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Added: 2026-06-04

[00:00:00]Hello friends, welcome all of you to another new live video session of Sanatan Samiksha and all our friends, all our viewers, all of you join us and today's topic is very relevant and this topic is important because a lot of lies are being spread about it on social media.

[00:00:23]Now, regarding today's topic, I would like to hear some comments from Nataraja ji and try to understand why we are doing this topic and why there is a need to do this topic. After this we will talk to you directly about the claims and allegations.

[00:00:41]Yes Nataraja ji.

[00:00:46]Yes, today's stream is going to be very important and in today's stream we will know how a claim is going on that an idol named Harti is shown.

[00:01:07]An idol is shown in the name of Aarti, not Aarti, which has a trident in its hand and it is said from that idol that Lord Shiva was made by copying Aarti Devi, so we are going to know whether Lord Shiva was made by copying Aarti Devi's idol and whether the idol that is being shown is the idol of Aarti Devi itself or some other idol because nothing is written anywhere below or around the idol.

[00:01:39]And these people also did not tell what is the iconography of Goddess Harti in it or how is it the statue of Harti according to iconography and sculpture.

[00:01:53]These people have not told this.

[00:01:56]And today we will see the same thing in this history and will know whose idol it could be and whose other idols have been found and whether Lord Shiva was made by copying that idol or not, we will know this in today's stream. Yes, yes, so without any delay let's go straight to the topic and this topic we will talk about is that Lord Shiva is a copy of Harati, this claim is often being made loudly on social media by the Buddhists, by the nine Buddhists, by the same nine Buddhists whose meaning you know the history and the geography is explained well. Meaning, if history is not whitewashed then their history is not complete. Now you will see in today's session how history is whitewashed.

[00:03:03]A viral post on Twitter is being shared by many people and claims that the modern image of Lord Shiva holding a trident is copied from the statue of the Buddhist goddess Harti from Gandhara art.

[00:03:18]This fact check examines this claim based on evidence from iconography, Gandhara art, history and sculpture. That means our stream will investigate how much truth is there in the claims made by these people and will show that the statue shown in the comparison is not of Harti. That means the statue which they are saying is of Harti is not of Harti. Rather, it is probably the corpse of some other goddess like Parvati, Bhima or Durga.

[00:03:49]Because that statue does not match the iconography of Harthi at all.

[00:03:55]Despite that, it is very ridiculous to claim that the sculpture of Lord Shiva has been established by calling it the statue of Goddess Aarti. There are many children who are seen with Harati, the Buddhist goddess Harati, or whether the Buddhist goddess Harati is accepted in both Hinduism and Buddhism.

[00:04:15]So, the one who loses, Bharati, is especially revered as the goddess of Buddhists today.

[00:04:24]But in his iconography, there are a lot of children around him. She is called the goddess of children. Whereas this key feature is completely absent in the compared statue. That is, the main feature of the idol of Harti Devi is that her idol is made with many children.

[00:04:44]So the children are missing in that statue.

[00:04:48]Correct.

[00:04:50]Just using some bases and some fabricated theories, these nine dear Buddhist brothers of ours have started spreading this propaganda on social media that the statue of Lord Shiva was made by Brahmins after seeing the statue of Harti Devi. This is what they claim. I do n't know who will explain this to these idiots and who will tell them that the statue of Lord Shiva and the architecture of Lord Shiva have existed since the time when the word Buddha did not even resonate in any corner of the universe.

[00:05:31]When the word Buddha did not even resonate in any corner of the universe.

[00:05:34]Lord Shiva has been revered since that time.

[00:05:37]His incarnate form is worshipped and we get evidence of Lord Shiva and his iconography.

[00:05:44]If anyone has any doubt on what I am saying, then we have made a detailed stream on the archaeological evidence of Lord Shiva and we have made that video in total seven episodes.

[00:05:57]In the seventh part of all seven, we have attached all the ancient evidences related to the iconography of Lord Shiva in a sequential manner and especially, we have a playlist with the name Archaeological Evidence of Lord Shiva, so you can see it, so come here, let us understand it in detail because the weather has been a little kind towards us, so considering the kindness of the weather, we will only be able to share content with you, we will be able to share topics. So we are also in a bit of a hurry.

[00:06:31]So you guys also show your readiness a little, support and share it too. Ok?

[00:06:42]So let's move on. Yes.

[00:06:46]Now look, this is the picture that is being shared on X.

[00:06:50]This is the photo that is being shown. Meaning, it is being shown and told that look, this first goddess loses. Ok? And there is another statue next to it. The statue is a picture of Lord Shiva. So a comparative review is being done between the statue of Harti and the statue of Lord Shiva and it is being said that the statue of Shiva was made after seeing this Harti Goddess. What is he claiming? This is what is being claimed.

[00:07:21]But when we review this claim, the claims made by these red extinguishers completely fail. How does it fail now? He will look further. First of all, let me tell you that the statue shown in the picture is not of Goddess Harti.

[00:07:36]It is actually a statue of a Shaivite goddess made in the Greco-Indian style combined with Gandhara art. The goddess could be Parvati, Bhima, Durga, Gauri Mata or one of the Nanda Devis.

[00:07:54]Correct? But she cannot lose.

[00:07:57]We will give you solid proof as to why this goddess cannot lose.

[00:08:02]What is the characteristic of Gandhara style?

[00:08:05]In Gandhara, all the statues of Buddha, Shiva and Vishnu are influenced by the Greek style. That's why they all look the same. Because when a statue is made in the same style, then the stylistic features are visible in every statue. Now if the Navdhas understand this simple thing then they will not top. The problem is that they do not understand the matter.

[00:08:24]He would have topped this syllabus. But they do not understand this. That is why they have to make false claims.

[00:08:32]Now I will talk about iconography. Now, the iconography, the identification of the subtle nuances of iconography, I think that mostly the people who make such claims swallow it. Because what is iconography to them? I don't know it myself. They have never even heard the name of what is called iconography and if they have heard it somewhere then they keep using iconography arbitrarily. There is no doubt about it.

[00:09:03]But the most important thing is that while reviewing any statue, we must keep in mind that we can analyze the statue by taking the subtle iconography as the basis.

[00:09:12]We discussed what iconography is.

[00:09:17]What are the things seen in iconography?

[00:09:19]What is the basis for identifying a statue?

[00:09:21]Which statue is of Buddhists? Which statue is not of Buddhists? A detailed video has been made on this. And in that video we have explained each and every reference, each and every detail as to how we identify any statue.

[00:09:34]How do we know any statue?

[00:09:37]Ok? So we have already told you this. Now this is a misleading claim about every female figure of the Gandhara style because many statues have been made in the Gandhara style.

[00:09:50]Statues of many women are also made in it. Now if you start saying about every female statue made in the same style that all these goddesses lose. All goddesses lose. So this is the biggest proof of your stupidity.

[00:10:05]Rather, every person should have a basic understanding of iconography.

[00:10:10]While making any such big claim, if you make a big claim regarding a statue, then at least keep the basic knowledge of iconography in front of you while speaking, then a more clear perspective comes out. Some good things come to light.

[00:10:25]But when you, like fools, just see a few things in any statue and start calling it Amma ji and Babu ji, then it becomes a little insulting.

[00:10:34]So avoid insult.

[00:10:36]Act a little like an educated person. Now you all look at this statue. This statue is also from Gandhara. Ok? Now let me tell you what its speciality is. The influence of the Greek style of Apollo, Ferro, Atlas, Hercules and Zeus is seen on the idols of gods in Gandhara. That is, the statues of Gandhara style, the statues of goddesses, whether they are Hindu gods and goddesses, Indian gods and goddesses. But who has influence on these Indian gods and goddesses, the Hindu gods and goddesses or the Buddhas or the Bodhisattvas of the Buddhists? Of the Greek goddesses.

[00:11:18]Ok? Now, the influence of Apollo will be seen, the influence of Pero will be seen, the influence of Atlas will be seen, the influence of Hercules will be seen. The influence of the Greek style of juice will be visible. All these are statues of Greek style. Apollo, Ferro, Atlas, Hercules and Zeus. So, the statues were made by these people in Greek style.

[00:11:39]So the influence of his style was visible later when this style was used in Indian sculpture art because the sculptor was inspired by that art. The sculptor had learnt that art in a better way. I could have carved it.

[00:11:57]So that is why you will see that similarly on the statues of goddesses also, the Greek goddess Ardoxa is a Greek goddess, so the influence of the style of Ardoxa is visible in the statues of goddesses.

[00:12:17]Independent statues of both Adoksho and Phero have also been found in Gandhara.

[00:12:19]This is why the goddess statues of Gandhara look similar externally. No matter which goddess it belongs to. That means there are statues of different goddesses but on looking at them there appears to be a similar similarity in those statues.

[00:12:33]Now we are giving you an example of this.

[00:12:35]Ardhoksha and Phero: Statues of both Ardhoksha and Phero in Indian style have been found from Gandhara. But similar similarities are seen in the statues found from Gandhara.

[00:12:46]If you look at both of them, it will seem that both are idols of the same goddess. But both are different. Now how were these identified separately? So they were identified differently by their subtle iconography. Ok? So these statues have been identified on the basis of microscopic iconography. Now, the question that will come to your mind as to whose statues these are you seeing? So come on Nataraja ji, tell me whose statue is this? Whose look do you think it is?

[00:13:14]And there are docks and legs. Rest, those who do not know will call them Aarti and Panch Panchik.

[00:13:23]Call them Buddhist gods and goddesses, whereas those statues have been made by copying them, that is, on the basis of their style. It is just that many children were caught in it and statues of Hari and Panch Panchisa and Panchika were made around it. Just this, these two statues which you are seeing on your screen are actually Ardhoksho and Fero.

[00:13:52]Ok? Who is Rakshasho? And who is Ferro? You can see this. Now you will say, friend, are these two goddesses? Yes. These are the goddesses. There is a god, there is a goddess.

[00:14:04]A god and a goddess. Correct. Now Aadoksho is also a goddess, Fero is also a goddess. Now when any statue is made, the basic iconography of Rakshasho and Ferro, a glimpse of that basic iconography is also seen in other goddess statues.

[00:14:23]That is why when you see the statues made in Gandhara, you will see the influence of this art in every statue.

[00:14:28]Ok? Now let us find out what is the real identity of Harti? That means, if there is a goddess named Bharti who defeats, then what is her real identity? So, as a unique identity of Bharti ji, we will share some things with you. The first thing that identifies him is that he has statues of many children.

[00:14:52]She is holding some of them in her lap. Some live on their shoulders. Some stay near their feet.

[00:14:57]Some have children in their lap, meaning their entire body is wrapped around them. So if you see any such statue which has many children. Are on the shoulders. Are in his lap. are around them. It is on their shoulders. Ok? I am standing holding them.

[00:15:15]And along with this, Aarti Devi definitely has a child in her lap, whom she keeps in her lap.

[00:15:23]Ok? So the first iconography is a lot of children. The second iconography is a child in his lap and child figures all around him. As I told you, there are children all around him.

[00:15:36]After that the food vessel is of a special type. There is a food container called corncob.

[00:15:45]It is seen with his statue.

[00:15:47]So this statue that I am showing you right now, which is visible on your screen, is actually the original statue which we can call the statue of Harati. And this statue of Harati has all the characteristics that I am talking about. Ok? Now when you look at this statue and the first statue that was shown earlier, there is no similarity between the two. There is a huge difference between the two.

[00:16:11]Aarti does not hold a trident. Aarti does not keep a kamandalu. Here you can see what the Aarti character is called? What kind of food container does Aarti keep? Aarti holds a cornucopia type food container. One who keeps food. Whereas the first statue had a kamandalu in it. There was a trident in his hand.

[00:16:32]One probably contained a rosary which we call Rudraksha rosary. All these styles are completely opposite to the image of this Aarti. They are different. Now let me show you some more identities. Now look at this.

[00:16:46]Look at these two statues.

[00:16:48][Sound of clearing throat] Try to understand these two statues.

[00:16:53]Now, the Gandhara style, the Smriti of Gandhara, is a mixed style or a mixed style, now statues of many goddesses have been made in this mixed style.

[00:17:08]Despite similarities in external appearance, each has its own distinct sculptural identity.

[00:17:13]How are you? Now there are two statues. When you see these two statues, you will wonder whose statues could these be? The first statue: If you look at the first statue, you will say that this one definitely loses because I can see that each one is holding a child in its hand. Two are sitting on the shoulders.

[00:17:31]Ok? And then in the second statue also you will see a man and a woman sitting. He has many children.

[00:17:38]Some old type of person is watching him from above.

[00:17:42]Brother, please look at me too.

[00:17:44]I am also here.

[00:17:46]Why are you looking at her? Ok? So, I am enjoying looking at this old man who is looking at it from the side and behind.

[00:17:53]This is called a person who spoils the fun. Ok? At present he is trying a lot but they are having their way. These two could possibly be a king or queen or some god or goddess. But it is a cool statue. Ok? Now these statues are mixed statues of Gandhara.

[00:18:12]Ok? Now, an excellent example of the Greco-Indian style, now we have already told you that the statue of Harati, so what is the speciality of the statue of Harati? So when we talk about the speciality of the statue of Harati, the first statue is of Gandhara style. This one also loses. The second statue also loses in the same style.

[00:18:34]Correct? Both the statues are of Harati.

[00:18:37]But are you able to understand anything after seeing these two?

[00:18:43]Perhaps you will not understand in the first attempt what is going on and there is a lot of difference between our two statues.

[00:18:50]But then how can we call both of them losers? What fundamental iconography is visible in it that we call it a defeat? Ok? Now here's what I'll tell you.

[00:19:01]Many goddesses have been depicted in the same artistic tradition.

[00:19:03]That is, the style is the same but there are many goddesses carved in it and among those goddesses, subtle similarities and differences have been shown with very subtle and very mixed boundaries.

[00:19:18]Now Goddess Parvati has also been depicted.

[00:19:20]Lakshmi also has the same thing. Aarti has also been done.

[00:19:22]Pachika has also suffered. There are many such goddesses. Now, Nataraja ji, I would like your comments on both these statues and to throw some light on their subtle features.

[00:19:32]Both of them lose because they have many children together. A great warrior [sound of clearing throat] is standing there. There are two children on the shoulders. There is a child in the lap. And here is Harti and Panchika.

[00:19:45]Panchika can be called the Buddhist form of Kubera. Or a different deity may speak. There is one Jambwal, he is also a form of Kuber. In Buddhism, this losing goddess is also seen with Kubera.

[00:20:01]But in Buddhism, punching is done with the cow and in a way, it is also called the daughter of Mara. Earlier she used to do this to the children. Then Buddha explained to her and only then she became the goddess of children. So there is a story like this, so you will see there are children with them and someone is watching from above, this one is also probably a child but not an old man, it is an old child who is watching from above, look at him, he has long hair, he has a beard and he is carrying a bundle and this one who seems to be Kuber, I don't know who he is, he is looking at them with great love, say pay a little attention to me too brother, this is Kuber's duplicate Panchika, yes Panchika is not Kuber, yes, like there was Pharaoh and Draksha Devi, their icon, if you see the statue, there are not only children in it, rest is this statue, but whose is it, of the Greek god Pharaoh and the Greek goddess Adraksho, and using the same style, I will show the statue of the children, now look at this other statue of this one and look at this statue, yes look at this, look at this, now there are no children in it, so who are these gods, yes and Adraks, now if you add children to this, it becomes Harti and Panchika and as we told you that there is a food vessel, so in its hand, a food vessel is also visible in the middle.

[00:21:36]Brother, is anyone able to see the food vessel or not?

[00:21:40]Some people will say that they are not able to see the food vessel. However, I know very well what the person who is not able to see the food vessel would be seeing.

[00:21:51]So whatever you see, keep it positively in your mind. These are statues and statues have their own special iconography and one should try to identify the statue only through the papyrus of that special iconography. One should not use extra brain power and change those statues.

[00:22:12]Ok? Should not be converted. Come forward.

[00:22:15]Now let us talk about Buddha's mother Mahamaya.

[00:22:18]Mother of Gautam Buddha.

[00:22:21]Now look at this statue. Gautam Buddha is being born. Gautam Buddha is being born. His mother is standing holding a branch of a tree. The birth of Buddha from the side part is shown in Buddhist texts and Buddhist sculptures that Buddha was born from the side part. So here you can see that from the same side part where the story of birth is there, it is shown there. You can see Buddha coming from the side of his mother who is standing. Ok?

[00:22:51]And Devraj Indra is standing with a towel, not Devraj Indra but Devraj Sakra is standing with a towel saying that as soon as the child comes, I will be the first one to pick him up in my lap.

[00:23:02]So our Lord Indra does not believe this.

[00:23:06]So, Lord Shankar was a great physician of that time. The gods who deliver babies can be considered.

[00:23:12]Because suppose now the child can be said to be born in a doctor's way because in today's date if a woman gives birth then there is a doctor or a nurse and many other people, similarly in those times there must have been some doctor or a vaidya, so as soon as the child was born and they came to know that the child was coming from the house the day after tomorrow, they stood with a towel so that the brother does not fall down and it is true that it is also written that as soon as Lord Buddha is taken in a towel, then after his birth two streams of water fall from the sky. The two streams fall from two pitchers. I mean sorry, not from two pots, I mean two streams fall from the sky itself. And those streams that fall from the sky contain one hot water and one cold water. So, they take bath with this and Gautam Buddha walks seven steps as soon as he is born and after walking seven steps he roars like a lion.

[00:24:13]Ok? So this entire story is written in Buddhist texts. To read this very well you can read Buddha Charitra.

[00:24:22]Ashwaghosh was a very famous Buddhist scholar. So Asvaghosha wrote a wonderful text called Buddha Charitra, written in Sanskrit around the first century.

[00:24:38]Its original language was Sanskrit. So this is a very important text written in poetic style about the character of Buddha and the life of Buddha.

[00:24:50]Such fine features are described in it.

[00:24:54]How was Lord Buddha born? How did it happen? What incidents happened? Where was he born? All this has been explained in great detail in it. It is written in it that just as some are born from the ear, some from the nose, some from the forehead, some from somewhere else, similarly he was born from the side part. It is clearly written. You can go and read Buddha Charitra. Meaning, even the birth of anyone in it is not shown naturally. So now tell me, no one can be born from the armpit.

[00:25:25]No one can be born from the thigh. No one can be born from the ears.

[00:25:27]No one can be born from the forehead and no one can be born from the side.

[00:25:32]Ok? But it is written like this in it. So keep science aside. Just accept that it can happen and it has happened. Because you cannot apply science here. So here we have to tell that this statue also says something.

[00:25:49]What does she say? Now in this also there is a goddess who is Mahamaya ji and she also has a child with her, so the proof of the widespread use of Gandhara style is that Lord Buddha's mother Maya Devi has also been depicted in this Greek-Indian mixed style.

[00:26:05]Look, this is a Greek Indian mixed style. So you can see this. If every female statue in this style is considered to be defeated, then Mahamaya ji will also have to be called defeated. Which is clearly inconsistent and not logical but unfair. Not only Mahamaya, two attendants standing nearby are also made exactly like her. Of course [sound of clearing throat] but they are the maids.

[00:26:37]Look, that too has been made like that. Otherwise, there were three of them, but they were quite modern. Look, look, let me show you this, one of them was holding a mirror. The mirror and the other one has taken the cosmetic box. The other one has taken the entire makeup box. All the cosmetics items are kept in it. She is carrying the other mirror around.

[00:27:00]Wow brother, they were very modern people.

[00:27:04]Everyone used to take me along on the way. Wow. It's great.

[00:27:11]Come on sir. So you see, we are talking about equality.

[00:27:14]Now come, I will show you some more statues.

[00:27:18]Now look at this, Lord Gautam Buddha had a brother whose name was Nanda. We are talking about the same Nanda who was extremely attached to his wife.

[00:27:30]Nand was very much attached to his wife. And he was unable to overcome that attachment.

[00:27:36]So, to free them from their attachment, Lord Buddha took them on his back, that is, by carrying them on his back, and while flying, took them to heaven to show them the Apsaras and this depiction has already been depicted in Buddhist sculptures.

[00:27:53]It is not just something that I am saying. No, it is depicted in Buddhist sculptures. Lord Gautam Buddha flew with his brother Nanda on his back and took him to heaven to show him the Apsaras. So that was the deal there.

[00:28:08]God said that if you do as I tell you, then I will give you these Apsaras later.

[00:28:16]Meaning, I will get you married to these nymphs or whatever condition is kept. So God's intention here was that this brother of ours has a huge hidden attraction towards women. That means there is a lot of fascination towards women.

[00:28:34]It is completely tied into female beauty. So why not give it to her as a temptation to free her from the bondage of feminine beauty.

[00:28:43]So, in the temptation of women, he said, okay, if you do this then you will get all these women.

[00:28:50]Ok? So now Nand became very happy and Nand came back with God and then Nand did whatever God said.

[00:29:00]So then Nand did as God said.

[00:29:02]So Nand's attraction towards women, his attachment towards them, all of it diminished. Then later he forgot about the Apsaras also and finally he said that there is nothing in all these things.

[00:29:16]Meaning, God corrected you on the problem of attachment. It is written in Buddhist literature that Lord Buddha did this to Nanda and Nanda improved and changed because of that very thing. Ok? That is, he was taken to the center of his attachment to whatever he was attached to and placed there.

[00:29:37]But the condition was that you will get it only when you fulfill our conditions.

[00:29:41]But while fulfilling the conditions of Lord Buddha, his attachment towards women ended.

[00:29:48]So here Nand's marriage was fixed.

[00:29:51]When Lord Buddha brought him with him, Nand's marriage was fixed.

[00:29:57]So, Nand's girlfriend, in a way, should be called his girlfriend or his future wife, then see, the statue of Nand's future wife is also made here. Look, this is the first statue which is of a standing woman holding a mirror in her hand.

[00:30:15]Meaning he is holding a mirror in his hand. I have taken the mirror. So this one is Nand's wife. So this is the depiction of the wife of Nanda, the brother of Lord Buddha.

[00:30:24]Now look at this statue and look at the first statue. Is there similarity or not?

[00:30:31]Is there similarity or not? Is the same influence visible in the style or not?

[00:30:35]A similar influence is visible in the style because the clothes, jewellery, styles are all similar. Because this is also a statue made under Gandhara style, Gandhara art. Not only this.

[00:30:43]Now after this we are showing you another panel. This is also the same.

[00:30:50]Look at this. So here also you can see that all the women who are made, all these women have the influence of Gandhara style and the statue of Lord Buddha also has the influence of Gandhara style. The clothes, ornaments, garments etc. made in the statue of Lord Buddha are also of Gandhara style. Ok? So you can see this, Nataraja ji what is your comment on this?

[00:31:16]Yes, in all these, female statues are made in the same style and you can also see that Nanda is sitting on his knees near Buddha holding a bowl and saying, take me too, he may take me or not, where are you going, now see what happens, I will tell you the whole story a little deeply, Lord Buddha had gone to his father's house. So when Lord Buddha became a monk.

[00:31:48]Here, Nand's marriage was fixed.

[00:31:54]So here, where you see Nanda sitting holding a bowl, Lord Buddha is standing there.

[00:32:00]And just above Nanda there is a woman. Actually, this woman is the same one with whom Nand 's marriage was fixed. So what happened was that when the elder brother started coming back, that is, when Buddha started coming back, Nanda held his alms bowl and said, let me go, I will drop my brother. Now if brother goes some distance then I will give him his alms bowl and come back.

[00:32:24]But what happens is that Lord Buddha does not take his alms bowl from Nanda.

[00:32:29]And Nanda follows Lord Buddha holding his alms bowl.

[00:32:35]Hey brother, take it now, take it now and his future wife is watching them from the ramparts of the palace that she has returned now. Now she has returned. Now that you have returned, where have you returned? Where did you return to now? She left, right? She kept on looking but now here she kept on looking at the road and Nanda kept on thinking that now elder brother will take the alms bowl and will tell me to go back but Lord Buddha did not do so and took Nanda with him and then he made him a monk but the love that Nanda had for his wife was not ending, right the love that Nanda had for his wife was not ending. He became so attached to his wife that he lost all interest in the method of meditation and worship as told by Lord Buddha.

[00:33:29]It completely ruined the body. Then God saw that the lust for women in him was very strong and now he could get attracted to his wife.

[00:33:41]God said, okay, if this is so then I will show him some nymphs who are more beautiful than his wives.

[00:33:49]And then I will put a condition. Then he started showing the most beautiful of all the beauties, the most beautiful of all, the nymphs in heaven and said that if you follow the path shown by me then you will be able to get them or I will provide them to you. But then when Lord Buddha says this, it was his challenge and he accepts it. But when he later followed the path shown by Lord Buddha, in the desire to attain him, he started the work in the desire to attain him but that desire itself ended later.

[00:34:24]His love for women ended. That too like a fool who started achieving extraordinary things.

[00:34:30]So here the entire story is in this form and this very thing is shown here on this panel. The same story told is told and depicted through the panel. Ok? So this is the whole story.

[00:34:47]You must have seen or heard that. We were robbed by our own people. I will not say anything further.

[00:34:53]Ok? Move ahead.

[00:34:57]Now look, there is another goddess. Gaja Lakshmi because this statue has been disturbed a little. There are two elephants on either side of it. Ok? This is the complete statue. But while we were installing it, this statue got a little disturbed.

[00:35:09]Now this statue is in Gandhara style.

[00:35:12]Ok? So Mother Gaja Lakshmi has also been depicted in this mixed style of Gandhara.

[00:35:21]So you can see the clothing and the effect, i.e. the stylistic effect, is the same. That means if someone sees her, he will say that she also loses. But it does not lose. This is Gaj Lakshmi. Because the elephants on both sides are pouring water on them. And as we have seen other statues of Gajalakshmi.

[00:35:45]This statue is based on the same iconography.

[00:35:47]Ok? So even though this statue looks influenced by his style, it is of Goddess Lakshmi, not of Gaja Lakshmi, not of Aarti. Ok?

[00:35:59]Now what you have to see here is that the depiction of Gaja Lakshmi has some special characteristics. There is a sign of anointing by elephants. There is a lotus.

[00:36:10]Identified by the cornucopia and not just by external appearance. You cannot say just by looking at a statue externally that this is his or that is his. So the criterion of sculpture is that it should be identified by its characteristics and styles and not by looking at it superficially and giving it any name. Ok? Now we will come after this. Look, let me show you another statue.

[00:36:30]Araksho Lakshmi.

[00:36:33]Now this statue has a Greek goddess in it, sorry yes, okay. There is influence of both the Greek goddess Araksha and Gaja Lakshmi. That means this statue is a mixed statue of both Rakshasho plus Gaj Lakshmi.

[00:36:50]what understand? It is a mixed image. That is, it uses a mixed iconography of both Arakshasho plus Goddess Lakshmi.

[00:37:00]Which you can see. This gemstone was found in the northwestern Gandhara region and dates back to the 2nd century AD.

[00:37:09]It depicts Abhishek Lakshmi and the guards.

[00:37:11]This statue in the posture of consecration, falling from elephants, clearly shows that in Gandhara the qualities of the Greek goddess Arakshas and the Indian goddess Lakshmi were combined.

[00:37:21]And this same coordination is reflected in the statues of other goddesses also. So at that time such mixed statues were also made, that is, the statues of two different civilizations were made in the same manner or were presented as one or were placed in a mixed style in the same style.

[00:37:39]So this is called stylistic influence or a mixture of iconography. Ok? So you can see this also. Now come, let me show you something else. Now look at these. Now look at this statue once again and while looking at this statue, look directly at the first statue over which there is controversy.

[00:37:58]Look at this, look at this, the first statue about which these people are saying that this is Goddess Harti and the statue of Shiva has been copied from Goddess Harti.

[00:38:11]Ok? Now you have seen this statue. Now come straight after this statue that I am showing you. This statue, this one. Now, firstly, if someone sees it, he will say that this also loses. That means, the one who considered the first statue to be defeated will also call the second statue to be defeated.

[00:38:35]Why? Because the iconography is already imprinted in his mind.

[00:38:37]But if we look in more detail, we will know which goddess is this and her name is also written below this statue. What name is written? The name of this goddess is Siris Pandim. What is? Siris Pandim. Now you have to pay attention here that the inscription engraved on it is in Kharosthi script and in Kharosthi script it will be read as Shris Pandam, this is written below this statue. This is an irrefutable proof that Goddess Lakshmi has also been depicted in this style of Gandhara. That means this is Goddess Lakshmi. Shris Pandam i.e. Shri Pandim is the idol of Goddess Lakshmi and this idol has also been sculpted in Gandhara style and you can see that it has similar iconography to the first idol that we showed.

[00:39:36]Now will he tell this also that brother, this goddess also loses, he cannot say this. Why?

[00:39:43]Because there is a lot of difference in the subtlety. Plus, this is a written statue with the name written on it.

[00:39:54]So this is a statue with a name written on it which clearly tells whose it is. So this head is of Shris Panda meaning the idol of Goddess Lakshmi. So any statue of a woman made in the Gandhara style, after seeing any statue of a woman in the Gandhara style, you cannot dismiss it by calling it the statue of a losing goddess, meaning you can capture history in it. This is why the study of features and inscriptions is essential in iconography. That is, which statue belongs to whom? If the inscription is written, it is better, if the inscription is not written, the name is not written, then you can identify that statue on the basis of its unique iconography. It is very important to keep this in mind. Now look at this, this is the statue which these people called the statue of Goddess Harti.

[00:40:43]This statue is not actually of Goddess Harti. Now why doesn't the goddess lose? I want to talk about some of its specific characteristics.

[00:40:53]Firstly, this statue has Shaiva characteristics. It has Shaiva characteristics, not Buddhist characteristics. The statue which is being described as losing on social media is completely wrong.

[00:41:05]Its iconographic features clearly bring it into line with Shaiva sculpture.

[00:41:10]Why? Because Lord Shiva has the main trident in his hand. And this trident does not belong to any Buddhist deity.

[00:41:19]Keep this in mind. The earliest depiction of the trident is found in the Indus Valley Civilization.

[00:41:25]Ok? And also in the Indus Valley Civilization, a similar trident mark is found on the back of a bull. Apart from this there are some potteries of Indus.

[00:41:37]Ok? Similar depiction of trident is found on those potteries also.

[00:41:41]This is the same symbol of trident. So no one should say that the trident originated from the Buddhists and the trident is recognized in Buddhism.

[00:41:49]No, Buddhists have copied and pasted the trident from ancient civilizations. The first one has a trident. There is a kamandalu in the other hand. You can see this is a kamandal. Now which Buddhist deity does Kamandal Bhaiya keep, brother? I did not know this.

[00:42:06]Which Buddhist deity holds the kamandalu? But here is the kamandalu. Now there is also a child in one hand.

[00:42:12]Now this child in one hand could possibly be Kumar Kartikeya. And the two below are both followers. There are no children. If you see the hair of these two, people will say brother, this is hair just like theirs.

[00:42:24]Meaning a little curly curly but this is the servant. This is not a child. There are followers. So look, while worshipping the goddess, he is standing with both hands folded. Ok? So these are the followers. There is a trident in one hand. There is a kamandalu in one hand. There is something like a chasak vessel in one hand.

[00:42:43]He is holding a child in one of his hands. There are n't many children here.

[00:42:48]So, on the basis of the speciality of this microscopic micrography, we cannot say that this goddess loses under any circumstances because she never loses.

[00:43:00]Because what is the identity of a loser?

[00:43:03]Aarti has many children with her. There is more than one child. And here there is only one child who is in the hands of the other two servants. Now he made the servants also sit like this child.

[00:43:12]This is a very pathetic situation.

[00:43:16]So all these signs indicate that it is not the idol of any Aarti but the idol of some goddess belonging to the Shaiva group, whom we can call Goddess Parvati, Durga, Bhima Devi.

[00:43:31]But it does not lose. Ok. Well, in Vishnu Dharmottar Purana, Goddess Saraswati Brahmacharini is also said to have a trident in her hand, so this matches with them as well, although they also have rosary and manuscript, which is not there in this.

[00:43:56]Now Nataraja ji, this statue of Lord Shiva, the family statue of Shiva family in Gandhara, please tell us a little about its microscopic micrography.

[00:44:08]Yes, see, many people also say that Kartikeya was a Buddhist god and Harti was his mother.

[00:44:17]Parvati and Lord Shiva were added later, after the Gupta period, whereas this is a completely wrong belief because in the oldest depictions, Kartikeya is with Lord Shiva or with Agni Dev, both of whom are considered his father.

[00:44:37]According to Hindu beliefs, the oldest depictions will be found with both of them and if you look here also, these statues are from the first or second century of Gandhara. There is a panel. In a way, the entire family of Lord Shiva is depicted in it. First of all is Lord Shiva.

[00:44:56]He is Chaturbhuj and Trimukh or Chaturmukh.

[00:45:02]and depicted with the urdha linga. There is a kamandalu in the hand. There is a trident in the other hand which broke when the idol was moved or it can also be called a punishment.

[00:45:15]Lord Shiva also holds a stick and a kamandalu in his hands.

[00:45:18]One hand is in Varada Mudra and the other hand holds Vajra or Damaru. So this is Lord Shiva first. Then there is Goddess Parvati. Now you can see Goddess Parvati here like the previous statues. The way the statue of Harit was made, the statue of the goddess with the previous trident was made, the statue of Goddess Lakshmi was made, the statue of Buddha's mother was made. Exactly in the same style.

[00:45:46]Then there is Kartikeya who has a Kukut i.e. a rooster in one of his hands which is also called Kukud Dhwaj. And in the other hand is Shakti or spear. And then Kartikeya's wife is Shashthi Devi. She is also made in the same style. The style in which Parvati ji is there, loses, Lakshmi ji is there. That is, in the style of Gandhara and what is their identity?

[00:46:13]His six faces are depicted separately and below him is a devotee or attendant or servant. So who are these in the Shiva family, Lord Shiva, Goddess Parvati, that is, Lord Shiva and his wife Goddess Parvati, Kartikeya, his wife Shashthi Devi or Devasena, so this entire Shiva family is shown in it.

[00:46:40]So now you must have understood that Hindu gods and goddesses were also made in this style. Hindu goddesses were also made. Like Parvati ji, Sashti Devi, Lakshmi ji and other goddesses, it is wrong to say that the idol only loses. And look at the statue of Lord Shiva here, we will remember the statue of Lord Shiva in Gandhar art even before the time when the statue of Harati was made.

[00:47:09]Yes, you can see this. Okay, I have a question from a brother. They are saying that brother, you give the proof. Brother, there is proof that I have already made videos. My brothers, please give some of the videos of ancient archaeological evidence of Lord Shiva which are available on the channel to this brother. They are asking for proof. It may happen that after many years the old statue of Lord Shiva is found to be the proof.

[00:47:41]You have been asking for the entire family of Lord Shiva for 2000 years, show me the complete 2000 year old family. So what I am showing is that what is visible on the screen is itself 2000 years old. Ok? The rest is even older than this. So we have already made videos for this. Ok? You see that.

[00:47:58]And if you muster a little courage and join the stream, I will give you a direct glimpse.

[00:48:03]Ok. Come on, come forward. Now Gandhara art is a wonderful proof of Greek-Indian fusion. I will tell you how it is. This panel is a living testimony to the artistic excellence and cultural integration of Gandhara. In this, we see that unique confluence of Indian divinity and Greek art style which gives this region a special place in the history of world art.

[00:48:26]Now in this you can see which gods are there. Nataraja ji, in this I would like you to tell them once who all are there? The old statue is there, you will see it in the next statue.

[00:48:40]Look at this old statue here, yes this is also from the first century, it is in the Mathura Museum. Like in that statue, you have the entire Hindu deity family and unity has been shown in it.

[00:49:02]What unity has been shown in it, both the Vaishnav and Saivite families have been shown in it. Now Lord Shiva and Parvati ji have been shown in the form of Ardhanarishvara. The first statue is of Ardhanarishvara i.e. Lord Shiva and Goddess Parvati i.e. the statue related to the Saivite sect. Then there is Lord Vishnu. Then there is Goddess Gaja Lakshmi, i.e. the idol related to Vaishnavism. And last of all Kartikeya.

[00:49:34]So here also you can see that both Hindu deities Shiva and Vaishnav i.e. Lord Shiva and his wife Parvati ji, Lord Vishnu and his wife Gaj Lakshmi ji both are shown here together.

[00:49:49]So in Gandhara, Lord Shiva and Goddess Parvati, Lord Kartikeya and Goddess Shashthi are depicted, similarly here Ardhanarishvara, Lord Vishnu, Gaja Lakshmi and Kartikeya are depicted.

[00:50:06]So in a way, these are similarities. That means, since ancient times, not only idols of gods but also idols of families were made.

[00:50:21]Yes, and the audience is requested to please support financially also. I am not saying it is big. It's small, 100 50 10 20 30 40, do super chat, friend.

[00:50:37]You people should donate this much or that would not have happened.

[00:50:43]In Kaliyuga, charity is the basis.

[00:50:47]Now if you don't even donate then think what is going to happen to you in Kaliyuga?

[00:50:53]Donate for the right cause, friend.

[00:50:57]Now come forward.

[00:51:00]Now look at this. It became Gandhara's. Now let's come to the conclusion. What does the conclusion say?

[00:51:08]Facts, Arguments and Closure.

[00:51:11]Dawa is the statue of Goddess Harti. This was proved wrong.

[00:51:21]Statues that appear similar in style and identity can lead to confusion if not studied minutely.

[00:51:24]So Parvati, Lakshmi, Mahamaya and other goddesses were created in the same style of Gandhara.

[00:51:32]Identification is not based on style. It is caused by symptoms.

[00:51:36]So, by looking at the style you cannot say that this is it because if you just look at the style then you will see superficially that it also has such clothes. It also has such ornaments.

[00:51:44]This one has this, that one has that. Let me tell you, this is the name. But not just the style, its main characteristics also need to be taken into consideration in detail. It is ignorance to attribute any statue to someone else without reading the characteristics of the statue and understanding the science of the statue. As many of our brothers are doing this ignorance nowadays. Do watch our video series for the oldest depiction of Lord Shiva with Trishul which I have already talked about. And we are already going to do another episode very soon. I had told you that there is a 3000 year old statue of Lord Shiva, the trident of Lord Shiva from the Mauryan time period and other evidence related to Shiva which is from the Mauryan time period and is about 2.5 to 3000 years old. And the Yagya Kund of 1500 BC, yes and the Yagya Kund of 1500 BC, not 2000 BC, the Yagya Kund i.e. Havan Kund of 1500 BC and we have added the oldest Brahmi coins to it. We did not tell you earlier. But we said that when we do this episode, we are including the oldest Brahmi script seals, that is, even before Ashoka.

[00:53:10]So we will give you all this information in our upcoming video.

[00:53:19]But the condition of that information is that the video will be for members only.

[00:53:26]And our reason behind making it members only is that brother, we are getting so much support from you all and seeing your support, my heart is filled with joy. Ok? And we are so happy with this excitement that because of this happiness we feel like we should make those major streams members only. Brother, some benefits should be given to the members also. Brothers, all those people who have tried to bring Sanatan Samiksha to this level. Those who are continuously supporting us. Those who consider us their own and support Sanatan Samiksha, we have no problem in supporting them. A 1592 ID says that the temple of Gudi Mallam dates back to the sixth century. Its archaeological report is there and excavation has been done. It was done by IK Sharma and the Shivalinga statue of Lord Shiva in it is 300 BC old. Isn't it?

[00:54:28]Everyone is crazy [sound of clearing throat]. There's nothing [laughter] while reading. You idiot, if you had just searched on the internet, you would have found her correct date.

[00:54:36]Temples keep getting built later but the oldest temple of Lord Shiva and the floor below it was established in 300 BC.

[00:54:50]Then in 200 BC a railing was installed in front of it. That railing is similar in style to your Bharat Stupa. The railings were built in 200 BC. Then gradually the temple was built and it is written in the inscriptions of that temple and in many inscriptions around it that kings like Satvan etc. used to worship Lord Shiva here, so don't talk like donkeys, identify properly what style it is, from which time it belongs, yes, there is a Pappu ji, Pappu ji is saying that there is no idol worship in the Vedas, then how can we believe that these idols are yours, brother, idol worship is not there even in your Buddhist text Tripitaka.

[00:55:34]Where is the Green Goddess in the Tripitaka, your original Buddhist text? Where is this Harati etc. and all this? There is no deity named Meneshwar in the Tripitaka. There is no Buddhist god. Then where did these come from? It went out of the sky.

[00:55:48]If there is no idol worship in the Vedas, then is there idol worship in your Buddhist texts? Someone has drunk my drink, what should I say now? Let go. I don't feel like speaking today. But if you have drunk it then prove it in front of everyone, you are not Pappu Amrit Sir, what kind of Pappu are you, wow wow wow wow wow wow wow what a thing, in Kaliyuga only reel Adhara wow amazing, in Kaliyuga only reel Adhara, dance dance, everything's mercury has come down, this is the era of dancers brother, the better one dances, the more support he gets.

[00:56:32]The better the propaganda one does, the more support he gets.

[00:56:37]And who is doing his work as honestly, generously and correctly. People are forgetting him more and more.

[00:56:43]The more we abandon it. are leaving.

[00:56:45]Pulling hands away from support. And please excuse me for today because this topic has become quite big anyway. I was just looking for content in this, if that remains then I will meet you all, Jai Siyaram to everyone else, Har Har Mahadev