Sovereign Citizen Tries To Out-Argue Judge — Bailiff SHUTS Him Down

Added: 2026-05-28

[00:00:04][music] [music] >> going to be Tyler Messina.

[00:00:20]What starts as a simple traffic hearing quickly turns into total chaos. Within minutes, the courtroom is filled with non-stop interruptions, arguments, and frustration. The defendant walks in believing he can challenge every part of the court process, from paperwork to legal procedure itself. But, courtrooms run on rules, timing, and order, and the judge realizes very quickly this hearing is going to be difficult. The defendant believes there are mistakes in the paperwork, issues with the suspension records, and problems with how the case was handled. But, instead of calmly explaining his points, he keeps interrupting and jumping from topic to topic. The judge gives him several chances to speak and explains his options clearly, but the hearing keeps getting more tense. By the end, things become so heated that the bailiff has to step in.

[00:01:12]What do you mean you're What do you mean you're appearing specially today? I'm appearing specially for this dimension.

[00:01:16]I was just letting you know that Let Let him speak. I was just letting you know I'm here appearing specially today and that also I would You didn't mention what case number you're on.

[00:01:25]This is 26 TRD 02043. Do you have more than one case number that you're involved with? Uh I asked and they said that this is the only one, but uh to to correct the record, uh I do believe that there's something going on that uh that's within this that we can talk about it when I get that first dimension.

[00:01:46]Well, you're going to end up having a seat at the table, a counsel table. Um the defendant charged with driving on FR suspension, driving without a valid operator's license, and improper display of license plates. We're scheduled for a trial to the court today, Mr. Messina.

[00:01:59]Um this uh Who's here on behalf of the state? Mr. Eger is on behalf of the state. Uh is the state uh Well, how do you want to proceed, Mr. Messina? Do you intend to have a trial? Do you want to change your plea? It doesn't look like they're going to be dismissing it. Uh well, I'd like to just get it uh solve it right now. I'd like to go ahead and solve the trial right now. Uh cuz uh well, the uh the officer's uh statement and the time and location of everything is completely contradic- dictory uh towards uh every different log he had. He had a cab log. He said it was 17 uh Well, before we get into the weeds on this thing, um you do intend to pursue a trial.

[00:02:45]Uh I No, I don't believe we need to take time out of the court's time and money for one. I think we can >> There are three things that are going to happen Well, four things that are going to happen today. One, we're going to have a trial, and the state's going to call its witness, and you're going to be able to cross-examine your accuser, call your own witnesses, testify on your own behalf. Number two, um they're going to dismiss it, which they're not going to do. Number three, you can change your plea from not guilty to guilty or no contest, in which case if I enter convictions, I'll impose sentence, and we'll resolve the matter today. Or four, you can ask for a continuance.

[00:03:14]Well, uh Here, I'll show you this for 1 second, please.

[00:03:19]Uh we can't do a continuance because this paper here it don't have your signature on it, but it was uh in the paperwork.

[00:03:26]Uh Is that the notice to It is a It is a I'll Can you show that to the bailiff?

[00:03:31]>> This here is a Give me 1 second. And also, here's the uh the evidence I was I was trying to get it before I was running a little late, but my guy here was trying to get this into the uh this uh video here of the Speedway.

[00:03:48]When we when we actually have the trial, Mr. Messina, then you can certainly testify as to your exhibits.

[00:03:54]>> though.

[00:03:54]>> Just cuz the uh the FRAS suspension will it was due to maybe some mistake. Maybe they had it in child support because my child support is paid automatically, right? So, there must have been a mistake down here. But, here's this right here. It has no signature on it and it's It's a It says judgment entry granted granted and then it says denied. It says, "Your request for a continuance is granted. No further continuances of your arraignment will be granted. Failure to appear uh for arraignment will result in a forfeiture of defendant's uh operator's license and warrant to defendant's arrest or both, whichever may apply to the defendant."

[00:04:35]>> Yeah, I'm looking at the document myself, Mr. Messina. And what that is is it's an entry granting your request for to continue your initial appearance.

[00:04:43]>> it says this.

[00:04:44]Uh your request is denied. Is that box checked?

[00:04:48]>> And then Mr. Messina, neither box is checked. That's not true.

[00:04:52]This this here May I see it? Yes, I do.

[00:04:53]It says neither box is checked and there's no signature from anybody on this whatsoever. But, there's a stamp that backdates the uh 26th. May I see it, please? Yes.

[00:05:04]And also, I got uh more for you.

[00:05:06]Well, hold on a minute. Let's do one thing at a time.

[00:05:09]>> Yes, sir. This is your copy that you got from my clerk when you submitted it. I have the entry that has my signature, a second file stamp on there after I granted your motion. And let's face it.

[00:05:20]We're wasting time here. Well, we'll hold on.

[00:05:22]>> want a trial, we're going to have a trial. Mr. Yager, did you need a This is where the hearing starts getting more intense. The judge clearly explains the four possible outcomes: trial, dismissal, plea change, or continuance. He's trying to help the defendant understand his options. But, instead of choosing one, the defendant starts arguing about paperwork and missing signatures. The judge explains that the defendant only has his copy, while the court keeps the official signed version. The defendant believes he found problems in the documents, but he keeps throwing out multiple arguments at once instead of focusing on one issue clearly. And you can already see the judge starting to lose patience because courtroom hearings aren't endless debates. I need to be heard. Did you need to ask for a continuance?

[00:06:09]You are for the moment, okay? If Mr. Messina would like to contest the charges, we would need to continue it in order to subpoena Officer Beach. Um this is I believe the first time that we've been here on the record um post his arraignment and then he did ask for a continuance per se um back in towards the end of April um in order to prepare his defense, but he didn't indicate for sure that he wanted to contest it. So we did not subpoena Officer Beach today. All right.

[00:06:34]So Mr. Messina, they're asking the court to continue this.

[00:06:37]Um >> [clears throat] >> do you have a position on that? Do you object or you okay with it? I object to it. On what basis? Um the basis I object to it is that like you said, we don't want to waste the court's time. So you know, I don't want to end this right now. We might as well you know I mean I don't want to continue this. I would like to end it now instead of continuing more of that same even more of wasting time, scoring money.

[00:06:57]I say that being that this mistake here because your record, right? I need to have the record too because I'm the person being charged uh cited with something. You know You can ask for a copy of the court's file when you go down to the clerk's office. The court's already granted court's already granted you two continuances and I think it's only fair that I grant this state.

[00:07:16]Can you stop talking over me?

[00:07:18]No, you're talking over me. I'm trying to tell you what's going to happen next.

[00:07:22]I've already granted you two continuances. It's only fair that I grant the state one at this time. I have your objection is noted for purposes of the record. We this is due process and I didn't have a fair trial. I have a right to due process and fair trial. You do and you're going to get your trial the next time we come back. I'm not going to speak to you. Can you confirm your address for me, please? I Can I talk, please? I asked you a question. What's your Can you confirm your address for me, please? Uh I I had a house fire. So, due to the house fire, I do not have an address right now.

[00:07:49]>> a mailing address? Uh I'm getting a PO box. Okay. You need to let us know >> box, but Okay. You need to let us know because the only way we have to notify you of future court dates is through the mail, okay?

[00:07:59]>> I left my phone number on the file that you have of my copy.

[00:08:02]My copy. I handed your copy back, so it's in your hand.

[00:08:06]Uh I just want All right.

[00:08:08]I I apologize that but You know, you're fine. I'm going to continue your bond as previously set as Rick Hixson's bond. Um unless the state demands discovery from you, you don't have to turn over anything before the trial, and you can certainly testify as to whatever exhibits you want that are relevant, okay? Okay. Can I speak, please?

[00:08:25]Can I be heard?

[00:08:27]Okay.

[00:08:28]Thank you.

[00:08:29]All right, so I have uh What I'm trying to get to is that I'm I want a fair trial or not a fair trial. This is my trial right here.

[00:08:39]It says it in this paperwork. It's scheduled for trial, you're right. And this is says it right here.

[00:08:44]This is There's no There's no uh trial after this. This is it. I'm supposed to be tried here. By that logic, Mr. Messina, then there should have not been no trial after you asked for the continuance of the trial the last time.

[00:08:57]>> the the trial. That was my first appearance. No. You've asked for a continuance of both your trial and your arraignment. We'll get you a copy of the court file so you can have all those records, but the court's going to go ahead and move on, and you may go to the bailiff, sir.

[00:09:11]But hold on. This is This right here is the Sorry. If you don't We're recording everything, Mr. Messina, and you'll have a This is the moment the judge fully takes control of the courtroom. He makes it clear that the hearing is over, and any disagreement can be handled later through the appeal process. The judge even reminds the defendant that everything is being recorded for review if he wants to appeal. But the defendant keeps trying to continue the argument, forcing the bailiff to step in. What makes this even more noticeable is how calm the courtroom becomes when the next defendant walks up. The second hearing moves quickly, respectfully, and without drama. That contrast says a lot about how important communication and behavior are in court. The right to appeal any decisions made by this court that are adverse to you to the Thinking County Court of Appeals, but for now, turn around and look. You've got a bunch of other people who have business before the court, and we've concluded your hearing for today.

[00:10:05]You've been heard, and we've concluded your hearing for today. You need to go with the bailiff. No, you may not. You need to go with the bailiff.

[00:10:10]>> All right.

[00:10:14]Well, hey. Now, Terry Clymer. Yes.

[00:10:18]Case number 26 TRD 1549.

[00:10:21]Mr. Clymer, come on up and have a seat.

[00:10:25]All right. Uh you're Mr. Clymer, correct?

[00:10:28]All right, we're scheduled for a trial today. I don't have a motion to to dismiss, and I don't have a change of plea form. Are you asking for another continuance? Yes, sir, to get valid. Um this is Ms. Yeager's case. Ms. Yeager, does the state have a position?

[00:10:42]>> We have no objection. He believes he can get uh his SR-22 situation taken care of by the time time we return.

[00:10:48]All right.

[00:10:49]Can you confirm your address for me, Mr. Clymer? Uh 112 Southern Fish Street.

[00:10:55]City and state?

[00:10:57]Uh Euclid, Ohio.

[00:11:02]All right. I'll go ahead and I'll continue it uh today, but this will be the second time we've continued it, so probably next time we either need to have a trial uh or a change of plea.

[00:11:09]Yes, sir. I didn't realize that was an option. Uh I think I should have probably listened better last time I was in here that I could get valid, and then we could maybe uh At this point, I'm sure that the Assistant Law Director has informed you their policy is dismissal on the first appearance after the arraignment. If a defendant asks for a continuance, and then is able to get valid, they won't dismiss it, but their position is that they'll ask the court not to impose any fine, just the court cost. Okay?

[00:11:33]All right. So, we were scheduled for What time were we set for? 10:30.

[00:11:42]Okay. I'll continue this I'll continue the bond as previously set, and we'll get you notice in the mail of your next court hearing. Do you have any other questions today? No, sir. All right.

[00:11:50]Tell you what. Have a seat where you were before. The bailiff will be with you in a moment. By the end of this hearing, one thing is clear.

[00:11:55]Courtroom procedure usually wins over emotion and non-stop arguing. The defendant believed there were problems with the paperwork in the process, but his constant interruptions made it difficult for the court to properly address his concerns. Meanwhile, the judge stayed focused on the same point.

[00:12:12]The defendant still has the right to trial, and any disagreement can be challenged later through appeal. The difference between this defendant and the second one was easy to see. Calm communication and direct answers made the second hearing much smoother.