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You know, we just talked about some great news for a couple of films at the box office. Well, now it's time to talk about The Mandalorian and Grou.
The Mandalorian and Grou just came in third place at the weekend box office, which is not terrible. That that's not awful, especially in its, you know, uh, not in its opening weekend.
But the movie dropped nearly 70% from weekend one to weekend two.
The movie obsession which was you know behind it has now become a usurper and taken its spot. So back rooms is number one but obsession took the number two spot from it which is and remember Mandalorian and Grou opened to $81.6 million. Obsession opened to $17 million. Obsession is now past it.
>> I mean, and overall box office Mandalorian GU is still comfortably ahead of it, but >> I mean, it's now ahead of it drop 70%. I was just talking a little bit earlier how, >> you know, to for context, when you're talking about a second weekend at the box office, you're generally looking at a 50 to 60% drop in weekend two. If you fall between 50 and 60%, that's kind of par for the course. You drop less than 50, throwing a party. You drop more than 60, it's worrisome. You drop more than 65, somebody might be losing their job.
This may not be the way.
That's great. You drop 70%.
That tells you nobody wanted to come back to watch your movie again except this idiot who saw it five times.
And nobody told other people to go see it.
And Rob, to me, this is the manifestation of what we have been saying all year was our big concern about this, which was, how are you making your first return to the movie theaters for Star Wars in seven years with just a glorified expansion episode of the television series, a series which had its worst outing in its last series.
I think because I think depending regardless of how much you like or don't like the third season I think everybody agrees the third season was the weakest even if you really like it like you probably agree that the third season was the weakest and so sure it's a Star Wars title so that first weekend a lot of people curious to check it out third weekend backrooms and obsession it and that's a problem that's a real problem that tells you people did not go back to see it a second time. They didn't bring other friends to come see it like they are for Obsession and they probably recommended to people not to go see it and the word of mouth has been pretty cool. It's been it's been like icy cool on the whole thing. Now, I myself I don't hate this movie. Uh I don't particularly like it, but there are certainly things about it, Rob, that I like. There are certainly moments and sections of the film that I think are actually quite enjoyable. The problem is there's also a bunch that aren't. And I thought I would take a minute after seeing it for the fifth time last night that I wanted to throw out there not things that are wrong with the movie, but specifically Rob, logic problems with the movie. Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. I'm ready.
>> Top five logic problems.
>> So, I'm going to give two honorable mentions, or should I say dishonorable mentions >> of what I find with logic problems in this. Okay, by the way guys, I should give you a warning. I'm going to go into some spoilery detail on the movie.
According to the box office, none of you are going to see it anyway, but I do want to give you guys just a little bit of a warning that I'm going to have some spoilers in here for The Mandalorian and Grou. Okay. So, Rob, I want your reaction to each of these. First, my dishonorable mentions. All right.
Right. At the beginning of the movie, Mando is going to take out this Imperial warlord on that snow planet. Right.
>> Sure.
>> And as a last ditch resort, the Imperial Warlord gets into a ship to fly away, but by that point, Mando was already in the walker could shoot him down. Why did the guy not just immediately get in a ship and fly away?
Why, knowing that the Mandalorian was there to kill him, why didn't he just start with, "Hey, you know what? I think I'll get in one of my many available spaceships and fly away." No, no, no.
You know what's a better plan? I'm going to get in this huge oversized walker and precariously make my way down this thin ridge on the side of a mountaintop where we are fishing a barrel.
I I that one to me is just again and that's not even one of the worst. This is just one of the honorable mentions >> because >> that made no sense to me whatsoever.
>> That's easy. Easy. If you didn't if you if you didn't have that, you wouldn't have gotten that awesome shot of the AT-AT fall. So like he had to get in the AT-AT, John, because they wouldn't have had that awesome shot of the AT falling off the cliff. See, the shots dictate the logic.
>> You're talking about wanting the That's the thing, but you have to make logic that like They taught us when I was taking that uh the film the Dove SS Simmons course that that Quent Tarantino recommended. When I took that film course, one of the big things he said is you always have to be able to answer the why, right? Even if you don't put the why on screen explicitly, if something happens, you have to give at least the implied reason of why that's happening.
And as I'm watching, for the very first time I watch this movie, I'm like, "Oh, he's got a sh Why didn't he just get in that in the first place?" Anyway, so that's that's one logic thing to make.
The second honorable mention to me that made no logical sense is this.
The Huts now have Mando. They've captured him. You know, the the other bounty hunters captured him and they take his helmet and one of the twins goes out of his way to say, "Ah, Mandalorian steel. Priceless."
Yeah. Okay. Pric. Wow. You're a crime lord. You This is priceless. What's the first thing he does? Tosses the helmet back into the pit. I'm like, "Oh, you know why? Here's the logic. Because we only have Pedro Pascal for one day on set. We got Pedro Pascal for like one day, so better give him his helmet back quick." But it made it made no sense.
Here's your helmet back. That made no sense. But again, that's just an honorable mention. That just an honorable mention.
Let me get into the five really big logic problems that that just left me in the theater every time I saw this movie going, "What? Why did that happen?"
Okay, this is number five.
Uh, Gator, the uh the creature in the swamp who likes catching fish, right?
Why did the bounty hunter show up, Rob?
Why did he show up and not just say, "I'm looking for a Mandalorian. Have you seen it?" No, no, no, no, no. You know what the bounty hunter does? He gives him the full playbyplay of EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS. SO, COUTTORI SAYING, "OH, WOW. The bounty hunter says you have a partner and your partner's badly hurt that you guys were captured and you escaped from the twins and your guy and your guy was bitten by a dragon snake.
Oh, and he's been poisoned. OH, AND BY THE WAY, I'M going to make up this poison. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE [ __ ] SPECIES YOUR PARTNER IS. For all I know, everything I'm putting in the sandote could totally kill you. But whatever, I'M GOING TO DO THAT. IT'S JUST THAT the bounty hunter shows up AND GIVES HIM ALL the playbyplay of everything that's happened, and it was all for exposition, and that just made no sense to me whatsoever. So, uh, getting the full rundown from the bounty hunter. Oh, by the way, and in that scene, the bounty hunter has this dog that's meant to help him hunt.
What happens when he gets to Cataris?
The dog smells something and starts and he pins his ears back and he starts walking towards Honey. So, you'd think that the bounty hunter would go, "Huh, my scent tracking dog seems to have picked up the scent if somebody were hunting." Nah, it's probably nothing.
Let's just go. It's like, but wait a minute. But the guy said, "Hey, get away from my fish." The dog was nowhere near his fish. He was already well past the fish, smelling behind some boxes where somebody could easily be hiding. But the bounty hunter's like, "Nah, you've got to have a why. You have to have a why."
The bounty hunter decides to abandon the hut and decides that there's no reason for them to search it. You've got to give a reason why, not just a fish guy going, "Hey, get away from my fish."
Like, "Okay." Like, so that was stupid to me. All right. So, there's that.
At number four, the mini AT-ST. Going back to that initial sequence in the movie when Mandalorian says, "Hop on."
Little little Grou jumps on and they start to for no reason maniacally risk their lives running down the side of this mountain.
>> It's in the trailer. That shot. It's in the trailer. Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong. Does Mandalorian not have a jetpack?
Does he NOT HAVE A JETPACK that A would have got him down there a lot faster? B would have allowed him to come up from behind the ADAT walkers and three would have been significantly safer.
Like I I'm just sitting there because my buddy Ryan is the one who pointed this out to me and I'm like, WHAT? YEAH. WHY?
That you literally got this jetpack that you use as casually as walking every time else in the movie. It's like, "Oh, we're at the top of this deathdeying mountain."
>> Yeah. We better run down it in this crocketty at ST Mini. That's the wise.
>> Yeah. Just from the trailer, I thought the same thing. You don't even have to see the movie from the from the trailer.
I'm like, that shot makes no sense.
No, I like unless in the movie his jet like he he took a hit and his jetpack malfunctioned, but they needed it so he could fly away at the end. Like you again, you have to give a why. Give it's basic film making. Give a why. So that part made no sense to me.
>> Now each one of these gets worse and worse and worse.
My number three at this, and this one was one I didn't notice until my fifth screening.
>> Good thing you went five times. It's a good thing I went five times at the end of the film as all the New Republic ships get back to the New Republic base and land and you see Mando get out of Zeb's U-wing and he starts to walk and you know what's behind him as he's walking across the courtyard?
The Razor Crest.
>> Nice.
>> I have a question. How the [ __ ] did the Razor Crest get there? BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE saw the Razor Crest, it was at his house on a different planet when he got taken by the bounty hunter. The Baboo Freaks didn't take it. Baby Yoda didn't take it. That's where his ship was. 15 hours pass and he gets back on the U-wing and the Razor Crest is just there.
>> Maybe he has a concier service.
>> No explanation, nothing. It's just there. So, well, how else can Mando say, "Can I give a ship?" But like, wait a minute. The last time we saw that ship, it was at his house still getting modified.
And the Baboo Freaks had their own ship.
They didn't get it. It just It's just like, OH MY GOD. LIKE, THAT'S such a huge, man.
>> The Baboo Freaks. The Baboo Freaks. It's >> the name of my band. The Baboo Freaks.
>> The Minions. The Minions of the Star Wars Empire.
Again, it's a little thing, but it's such a basic flaw in film making. It It's like you got to answer the why.
Such a basic flaw in the in the film making. So, anyway, there was that.
Okay, the next one for me at number two.
Can somebody explain to me why a baby stroller number one has a hyperdrive in it and number two why it has [ __ ] cockpit controls for a baby. This is not the thing that that Mando found Grou in that could have been specialized. There's literally a Roodian mom just walking along pushing her baby in the stroller.
Grou gets in it, hits one button, and he's traveling at 10,000 mph.
>> I'm pretty sure the Kardashians have that for their babies.
>> Where Maybe Roian Rodians are early bloomers.
>> Maybe. But where is the safety commission? Where is the standard thing?
Like, you know what? This may not be safe for babies. We should make it go 1,000 mph and it should have its own actual controls in it. No problem. Like I'm just watching this. I'm like, what the how what is happening here? Why could everything go that fast? So anyway, that again was just utterly ridiculous.
>> Go that fast.
>> So there's that.
>> All right, >> this is killing me. some like there's somebody in the live chat saying MSRP saying you guys are nitpicking. If you think this is nitpicking, then you need to get your head out of the sand. These are clear logic flaws.
The these are the simplest things to avoid when you're making a movie. Now, I'm not talking about flaws with the movie. I'm talking about logic problems.
When you present something on screen that just fundamentally does not make sense, like that doesn't work. You have to give, as the film instructors say, the why.
And if you think these are nitpicks, I don't know what to tell you. These are big, obvious, brutal logic flaws.
So anyway, but this is the biggest one to me. The biggest logic flaw of the whole movie to me, which is this.
At the end of the movie, Colonel Sigourney Weaver confirms confirms to mand to the Mandalorian confirms to Mando that you're right.
Janu sang like a bird. He told us that they were actually in league with the Huts. The Huts were playing both sides.
They picked the Imperial side. They were working for them. Janu and the Huts, they were working together. They were being fed information. Blah blah. You were right. They picked a side and it wasn't our side. She says, "Okay, this brings up a question.
If the Huts and Janu coin are in communication and they're double crossing the New Republic and they're being given all the information by Janu, they know what the huts are doing. The Huts know what he's doing. All that kind of stuff.
If John Coin was getting ready to kill Rod of the Hut anyway, why did they send the Mandalorian?
Why did the Huts get and hire you? Why did they get the Mandalorian to go there to rescue Rada, who they want dead when John Ucoin, who they are in league with as confirmed at the end of the movie, when he was about to kill him anyway?
What was the point of that?
It completely undermines the basic plot of the movie. A movie that changed plot admittedly four or five times throughout.
But it it just made no sense. Go and Oh, we get the Mandalorian to go and get our kids so we can kill him. Where is he?
Well, he's in the hands of our uh of our coworker there of our of our comedon over here who's about to kill him anyway. So, why are you sending the Mandalorian there? And by the way, they're trying to hide from the Mandalorian that that Lord Commander Coin, whatever his name is, >> is there on the planet. And yet they send him right to the guy who knows that Janu is John Coin.
>> Like I again. AND THEN MANDALORIAN GETS BACK and you know the huts say, "Oh, you you betrayed our deal. Now you must suffer." Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Wait a minute. I've seen this movie five times. The deal was go and rescue Rada.
It was never the deal to bring him back to the huts. It was simply go and rescue Rada. That was the deal. Mandalorian should have said to him, "Hold on. I did I didn't break our deal. I honored the deal. I went and rescued Rada." That That's a side point. That's a side point, Rob. To me, though, the big thing, the entire foundation of the entire plot falls a point falls apart when Sigourney Reaver reveals at the end, oh yeah, John, who confirmed that that they're in league with the Hudson.
They've been uh feeding each other information. They're in league together.
The Huts chose to actually side with the Empire. Well, then why send the Mandalorian? They were about to kill Rada anyway. There goes the entire plot of the movie. Anyway, those are just logic problem. I'm not even going to talk about the dialogue or the pacing or why did we have to see Mando fight the same fishmen twice in two different actions. I'm not talking about problems with the movie. I'm talking about the logic fallacies in it. We want to take a second to thank a sponsor of today's video, Pocket Hose. Guys, I'm excited to tell you about the world's number one expanding garden hose and their brand new product, the Pocket Hose Ballistic.
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>> Anyway, what do you think about any of the ones I just mentioned? Do you have any more to add to it? Well, one of the things that I I don't know if this is first of all, I agree with everything you just said, but I have another one.
So, the Huts wanted Rada liberated so they could kill him so they he wouldn't inherit Jabba's fortune, >> which he didn't want anyway.
>> Yeah. Which he didn't want anyway. Exa Exactly.
Why is it that these twins I I was like, don't don't they have their own criminal enterprise when we met them when they're in, you know, they're on um they're in in Yeah. Yeah.
But I mean, but it when we saw them originally, didn't we see them in uh we saw the twins first? Where did we see them? In Mandalorian, right, earlier?
>> I don't remember now, to be honest.
>> Okay. They're already crime bosses. Like they've got this they've got this incredible empire. They've got this place they live and all they have literally how many people are on their payroll >> was a book >> that you see working in in their their their sluga encampment. There's like hundreds of people there >> that are on their payroll. Aren't they already rich? And if if Job of the Hut's um criminal empire like collapsed is suddenly do do the children of criminals just inherit money through what the banking system? I mean I had a I had a problem with like what why do you care where Jabba's money is going to go? I mean it is his son is part of the family and aren't aren't you guys all part of the same criminal empire? Like I that I had a problem with it. I wouldn't call it a plot hole, but I just I don't understand like when you have in the Godfather there is Veto Corleó, but you've got Sunny, you've got Fredo, you've got Michael, you've got Connie, there's an entire group of people, and then there's other families like like they underneath the Corleó family and and within that money is shared. monies.
I just didn't understand what was going on at all. But I think that you point out something the most egregious, which was the number your number one thing is why did they send the Mandalorian to get him in the first place? Why was the first of all, why did the rebellion ever think that a criminal enterprise was going to be on the up and up with them?
>> Oh yeah. As soon as Sidorney Weaver said in the movie, "We've been working a long time to establish a relationship with the Huts." I'm like, "No, the New Republic would not do that." the same Hut family that tried to have Luke Skywalker killed.
>> Yeah.
>> And and Leia had to choke out.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, it's like they're it's a criminal empire. You You walk into that knowing that you're dealing with people that are going to most likely double cross you >> and you've got >> By the way, can can I just throw just a couple more little things?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. One one in particular.
>> How does this make sense?
Well, there's two things. At the end, when once they kill the twins, who are the droids now trying to work for? Who are the droids trying to protect? I mean, if their whole fear was that Rod of the Hut is the true heir of Job of the Hut, isn't he in charge now? So, I that's a side thing. Whatever. I'll put that aside. But the big one to me is near the middle of the movie when Zeb and uh Mando go in and get Janu Coin and they're escaping, all the Stormtroopers who work for Coin are chasing them and shooting. They could kill their boss.
But more than that, once they get on the Razor Crest and they're starting to fly away, the guards come chasing after them in their own ships and they're trying to blow the Razer Crest up that their boss is in. I'm like, wait, how does this make any sense? Like, most movies at least have the common sense where they do the stereotypical thing of like, "Put your guns down, stupid. You might hit me." But at least that makes sense.
Like, it made no sense to me. Why are these stormtroopers trying to blow up the ship that legitimately has him in in the ship? I I just I didn't get But whatever. I didn't put that one on my list, but that's just a side one.
Anyway, guys, question is for you. Hey, listen. By the way, I know I just spent this time talking about the the logic problems of the movie. I still stand by the fact that I don't hate the movie.
There were a number of things in it that I quite enjoyed. I don't particularly like the movie because of all the problems, but I also think there's some redeeming things in the movie. I really do. But when you're took talking about a movie that took a 70% drop at the box office, you want to look at why. I think one of the big reasons is that there was absolutely zero sense of logic to this film. But at any rate, whatever you guys think about that, jump down to the comment section below and let us know your thoughts. Hey guys, thanks so much for watching this video. Make sure you like the video, leave a comment, and subscribe to our channel. And don't forget, we have a daily podcast called The John Campy Show Podcast available on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or your favorite podcasting app of choice. Go and subscribe to it today so it'll be there when you need
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