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Wack Gets Involved in the Jaleec & Skinny AllegationsAñadido:
Well, I was most excited for this topic.
I'm not going to lie, when Josh sent me sent me the list. So, Michael Blackon shows off his residual change.
>> Y'all want to hit that Jalice joint?
>> Uh, no, I don't.
>> I think that's a hot one.
>> He gets it.
>> I think that's a hot one.
>> All right. If you guys want, YOU GUYS GET WHERE YOU GOING, BRO? You about TO WALK OUT.
>> NO, I'M I'M GOING TO GO TAKE A PISS. BUT I DO WANT RICKY SCARED OF JALIS.
>> I'M not scared of Jalice at all, bro.
Scared of Bro, first off, what does this have to do with being scared of Jalis?
This topic is so dark.
>> You got to talk about it, though. What you mean? This what you do.
>> This what you do. What you mean? You got to talk about it.
>> I really don't have to say about Jalis's new uh You feel me?
>> All right, man.
>> Can I take a piss, guys?
>> Hey, do your thing.
>> Oh, >> do your thing, bro.
>> Yeah, do your thing.
>> We going to talk about the Jalis all he's gone then.
>> Are we gonna skip? We skipping it?
>> Yeah. No, look, >> uh, we gonna come back once when Rick come back.
>> So, what we got? Got a former no jumper host Jalis Pino accuses Skinny from the nine of section of SA.
>> Hey, this is New Jersey, right?
>> Skinny from the nine. I >> He's from Jersey.
>> That boy from somewhere weird.
>> He's from Jersey, bro.
>> From near.
I swear to God.
>> Your head is crazy.
>> He's from Jersey, bro. You got to You got to defend your man.
>> I ain't n that ain't my man. I ain't going to hold you, bro. Be on weird type. So, I ain't going to defend that type of [ __ ] >> I know. I know. It's really not. One of the smallest ones here. You all definitely ran into each other in the club, bro. In Jersey.
>> I'm from Jersey City. I don't know where dude from. Where are you from? Excuse me.
>> I don't know where dude from.
>> Wait, what is a nine? The nine. What?
What is that?
>> I don't know. As said, I don't know where dude from.
>> Yeah. You know where the nine is in Jersey?
>> Not at all. Never heard of it. Never heard of >> six upside down. That's a nine now.
>> Now, I ain't going to hold you though.
This is kind of crazy. I've been seeing this build up. It's kind of hard with the with this situation because obviously I don't know Skinny, but I do kind of know Jalice and in my brief interactions with Jalis, she is known to be very volatile. So, it's like some of part part of me is hard because I've seen things on and off camera that people ain't see that makes me feel as if like how credible can Jalise be? Um, but obviously any any young woman who's claiming essay, obviously we want to make sure that we protect them and obviously first kind of get to the bottom of that. I'm seeing whacking them, putting out videos on it, but it's hard to kind of tell what's going on, who's who. She was saying she got a tattoo in the video. You don't really see a a a tattoo on the girl who's with um Skinny in the video. So, I don't know. I think it's kind of crazy. What's your ideas?
>> I think it's pretty obvious. What? Okay, I can't say that. I think for me, for my opinion, I think it's obvious what happened. It's it's the I think it's the same story that a lot of people is it's not a big deal until you make it a big deal. I think there was some intoxication and I think there [ __ ] that happens. I I've blacked out before. I've watched my stream back. I said that I don't even remember saying it wasn't even that bad.
Uh I don't we don't know. Um, but technically on paper, if you engage in sexual acts with somebody that's under the influence, that's considered nonsensual.
>> They both under the influence though, >> if she comes out cuz you could with her and she's just cool and whatever happened, she was down to. So, yeah, I blacked out, but we was cool. But she wake up and she like, >> I I was drunk. I don't know who is you.
You know what I'm saying? Or any of that. It's It's all bad.
>> This is like what college is. College literally every every people everybody in college is having drunk sex. So technically, you know, it's always >> and look at all the frat bros that are getting accused of our word and girls.
>> I'm thinking of like when So when two people, two individuals have drunk sex essentially >> you cannot consent.
>> The man is wrong because she didn't consent.
>> Yeah. Which ised up, but it's like it's always going to fall on the man. Even if y'all both equally blacked out or even if the man's more blacked out and the girl blacked out, it's always going to fall the responsibility on the man. For sure.
>> It's like that in California, right?
Only though.
>> I don't know cuz this is in Nevada. So this happened in Nevada. Okay.
>> I never heard of that before, so I don't even know.
>> You can't consent when you're impaired.
>> So, yeah. The situation they were saying was like, yeah, they was all partying.
They went out with like it was uh Skinny, it was Yella, it was him or her, you know what I'm saying? And I think a few other people. Um, they were all supposed to go out party with some white people. They were saying, you know what I'm saying? So, they at some point Skinny like, you know, I'm actually trying to go kick it with Jalis at the crib. You know what I'm saying? And as he slides Yella $100 and be like, you know what I'm saying? Yella then parts ways and goes and parties with the white people. Skinny and Jaliss split off and go back to Skinny's crib.
>> Just the craziest.
>> So now they're saying, uh, what do y'all think about that $100 swap? Cuz they're like, was Yella pimping her out? Was Yella, you know, trying to get her off or was that just homie Uber?
>> Y'all ever heard of that before? Is that something that's like a move? Is that like the meta? Like you pay her friend a hyundo to like Skidaddle? I'm imagining this is something >> and they're they're very close. Skinny and Yella are good friends, too. Great friends.
>> I not anything like this, but if I've been driving somewhere, I bring the homies and then you're looking to go part off. You can't really leave them stranded. You got them out there. So, it is kind of your responsibility to make sure that they're cool. I've given the homies some money to some Uber, >> get an Uber, you know.
>> Okay.
>> That's how I saw it, too. That's how I saw it, too.
>> I'm not comparing that to >> But it can be it can be something else.
It could be salacious.
>> Off the top of my head, it's just like, okay, we all agree, like all us four agree that we going to go out to the club and we going to do it up. You know what I'm saying? And then on the way, we pick up some hoes. You know what I'm saying? One of the is feeling me. I'm like, hey, Poo, Ricky, Kyle, I'm going to spin off. And then, you know, maybe Ricky's like, "Bro, we supposed to be out." You know what I'm saying? What's up with you? You know what I'm saying?
The whole plan was we all rocking. I'm like, "All right, bro." You know what I'm saying? Just for the troubles, you know what I'm saying? Since I'm going off plan, you know what I'm saying?
Here's some bread. I'm gonna, you know, in case you got to, you know, get the Uber. You know what I'm saying? when we you roll with me, you need a ride home.
I'm about to say that. You know, whatever plans that we had that included me that I'm now taking myself out of, this is to make up for that. You know what I'm saying?
>> I'm not giving the homies no goddamn money unless it was like a direct. If I drove you to the club and then I leave you, I'm giving you some bread. You could get home or whatever. I might just call a Uber at that point. You feel me?
But >> like um other than that, like if I'm just leaving the plans, I'm not giving you >> My homies would never ask either. And that's what makes it kind of a little transactional. Honestly, look, I'm I'm going just play devil's advocate, right?
Right. We ain't going to be all super nice. Like, it's weird at the end of the day, bro. You slipping somebody bread because it almost seems like yellow is the protector or the um connection between Skinny and Jalice.
>> Yeah.
>> You feel me?
>> Because Jis had said she had never met Skinny prior.
>> Yeah. So, assuming that he's the middle uh the middleman there, you feel me?
Like you see your homie, you you got a a a female homie, you feel me? And then you got another a male homie, you know what I mean? And you see your female homie drunk, you know, she and and listen, man, you know how she is. She already is love, but you put it out there yourself. You know what? She be on she be on other. You know what I'm saying? Like she be hot. You feel me? So respectfully, like >> you knowing that you going to automatically be on some big brother. I feel like like nah, I can't let her go out here and crash. You feel me? But then you with the homie >> and you let the homie swipe it. It's kind of weird, bro. Because I I I don't you know what I mean? Like we all know how she get.
>> So he paid her off.
>> I'm not going to make I'm not going to make an assumption and say he did that.
I'm just saying that it's it's weird.
You feel me? Like >> Jalisa initially said that uh Yellow was kind of perturbed by the $100 to Skidaddle. That Yellow was like not chill with like him paying him off or whatever to kind of get out of the situation. Like she said that there was some kind of argument in the car between them about the $100, right?
>> That's even more or less why he shouldn't have left him.
>> Yeah. But also they split at one point and and Jaliss had the option to go with Yella instead of staying with Skinny.
And then she chose to stay with Skinny.
So that and I'm not and women can take consent while you having sex with him.
She could say, "Hey, I'm not feeling this no more. You got your in or you got to take your out and be like, okay, it's over with. You can't just continue." So no matter any action where she chews up on Skinny does not allow him to take no coochie like say like even and that's why I was saying it goes back to the y'all just taught me now like bro at the end of the day even if she's consenting to something under the influence like that still it's not even valid it's not valid at that point. So literally everybody got to say all bets is off at that point.
>> And if you don't have that knowledge, imagine how many other people don't exactly know that, especially in that moment.
>> And when you drunk and you all substances and who knows what I think it's up to be honest, I'm going just say call it for what it is. I think it's up because if two individuals is blacked out drunk, we equally drunk >> and y'all saying I, you know, essayed her, like why can't y'all just say she Why isn't it she essayed me? You know what I'm saying? Like it's kind of weird, bro. So I think that ain't fair at all. But it is what it is. is that's what [ __ ] be.
>> But yeah, like now Skinny I guess Lush was saying he was posting [ __ ] that like he was going to harm himself and like you know what I'm saying? Like acting like you know his whole life over and over this. But you know supposedly there's an investigation going on. I don't know even if that's true. You know you kind of never know which is kind of sad with this story with you know we know Jaliss. But is this the Munchie clip or is this just >> Yeah, I think this is the Munchie clip.
>> Oh god. She was trying to go crazy on Munchie.
that blacks out under it's it's it's law. If I'm drunk as I black out and I'm intoxicated again, I don't know what the happened. I cannot get consensual uh consent. So, yes, I file a police and I went to the hospital. I went to the hospital right after that. Had to go get the full kit because on my mama, I don't know if the [ __ ] used to condom or not, [ __ ] Oh, my mama. You a weirdo. YOU BEEN A WEIRDO. The [ __ ] now he chasing me all around trying to get me to contact him. This that brother, I don't have nothing to talk to you about, brother. is a weirdo, brother. I'mma keep it ain't no real [ __ ] drunk around me that don't even know me and push up on me. A real going to be like, "All right, look. You fall asleep on the couch or here, I'mma give you A WATER BOTTLE OR HERE, I'm going to drop you off HERE. I'M OVER HERE." I BEEN AROUND [ __ ] DRUNK. I HAVE BEEN around DC drunk. Nothing happened. I have been around AF drunk, nothing happened. I'd have been around the tape. That's against the law. He committed another crime. I did file a report that sexual assault because I was intoxicated. a woman that's intoxicated that blacks out under it's it's it's law. If I'm drunk as I black out and I'm intoxicated and I don't know what the happened, I cannot get consent consensual uh consent. So yes, I follow the police and I went to the hospital around [ __ ] where I was drunk as [ __ ] and nothing happened.
Blood is a weirdo. He's thirsty for >> that's just what it is. And he he did it. I didn't rape blood. I didn't like whatever. I might have been drunk, but that nigga's a weirdo, bro. He's a weirdo. and on my mama I will have my damn court. everything he's sending to us. I hope he got ready for the detectives cuz they going to come and when they finally do prom and they look into this I need everything to make sense because everybody's going to be subpoenaed to court. I don't give a I tried so hard to keep this under the radar but 607 got mad platform so now he wanted to take it to the internet and that's what the >> Okay. How do you react to the video that posted that he purports is you basically denying that skinny did anything wrong.
No, I denied cuz they were saying I was saying I got raped. I kept saying I never said I got raped. I said I got taken advantage of. That is considered sexual assault when you don't remember.
>> If this goes to court, I'm pretty sure it's going to be a rape charge, right?
>> No, it ain't.
>> So that's what the detective said. The detective did say that if you were intoxicating [ __ ] OR I WAS DRUNK AS [ __ ] and nothing happened. Blood is a weirdo. He's thirsty for >> That's just what it is. You going to try to justify it?
>> You talked about your allegations on the internet.
>> Hey, >> bro. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yell said, I said, "Come with me. You don't want to come and you left." She said, "Yeah, you right. You right." Yeah. I want to go party with the white people. What? Oh, [ __ ] You got a You was drunk. Didn't nobody take that little crystal.
You talking about Did nobody TAKE YOUR CRYSTAL METH.
HEY, BRO. BRO. HEY. HEY. HEY. HEY. HEY.
YOU'RE LYING, BRO. The police would have been came already. What you mean? What you talking about? A rap if it's by force. Bro, you open your legs and you just don't remember. You drinking too much Taka vodka. Shut the up Nevada.
Nevada, bro. They got zero tolerance on drugs out there and you be on crystal meth. [ __ ] you going to the pin, [ __ ] SHUT UP. SHUT THE [ __ ] UP. N Shut up, [ __ ] Shut up. Shut up. Shut up.
Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. If this house so ghetto, why you taking your kids there? If the house so ghetto, if the house so ghetto, why you taking your kids over there?
>> If the if the house so ghetto, why >> you going to try to justify it? Because there so many men trying to lie >> is the go, >> bro. I was dying when it happened, bro.
Oh my god.
>> Really couldn't help myself.
>> Crystal meth is crazy.
>> Funny.
>> Yeah, cuz it seems like out of everything that I've heard Jalice say, this seems like she's being genuine.
Like she seems like even if she was going at some point, she blacked out and doesn't really remember what happened.
She's not a legend that he took it, but she'd like to have an investigation so they can see the tape that is supposedly filmed and they could see if she passed out and he was doing to her. So, >> someone explained the difference between because she said it wasn't that I was raped, it was that I uh >> taken advantage of. So, she essentially saying like we I agreed to something but in that moment I became too incapacitated to keep going so I stopped and you didn't. No, I think it's like kind of what we was saying where like she might even been into it, but she's blackout drunk and can't actually consent. So when she comes too, she's like, "Yeah, maybe I was flirty and blacked out drunk and you but I wouldn't have done that with a clear mind." Is pretty much what she's saying.
>> Like at the point where she was like a real one would have just been like, "You know what? I think maybe you're not really up for this right now. Let me just give you this bottle of water. Give you like a little blanket."
>> And we've all been there. We've all been like, you know what I'm saying? Want to crack something. you get to the crib and you're like, "This is way too faded."
Like, just go to bed. You feel me? It's spunky for that.
>> And I feel like that's the just best you could do where it's like delineated places like you were here all night. I was in my room type of thing. You feel me? You're whatever. Exactly.
>> Yeah. You might not even want to take a, you know, a short sleep next to her cuz she might wake up and think you did something. You know what I'm saying? I think just with girls that get that drunk is just, you know, I would tell my nephew or any of my little homies like just if a even drinks a lot on the regular, don't even with her. You know what I'm saying? Cuz it's just you're asking for something like this to happen. No matter how cool you think you is with the girl, every girl could have that moment where she like, I don't know what happened. I don't know what you did to me and I'm going to go to the police.
>> And more remember the Aziz I'm sorry thing where like there was they weren't even like up like that. She just the next day was like, "Uh, actually, I wasn't really that comfortable even though I said I was in the moment." So, it's like >> He didn't even I think he stuck his fingers in her mouth and made out with her, I think. And he got cancelled for that show.
>> Oh, he got cancelled.
>> Yeah. Yeah, they canled him. It was like the Me Too movement. That's why it was going crazy back then.
>> I mean, do you guys remember like Andrew Callahan Channel 5?
>> Absolutely. He got cancelled. He got cancelled, too. And again, girl was not wasted. She just said later on that in the moment she felt pressure.
>> But he was on He did admit he was on some sex pit. You know what I'm saying?
Where he was like kept asking the [ __ ] kept bothering her like, you know what I'm saying? Wanting to and then she eventually caved in. And that's like, you know, it's not as bad as, you know, taking some not even close. But that's that's just normal. What DMing over and over is you ping.
I think it's different when you're a person and you're a person of prominence versus like >> and it was a random little like from his hometown type thing. You know what I'm saying?
>> And bro, listen, at the end of the day, I think it's two things that we got to do. We got to keep people honest, you feel me? And we got to respect people for for whatever they feel as if happened to them. Yeah. You feel me? But like I said, I think sometimes we forget about keeping people honest, you know what I'm saying? Like >> it's crazy, bro, that somebody could say, "Hey, yo, I'm down for this." And then tomorrow be like, "Nah, I'm good."
You know what I mean? Like that's crazy, bro. And then and then now your life is over because of that [ __ ] So I think at a point we got to like keep people honest, bro.
>> Yeah. Look at all the college athletes that their whole careers have been ruined. They were supposed to go to all the leagues and they some >> not for the dudes taking it. You feel me? I ain't talking about for the dudes taking it, but for sitting here like >> cuz there's a bunch of weirdos that ruin it for everybody else that's out outside doing whatever, slipping, drinks, all kinds of that is prominent as even today. Low key, that's why those consent courses, like the new ones that they do hit so hard. And I feel like everybody should go through that. Like, you know, in college they make you do it or whatever because like you really learn how to navigate those situations and some people are like, "Oh, this kills my game or whatever. We didn't have that."
>> But it helps actually talk the opposite.
Go ahead.
>> It's like a a black dude that do the classes and it's with like little boys like that's 12 and he's hitting them with like the like, you know, like reading a girl's body language like, "Oh, let me get a hug." and she like kind of iffy but you pressure and then she's like okay I'll give you a hug.
He's like no we don't do that type of [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? Like she should want to be you know engaging with you. It shouldn't be a force thing like but there's all kinds of nuances with dating and interacting with women that [ __ ] a lot of people just if your big homies, your older cousins, your pops don't put you on game, they just going out in the world and just doing you know what I'm saying?
>> I remember that give me the hug dude in high school.
>> Absolutely. And that's literally it's a course so these kids don't turn into where my hug at.
the same posture every time. Where my hug at? They be the ugliest. The same dudes that go up to the twerking and she turn around and then stop twerking and walk off. We all got homies like that for sure. The yiking era. Yeah, for sure. I had homies getting hit with that, >> man. I just wish that Jaliss would just like take a breather, bro. Like, you need to be offline like for a cool minute. not just with this whole scenario like everything she's been through this past year and now like people are questioning if this is real or not and stuff and it's just all symptomatic of what's happening. I don't have an opinion on this. As I said before I left, I don't think anyone should have an opinion on it. I think it's an investigation that's going to happen. The only thing I'm saying is that if Jaliss, all these people link back up after this, >> that's going to be crazy.
>> YouTube needs to take that page down.
YouTube needs to take that page down.
>> Yeah, the story's got some holes in it, but I'm never going to stand on business for some dude I don't know who had some things where he could have called it quits and he still went through with it.
So that's there's some weird parts on his part and like things like Jalice saying, "Oh, I couldn't get the done because you have to have police report.
I looked that up immediately in Nevada.
No, you don't. They take Jane Doe accusers and they'll do the kit for you no matter what." So there's like some holes on both sides of the story. So I, you know, I definitely want to see all the evidence.
>> I gotten it done.
>> That's what it sound like. She said on the call, she said, "I got the whole kit."
>> But she was acting like she went later because there was some hold up from the thing and then she had to wait and then like Adam looked up yesterday. It's like what is it 92 hours or some like 72 hours where you have to get it done or it just like loses hell of credibility and [ __ ] And >> and to be to be fair to Jaliss though, it sounds like she's not really trying to like hang, bro. You know, like she said, like I don't consider this rword, but I do feel like there were some misdemeanor type actions going on. You know what I'm saying? Like >> to be honest, too, like maybe there's a little bit more insider input, but I think she said in here too, she wanted to keep this pushing.
>> She did not want to still other people were talking about it. And >> well, also when they were like really >> tried to make this story line, who tried to make this his own? So I think UNC came out but they got her to say like we was insinuating to talking about you know touching on the topic by not actually saying it and then UN kind of used that me kind of insinuating about the situation when we're talking on the pod together to where it's like oh the allegation started to kind of get the light shined on it and then 607 just came out was like fired her you know what I'm saying started posting about it and this is her response. Okay. So, I take back what I just said about you, Jalice, because it doesn't sound like she was trying to broadcast this to the world and make it content >> because it happened over a month ago.
>> A month ago.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Cuz the initial clip I saw, I think it was her and Yella, they were kind of faded talking about it in some sort of way. So, I thought they were just trying to make it content, >> but that's not what was initially happening. So, I I take that back. Like, this should have definitely been handled off of camera. This is like sad to see it play out.
>> Yeah. want to be able to believe women, but with Jalisa is just really hard. And sadly, >> be honest, bro. That's what I'm saying.
Like, >> it might be, you know, she might have li she might have made this whole thing up, which is, you know, people are like, why would she do that? Bro, I've seen a million athletes have ruin their life and then come out later and say, I made the whole thing up.
>> Skinny.
>> I know. I'm just saying these are college athletes before NIL. They didn't have no money either. And they was getting hit with the case >> right next to Jaliss on that [ __ ] couch, bro. when she calls somebody a PDF >> and I seen her with that person a little bit.
>> That's been brought up a lot.
>> Like that to me is like we was just speaking about earlier, that's a crazy claim to make somebody, bro.
>> Like, and to just then be with that person again. And then somebody I don't know who said it earlier, somebody was like, "Yo, it'll be crazy. Ricky said it. It'd be crazy to see them all back together." But look at what we seen already. But like just to that though, you could be the biggest piece of on earth and that still doesn't mean that someone could assault you and you know what I'm saying. I'm just saying I'm just saying I get what you're saying and that that's what we're all >> No, he's saying a piece of could possibly make something terrible like this up. That's that's what we're saying.
>> If you seen somebody do something that was >> if something happened to her, she could Yeah. Like >> put it past somebody to do something very bad again. Like she could be a prostitute that sells it every night and it don't mean that somebody could take the coochie. You know what I'm saying?
>> It ain't it ain't anybody doing no weird [ __ ] >> But if she lied, she's damn near, you know, on the same level as that's taking advantage of drunk girls.
>> Like any like anything else, bro, you going to look at somebody's credibility.
You know what I'm saying?
>> No, no. That's why that's why I made the comment. I don't think that you're defending any of the weird, by the way, just to clean it up. But I'm just saying like obviously this person's character is very shaky and we all can admit that.
You know what I'm saying? But I just feel like women, kids, we kind of play with a different realm of sensitivity with them. You know what I'm saying?
Because like if she was in a situation where she was taken advantage of, there's not much she could do to stop it.
>> You know what I'm saying?
>> Being blackout drunk or on other substances as well, >> right? You know what I'm saying? So, it's like we still got to like, you know, kind of leave that little bit of room for >> Yeah, for sure. We are though.
>> We have We have for sure. cuz I I'm not standing on the skinny from the nine line.
>> Acknowledging both sides and understanding the you know what I mean like the perspective of so we were sitting there during that New Year stream and you could look at my face the entire time I'm sitting on this couch and I'm like I can't believe this girl has all this to say about this man and you were just kicking it with him so you knew he was like messing with underage girls but you was still letting them hit.
>> Like how does that work? I was like, women's minds can't be that different.
>> Cuz like we give the kids and the women the benefit of the doubt, but until it's the boy who cried wolf, then it's like, bro, you you said a bunch of [ __ ] that it ended up not adding up. It's like >> we just have to take that. Exactly. We would be fools to ignore that.
>> We would be fools to ignore it for sure.
It's Yeah. It's just like, man, some people don't belong on the internet, bro. Like I honestly I don't think shorty is like an iota of entertaining and just this is too much real life. You know what I'm saying? I like my crash outs l like lush one. It's about as far as I could go. Lush one. You know, >> we live in the authenticity world though. People want it to be real.
Unfortunately, you just don't want I just don't want to be that person that has to, you know, subject myself.
>> Yeah. Put your whole life crazy. You got to have some sort of >> all your family members on the internet and all that. At a certain point, you're not you can't play with certain titles and jackets and like that cuz it's going to it's not going to end well and it makes you look crazy for still associated.
>> Can we look at the T- Rail one real quick since I think >> Do we ever figure out how much Michael Black was getting?
>> No, no, we'll go back to that one cuz I know MICHAEL the Tro one would have been quick but it's good. Let's do it. how much money he's getting from these checks,
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