This video examines how Reform UK's political activities demonstrate systemic corruption and dysfunction, including Nigel Farage's undisclosed £5 million crypto donation, the collapse of Worcester County Council's Reform administration due to internal infighting and coalition failures, and the party's promotion of controversial figures like a gay porn star as a councillor. The hosts argue that Reform UK's anti-establishment rhetoric contradicts their actual corrupt practices, creating a dangerous precedent where political leaders can accept massive undisclosed donations while maintaining public trust through populist messaging.
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Crypto-Backed Porn Stars From Mars? | ReformWatch UK with Ed KimberleyAjouté :
Welcome, welcome to Reform Watch UK with me Graeme Hughes and Ed Kimberly who is a Labour counselor from Worcester in Worcester. That's is that close to Worersha? Is that near there?
>> Yeah, it's geographically approximate.
Yeah.
>> Oh, that's good. That's good. Who we got in the chat? We got blah blah CW in the chat. We've got SG aka SG, which I love.
We've got uh Diz is in there. We've got Billy Kershaw as well as Saz. Listen, if you want to join in the chat and have ask uh Ed questions, I guess you probably ask me all the questions you ever want to ask me. You want to ask Ed some questions, all you need to do is hit the subscribe button and wait for about a minute and then you'll be allowed in entry. You'll the VIP entry.
Yeah, the the the velvet rope will be torn aunder.
>> And let me just say if you have no idea what's going on, that means you've been paying attention.
>> Exactly. Exactly. We've got Wake Up and Smell All the Rosemies is in there as well. And El McFersonsome.
Yeah, L. Love the new neighbor. I love that name.
>> We've also got Chris C as well who's just joined us. And one Angry Pagan and Miss Paul Thomas. Yay. Gang's here tonight. So yeah, it's been a mad week.
Where do we start? Where do we UFOs, porn stars, uh fry 50 million fucking crypto grift? Where do we start?
>> I feel like I feel like we'd be remiss if we don't touch on the f on that the crypto millions. Like I think that's just that that's the story that's going to get buried if we're not super careful. And it's like we we've got to at least mention the fact like it's mad that we've got a serious UK politician taking raking in that kind of money on that kind of scale. and the and just like if if Kier Starmer took 500 quid from Christopher Harborn, it would be that it would just be headline news for every single day.
>> And and not only did that, but changed the Labour manifesto to include allowing like taking all the guard rails off cryptocurrency.
>> Yeah. I mean, have you seen >> his money crypto? Oh, okay.
>> Yeah. And I mean, have you seen the conspiracy theories around Palunteer?
It's like Labour's getting a hard time over that. And you're talking about Oh, good golly. It's like the scale of what Nigel is doing is just blows every other kind of corruption out of the water.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Completely.
>> He's like walking around just like sniffing at everyone else going amateurs. What did you get, Kia? A pair of tickets to the footy. And your team lost.
I got5 million pounds. I 20 semi- detached houses up here in the north. 20 houses. There you go, mate. I have 20 houses. Oh, cheers. There's 20 houses.
The thing that really the thing that's really scary about all of that as well is like if you allow that scale of donations to British politicians, you end up really quickly replicating what goes on in America where they've got vast amounts of money slloshing around the system. That is how you get primary selections where the only candidates are people who've been bought and paid for by large corporations and you basically get two groups of corporate candidates yelling at each other and no, you know, ordinary people don't get a look at.
>> It's crazy, isn't it? and and he changed his tune. He said he needed it for security. Now he's saying it was a gift for doing so well with Brexit, >> but why did he not? And he he got a gift off um a gift, sorry, off um easy mistake to make. Uh off off Gorgeous George, posh George, right, for 10 the criminal the criminal he hangs out with.
um the posh criminal £10,000 and and he declared that >> he declared that gift but he didn't declare the5 million like what is >> I mean Graeme I I think you need to I think we got to keep this in perspective like you know it's it's completely fine to take 5 million quid and not tell anybody and to change your manifesto in ways that perfectly ma match up with the interests of the person who gave you that money. That's normal. That's fine.
Stop worrying, please.
>> Yeah.
>> I I We'd be remiss if we didn't mention this.
>> No, we And and like he's trying to frame it like it's it it wasn't political, but it he he he got it. He said, "I'm not going to run for office." And then he was given 5 million and then he ran for office.
>> Yeah. I >> help me help me draw join the dots in that one. It's it's very complicated.
It's very complicated. I remember I remember when was being given a he a hard time over receiving a tie from Lord Ali and a pair of glasses.
>> He's a pair of glasses.
>> He is a lord. He's already got every >> Yeah. Yeah. It's like this guy's already got he's already in the House of Lords.
What do you want? Like he's he's got nothing to gain from this. He's got no personal vested interest in this. He's just giving the prime minister a tie.
But no, apparently that's the biggest scandal that we should all be worried about.
>> Huge. Huge. And I mean, what what what's your what's I mean, you get a lot of grief, don't you, off the reef fuckers.
I mean, how are they responding to this?
Have you got anyone saying, "Oh, actually, yeah, I think you're right. He is he is a grifter." Um well there's a funny thing with the I the thing about the reform lot and I'm going to say this really carefully uh because I I see cult personality behavior happening and it's happening on both the right and the left of politics right now more so on the right but to a lesser extent on the left as well where you've got populist leaders who can do no wrong um and don't don't have to answer hard questions and I I think that's deeply deeply unhealthy and you get people who become more entrenched the more you point out stuff to them, the more entrenched they get that actually no, their guy is right.
Even even if you can see like Nigel Farage could walk out of a room with a bloody knife in hand and a dead body in the frame behind him and say, "Yeah, I have no idea what just happened." And there are hundreds of people who would say, "Oh, no, no issue. Don't see the problem here. Don't suspect it." Yeah, >> and that is the challenge like you know when you're talking about people who are deep within the reform cabal here in Worersha and we'll get on to this I'm sure a little bit later on but we've had reform counselors who have quit the party um in protest over things they've done and it's basically been because they believed in the reform UK manifesto they believed the lies and they were going to get such a shock well this is it I mean I got a few chats to go to but we should mention this if they did actually form a government that'd last two weeks because Nigel Farage doesn't GIVE A FUCK. HE'LL PUT HIS FEET up and just be counting his money. He was not going to read any policy papers. HE'S NOT GOING TO DRAFT ANY legislation and all these true believers are going to go, "What now, Nigel? What now?" And he's just going to go, "Fuck off. I mean, I'm I'm I'm, you know, >> if they lose if they lose parliamentary seats at the same rate that they've been losing council seats, which is about 10% over the last year, they would lose their majority in a year or two. Like what's the point in voting reform?
You're not going to keep them for 5 minutes.
>> Yeah. Well, it's the ultimate protest vote, isn't it? Um Sarah Davis, thank you so much for the two pound super chat. Sorry about missing this morning.
No, NOTHING TO NOTHING TO APOLOGIZE for Sarah that that you know that thank you for the super chat, but you're always welcome and you don't need to you don't need to give super chats. It's fine.
It's fine. It's good. Just we just we just like having you here. We just like having you here. Spelance uh two pound for Ed security. Wink wink. You got two quid coming to you, mate. put that in the post. I put a first class stamp for 182 on it.
>> Give you the difference.
>> And then we've got Miss Paula Thomas, thank you very much for the£5 super chat. Cryptocurrency attempts to privatize currency issuing. Currency issuing without taxation is inflationary and that is bad. Yeah. Everything about crypto is bad. I mean I mean why would you why would you want to Everything about crypto every problem it's claiming to solve has already been solved. It's untraceable. It's like, yeah, so are cash in hand payments. That's one of the major problems with them.
>> But I mean, it's also given us the manosphere. It's also given us Trump.
It's also given us Joe Rogan. It's also given us all this shite. What What good thing has come from crypto compan?
I I think the problem is that the satisfaction the shardan freder of that is kind of outweighed by the fact that there are a handful of much worse people who have made massive bank.
>> Oh, they make killings. Well, they reckon the way to make money out of cryptocurrency is to make videos about how to make money out of cryptocurrency.
Don't put any of your own money in it because it's too risky. In fact, Bitcoin's lost it half its value since October last year. So, if you bought 100 quid's worth last year, it's now worth 50 quid. Look, it's it's the the the when a scam has metastasized sufficiently, the ultimate the terminal stage of scamry is that you get how-to videos on YouTube trying to teach you how to do that particular scan.
>> Yes. Yeah. True. True. But this is funny as well talking about sort of, you know, cryptocurrency stuff. This is this is from a man uh Farage who said that he uh famously said, "I don't do computers."
And now he's saying that Britain should become a crypto hub. Crypto is the future. Blockchain revolution. We want We want crypto in the Bank of England.
>> AI powered crypto in the Bank of England. What could possibly go wrong?
>> Um, do you want the list?
>> Why did we Why did we leave the gold standard dead?
>> Um, why did we leave the gold standard?
I mean, that's a that's a much more complicated question.
>> No, it's not. There's one answer for that. It's because we couldn't control the price of gold. One of the big problems we've got in the world at the moment is we can't control the price of oil or the price of gas or the price of coal to be honest with you.
>> Yeah.
>> And we can't control the price of crypto. We cannot. It's in it's it's a force beyond our control. Why would we bring it in the house? Why would we invite it in like a fucking vampire?
>> I have to ask you a question.
>> Please take my blood. I don't want it.
>> I have to give you I have to put the question to you, Graeme. If the the the point one of the things that people who are into crypto will point out is that it's very easy to print new currency.
Well, cryptocurrency is by definition digital. If anything, it is easier to print more of it. And you don't know who's in charge of doing so.
>> Well, the guy who set up bit Bitcoin, we still don't know who it is. We don't know who it is. And he may have a backdoor and when it's worth $1.35 trillion, just go, I'll have all that.
Put it all into his own wallet. We don't know.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, >> we don't know how it works.
Everyone's trusting this guy that they don't know, has never met, who's completely anonymous with their money.
Like I mean, oh fucking what?
>> There is something very very pointed though in the fact that and and I think this this sort of loops around to reform UK. Like they are the ultimate party for people who don't trust politics. And yet they are the griiest of the grifty, the scammiest of the scammy, the conniest of econy, you know. They they they they are exploiting lowrust politics while being the worst charlatans imaginable. And it's kind of it can be really quite frustrating when you're talking to people who are putting their trust, their last scraps of trust into the care of people that you know are grifting them.
>> Yeah. Well, I I you know, um buy me a coffee.com, >> they they decided that they're gonna they sent me an email last week saying we now accept cryptocurrency. So I wrote back to them saying it's all right. You know, none of the people who watch my stuff are criminals, fraudsters, gobshites, uh te tech bros. Uh so uh yeah, I'll be shutting down my account with you. So I've shut it down because I was like not you know, I'm sorry. And I know I know you can do it on PayPal, can't You can do crypto through PayPal now, but when that starts coming in to to proper banking, real banking, >> it's got to be a bit of a worry.
>> Yeah, that's not cool.
>> Yeah. Um and uh what what what's um what what does what is saying? Why does Frogface want Superman's dog in the Bank of England? Crypto joke there. Very good. I like it. I like it. Um I'm hoping that crypto is only scary because I don't understand it. No, it's not.
Honestly, it's not that complicated.
It's just that they like to pretend it's more complicated than it actually is.
You know, people who are really into like, I don't know, horse racing or something. They like to make out. It's it's you just put a bet on a horse that you think is going to win and you look at it form, >> that's it.
>> And the better it form is, the shorter your odds going to be.
>> It's it's like if someone was talking about paper money and you led with your explanation by talking about the holographic imprint that is designed to stop forgery.
That's not the main thing about paper money that you need to know to understand it. If you start with the technical details, of course, people are confused. It's the sort of the Ben Shapiro model of winning an argument.
You find people who don't know the first thing about the topic and then you wipe the floor with them by talking about technical details that they haven't got any reason to know about while skipping over the obvious stuff.
>> Yeah, exactly. I'm I mind the think of trading places where they explain how the markets work in America and it's like well we buy it and then we hope that the price goes down and then we'll make loads of money uh or the half price goes up and we'll make loads of money but if we betted right either way we make lots of money and that's it and they talk about pork bellies I think in in if I can if my mind if I my memory serves you're a bit younger than me you might not remember trading places but it was the it was the film in which um it it's a good film it's got Eddie Murphy in in it. It's got um Dan Akaroid in it and um and uh Jam Lee Curtis, right? And it's about a couple of uh old guys on Wall Street who have this, you know, this this amazing trader who's from private school and born with a silver spoon in his mouth and they they they swap him out for a vagrant who lives on the street begging for money who's played by Eddie Murphy. and they they their bet is the $1 bet is that they could um that they they could get exactly the same results from someone on the street who doesn't know anything about the bond markets or stock markets or anything >> uh as they could from the original guy.
It's a it's it's a great little morality. Unfortunately, there is a scene that involves Blackface and it kind of lets the whole fucking thing down. Dan Akoy, what were you thinking?
>> But um yeah, great film, very funny and um yeah uh yeah, it's very good. Anyway, uh, so do you think do you think can be bought then? Have we found out what his what his what his price is? He keeps flying around in private jets, doesn't he?
>> He's I I British politicians can be remarkably cheap from what we're seeing.
I mean again compared to the amounts of money that you could expect to pay in America for you know a congress person or a senator and considering there's quite a lot of them whereas there's only one leader of reform UK you know actually the price the asking price for British politicians is frighteningly low which is exactly why it's so scary that we got foreign money trying to pile in because if that starts to happen we we've got no competition.
>> The refug leader in Wales Nathan Gil he only it was only 50,000 that's that's chips isn't it? I compared to what they're on in America, that that would be a rounding error on the kinds of donations that they expect to get from your typical sort of pack.
>> He's he's been sentenced 10 years in jail.
>> And and someone pointed out if if Farage is is is prepared to say up the RA on a cameo for 87 quid. What do you think he'll be prepared to do for 5 million?
>> Yes. And what would he put into the Reform UK manifesto and then do in government for that kind of money? Yeah, >> that's a real question. Now, >> uh, how on earth can Royal Mail get away with charging the prices they do? Well, it's quite simple. It got privatized by Cameron and fucking dickhead, what's his name? Face Facebook bloke.
>> Are you talking Nick Fleck?
>> Yeah. Got privatized, didn't it? In what, 20 2013 was it? They privatized it and the price of a first class stamp uh like doubled overnight.
>> On the plus side, student uh student loans went absolutely ballistic. Oh, wait. That's not a plus side. Sorry.
Sorry. I was trying to think. plus side, we also had austerity and loads of people were plunged into abject poverty.
>> No, that's not a plus side either.
>> Oh, and you know the the recovery that we were getting from the credit crunch in 2008, you know, under Alistister Darling and uh and Gordon Brown's leadership. Um yeah, that they fitted that away.
>> Oh, thank goodness for that.
>> And then weed >> Yeah. Then then we they they they promised a referendum on the most divisive topic they could think of in order to plate a wing of the Tory party that still wasn't going to be placated and ultimately did sort of grow into Reform UK. Yeah, that that was that was excellent decision making.
>> Do you know what though? Like you know you know when Superman he takes his glasses off and he's suddenly Superman and no one can tell the difference.
>> That's like all these stories in um in in Reuck, isn't it? All these stories are like, you know, you got you got you got Jenick and you've got Ben um what's her name? Um >> Bado. Yeah.
>> Not Suela Braman.
>> Braderman.
>> And and and and they're like they're like take the glass off and go. No, that was a completely different home secretary and and Minister for Immigration who made the Boris wave happen.
>> Oh, Bobby Genrich. Oh, sorry. Sorry.
Hang on. Are you a Tory?
>> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I've got my glasses on. even fix our immigration system.
>> Oh yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me put my glasses back on so I CAN READ THIS. AH, NO. I'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED.
>> I mean, oh, just what? Like I mean, >> how are people so >> how are they so stupid?
>> I think it's I think it's the case of it's sort of like the UFO thing. I want to believe I think there's a lot of people who really really want to believe that Reform UK are genuinely going to be different because they definitely want different politics. We have had how however many decades of neoliberal sort of centrist politics and they're desperate for something that's not that and reform UK will claim to be not that.
But of course they are the they are the embodiment of neoliberal you know sort of politics like they want to privatize everything. They basically want to privatize the government.
>> Yeah it might be a bit before your time but we used to have a show on TV called Watchdog. It was presented by Anne Robinson and Anne Folds Woods used to present it as well. Very strong wrists.
Um anyway, she um I was thinking we could do a show called Watch Frog. And what it is is we go around finding people who have been conned by Nigel Farage. Maybe like actual people in real life who have met him and been fucked over by him. And we do like a little interview about, oh, so how did how did Farage fuck you over? Or maybe we could have like little old Granny say, I voted for Nigel because I thought he was a lovely man and then he teeth in. I suspect there's a fair number of people in Clankton who are pretty hacked off that while he technically sort of owns but doesn't own a house there.
Never seems to actually never seems to actually turn up there. Isn't that just like just >> question time set in Clactton? He's not there.
>> That's the one question time he suddenly can't make time to be there for weirdly.
>> Well, you know, to be fair, it is Clton.
I mean he of course and of course the fact that you know as Nigel so rightly said who would want to spend every Friday down in Clton apparently god >> it's like and he still got elected there >> you know but Brexit has made far rich whether he says it's for the 5 million that he got for fighting for Brexit doesn't matter even before then he was flying around in private jets and in helicopters and living the life they become accustomed to you know what it was said of him that that money is like water to him he just doesn't even he's just feckless he doesn't It's much like Boris Johnson like his parliamentary salary was described as chicken feed and it's like that's an income that most people like in my in my council >> for that >> would they would give their eye teeth to have a fraction of that as their as their regular annual income. Thank you so very kindly.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> Quite. But like you know if if he says that he can't be bought like what and and the whole pitch of of of Ree is the the the establishment is corrupt. We have to come and save the day >> for this corrupt establishment.
>> Now to be fair Graeme to be fair to him Graeme. When he says he can't be bought, I believe him because he's already bought and paid for. You can't buy what's already off the shelf.
>> Yeah, true. Hope no one tries to take him back. Hope they kept the receipt.
Anyway, um let's talk about your coun well not your council because your Worcester council which is the city council >> and then they've got the county council which is worshshire council.
>> So let's tell me what happened this week. It all fell apart, didn't they?
All the wheels came off.
>> I mean if if you're asking me to tell you what exactly happened. I would love to. I would really really love to but I don't think I don't think I could in in a three movie series. I think I would struggle to get everything in. But I'll try. I'll try and make some sense actually. So >> basically reform you. Let's wind back to the longdistant time in the midst of history known as May 2025. I don't know if you were around back then. I don't know if you can remember.
>> Oh no. Last year. Last year. Go.
>> Last year. Last year. So May 2025, Reform UK uh took control of Worersha County Council with 20 I believe 27 out of 57 council seats. Now, the the the keen eyed among you might notice that that is too short of a majority, but still very very close. Given that the second largest party was the Conservatives with about 12 seats, you can see that it was going to be a right-wing administration of some flavor. Uh you got a mixture, you got a medley of other parties, you got some Lib Dems in there, you got some Greens, you got a couple of Labor people, but realistically reform are the only party that stand a chance of forming an administration.
Unfortunately for them, uh they out of the people they picked obviously they were only going to pick from the exories which gave them four choices. Um one of them was Joe Monk who was someone who'd been booted out of the Tory party for turning up to so few meetings and just not contributing. Um Alan Amos who was previously a Tory MP in Hexom. U seriously Google him. I haven't got time to break down all the ways he's controversial. I'll just I'll just tantalize you by saying that he once called the queen a parasite.
>> He's he's one of Ollie's favorites.
>> Yeah, he's an amazing character in his own right. Um there were So those were the two main contenders. The reform group in 2025 chose Joe Monk and things went wrong pretty quickly. They first lost a counselor because she couldn't hack the idea of commuting all the way to Persaw from Bronzegrove. Um, and so she went, she lost her seat to the Lib Dems in a bi-election. So that's one down. Now they're down from 27 to 26.
This is the start of a theme, by the way. Then the deputy leader of the council can't hack the idea that they're going to actually be putting council taxes up at the same time as hiking senior officer pay when reform had specifically promised council tax cuts on their leaflets. So out goes David Taylor. And so now they're down to 25 and then things start getting really chaotic. You know, one thing leads to another. Joe Monk sent the odd odd legal cease and desist letter to opposition counselors to try and shut them up. Um that doesn't spectacularly well. Yeah, I was uh yeah, that that was a that was a whole story, but we'll leave that one for another time. Um and then we get through to the actual event of them putting up council taxes by 9%. and reform UK councilors go like >> that's our council leader with her face on a 9% council tax rise.
>> Yeah.
>> 9%.
>> Yeah. This isn't this isn't ideal. Um who else do we have? Oh, look. There's Alan Amos. What's that? You feel like stabbing someone in the back? Well, I never. Here's a back. Let's stab it. And so Joe Monk gets voted out by her council group by a margin of 15 to 10 in a closed doors meeting. So they basically decide, okay, it's time to go for Allen and boot Joe. And Joe takes this brilliantly well. And by brilliantly well, I mean she immediately cooks up a plot to try and make sure that her son can take over at the AGM from her without needing to win a vote.
because this is just completely normal politics, my friend. Completely normal politics. It continues from here. So Joe cooks up this plot. It pretty quickly becomes obvious that actually you can't install your son as council leader without a vote. That's not going to fly.
So she then turns to plan B, which is to pick up the phone to her Conservative Party friends because remember she was a Tory before. And she asks them, "Would you fancy propping me up if I make your leader my deputy?" and the conservatives go, "Yeah, nah." And so that puts her in a bit of a quandery. Uh meanwhile, by the way, as a sideeshow to this, her son goes onto social media to start ratting out, to start dishing the dirt on all of the toxic behavior in the reform group WhatsApp channel and publishing stuff about that to the internet and accusing Allen of all sorts of threats and misbehavior. So, Reform UK in the runup to the AGM. We haven't even got there yet, Graeme. In the run-up to the AGM, they boot monks at the same time. Jokes.
>> Joe gone. Ashley gone. No more monks.
The council's much less holy. And importantly, they are now down to 23 seats. Are you still with me?
>> That's nice. Yeah. Yeah.
>> They've now only got 23 seats out of 57 going into the AGM. And don't forget that is still at least eight reform UK counselors who didn't support Alan Amos.
And that was before they found out that he was a massive Brexit hater which is the cardinal sin for anybody who wants to be in the Reborn party.
>> So he he joined sorry he's he hates Brexit but he joined the Brexit party.
>> Yes.
>> That's just had a bit of like p paper like plastered on it saying fuck. They just changed the name. It's the same fucking logo.
>> Yes. Like, however mad you thought this was, it is madder. And I've still I'm >> So, what are we down to? What are we down to now? So, we're down to 23. You at home keeping track at this point in the story before we've hit the day of the AGM. Alan Amos has 23 people who are nominally reform UK, but there are several >> already plotting to leave reform and join the new Worcester Independence Group called the Wigs. Uh less fun kind of wigs. It's like and we're still not done.
>> So we go into that county council meeting. The AGM opens up. There has clearly been some sort of backroom deal struck between the Tories, the Greens, and the Lip Dems who just about have the numbers now between the three groups to make a bid for the leadership. It's a bit dicey, but they're going to give it their best possible go. The Labour counselors haven't really been involved with any of this. They're sitting this one out. Um I don't imagine that you can I don't think you'd get a scenario where these counselors are going to sign on and join a conservative group, but I don't know. Uh important thing is this.
Going into that AGM, some sort of deal has been signed between those three parties. And so they happily vote out Alan Amos who gets fewer than the 23 votes that he could have had because some of his reform UK counselors resign mid meeting, mind you, so often that they have to do multiple calculations for political balance purposes because councils have to have to work out political balance for committee seat arrangements and things like that. It it matters in the world of council land how many counselors you've got. They have to recalculate the political balance multiple times during the meeting, including over lunch. At which point the monitoring officer is like, "Dude, you need to stop resigning or I'm going to I'm going to quit." It's it's kind of at that kind of level, like poor monitoring officer. I don't know their name, but you need a pay rise or or a holiday or a hug. I am more than willing to help out with the last one if you need it. Um, so it's like, you know, we seriously it just absolutely mental stuff. And then having got this coalition together, the Greens are going to lead it. The Tories are going to have the deputy. The Lip Dems are there. And then the meeting closes. Things are starting to settle into shape. Boom. Nuke from orbit. Kem Badok and the entire National Conservative Party mobilize to get rid of the deputy leader, Adam Kent, who is the leader of the Conservative group, and say, "Sorry, did you did you say you were joining a coalition with the Green Party? Yeah, we're busy calling them Islamist extremists, if you don't mind.
No, you're not." And so they booted Adam Kent out. Uh meaning that now we've got a coalition. We have got a coalition in place with the Greens and the Lip Dems.
The Conservatives have just quit it right after the meeting.
>> Yeah.
>> No one knows what happens the next time there's a council meeting. Most likely there's going to be a vote of no confidence in the Green Leader, which he will lose because there are so many opposition counselors. And then we're back to square one with no idea of who's in charge. So, if you've listened to all of what I've just said and you got no idea what to make of any of it, you've been paying attention and you're going to ace the exam.
>> Um, indeed. So, what are they down to now?
>> Um, last I heard they were technically down to 22, but we know that that number is a high number. It is falling as we speak.
>> And this is like a microcosm of what will happen if we get refuck into parliament, isn't it? just infighting, people freaking out because it turns out that Tyson and Farage were just in it for the money. They don't really care about this country. They'd rather not live here if they don't have to.
>> Yeah. Look, guys live in Dubai.
>> Yeah. Like when you look at reform, there are basically two or three types of them. There are the exories who are the rejects of the Conservative party who are never going to win a seat any other way. But they they hitch their wagon to reform and they can give themselves one more spin of the wheel, one more ride on the gravy train. You've got some who are ideological nutcases who really believe in what Nigel Farage is saying about stop the boats and don't understand that it is all for show. You know, when he when he pledges uh concentration camps in Brighton, they think not only is that a good idea, but that Nigel's serious about doing it.
They don't understand that they are being taken for chumps the whole way.
And then you've got some others who are just, you know, maybe feckless, maybe lazy, just don't know what they've signed up for. Um, and so they come in and then discover it's not fun being a counselor. Um, literally yesterday there was a resignation, I believe, over in Staffordshire and the council described being a counselor as, I quote, dull and boring. It's like, "Mate, did you get into local government thinking that we were going to be having gladiatorial combat or uh flying X-wings?" Like, it's not. We don't do this for fun. We do it to work for people.
>> Yeah.
>> Did you not know?
>> No. No. That I mean, there's lunatics, there's there's psychos, there's um but overall, I mean, there is a lot of people in Reock who are in it for the money. They're in it because they want to feather their own nests, >> which is Yeah., you know, So, like I say, if if if you hear the phones ringing in Worcersha, it's probably Chernobyl phoning to ask for the nuclear meltdown back because we are we are just oh my goodness. I I've ne I' I've never seen this in my time in politics. Granted, I've not been around in politics as long as some people, but this is absolutely weaponsgrade madness. And I don't know how it gets better from here. I mean, again, if you're looking at that arithmetic, you've got a conservative group who hate Reform UK's guts because they're led by Alan Amos, who's already knifed them in the back once. You've got a splinter reform UK group who won't work with either of them. Maybe they've worked with the toys to certainly not going to work with Allen. Um, you've got different progressive parties. You've got the Greens and Labor who've now basically fallen out with each other. I wish that wasn't the case, but that's the case. And then you've got the Lib Dems who'd kind of work with whoever they can work with, but there's just not that many of them. Yeah, >> it's a mess. I don't know how you build a majority. There are people genuinely wondering, is this where we finally see a county council actually get wound up by the government because it's too dysfunctional? I imagine that people calling Westminster because it's less dysfunctional.
>> Yeah.
Anyway, so um so where should we go next? You want to go to UFOs or gay porn?
>> Beam me up, Scotty. Um, Miss Paula Thomas, thank you very much for the five pound super chat. Alan Amos has a complex political history. He was a Labour counselor in Tower Hamlet. Before that, he was a right-wing Tory MP.
>> Yeah, he keeps getting kicked in the head by a horse.
>> That's only part of the biography. Like, however, you cannot extract a part of Allen's biography.
>> Is he just the most like randomest man alive?
>> He I I don't really know how to describe it. I think, if I'm honest, I think there are some people who enjoy watching the world burn, and I think that's Allan. And I think that he came into that council meeting the other day, knowing full well it was unworkable, and whatever happened was going to be a disaster, and it's just kind of I can't have it, so nobody can. No, I don't think he cares. Not really.
>> Okay, so let's talk about um Kieran Lei.
Um this is this is this is a counselor who uh decided that uh that the biggest uh problem facing um Doncaster at at this moment is that is not the whether Doncaster airport should open again or not. It's whether they should have a special unit embedded within the council almost headed up by some kind of like molder and skully figures who who investigate unidentified flying objects.
Although he didn't call them that, did he?
>> Technically, you see, they're unidentified aerial phenomena, which is much less wacky.
>> Yes.
>> Sorry. That's just that it's I I genuely >> apparently on the recommendation of NASA >> I've I've seen some very interest I've had people coming on to my comments in Facebook saying you know Ed you're you're being uncharitable like this there's a serious issue around UAPs and it's like do you think that the job of a local county council is to take an interest in UAPs? Do you think that's what's going on here? that is giving a whole lot of benefit of an incredible amount of doubt. If you're prepared to believe that uh then then I'm prepared to tell you that uh that that UFOs are real and I've seen one. You know, it's like >> did they they had on the feed like the the other reform counselors in the council.
Yeah. You just see them dying like just >> oh my god. He's on our team. This is fine.
>> This is This is >> This is fine.
>> And And he's backtracked since then.
He's backtracked since then. He's claimed that he was trying to lighten the mood and making a serious point about safety around the airport, you know, with drones and stuff like that.
>> The most frustrating thing.
>> Isn't this the worst thing though? Like so often in politics, someone says something horrifying and then they say, "Oh, it was just a joke. Why didn't you laugh?"
>> Yeah.
>> It's like that's not an excuse. That doesn't make it okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, um Yeah. So, beam me up and then um I don't know what you want to do to me against a dry stone wall, but if you want to see people get up to that kind of shit, uh if you want to type Steven Moul into Only Fans, uh you'll find an adult g a gay adult performer uh who has a lot of explicit material um who defended himself. He's now a ref counselor. He's a refund counselor. He's defended himself saying no laws are broken. I mean, look, all I'm going to say is I'm sure that there are lots of people uh in Reform UK who were having a lot of fun about Zack Palansky and his mom not long ago, who are going to be having to do some serious mental gymnastics to make sense of this one.
>> What did Jack What did Zach get up to with his mom?
>> Well, I I think I think there was a story that they were putting around on the internet. I I think it's I think it may be true, but I for legal purposes, I'm genuinely not sure. Um, apparently something about his mom being a sex worker. That was the story that was being pushed around.
>> God.
>> And it's like >> we we have we have officially >> God, >> we have officially in this country in our politics gone gone into crazy land.
We've gone into wonderland. We are through the looking glass. This is a level of madness that we should not be putting up with. And I just want to I just want to say again for the record, this isn't appropriate or normal politics. This isn't where we should be having our discussion on our >> This is a trumpification of politics though. Trump Trump married a porn star or you know a sex trafficked woman from East uh Europe like and and he had he had an affair with a porn star while his his trafficked wife was at home pregnant with his child Baron >> like the the the he's normalized this shit. He's going to have a UFC fight on the fucking White House lawn and he's looking forward to it. The fucking reflecting. He's painted it blue like a trashy fucking, you know, holiday in fucking pool for the 1980s. like but >> it gets messier because when you when you think about like things like this the the well the the the conspiracy theory surrounding a certain pizza location in America and Hillary Clinton and her lot that whole conspiracy theor theory universe that got started like basically instead of us talking about serious policy instead of us talking about how we make life better for people instead of actually talking about constitutional matters you know we we've kind of in the world of politics it feels like all of that has just been thrown out of the window and instead we're debating about how low we can go with our personal attacks, how nasty we can make it, how hostile the environment can be made towards women, how exclusionary we can be, how racist we can get away with being now. Uh, and just it's it's turned into this permanent culture war, this permanent race to the bottom. And it's it's a race to the bottom where the public loses.
>> Yeah. Yeah. There was there was another thing this week about uh that I saw about a refucker a refuck counselor claimed that a labor counselor asked in the first meeting about pensions.
>> I don't if you saw this.
>> Oh, I saw that one and that would turned out to be a completely madeup story.
There was one >> there was only one Labour counselor and they've been a member for nine years.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So they've been that didn't have to go to because it was the initiation thing. It was like >> Yeah. It's like and and and they accompanied this bullshit with a fucking AI picture >> of like just I hate them.
>> AI generation photos. I honestly I honestly believe like Okay, I'm a member of the Labour Party. I'm a Labour counselor. I've got to mind what I say.
I know. But also, head office, if you're listening, please, for the love of small fluffy kittens, can we ban this crap? I hate it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I I I I realize that there are genuine market cases for certain kinds of use of AI, but the generation the mass generation of memes that's effectively being funded by billionaires pouring money into these companies which are losing money when it turns to when it comes to actually, you know, selling to consumers. This has got to stop. This isn't a business model. This is just the trashification of politics. But it it it it pisses me off when politicians get involved in the new tech shiny fucking thing and you're like, "For God's sake, why are you falling for this?" Labour did this last year where they started talking about hydrogen and fucking um carbon collection, carbon storage. And I'm like screaming at the telly and that's I'm like, "What the fuck? They're lying to you. There's no such thing. It doesn't fucking work. It breaks the second law of thermodynamics. Fuck off."
The problem again I think the problem there I want to be I want to be kind but at the same time like let's be honest and Phil would be one saying this if he was in the room right now that most politicians do not have a STEM background you know most politicians don't and the general level of STEM understanding in Britain is pretty atrocious like how many times how many times have you been in a room where if you know which end of a computer a MIDI cable goes into you are practically a wizard like you know People don't have a basic understanding of technology in >> I I'm constantly impressing people with the way that I know how a computer works. I don't know how it works. Sorry.
I don't know. I just know where to plug everything into. It's amazing.
>> This is IT support. Have you tried turning it off and on again?
>> But I grew up in the analog sphere, so I could work with coaxial cables and SC cables and RCA cables, that kind of shit. So that I know which one goes into the thing. But my partner's got a PhD in physics. So I just say, "Listen, cat, what what what's the, you know, what's the scam with fucking hydrogen?" She just explains to me like, "You just can't it just can't be used as an energy source cuz the fucking the the atoms, it's not a molecule. It's an atom >> and they're too fucking small." And they just go into other stuff. They just go, "Oh, look, a lining of this thing that I've been put into. I'm going to become part of the lining." Now, >> are you are you sure that Cat's got a PhD? That doesn't sound like a very sciency explanation, little >> That's me. That's me. That's me translating it into Scouse so I understand it. Um, thanks very much to Richard there for the UFO bing collections. That's a good idea. I was going to say that there's not enough prison cells for these uh for the all these V fuckers are. But there's probably not enough bins either. Um uh SG uh two pound super chat. Thank you.
We are no longer serious people. See also Kayfabe talking about the whole thing in wrestling in America where they go behind the scenes and it's all part of the soap opera and they've got lines, scripted lines and stuff. Donald Trump will jump into the ring at the UFC fight.
>> He will be part of it >> and it will be fucking embarrassing.
>> It'll be so cringe. I I might cringe myself inside out. I might snap my spine just because I've cringed so hard.
>> It's going to be grim. It's gonna be really fucking grim.
>> You've clearly seen Donald Trump dancing then. It's sort of like >> wanking two people off at the same time.
>> But thank you for that mental image. I hadn't thought of that. But but thank you. I appreciate that one.
>> I'm sure I'm sure our friend Steven Mousall has got a video of him doing that, you know, doing the Trump dance.
>> Yeah, it's it's it's terrifying, isn't it? That this is But it it is that, >> you know, at the end of the day, a socially conservative party defending sex work freedoms.
Well, it's I think what you got to understand the thing about the thing about right-wing and sort of well-moneyed capitalist politicians like Donald Trump, they're not actually fundamentally against sex work. They're just they're against the sex workers.
They're against people. They're against people at the lower end of the income scale.
>> Yeah, true. Um Sarah saying we have Betamax videos. If you want to confuse a child today, show them a VHS tape or cassette. Yeah, it's very cool. But yeah, the reason why Betamax lost the format wars back in the early 80s, this is before you were bought, it was because the the the the makers of Betamax, Sony, they wouldn't allow porn to be sold on their format.
>> But VHS were like, "Yeah, whatever." So VHS was bigger, clunkier, less quality.
It was shitter by a mile. BeatMax was a superior version of this analog technology at the time. And uh yeah, they lost because, you know, porn.
>> Anyway, so what else have we got? The the the uh the the we could mention this election that we're going to have now in Makerfield.
>> This is going to be an uphill struggle >> possibly >> for >> Andy Burnham. What What's your take on it? We've got Before we start on this, sorry, before we start on this topic, I just want to say to everyone at 7, we're going to be uh finishing the show and if you keep watching, we're going to automatically magically take you over to Aid Thompson's feed. So, we're going to have a raid on Aid. Hey, hey, see what I did there? So, uh, say hello from us. I I'll jump in as well and say big big big fanies or something. Anyway, go on. So, what were you saying, Ed?
>> Okay, so obviously the reason that Andy Burnham would be standing that we all understand what this is about. It's about Andy wanting to challenge Karma for the Labour leadership given the poll numbers. I shan I shan dig too deep into them. Uh, but you know, the poll numbers would very much seem to indicate that he's going to probably have a better chance of beating Star than many of the other contenders. So, it makes sense why he'd want to have the chance. Um, so bear with me. Thank you. Um, so he's obviously running into this parliamentary bi-election with the intention of challenging Star. Uh, is he guaranteed to win that parliamentary bi-election? I suppose you could say no, he's not. You know, looking at the local election results in that area. It was tough. Reform UK did very well there.
But I will posit you this, Graeme. M >> if Andy Bham is pitching to replace Stara because he is more electable than Stara then if he can't win that bi-election he's kind of disproven his own case but if on conversely if he can win that bi-election handsomely yes >> he's also kind of proven this point so I I feel like you know that is the conversation that's going to be had and actually it's quite neat that in a sense the public is going to get the chance to have their say on this um you know is Andy Bernham electable enough to be worth putting in and beating reform. Can he beat reform? If the answer is yes, then he makes very good potential material for the Labour leadership. I also think it's worth sort of digging through a little bit of the the drama that took place over the last few days.
I was I was standing um in a constituents sort of front room. He'd got the TV on. He'd got Sky News ticking away as we were talking about a constituency issue and he was saying and he sort of looked at that and said, "Oh, grief. What's going on now?" And basically I was watching in real time as the Labour Party was using Sky News effectively to talk to each other. And I thought, "Yeah, I can see what's going on. Angela has said, "Yes, I HMRC have cleared me." Translation, wind your neck in, Wes, I would beat you. I'm not going to trigger the contest. So if you don't, maybe you get to walk away with some dignity.
>> Yeah.
>> And that's broadly what seems to have happened.
>> Well, yeah. Um and and you notice the way that the BBC reported that they said uh they didn't say the HMRC uh cleared Angela Raina. They said um Angela Raina says HMRC cleared her. Do you know what I mean? Like it's they're little bastards at the BBC. You know, I don't want to get rid of the BBC unlike GB News and Re. I don't want to get rid of the BBC, but I would like that not to be allowed. You know, I want to I want to say for the record, love the BBC. There are some very good people who work there. I think there's always things that can be improved and there's always things, you know, I think it's about unraveling the years and years and years of meddling that were done by the Tory party. Let's not forget the amount of a hatchet job that they did on the director general at the time and sort of trying to pack it out with their stooges. That takes time to unpick.
>> Yeah. Um, we've had another two counselors uh sack off uh refuck in my neck of the woods here in Durham. Uh, so andrew Harrison and Kenny Hope are both fucked the fuck off. Um, as a patriot, I will work with my friends and reform counselors to bring about a new government and get the UK back on its feet. But as they resides from Refor UK, uh, Reform UK, sorry, due to in Go on, sorry.
>> I was gonna say as a patriotic person, I wish to say that I will work with my Reform UK colleagues to deliver stable government for Britain, but not as part of Reform UK. I trust them so much.
>> This is pretty much Yeah. Yeah. Uh, sad day. I've resigned from Refor UK due to unre unreconcilable differences with the leadership in Durham and lack of support. This has been highlighted in writing on multiple occasions and my reasoning. I joined Reforok UK Durham to make it clear to make a clear difference to people's lives and this is what I will be doing going forward. I have supported the party tirelessly for a year working full-time hours while volunteering to help many groups. This is evident by the support I have locally. Um but um yeah, he feels like um you know he he's uh he's not happy with the uh I won't go into any further details because >> evidence by myself professional >> aka my mom.
>> Sorry.
>> I will say I've not had any complaints by anyone disclosed to me or any other reason for my resignation. It's simply the right thing to do.
>> So he's fucked off now. Um, >> it's it's a it's a funny thing how many again I get so many people saying it's like why Reform UK had the most seats in Worersha. Why won't you let them have the chance to run the place? And it's like well it would be lovely if Reform UK agreed that that was the right thing to do but that's something they can't agree to.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um so yeah he he was a counselor for Seam. Now Sem is a place along the Durham coast which is absolutely fucking obsessed with World War I. Uh so much so they've got a giant statue of a Tommy sitting down looking sad. A giant metal statue in the middle of the village green of a gi and it's like a giant giant proportions in the middle of the village green. Well, you know town green I suppose it's on it's on the water. Um and it's like can you calm down with the whole world and if you go anywhere near there at like poppy Christmas season uh during remembrance Sunday uh it is it is insane. It's just like poppies everywhere you look and there's poppy benches and there's there's and it's just like oh make did something happen was there a big battle of World War I in see them that I missed was that you know twins with yeep or something or or or the s >> to be fair like I think for certainly if you go around worers I'm guessing it's the same pretty much around your neck of the woods as well like there's a lot of World War I memorials that have sort of that that that still exist in all the sort of the rural villages like if you drive >> the old stuff that's fine I mean, it's the new stuff. It's the STUFF THAT'S JUST YEAH. YEAH. IT'S BRAND NEW. They made only made it a few years ago.
>> Honestly, that even in our village here, they've got like a new bench that's that's welded together really badly with like puppies on it.
>> It's all like less we forget. And it's like fucking will you calm down? Every single village in Durham has got some newish war memorial that's been paid for by >> gambons who got too much money like those people who died. No, no one does.
that the lest we forget thing. I really it really pains me to say this, but I worry that lines like that have become so owned by the right wing that actually it's really hard to not see them as political. Like if I see loads of help for heroes banners and poppies on a on a house, I I walk up to it going, I know you're going to be very right-wing. I just know it. I wish this wasn't political, but this is turning into a political statement rather than rather than something that is actually about commemoration, which is really sad.
That's not what it's meant to be.
>> So, yeah, the huge statue of a sad looking guy in with his with his, you know, tin hat on. Uh, it was displayed temporarily in CM from May 2014, but became a permanent fixture after a committee of local residents raised the £102,000 needed to buy it.
>> It's only been there 10 years.
>> Imagine how much council housing you could build with that.
>> Well,und 102,000. Yeah, you could build >> build more house build half a house.
>> No, actually it doesn't cost that much to build houses. It just costs a lot to buy them.
>> Natural bricks and mortar don't cost that much.
>> Um but yeah, uh it is a a statue. It's it is uh 2.8 m tall and it weighs 1.2 tons.
>> What's it made of?
>> Uh fucking steel. Cotton steel.
>> Cotton steel. I think they melted down the the steel from all the all the all the swords from the the war of the the conquest of Westeros or something. I don't know. I mean it's just oh just calm down just >> I don't know there is an obsession there is a unhealthy obsession with a particular war we never talk about the bore war do we no one ever goes off on one about the sevenyear war >> correction when we started having conversations about Nigel Farage literally proposing concentration camps for Bri for Brighton I started getting loads of reform supporters telling me oh no Ed stop being so upset about concentration camps we invented them during the Boa war it's like does that make this okay now.
>> Yeah.
>> Do we are we are we saying it's okay because we did them first.
>> Yeah.
>> That's that that's not the reason the reason concentration bad concentration camps are bad isn't because it was Germans doing it isn't because it was Brits doing it. It's because Nazis were doing it and it was just a bad thing to do. It was one of many bad things they did. Why are we talking about replicating that? No.
>> Sorry. Um, so yeah, apparently 400 people from from um CM died in World War I.
>> That might be part of it. Yeah.
>> Uh, how many Liverpoolians died in World War I? Let's have a look. Uh, 13,000.
So, Liverpool wins. Sorry.
>> Anyway, horrifying.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, no. We've had we've had some problems with our connection. Oh, no.
>> Oh, sorry, Viper Scott. It's all right.
It's on now. I didn't notice. Normally get like a ping in my ear when it goes off. Have they missed us saying something very intelligent and helpful?
>> No, because we haven't said anything on intelligence or hopeful for a few minutes now. We're just moaning about all these bloody wars memorials cropping up everywhere for award that everyone seems to have forgotten. You know, they say less we forget. It's more like best we forget for these people. Like, yeah, let's do that again. Hey, remember when Hitler started? LET'S DO THAT AGAIN.
EXCEPT this time we can be the Nazis.
Yay.
>> It's like hi hi guys. Hi guys. This is just this is just a reminder. do know that we actually we were on the Allied side of that war. Yeah. Yeah. Are you aware they won? The Allies won the war.
Yeah. Yeah.
>> Thanks.
>> The Nazis were the baddies. They were the bad guys. They were they were the ones with skulls on their hats.
>> Sorry.
But anyway, so yeah, it is interesting though that this this party, this anti-establishment party is so this anti- elite, anti-corruption.
I'm so sick of politics as usual. I want something different. And and it's like, >> give me a break from establishment politics. Give me a man who would be brave enough to accept 5 million quid from a billionaire in Thailand. That's the man for me.
>> Fingers crossed. Hey, listen. Uh we got another two pound super chat coming from Saz. We got one minute left of the show.
If you want to get one more super chat in, that means we can fire off the confetti cannon, which will be very exciting. Uh but yeah, in the meantime, I mean, yeah, like I say, I it is I don't know. I'm just I'm just cringing.
Oh god. I'm looking at this picture of uh this guy who's who's resigned counselor Andrew Harrison.
>> We've got confirmation that he's real, haven't we?
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Because there there was a counselor that they the BBC verified team had to go and check he wasn't actually a fake guy.
Turns out he is real. He just looks AI generated.
>> Well, this guy couldn't look more gamy if he possibly tried. I'm just going to put him up on the side of the screen that I mean he's just that is prize gam.
I know you can't see it, Ed, but it's coming up. I can't see anything. Uh, but oh my OMG, he is he is Gamy. What can I say? Gamy cricket over there. Pretty pretty fucking gamy. Let's get rid of him. Uh, so, uh, what have we got here?
Alisa, don't tell her you have free women after Snaky. What? What? What was that for Mel McFerson fearsome? Hey, Saz, one more super chat. That means I can release the confi cannon. Three, two, one, conf.
Yay! Woo! We did it. Yay. Okay. Well, on on that note, I think it's time for us to uh to to uh to uh to bid bid a but uh you know um reform.
They're there to oppose corruption, incompetence, and elitism.
And they are like the most corrupt elitist corrupt fucking incompetent bunch of motherfuckers.
>> Congratulations to Glostersha for getting rid of three of them yesterday.
More like that, please.
So, um, we're going to leave you in the in the wonderful, caring company of Aid Thompson. So, please say hello from us and, um, until we meet again, have a great weekend. Thank you very much to Ed for coming on the show this evening and talking about I mean, there's a lot to get through to be fair. That was all this week.
>> A lot in an hour.
>> That was just this week.
>> It's insane. It's insane.
>> Wait for next week.
>> And just when you think it's going to like any more wacky, it's like, oh well, UFOs and porn stars. Like what's next?
What? What is At least at least at least they give us content?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And they make you wish that Doctor Who was real so we could bring that time machine around so we could go to a more normal period of history.
>> Oh, can I go to another timeline? Can I get off the Biff timeline, please? Miss Potter Thomas, before we go, World War II was a family argument in which millions died. Yeah, it was all of Queen Victoria's grandchildren all having a family feud. Anyway, so thanks for watching and until next time, hello, good evening, welcome and goodbye. Say hello to Wade.
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