2 Daughters Regret Texting Their Father About Their Mother and Her Fiancé's "Minor" Argument

Added: 2026-05-05

[00:00:00]NO. NO. DAVID. DAVID.

[00:00:06]>> DAVID. NO. PLEASE. DAVID. NO. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.

[00:00:10]>> BACK UP.

[00:00:11]>> DAVID.

[00:00:12]NO. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.

[00:00:18]I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.

[00:00:20]>> On the afternoon of June 17th, 2025, officers from the Gentry Police Department in Arkansas arrived at a quiet residential home responding to a domestic disturbance call. What began as a knock at the door escalated within minutes into a forcible takedown and an arrest. So, how much of the Constitution actually crosses that threshold with the officers and how much stays outside?

[00:00:42]>> J police department.

[00:00:46]>> We're fine.

[00:00:47]>> Nope. Step out.

[00:00:48]>> I'm not stepping out of my home.

[00:00:49]>> Okay.

[00:00:51]>> You You're the one who pulled me over.

[00:00:53]You're the one who keeps >> I I don't feel comfortable stepping out of my home. Is that the husband? Contact made. Females refuse to come out.

[00:01:00]>> I don't have to come outside.

[00:01:02]>> We >> I don't have to come outside.

[00:01:04]>> Is your husband here or your boyfriend?

[00:01:06]>> But my fiance is here.

[00:01:07]>> I need y'all to step out. We got called here.

[00:01:11]Okay. So, I need you to step out. Just let us deal with this and we'll be good.

[00:01:16]>> But we don't even know why you're being c. You were having an argument.

[00:01:20]>> Okay. And that's why we're here. So, go ahead and step out. Now, >> hang on. What? Give me one second so I can inform my fiance that the >> All right.

[00:01:31]Okay. Come on out.

[00:01:33]>> Oh my god.

[00:01:34]>> Yeah, it's him. The one that keeps harassing us.

[00:01:37]>> I have never >> Oh, yes, you have. When I got pulled over at the gas station over there, >> you're going to step OUT IN THE YARD.

[00:01:44]>> I'M GOING TO STEP BY THE YARD. And you're not going to And you're not going to raise YOUR VOICE AT ME. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG. NO, SIR. YOU'RE NOT.

[00:01:50]>> STEP OUT IN THE YARD.

[00:01:51]>> NO. NO. DAVID. DAVID.

[00:01:57]DAVID, NO. PLEASE, DAVID, NO. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. NO, >> DAVID.

[00:02:04]NO. NO. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.

[00:02:08]>> I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.

[00:02:12]>> PUT YOUR HAND BEHIND YOUR BACK. DO IT NOW.

[00:02:15]>> I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.

[00:02:19]>> DAVID, help me. Help me.

[00:02:23]811. I got one female detained.

[00:02:25]>> I haven't done anything. I haven't done anything other than want to come outside because I knew this was going to happen.

[00:02:32]I knew you were going to [ __ ] you.

[00:02:36]Now I double >> roll on your side.

[00:02:42]>> Send you up. Okay.

[00:02:45]>> Why am I Why are you doing this to me?

[00:02:48]WHY ARE Y'ALL DOING THE Where are YOU TAKING ME? WHERE ARE YOU TAKING ME?

[00:02:55]>> Why are you >> Can we talk without all this getting going? What's going on? We got called here that you slapped her in the face.

[00:03:02]>> Nobody slapped anybody.

[00:03:03]>> That's why we're here.

[00:03:04]>> No, nobody. This is her. This is her.

[00:03:10]>> Hello.

[00:03:12]>> Where's Melissa?

[00:03:13]>> She's The cops have her detained.

[00:03:16]>> Okay.

[00:03:18]vehicle when she can >> do what?

[00:03:21]>> You have her vehicle when she can.

[00:03:23]>> Well, she's getting in the back of the car.

[00:03:26]>> Okay.

[00:03:29]>> Why is she getting off the car?

[00:03:31]>> I don't know.

[00:03:36]>> You can continue. Just slow him down.

[00:03:40]>> What is going on?

[00:03:42]>> Me and Melissa Me and Melissa was got into an argument.

[00:03:47]>> Uhhuh.

[00:03:47]>> And The girls called the cops, >> right?

[00:03:53]>> So, okay.

[00:03:55]>> When when the cops when >> when the cops opened the door, she told them she was not coming outside, that everything was fine, that they shouldn't have been caught here.

[00:04:05]>> Okay.

[00:04:09]Okay. All right. Uh, let me talk to the girls, please.

[00:04:14]>> All right.

[00:04:15]>> Everything else good from here, >> huh? They all go down.

[00:04:18]>> As far as I know, cuz I'm trying still trying to figure out.

[00:04:20]>> Nothing happened.

[00:04:22]>> We got into an argument.

[00:04:24]>> Okay.

[00:04:24]>> Things got loud.

[00:04:26]>> Okay.

[00:04:26]>> They called the cops.

[00:04:27]>> Okay.

[00:04:30]>> Which which starts an investigation in which we have the ability to detain people for an investigation.

[00:04:34]>> You don't have to kick the key, sir. You can hand it to me.

[00:04:44]>> What is his issue? Which one?

[00:04:46]>> Him.

[00:04:47]>> Him?

[00:04:47]>> No, the big guy.

[00:04:48]>> Oh, I have no >> Why don't he put his hands on her?

[00:04:52]>> She didn't do nothing to him.

[00:04:54]>> She wasn't going to come out and talk to us.

[00:04:56]>> She was right here outside talking to you.

[00:04:58]>> And I came up here and I said, "Exactly my piece." And then you he went he went to grab her and he she's like, "I haven't done anything wrong." Then he put his hands on her. I know the laws.

[00:05:08]>> Do you?

[00:05:08]>> Yes.

[00:05:09]>> Okay.

[00:05:09]>> I'm mean I'm a registered nurse and I work with I work with forensics patients. Okay. Forensics and the law are different now.

[00:05:17]>> I Yeah.

[00:05:18]>> We have every right to detain her during investigation.

[00:05:21]>> Yeah.

[00:05:22]>> Yeah. And she has to do what we tell her to do. Whether we tell her to stand over here, stand over there, she got to do it.

[00:05:27]>> Okay. He don't have to put his hands on her manhandling.

[00:05:29]>> When she don't When she says no, he does.

[00:05:32]>> Okay. When she don't listen, that's what happens.

[00:05:35]>> Mhm.

[00:05:35]>> Yep. 100%.

[00:05:38]Like if we want to talk and I tell you we're going to stand over here and talk, you got to stand over there and talk.

[00:05:49]So, what is going on?

[00:05:50]>> So, somebody called >> the two girls called.

[00:05:54]>> Okay. So, I'm going to talk to them. Can you stay with him?

[00:05:56]>> That's fine with me.

[00:05:59]>> Them ladies here.

[00:06:00]>> Where you guys at?

[00:06:02]>> What?

[00:06:04]>> Can we chitchat with you? Okay. Where do you want to talk at? Where do you feel most Where do you feel most comfortable with?

[00:06:09]>> I don't know.

[00:06:10]>> Here, I guess.

[00:06:10]>> Okay. All right. I'm gonna talk to you in here. Anybody else in the house?

[00:06:13]>> No.

[00:06:14]>> Okay.

[00:06:14]>> There's just two dogs in the garage.

[00:06:16]>> Okay.

[00:06:19]>> What's going on?

[00:06:20]>> So, do y'all understand what happened out there? She was mad. When there's an investigation, we say, "Hey, you need to come out here and talk to us because >> I understand."

[00:06:27]>> Okay. I just I know it looks >> See, my mom got it getting me like really emotional.

[00:06:32]>> I know. Okay. So, who called?

[00:06:35]>> I think our dad.

[00:06:36]>> Okay. Your dad. I'm going close this.

[00:06:39]I don't break it. I will run into that.

[00:06:41]Okay. So, what happened?

[00:06:43]>> Okay. So, what I've heard is I woke up I think at like 12. They've been fighting for a hot minute.

[00:06:48]>> Yeah. The door slam like four times straight.

[00:06:51]>> They're slamming the door. Right.

[00:06:52]They're yelling at each other.

[00:06:53]>> Okay.

[00:06:54]>> Um I'm like, "Okay, it's another argument. Another one. They always argue like a lot." Okay.

[00:07:00]>> Right. He always breaks something.

[00:07:01]>> Okay.

[00:07:02]>> Did Did he hit her today?

[00:07:03]>> I think so. He's She's like, "Hit me.

[00:07:05]Hit me." And I hear a >> So, you heard a slap. I can hear everything through my back uh wall. Like their bathroom was connected to like I can hear.

[00:07:14]>> Go look in their room. Like there's something probably broken in there like >> Okay.

[00:07:18]>> Okay. So he she said, "Hit me. Hit me."

[00:07:20]And you heard >> Can you tell me what it sounded like?

[00:07:24]>> Like a like >> skin on skin or like a loud thud?

[00:07:28]>> I don't know. Like it was I don't know.

[00:07:31]From here and there it sound like a like a like a >> like a slap.

[00:07:37]>> Okay. You know what I mean?

[00:07:38]>> Okay. And let me get your name.

[00:07:40]>> [ __ ] another girl.

[00:07:41]>> And that's what I heard.

[00:07:43]>> Okay.

[00:07:43]>> Yeah.

[00:07:43]>> Okay.

[00:07:44]>> And she has screenshots. I could probably find them right now of like um him adding other girls on like Snapchat and like unatting them. See like when they argue I'm like nosy. I'm like, "Okay, what are they arguing about?"

[00:07:56]He's like >> about what they like. They have a point to argue and stuff like that.

[00:08:02]>> Okay. So, any other times any other times he's hit her?

[00:08:06]No, I don't think so. Um, I heard they do.

[00:08:10]>> Well, this might be ad, but they have a gun, >> but I don't think they would use it.

[00:08:14]Like, I think they only use it to protect themselves. So, like if they're like >> going on a road trip, you know, you want to bring just in case someone's a little ghetto a little bit. So, I don't know where it is. It could be in their room or in someone's car.

[00:08:25]>> Okay.

[00:08:26]>> I don't know where they could put it.

[00:08:27]>> Okay. So, may Okay. So, right here when you walk in, it could be in this drawer.

[00:08:32]>> Mhm.

[00:08:32]>> Right here.

[00:08:33]>> Okay.

[00:08:33]>> Yeah. But going on the physical stuff that happened today, he slapped her. She said, "Slap me. I dare you." Whatever.

[00:08:40]>> Yeah.

[00:08:40]>> And then you heard a noise that sounded like a slap >> in like some glass breaking.

[00:08:44]>> And some glass break.

[00:08:45]>> Yeah.

[00:08:45]>> Okay. All righty. Thank you, >> you guys. Okay.

[00:08:51]>> Okay. Start with the doctrine that defines the encounter. Under Peyton versus New York decided in 1980, the front door of a home is a constitutional boundary. Officers may not cross that threshold for a warrantless arrest, absent consent, exigent circumstances, or hot pursuit. A subject standing inside retains the full home presumption. The refusal to step outside was not by itself unlawful. The second doctrine is investigative detention.

[00:09:17]Under Terry versus Ohio, a corroborated 911 call alleging intimate partner battery supplies reasonable articulable suspicion that authorizes brief detention and separation of parties. But Terry authority permits movement control, not compliance through force against passive refusal. Hibble versus sixth judicial district drew that line.

[00:09:36]Verbal non-ooperation alone does not ripen into probable cause for arrest.

[00:09:40]The third doctrine governs the takedown.

[00:09:43]Graham versus Connor 1989 sets objective reasonleness across three factors.

[00:09:48]Severity of the offense high. Immediate threat low. The subject was unarmed and not striking. Resistance or flight passive only one arm pulled away. Under 8th circuit precedent governing Arkansas passive resistance warrants control holds not a ground takedown. The force sits at the outer edge of Graham's reasonable range. The fourth doctrine is Miranda timing. Miranda versus Arizona requires warnings before custodial interrogation. not before arrest.

[00:10:14]Spontaneous statements from a handcuffed subject remain admissible, but the officer's question to the male party about whether the throne vacuum was meant to intimidate is legally significant. Under Stansbury versus California custody turns on a reasonable perception of freedom to leave. That pre-warning question may be suppressible. A separate statutory layer governs the charge. Arkansas criminalizes knownly obstructing a public servant performing a lawful duty.

[00:10:38]The lawfulness predicate is essential.

[00:10:40]If the order was unlawful, the charge collapses. Here, the order to step into the yard during an active domestic investigation was lawful under Terry.

[00:10:48]The obstruction charge is statutoily defensible regardless of how counterintuitive the arrest feels.

[00:10:56]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:11:02]>> Did he slap you today?

[00:11:03]>> No.

[00:11:04]>> Okay. Cuz your daughters are saying he did.

[00:11:06]>> No. He got angry and threw a vacuum, but he did never put his hands on me. Okay.

[00:11:12]>> Okay. Yeah. I'm asking what he did to her. So, daughters are telling me that she said [ __ ] slap >> and then they heard a slap.

[00:11:21]>> Okay.

[00:11:21]>> And the caller, who is her ex-husband, says that she was slapped.

[00:11:28]>> Okay.

[00:11:28]>> So, she's denying that he was slapped, but he did throw a vacuum and do some other stuff. And I heard some glass breaking as well.

[00:11:36]>> So, okay.

[00:11:40]But he didn't.

[00:11:42]>> She's saying he didn't slap her.

[00:11:44]>> She's saying Yeah, she did not slap.

[00:11:47]>> She did not slap.

[00:11:48]>> I'm sorry. He did not slap her.

[00:11:51]>> He threw a vacuum cleaner.

[00:11:53]>> Threw a vacuum cleaner and broke some glass.

[00:11:55]>> What did you >> She She just told me he threw a vacuum and then they hurt broken glass.

[00:12:01]So, >> okay. Who was uh She's the one fighting.

[00:12:06]>> She's the one that fight. So I opened the door and she's like, "You're harassing me." I'm like, "I've never talked to you a day in my life." But okay. And then he we said, "Step out over here." And she wouldn't initially come out. That's when he got on scene.

[00:12:16]We asked her to step to the, you know, out away from him cuz he was coming up so we could kind of separate him. And then she's like, "No." And then he was like, "Ma'am." And then the then she locked up and wanted to >> just resist passively.

[00:12:29]>> Yeah. up until we then she went against the wall and then was kind of pushing him away and then so I got her I got one arm and I drugg her out further away from the wall. I threw a cuff on her and then rolled her over and eventually I just I when I screamed at her, you put your hands behind your [ __ ] back.

[00:12:43]She's okay. Okay. And then cuffed her and that was it.

[00:12:47]>> She has a false what?

[00:12:50]>> She does. Yeah.

[00:12:50]>> She has a what warranted.

[00:12:58]Okay.

[00:13:00]So maybe you spoke to him yet.

[00:13:03]>> Yeah. He's like, "Yeah, there's nothing happening here."

[00:13:06]He's like, "We're arguing, but that's it." And you know, that's his his story there. I haven't really in detailed talk. I was mostly worried about him jumping in and then So, okay.

[00:13:22]>> We get a name yet.

[00:13:23]>> I haven't got anything from him. So, but >> yeah, >> I guess we'll see talk to Jack and see what he's >> Okay, >> w87.

[00:13:54]Here we are.

[00:13:59]>> Okay. No. Okay. No, I >> cuz we literally moved we literally moved here >> to get them in a better school. So, we were in Fateville.

[00:14:08]>> Okay.

[00:14:09]>> But I know small towns and I know small town [ __ ] >> Yeah.

[00:14:12]>> I grew up in small towns.

[00:14:14]>> Okay.

[00:14:14]>> She did too.

[00:14:17]>> Okay.

[00:14:21]said you >> I can tell you I work at Fville [ __ ] hole >> rules crim procedure are all the same everywhere in the state and that investigation would have gone exactly this way there or anywhere else in Arkansas officer conduct investigation they tell you to walk somewhere do something stay here stay there you have to comply >> but when she stepped outside there should have been no >> she refusing to come out at one point >> she said she wasn't going to come out and she stepped to here and then we said come come over here cuz we were trying to separate you so we can get the story, right? And then she's like, "No." And then >> then Ryan went to guide her. And then that's when it that's when >> you can't pull away. You can't hear. You can't say no.

[00:15:00]>> Just It's so easy to walk over here.

[00:15:03]>> Yeah. We're just going to go around the corner.

[00:15:06]So, um Okay, I'll be right back.

[00:15:16]>> Is he good? Is he good?

[00:15:18]>> I don't have any.

[00:15:22]>> Okay. So, he says he broke the vacuum.

[00:15:24]He didn't break any glass. And she's accusing him of cheating.

[00:15:31]>> 81. Go ahead.

[00:15:39]>> Um, she didn't like the whole thing. If you watch, go back and watch it. She said, "You're harassing And I'm like, I've never talked to you a day in my life.

[00:15:48]But what it was is Chase had her stopped in that vehicle because of expired registration over at Max's Auto. He called for a second unit. I showed up. I never talked to her. And so, but it's because I guess husband walked up on his traffic stop and then was like staring at him. So, he just wanted to have another unit.

[00:16:05]>> Okay.

[00:16:06]>> And he's like, "Well, then I see you everywhere."

[00:16:09]>> You are in gentry.

[00:16:11]>> And I don't sit static very >> and I don't sit static very often. So, but okay. So, um so so as far as uh criminal charges, I mean obviously if she's got a warrant as a confirmed >> we're going to have charges in the very least we don't resist >> for him.

[00:16:39]>> It's a property break. I mean, >> yeah. No, but down in the middle of a fight, was it an assault?

[00:16:45]>> Is it an assault?

[00:16:47]>> Yeah.

[00:16:47]>> Did he throw it to to intimidate or scare her to cause, >> you know, >> probably out of anger? But yeah.

[00:16:53]>> Yeah. Yeah. Uh did he throw it towards her, away from her?

[00:16:57]>> And and did she do anything to assault him? You know, >> I'm just saying.

[00:17:02]>> Yeah.

[00:17:03]>> Uh in the very least, she got resisted.

[00:17:05]>> Yeah.

[00:17:06]>> So, okay. Well, I'll double check with him on some of those things and then >> if if if not if it was just break the damn thing and not not like he didn't like throw it towards her >> to intimidate or scare her or whatever.

[00:17:20]>> Okay.

[00:17:22]>> All right.

[00:17:26]>> So, when you threw the vacuum, describe to me that whole situation.

[00:17:32]>> Like, how did you throw? Like >> I didn't throw it. I just literally picked it up and >> just slammed it on the ground. Yep.

[00:17:38]>> Just to Were you trying to scare her?

[00:17:40]Were you just trying to get her to shut up? Get her attention.

[00:17:42]>> Yeah, just get her to just go on.

[00:17:44]>> Okay.

[00:17:45]>> But nobody got hit. I didn't hit her.

[00:17:47]>> Okay.

[00:17:48]>> Nothing like that.

[00:17:49]>> She didn't hit you though. No. Okay.

[00:17:51]>> None of us got touched.

[00:17:53]>> Okay.

[00:17:57]>> All right.

[00:18:00]So, here's what here's what we're doing.

[00:18:02]You're going to be currently placed under arrest for resisting an obstruction of the investigation. Okay.

[00:18:07]>> I didn't I didn't mean to. I didn't know WHAT WAS GOING ON.

[00:18:09]>> SO, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to read you your rights and then we can talk. Okay.

[00:18:12]>> I didn't know what was going on. Can I I can I didn't know.

[00:18:16]>> Let me see. Okay.

[00:18:17]>> No, I didn't know.

[00:18:18]>> All right. You have the right >> I know. I know my rights.

[00:18:20]>> I still got to read them. You have the right to remain silent. You understand?

[00:18:23]>> Can I get shoes?

[00:18:24]>> Yeah. I'll get you some shoes.

[00:18:26]>> You have the right to remain silent. You understand those rights?

[00:18:30]Okay. I need you to say yes or no.

[00:18:33]>> Be a lie.

[00:18:35]>> Okay. Then you're going you'll take the charges.

[00:18:37]>> Okay. Okay. Okay.

[00:18:39]>> You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand?

[00:18:41]>> Yes, sir.

[00:18:41]>> Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. Do you understand?

[00:18:45]>> You have the right to talk to privately.

[00:18:46]I'm sorry. You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have him or her present with you while you are being questioned.

[00:18:51]You understand?

[00:18:52]>> If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, won't be appointed to represent you before any questioning if you wish. You understand? Can >> I talk to my kids?

[00:18:59]Do you understand that one?

[00:19:00]>> Yes.

[00:19:00]>> Okay. You can decide at any time uh tax exercise these rights and not answer any questions or make any statements. Do you understand?

[00:19:06]>> Yes.

[00:19:06]>> Okay.

[00:19:08]>> Do you understand your rights as they have been explained to you?

[00:19:10]>> Yes.

[00:19:10]>> Okay.

[00:19:11]>> All right. So, we are not going to let your kids come see you.

[00:19:14]>> Um the reason being is because I'm I'm not going to bring kids out here to watch your mom be handcuffed. That's just not how we're going to do things.

[00:19:19]>> Can I >> I promise I I won't do anything. I prom I swear >> it's we're not going to bring your kids out here to see you in handcuffs and back police. the last they see me.

[00:19:28]>> I know. I've already talked to them and explain to them and they understand what happened and they're not crying. They're not upset.

[00:19:33]>> Okay. I just want to make sure >> they're they're fine. They're like, "We know mom can't do that."

[00:19:36]>> And I said, "Okay. Um, I'm going to go get you some shoes. You have them. I'll ask your daughters where they're at." Is that cool?

[00:19:41]>> You can ask I have slides.

[00:19:43]>> You get some slides.

[00:19:44]>> I mean, I don't That's what you can have from jail. I don't know.

[00:19:47]>> Yeah, that's fine. I'll get them for you.

[00:19:48]>> Can I have socks?

[00:19:49]>> Uh, socks one time. Grab one time.

[00:19:54]>> I don't know if I can.

[00:19:54]>> I don't know if you can have them in jail. I'll just get the slides. That way you don't have a lot of stuff to lose.

[00:19:58]>> Okay.

[00:19:59]>> Can I talk to >> I'm sorry.

[00:20:01]>> Can I talk to any of my family?

[00:20:03]>> Uh, not at this time.

[00:20:05]>> Okay.

[00:20:06]>> I didn't send some keys. I don't know if you have like a bag or something you want to put them in.

[00:20:11]>> Okay.

[00:20:15]>> He wants to know if she wants her their dad.

[00:20:18]>> Okay. Oh, come in. Lucky. Go ahead.

[00:20:23]>> All right. He said I can make a phone call to jail, but I don't have anyone's numbers.

[00:20:26]>> Okay. Whose number do you need?

[00:20:28]>> Um, I would like Justin's.

[00:20:30]>> You want to slide out? Slide your feet out here and I'll just >> I haven't used them all day today.

[00:20:36]>> Okay. They'll feed you down there.

[00:20:43]>> Oh, what numbers you need? You said Justin's. Huh?

[00:20:45]>> Yeah, >> just Justin's.

[00:20:47]>> I didn't get that one.

[00:20:49]>> She's requesting. Who's Justin?

[00:20:52]>> Dad. Okay. Can I get his Do you have his phone number?

[00:20:56]>> He went in there to get the phone.

[00:20:57]>> Okay. She just wants that and I'm going to give it to her so she can make that call when she goes to jail for whatever if she needs it. So, >> okay.

[00:21:05]>> So, I just want to >> that I don't have the number.

[00:21:07]>> The girls do.

[00:21:08]>> The girls do.

[00:21:08]>> Okay.

[00:21:15]>> Police.

[00:21:18]What's her name? Melissa. What's mom's name?

[00:21:21]>> Melissa, I believe. Um, Melissa.

[00:21:23]>> Hey, this uh Justin Hayes, detectives Fuentes with Gent Police Department.

[00:21:29]>> What's her name? Melissa.

[00:21:31]>> What's mom's name?

[00:21:32]>> Melissa.

[00:21:33]>> Uh, Melissa.

[00:21:34]>> Melissa's going to jail for warrants and uh obstructing and resisting arrest. And David is about to go to work and he was hoping you could pick the girls up.

[00:21:47]>> Okay.

[00:21:49]Do do you know where they do you know they live here in Gentry?

[00:21:52]>> Yes.

[00:21:53]>> Okay. I don't know when he goes to work, but yeah, he was hoping he'd pick him up.

[00:21:58]>> Yeah, I can do that.

[00:21:59]>> Okay, I'll give you back to the girls.

[00:22:03]>> Yeah, I need his number for her so she can have That's fine. I'll do it for him. You good. I just need his phone number. Hey, sir. This is Officer Shay for Ginger Police Department. What's your phone number so I can give it to Melissa so she can have it when she's down there? 479.

[00:22:26]>> They're pretty tight.

[00:22:27]>> I know. That's why I'm I'm going to I'm not I'm not So, they're not built for comfort, but I want to make sure they don't lock up on you and get crazy tight on you. Okay. So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to I'm not taking them off.

[00:22:40]I'm just loosening them.

[00:22:43]Okay.

[00:22:46]>> Okay. So, that's that one.

[00:22:49]There's a double lock on this one.

[00:23:08]There you go.

[00:23:09]>> Oh, you're good. They're good.

[00:23:13]Do >> you mind pat her down? All right. She's going to pat you down. Make sure you don't have anything on you.

[00:23:20]>> Well, it was, but it was like it wasn't loud. Then take that left hand off.

[00:23:27]>> I just looked over and I saw it. I was like, "Hey." All right. I'm going to fix this cuff because it looks like it's a little janky. Okay.

[00:23:34]Is it this one?

[00:23:37]>> Which? Uh, okay.

[00:23:41]>> I'm going to take this one off.

[00:23:43]>> All right. Do not quick.

[00:23:45]>> All right. So, what's usually better is just to put your hands together like you're praying and then we'll go like this and then that way.

[00:23:55]Okay. Does that Does that feel better?

[00:23:58]>> Sorry. I'm sorry. It wasn't.

[00:24:02]>> Is that good?

[00:24:03]>> Yeah.

[00:24:04]>> Okay. All right. Go ahead and have seat back in the car.

[00:24:06]>> Is that Is that going to hurt?

[00:24:07]>> I Officer, I promise I Can you put him in the front? I won't >> I can't put him in the front. I'm not going to put him in the front.

[00:24:12]>> I don't know how I'm going to be able to sit down without falling.

[00:24:15]>> Okay, I can help you in if you want to sit down like sit straight back. There you go.

[00:24:22]Okay, there you go. Is that better?

[00:24:25]Okay.

[00:24:26]>> I'm not trying to see.

[00:24:28]No, I'm safe.

[00:24:43]>> Hey, he's going to be a home. That's going to be a homeless guy out of Decator. I've already ran. Unless he's got new warrants.

[00:24:49]>> She wants to leave these these here.

[00:24:52]All right.

[00:24:53]>> Who's transporting her?

[00:24:54]>> I am.

[00:24:55]>> I'd rather not. But >> I'd rather a female transporter.

[00:25:00]>> Okay. Well, >> so he's like, I don't He doesn't want me to transport her. He want female transporter. But >> he doesn't.

[00:25:10]>> Yeah. I just I just want you to be aware of him boyfriend.

[00:25:25]Everything's on.

[00:25:29]Officer Wolf receives a C detention authority was correctly identified. Post cuff care loosening handcuffs facilitating the call to the children's father was above the floor, but the compression from verbal refusal to ground takedown was steep and prior contact with the subject warranted handing physical engagement to a third officer. Officer Shea receives a B. The daughter interview was patient and non-leading. The plain English explanation of Terry authority to the male party was accurate into deescalating. The intent question about the throne vacuum was the sharpest legal move on scene, but asked before Miranda, and that timing is the single point keeping this out of a range. M's Blake receives a C minus. Refusing to exit her home was a lawful assertion of the Peyton threshold. But once officers lawfully directed her into the yard, continued refusal combined with pulling her arm away transformed a detention into a resisting situation. The legal cost of that elevation was a charge and a takedown she did not need to experience. The male party receives a C.

[00:26:26]His initial account omitted material facts, the throne vacuum, the broken glass that surfaced only when officers confronted him with his daughter's statements. Incomplete first accounts in a domestic context or a recognized red flag and his admitted conduct occurred in the presence of minor children. The Gentry Police Department receives a B minus. Two officer response body cameras, separation of parties, child welfare arrangements before transport.

[00:26:48]are all correct. The policy gap is prior contact recusal. An officer with prior subject history should not lead physical engagement on the same subject. That is a training issue, not an individual failure. Lesson one for officers. Verbal refusal is not physical resistance.

[00:27:04]Every additional second of deescalation before contact is a second of litigation risk removed. The eighth circuit has drawn this line repeatedly in qualified immunity analysis and departments that train to lose fewer cases. Lesson two for citizens. Asserting rights at the threshold is lawful, but physical withdrawal after lawful contact is not.

[00:27:23]The moment officers have authority to direct movement under Terry pulling away converts a detention into an arrest and adds a charge that did not exist a moment earlier. Lesson three for departments. Officers with prior subject contact should not lead physical engagement on the same subject. The appearance of personal entanglement is itself illegal exposure and a simple role swap on scene eliminates it at zero cost. A doorway is a constitutional line and what officers can ask across it has been litigated for decades. The questions raised here do not have easy answers, but they are worth asking.

[00:27:55]Thanks for watching.