the world that were gay and now they're no longer gay? So it just doesn't make sense. That's what I'm saying. So anyways, if you want the truth, Jesus said that the truth will set you free if that's what you want. So that's all I wanted to say, man. I want to encourage you. Just, you know, why don't you seek deep, you know what I mean, for truth and just don't let all the world tell you who you are uh and try to identify you. you seek your own identification and I honestly if you truly seek with all your heart, I'm just going to say you're going to find the reality of life. And I did that years ago and you know I didn't believe in God. I was atheist. I was a drug dealer.
Um I had many things going on with relationships and my life was just spiraling downhill and Christ came to me and changed my whole life. So, I've led hundreds of thousands of people to Christ throughout the world. And uh yeah, again, you have to do some studying. If you don't believe it, your eyes will always remain blind. But yeah, but if you study him, you'll find out the truth. But if you don't want to know the truth, you'll never find the truth.
It's just that's reality because Satan will always blind your eyes unless you really want it. But hey, you're looking things up. So already that >> we're looking into it. We're taking a deep look into >> straight micro turnbo.
>> Yeah, >> he's Yeah. Doesn't Doesn't this just like >> Oh, it warms my heart because I know the truth. But again, it's only what you're going to see on the outside. You've got to pray yourself. But if Jesus was that kind to him and and hundreds of thousands of lives have been changed around the world, as long as you don't want to believe >> this is [ __ ] like Luke Skywalker >> in that it looks like he is. Yeah.
>> Okay. Yo.
>> Oh yeah. No, Mike is different. I'm telling you. He's He's a He's a character, but he's a fun character. He really is a bunch of kids. Really cool.
>> Yeah. He's like a little kid. He really is. But I I think the purity of his heart is so precious and uh he's real.
You know, you may not think he is, but but he is.
>> No, no. I I believe that Michael Turnbo is real. Like he's definitely real.
>> Yeah. He really loves the Lord and he's had some I believe real experiences.
Now, I'm not saying every every experience cuz I don't think every you know, I don't believe everything, but you know, if you can believe 75%, you'll be in heaven with the real Jesus. If if you can just trust and believe, if there's some things that your mind don't understand, just say, "Man, that's a little beyond me. I don't know." But you know when Christ came, >> this is like my actual like face and experience when she hits me with like the double backhand like [ __ ] sloppy top like express like this is like actually what it feels like.
>> And if you want to know just um so I've written about 12 books and uh God for some reason likes to visit me in dreams.
And so I had a dream one time and there were two men in the dream. And in the dream I knew both men were homosexual.
And one of them he cussed all the time.
He was angry, bitter, didn't really like himself. And >> okay.
Whoa. Is that the goat?
>> Hey, what's up?
>> Hi. Sure. Well, let's have a conversation.
>> Okay. Do you agree with the prompt?
>> Well, we need to establish we need to establish a criteria of victory in the discuss discussion first.
>> Mhm.
>> So, if I could so if I could prove that gay is not identical to right, then I prove that it's wrong. Correct.
>> Uh I don't think that follows.
>> Well, it is right itself according to law of identity. A is a >> Yeah, I agree. Like right is right, but for example, like you might want to say that like rape is wrong, but you wouldn't say it's like identical to like wrong. Yes. Like you wouldn't want it because otherwise that was a direct contradiction identical to like murder and rape is not identical to murder.
>> But if you said we would agape is wrong in an accurate sense, that would mean it would be wrong in another sense. But in order for it to be wrong in one sense, they must both have the common participation of part of of being filed in the category of wrongness.
>> So what I'm think so here's what it is because I think we have you in an equivocation immediately.
>> Okay. I this is obviously gonna be false. So maybe I could like my point I could just put this.
Sorry. I know probably what you want to do is get in there and like make a mess of things.
What I'm going to do is just be very clear about this. So rape uh if if what we're talking about is identical. Well, rape equals wrong equals murder.
Therefore, like rape equals murder because both of them are identical to wrongness that follows.
>> But that's not my argument. It's all No, no, no. Here's my identical toing my So, you're stinging my argument to something that never came out of my mouth and you're assigning the meaning of my words to this is an argument. So, this is a straw man and this is an argument in bad faith. Okay.
>> So, right now you're strawmaning my argument and you're arguing in bad faith. I'm asking a question both of those things.
>> My my question is this.
>> If it's not to get a lot worse faith, >> if I want to demonstrate that being gay is wrong, all I have to do is show that it's not in the category of right.
>> Not in the category or not identical.
>> No, it's just not in the category of right.
>> Okay. That's different from what you said initially.
>> It shouldn't be not in the category of right in a special general case is to be identical in a special general sense. So that's contradiction in terms on your part.
>> What you said in the first case is that if you can prove that it's not identical to rightness, then you will have established that it's wrong. That's what you said. It's literally all something could be identical. Something could be this to you. Something could be identical. There's going to be the cut in the something could be identical in an accidental response. Something could be identical in an essential respect. If something is a particular it means it's identical in an accident. Sorry. If something's essential or universal means identical in a general sense. So in this particular instance, this is positive violation of the law. on your violating the principal and I think we actually have a contradiction which falsifies your own how does it feel to lose you >> how does it feel to lose >> doesn't matter I got you in a conte to lose I got matter I got you in a conting I have you in a contradiction >> I have you by the ballified the argument by showing that it violates sufficient reason in I have you ination recalibrate to refrain to get under your ethical system >> here's the argument if homosexuality is not right? It is therefore wrong.
>> It's not right.
>> If you refuse to admit that homosexuality is right, >> it is identical to admitting that it's wrong.
>> You do refuse to admit that homosexuality is right. Therefore, you admit that homosexuality is wrong >> to admit.
>> Now, if something is right, it has to be a universal obligatory duty according to the categorical imperative. Here's why.
Right is a universal category which all particulars of it have in common as essential characteristics. Now if it's a universal as a category it must be right in all in all cases in all contexts universally per the categorical imperative and if it cannot satisfy the categorical imperative it cannot belong to the category of rightness in itself.
Now, because homosexuality cannot be an universal obligatory duty in all places, in all contexts, that falsifies the fact that it participates in the universal category of rightness and pain of reductive absurdum.
>> Damn, I bet this [ __ ] is tough at like the [ __ ] St. Jude Foundation. That's like the worst argument I've ever heard in my entire life. You don't think that there are things that are amoral? You don't think there are things that are just permissible? something if I stood up right means it must be right in essence to be right to be identical to being right universally right or wrong would that be right or wrong something is going to be right in all particular context but because homosexuality cannot universally in all particular context that means homosexuality can't be right as a matter of principle and because we've falsified the idea that homosexuality could be right in principle that means it must only be right by accident but that's identical to being wrong by definition How's it feel to [ __ ] lose? How's it feel to [ __ ] lose? You're [ __ ] lost, Ian.
>> Okay, so is it right or wrong? Which you want to answer the question now, or are you Oh, he's still rambling. My bad.
Wake me when he's done rambling.
>> [ __ ] lose. Hey, Ian, you [ __ ] lost. Hey, Ian, you [ __ ] lost. How's it feel to [ __ ] lose? Hey, guess what? How's it feel to [ __ ] lose?
Hey, Ian, you got raw dogged. You got raw dogged on your own [ __ ] show.
>> Are you uh ready to answer the question or you going to keep on [ __ ] rambling?
>> Guess what?
>> Oh, yeah. Homosexuality cannot be a universal obligation such that it cannot participate in the universal category of being right as a matter of principle.
That means it could only be right as a matter of accident. But if it's right as a matter of accident, that's identical to being wrong in essence. Meaning that because homosexuality violates the categorical imperative, it is therefore necessarily identical to being wrong in principle. How's it feel to [ __ ] lose? Oops. Oops. You [ __ ] >> Are you Are you done? Are you ready to answer the question or you dodging? Ian.
>> Oh, he's okay. You can cry. It's not like Okay, I guess I'll I'll fall asleep again and you can wake me when he's done cry. It's all right. You're just getting raw dogged on your own [ __ ] show.
Like you got a hold of this. That's what I [ __ ] thought. Heyan, >> go ahead. You can breathe. I know you're in labor. It's all right. You're about to give birth. You're about to give birth to your first major. Good night.
You were [ __ ] cake. Are >> you done? Are you still >> Hey guys, I did it for all my homies.
You still done? Are you still >> question? I did it for you guys.
>> Maybe I'll just type the question on the board. And then if you want to >> All my good Jews who have faith in Christ, I did it for you.
>> By the way, this is like unironically the gayest thing anyone said this entire live stream. I accept your surrender. He won't answer the question. I was absolutely correct. He's not going to answer my question cuz it annihilates.
But didn't you get Oh, you got >> Sorry. Is that in line with the categorical imperative?
>> Sure is.
>> Is that Wait, is that in line with the categorical imperative? The fact that I got bukkaki >> is running away from the [ __ ] question and the argument in line with the categorical imperative. People like Apal uh and Hobberas would argue that it's not that when you engage in discourse, you necessarily presuppose a specific set of norms that preclude you from running away like a spineless [ __ ] This dude's like the CEO of being an invertebrate.
All right, make sure you're double taping on that screen, sharing it with your friends, doing all that good stuff.
Uh the question, just a reminder, is literally uh is it right or wrong for me to stand up and then sit back down? You know, to me, I think that's like a pretty amoral action, but under the standard that he set out, he's saying that everything is either strictly right, as in you always must do it, or like strictly wrong, i.e. you can never do it. Uh, but that's obviously false because there's things where situationally it's totally fine, but it's not necessarily good. And certainly it's not necessarily bad. I don't know. It's like a pretty basic point. That's kind of what he does, though. As he gets in there, he tries to fog the place up, but that's okay. Well, make sure you're double tapping on that screen, sharing with your friends, doing all that good stuff. If you're in that guest request box, make sure that you're 18 or older. Make sure that you believe that there's something wrong with being gay. And with that, we will go to the very next guest.
>> Hey, how's it going? Yep. How old are you?
>> 18.
>> Yep. Do you think there's something wrong with being gay?
>> Uh, and by gay, you mean?
>> I don't know. Just like attracted to men. Like a man who's attracted to men.
>> Okay. And then not women who are attracted to women, right?
>> Uh, we could do also women who are attracted to women. I mean, it is kind of an umbrella term.
>> So, gay and lesbian.
>> Yeah, we could do that. Do you think that there's something wrong with that?
>> And what about tea?
>> That's outside of the range of gay.
>> Okay.
>> Talking about the sexuality.
>> Wait, do you still do the tea topics or No, >> not frequently.
>> All right. Well, whenever you do those, >> do you do like the answering questions?
Like what's wrong with being gay?
>> Yeah, I would say it's wrong with being gay because if we're okay with say one person being gay, we should be okay with everyone being gay.
>> Really stupid.
So if if we're okay with one person being a software engineer, then we must be okay with everyone being a software engineer. And that means everyone's going to starve to death. So we must be okay with everyone starving to death.
>> No, we shouldn't be okay with everyone being >> So we shouldn't be okay with anybody being a software engineer >> because if everyone was a software engineer, there'd be no farmers and we'd all starve.
>> Yeah, that's true. But that's not the point here.
>> So then we can't be okay with people being a software engineer under your very own criteria. No, no, because when it comes to being gay, it's usually a limited option of choice. There's a limited set of options that you can go to, right? Whereas like when it comes to software engineer, that's just, you know, an occupation. That's just a job, you know, you can have.
>> To be clear, you are saying that just because we're okay with one person being a software engineer, it doesn't follow from that that we must be okay with everyone being a software engineer.
>> Um, I wouldn't say that. So, you do think that if we're okay with one person being a software engineer, that we must be okay with everyone being a software engineer?
>> Well, well, here's the thing, though.
Here's >> no question, by the way.
>> No. No. Um, I wouldn't say it's okay for everyone to be a software engineer, but it's okay for at least one person to be a software engineer.
>> So, so then you actually agree with what I said a couple seconds ago that just because you're okay with one person being a software engineer, maybe I didn't word it correctly, >> that you're okay with everyone being a software engineer. Maybe maybe I didn't word it correctly but there's going to be a distinction within themes right so for example I feel like humans have a survival instinct so suppose that everyone did want to become a software engineer oh well now that everyone wants to be a software engineer they notice that you know well everyone can't be a software engineer because there's not going to really be jobs for anything right if everyone just knows the exact same thing so people say oh well now I have to occupy myself in something else right maybe do something different like for example like suppose that a job was saying oh well we're we're going to offer offer all our employees I don't know like 20 bucks an hour and no one wants to join and now they're forced to like you know raise the thing and says all right 21 it's like oh how far can we go until someone says oh well I'm going to take this or whatever right and it's essentially the same way here it's like oh well everyone's doing the same thing well I might as well do something different which will you know uh benefit me and then everyone's going to have like all these different things whereas when it comes to being gay doesn't really affect >> I have no [ __ ] clue what you just said by the way I have no idea what your point does.
>> Well, it seems like you're not tracking, buddy.
>> It sounds like you're not making any sense.
>> I'm making sense. Nose breather or mouth breather.
>> The mouth breather calling me a nose breather.
>> All right. All right. So, essentially, it's like when it comes to being gay, it doesn't, you know, um limit you in any sort of way of doing things, right?
Someone can just be infertile and not produce children. Mhm.
>> Someone can be gay and choose not to have children. Someone can just choose not to have children and not have children, >> right? So, it doesn't stop. But I think that the idea of it, it's like if you can have children, I think that you should have children, at least try to have children as opposed to like, you know, >> and I I hate to ask like the debate pervert question, but can on what modal scope?
>> Uh, on I mean I guess like logical modality. I guess all modalities, epistemic modality, nomological modality, um, all the above, metaphysical modality.
>> So you think that if it's logically possible as in it doesn't entail like for example, so you would say like George Washington, like dead George Washington has a has an obligation to rise from the dead >> and then children under Yeah. Under like logical modality, I guess definitely the wrong modality to write a P not P would be, you know, logically possible. Well, let's just say metaphysically in virtue of >> you might want to say like nomologically like okay there's there's like some possibility in so far as like we're just talking about the individual like the human species or whatever and what they're capable of uh in virtue of you know um their kind or >> so the problem is is that being gay isn't a choice I think for a lot of these people no matter how hard you reject that okay here's a piece of data yeah I would love your explanation for this piece data. How do you explain the fact that when people get less and less genetically related to each other that they're less and less likely to be gay given the fact that the other one's gay?
So, I'll give you some examples. So, let's take identical twins. If you have one identical twin, they share 100% of their genetics and that identical twin is gay. There's a 70% chance that the other one will be gay, too. Let's take nonidentical twins. If you have one nonidentical twin, they share 50% of their genetics. um and this nonidentical twin is gay, there's like a 35% chance that the other one will be gay. And then if you took like a random person on the street and you know if that person's gay, there's a 2.5% chance that you will be gay. How would you possibly explain the fallout there?
>> Like why why is that hold even in cases of adoption?
>> Yeah. So like what's like the way they're like using this inductive reason? I guess it's inductive reasoning. How do they determine whether or not this individual's thing >> and then it's like how do they determine it? Is it just by asking? Yes.
>> Whether or not these individuals are gay?
>> Yeah, that's how you determine if people are gay by survey. Yeah.
>> Well, they could just be lying, right?
>> They totally could just be lying, but then you'd have to throw out all survey data because all survey data the people just could have been lying. You'll basically have to throw out like at that at that point you basically throw out the entire work of like scientific evidence in any regard for anything other than experiments that you've personally done because they could all just be lying.
>> Well, when would you say that you know a sample space or like a cardinal space or whatever is justified in order to make like some sort of like proposition.
Well, for example, a 100 people did this thing or maybe it's not the case that a 100 people maybe if it's a thousand it raises the probability of this thing being true. Maybe if it's a hundred thousand. I mean, can't I just say that all those things are small and therefore we can't make adjustments?
>> This dude is like larpour.
The [ __ ] are you talking about?
Cardinal.
>> Wait, wait, wait, hold up, hold up.
Well, like the cardality, the number of elements, >> the cardality.
What's the What's the cardality of like survey members such that the survey becomes reliable? Is that really the question? You you wanted to phrase it that way instead of like how many people does the survey need to survey in order for us to think that it's representative.
>> Well, it was a lot shorter if I just said cardality as opposed to saying all that. I would waste less breath by just saying.
>> That's literally not true because you had to say cardality because cardality doesn't summarize all of what I said.
You said cardality and then stumbled through the rest of what I said. It seems like I'm saying like a whole bunch of like, you know, vowels there. A whole I mean, sorry, a whole bunch of >> You understand that cardality doesn't cover all of what I just said. Cardality literally just refers to the size of the set.
>> You said it's based on Wait. Yeah, it's the size of the set. In this case, you're >> the size of the set does not convey the same concept as how many people would the survey need to investigate in order to be representative. These are just different concepts unfortunately.
>> Wait, but that is the wait the card could just be like um for example a sample size. You do realize that, right?
We can call a size.
>> I don't think that's No, that's not correct.
>> No, that is correct.
>> The size of the set of participants is what it would be.
>> Well, it doesn't matter. Like >> you would need to put it into the set for the cardality to be applicable. It matters because you're laring and every time you LAR and every time you use like a philosophy word that you don't understand and that you have like no warrant for using, I'm just gonna call you out on that.
>> That's set theory, buddy. That's not philosophy. Well, it is, right? Set theory is a type of philosophy.
>> Uh, no, it's not. Well, if you're just going to use it that way and say, "Oh, well, math is philosophy and all this stuff."
>> Okay. But I was talking about, you know, at least like >> standard philosophy and so far as like, you know, how epistemology and [ __ ] like that, you know?
>> Mhm. You know, they do like set theory >> like you'll find philosophers that do set theory.
>> Name one philosopher. Graham Muppy doesn't do set theory. For example, Grand Priest.
>> Grand Priest. But you do agree that Graham Graham Mappy has never used set theory in his life.
>> Grand Mappy has used set theory. What the [ __ ] are you talking about?
>> He literally had a math degree for his undergrad.
>> You're just lying. You're a [ __ ] larer.
>> I'm not a larer.
>> This guy's a philosopher.
That's like actually quite disgusting.
>> I I just I just came here to drag him. I was just saying a bunch of songs.
But I do think it's me. I do think like u being gay is wrong, but that's just like religious and I don't want to get into that.
>> Okay, that's fine. Well, this you're you're bological, right?
>> Uh who's batological?
>> Okay, bro. I [ __ ] love philosopolarers. I think that's the term that I'm going to push. I think that you should call out people who are like philosopher.
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Hey, how's it going?
>> Good. How are you doing?
>> Doing well. How old are you?
>> I'm 45.
>> And do you think there's something wrong with being gay?
>> Um, yes. I think that I think that you can battle um attraction and that's not wrong. I think that a lot of people should be in control of their lives and make the right choices even if they are you know um trying to you know resist those temptations. I think yeah the temptation of being gay is not wrong but the act of intimacy with same sex is yes it's wrong.
>> Why is that wrong?
>> Um a lot of reasons. I mean I could say do do you think that harm is wrong?
>> Uh by harm you mean what?
Um, I think harm in the world, adding more harm to the world when it's um when you could otherwise not.
>> So, that's not a very informative definition. Kind of what I'm looking for is like when you say >> please answer the question. I don't care about >> I don't know what your question is asking because there's like some criteria of harm. Like maybe by harm you mean something like pain. Do I think pain is bad? Not inherently. For example, you could have like a painful workout. I don't think that that's like necessarily wrong.
>> Okay, let me break it down. Let me break it down simpler so you'll understand.
>> Yeah, please just give like a semantic reduction of what you mean by harm.
>> If someone doesn't ask for it and you bring harm into someone's life, do you think that that that is justified?
>> Typically, no. Although I'm sure I could think of some cases. It pro again, it probably depends on what you mean by harm. For example, like if a parent takes their kid to the dentist and the dentist like drills into the kid's teeth, you know, that's harmful.
>> If I walked up to you, >> that's probably like painful. But I don't know if I'd say >> if I walked up to you and never had seen you or spoke to you before and sucker punch you directly in the face, would you say say I was justified in doing that?
>> No, you'd have like good primaascia reason to not do that. I just want to know what you mean by harm so I can tell you whether or not I think harm is always bad.
>> Okay, cool. So, do you do you think that do you think that there has ever been a husband and wife and and that man in that relationship slept with another man attracted a STI and then gave that to his wife?
>> That probably has happened and I would think that that's >> happened a lot.
>> I don't think I've said anything that would disagree with that. Also, I don't know how would that be considered.
>> When you say a lot, what do you mean?
>> Would that be considered?
>> Sorry, you just made a claim. You always going to be considered because he knows he can't defend it. So, now you're getting a question. But first, I just want to point something out really quick, which is that you claimed that it's happened after literally refused to actually clarify or substantiate the point, but sure. Yeah, it is wrong. As I've already said, I don't know what you think fake laughter is going to do.
>> I only say this because I learned it from you. Your back just got blown out.
Okay, so let me continue.
>> Do you think Do you think that if anybody watch seeing you like fumble around with like the word harm? Taught me that [ __ ] Liam, do I need to get as drunk as you are so that it's like a fair debate? Do I need to do some >> I love when people project >> lies try to make I will do it. Just give me a second.
>> Dude, this guy has to say that I'm drinking so he can actually think he's winning the debate.
If you follow this guy, chat. Wow.
Wow.
Hey chat, just so you know.
Hey chat, it's Molly.
I muted Liam.
is a self-hating white woman, ladies and gentlemen.
Okay.
All right. Your little your little girlfriend came up and moderated while you were gone.
>> Good.
>> Yeah. She said that she hates the color of her skin. She wishes she was black.
For some reason, I don't think she said that.
>> She's exactly what she said.
>> I I bet if I check the replay, she didn't say that. You know, I I'm I'm getting revelation from Allah. Even Allah is telling me that she didn't say that.
>> So, I'm drunk on Waterlue right here. Do you see that? See that right there? See that?
>> Why? That's That's kind of crazy that that's what you look like.
>> A person.
Did I Did I say that you look like a reject from Liam? I got to be honest.
Like a reject from the world. You're like way uglier than I thought you would. I thought you'd look like at least like six out of 10 conservative guy, but instead here you are like a like a two out of 10 like Cletus. You're like Cletus maxed.
>> Two out of 10.
>> It's probably over. Uh your parents.
>> Do you wear contacts?
>> No. 2020.
>> Then you should then you should start, bro. Also, why are you >> Wait, I'm so sorry. Wait, turn your camera back on if you think you're attract.
Why are you a reject from the Lord of the Rings?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> I bet I'm probably taller than you.
>> And what? I'm 6 foot. Are you over six foot?
>> Yeah, I'm six foot. We're the same height. So, if I'm if I'm a hobbit, then you're a hobbit, too.
>> No, I don't think you're six foot.
>> I am. It's It's literally There's like a like a video of me standing up straight, you know, when I debated Jordan Peterson.
when you got dogwalked by Jordan Peterson.
>> That's one point that you think that he went on.
>> I don't think there was one. I think from the opening Hello, my name is Jordan Peterson.
>> He beat you. So the entirety of it.
>> Wait one sec.
>> Final claim is that atheist.
>> Let me let me go ahead and like display.
>> If I was to say what point he won on, he won that he showed that you were a disrespectful young man. So he won on that aspect.
>> Okay. And what did I say that was disrespectful? accept Christian morality but deny the religion's foundational stories.
>> Look at that. I'm like the same height as like Parker. And Parker, by the way, is like 62.
>> You're so welldressed, though. I will say that about you. You are a a beacon of You're a beacon of fashion for sure, bro.
>> I know.
>> Come out of the Dude, come out of the basement once in a while. Seriously, >> bro. This fit this fit was [ __ ] fire, dude. This was This was like >> Yo, this [ __ ] was like a It was like a [ __ ] post, dude. I have like It's like the It's like the Sept extra large shirt. And then I I threw the tie on there cuz I thought it was so funny.
>> Dude, are you part of the Neanderthal crew or what?
>> What is the lock around your neck? It's locking in the stupidity as well or what?
>> It's locking in the win against [ __ ] like you. Every single time there's some sort of mouth breather like you, I beat them the [ __ ] down.
>> Easy on the >> locking in the the date with your wife later tonight.
>> I thought you had a girlfriend. She wouldn't be happy with that.
>> But, you know, my girlfriend wouldn't be going out with my wife, >> but you know, I think she would understand that sometimes duty calls, you know, she would certainly consent to it. And if she didn't, I never would, >> you know. So, I hope Dr. in the comments section cuz I was thinking about this one. You know, uh let's picture let's picture that I was [ __ ] your wife at at light speed and then you were on Earth uh watching us from the cuck chair and there's you know a particle of light traveling uh from your perspective traveling next to me [ __ ] your wife at light speed. You know, you would see me traveling with the particle at like roughly the same direction and pace. Uh whereas, you know, from from the perspective of me and your wife [ __ ] at light speed, you know, the the particle would have zoomed off into the distance. You know, from, you know, from the cuck perspective, it's going to look like we're roughly at the same location as the light, but from, you know, the the Chad perspective, the light is is long gone.
>> Do you like objectifying women?
>> No.
>> Cuz you just did that towards my wife.
Why would you do that?
>> Why would you objectify?
>> I know your wife. There's got to be a difference between D. I'm in that modality. Apparently, I'm in the cut chair.
>> I Oh [ __ ] He's so concerned about objectifying his wife when in fact under his own criteria, he got objectified too and had [ __ ] to say about it.
>> Like, calm down.
>> This is not about me. This is about you and dismantling the dismantling the patriarchy of atheism.
>> Whoa. There's no need to get upset.
Also, >> you have no morality. You have no morality.
>> Oh, you don't want to do that one. You got blown the [ __ ] out of there, >> dude. You can't stand up. We've, you and I have already talked.
>> Let's do a moral >> debate. We've had an hour and 45minute conversation and I dog walked the hell out of you.
>> Yeah. What's one point that you think that you did well on?
>> Okay.
>> So many points that he won't even be able to >> Okay, I'll tell you my point. I told you to to put up or shut up. And that meant show me your show me your documentation.
Okay.
>> In your book that you've written, okay?
Show it to me.
>> Why would I need that?
>> Oh, that's right. You haven't written jack [ __ ] >> Why would I need to? Why would that make my arguments more true if they're published or not?
>> Why would that make the logic more entailing?
>> Because they would be because they would be tested by the world.
>> They're already tested by the world.
>> Exam. No, they're not. You're a tick tock.
>> Wait, how about you?
>> Whoa. Calm down. You You're having a bit of an outburst. Seriously, take a deep breath.
>> I'm good, bro.
>> Everyone just heard it. There was like a rise in your voice.
>> I didn't have to object. keyboard warrior.
>> I didn't have to I didn't have to objectify women like you. Okay.
>> Oh gosh. Yeah. I bet I bet every person that interacts with you objectifies you the way that you get [ __ ] ragd dollled in conversation after conversation. You get folded like a [ __ ] chair. You know, in some sense they definitely objectify you.
>> Okay, back. Let's go back to the >> convers I don't think you're going to try to argue with me on rhetoric. I think you're going to lose in a battle of rhetoric. I think you'd be best sticking to the substance.
>> Dude, you know what this is like right now?
>> Yeah, I know what it's like. It's like a film.
>> This is like asking the the youngest kid, the most unintellig youngest kid in the short bus to have a debate, okay, with the smartest man in the world, okay? So, just stop, okay?
>> No way. No [ __ ] way. Okay.
>> Oh god.
So funny, dude. Oh, holy [ __ ] Um >> I Your weak insults don't bother me.
>> Oh, they clearly do. Yeah, I'm sorry.
I've like clearly gotten under your skin.
>> Let me make sure that I'm making it a fair debate. Let me take another sip.
>> I talked about less harm in this world.
I want you to stop harming women through objectifying them.
>> Okay. Didn't happen.
>> You did. You have a girlfriend and you said you want to hook up with another man.
>> I said Oh, yeah. Consensually with my girlfriend's consent, of course. And your wife's consent, of course.
>> You actually think she would consent to that? Your girlfriend possibly?
>> Yeah. I mean, the way that you look, I'm I'm [ __ ] sure your wife would consent to it.
>> Boom.
>> How How old are How old are you? How old are you, Ann?
>> 25.
I'm You're 25 and I'm 45.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. You probably can't even get it up anymore.
>> And I'm look maxing you at 45.
>> He does. He can't even use the word. Oh, he uses the words like a boomer. No, I'm looks maxing you. God, he's [ __ ] stupid.
>> Dude, I have more hair.
>> Let's get the guy that quote looks maxes me unquote.
>> See that jawline right there? See that?
>> I can't. Yo, let me let me bust out my [ __ ] microscope.
>> All my all my teeth. All my teeth. Dude, look. I'm Look, look at this, dude. I wish we could do a side by side. You don't have a chance, little fella. Okay.
You don't have a chance.
>> Let's do a moff.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't even know why you would turn your camera on. Like, that's actually humiliating.
>> Good luck with your wife ever saying, "Sure, I'll marry you." But anyway, let's move.
>> She's my girlfriend. If she's If she's my wife, she would have already married me.
>> Yeah, I have like a severe mental illness. your wife, >> then she would have already married me.
>> That's so that's if she's okay with you, you know, hooking up with other other men's wives. I'm not sure.
>> Yeah, sometimes sometimes it's going to call for it. I think she'll understand and if she doesn't want me to, I never would.
>> Okay, so I back to the harm theory here.
Didn't I didn't I didn't I tell you that um men sleeping with men have given uh women ST STI and actually even said that that's bad >> a actually even taken their lives. So >> okay and I agree with you. So we agreed on the first thing but if if men have would have never slept with men would those women still be alive and still thrive and have the rest of their lives to live on this planet?
>> Yep. Yeah. But you can make the same argument about a lot of things.
>> So is that unjustifa?
Let's just calm down.
>> Is that unjustifiable harm?
>> Calm down there. Take a deep breath.
Yeah, I would think that that specific instance is unjustifiable harm. But consider this counter example. You could have gotten something like AIDS. In fact, there's probably many cases of people getting AIDS when their husband goes and sleeps with like a prostitute, a straight prostitute, and then gives that to their wife. That doesn't mean that straight sex is wrong. So, I'm not sure why that would mean that gay sex is wrong. What I do think is wrong is having protected sex.
>> Stop right there.
>> Also cheating.
>> Yeah, stop right there, please.
>> Okay. Yeah, I'm getting pulled over.
Yeah.
>> Yeah. You're getting pulled over and f and frisked and handcuffed.
>> Okay. For the stupidity that you are, >> he's gonna frisk me, dude.
>> Slammed on the hood.
>> Do you think uh you think uh with all the frisking you're doing and all the slamming on the hood you're doing, you'd think that you wouldn't have any problem with being gay?
>> You're one of those first amending gay person. Dude, you're one of those First Amendment auditors gets drugged out of his car and hit with a billy club. Okay, so just stop talking.
>> Those people are dumb. If the cop shows up to you, you say, "Uh, well, I mean, if you're white, you say, uh, have a good day, officer." You know, I was going here. And if you're not, um, or if the cop is like asking you questions, you say, "I plead the fifth."
>> That's fine. I agree with that. Okay.
So, um, where were we at before you just got emotional and you're loaded with, uh, HRT? I don't know. Where were we at in the conversation?
>> You know, HRT just means hormone replacement therapy. If I got loaded up with testosterone, that would also be HRT. You realize that, you stupid [ __ ] right? Did that point go above your head? Maybe you're so so like hobbit sized that you're in track. Hey, good try.
>> Your insult completely blew up in your face. You know, I'm sorry that your lack of understanding betrayed you again. I'm sure it's a recurrent theme in your life. I'm sure the fact that you understand so little probably pops up again and again in your life.
>> Even the people that love >> It probably went above your hat.
>> Oh god.
>> Even the people in the chat that love you know that I was talking about estrogen. Okay? So just stop. The people in the chat know that HRT refers to hor hormone replacement therapy. And if you got testosterone, that would also count as HRT.
>> Dude, listen. you. No one ever says Ian is loaded up with uh with anything other than estrogen. Okay.
>> Yeah. And you know who loves the fact that I'm so loaded up with estrogen? My girlfriend.
>> Boyfriend.
>> Okay. So anyway, um so yeah, back to the harm theory. You said, "Why is it wrong to be gay?" Okay.
Now, what group what group of people um have the largest number of STI? Would this be um >> It's probably people in like the 1960s.
>> Would this be straight straight couples?
>> Do you know who has the lowest rate? I think lesbians.
>> Okay. I said which one has the highest rate of SDI?
>> Yeah. Let's say let's say gay people.
Who has the lowest?
What what are gay people? Are these lesbians?
>> Lesbians count as gay? No.
>> Yeah, I know. I But I'm just asking, would that be lesbians have the highest uh number of >> No, like like gay men probably have the highest gay men and then the lowest rate goes to lesbians. So, I guess like I guess we're going to have to jettison uh into the void of immorality uh both uh straight couples and gay men and then lesbian sex is the only type of sex.
>> So, it's so [ __ ] [ __ ] So it's so under the harm theory, it's just wrong to be gay if you're if you're a men with men, but women with women is fine.
That's that's >> Is that what you're saying? Is that your stance?
>> No. No. My my stance >> What's the What's wrong with being a lesbian?
>> My stance is that it's um immoral and it's it's uh all the way around. It's it's all the LGBTQIA plus community. All of it is umbrella under um you know I think it's all wrong.
>> But what's wrong with being like lesbian for example?
>> Um I think that it goes against the laws of nature. I really do.
>> Like what?
>> Like >> where can I read these laws of nature?
>> I think you and I are here because of the laws of nature.
>> Where can I read these laws of nature?
What are you talking about?
>> Did you just hear a word that came?
>> Yeah. You said, you know, it's wrong because it goes against the laws of nature. You and I are here because of the laws of nature.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Don't answer the question. Did your mother laws of nature?
>> Did your mother and >> never going to get an answer to that question.
>> Did your mother and her girlfriend produce you?
>> No. My mother and her husband produced me.
>> Oh, your mom and your dad.
>> YEAH.
>> OH, GOOD. GOOD little fella. Yeah. Good.
Good job. Is that Is that natural? Would you say that's natural?
>> By natural, you mean what?
>> Um something that something that's not forced that just um you know >> I don't I think a lot of gay sex is enforced. A lot of lesbian sex isn't forced.
>> Why did you you know how creepy it is that you went right there? Gay sex.
>> Wow. It's almost like we're having a topic about >> lesbian sex. You think it's insane to talk about gay sex in a debate about whether or not gay sex is wrong?
>> Yeah. Can I understand?
>> I'm like I I feel myself like slipping closer and closer, dude. I'm like fighting off. Can't call him ableist words.
Can't So you think that the male anus is um is equal to a woman's vagina?
>> I don't know what the [ __ ] equal means.
I'm not sure what that's referring to.
Equal in what sense? Along what degree?
No, because you just you honestly don't think that there are laws of nature. You don't think that things >> I'm asking you where are what are the laws of nature? What do you mean by that?
>> Are you saying like laws of physics?
Like what law of physics does being gay violate?
>> Dude, why are you so emotional? Why can't you just honestly waste your time like you're on the verge of tears calling anyone else emotional? Holy [ __ ] >> I'm on the ver I'm not on the verge of anything.
>> You sound like you're on the verge of tears. Stop. Stop. But the way I've been [ __ ] you this entire conversation, you're also probably on the edge of something else.
>> Are you actually are you are you gay gay curious?
>> Uh, it depends on your metaphysics of gender.
>> Also, one thing I just want to know where you're where you're at with the idea of if a trans woman >> Oh gosh.
>> is with if a trans woman is with a man, is that a straight relationship or is that >> Probably not. I think I'd probably say that that's a queer relationship.
>> Okay. I just want to see. I mean, you're pretty far out there, but that one you didn't answer correctly. I'll give you the W on that one.
>> Wow.
>> I don't know. I think I think any relationship with a trans person is automatically queer.
>> So, so trans uh trans women are men, right? That's what you're saying.
>> No.
>> No. Queer just means not straight.
>> But you just said No, you just said that there was two. That would be two men.
>> I didn't say that would be two men.
That's not what I said.
>> Yes, you did.
>> You have like a hearing problem. Let's just watch the replay.
>> You said it would be a gay relationship.
You said it would be severe tracking failure on your part. No, you just made >> I said it would be a queer relationship.
>> You made a boo boo.
>> That's just not what I said. Let's >> That should be under your world.
>> Whoa. Calm down. No need to soy out.
>> Under your world view relationship.
>> Whoa. Let's just watch. Do you think that the male anus is?
>> Let's check the replay. Let's check.
>> Okay. I just want to see. I mean, you're pretty far out there, but that one you didn't answer correctly.
>> Why did you go back to me saying male anus? Is that what you wanted to hear?
>> Uh, it depends on your metaphysics of gender.
>> Also, one thing I just want to know where you're where you're at with the idea of If a trans woman >> Oh gosh.
>> is with If a trans woman is with a man, is that a straight relationship or is that >> Probably not. I think I'd probably say that that's a queer relationship.
>> Okay. I just want to say I mean, you're pretty far out there, but that one you did answer correctly. I'll give you the W on that one.
>> Wow.
>> I don't know. I think I think any relationship with a trans person is automatically queer.
So, so trans uh trans women are men, right? That's what you're saying.
>> No, >> no. Queer just means not straight.
>> But you just said No, you just said that there was two that would be two men.
>> I didn't say that would be two men.
That's not what I said. He's [ __ ] hallucinating, dude. I've slammed you so hard that you're concussed. You're literally imagining hearing things that I didn't say. May maybe I've filled your ears with my rhetorical [ __ ] shots that you actually just can't hear properly.
You're You're so creepy, bro.
>> We literally just watched the replay.
You made a claim that I claimed that it would be two men and it wasn't. Right.
We We watched the replay and I just didn't say the thing that you claimed that I said.
>> No, dude. You just said first you said comesh shots in my ear. Yes. Then you then you record >> I'm going to give you more throughout the course of the conversation. Even more rhetorical shots in your ear. Then you recorded the playback to where I said male anus. Yeah. Because that's what she really wanted to hear. Okay.
>> And this is all leading up to you saying I'm gay.
>> Okay. And I know we're going to eventually get there.
>> You know you know two people can be gay.
>> You know it's possible, right?
>> Two people can be gay.
>> Yeah.
>> Are we about to Are we about to kiss?
>> No. No. Not at all, bro.
This is You're an absolute creep, bro. You're such a creep, bro. You're such a treat, man.
>> Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss.
>> Wow. Okay, where were we at? How are you supposed to track with this?
How are you supposed to track with you, dude? You're such a buffoon.
Wow.
Um, so yes.
Uh, you have been you've been getting funnier. I will give you that for sure.
>> Yeah. Why um can you give me your reasoning why being gay is not um is not wrong?
>> Uh because I think that in order for something to be wrong, it would need to be vicious. It would need to be unverirtuous. And I don't think that being gay uh goes against your virtue.
>> Well, I would say that in this community, I would say that uh domestic violence I think that the that the domestic violence is the highest in um lesbian relationships. That is peer-reviewed studies. We we all that >> I don't want to go out of the app and look for it right now. You can find it.
Okay.
>> Yeah. Let's look. Are gay relationships more likely?
>> I think it would be I think I think what they would actually say is by lesbian relationships. Yes, it's the highest amongst by lesbian relationships.
>> I've searched it up. I've searched it up a few times. So, I mean, I don't think there's really a a debate there, you know, women. Um, uh, no, it looks like it's around the same rate.
It's not around the same rate. It is higher amongst by lesbian uh partners >> according to the the US national survey.
>> Why are you going to the US national survey?
>> Because it's reliable. Because it's like >> I don't know encompassing.
>> It's reliable because it fits your narrative. Is that what you're trying to say here or what?
>> It's just like a national survey. My bad.
>> I mean, you have to you have to look at all >> Listen, you know, when I want reliable data, you know, I go to to the United States government and the national surveys that they do. And, you know, when you're looking for a good time, you go to Grinder. You know, we both have our thing.
>> Yeah. When I go when I want to get perfect accurate information, I go to, you know, um do I go to the government website. I go to Donald Trump from his mouth. I want perfect accurate information. I want to say I want to hear it from the horse's mouth.
>> Oh, I thought you were going to extract it from other places from Trump.
>> Oh, wait. Ag, are you speaking?
>> No, sorry. Um, and here here's actually you said lesbian, right? Um, but right here it says there are more cases of domestic violence among males living with male partners and among males who live with female partners. Females who live with female partners but what are you doing? This is not even right.
Females living with female partners experience less domestic violence than females living with males. And this is the NIH, by the way.
>> Yeah, you're slurring your words. You don't know what you're talking about.
>> So funny coming from you.
>> Um, so I mean, what do you make of this then because this is the NIH.
>> Um, I think that you're in a you're a by um lesbian and you're probably very biased on this topic. So, >> you came up here to rescue You came up here to rescue Ian because he's getting dogwalked.
>> What a what a great adome.
>> Yeah. And you're lot >> uh What do I make of this empirical data? Uh you're gay.
>> What would I mean it's very relevant in this conversation because you would come up a reputation of the data >> as a gay person. You think that even addresses the data?
>> There was bias. Yes. your biasy is is um >> Can you walk me through the causal chain there? Like what's the causal chain between AG is gay, therefore we can't trust the data that's peer-reviewed.
>> Yeah, exactly. It's called it's called being bias.
>> It's like retrocausality.
>> So let me So I was wrong. So Ag tell me that you're not gay. You're actually straight.
>> Oh, that's not the claim. I just want to know what the >> change I want to see. I could be wrong.
>> No, no. G A A heard the voice is gay. Of course.
>> Oh, that's Oh, wow.
>> For real.
>> How did I know that? How did I know?
>> Because I've debated you several times and every time >> I've never debated you before.
>> That's cuz he's always drunk. You always [ __ ] black black since he can't remember.
>> I'm telling you, these waterl these days, man, they're putting something in these things that are intoxicating me.
>> I'm sure that's what you're thinking.
I've >> Ian, I've never Listen, I >> Ian, I've never said that you're impaired. That would make me look like a bad debater. I think that you've been under >> I just sworn that earlier you said that I was the short bus.
>> I thought you said that earlier I like rode the short bus. I could be mistaken.
>> That's just where you are mentally in in your cognitive.
>> When you say impairment, you mean not like literal like you don't mean like a disability. You mean Well, it would be true to say that I'm impaired self-medicating. Drank like a like a bunch of uh fireball.
Yeah, you're you're saying this is self-medicating or >> what does a what does a wizard from D and D have in common with me at all the parties that I went to in college?
>> Uh, what does it have in common with you?
>> Um, your daddy and mommy are paying your bills.
>> You think that's true of a D and D wizard? Are you stupid?
You think you think a trait true of deizard mommy and daddy are playing their build just a Halloween costume the same place.
>> Do you have like brain damage being made by daddy and mommy? Yeah.
>> The the D and D wizard they cast fireball and me you know I I love fireball.
>> So you're drinking fireball right now.
>> Mhm.
And you're telling me as as I'm having a waterlue that I'm the one that's drinking.
>> That's just your chaser. We all know we all know that you have something else over there.
You know, I'm sure you have I'm sure you have Gregory on your one hand and you got the the [ __ ] handle of vodka on your other.
>> So Ian, you don't believe that there's there's a negative outcome where two male consenting adults. He's short circuiting.
>> No, being with each other. You don't >> shortcircuited to the top of the dialogue trade.
>> You don't you don't see any negative outcome.
>> Certainly in some cases there are negative outcomes. I don't think there's inherently a negative outcome.
>> Okay. So under your world view um two brothers that are related that are adults that love each other.
>> No, it's going to be wrong. No, there is something wrong with that.
>> Why is what's wrong with that? Yeah, because in order to live your best life, you need to form the most meaning ah [ __ ] meaningful relationships that you're capable of forming. And in order to form those sorts of relationships, um you know, one of those relationships is like like a familial relationship. So if you have a brother, um that's like a unique relationship that you alone are capable of forming.
>> Um you know, a relationship wherein nothing audience is confused. Try to be precise.
Okay, >> answer my question.
>> Familial difference. Let me let me be very unique and informative towards living. Let me rephrase. You can [ __ ] any person you'd like, but in terms of familial relationships, you should keep them familial in so far as they're like a unique connection that you have with another person.
>> So, would you like to get familiar with um your girlfriend as much as possible?
>> He doesn't know what the word familiar is. He thinks that I'm slurring my words the way that he slurs his words. If I meant familiar, I would have said familiar. I said familial. You're a [ __ ] >> Do you want to get to know your girlfriend as as indepthly as possible?
>> Yeah.
>> Because you're intrigued by this person's mind, body, say, I don't know.
I would say her spirit. Yeah.
>> Spiritual experience kissing that girl.
>> Okay.
Thank you, RC. So, you you Yeah, that's a spiritual connection that you guys have, right? Even though you don't believe in spiritual things. Yeah.
>> Right.
>> Okay. So, that's like that's the most amazing thing that happens is getting to know this person that you love even more in depthly.
Correct.
So why would it not be >> that that siblings under your worldview siblings know each other so well and then they fall in love? Obviously two brothers cannot conceive a child together. There's no womb there. Okay.
There's no there's no ovaries. So tell me how in your world view >> maybe if you had some ovaries you'd make a bit more sense.
>> Stop it be a bit emotional if you had some ovaries. You can't you can't debate if you if you're going to troll, bro.
>> Yeah, I can. Watch me.
>> I'm trying to hold your hand and walk you down the alleyway and you're not going to be able to >> I bet you probably hold a lot of people's hands and walk them down the alley.
>> You're going to get lost in an alleyway that has a dead end because >> I bet I bet you spend lots of time in the alleyway, don't you?
So tell me tell me the difference between two brothers and two and two men that are not related.
>> I think I I could have sworn I already told you this. I can tell you it again.
>> No, you didn't. You word solid nothing sounds like you weren't tracking.
>> No, we were all not tracking in your stupidity. Try again.
>> I bet a lot of people were probably tracking.
>> We'll give you round two. You got badgered in >> I love I always love when I get Liam for round two. Two rounds round two.
>> Yeah. Ding ding ding is the sound of me [ __ ] [ __ ] smacking him over and over again.
>> Ding ding ding.
>> Another another [ __ ] smack over and over again. He just [ __ ] loves the the feeling of my micing off of his face.
>> This was a Mike Tyson dick is like Tyson slap it against your face. Sometimes it does knock you out and nevertheless I I keep on doing it because you love it and you consent to it and you keep coming back.
>> Yeah. Nobody cares about your Jewish little tiny wiener. Okay, just shut up, bro.
>> Of course he's an anti-Semite, dude. Can you imagine? Like, of course he has like 30 IQ points. That's just like evident, you know, ASA. Frankly, >> I love you. How could I be surprised?
I'm just saying.
>> Yeah. Oh, I love Jewish people. You're tiny Jewish [ __ ] we known for being and I know I know my dick is teeny tiny, but it packs a lot of girth, which is why it has that knockout punch, you know? If you had if you had a long wiener, you know, you'd like lose so much in and the the [ __ ] like you'd have to really torque that [ __ ] Not me, you know. It's it's [ __ ] you know, it's explosive like Mike Tyson, you know, it's like straight. You can [ __ ] turn into it.
>> Two things can be true at the same time.
>> It's the knockout.
>> Two things can be true at the same time.
You have you have a girthy innie. Okay, so just shut up. We get it.
>> Damn. This is the guy that rejects trans people, by the way. is the guy who goes around saying you have a girthy innie.
>> Yeah, that's pretty much it right there.
That sums it up.
>> Uh you're you're a woman unless you're a trans woman, in which case you're a man.
>> Round two.
>> Liam's philosophy.
>> Round two. Explain yourself.
>> Yeah. In terms of why incest is wrong.
>> No. Why it's why it's different when they're related as brothers. So why incest is wrong?
>> Why would incest be wrong between a brother and a sister? Let's give you something easy for you. Why would it be wrong?
>> Well, that's wrong for two reasons. One, the reason that I already outlined that it destroys the familial relation. Uh and the second reason is because it has the risk of producing uh kids that are at a much greater likelihood to have like recessive genes or like recessive genetic.
>> Which one of those would be more harmful?
>> They're both harmful. They're both No, I said more harmful.
>> They're both harmful. I don't know how to weigh harm for a case like this.
>> You don't know how to weigh physical harm.
>> I I'm not sure of an innocent child.
>> Like the destroying of the familial relationship desires you absolutely both of them are harmful.
>> Did you just not hear what I said?
>> I did. Which one brings forth more harm?
>> I I think that's like a rough summary of the brings forth more.
>> Could be mistaken. Maybe maybe I was wrong. I I could have sworn that that's what you just said.
>> Have you ever beat me in a debate at all? Even close.
>> Yeah, I beat you in a debate and then I found you IRL and beat you then, too.
And then we we queued up for League of Legends. I found you in League of Legends and I beat you then, too. Um, you know, and then and then I found you in the beat picking >> fields and we picked beats together and I beat you at beat picking, too.
>> And then and then we played Beat Saber and I beat you at that as well.
>> Dude, you just spazzed out. You can't even track anymore. I slapped you down.
>> He can't even like laugh at the joke or take himself anything less than >> I mentally just just decapitated you.
>> Oh gosh. I got to hold myself back.
>> You're like a chicken when it head came off. Chicken's head came off and it's running out. It's running in circles, >> banging into the walls. That's what you're doing.
>> Chill out. Take a deep breath.
>> Don't tell dad what to do. Okay.
>> Wow. That [ __ ] was not rhetorical.
You'd think that you'd think that he'd stop humiliating himself at some point.
>> I don't understand um why you're, you know, a far-left vegan, you know, atheist.
>> It's true. All those things are true.
Like obviously true.
>> You're a far-left vegan. Okay.
>> Then you're far wrong.
>> That wants less harm in the world. And you're and you're arguing, okay, within a relationship. I'm not a consequence >> within a within within a group of people that are partaking in, you know, affairs with one another that is bringing more harm to themselves and society.
>> What's the harm? Wait, what's the harm to the self?
>> Uh STI.
>> Oh, sure. But what if they use a condom?
What's the harm to the self there?
>> Uh there you can still attract. Um it was still if everyone used condoms, uh gay people would still attract because it's not 100% moral.
>> No, no, I But like what if it's like a monogous relationship and everyone uses a >> condom again I win again on every aspect I win.
>> Yeah. Just because I agree with you on one thing doesn't mean that your conclusion follows. So for example you could say the sky or the sky is blueing and if the sky is blue then God exists.
And the fact that I agree with you that the sky is blue wouldn't then follow that God exists. If you're putting forward the premise that if the sky is blue then God exists. That's trivial.
Just because I agree with you on one thing I can contest that your conclusion actually follows. This is unfortunately like trivial.
If I if I had less alcohol in my si in my uh system, I'd be able to uh track the point that we were just talking about. Uh what were we just talking about?
>> You were talking about we're both in the ring and your trainer is the driver of the short bus and mine is truth. Who do you think's going to win the fight?
>> Bro, me as [ __ ] He's going to be in there. What did you say? The driver of the short bus.
>> Yeah.
>> I bet I bet he's so encouraging. Like the way that he spends his entire life with like disabled people. I bet he's probably like a really nice encouraging guy. Whereas yours is an abstract concept. You should have picked a better trainer. I'm going to beat the [ __ ] out of you. I'm going to whail on you.
>> He's not a guy. Why did you say he's a guy? Cuz Oh, you're misogynistic. I thought it was a woman.
>> I apologize. Women can't drive.
>> My My thought of the typical bus driver is a man. I'm sorry.
I fully disavow. Did >> you hear that, ladies? I >> I do have like the image of like the dude in like the [ __ ] like blue suit with like the cap on it.
>> Freaking misogyny at his finest.
>> It was It was very misogynistic. I'll go I'll go on my apology tour soon.
>> Wait, let me guess, too. It's It's definitely not going to be an Asian woman as well because you don't think Asian people can drive as well.
>> What the You're so racist, bro. No, it would be a it would be a a grungly looking white guy like you.
>> Unbelievable, man. I thought it would be a woman that protect children because women, you know, are >> grungly looking supportive of me in the way that he's very supportive of all the children that he drives to school every day.
>> Wow. This guy doesn't want to, you know, wants to bring more harm to children.
That's That's weird.
>> What? Anyway, yeah. Wait, sorry. Wait, what?
that I I want to bring more harm to children.
>> Yeah. Who harms >> Wait, sorry. Wait, wait, wait. What's one position that I hold that would entail harm to children?
>> You just said that that all male all drivers of buses should >> No, that this specific one male who drives the bus would be very supportive.
>> Why?
>> That's the image that I have in my head.
It's like some grungly looking white >> because it was a very supportive because it was a trans.
>> Well, if it was a trans woman, that would just be a woman. You're confused.
In fact, concussed even.
>> I' I've thrown out like these rhetorical flashbangs and you don't even know where you are anymore. You've gotten spawn killed more times than I can even challenge. You know, you have more spawn kills uh under under your your KDA uh than I have spawn in my testicles.
>> Ian, I will concede to that. I think you actually gave me the one two knockout punch.
>> I agree. I did. I hit you with the >> Yeah. So you actually So you're gonna So please tell me this. I I can't figure this out. So you're telling me that that women can have male genitalia?
>> Yeah, I do think that.
>> That's true on your view, too, by the way. I don't know if you're aware of that.
>> Oh, sorry. Wait.
>> No, I'm not going to give you the >> He can't even He literally can't even argue against the point. Spawn killed again. That's another death onto Le's Liam's kill death assist count. Got spawn killed instantly. And now he's begging for chat, but he he doesn't realize that all chat's going to give him is more rhetorical than cocky shots, you know, straight into the face that they've been giving him this entire debate.
>> Women can have male genitalia.
>> That's true on your view as well, by the way.
>> You're telling me what my view is?
>> Yes. Under your view, you would affirm that there are some females who nevertheless have male genitalia because there are certain medical conditions that lead to that. You're an idiot.
>> Are we talk? Do we do we um >> do we do we do we do we are you ever going to start choking in my rhetorical dick?
>> Is the world ran by the minority or the majority?
>> I don't know what you mean when you say is the world ran by >> I don't know what you mean cuz your claims are unspecific. You need to clarify them and I'm as dumb as a rock IQ test.
>> Yeah, go for it.
>> Why don't we take an IQ test?
>> No. Yeah. Wait, let's Norway.
>> I don't want to talk to the the most violent, you know. Wait, wait. Liam, >> I actually proved you wrong with the >> No, you didn't.
>> Okay, bud.
>> No, you didn't.
>> I'm actually the least violent. Thank you very much.
>> Yo, Liam. Uh, let's do the the Mensa Norway IQ test.
>> No thanks.
>> Oh, no. Sorry, Liam. If you if you don't take it, you're just going to get a bad score.
>> Don't run. Don't run, Liam. Come on. You said you said that you're the highest IQ here. that uh you know you dog walk in in every conversation. So just take just take the the the test. It's super easy, right?
>> Does IQ equate uh common sense?
>> It equates roughly to intelligence. All right, let's start. All right, go for it. Let me Oh, sorry. Let me help you out. Okay, which one?
>> Which one? What?
>> Oh, sorry. Let me um Yeah, which one completes it? I need to share Let me share the screen.
Share the screen. Which one?
>> Which one completes at F.
>> F.
Okay. For this one, which one?
>> There's no way, bro.
>> Uh, which one completes it?
>> Yeah.
Um, the question I don't know, D, >> I should have drinken more alcohol, frankly.
>> Dude, I don't want to do this. This is dumb. Okay, >> wait. Sorry. Don't run. Which one?
>> No, dude. This is not What is this?
>> Which one? Which one? There's no need to pre-co.
>> I'm not even into this right now, bro.
>> Do you want me to help you out with this one? I can I can totally give you the answer for this one. The answer This one's F is what I would presume.
>> Let's take it together.
>> No thanks. I'm good.
>> Okay. Wait. Let's I'll mark F for this one. What's What's going to be four now? Now, if you look to the top row, they're all the same orientation. If you look to the second row, they're all the same orientation. And if you look to the bottom row, they're all the same orientation. So probably it's going to be one of the ones that's straight up and down. On that basis, you can probably deduce that it's B or F. Which one between B and F?
>> I thought it would have been U D myself.
>> Okay.
>> Are are you trying Wait, are are you trolling?
>> I'm 100% trolling.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, unfortunately, you still are going to get the IQ. So, uh you got to got to keep it up, Liam.
Otherwise, you know, people are going to just remember this and remember what IQ you got.
>> This is not an accurate IQ test, dude.
This is >> You answer the first couple of questions and then you realize that you're going to look really bad if it comes out that your IQ is like 85. So, >> dude, my IQ, listen to me. This would be actually before we finish this. If my IQ was zero, >> just the just the question five, Leo, there's no need to be so terrible on you that you were actually debating with someone like me for this long.
>> There's no need to pre-cope. There's no need to crash out.
>> I'm not precoping. This is this is a reflection of who you are as well.
>> Who do you think is going to be the next one in the >> who you are, bro?
>> I can help you out with this one if you'd like. Like, I can be there. I can assist you in picking the right answer.
So you'll notice like the top row, the top row goes from this to this to this.
It moves by 45 degrees each time. The next row down goes from this to this to this moves by 45°. So we should be expecting that this one, the final one, whatever it is, it's going to be like this. Now, additionally, the arrows the same place each time. So what's going to be the location of the arrow at the bottom row? Except it's going to be like this. Which one? What's it going to be?
You got this, Liam.
You got this, Pearl.
>> Let's go with um F.
>> With F. Sure. Yeah, good answer.
>> Those Waterloos are really helping you.
>> What am I playing Tetris now or something? What is this?
>> Yeah. God, you tell the IQ. You tell Mensa Norway.
>> Dude, I'm so bored right now. Honestly, I don't want to just intelligence bores you, Liam, because you can't keep in the same conversation in my day.
Whenever I'm not done speaking, thank you. So, Liam, whenever uh like Ian explained why incest would be wrong, you then pivoted to like rhetoric instead of actually addressing the argument. So, I'm sure intelligence feels boring when you don't have a rebuttal, just like you can't answer these [ __ ] questions.
>> He didn't answer the question, though.
Agal circles. Yeah, you talked in circles that no one could understand.
>> It's because it destroys the familiar relation.
>> Nothing was No, bro. Okay. Because that would make >> Yeah, bro. It destroys the familiar relation.
>> And I debunked that argument.
>> Liam, you're you're on exercise number six. Don't give up on question.
>> You get less than 100 IQ points. Liam, if you question, >> do you want to help on this one, too?
>> Dude, I'm getting bored. Okay. I I know you're getting bored.
I know you probably often get bored by question number four and all the tests that you took, which is why you didn't get into a very good school. Um, you know, your your academic career probably didn't go very good.
>> How many more puzzles?
>> There are 29. 29 more.
>> Okay, let's just go through this. I'll say um let's go with E.
>> E.
>> Okay, let's go with um let's go with B.
>> B.
Okay, let's go with C. C. Let's go with D.
>> D.
>> Okay. Let's go with um let's go with A.
>> A.
>> Let's go with um C.
>> C.
>> Let's go with um D.
>> D.
>> Let's go with A.
>> A. bold.
>> Let's go with um C.
>> C.
>> Let's go with uh no. What are we doing here? Let's go with D.
>> D.
>> Let's go with Let's go with C.
>> C.
Let's go with um C again.
>> C again.
>> Let's go with F.
>> F.
>> I wouldn't have gone with F. Forget that.
>> Wait, wait, we can go back.
>> No, it's for forget. I don't care.
>> Okay.
>> I'm obviously I'm obviously trolling.
>> Yeah. Whatever helps you cope with the fact that it's going to be well below 100.
Um, let's go with on this one.
Let's go with A.
>> A.
>> Maybe not A. Um, >> we can go back.
>> Let's go with C.
>> C.
141.
>> Let's go with E.
>> E.
Let's go with um C.
Um let's go with uh C again. See again.
>> Um, A F >> F.
>> Um, God, this is so dumb. Uh, D.
>> D. Well, there's less than 10 questions.
>> Um, E >> E.
Let's go with C. C.
B.
>> Um.
F >> F.
>> Uh.
D.
A >> A >> C >> C I don't know, dude. D >> D. Last one.
>> Um, let's go with F.
>> F.
Your score. Oh, sorry. Let's Let's Your score is below 100. We will be expanding the measurable range of this test as soon as we have gathered more data. In some cases, this can be caused by plugins or other browser specific settings that prevent a correct scoring.
Liam, >> what did that accomplish?
You're not very intelligent, so don't talk about intelligence.
>> You need to you need to understand >> you're like three standard deviations below the mean. Like you should probably shut I think the frankly I think like the harm reducing thing I think the utilitarian thing for you to do is to shut the [ __ ] up for the rest of your life. Frankly, Liam, like I I actually think that when you speak you make the people around you like actively stupider. I think that you might be the Benjamin Button of IQ. That you started off you were born you had 160 IQ and you've been hemorrhaging IQ ever since.
You've been losing [ __ ] one nay two IQ points a year. You're on track for zero. zero IQ. Liam is 100. Liam, >> what is he? What does he >> average is 100 IQ?
>> Okay.
So, throwing a a throwing a IQ test at someone.
>> It's an IQ test. Leon, this is why you scored so low.
>> Oh my god, dude. Let me finish speaking.
Is this a grammar test as well over here? What is this?
>> It's I just think that it might all be connected.
If I've encapsulated an audience and your attention, built an audience off of the things that are coming out of my mouth and you're calling me stupid for entertaining you over here.
>> That's called brilliant Ian.
>> So did Trisha.
>> You don't know what that has cultivated an audience too. And she's like I have more clearly like popularity on Tik Tok than you will ever have in your life.
That's like obviously false >> in your youthful in your youthful little existence. You'll never have the link to this dude's profile.
>> So you can project all you want.
>> I think I have like >> project.
>> There's like 130k. I don't know how many I have.
>> Your breast knows [ __ ] >> You're not even relevant.
>> He has 2,000. Okay.
>> THIS IS MY MAIN ACCOUNT. This isn't even my >> Yeah. What's your main account? What's What's which account has the most?
the one that the Tik Tok uh perma band.
>> Yeah.
>> What is your uh it would be Liam without uh number one just >> Oh, Liam. Did you Did you forget that like you harassed Dean and Parker so much and that's how you gained a following in the first place was because you harassed you were up up there flirting with both of them for the last like four years of their career which is how you got any of the followers that you did. Why? Why do you always have to go to men flirting with men? Some type of a gay lifestyle. Does that just help you cope a is that what that is?
>> It's just what you were doing.
>> What I was doing?
>> I was I was debating politics with with young with young men.
>> Wait a minute. I wasn't I was there for the right reasons, madam. I was there people about politics >> and and social issues, okay, in our society. And these guys are up there for money and trolling. Okay.
>> Yeah. Unlike you, you know, you're in there with a good heart, a good spirit, up there to talk about the issues, the things that really matter. Dean and Parker, >> they don't, you know, in this conversation, >> you on the other hand, Leo number one, >> what what have I said that was hateful or what did I say talking about harm in society? I was like, okay, if it brings more harm, I don't think it's a good thing. talking about like same sex accatee, but I mean you want an example of something that's hateful. You could say, for example, that when you claim that trans women are men, that's an example of a hateful thing.
>> No, it's not.
>> Yeah, it is.
>> It's it's it's a fact.
>> Okay. Um, what do you take a man to be?
>> Um, spawn.
>> I think that >> spawn killed.
>> A man to me is um >> he spawned on the land mine.
Can I speak?
>> I don't know. Can you? Doesn't seem like it.
>> You would have to be speaking about gender and sex and how they're different. I would have I would say that that they align. Gender and sex are synonymous. You think that they're not.
Okay.
>> Okay. But what is a man?
>> A man is in three words or less. Can we do that? Can you tell?
>> I want to say I want to do the definition need to be three words. I'm going to three words or less. like turbo stupid >> and you're going to beat me.
>> I don't think definitions need to be three words or less.
>> Man is a human >> is is is a man a human?
>> Um I actually don't think so. So for example, I think we'd probably consider Superman to be a man or Luke Skywalker.
We'd probably consider Luke Skywalker to be a man or I don't know the [ __ ] or even for example like a Neanderthal.
I think if it was a neanderthal as a man a human being, >> we would probably consider like a Neanderthal to be a human or to not be a human but to be a man. If we had like a male Neanderthal, I think we'd probably consider this male Neanderthal to be a man even though it's not technically a human.
>> E I didn't want the W this easy, but I got it again. Man, this is >> unfortunately I think you're a bit confused. I >> mean self-proclaimed I'm going to have to be a self-proclaimed.
>> He's literally not going to answer the objection, by the way.
The objection to foolishness. Yeah, I object to >> Can you summarize Whoa, whoa, sorry.
Wait, could you summarize my argument?
>> Yeah, Harry Potter. Harry Potter is a fictional character.
>> Okay, >> we're talking about reality, right?
>> Wait, would it be gay for me to jerk off to Harry Potter?
>> Like the adult version? Of course.
>> Are you Are you an adult?
>> Are you an adult, Ian?
>> Well, I'm asking you. Would that be gay for me to jerk off to the adult version of Harry Potter? Are you an adult, Ian?
>> I'm an adult. Yeah.
>> Are you a Are you a human being?
>> [ __ ] spawn killed again, dude.
Literally folded into >> Are you a human being?
>> Yeah, I'm a human being.
>> You're an adult and a human.
>> Yes.
Would it be Would it be gay for me to jerk off to the thought of like Superman? Is that gay?
It's yes or no. Because to me, the answer is pretty obvious. You know, if I was a sign male at birth and I'm [ __ ] stroking my goddamn hog to the thought of Superman, that's that's pretty gay. That's a pretty gay thing to do. Pretty good indication that I'm gay or like by at least.
>> I think that's just part of your perversion.
>> You don't You don't think You think that it's part of my perversion to think that it's gay to jerk off to Superman?
I think that I Yeah, >> it's comments like this that lead you to getting less than 100 on a Q test.
>> So, you're telling me right now that um a human adult female could not dress up as Superman?
>> A human adult female can. Gender bends exist in cosplay.
>> Yeah. So, so you could be attracted to a woman dressing someone thing as being that thing obviously >> that's what being that's what being transgender is >> well what's the argument for that >> um >> that's also just not true for example if you want an example man that dresses up as a woman you can take like drag queens for example drag queens are are men and they dress up as women >> for for like a drag but everyone would acknowledge like well that's a man what's the difference is gender identity that's a great Jen, >> the the difference is gender identity.
>> Yes. Yeah.
>> So, how do you >> Wait, sorry, but you dodged my question earlier. Is it gay? Would it be gay?
>> Just shut the hell up and let me have more than no need to get emotional.
>> Dude, I'm not going to crash out. You're just being >> You're already crashing out.
>> You're being very, very inappropriate and creepy. You're not tracking. said that you were blowing my back out earlier.
>> No, I only reason I said that.
>> That sounds a little gay, bud.
>> No, no, I said >> play back the clip and see >> of me saying of you saying that you blew my back out. I could play back the clip.
>> I want you to Yeah, I want you >> stealing rhetoric, Rock, [ __ ] >> I I I want you to listen to why I said that. I said the reason I'm going to say this is because you taught me to say this.
>> I was jerking off to Superman for scientific research.
see what you're teaching your audience >> how to jerk off to Superman.
>> I mean, I mean, in retrospect, I mean, you've got RC as your highest, you know, uh, gifter here, and RC is a white supremacist [ __ ] Christian nationalist, Liam. So, I don't think anybody really cares.
>> Uh, RC is the goat. Okay.
>> Yikes. Supporting white supremacy and Christian nationalism.
>> How does he support white supremacy and Okay. Christian national. He wants the world to be more Christian. Yeah, I agree with that. Cool. I'm a Christian nationalist as well. Let's talk about um the YT supremacies though. I want to understand that.
>> Yeah, he has all the same talking points, but uh >> explain that. No, no, no. Go ahead.
>> Yeah, I gave you a concrete example.
Like, so for example, >> don't talk about it. Like the colonial genocides were justified.
>> Stop talking about him. Bring him up here. Unless you're scared of him.
>> Okay.
>> I mean, nobody's scared of RC. You don't platform him because he's a piece of [ __ ] >> Well, >> you guys are two PES in a pod, though.
Both can't track. You both don't have any arguments. Um, and Ian Ian slammed you so hard so many times that uh you both don't even remember. You keep coming back every single time.
>> I've only spoken to Ian one time. This is my second time.
>> It's twice, but I probably [ __ ] you so hard that I gave you a concussion.
That's my bad, G.
So, like I said, >> this is crazy, man. How all these gay innuendos that you keep throwing out.
This is nuts.
>> You know what else is nuts? What I've stuck inside of you multiple times up top.
>> Did your mother uh did she did she was she okay with you speaking like this?
>> Uh, I don't know. I've never asked her.
She watches my stream from time to time.
Do you still check in with your mom every day to see if your activities are acceptable to her?
>> I probably don't check in with my mom enough. I should. That reminds me.
Thanks for bringing it up.
>> I should. Yeah, I do love my mom.
>> Me, too. Gosh, just two guys who love their mom.
>> Yeah, I don't disrespect my mom though, like you do. But yeah, back to >> You think I disrespected my mom? How have I disrespected my mom?
>> Back to the claim that RC is a YT supremacist. Yeah, he thinks that the colonial genocides are justified.
>> You and him had that debate.
>> Yeah, you said that in my Discord.
That's kind of I think if I'm not mistaken, I know Lucy was there. I think that's why he got banned.
There was a time where he kind of like chilled out in my Discord and it was like it was fine. You know, we had productive dialogues, but no, he Oh, yeah. It's Lizzy.
Yeah. What's up?
>> Yes, RC. The last time he was there, I was the one who got to ban him.
>> He He told me I deserved to be raped and he told me, a Native American woman, that my people deserved the genocide and they deserved to die cuz they couldn't protect themselves.
>> That's [ __ ] disgusting.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> Pretty crazy.
>> And do you remember do you remember that VC that we had with him that one time?
>> Yeah. Um, he was playing chess. Like he apologized to everybody on the block team for being a dick. And he got to me and he was like, >> "No, you're a [ __ ] You get under my skin. I don't like you."
>> I do remember this. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I don't I don't think that um >> he would never.
>> I think so. You're native. Are you native? Is that what you're saying?
Native American or what?
>> Yeah.
>> So, yeah. I I think that the colonization that happened, I have no problem with it. I think that it was great. I think that it built the Americans.
>> You think the genocide was good? You think the fact that they like genocided they [ __ ] slaughtered like >> right here >> tons of people? What the >> No, I think that I know that Native Americans they gen They genocide.
>> Okay. So, I don't know what you're talking about.
>> This is kind of crazy.
>> It's trying to uh wipe out an entire entire race. Yeah. So, no, that never happened. Um because there is no Indian tribe that was completely wiped off the face of >> Okay, actually that's false. We had over a thousand indigenous American tribe.
Call them, don't call them Indian. We're not Indian.
There were over a thousand tribes. Now there's like a hundred. The rest were all wiped out from colonization.
90% of our indigenous people from the time that they came to now were wiped out.
>> Well, they also were paid for, you know, their land. They were given >> No, they're not paid for their land.
>> Yeah, they were. They were given >> No, they're not.
>> They own most of the casinos in the United States, don't they?
>> That is okay. Most tribes don't even have a casino.
So these these these these these casinos that are sitting on uh native native American land were paid for by the government by the United States. You know that right?
>> I just did wait sorry I just did a quick Google uh were indigenous people paid for their land. Indigenous people were rarely paid for their land if they were paid at all.
>> So that's just false. So we indigenous people were given land as compensation for what had happened. And then other presidents have reduced the land.
They've taken the land.
>> We don't get paid in compensation.
That's not a thing. And if it is, it's super rare and it's not much.
>> Yeah. One of one of my best friends lives on um >> Don't say it. Please don't [ __ ] say it.
>> Say what?
He lives up in Washington. I forget what um what tribe it is up there, but it borders uh what is your deal right now, bro? You spazzing out or something?
>> No, we just think it's funny as [ __ ] that a white dude like you is out here tokenizing people while being racist.
>> I have friends who are Native American while you don't know [ __ ] about Native American history.
I know that we I know that um we built the Americas, you know, and um I I know that um >> your Americas were built off of Native Americans.
>> I know that Native America I know that Native Americans were part of that and we have one of we have the best >> strongest most powerful society on planet Earth where everyone wants to immigrate.
>> Everybody thinks that we're a [ __ ] joke, dude.
>> Nobody is going to immigrate.
>> Whoa. Sorry. Wait. Do you think that genocide is bad?
Do I think that genocide is bad? Um, not not completely.
>> Jesus [ __ ] Christ, dude. Why would I take ethical advice from you on anything then?
>> Why would I Why would I ever want your ethical system? Your ethical system is clearly [ __ ] crazy.
>> If I was to advocate for genocide all of the Nazis, would that be a bad thing?
>> I don't think that would be a genocide because it wouldn't be based on like a racial identity.
Also, to be clear, I don't think every single member of the Nazi party deserves the death penalty. I think definitely, for sure, some of them do. I don't think all of them do.
>> Which ones did not?
>> So, okay. Um, for example, if you did not take actions that like directly like you were not like the executioner, um, I think probably you should get like life in jail. I don't know if you should get the death penalty if you did not personally kill someone or like order the killing of someone.
>> So you so you um went to um a driveby pew pewing and you were the one that drove the vehicle. You're the one that plotted this whole thing with all of your friends.
>> Oh and they if you plotted it then you should get the death penalty.
>> But if you were just a driver, I think life in jail is fine. So, you should have taxpayers uh pay for your TV and you're exercising and you're working and you're working out to taxpayers to do the death penalty than it does to just keep people in jail, right?
>> It's literally more expensive to >> Why is that? Because of a broken appeals process. He wants fewer appeals. He thinks people on death fewer appeals. He wants to execute more innocent people.
>> Oh, everyone that's been criminally charged is innocent.
>> I didn't say that. 12% >> except for Donald Trump, right? Except for Trump, right?
>> He's guilty. He was found guilty civily liable.
>> He's guilty. But >> wait, sorry. Why did the uh why did the court find him civily liable?
>> If Donald Trump was black, he would be innocent on all charges, right?
>> No.
>> No.
>> Nope.
>> Would it be different if his skin was was black, though?
>> Why would it not? because the jury still finds him guilty on the basis of the evidence that you know if the reason why they find him guilty is because of the evidence then yeah it's still the same thing.
>> So there's some horrendous black individuals that are in prison that um that probably should be on on Drow.
>> What are you asking? Are there people in prison who should be on death row? Is there black individuals who have done terrible things that should be on DO is what I'm asking?
>> Possibly.
>> Possibly.
>> Yeah. There's like probably some people who are black who think OJ was one of those way you think OJ Simpson was.
>> Honestly, maybe that might be a good example of a person in the same way that there are white people who have committed horrific crime to be on death row. It's almost like we can't cherryick race.
>> Which is why it's weird that you're cherrypicking. Yeah. It's weird that you brought up race. Yeah. That's why, you know, we can't cherrypick >> and you're the one that brought that up.
>> It's almost like you got backhanded again, huh?
>> You think you think getting [ __ ] spawn killed on another topic is another win for you? Is that Is that a win in your book? You I don't know if you remember this, but the way the conversation went is you said, "If Donald Trump were black, then he would have been found innocent or you would think that he's innocent." And I said, "No, I wouldn't." So, you were the one that brought it to race. I don't know if you remember that. You got beat the [ __ ] down on another point, which is just a running theme in your life.
>> Are you a self-proclaimed Victor?
>> Yeah.
>> Your mommy taught you.
>> Yeah, I won.
>> Is that what your mommy said [ __ ] out of you? Yeah.
>> I I have enough awareness about of my debate performance to know that you got >> like genuinely eviscerated on like every single topic that we debated. Like we might actually be sitting at like 16.
>> No one captures your attention the way that I do, Snowflake. Okay.
>> And you know what? I I learned this from, you know, one of my best friends, Deathless Light. You know, I just headbutted your [ __ ] teeth down your throat. How does it feel to lose? You lost. How does it feel to lose?
>> Is that why your forehead looks the way that it does? Because you headbutt.
>> It's because of all my [ __ ] knowledge, dude. It's why my forehead is so massive. You know, my head is massive the the same way that your wife gives me massive head >> after I'm done [ __ ] you.
>> Oh my gosh, bro. You're so >> Now he's gonna Now he's going to pearl clutch. You know, he wants to cry bully.
You know, he wants to bully, but when he gets bullied back, when somebody comes along who's a better bully than he is, that he wants to cry. You know, he wants to bully until he gets bullied and then he doesn't want bullies to exist anymore.
>> Have you been bullied today, Ian, by me?
I think you've tried to, but it hasn't gone well for you.
>> I've been bullying you. Is that what's >> I think you've tried to. I think that that was your intention. No.
>> And you got beat the [ __ ] down every single time that you tried it. Every single person saw it. It's all on recording. In fact, probably >> Now you're just crying. Now you're just crying up here.
>> You think between the two of us clutching you? After you tried to do the [ __ ] that you've done throughout the last hour, you can't now back up to try to be like a bigger man. You've been rolling around in the mud the entire time with me. You can't now act like your hands are clean.
>> Ian, listen. Nobody thinks you're the bully on the playground again.
>> Oh, yeah. Bro, you think that I'm the bully, and I bet your wife probably thinks I'm the bully, too.
>> I'm glad that you're entertained, bro.
But listen, I'm bored. I'm bored.
>> Yeah, he's just above all of this.
>> I am bored.
>> If you're bored, I'm I'm totally fine with that. Make sure you're double tapping on that screen, doing all that good stuff.
Liam the [ __ ] goat. I'm glad that he turned on his camera so that we can turn him into a thumbnail. I'd say that he's like a soy jack. I'd say, you know, we should find like a soy jack equivalent for him. He already looks like a soy jack, though.
Whoa, Tiffany, if you want to hop in the If you want to hop up and debate, you're more than welcome to. I suspect you'll pipe the [ __ ] down, though.
Three revenge. Thanks so much for the super chat. Cletus looks like he nibbles cheese exclusively with his front and two teeth. True. He looks like a like a background character from Fleshed Away.
Sneaky skeleton. Thanks so much chat.
I've seen Liam get rolled on political lives before, but I've never seen him get rhetorically decimated like he has today. Yeah, Liam's fun because he has like a lot of spirit. He's very stupid.
That's I think that's like the ideal debate opponent. Very stupid, but they're very aggressive. They're easy to like push off balance and in fact it's like quite entertaining, too.
D20, thanks so much for the super chat.
It just leaves more women to all the other men. What on earth is this guy's problem? Having a bigger dating pool.
True.
I took the test and got 85. No, you didn't. It doesn't show you what score you got if you got below 100. That person's lying. Sorry, that wasn't the super chat to be clear. Um, Wolf Bane, thanks so much for the super chat. So many people want to talk about trans when the topic's about being gay. Yeah, it's because I think it's like an easier win for them.
Yeah, Tiffany did pipe the [ __ ] down.
That's crazy. I for Brendan. Thanks so much for the super chat. I think I can speak for most of us uh when I say we track you, Ian. And I track you. I forb been Alexander Foy, thanks so much for super chat. I hope your stream can teach young people that being gay is okay so they don't end up like this guy in the future. Uh, can I get a good book recommendation? I have a long drive tomorrow. Uh, Michael Humor's Knowledge, Reality, and Value. That's a good book.
It's like an audio book. Um, what is it? It's uh Julia Anna's Intelligent Virtue is also fantastic.
I've been recommending it a lot.
Although it it might be like too niche, but I actually think that it's like I think it's like mad interesting. The idea that you should understand like virtue like um as if it's like a skill.
I think that that's like true and interesting and novel.
Uh Sue Sujaner, thanks so much for the super chat. Ian, shout out or Ian, shout out of a cannon. Love it. Absolutely.
Oh, wait. Sorry. Okay, here's what I'm gonna do. I just posted my newest video.
Uh oh, [ __ ] me, dude.
God [ __ ] damn it.
I forgot to upload the thumbnail.
Me and my generalized incompetence.
Dude, [ __ ] my baka life, man.
>> Waka waka.
Uh, how do I Damn.
Sorry, Molly. I guess only one of them's going to get tested out.
Okay. But it is up on my YouTube channel. You guys should all go check it out. It's the the one where uh me and my friends uh like stomp the [ __ ] out of this dude for like a protracted period of time. Um it's the one against I think his name is like American Defender or something. Um >> she was um she was in a live with some dude I think named Divinity. He's also a larer because apparently he's >> Oh true. Oh true.
>> He he literally argued for prochoice are larers for sure.
>> Bro, you can't he literally was arguing for pro-choice. You can't you can't do this. It can't be the case that you like name drop people and then every single one of them comes up one at a time and like beats the [ __ ] out of you. Like this just can't happen.
>> Yeah. How old are you?
>> I'm 19.
>> And do you think there's something wrong with being gay?
>> I do.
>> Okay. What do you think's wrong with being gay?
>> Yep. Um we we humiliate this dude.
>> Was that when court came up?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Bet.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. Um, Kane Malice, thanks so much for the tube chat. One v one me uh in mid Ian. Uh, my bae Leblanc versus whatever. You'd probably win. It's been so long.
Sujaneer, thanks so much for chat. Whose IQ is higher? Um, high pitch Eric or Liam? True. How the [ __ ] do you know about Eric? How do people in my community know about Eric?
I know I've like shilled him like excessively.
That's like That's like elite ball knowledge to know about high pitch Eric.
Eric with a K, too. So, it's like that's how you know it's the real Eric.
>> Isn't Eric at the top?
>> H.
>> Or is that Apollo? Who would you rate Apollo or Eric or Synth?
>> Uh, Apollo. Easy. Or no, wait. [ __ ] Sorry. Eric. Easy. Eric. Um, >> yeah. Apologies. Eric is at the top.
>> Uh, synth is like Synth is like mad good at debate. like total respect for her.
Um, and then I think Apollo I think Apollo is pretty good. Um, I I don't I don't think Apollo is as good as Eric though. Um, I I haven't seen enough I've also seen him take like some bad losses to synth. Although I'd probably need to rewatch, but I'm like a huge like I'm like a diehard Eric fan. Um, I think like Eric got a better mic.
>> True.
>> Every time every time I listen to him I'm like bro [ __ ] sucks. It's almost like M's >> It's like M's bad mic.
>> True. Yeah. M's pre pretty pre pretty good mic. Um, but if you want like a really good synth debate on Phil Library, >> I've watched this debate like I swear to God I've watched it like eight times.
Um, uh, synth versus flow on Phil Library. It's just fantastic. Like >> what's the topic?
>> Um, it's just like synth doing rhetoric mostly.
>> That's so funny.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Can you ever send it to me? Yeah, I can send that to you.
>> Is it like a what?
>> I could I could totally send that to you. Yeah, >> there was one that you uh you sent me and it was like Minecraft in the background because you were talking about uh the rhetoric was really good.
>> Yeah, I don't know if there was that one.
>> Yeah, that was Eric versus um Apollo.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um that one's pretty good. But no, no, this one came out recently.
Um D20, thanks so much for the super chat. Um, if you are bored with intelligence, does it mean that you're excited with stupidity? I think so.
Spaghetti, thanks so much for the super chat. The $20 super chat. That's incredible. $20 super chat. That's really, really cool.
It appears Liam has been visited by the mind goblin.
They call They call his wife the mind goblin. the way she'd be gobbling up all this head.
Big country, thanks so much for tube chat. I'm I can't say that. Um, black American and I support Christian nationalism in America. What's the issue? It's false. You should believe true things.
Hope that helped.
Um, okay. Yep. My newest video is live. It's um I debate like a homophobic and we humiliate him for the better part of two hours. I would absolutely love to see you. What's up, Bacon and Bush? Thanks so much for the the $5 super chat. I learned it from you, Dad. I learned from watch by watching you. That's great.
Thanks. Uh, Warm Maha, thanks so much for the the uh sub, the gifted sub to Pixel Mixer. Welcome. Welcome to the community, Pixel Mixer. Thanks for the gifts, all of you. Uh, Briel be here. I got P's and RC. Thanks so much for the super chat.
All right, heading on out. See you all later. See you at the book club. Book club's this Saturday, 8:00 p.m. EST. Got to read the veganism chapter of Michael Humer's knowledge, reality, and value.
It's going to be so [ __ ] lit, dude.
I'm I'm brought to tears. Tears thinking about how good the chapter is. It's going to be an incredible chapter.
It's You'll You'll love it. I'll love it.
I'm like a little bit tipsy. Not as tipsy as I was earlier in the debate.
This guy forged. You have You have two days, Goatman. And if not, I'll dox you.
I I swear to God, I'll [ __ ] dox you.
In fact, no need. I'll just hit you with a car myself, you know? I'll I'll I'll release first, middle, last name.
Yeah. Yeah. There is like the random rler.
He uses it in the way that like old [ __ ] use it to refer to like disabled people. Um but you know, I just about that. But yeah, it's a good chapter nevertheless.
It's out of [ __ ] nowhere. Sticks out like a sore thumb. bad writing even.
You're right. Your pros shouldn't do that.
Anyway, [ __ ] Michael Humor. All my homies hate Michael Humor.
Okay, I'll see you all at book club later. Check out my new video.
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