Carney's Alto Train to Nowhere: Landowners Fight Land Grab | Stand on Guard

Added: 2026-06-02

[00:00:00]We have economists saying that today's numbers are so nominal they could be forecasted away and revised away. So, aren't you jumping the gun a little bit calling this a full-blown recession, >> right? So, um I know that there's a lot of uh excuses being made for Mark Carney today.

[00:00:14]>> And I I'm not surprised. By the way, which outlet are you with?

[00:00:18]>> Is 2.6% economy growth excuse?

[00:00:25]>> Welcome back to an unusually late stand on guard. I'm your host, David Kraton.

[00:00:30]Well, spent a very interesting day and we'll be back talking about that in mere moments. But it was, shall we say, enlightening.

[00:00:40]Now I know what the current government is really up to. This is a huge land grab. And we'll be right back with more.

[00:00:52]The prime minister lied and his minions continue to >> Your home is your castle. We're calling on the government to introduce and immediately pass the stand on guard law, >> but we also need to resolve to resist.

[00:01:16]>> Okay, >> we'll do it live.

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[00:01:20]WE'LL DO IT LIVE. I CAN I'LL WRITE IT AND WE'LL DO IT LIVE.

[00:01:26]>> OKAY, we're doing it live. Not the same time as usual, but I spent the afternoon, much of the afternoon with the Carlton landos land owners association meeting and we were meeting in South Keys and I'm going to tell you what, you know, very very nice restaurant, the uh KS at the Keys, great place for for the group to meet and I was invited to go to hear the real story about what's happening with the Alto fast rail.

[00:02:04]What's really going on here? And I don't really know where to begin except this is another boondoggle.

[00:02:13]This is another pump and dump operation by the Carne government.

[00:02:18]There's a very good chance that this operation will never be finished. That the project will never be finished. And by the way, if you're not aware of what's going on, this is a rail link from Toronto to Ottawa to Montreal to Quebec City, you know, and as so many people agreed with me today and I said, "Who the hell is traveling to Quebec City?

[00:02:43]It's not an economic hub of Canada."

[00:02:47]Yeah, Toronto is. Ottawa certainly is.

[00:02:51]arguably even Montreal, although it's waning in in its influence.

[00:02:57]Oh, Chaos is awesome. Yeah, great place.

[00:03:00]We're going to go back. Really, really nice. Anyway, if you want to talk about economic hubs in Canada, well, Vancouver is one, Calgary is one, but I don't see any fast rail going from Calgary to Edmonton or Vancouver to Calgary or Vancouver to anywhere. I don't see any of this except once again the political atmosphere, the spectrum, the political dynamic is to appease Quebec except for those poor Quebecers who are going to be dispossessed of their land.

[00:03:43]And this is what makes this all so fascinating. We'll get into some of the people we talked to today. And I tell you, we talked to I'll talk to a lot of people who said, "I I I want I don't want to go on camera."

[00:03:55]And I said, "Why?" Well, because I I'm afraid of these people and the people who are sort of going around saying, "We're going to dispossess you. We're going to take away your house and property, and we want a non-disclosure agreement from you." And we'll be talking about that later. And I'm thinking, "A non-disclosure agreement?" and they're using drones to track the activity to monitor to survey these land owners and a lot of these people are in the Ottawa area. This is why there was a meeting in Ottawa today about this and it's absolutely frightening. And is there a connection between Alto highspeed rail and the proliferation of data collection centers from BC to Quebec? Is this all part of the same land grab? Are we creating an artificial need?

[00:04:53]It's very probable from the financial the fiscal information we heard today that this rail line will never be finished. It's going to cost too much and we'll get so little back. With a line like this from Toronto to Quebec City, it's not going to be profitable.

[00:05:17]And by the time it unfolds, we're talking 11 years minimum. They're not even going to get started for three years.

[00:05:32]So, we'll get into more of this. In fact, might have been four. But here's I want you to hear from the mayor of Prescott Russell.

[00:05:40]>> United counties of So yesterday, the United Counties of Prescott Russell uh made the decision by refusing to grant Alto access to county land and by refusing to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Major infrastructure projects must be transparent, accountable, and respectful of local communities from day one. Our residents deserve to know exactly what is being proposed, how it's going to affect farmland, property owners, local roads, uh the environment, and taxpayers before decisions are made behind closed doors, uh namely expropriations.

[00:06:18]An NDA would have limited open discussion with the public, and that's not how trust is built. Economic development does matter and transportation matters as well. But protecting our communities and rural character and the right of residents to be informed matters as well. This was not a vote against progress. It was a vote for transparency. It was a vote for local autonomy and responsible decision making. Uh the message yesterday was simple. If you want to work with our communities, you must do so openly and respectfully. Nation building should not be community dividing.

[00:07:00]>> No, it sure shouldn't be. But before I get in I I show you the video we we captured today, I'm going to show you some of these slides because this is incredible. You're wondering what are we talking about? Okay. Alto and we know of course that this was in the last budget prepared by finance finance minister Francois Philip Champang whose wife is a vice president and also the group that is putting together this high-speed rail. This is an artist rendering of this. And I learned today, this is fascinating, that highspeed rail, and it's common sense when you think about it, that highspeed rail has to be in a straight line because it it's going at 300 kilometers an hour and it cannot make hairpin turns or can't make any turns at all. It's got to go in a essentially a straight line.

[00:07:59]Well, if they could have picked a worse part of Canada for that, well, maybe a lion to Sue St. Marie would have been worse. But we're talking about a stretch of Canada that is not flat, that is not straight, that is densely populated, that is densely forestated, and they're building this, you know, this bullet, this rail bullet in a straight line. And it's going to require enormous amounts of land to be possessed by the federal government and people are going to lose their land. This is going to be in many cases prime agricultural land. And even if it's not, it's your backyard. You care if the government's coming for you and for your land. So this is what's going up here. And I predict this will be a huge success for friends of the Liberal Party or bureaucrats who are working for the Liberal government. I don't think we'll ever see this project come to fruition because it's simply going to be so financially ownorous with so little financial return that it's never going to happen. So what's really going on here?

[00:09:21]Well, I think much like the data collection centers that are really not required, we don't need to build that many data collection center to keep pace with China. We're already at pace with China. The United States has three times as many data collection centers as China.

[00:09:40]So, this is all myth mythological. And in fact, as we've learned recently, the technology is is soon going to outstrip even the need for these massive collection centers. So, what is it really about? It's about the government taking over land. It's about denial of property rights and a new way of expropriating private property for government use.

[00:10:10]That's what I've learned today.

[00:10:13]That's what I've learned today. And I I'm trying to pass this on because these people are really really worried about what's going on.

[00:10:25]Eastern Ontario Farmers Block at drone surveys for highspeed rail. Yeah, they've got drones surveying what?

[00:10:34]They're taking pictures of the landscape or are they surveying the farmers?

[00:10:41]I think probably the latter.

[00:10:44]It gets worse.

[00:10:46]Access to county property has been blocked. Alto's move to conduct drone surveys comes as elected officials in Eastern Ontario have decided to take a tougher stand against the project. The United Counties of Prescott and Russell passed a resolution Wednesday to block Alto's access to county property and bar confidential discussions with the Crown Corporation regarding the route that we just heard that from the mayor of Prescott Russell.

[00:11:13]So, here's been here's the response.

[00:11:17]People are saying no to Elto.

[00:11:20]Elto on France.

[00:11:23]People in Quebec as well as Ontario.

[00:11:26]Here in what used to be upper Canada, the Ottawa area, they're very upset about this. And this is the home of course of the Lannarch Land Owners Association that fought so successfully to save their land in the past. So this these people have a history of fighting for private property and I want to thank the members of this group and I'm I'm very reluctant to name anybody because I don't want you to get in trouble.

[00:12:01]But thank you for inviting me today because this was a lesson in once more government overreach.

[00:12:09]What happened at Universal Ostrich Farm?

[00:12:12]Is there a connection here? Okay, because I've said last year at this time I was fighting for an ostrich farm. I was fighting against the CFIA, Canadian Food Inspection Agency, and they're unlawful as far as we were concerned.

[00:12:25]Invasion, occupation, and desecration of a farm. What is this about? The same thing all over again. No ostriches this time. It's just that we're going to take your land. We're gonna dispossess you and we're going to rub your nose in it.

[00:12:46]And didn't they do that to Katie and Karen last year? Didn't they do that to Universal Austri? So, is there a a connection? Is this another phase in the war on agriculture and the war on private property?

[00:13:02]This is about a new definition of expropriation.

[00:13:07]This is Martin Imbo. I have to put my This is the guy in charge of Alto, chief executive officer.

[00:13:19]This is the guy running this show. Now, the question is, what the hell are they doing right now? They've got what, three to four years?

[00:13:29]Supposedly, they consult with the public, but they're not really consulting with the public. They're telling the public how things are going to be. This is what this is what's going on. They're not consulting. They're telling they're ordering the public around. And this of course is God an Marie. And who is that?

[00:13:51]Also proposal corruption and conflict of interest. That is the spouse of our finance minister who is a vice president with alto.

[00:14:06]Yes. And Marie go.

[00:14:09]Yes. They don't they don't take their husband's name in Quebec. So that's if there's any confusion there.

[00:14:17]Lovely lovely couple.

[00:14:21]how Alto plans to buy out property owners for its highspeed rail plants.

[00:14:28]Now, this is CBC.

[00:14:30]It's been doing sporadic reporting on this issue. I say sporadic because yeah, it's been sporadic. It's like they'll do a story, not follow up on it for weeks.

[00:14:43]But here's what CBC says. First, it will decide on the route, identify the properties it needs within that Titan C corridor, then send a formal letter to property owners. Also says it will assign a dedicated representative.

[00:14:56]Whoa, is that a guy in a black suit for each landowner going through the process? Then the negotiations begin.

[00:15:04]You can believe, you'd better believe those negotiations are pretty onesided, as everything is with the fence.

[00:15:15]How might bill C-15 affected? The federal government's bill C-15, which includes the highspeed rail act, makes amendments to the expropriation act that will apply to the Alto project. The bill received Royal Ascent March becoming law. Under it, the government will have no obligation to negotiate an amic amicable purchase. In other words, you don't have to agree agreement before adjouring acquiring sorry, acquiring land. The law also abolishes public hearings for property owners who want to contest expropriation in person.

[00:15:51]Wow.

[00:15:54]You don't have to like it. You don't have to agree with it. And you don't even have a right for public hearings about it.

[00:16:04]So what is this about?

[00:16:07]making it easier for the federal government, the liberal government, the Mark Carney government to steal your land. The bill also gives Alto a right of first refusal in the event of a sale of property. That means if someone with notice from Alto wants to sell their property, they have to send the purchase agreement to Alto first.

[00:16:33]The crown corporation will have 60 days to either refuse or buy the land. I'm sorry. Do are you reading this and saying this can't be Canada?

[00:16:43]But it is in BC. We have a we have a province that has been totally taken over by so-called First Nations chiefs.

[00:16:50]They run the government. Now, there's something called Aboriginal title that gives First Nations, indigenous, native, whatever you want to describe this special status as.

[00:17:03]complete real estate rights that nobody else in the province has.

[00:17:07]They can expropriate your land. They can take your land.

[00:17:12]Thanks to United Nations Declaration, the Rights of Indigenous People Act and Aberational Title. Now in Ontario through Alto and now in Quebec, the federal government can take away your land too.

[00:17:27]And this is where first it will decide on the route in there we go.

[00:17:32]This is horrendous.

[00:17:34]Here's CBC again. I can't believe CBC is reporting on this. It's like they don't get it. Critics worry about liberal plan to fasttrack highspeed rail. So this is going to put VIA out of business because if this at least in this part of the country, this potentially could could put VIA out of business and create a high-speed rail that very few people use at the same time because as we as we all know, VIA would not survive without massive government subsidies. That was the point of VIA because CN and CP said, "We don't want to haul passengers anymore. It's just not worth our while."

[00:18:21]And of course, at one time in Canada's history, in America's history, in world history, the railways were the staple, the backbone of travel.

[00:18:31]Everybody took the train for short trips or for long distance trips. You took the train if you were going you took the super chief if you were going from Chicago to Los Angeles.

[00:18:46]But VIA was created because CPNCN said it's not profitable to take passengers anymore. We just want to haul freight.

[00:18:55]So the federal government took over passenger traffic on the railways. And that's why VIA was created. It was an amalgamation of the CPR and the CNR passenger railway.

[00:19:13]This is why when you book a reservation, you can't book it with a CP or you can't book it with CN. You book it with VIA.

[00:19:23]And by the way, CP doesn't even do rail anymore.

[00:19:29]streamlining how it expropriates land in a way that some say could compromise property rights and lead to costly mistakes.

[00:19:39]Then this was all in the budget 2025 implementation act which of course Philip Franis Champagne was responsible for and his wife is very responsible for highspeed rail the implementation of highspeed rail in this country. Is there a conflict of interest there? Of course there is.

[00:20:00]Anybody with half a brain can tell you there's a huge conflict of interest going on here. But it's okay. This is the Carney government, the most corrupt government in the history of Canada.

[00:20:13]November 26, 2025, Transport Canada told CBC News, "The expropriation process had to be adopted because the geometric requirement of highspeed rail impose strict limits on how much the track can curve, leaving only a narrow range of technically viable land for the project." This is what I told you.

[00:20:33]People at my table today when I was talking to them said, "Well, this is this is the problem. This is going to be create this massive invasion of rural property by this rail that has to go straight. And no matter what's ahead of it, it's got to go through it. It won't go around it. Do you understand now? It cannot go around you. It's going to go through you.

[00:21:03]and you have no right to say no because oh this is a wonderful idea.

[00:21:10]The department says that despite the changes, land owners will be treated fairly. Well, I'm telling you after talking to people today, they're not being treated fairly. They're scared as hell. Individuals and organizations subject to expropriation will continue to receive fair compensation based on established principles blah blah blah blah blah including market value and other eligible costs. A Transport Canada spokesperson spokesperson said in an email, "Well, you can put a lot of credence into that."

[00:21:42]But the Montreal Economic Institute, a Quebec-based think tank, challenged that view, saying in a commentary posted on its website that safeguards are being thrown out, risking the livelihoods of farmers and other land owners. And by the way, my good friend Maxine Bernier, leader of the People's Party of Canada, was associated, I think, in fact, he headed that Montreal Economic Institute.

[00:22:06]So interesting hearings have been eliminated under section 10 par one of the expropriation act. The minister is required to order a hearing when someone serves them with an objection. The changes in the BIA which is currently in second reading in the House eliminates eliminates that requirement.

[00:22:35]Raymond says, "Hearings have value because they allow the federal government and the land owners the ability to re-examine the reasoning behind a purchase decision, a process that can often lead to planning changes.

[00:22:49]This is all about government doing it.

[00:22:52]Here's a rough map of how this thing is going to look. All right, here's a modest proposal.

[00:23:01]Why is it going all the way to Quebec City?

[00:23:08]There abs is absolutely no point in that. I heard so many people today say, "Well, who the hell is going to Quebec City?" Beautiful city, historic city, but we don't need highspeed rail to it.

[00:23:20]There's not that many people itching to go to Quebec City on a daily, weekly, monthly basis.

[00:23:29]And let's face it, the highways are just fine.

[00:23:33]So there's something else going on here.

[00:23:36]And once again, this is so eastern centric. This is so central Canadian centric. Nobody even thought about doing something like this in the west.

[00:23:46]Although given what's happening, maybe that's not such a bad thing.

[00:23:52]Although I can tell you if they wanted to build highspeed rail between Calgary and Edmonton, it would be pretty simple compared to this because you know what? It's a straight line. And I used to drive that.

[00:24:06]I used to work I used to live in Calgary and work in Edmonton for about four or five months. And I used to drive that route every Monday morning. I'd be up early driving that route. I could literally make it from Calgary to Edmonton in under three hours, like two and a half hours.

[00:24:22]The roads were so straight and you could literally see miles ahead of you to see if there was any reason to slow down.

[00:24:30]Let's put it that way.

[00:24:35]Here's all people saw in the budget.

[00:24:38]Budget 2025. Candle the strong page 89.

[00:24:42]Oh, there it is. There's a little demarcation here. That's where the railway is going to be.

[00:24:51]Is that the best they can do?

[00:24:54]Apparently.

[00:24:56]So, is there some secrecy going on here?

[00:25:00]Also, highspeed rail, Canada's first highspeed railway, spanning approximately 1,000 kilometers from Toronto to Quebec City and reaching speeds of up to 300 kilometers an hour to cut travel times in half and connect close to half of Canada's population.

[00:25:18]What? To Quebec City?

[00:25:20]That's very deceptive.

[00:25:22]Half of Canada's population isn't going to Quebec City, but this is what this BS government talking point wants you to believe or from the budget. This is a project that could create 51,000 jobs could might during construction and inject up to 35 billion into our GDP with a target of 25 million tons in emission savings.

[00:25:47]What a pile of crap this is. In fact, this is going to be so cost prohibitive the project will never ever be completed and there is not going to be and exactly what about the first nations?

[00:26:08]Are they not going to object to this?

[00:26:11]Are the first nations building it? No.

[00:26:16]anymore.

[00:26:20]Everything is a scam or a scheme and that's exactly it. So here they've got this all figured out. But once again, you can have a look at these the calibration here up to 20 2030.

[00:26:41]It won't be done.

[00:26:44]They're not even going to start building for three years.

[00:26:48]They're not even going to begin the project for three years. And it will not be done for at least a decade, probably 11 or 12 years if they actually if they actually get around to building it, finishing it. You know what this is going to be? I heard this very often today.

[00:27:08]You know how they call Mirabel a white elephant? In fact, I used to joke Mirabel is French for white elephant. It was a completely unnecessary airport because Montreal was shrinking in size, not growing. It did not need another massive airport. It did. It was not a two airport city like New York.

[00:27:28]No, but they built it anyway. And nobody flies into Marbel. It was a white elephant. Completely redundant.

[00:27:39]Completely unnecessary.

[00:27:44]And that's what happened here.

[00:27:54]The budget 2025, the government proposes to introduce legislation to accelerate the development of all to highspeed rail. Now, as we'll discover later in this broadcast, uh, Ottawa area MP, Conservative Ottawa MP Scott Reed has done tremendous research on this and basically concludes that this is not just a white elephant. It's a project that will never be completed because it's so cost prohibitive and it it's not ever going to get the travelers it requires to stay viable.

[00:28:34]So once again, what is this all about?

[00:28:36]Are they serious about this? No, they're ser what they are serious about is taking away your land and everything in the budget from Canada strong suggests don't worry folks don't worry this is not going to be a problem just relax the measure is not expected to have significant direct impacts on particular groups indigenous communities and other under reppresented Ed groups are being engaged to inform the design of the Alto highspeed rail project and develop their capacity and readiness to economically participate in the project its design and construction.

[00:29:25]It should be the project's design and there's actually a typo in in the budget. Just noticed it here. So, that is the government line and I'm I'm here to tell you it's absolute nonsense. So, let's watch some of the clips from today's meeting in Ottawa South at the KS on Keys. Great restaurant. And no, they've not paying me to say that. I really I can't wait to go back and have to try some of their pizza the next time. But here's here's a look at the crowd.

[00:30:24]Now, we had we had a couple folks there today In fact, we had quite a few. It was like a memory lane for me uh talking to talking to some of these folks, but one of them, of course, was a candidate for mayor of Ottawa, Alex Lawson, was there. And Alex had a lot to say.

[00:30:48]>> It was I was talking with Kavanaaugh.

[00:30:50]They wanted to be able to bring their trucks down a certain road to, you know, fewer kilometers. Yeah.

[00:30:55]>> Less waste, get them off Stitsville, Maine. Um, so we we looked into the road condition to see if it could be added to the truck route and the road condition was protected under an NDA.

[00:31:09]What is like how could there possibly be a non-disclosure agreement for the condition of a road? And we're hearing more and more about this. The transparency just doesn't exist. It was just a council recently uh clerk Kelly put forward a motion to have a public facing directory of you know city staff.

[00:31:30]>> How is that not something we already had?

[00:31:32]>> A hidden agenda exists to the exact extent that no disclosure exists. Not yet.

[00:31:38]>> We should talk about names, not just they, >> okay?

[00:31:42]>> Yeah. I mean, I don't want to I'm not going to get into allegations of corruption, >> but I'm I'm here to hear you, >> but you know, I really hope that that's not the case, but So yes, Alex was there and he was he was asked a question about non-disclosure agreements and people have been talking about these but can you believe this process is being ruled by non-disclosure agreements and let's let's have a look at his answer here.

[00:32:31]>> Yeah. And then I was reading the budget 2025 all the references to Alto in it and you were just talking about uh NDAs very strange NDAs. So apparently the Alto rail line is imposing NDAs on the >> Ottawa Ottawa presumably all the towns.

[00:32:53]So they're not allowed to ask questions unless they and talk to them unless they sign this non-disclosure agreement which I find is outrageous.

[00:33:02]>> And then the second part of it is within 2025 I was going through and thinking through the references that are related to the expropriation of property which are within the budget.

[00:33:15]So you as a candidate and potential future mayor, would you challenge this NDA policy of the alto and call for a public consultation? Challenge, you know, that we could get a public consultation for the people of Ottawa and area to find out what the plans are with Alto because they're saying they're not going to start for four years. I don't know what they're doing. There's no consultation. So, you know, to publicly challenge for a consultation, which is should be the right of all Canadian citizens and to challenge the polic the the NDA policy that there that they won't allow the mayors and the counselors to talk about it if they talk with Alto. It's just outrageous. So, would you challenge this as a candidate and what would you do as mayor?

[00:34:10]>> Yeah, the NDA surrounding Alto. I think I learned about this about a week ago.

[00:34:15]It I can't fathom how something like that is acceptable. And as soon as I I leave, I'm going to get we'll see what information we can pull with access to information requests. We've got some people on the team to do the and dig in as deep as they can and we'll see what we can find out about this because yeah I I don't think we need and you know if we're going to if we're going to have it it's it can't be something that's being done to us. We need to be involved in that conversation.

[00:34:49]So, not a bad answer, but clearly these NDAs are raising alarms, raising red flags.

[00:35:03]Why are people being forced to sign non-disclosure agreements over their property if the government says it's going to be a a seamless process and it's going to be amicable?

[00:35:17]Except it's not.

[00:35:19]They're publicly saying one thing, they are legislating another. That's the point what we tried to show you with the slides. Publicly, this is a an open process. This is an open conversation, legislatively, what they're doing behind the scenes, because nobody's paying attention to this.

[00:35:40]It was in the budget, but very few people paid attention until we learned that the finance minister's wife was working for Alto. So, was there conflict of interest? Obviously, any idiot could tell you that. And that was a bit of a scandal, but not for the ethics commissioner. What can I do? You know, I can't punish them. So, let we'll just let it go on. The problem with Canada right now is that we have no ethics in government and our our morality and our legality is so loose that government ministers can get away with anything.

[00:36:22]Why is that? And I worked on Parliament Hill for a few years, five or six years. So I think I know a little bit about the culture there. I think the the reason is there was a an assumption at one time an assertation a belief that people serving in government whether they liberal conservative and and I don't know about the NDP but whether they're liberal or conservative they had a certain ethical standard that they wouldn't go beyond. Yeah, maybe there was a bit of cheating here and a bit of cheating there.

[00:37:03]Maybe there was a little unethical activity going on. But gross misuse of office, gross corruption, this kind of conflict of interest, a prime minister with 103 different conflicts of interest. Well, that could never happen in Canada because our our public servants are all basically good people and our politicians are all basically dedicated to Canada and have ethical standards.

[00:37:36]That's all out the door right now.

[00:37:41]And so this is why I am going to keep the heat on about this Alto project because I believe it's intricately and intimately related to the data collection centers which we don't need which we don't want and which are dispossessing once again whom rural Canadians and farmers.

[00:38:04]It's the war on agriculture and the war on private property and the new definition of how expropriation of private property is somehow okay.

[00:38:18]Now, here's the questions. And no, I'm not I I wasn't finished yet. I got I've got some more. Here's some questions to the Carne government. Is this new process for major projects to take homes and farms away from people? One is Alto and Carney government is Alto and the Carne government proceeding with a project like this that will dispossess people of property through expota expropriation without a responsible public town hall consultation.

[00:38:50]You plan to do this without even a town hall meeting even if a dozen people show up. This is uncanadian.

[00:39:01]Is Alto in the Carney government demanding non-disclosure agreements on mayors and counselors who are trying to find out what Alto is doing and where the route is going? This is outrageous.

[00:39:13]Number three is Alto and the Carney government proceeding with a project like this without a responsible environmental assessment. This is so funny, so ironic.

[00:39:26]This is wrong and against Canadian environmental normal process and expectations. Here's the Carne government so concerned about oil in Alberta, meeting their stupid expectations, putting carbon tax on Alberta oil, demanding that Alberta not create more greenhouse gases. So what's happened? We have been well the government's tried to brainwash us into thinking carbon is pollution but everything else is okay as long as Mark Carney and the liberal government makes money off of it and that's what's happened. Number four, question number four is Alto and Carney should be our Alto and Carney government not publicly sharing preferably with town hall meetings and providing to OP their drone survey plans complying with normal public safety and courtesy rules. So they are not harassing the community, livestock, pets with unsafe drone operation. This is happening according to local reports. In other words, they're sending their drones after people and they don't give a damn whether they're raising the dead in that community.

[00:40:51]They don't care if they're scaring the hell out of Aunt May or your grandmother or your cat or your dog or anybody else.

[00:41:00]And they're not even letting you know what's going on. So, I I want to play a little bit of this is one of the greatest MPPPs in the Ottawa Valley, Jim Clair. And I knew uh the last time I saw Jim, I was in Toronto. I was working for a think tank with my good friend Joseph Benamy.

[00:41:24]And we were going to go to a barn dance at Jim's house with his good wife Janet.

[00:41:31]and I stepped on a nail in my in my driveway, a rusty nail. And I couldn't remember if I had a tetanus shot. And I had to go to the hospital and get a tetanus shot. And I went to emergency.

[00:41:43]The time I got out, it was late. But that I remembered that with with Jim today. I said, Jim, the last time we got together where we're going to get together was in we were in Toronto and you invited me to your barn dance and I couldn't make it because I had to go get a tetan shot.

[00:42:00]Anyway, so good to seeing Jim again. One of the great MPPPs, one of the most principled MPPPs in the Ottawa area and he's behind this protest 100%.

[00:42:15]>> Some of you were there.

[00:42:17]>> I was going to read it because I haven't tried to memorize it >> like that.

[00:42:25]So, there's a Scott Reed speech and I'm going to read it because I didn't memorize it. There's an awful lot of great data in it. I apologize to those of you that are hearing it for the second time, but I read it this morning.

[00:42:36]>> Now, this is Scott Reid, member of Parliament for for the Ottawa area.

[00:42:45]And Jim is reading a speech here. And I learned a lot the second time around because usually we do. So, here we go.

[00:42:52]It's going to take a little time, but I think it's well worth listening to.

[00:42:55]Scott wrote a great speech and he gave this at Castleman where there was a hundred very angry French Canadian people and it was wonderful to see because the train's coming through their farms.

[00:43:08]>> So this is by Scott Reed. The moral case against Alto is that it will split communities along a thousand kous thousand kilometer corridor with an impenetrable band of concrete and steel.

[00:43:21]that the ruthless bureaucrats and well-connected capitalists will expropriate thousands of properties along the route.

[00:43:27]>> That this will be done under special rules that were expressly redesigned to allow this strip this to strip away the rights of property owners along the route.

[00:43:37]>> That's where they changed the expropriation laws where there's no longer a need for consultation.

[00:43:42]>> You can appeal to a court where you won't be able to afford to have it, of course, because and you'll be waiting a long time to get there.

[00:43:50]>> That's wrong.

[00:43:51]that all this is being done in order to make a trivial reduction to the inner city travel times for urban elites. The moral case in short is that alto is a caricature of the kind of statebacked 19th century robber baron capitalism that made Karl Marx into a communist and that provided Charles Dickens with the settings for his novels and exploit of exploitation and despair. But the moral case won't be what stops Alto. What will stop Alto perhaps even before the damage is done is the the financial case. That is the case against Alto as an investment. Good.

[00:44:33]>> There are 40 million Canadians in this country who are in effect being asked to invest twice in this project. first as the bond holders who will finance the construction of the rail line in the years prior to its projected completion in 2037 and second as the shareholders who will own the highspeed trains after that date. If we can show Canadians just how bad the business case is, that is, if we can show Canadians just how much of their own wealth the government is going to spend on this project, then I think they'll be I think they'll demand that the Liberal government terminate this project or else they'll cast their votes for someone else in the next election.

[00:45:22]I'm I'm not going to show the entire clip there. That's about a 20 go out to everybody. I disagree with one thing, Scott Reid. And I respectfully disagree with you on this, Scott. And I've known you for quite some time.

[00:45:42]The moral objections to this bill are just as strong, if not stronger, than the fiscal objections to this bill. And for the Conservative government, or sorry, the Conservative opposition Whoops.

[00:45:56]to suggest that private property rights are not more important than just fiscal overreach or fiscal irresponsibility from this government is to me an indication that how crazy things have become.

[00:46:18]Absolutely crazy. So, I'll be back in a minute here with more. Heat. Heat.

[00:47:12]Ah, who cares?

[00:47:28]Yeah. And please have a look at the merchandise. I think we should get some No Alto merchandise as well because it's uh it's I think it's going to be popular. I'm going to keep up this campaign uh people because and there's a there's a rally on the hill on June the 10th which will be I'll I'll be there and in fact I'm going to I'm going to show the uh well see I can do this here now if I could I could show you that.

[00:47:57]But anyway, we are going to be at the rally in Parliament Hill on June the 10th. I'll have more information about that tomorrow. But here is what I found really incredible.

[00:48:10]And once again, please like the station.

[00:48:13]I'm being I'm being absolutely destroyed right now by algorithms. So, please like and subscribe if you haven't done so.

[00:48:28]It's it's really appreciated and and thank you for doing that. But wanted to show you what I thought was perhaps the most incredible revelation from today, which is what do where do you think this pl this these trains are going to arrive at? I never I never even thought about this until today. Okay, we're going to have high-speed rail from Toronto to Ottawa to Montreal to Quebec City. Where are these trains going to leap from?

[00:49:07]They can't go to the existing station because the rail isn't proper. The, you know, it's not the right rail gauge and it's not straight enough.

[00:49:20]So, they have to go to a different station, too.

[00:49:24]So, listen to this. It's not. It's and it's going to impact all of the stations on this route, including Toronto. But here's what's going to happen to Ottawa.

[00:49:36]And this is Vlad Tepee's uh one of the best independent cameramen in Ottawa and he has been at so many events that I have been. God bless you for your work.

[00:49:50]>> Already does because they had they already increased the radius of the tracks. They already changed the pitch of the bridges so that it could be as fast as possible. So that's already been done. It's not >> necessary.

[00:50:01]>> Second, he said, am I at three minutes already?

[00:50:05]>> No, no, no, no, no, no.

[00:50:06]>> Secondly, he said that VIA rail has both passengers and cargo. This new system will only have passengers. So you can already see what's going to happen in terms of the finances there. There's going to be it's not it's going to be ruinous for V rail because they'll lose all the passenger >> but there may not actually be much of a gain in time not just because of that but because they can't use any of the same equipment >> right so they're they're starting this thing Ottawa to Montreal they're using the old train station which is now the Senate building which is a train station again the amount of destruction for downtown he said to make the train station in Ottawa happen is catastrophic we're talking about massive buildings coming. It's nuts what he said they're going to have to do to Ottawa downtown to make that into the train station. And he said >> that they won't be able to use the train station that exists now in Montreal.

[00:50:56]>> Does the word Mirabel mean anything to anybody?

[00:50:59]>> So And of course, we have a couple more things to show you here.

[00:51:25]And something that my government is going to do is to use all of the powers of the federal government, including the emergency powers of the federal government to accelerate the major projects that we need in order to build this economy >> and take ON THE AMERICANS.

[00:51:45]I GOT TO say I think we had one more thing to show you here.

[00:51:59]>> There's an authoritarian streak more broadly running through this government as there was through the government before it as there was through the government before the before that. It's common theme liberal or conservative is uh abusing parliament running rough shot over individual rates. In this case, we've got a a government that has been passing omnibous bill after om onous bill, depriving refugees of the right to an independent hearing. Uh opening the way to warrantless access to subscriber information. So, this is of a piece with that. Uh and the the long and the short of it is more power for the powers that be and less power for the average citiz.

[00:52:34]>> So, is Mark Carney an authoritarian?

[00:52:36]Yes, I think so. I think definitely Mark Carney is an authoritarian and he proves that more and more every day and that's I think what we're trying to show with this with this power shift what he's trying to do with Alto what he's trying to do with the data collection centers what he's trying to do with this new definition of expropriation of property this is very very dangerous for Canada and and we're going to keep on this file and we're going to keep fighting on this file just like we are in the data collection centers and believe me this is is we are we are not going to give in to this and we're going to support these people who are having their property taken away who are being dispossessed and this cannot stand. This cannot stand.

[00:53:27]So thank you for watching today. God bless you. God God speed to all the work you do and thank you for inviting me to this meeting today. It was very worthwhile.

[00:53:38]Bye for now.

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[00:54:09]I'm going to keep fighting for justice and truth. And I am damn determined to resist this carney government in any way possible as it encroaches upon our individual freedom. And it will continue to do that. Mark my words.

[00:54:28]I'll be back again tomorrow, same time, same place, 10:00 a.m. This has been David Kraton broadcasting live from our nation's capital in Ottawa. Thank you for watching. We'll see you again tomorrow.