Natural social borders - language, lifestyle, low status

[00:00:00]I wanted to create a video about two different communities that are separated from normal mainstream society and they do so pretty much naturally. There's no race laws. There's no ethnic lines being drawn. Um but they seem to be able to separate and live a parallel lives and live in a parallel state despite that. Uh I believe they use sort of natural borders or natural separation. Uh to me that's the Amish and that's the traditional Latin mass.

[00:00:37]Now of course these are different degrees of separation. The Amish are truly separated from modern mainstream society while Catholics who attend the traditional Latin mass are sort of in a halfway point. Um many people who attend the traditional Latin mass have normal jobs. They work 9 to fives. They live among us. Uh they can be quite urban or uh semi- urban. Um you might know some you don't even know. So I'm going to kind of go down the line and describe how they're able to create these kind of parallel societies using kind of natural means. That's language, lifestyle, and I said loneliness to kind of complete the the literation, but I'd say kind of low status, low prestige, and I'll explain that further down the line. So first is language. I obviously Amish speak Pennsylvania Dutch. They they they speak a particular dialect of German that well, you know, not a lot of people in America speak German these days. Um we we have a large German American population. Almost none of them speak German these days. Um it used to be up until World War I quite a commonly spoken language. Um, but only now the Amish have really retained that heritage and that is their primary language.

[00:01:53]That's the language of choice in within the home, within church services.

[00:01:58]And so, yes, they speak English with a I presume a heavy accent. I'm not really quite sure, but already there's a huge borderline uh between them and what they call the English uh the rest of us Americans who English is our primary language. So that or from the get separates them, makes them kind of impenetrable.

[00:02:23]Um, now the Latin mask, they they speak vernacular. You know, they if they're in America, they speak English. If they're in Latin America, they speak Spanish.

[00:02:31]Brazil, they speak Portuguese. They they speak the local language, but obviously their church services is primarily within Latin. That is the ecclesial language that they use. The homaly is in the vernacular. uh for those who might be confused like how why would you listen to a message in a different language you don't understand? Well, they actually the the Bible passages um are read in the vernacular and the homaly and the sermons in the vernacular but the services everything else the the lurggical part of the service is in Latin. Uh, and they also have just like their own vocabulary. They have their own kind of world, their own lexicon.

[00:03:10]And so when you talk to someone who attends a Latin mass, it's easy to get lost in conversation because they just they have their own vernacular, they have their own lexicon that they pull from that might be hard to follow. And so that already adds a degree of separation from even just mainstream Catholics.

[00:03:30]Uh, now lifestyle is a huge one obviously the Pennsylvania Dutch, the Amish. I mean, just the hard workers, a lot of manual labor, uh, you know, the women take care of the kids, the men build the sheds, build the homes and the barns. You're talking about a lifestyle that is very simple.

[00:03:55]Um, it's very poverty based. They don't own a lot of things. They don't own a lot of furniture. Uh obviously they they don't use a lot of modern technology only sparingly. It depends on what order they are. Um you know they are digitally separated from us. You you're not going to see Amish people on Facebook. You're not going to see Amish people on on Instagram, on LinkedIn or Snapchat. Um so they kind of fly underneath the radar. You know, it's interesting. I was talking to one guy who's very focused minded in Maine and he's like, you know, we're seeing all these Amish people come in and, you know, everyone has no no one has a problem with them. I mean, they're they're ostensibly this all white ethnic group coming in and it's everyone's like, "Oh, it's not cool." U but I I assume it's, you know, part of it is just like, yeah, they're just hard workers. They're agrarian.

[00:04:49]Uh they're not interested in politics.

[00:04:51]They're not going to run for office. Uh they're not gonna um they're pacifist.

[00:04:56]They're not going to really change your society whatsoever. They're so insular that they're kind of a curiosity more than anything. Now with the land mass is a little different like you know their religiosity makes them is very timeconuming. I mean the their mass services are very long. It's like hour and a half two hour long.

[00:05:18]You're expected to go to confession quite often preferably once a week. That's time consuming.

[00:05:26]um you're expected to pray every day. I mean, you're expected to um you know, follow rules of sexual morality. So, you know, they they are in modern life. They they have jobs. They're working 9 to5.

[00:05:39]Um they might live in your neighborhood, but they are living a religious lifestyle that is very disciplined. um looks much different than even those who just attend ma uh a mainstream Catholic mass once a week.

[00:05:55]You know, most Catholics don't really attend mass once a week and certainly don't really care much for confession these days, but that's not true for the uh people who are TLM. Um so you have a whole kind of lifestyle in place that just kind of keeps them in line and keeps them sort of separated.

[00:06:13]Um, but it's not as extreme say obviously at the Amish where it's like it's not it's not simply a religious lifestyle. They have that too. Uh, obviously they attend church services and whatnot, but but a whole [laughter] um kind of way of life that's that's quite different from the rest of us. And one one thing I I was thinking about was kind of low stat of status and prestige.

[00:06:40]I mean, people People move to white countries because white countries are prestigious. White people are associated with prestige and status. Moving into a white neighborhood is moving on up.

[00:06:53]Moving, you know, going to a white majority school or white majority college or, you know, you could go down the line. It's just kind of white culture, whether it be English, German, uh, Scandinavian, whatever the case may be, white American, it's considered, uh, prestigious a lot of times.

[00:07:12]But there's nothing prestigious about being Amish. Let's be honest. No one wants to be Amish. I don't think I I never heard of any such thing. Maybe to be born into being Amish, not joining it after the fact. Uh it's a lot of manual labor. It's it's poverty. It's simplicity. It's lack of technology, lack of internet, lack of TV, no Netflix.

[00:07:35]Um you don't see Asian parents trying to get their kids into speaking Pennsylvania Dutch. Pennsylvania Dutch is not a prestige language. Um, that's the thing with all these barriers to entry. It's like, okay, you have a separate language, but people learn different will learn a prestige language all the and they do it all the time.

[00:07:53]People learn English, they learn German and French because those are prestige languages. They learn Japanese.

[00:07:59]Um, people don't learn non-prestige languages for the most part unless they're just they have a great level of languages. A lot of people aren't people don't generally speak generally learn Hindi. It's not considered a prestige language. People aren't westerners aren't immigrating to uh you know the north of India. They're not moving to the Mahastra.

[00:08:22]Um but people work really hard and and devote a lot of resources to make sure their kids will learn English so they can have a better life. No one's doing that for Pennsylvania Dutch. That's not a better life. It's a It's a more laborious life. It's more simple, very religious, very pious life. I mentioned it's probably not a bad probably a pretty decent life in many ways, but it's not one that's considered desirable or prestigious or high status. Now, with Latin and the Latin mass, it's sort of interesting. It's it's sort of in that in between area where, you know, some of these Latin mass churches are very beautiful. Um there's one in Newton mass that's just I I forget the name. May St. Mar.

[00:09:06]Um, so many Catholic churches start St. Mary's. That's pretty uh you can guess that one and be right half the time. But it's just an amazingly beautiful church.

[00:09:16]Um, and they the service is amazingly beautiful and people dress to the nines.

[00:09:20]They dress in suits and ties and their Sunday best. They dress their kids in their Sunday best. like there's definitely a status game being played out here that I can see where well anyone want to join that um people of different ethnic or racial backgrounds or social backgrounds are going to want want to um merge into this kind of lifestyle.

[00:09:44]Um then yet again, you know, there's a bit of a bad boy element to TLM, which again it's that can be uh a good thing or a bad thing. It depends on who you are. um it's a little bit rebellious. The Catholic Churches sort of, as I said before, the authorities tolerate it, but don't ne necessarily are excited about the rise in the Latin mass. Uh and certainly with the recent SSPX excommunication, you know, I think for a lot of people, that's one that's going to be a little bit scary. That's a little bit beyond the pale. U it's one thing to be in an ambiguous position within the papacy.

[00:10:22]It's one thing it's another thing to be excommunicated altogether.

[00:10:27]That one was I don't know how they have received it. I don't know if they're now in a set of kind of territory where they believe that the the pope isn't the real pope essentially that the seat is empty.

[00:10:40]Um or that they claim they actually are Catholic. They just disagree with the current pope. I don't know how they're going to reconcile that theologically or doctrally.

[00:10:49]Um, but I imagine that there's being there's the there's being a little bit rebellious and a little bit uh, you know, bad boy uh, element and there then there's being excommunicated which will probably I think it's a step too far for a lot of them.

[00:11:06]So, it'll be curious to see. to but I do think if your goal is to separate to to really separate from society to maybe create a totally separate community or whatever the case may be I think that sort of prestige status element is big I mean the Ori folk assembly has several hoffs people go oh aren't you like afraid that Tifa is going to attack or whatever it's like our hoffs are in like bluecollar agricultural towns way outside of Main City. Like they are not um like we're we're not mainstream. We're not like really Yeah, we're not in your downtown. We're not in the capital city. It's like Antifa is not even operating in these areas in the first place. Um and so Yeah, I we're I don't I don't think we're considered like desirable or high status or prestigious. Uh and that again that creates a degree of separation of just like yeah, people don't people don't want to move into our neighborhood. People don't want want to join our organization. It's it's a little bit too off the beaten path and that that that it's a little bit too um much of a reputation hit that it naturally makes sure that you know it's a filter. Only people who who are truly of the same mind and spirit are going to come and want to join and and people who aren't will naturally just not be interested. So, I think those are important things when creating a separated parallel culture or society. Um, I think if if people are concerned about racial changes, demographic changes, and they want they're really concerned about maintaining their heritage, their ancestry, their culture, their their people's way of life. These are things that you're going to have to think about u in a strategic manner um if you want to play the long game and really create a separate society that that is that sort of coexists with mainstream society but quietly and peacefully and lawfully and all that stuff. So if if you find that interesting you know please please drop a comment. I know I have some Catholic commenters or followers. I'm curious to know what your thoughts. Please go ahead and drop a comment that you find it interesting. If you know anything about the Amish, let me know. Uh I just know what, you know, it's the vague stereotype. So if you want to dive deeper, please let me know. And I appreciate your time. As always, thank you for listening.