GLP 1s, Protein Shortages, and Apple’s Menopause Moment | Ep. 491

[00:00:00]This is the Poddy with Serene >> and Pearl.

[00:00:03]>> Get it right. P O D D Y.

[00:00:09]>> Women and men, boys and girls, we are back on the Trim Healthy podcast with Serene Pearl. And I'm Danny Valdez. And you're you.

[00:00:17]So glad you're here. And uh before we get clapping.

[00:00:22]That's the wrong phrase.

[00:00:24]Cranking. That's what I meant to say.

[00:00:26]We don't want to get clapping.

[00:00:28]Uh we have an announcement that uh the great, the only Leslie Mortimer Wallace. Not today.

[00:00:38]But in the coming episodes is going to be joining us.

[00:00:40]>> Leslie pops.

[00:00:41]>> Leslie pops.

[00:00:41]>> The summer. Yeah. So those of you who have been listening to this podcast for years, know Leslie. You know her and you love her. Well, she has been doing her thing, but she is coming back to say hello. And we are so excited.

[00:00:54]>> Yeah. It's going to be like the good old days. All right. But to dive in to today's show, uh we're talking about GLP-1s, protein shortages, and Apple's menopause moment.

[00:01:08]>> Wow.

[00:01:08]>> Didn't realize Apple had a menopause.

[00:01:09]>> And you know when I saw that, because I looked at the show notes before here, and I like GLP-1s, why are we talking about that? It makes every It makes half people love us and half people hate us.

[00:01:17]I actually really >> And the haters are louder than the lovers.

[00:01:19]>> I really like this conversation today that that was in the show notes. So I think it's a really to use a term nuanced one.

[00:01:29]>> Oh, you sound >> intelligent.

[00:01:30]>> People going to love us or hate us.

[00:01:32]They're just going to be like, "Hmm.

[00:01:33]Okay."

[00:01:34]>> So I'm going to need a little bit of an education from the experts on GLP-1s.

[00:01:40]Because when I hear things like that, um I I think chemicals immediately. Um I know everybody's doing um What's the one that's that everybody's losing weight on?

[00:01:50]>> Tirzepatide?

[00:01:50]>> N- No, there's a Everybody's like trying >> Mounjaro.

[00:01:54]Wegovy.

[00:01:56]>> This is insane. Like these words are insane to me.

[00:01:59]>> Yeah, but but but that's not what this conversation is about today. That's why I liked it cuz we didn't have to explain to you I'm going back.

[00:02:05]>> [laughter] >> No, it's like, "Oh my goodness." Serene and Pearl are saying, "It's okay if some people need to use GLP-1s." That wasn't the conversation.

[00:02:14]>> But what are GLP-1s?

[00:02:15]>> Oh, so they're a mimetic of a urine [ __ ] hormone. A mimetic mean it it mimics it's the exact replica of an incretin hormone, a digestion gut hormone that you have in your body and >> Or two.

[00:02:28]>> Some are two, some are three, some are one. We personally don't use them.

[00:02:33]>> Okay.

[00:02:34]>> Go weight, don't need them, don't have excessive food noise.

[00:02:37]>> thing?

[00:02:38]>> No.

[00:02:39]>> No.

[00:02:39]>> Not for everyone. It started out as a started out as type two diabetes thing.

[00:02:45]Went to weight loss. Now it's circling back around for people with inflammation, people >> Cardiovascular disease.

[00:02:52]>> So many issues they're finding, pain relief. They're finding uh latest study, two days ago I saw something coming to my newsfeed, 30% less chance of breast cancer for women taking one of these because why?

[00:03:05]>> Inflammation.

[00:03:05]>> Inflammation.

[00:03:07]>> Okay, so would you consider them natural?

[00:03:11]>> Well, they're they're like a natural hormone. So they are they're bigger heavy hitters. So you every time, you know, you eat, you make GLP-1 in your body.

[00:03:21]>> Okay.

[00:03:22]>> Now, for some, some people don't make as as much as they used to. Actually, all of us as we age don't make as much as we used to, but some of us, you know, strength training, protein eating, never yo-yo diet, we're we're okay.

[00:03:34]>> Yo-yo dieting is a big one. If you've yo-yo dieted for years, it can sometimes crash your GLP-1 for years. It's hard for it to recover again.

[00:03:42]>> I think Serene, you and I still make a lot. I think we're good there. But for people who don't, they don't make as much after a meal. So then if they take a GLP-1, it is much more of a heavy dose than their body will make. So, that's why some people that take, you know, regular doses can have too much appetite suppression, so forth and so on, get some gastric issues. But, a lot of people these days if it's done well, if it's done slow, and the titration is very slow as well, like I if it's done low, like low dosing and the titration is slow, then you don't get those side effects and you just get all of the help that you need.

[00:04:19]>> So, are people shopping differently because they're taking GLP-1s? It changes your cravings. Are you Are you less uh craving on like carbs and >> Yeah, so that's what the show notes were about, right? So, has this changed the way people are putting food in their grocery carts? Is this changing the way people are eating in the United States? Serena and I were talking about this on the car on the way here because we were out doing some things together.

[00:04:47]>> And I think it depends on where you live, right?

[00:04:49]>> In Tennessee, I'm sure it's not changing the the way that people are shopping at Walmart.

[00:04:56]>> Okay.

[00:04:56]>> I just don't see it. I don't see what they're putting in the cart before me.

[00:05:00]It's still regular-old sad American diet. I If you're on a GLP-1, you're trying to anchor your foods around protein. You're meant to. You're meant to have a fiber-rich diet. And so, I think the show notes were trying to say, are people changing and they're just having more cleaner, protein-centered grocery carts? Is it changing how grocery stores are going to you know, present and and have food available? Is it more fiber-rich vegetables? I'm not seeing that. Not in Tennessee.

[00:05:26]>> But, I think this is what I think. I don't know. I I also travel, and I've been to some very metro areas where I think people are doing that. Let's just say, okay, so if you've got children, you're not you're not just like eating less, are you? I mean, you you've got children.

[00:05:44]You're not on a GLP-1. You still have to have a full grocery cart. but let's just say you're a couple and you're in metro LA, I don't know, and you want to, you know, really be trim. And so, you're using a GLP-1. I can imagine that in those places where people are really using these, and they don't have big families, I think shopping is changing there, but it hasn't hit rural Tennessee.

[00:06:06]I don't know, you know, all the listeners we have all around the states and globally, I don't know if you're seeing an impact, but what's happening on the >> Cruise. You said you didn't >> see any.

[00:06:16]What about you? You live in an affluent area, Franklin, Tennessee. Do you think it's changing things there?

[00:06:21]>> Well, I hear a lot about Ozempic. That's the word I was looking for earlier.

[00:06:25]That's a GLP-1, right? Yeah, everybody's rocking Ozempic and I'm seeing my my big fellow friends.

[00:06:32]>> Okay.

[00:06:33]>> Like, it's noticeably like half their size, some of these people, and >> But are they changing their diet with it? Do you think they're being more healthy, you know, healthily conscious?

[00:06:42]Or are they just eating less pizza?

[00:06:43]>> No, I I think that um cuz I asked a friend and I I'm never shy about this with men. Yeah, we speak to a woman about her weight >> [laughter] >> whatsoever. Not even my own wife. Just like, "Yeah, you're great. Perfect."

[00:06:56]Don't talk to me.

[00:06:57]Um but men, I will rub their belly and say, "Good on you."

[00:07:03]>> Yeah.

[00:07:04]>> "I see it." And I did that to a guy at a party. I was like, "Man, you're like half you. Like, what what are you doing?" And they're like, "It's Ozempic, brother."

[00:07:13]And I asked this guy uh the other about a week ago, um "Are is it also are you are you eating really healthy?" He goes, "Well, because I'm on this, I'm I'm paying for this, and so I'm choosing, yeah, to just not eat junk because I'm not going to just take Ozempic and then continue eating junk. So, I think it's more I don't I don't know if it curbs crave changes the way people crave or not."

[00:07:36]>> It can.

[00:07:37]>> Okay.

[00:07:38]>> Yeah, I think it I think it can. And I think at first it was done so fast and so hard and everyone was getting a sempic face and losing 50 lb.

[00:07:46]>> But I want to say something. And it's not really what this party is about, but I want to stand against that term. I don't think it's a true term Ozempic face.

[00:07:55]>> I think it should be called a term in culture.

[00:07:57]>> I know, but I don't believe it was honest.

[00:08:00]>> Yeah.

[00:08:00]>> I think it should be called fast weight loss face.

[00:08:02]>> Yes.

[00:08:02]>> I don't care if you are on a fasting >> Why cuz you look gaunt or something?

[00:08:07]>> not because of Ozempic. Ozempic doesn't have little demons inside of it trying to go and eat up your muscle.

[00:08:12]>> Yeah.

[00:08:12]>> It's just that on any very strict caloric fast weight loss deal, you are going to lose 50% of your muscle. I don't care if it's Ozempic. I don't care if you're just starving.

[00:08:23]>> Well, if you lose fat fast as well as your muscle, you are going to look drawn because your body doesn't have time to keep up. And if you do if you're suppressing your appetite so much that you can't get in enough protein, >> Yeah.

[00:08:35]>> well, it drops your face.

[00:08:36]>> Okay.

[00:08:37]>> It drops your whole body. So, that's why it's not because of Ozempic molecules.

[00:08:41]>> No, it No, you're right. Cuz our own body makes Ozempic molecules.

[00:08:44]>> Yeah, and the fact is is when it's done slowly, like my husband has been on a GLP-1 because he it was like a genetic blood sugar issue thing. He ate like me.

[00:08:53]And it just wasn't even fair.

[00:08:54]>> Not quite as >> Yeah, but yeah.

[00:08:56]>> The worst thing he had was blue organic corn chips. I mean, that was his worst.

[00:09:00]And it just it just wasn't working for him. He had inflammation. He had like his fasting blood sugar was pre-diabetic. And I would it would be my THM meal that I'd feed him in the evening. So, it just didn't make sense, but GLP-1 was is just a game-changer. We did it slow, and we titrated slowly, and it's just so amazing, but he didn't get Ozempic face. He didn't get flat butt.

[00:09:21]He didn't get any of that. In fact, he built muscle on it.

[00:09:24]>> These are like insults in the health community. Ozempic face, flat butt.

[00:09:27]>> Yeah, yeah.

[00:09:28]>> What do you say to a mama who's >> beard, your hair.

[00:09:31]>> Yeah, thanks.

[00:09:31]>> Yeah.

[00:09:32]>> What do you say to a mama who's not on a GLP-1, but is still struggling with cravings and appetite.

[00:09:38]>> Well, it's I mean, we wrote a whole big book called Trim Healthy Wisdom about that very thing and it is many things. It's protein. It's fermented foods. It's fixing the gut.

[00:09:49]It's eating enough veggies. There There are fantastic whole foods way to do it.

[00:09:53]I want to circle back to Sam, your husband, cuz we always use him as a as kind of a testimony of someone who used GLP-1 right, right? And he really he's a different man. He's so healthy.

[00:10:04]He just used a small amount and he never went psycho, never lost weight fast.

[00:10:10]Brilliant. But then people say to us, well, hold on then. If he was eating so well, almost like Yuserene, why even do Trim Healthy Mama? Trim Healthy Mama doesn't work then. Why do you need a GLP-1?

[00:10:21]>> Well, because if he was a sad eating a sad American diet right now, he wouldn't look the amazing man he is today.

[00:10:28]>> Well, he wouldn't even he was kind of maintaining a heavy weight for him, but he would have exploded.

[00:10:33]>> Oh, no, without Yeah. Trim Healthy Mama, he would have been 70 lbs more than what he was, maybe 100. But But Trim Healthy Mama kept him pre-diabetic, not diabetic and needing insulin. And so, it was a situation where if he was just doing the GLP-1 molecule and eating crap, >> Yeah.

[00:10:55]>> it would not he would not feel amazing.

[00:10:57]He would not have built the muscle. He He's been doing five servings of protein a day. He's been in the gym. It's all the things he was doing and the Yuserene because it's just the little thing that made it key and not >> do brand name Yuserene. He did the the compounded. Yeah, the compounded semaglutide.

[00:11:14]>> So, when you're when somebody's on a GLP-1, why does protein become more of a important topic? Are they losing muscle too because of the lower appetite?

[00:11:26]>> Well, you only have you would do have a lower appetite. It depends on dosing, but some people really feel that appetite suppression. So, you only have a window of how much food you can eat.

[00:11:35]>> Oh.

[00:11:35]>> So, if you're just going to eat your little carb first and maybe a veggie, where's your protein going to come in, right? Serene, do you have anything to say on that?

[00:11:42]>> Oh, yeah. Like my husband, his main thing was drinking protein. Like every time he walked in the door, I just handed him a protein shake. It was just like unsweetened almond milk and our optimized whey or or our essential in water, but he was he would on his meal, he'd always anchor it around protein and eat the protein first and whatever he could after that protein and the veggies.

[00:12:00]>> So so smart. I was you know, I was the kid who was like, "When I grow up, I'm eating ice cream for every meal." Like, "Why are these adults so stupid?" And I was that for a while, but it actually feels really great to to get your protein down first. Like almost get like I don't know. Like I'm always targeting like getting like half full on the protein. Like I'm trying to get that.

[00:12:23]>> And I think it's really good for people say they are needing a GLP-1 or just good for some who don't eat enough protein. I don't like it when it becomes a rule, like always eat your protein first. Or some people have this rule, always eat your veg first. I'm like a free eater. I I like to eat all of the things at once just because I love it and I don't want people putting a big rule on me. But I think for some like you, you're not going to probably eat enough protein unless you tell yourself to eat it first.

[00:12:47]>> Yeah, I have to I have to eat it first or I will carb out.

[00:12:51]>> And then we have to remember if you if we just like protein protein protein, then we can get all carnivory in our heads and like animal foods, it's the thing, it's the protein. And then we forget the other half of health, which plants. We cannot have a healthy microbiome without the plants, which are the cellulose and the fiber and the resistant starch that feed our microbiome.

[00:13:10]Where are we without gut health? We have no gut health with just meat.

[00:13:14]>> don't make GLP-1 when you don't have a diverse microbiome cuz GLP-1 is made in the gut. And even though it responds to protein >> Yes.

[00:13:22]>> even though it responds to even whey protein is actually a hack, a GLP-1 um releaser.

[00:13:29]>> It revs it up.

[00:13:30]>> Of all the foods on this planet, whey protein is the highest stimulator of GLP-1.

[00:13:36]>> Okay, so protein used to be like a gym bro topic. Nobody talked about protein maybe even 10 years ago. But >> Except us, people.

[00:13:44]>> Well, there's I mean, you go in any house now, there's a bag of whey protein in the shelf. There There is no home without it. Why do you think it's gotten so huge?

[00:13:53]>> I think protein is having a moment because we have access to latest information that people with even 10 years ago, it wasn't out there like it is now. And now the science is just pouring out.

[00:14:06]>> Jay Robb's protein powder and a couple of other Swansons and Jay Robb and there wasn't >> It was always dudes.

[00:14:12]>> Yeah, and then we came out. We were like the first female brand that started promoting protein.

[00:14:17]>> Yeah.

[00:14:18]>> And um but you know, now every influencer every 8 seconds is telling you why you need protein, why because, you know, after 30 we all age and we lose our muscle. So, I think people are aware of it now.

[00:14:30]>> used to think whey protein made you fat because a lot of a lot of gym bros would put the gainers to it. And it would just be all about gaining, but whey protein is it has satiety naturally satiety hormone secretion.

[00:14:44]>> Yeah.

[00:14:44]>> You know, molecules in it and it helps us with satiety and it helps us lose weight. It's amazing amazing stuff. But I just think protein, yeah, it's it's it's having its day, but I think people need to understand it's not just about the trend. There is something more wise that they have to get about it. Not just like, "Oh, yeah, I'm into protein."

[00:15:04]And they have it all in one area like one section of the day. Like, "Oh, you know, I I starve pretty much during the day and I skip breakfast and now I'm having my my steak and everything like that." But I think people have to understand that protein is a choice that they have at every meal and every snack.

[00:15:20]>> Yeah. And to get it right throughout the >> Well, and everybody knows all the makers of protein know that it's popular because prices are going up.

[00:15:28]>> Yeah, they really have been for the last few years. And because of the demand, because of knowledge, and because yes, I think because more and more people are using memetic hormones like GLP-1, and they realize, "Okay, I'm going to lose my muscle mass unless I have some protein, and I can have a little shake, and that will give me my meal."

[00:15:45]>> And everything's going up.

[00:15:46]>> Everything is, but you know what? Even Even for us, it's hard to source. We because we started When did we first bring the first Trim Healthy Mama protein, like 10 years ago?

[00:15:56]>> Oh.

[00:15:57]>> I think it was 10 years ago.

[00:15:59]>> I think it was >> So, we have been with the same company the whole time. Let me tell you, if we tried to get in there now, we never could.

[00:16:05]>> no way.

[00:16:06]>> And because you have to be like a long-term customer, prices are rising.

[00:16:11]If you've been with them a long time, they give you a little preference. But, I mean, it's harder and harder to source proteins, even plant protein.

[00:16:20]>> All of it is going up.

[00:16:21]>> plant pro- If our whey protein's going up, you better believe that our sourcing cost is way going up.

[00:16:27]>> I I want to circle back to protein, but something I I've wanted to ask you about is um Did you know that Apple is building perimenopause and menopause tracking in their apps?

[00:16:41]>> Yeah, I only >> Like in their Apple Watch.

[00:16:42]>> heard about it cuz I looked at the show notes, but I know.

[00:16:46]>> Stop talking about the show notes.

[00:16:48]>> know, but listen.

[00:16:49]It's amazing because 5 years ago even >> 10 years ago, there would be no No word was spoken about menopause, perimenopause. You went to your doctor, they were like, "Don't even ask me for hormones." It was like, "No, we don't We don't speak about that, you know? It's going to give you cancer." And then gradually, 5 years ago, more people were talking about it.

[00:17:10]Now, it's so huge.

[00:17:13]I mean, women are tracking it on their phones.

[00:17:15]>> Yeah, but I don't understand it. I think it's gimmicky to me.

[00:17:18]Um, you know, for all those reasons I'm out. You know, that show that that Shark Tank or whatever. Because I'm like, you did not need a tracker. Your body was yelling at you all day long screaming, like I'm desperate and I'm having hot flashes and I can't concentrate and all that stuff. You didn't need a blinking app to tell you you were having symptoms.

[00:17:39]See, I don't know. Like so many people love their Apple Watches. I refuse to wear a monitor for anything. I won't because if the monitor tells me I had bad sleep last night, I'm going to be worried about it all day.

[00:17:49]>> [laughter] >> If the monitor tells me my heart rate's up, you need to calm down, I'm like, oh no, there's something wrong with my heart. You know, so I don't need this monitor to to nag at me and tell me the things that are wrong.

[00:18:00]>> I almost wonder if if see if I would I think personalities are are contingent here because like you're already on the ball.

[00:18:09]>> I'm tuned in, yeah.

[00:18:10]>> But I am so focused on like work and things and I I need a wife to come in and say, "Your children haven't seen you today." You know, like I need monitors.

[00:18:20]I need interruptions.

[00:18:21]>> But can I ask you a question? Like just knowing this all this app is doing for you is just reminding you that you're having these issues, right? But what we need is we need treatment. We need ideas. We need hacks. We need wisdom. We need knowledge. We We don't just need to know about symptom. What do we do about these symptoms? That's what I feel like needs to be the message.

[00:18:45]>> Well, I think a lot of people though they're not going to do anything.

[00:18:48]They're just going to be like, "Oh, I bet I'm I bet I have menopause." Or but when you got something going ding, "You have menopause, sister." Like >> They might be more apt to go do something.

[00:18:59]>> That's what I want That's what I think.

[00:19:00]That they would be that way for me. Not that I will ever have menopause, I don't think.

[00:19:05]>> once you do once you do start treatment, you know, you get on bioidentical hormones for those of us who choose to do that.

[00:19:13]Things happen. Some things happen fast, some things happen slowly. Things probably are never quite perfect cuz we live in human bodies that are never perfect. I I say better and better. For me, I feel like I'm getting better and better. But if I analyze everything that happens to me in the day, I'm going to be in a world of >> Yeah.

[00:19:31]>> thinking about symptoms. Where I want to be a world of my body's doing great. I don't have to be perfect, but I'm on the track to health.

[00:19:38]>> Yeah. What I meant with my >> my comment before was I feel like a lot of mental gymnastics and needless emotional turmoil about the symptom. Can we use that brain space for something that's actually changing this situation?

[00:19:50]I think that's what I'm trying to say.

[00:19:51]>> But having said that, I'm not saying you shouldn't wear an Apple Watch to bed and monitor all that. Some people do well with it.

[00:19:57]>> Yeah.

[00:19:57]>> I just don't want it.

[00:19:59]>> You don't do Apple Watches either.

[00:20:01]>> I don't even do watches.

[00:20:03]>> You ought to do a watch.

[00:20:05]>> No. I just It's something I have to take off for the shower.

[00:20:08]>> really fitter and better because of these Apple Watches? Are they? I don't know. I don't know. What do you think?

[00:20:13]What Dan's looking over there.

[00:20:14]>> I I don't >> You wear one?

[00:20:17]>> Uh before mine died, yes.

[00:20:19]>> You You like it? Mike wears one. Mike, does it make you fitter? Better? No.

[00:20:24]Okay. You don't wear one, Nate.

[00:20:26]>> I think not a chance.

[00:20:27]>> I'm going to I'm going to tell Dan's talking to us. I'm going to say what he says.

[00:20:31]>> Tell us what Dan says.

[00:20:32]>> Yes.

[00:20:33]>> Sometimes it's important because what gets measured gets managed. And so you kind of need to measure something. And if that's what you're using, then great.

[00:20:42]But there's many different ways to measure health.

[00:20:43]>> He's like, what gets measured gets managed.

[00:20:47]>> power host uh talk right there. I like that.

[00:20:50]>> off his seat sometimes.

[00:20:51]>> He's got it. He can have it.

[00:20:52]>> What gets measured gets managed. That's the perfect world, right? And I think for some people it might happen.

[00:20:58]>> You see, I go for a walk every day.

[00:20:59]>> Yeah.

[00:21:00]>> Uh and I get in the gym three times a week now. I've just sustainably lowered that a little a little But I don't do that because a watch has gone ding. No, I don't need that. You know?

[00:21:11]But, we're all different personalities, right?

[00:21:13]>> so true.

[00:21:14]>> Yeah.

[00:21:14]>> I think I need the dings.

[00:21:16]>> Yeah, you need the dings.

[00:21:17]>> do it.

[00:21:18]>> [laughter] >> Yeah.

[00:21:19]>> But, who does it? Dan said he'll do it with a ding. Mike said no. Why do you wear it if you're not doing it, Mike?

[00:21:26]>> do you wear it, Mike?

[00:21:27]>> For notifications.

[00:21:28]>> Yeah, I was going to say that's probably the main reason people wear it.

[00:21:31]>> No, it's just like your it transfers your phone to to right here. You can just check >> So, you're not doing it for the health aspect.

[00:21:38]>> Yeah, I think most it's a convenience technology tool to not to just leave your phone in your pocket next to your ovaries and your testicles.

[00:21:45]>> right, right. It's so true.

[00:21:47]>> That's what we're doing. Mine are there now. I'm done.

[00:21:51]I can't reproduce.

[00:21:52]Keep it in my left pocket. Sometimes I rotate to the right pocket. Do you ever do that?

[00:21:56]>> part of the testicle some damage. So, you're not lopsided >> [laughter] >> evening out the damage >> And then I'll switch to like the back pocket when I can. I'm like, well, there's >> some damage.

[00:22:05]>> Well, I'm like, there's plenty of butt fat there. I can't It won't make it to the vital organs.

[00:22:09]>> Is there? Not that I'm wanting to think about it, but I don't think there's a lot of butt fat there.

[00:22:13]>> Hey, there might [laughter] be.

[00:22:16]Maybe it Maybe it's Maybe it's where I like it.

[00:22:19]>> Maybe it's plump.

[00:22:21]>> Maybe I get compliments from my wife.

[00:22:23]>> [laughter] >> Maybe she's noticed something that she didn't before.

[00:22:27]>> Maybe.

[00:22:28]>> Bert and Ernie?

[00:22:31]>> He's calling Bert and Ernie Dan and Nate sitting over there and they do look very Bert >> going to say, I just listen to my physical cues, like >> There's someone talking without a mic.

[00:22:39]>> Yeah.

[00:22:40]>> What is this podcast?

[00:22:42]Nate says he listens to his physical cues.

[00:22:44]>> Physical cues.

[00:22:45]>> See, I don't listen to my physical cues.

[00:22:47]I just tell myself I'm going to work out today.

[00:22:49]>> He said I feel better when I work out.

[00:22:51]Who doesn't, right?

[00:22:52]>> My body doesn't No, it's all a schedule in my brain and I don't have a written schedule. It's just Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays I'm in the gym. If I miss one of those, I put it in another day.

[00:23:02]It's just going to happen. It's just not going to change.

[00:23:05]>> Yeah.

[00:23:06]>> And then I walk on the other days just cuz that's life and that's love. That's just like what you do.

[00:23:10]>> to walk, man.

[00:23:11]>> I'm not an Apple Watch guy. I like the timeless thing, you know?

[00:23:14]>> Yeah, it's so much It's so classic, Danny.

[00:23:15]>> I like a classic thing. Um >> it says something good >> Do you know what I want to do?

[00:23:19]>> What?

[00:23:19]>> I want to go rolie.

[00:23:21]>> A Rolex?

[00:23:22]>> Yeah, my husband has a Rolex. He never wears it though. It's in a safe to pass along to the grandchildren. He's collected all kinds of high-end watches.

[00:23:29]>> Yes.

[00:23:30]>> Never will wear them.

[00:23:31]>> Yes.

[00:23:32]>> And I keep saying, "Why do you buy this expensive watch that he really studies which one he's going to buy and he sets aside money?"

[00:23:39]>> Well, he wants them to wear it or he wants them to hold it in a safe to for the next generation.

[00:23:43]>> [laughter] >> No, these and these they increase in value and >> Yes, they tell us it's an investment.

[00:23:48]>> Yeah, and they have uh they're little magical devices. You know, they have a crystal in them that's powered by movement.

[00:23:55]>> Yeah.

[00:23:55]>> They don't take a battery.

[00:23:56]>> Do you know what? Not that this is even affecting health of people, but when we went to Zermatt, Switzerland uh recently on our anniversary trip >> You and your husband?

[00:24:05]>> Yes.

[00:24:05]>> Not me and you.

[00:24:06]>> No. Um there was We went window shopping.

[00:24:09]>> Yeah.

[00:24:10]>> There was watches that were like 500,000 bucks in the window, things like that.

[00:24:14]Crazy.

[00:24:15]>> Yeah, there was a lot >> us back to the health, Dan. Where are we up to?

[00:24:18]>> I'm going to get us back to the T H M product spotlight of the week.

[00:24:22]>> Yeah.

[00:24:24]>> That's our music. Um right here, uh optimized chocolate whey protein.

[00:24:30]Now whey better.

[00:24:32]>> Is that what we said?

[00:24:33]>> Unfortunately.

[00:24:34]>> We were really corny, weren't we?

[00:24:36]>> Yeah, you guys really just >> what we did? Now whey better, is that what we said?

[00:24:40]>> It's like a field of corn planted out in the >> Yeah, we did it. Look at that.

[00:24:45]>> Hey, it's more absorbable protein than whey alone. It has >> We were younger back then, weren't we?

[00:24:50]We thought that that was cool.

[00:24:52]>> Three gra- Oh, and this is really you.

[00:24:53]No S on grams. Three gram bolus of leucine.

[00:24:56]>> No, that's right. You don't say 3 g bolus.

[00:24:59]>> You wouldn't?

[00:25:00]Cuz bolus is plural?

[00:25:01]>> Three Yeah, 3 g bolus.

[00:25:04]>> Is bolus plural?

[00:25:05]>> No, it's not.

[00:25:07]>> Shoot.

[00:25:09]>> Anyway, >> know. I don't know grammar. I'm pretending I do.

[00:25:12]>> Yeah, you really are.

[00:25:13]>> But I don't.

[00:25:14]>> Hey, we meant to be spotlighting the glory of this stuff.

[00:25:16]>> Yeah, guess what they use these part this part of our podcast >> Yeah.

[00:25:20]>> is to go on a little snippet, you know, where they put us on Instagram where we really selling this and we just ruined it.

[00:25:26]Okay, Mike's telling me get closer to my mic.

[00:25:28]>> Even though we could being we were corny with saying now way better, it is way better than any other way on the market.

[00:25:34]>> This is the best protein I've ever put in my tonsils.

[00:25:40]>> Well, why did why did we optimize regular whey protein? As Serena and I said, 10 years ago we started passing whey protein along to women. We were like the first people doing it.

[00:25:50]>> Mhm.

[00:25:50]>> And then we went and optimized it. Why did we optimize it? Well, the reason is it's because most scoops of whey are like 20 g of protein. We need We need 25 to 30 g, but then if you're a sedentary and but you're behind your desk and you're a woman who hasn't built big muscle cupboards, not big manly things, but just open hungry metabolically fired up cupboards of muscle tissue, then you're you they're not going to open up and say, "Yes, I have plenty of room. I can bring in all that whey."

[00:26:19]>> Yeah.

[00:26:19]>> It was It was kind of a a high caloric way of getting protein in for people that weren't quite ready and we um through the wisdom book we're trying to help women in perimenopause and menopause gain strength, gain muscle tissue without getting heavy before they built the muscle.

[00:26:36]>> And I think adding leucine, leucine is the muscle boss. It just makes your muscles open up to receive the whey without using so much of your insulin pathway.

[00:26:45]>> And we have glycine in here, which is is like helps the muscle open. It helps with the delivery system. I >> want to go back to whey itself. We also, you know, carry regular whey protein.

[00:26:55]We're still pro that. I still use it.

[00:26:58]>> eat the plain one.

[00:26:59]>> But if you want something yummy, but also that you don't have to do scoop after scoop to get off all your protein, it's just a small amount. It's just 4 Tbsp, and it's easily 30 g of protein, easily.

[00:27:11]>> Why would I get the old one versus this optimized one?

[00:27:14]>> Well, some people The old one is plain, has no flavor. If you want something yummy, you buy this chocolate or vanilla or strawberry. It's delicious.

[00:27:20]>> Yeah.

[00:27:20]>> And with the added everything in here, this one's a just a little more pricey than regular. So >> Okay. So some people say I just >> Well, I do regular cuz I hate sweet.

[00:27:27]>> Yeah, she doesn't like anything sweet.

[00:27:29]>> just do it plain. Just plain, straight.

[00:27:31]>> What And what's sweetening this?

[00:27:33]>> This is allulose and stevia.

[00:27:35]>> Oh, nice.

[00:27:36]Not gut busting?

[00:27:38]>> No, not gut busting.

[00:27:39]>> I never get the rumblies in my tummy.

[00:27:42]>> Yeah, that that evens out the flavor.

[00:27:44]>> Just for flavor?

[00:27:45]>> Yeah.

[00:27:45]>> See, salt, I've been getting into salt lately. I'm It's so difficult to do every time, but I've been adding salt to my water, salt and stevia. I'll add THM mineral salt, um which is the best mineral salt I've ever had. Soft plug.

[00:28:01]Um and the and the stevia. Do you know you were out of stevia um when I tried to get it last. You're I know you're in stock now, right?

[00:28:10]>> Yeah, we're in stock.

[00:28:11]>> Yeah, but but this this was months ago.

[00:28:13]And um I ended up getting a store-bought stevia, and I was reminded there's something that Okay, so I froth I use a frother to froth up your stevia into green tea.

[00:28:24]>> Okay.

[00:28:25]>> It creates a very special thick froth, and I can't get it with other stevias.

[00:28:32]And I don't I've wanted to >> Are they more bitter?

[00:28:34]>> Are there other stevias? No, they're just different. They They're to me, I'm not This may sound like hype, I don't care. It tastes a little more chemically to me.

[00:28:42]>> Okay.

[00:28:43]>> Yeah.

[00:28:44]>> Yours tastes like like powdery, like almost like um Like I want to sprinkle it on a powdered donut or something. You know, like it's like it tastes like a proper sweetener.

[00:28:54]Like it doesn't feel like some health product.

[00:28:55]>> though. If you taste it, Justin, you would you can't do it just like just like that cuz it's so strong.

[00:29:00]>> pure, yeah. I love it.

[00:29:02]>> Yeah.

[00:29:03]We're supposed to be selling whey, but we're selling >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, but uh but the salt so I've been drinking salt water. Also, I'll put stevia salt in in water and typically and lemon.

[00:29:13]>> Oh, nice. Yeah.

[00:29:13]>> So I'm making sense to me now. Yeah.

[00:29:16]>> The lemon made it all make sense.

[00:29:18]>> Yeah, and I think okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you know the old people they'd make like some hot toddy health potion when you're sick. Well, when I make this drink >> like how old? Like me? Like I'm 55. Like I don't know >> Yeah, deep old, like 55. Close to death.

[00:29:35]>> people, yeah.

[00:29:35]>> Close to your final years.

[00:29:37]>> Okay.

[00:29:37]>> [laughter] >> Um what y'all would do back in the day is they'd take hot water and and they'd make these like get-well toddies, right?

[00:29:47]>> Yeah.

[00:29:47]>> So, if you take hot water, like a little bit of hot water, and you do my concoction with salt and lemon >> Pinch.

[00:29:55]>> and stevia I'd I'd do a tiny bit now. I was going heavy and then I read, "Okay, you might be going too heavy." Cuz you you can do it to where you almost don't taste it and it's still >> Yeah.

[00:30:04]>> because the salt makes water hydrating, right?

[00:30:06]>> Yes, it does.

[00:30:07]>> Okay, so and our water coming out of our refrigerators, I have long felt are not hydrating. So I've been adding THM products to not only make them hydrating but if you don't fill it up and you keep that concentrate >> and it's hot and you've mixed all these potions in and you sip it it it is like one of those Indian tonics that they give the man in the desert >> [laughter] >> when he's dying, you know, and then he sips it and he's like, "Ugh." And it's so horrible, but it brings him back to life.

[00:30:36]>> [laughter] >> You can make that with your product.

[00:30:38]That's what I'm saying.

[00:30:39]>> horrible?

[00:30:40]>> Get it now at THM Whey It's probably the best value.

[00:30:47]>> you back to life.

[00:30:48]>> [laughter] >> So, this uh little segue into into hot toddies with some of your other product.

[00:30:53]This the salt is what made me think of that.

[00:30:55]>> else happens? If you go and get another like chocolate whey protein and it's not optimized, here's what happens. Your protein goes down. See, we actually took protein up with this. Like let's say any chocolate whey protein on the market.

[00:31:08]You happen to do a bigger scoop, which is more calories. Cuz no one has done this because every time you put you got to put the chocolate in there. You got to put some cocoa. You got to put the sweetener. This is taking up room. You got and so and so your protein is going down.

[00:31:20]>> to 30 g, you have to do a scoop and a half or or more.

[00:31:24]>> Yep.

[00:31:24]>> So, instead of that, we actually only four tablespoons, we still have all the sweetener in there. We still have the chocolate in there. We still have the flavor system.

[00:31:34]>> the protein into our bloodstream.

[00:31:36]>> So, I don't know. Tell me who else has done this. Nobody.

[00:31:38]>> No one. They're going to.

[00:31:40]>> I know. We just told them how to do it.

[00:31:42]>> Do you know I attribute um the THM movement to like the whole world getting healthy. I could be wrong. But but from my experience, nobody was talking about nothing. And then this came.

[00:31:56]I mean some people It was all obscure.

[00:31:58]It was all in like forums and and things, right? Like it wasn't every morning show. Morning shows weren't talking about protein.

[00:32:05]And I think you did something. That's my belief.

[00:32:07]>> Dan. I mean, we did we were talking about protein before all this were, but you the bros have always been talking about protein. Serene and I learned a lot of THM from the bro forum cuz we're Christian pastors kids, right? And we lurked on the bro sites cuz they knew a lot about hormones.

[00:32:22]>> That's so interesting.

[00:32:23]>> to cycle them. They knew like how to cut and build and do all of this this manipulation to the body. So, it was all harsh stuff. This is about 17 years ago before we were streaming, right? So, we would go on actual old school forums.

[00:32:38]You know, we had to type in your email and >> And you have fake fake names. We had fake names.

[00:32:42]>> names and we were bros. We were lifting bros.

[00:32:44]>> then we would when we talked to each other, we'd throw in a few ARS.

[00:32:47]>> ARS talk. Yeah, we called it ARS talk cuz we're on the boards all day learning about protein. This is why we're being so protein-centric.

[00:32:54]>> Yeah.

[00:32:55]>> Because we learned it off the bro forums.

[00:32:58]>> That's bro-tastic.

[00:32:59]>> I know.

[00:33:01]>> Well, uh real quick before we move to our poll. We had we took a poll on this, but what are some of your favorite recipes?

[00:33:09]You don't have to teach us all the thing how to cook it, but what what how are you using these proteins?

[00:33:14]>> How am I using the chocolate whey protein?

[00:33:17]Um I do use some vanilla, but I'll tell you how I use the chocolate. It's my chocolate milk with my lunch. I love a chocolate milk with my lunch. I actually love to add cuz I'll already have some protein with my lunch usually. Let's just say I'm having turkey breast on my sandwich or whatever. I will put only 2 Tbsp of that, two to three, in a glass of almond milk. Then I'll add You don't have to. It's just perfect like that, but I'll add a little more salt cuz I love a rounded salt taste. And I'll add a little bit of dark cocoa to make it really chocolatey. Maybe a little more sweetener. I sometimes I just do it straight, but sometimes I love to really enhance it all up and I love that chocolate milk. I also put it in my coffee, hot coffee, make a latte. So I steam it. I put some of that in some milk and then I just steam it up and then I put it in my coffee and it's >> Bring back the treats.

[00:34:09]>> Latte-ish. And I for for my husband cuz you know, he's on a GLP-1 and I love to give him this liquid protein throughout the day. And he loves the chocolate milk. I used to do it with unsweetened almond milk, but he loves real milk. And now he's at goal weight. So I do half the whole raw milk we have A2 from the farm down the road, half, and then half water.

[00:34:28]>> Oh, nice.

[00:34:29]>> it's very healthy skim milk. Then with the full 4 Tbsp of that, and then whiz, whiz with a hand blender, add ice, and he doesn't even know I half it with water.

[00:34:39]>> Hold on. So, this isn't a drink. This isn't a drink.

[00:34:43]>> It's just chocolate milk, but I do the A2, like really healthy raw cow's milk.

[00:34:46]>> The whey is making it more creamy.

[00:34:47]>> Yeah, and then I half it. I just do half a cup of that and half a cup plain good water from our uh >> is it? Cuz that would be quite sweet if it Is it a big glass?

[00:34:56]>> Yeah, because you add the ice and all that kind of It's really I maybe I don't measure, like half cup, half cup, but I half the water with the with the milk.

[00:35:03]>> nice.

[00:35:03]>> He loves it. And then I love to add these chocolate ways to kefir and things like that, and to yogurt bowls, but >> I put them in yogurt bowls.

[00:35:10]>> The strawberry one is incredible in the yogurt bowls, but what I love to do is get little zippies, little tiny zippies, the small, small little zippies that you put candy in in children's stockings.

[00:35:21]And then I'll put 2 Tbsp of chocolate whey, 2 Tbsp of the play play >> [laughter] >> the plain the plain whey, and sometimes I'll put a teaspoon of creatine in there. Whey there, but sometimes not. And then I'll just make these little tiny zippies, keep them in a drawer in my kitchen.

[00:35:34]When I'm running out the door, I throw a few zippies in my purse, because where am I going to be? I might be anywhere and stuck in traffic and not getting home and getting hangry, and I'm missing my protein synth, you know, synthesized muscle tissue window. So, I just You always have a bottle of water in your car, right? I just pour in one of these little zippies of protein, make it a little spout so I can pour it in my water bottle, shake it up. You've tasted it, you love it. The reason why I half it with the plain whey is I don't like it too sweet, and I find just the half of each is just perfect.

[00:36:03]>> Yeah, but you I do that as shots. Like, if I realize, okay, I have to go out, I need my protein, I'll do that. It's a yummy chocolate shot, but I'll do um like two rounded Tbsp of plain and one heaped, very heaped of the chocolate, so it's probably like two. It's the same thing.

[00:36:19]>> Yeah, and if you travel a lot, like I always bring it when I go traveling on a plane in the airport. Food is so expensive at the airport, and then when they you're on a plane and you're starved and they bring by pretzels or, you know, um something chocolate coated something or other.

[00:36:35]>> cookies. Pretzels >> There's no choices and none of it is protein. None of it. And so I just asked for plain water and I just shake up my protein and I feel fantastic. It's they should have >> That's my Here Here it's confession time. That's my guilty pleasure is plain cookies.

[00:36:50]>> Oh, you love the plain cookies.

[00:36:52]>> I want the plain cookies [laughter] and I want their coffee. Uh specifically Southwest.

[00:36:57]>> Yeah.

[00:36:57]>> The Southwest coffee.

[00:36:59]>> It's instant percolated junk.

[00:37:01]>> No, it's special, man.

[00:37:02]>> does Starbucks.

[00:37:04]>> Something special about uh >> And you're in first class. They don't give it to the peons at the back like you.

[00:37:08]>> in first Only when I travel with Charlie. When I'm with you, I'm in the back of the plane.

[00:37:12]>> so rich now, she rides with the pilot.

[00:37:14]>> goes past the the first class Her husband likes to travel in style, right?

[00:37:20]>> So when she walks past the first class people when she's with me cuz I will never pay for first class tickets. We've got too many children to feed. She's like waving to them like She's waving to them like >> Like I'm really you. I really you [laughter] normally sit with you.

[00:37:34]>> actually with her. I should be here with you.

[00:37:37]>> She really has this longing look that she's missing her crowd.

[00:37:40]>> No, I actually love it. I only Charlie will not handle chaos. He will not He'd rather not going anywhere. So he doesn't handle chaos. So he's like if we go, I'm going to do business. So I'll I'll sit with him.

[00:37:52]But I can I can do a good back of the plane. I can like get slum it with Serene.

[00:37:58]>> Somehow I don't just get normal back of the plane. I get the last seat where you cannot even put it back 2 in. Like you know how you can normally put your seat back 2 in.

[00:38:05]>> the wall behind you.

[00:38:06]>> got the wall. You're sitting up like this and my husband's 6 ft 6 and he's there next to me cuz you know, he's cheap like that, too, you know.

[00:38:12]>> hear everyone in the toilet.

[00:38:13]>> Yeah. Yes.

[00:38:14]>> Fidgeting.

[00:38:15]>> Yes.

[00:38:16]>> Do you know what I can't do anymore?

[00:38:18]I um Do you know the scene in uh uh Cast Away where he's like peeling his Band-Aid off in the plane bathroom?

[00:38:29]>> He's in the plane bathroom and he's like in the mirror and he's getting ready and he slowly he's he's cut his finger and he's like peeling this Band-Aid off and and you as the viewer are so focused on like "Ooh, that looks like it's going to hurt." And just then the door sucks open and the whole plane's going down. Every time I'm in a plane bathroom the plane the door's getting sucked open at any second. It but it's he >> if he had chocolate whey in his zippy bag in his pocket >> be more optimistic.

[00:38:56]>> None of that would have happened.

[00:38:56]>> No, that's true.

[00:38:57]>> He would have been out of a hole on for dear life and not be sucked out there.

[00:39:00]>> that that Pearl is the orphan who became a queen and now like identifies with the people, the commoners on the as you walk past them.

[00:39:09]>> Oh.

[00:39:09]>> Or as I walk past you.

[00:39:10]>> No, no, I identify with the first class people.

[00:39:14]>> Oh, my bad.

[00:39:15]>> Yeah, you got that wrong. I walked to the end of the plane with Serene.

[00:39:18]>> You're just a snob.

[00:39:19]>> But I don't feel that these are my people.

[00:39:21]>> [laughter] >> Oh, yeah.

[00:39:25]>> that I'm passing, they're already working, producing >> Yes, they have their laptops open and they're you know, they just continuing on.

[00:39:31]>> of dollars every few seconds. No, those are my people.

[00:39:34]>> That's you. You >> My people at the back, they're just really struggling to put all of their five extra bags like in all of the places and they're shuffling around.

[00:39:42]They won't get their bum in their seat.

[00:39:44]>> Do you When people when the when the commoners pass you as you sit in first class, do you make eye contact or >> I see, I love to be a generous first class person. I love to be generous with my stare, with my smile.

[00:39:57]>> You agree. You agree.

[00:39:58]>> not look at them. I want to be like I could be like you next time when I travel with my sister, so I'm going to be benevolent.

[00:40:04]>> Okay.

[00:40:05]>> [laughter] >> benevolent >> You feel a warm heart towards them.

[00:40:08]>> Yes.

[00:40:08]>> Do you ever Do you ever nod and I mean do you interact?

[00:40:11]>> kind. I'm a kind first class >> them kind eyes.

[00:40:14]>> a look. I want them to look in my eyes.

[00:40:16]See, we're totally off of topic in this whole podcast is ruined and we've said nothing about you. I would like to say this.

[00:40:22]What is with that mesh little curtain between first class?

[00:40:25]>> that mesh curtain.

[00:40:26]>> Like it's really stopping the germs.

[00:40:28]>> No, it keeps >> poor people from running into the rich people of the first class bathroom.

[00:40:33]>> Yeah, it makes >> How dare you?

[00:40:34]>> It keeps the stench from our bathroom from yours.

[00:40:36]>> No, you see you.

[00:40:38]>> It doesn't. It has 4 in on either side where it's just straight air and then mesh.

[00:40:42]>> This is you commoners. You want to come up to the first class bathroom through the mesh.

[00:40:46]>> Yeah.

[00:40:46]>> The mesh is to keep you out so the first class >> And they're keeping me out.

[00:40:50]>> can keep it nice.

[00:40:51]>> mental line of demarcation. You're back there, we're up here.

[00:40:55]>> they they think they're classy? They try to come through the mesh. I will be benevolent with you if you stay. I'm just joking.

[00:41:01]Um >> No, I'm I'm not joking. When I finally make it to first class, I'm a I'm a couple weeks away, okay? But when I get there >> When your oil deals come through?

[00:41:10]>> I'm going to be impossible.

[00:41:12]>> [laughter] >> I'm going to be impossible. I'm going to sit I'm going to cross with an educated cross.

[00:41:17]>> are.

[00:41:17]>> I'm going to read something and when people pass, I'm going to look up and go >> [laughter] >> It'll be subtle.

[00:41:22]>> How dare you even touch my shoulder?

[00:41:24]>> just it'll just be like >> [clears throat] [laughter] >> It's not showing the love of the Lord, Danny.

[00:41:30]>> No, I I save that for my kids.

[00:41:32]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, these people they'll eat me if they had the chance.

[00:41:37]>> Oh my goodness.

[00:41:38]>> Whole question.

[00:41:40]>> [laughter] >> We took a poll on protein. Um Protein prices are rising so we're asking people, you know, where do you get your protein? What do you What do you spend your your money on, right? Um by the way, are these uh percentages or numbers of people?

[00:41:58]>> Numbers.

[00:41:59]>> Okay, so these are numbers. We So, we asked it looks like around 200. Um Uh what are your go-to sources of protein? Okay.

[00:42:09]Um What what What's your guess on on top?

[00:42:12]>> This is Whole Foods sources. This isn't supplements, right?

[00:42:15]>> Uh no, this is blanket. Where do you get protein? What are your go-to sources of protein? What what's your top guess?

[00:42:23]>> Chicken.

[00:42:24]>> Okay.

[00:42:26]>> Yeah, beef.

[00:42:27]>> [snorts] >> All right. So, I'll start at the bottom.

[00:42:31]Plant-based proteins, like so like beans, lentils, tofu are plant-based proteins.

[00:42:36]Uh five people.

[00:42:38]>> Yeah, well, that's probably good because we can delete those, but they're not really the best source of protein.

[00:42:42]>> go-to? Five people is their go-to.

[00:42:44]>> Oh, that's their go-to.

[00:42:46]>> Yeah.

[00:42:46]>> Okay, they're on a tight budget. I used to feed my children lentils every day for protein cuz it's cheap.

[00:42:51]>> Next, and this one's uh heartbreaking cuz it's my favorite.

[00:42:55]>> Oh, it's down. It's it's it's second to bottom.

[00:42:58]>> It's only 14. Yeah, second to bottom.

[00:43:00]>> Fish or seafood. Yeah.

[00:43:03]>> Now, see, I love it, but this is the problem. I would eat it every night if it's just me and my husband, but it doesn't go for big large families. It just makes a lot of smell.

[00:43:12]>> Oh.

[00:43:13]>> Oh, what are you doing?

[00:43:14]>> eat from frozen.

[00:43:15]>> It's too hard to feed children fillets, but you can do canned salmon. You can make salmon patties. Salmon stinks.

[00:43:21]>> No, I love salmon patties.

[00:43:22]>> Yeah.

[00:43:23]>> I like a I like a a scent of the sea in my home.

[00:43:25]>> Yeah, but it's fresh fillet scent of one or two fillets cooking.

[00:43:30]>> Yeah.

[00:43:30]>> That's nice. 16 fillets baking that were frozen from Walmart in the oven.

[00:43:35]>> Just like hot thigh.

[00:43:36]>> Just just really bad cheap seafood restaurant.

[00:43:40]>> Yeah.

[00:43:41]>> Okay, but you can do cans of I eat a lot of pouches of tuna.

[00:43:44]>> I don't like tuna anymore. I used to love it, and now for some reason >> Sorry for you. I'm saying fish is probably my number one.

[00:43:50]>> I know.

[00:43:51]>> Fish is number one up there with chicken.

[00:43:52]>> any children you're cooking for anymore.

[00:43:54]>> No, so I'm not. So, I'll be cooking salmon for just me at least three times a week, and I'll try and give it to Charlie one time a week. So, at least three. I'm probably having counting in my tuna, I'm having it six times. I had >> night, and I'm having it again tonight, seven.

[00:44:08]>> Well, there you go.

[00:44:09]>> Next up on the list, I thought this would be number one.

[00:44:12]It's third from the bottom.

[00:44:13]>> What is it?

[00:44:14]>> Eggs or egg whites.

[00:44:16]>> Oh, eggs are huge for me.

[00:44:17]>> that was top I thought everyone would just pick eggs and almost >> Yeah, if there's if I've just come home late from work and it's just like there's no food you just have breakfast for dinner. Eggs on toast.

[00:44:28]>> You know guess what? I think I know why this is happening. These are Trim Healthy Mamas we talked to. If they're having anything else for breakfast like oatmeal, whatever quinoa, maybe Trim Healthy pancakes they don't think of eggs so much for lunch and dinners so they're not having as many unless they have them for breakfast.

[00:44:46]>> Yeah, but this is not saying for dinner.

[00:44:47]This is saying what you go to >> know but overall let's just say you're having oatmeal for breakfast then because of that >> Oh, okay. You're halving your opportunity.

[00:44:56]>> Get it.

[00:44:57]>> They're thinking I'm not going to have a bulletproof >> We're all slow on the go today.

[00:44:59]>> I'm not. I'm very fast.

[00:45:01]>> Good for you.

[00:45:01]>> [laughter] >> And I sit in first class sometimes.

[00:45:06]>> Uh that was >> Actually, I was telling Pearl her dress color against this teal couch is like an airline hostess color coordination. They put these kind of bright blues with these kind of peacock peacock.

[00:45:19]>> Yeah.

[00:45:21]>> My daughter Meadow gave me this dress.

[00:45:22]I'm wearing it honor of her. She's moved back into my house.

[00:45:27]>> She's still married just so it makes it makes you like she's moved into the house her and her three children.

[00:45:31]>> Okay, so >> I heard that too. I was I was going to go deep >> This podcast is offering not too much anyway. Um just here and there.

[00:45:39]>> it.

[00:45:40]>> So I had my son Bowen and Kahurangi's wife and their three children lived with us for nine months while they built the house.

[00:45:48]And then it was beautiful, such wonderful time. They moved out for two weeks so Charlie and I were empty nesters for two weeks, right?

[00:45:55]>> But this is funny. After they married their youngest child off in the fall immediately they were so excited to be empty nesters.

[00:46:02]>> They were empty nesters for days.

[00:46:03]Immediately their their son and daughter-in-law and children moved in.

[00:46:06]>> got 2 weeks and then Meadow moves back from Japan, her husband Kendall, their three children. They're like, "We're building a house, too, Mom, Dad. Can we come stay?" So, we're going to have them for a year and so they're So, no no empty nesting, but it's fun. It's so fun.

[00:46:19]>> Your house is the spot when someone builds a house.

[00:46:22]>> compared to hers now.

[00:46:23]>> That's why. That's why.

[00:46:24]>> Cuz these grandchildren are And then all the grandchildren come every day on the hilltop to my house because they cousins want to be with cousins, but it's so fun.

[00:46:32]>> That's so fun.

[00:46:33]>> not empty nesting.

[00:46:34]>> That was your vision, though. You guys built a house and a property cuz you want big family.

[00:46:38]>> now we have to go away to be to get our quiet.

[00:46:41]>> Yeah, yeah. See now, that's a fun trip.

[00:46:44]>> cruise ship, the loudest party boat.

[00:46:46]>> Yeah, but we had a nice quiet balcony room, so it was all good.

[00:46:49]>> All right, that was 36. Uh next on the list moving up towards the number >> all about the poll.

[00:46:54]>> What poll?

[00:46:55]>> [laughter] >> so I did a whole story about myself inside the poll.

[00:47:00]>> In the poll?

[00:47:01]>> We need to have like We were once, people. New people in the room, we were once the top nutrition party for when?

[00:47:10]2000 what?

[00:47:11]>> 2018. 2018. We'll never forget the year.

[00:47:15]Golly, I tell people that every now and then. I'll be like checking out at Walmart. I'm like, >> [laughter] >> "You know, well, the reason the reason I know the reason I know and why I'm buying this and you can tell you, I actually hosted the number one health podcast, yeah. Yeah, it beat Rich Roll.

[00:47:31]>> Yeah, it's 2018. When was it? 2018? You just mumbled that.

[00:47:36]>> Yeah.

[00:47:37]>> 2018.

[00:47:38]>> Yeah. [laughter] Now I'm >> That was 8 years ago. That was our glory year.

[00:47:43]>> Now I think we're Now I think we're 637th.

[00:47:47]>> Guess what? Back then there wasn't many podcasts.

[00:47:51]>> No, there was.

[00:47:52]>> Hey, we were top of the game of many, not the top of two. Come on, make the story good.

[00:47:56]>> a lot.

[00:47:57]>> All right, go to the next. Let's finish the poll.

[00:47:59]>> Next up on the poll, 44 people said protein powder was was their pick. And coming in at first place >> Okay.

[00:48:08]>> beef. Yeah, meat or poultry.

[00:48:11]>> Yeah.

[00:48:11]>> Which is what you guessed.

[00:48:12]>> Okay. Do you like chicken? Love.

[00:48:15]I don't love chicken.

[00:48:17]>> I What do you love about chicken?

[00:48:20]>> I love fish when I'm cooking it for just my husband and >> on. Hold on.

[00:48:22]>> I love fish, I love eggs, I love kefir, I love raw dairy. And you like protein powder.

[00:48:27]>> And I love protein powder.

[00:48:28]>> I don't love chicken, I love barbecue sauce.

[00:48:30]>> beef a lot. I do grass-fed beef a lot.

[00:48:33]And I do like it. But chicken is >> Is that fair?

[00:48:36]Nobody loves chicken. Boil a chicken and eat it.

[00:48:39]>> No, people, listen. You have to be >> chicken?

[00:48:42]No, no, no seasoning. Cuz you don't love chicken.

[00:48:44]>> Once again, we're having an argument with someone off mic.

[00:48:48]>> Dan agrees with me. We don't love chicken.

[00:48:52]No one loves chicken. Boil a chicken, no salt. Just boil the chicken.

[00:48:56]>> itself, you have to do stuff to it.

[00:48:58]Agree?

[00:48:58]>> Tragic. Beef's not that way.

[00:49:00]>> Beef is pretty bad by itself. It's way better. I've had a plain burger done on a barbecue, not added salt yet. It's pretty gutty. It's pretty bad.

[00:49:07]>> Add salt to beef, heaven. Salt and pepper. Add salt and pepper to chicken, I mean, it's just >> Okay, here's what you need to do, people. You need to become a drive-thru Sue like me. Every week I buy a rotisserie chicken.

[00:49:18]>> Oh, see, that's too salty for me. That's too salty.

[00:49:21]>> even salty enough. I take it home.

[00:49:23]Here's what I do.

[00:49:24]>> Skinny little thing.

[00:49:25]>> what I'll tell you, people. Do you know what? Do you know how I live my life?

[00:49:28]>> How do you live your life?

[00:49:29]>> Still a drive-thru Sue. Queen, um, first class Sue.

[00:49:32]>> for like three meals, okay?

[00:49:33]>> Queen Southwest.

[00:49:34]>> Yes.

[00:49:35]>> No, Southwest doesn't have first class.

[00:49:38]>> You just need a little bit of red, this blue, red, and the pico.

[00:49:41]>> Queen American. You're like a '50s American.

[00:49:44]>> Yes.

[00:49:45]>> Like sashaying into first class.

[00:49:46]>> to help the podcast here?

[00:49:48]>> Try.

[00:49:48]>> Bring my It's done. There's no help.

[00:49:50]>> Bring my rotisserie chicken home. That night, I cut off like I'll cut off the leg is what they call it cuz I don't like the leg and the thigh. Now, that will be Charlie's piece. He's getting two pieces. And I take that Creole seasoning. What is it? Tony Tony Chachere's? Yeah.

[00:50:06]Put it all over, then put it in a pan with a little bit of butter. And then I get it seasoned and crispy. So, it's not rotisserie chicken anymore.

[00:50:14]It is like It's not It's just a little bit of butter because of the seasoning it's like fried chicken.

[00:50:20]>> Is this like Walmart butter or like Kerrygold?

[00:50:23]>> Whatever you put in your head with the >> to have a good atmosphere about this.

[00:50:26]>> It depends on >> Rotisserie already speaks very softly.

[00:50:30]>> Put your Kerrygold in. Try this. This could really help your life with Sam. He could actually experience the taste of fried chicken that's not fried. Okay?

[00:50:38]I cut off I cut the breast. I cut it into pieces and I still put it in that pan with seasoning, but I'm not kind of frying it as >> Just Tony's um Cajun seasoning.

[00:50:47]>> also put nutritional yeast and um >> cayenne pepper on mine.

[00:50:50]>> Well, that was important to know.

[00:50:52]>> Well, I don't put that on Charlie's.

[00:50:54]Then I put mine over a big salad with goat cheese and all of that, but he eats his.

[00:50:57]>> sounds yummy.

[00:50:58]>> He eats his I'm showing you how we do two different meals from one rotisserie chicken. He eats his with a side. I will do for him like a pea salad with mayonnaise, a real Southern boy type thing. Broccoli salad, he never Sometimes a regular salad with ranch or whatever. Or I'll do some golden potatoes, whatever. But mine always goes on a huge salad with blueberries, goat cheese, nuts.

[00:51:22]>> Yeah.

[00:51:23]>> Now, that's one meal. The next night, take the leftover chicken, cut it up, put it in wraps. I use extreme wellness Ole low-carb wraps.

[00:51:32]>> You eat those, too?

[00:51:33]>> I love them. I'm still the drive-thru Sue at heart. I've I'm a keeper making person and I'm more pure than I used to be, but I still do these things.

[00:51:41]>> Yeah, I'll take you to account.

[00:51:41]>> Spinach, tomato, so much um veggies in there. I put for my husband cream cheese >> Yes.

[00:51:50]>> and regular grated cheese so he feels like he's a very caveman eating a very hearty >> Yeah.

[00:51:55]>> wrap.

[00:51:56]>> Yeah.

[00:51:56]>> Mine is much more full of veggies and I don't do cream cheese. I do um I actually sometimes don't even cook mine.

[00:52:04]I do avocado and a little light Laughing Cow. But uh or I do goat cheese, things like that. But the same protein, two wraps just done differently for our different desires. She saved the body.

[00:52:16]>> She did.

[00:52:16]>> Now, I had might have a little chicken left over and um that would be like an afternoon snack or something like the wings or something. But I'll always use just between the two of us.

[00:52:26]>> a wing?

[00:52:26]>> I know, but I'll have it with the like coffee with protein or something. The two wings for an afternoon snack.

[00:52:32]>> you really make it go far.

[00:52:34]>> Oh, yeah. Every week it helps me because I don't have a lot of time for prep.

[00:52:38]There you go, three meals.

[00:52:39]>> No wonder you like chicken.

[00:52:40]I'm I'm imagining boiling it up.

[00:52:43]>> But just taking a rotisserie chicken home and trying it hoping it's good, that doesn't happen.

[00:52:47]You got to do stuff to it.

[00:52:49]>> I'll fix the podcast. How much protein should >> want you to fix it. He wants to be the fixer. Go for it.

[00:52:55]>> How much protein should women consume in a day and does it is it different for different women by age, etc.?

[00:53:01]>> No, it's not.

[00:53:02]>> Well, I would like to say that it's always important.

[00:53:07]>> Yeah.

[00:53:07]>> Always.

[00:53:09]But there are times when it's crucial.

[00:53:11]>> But how much >> Pregnancy and nursing, you are stealing from your own body if you're not anchoring every meal.

[00:53:18]>> are you with menopause and >> but there is exactly, but there for different reason. And I was going to add that after the pregnancy and nursing. Um the second the second, you know, group of people would be the perimenopause and the menopausal people. But there are seasons where you're either giving to your life giving, you're giving to a child or you don't have hormones to that are anabolic at all. So I think those two they're more crucial than even normal, but it's always important. But could >> Really what Danny asked was, yes, we say 25 to 30 g at least four times a day.

[00:53:50]That's what it is.

[00:53:51]>> 25 to 30 four times Okay, so 100 g of protein.

[00:53:54]>> That's your minimum.

[00:53:55]>> Or a little more per day.

[00:53:59]>> So so every meal needs 30 g.

[00:54:02]>> Every meal needs 25 to 30 g.

[00:54:05]>> Yeah, if you're it's a snack, it's still 30 g. 25 to 30.

[00:54:08]>> Okay.

[00:54:09]>> Snack is not like so that you can have an apple and just four wal- walnuts. You know, it's No, you don't have snacks like that four times a day.

[00:54:15]>> Now it's not doing it. Yeah, it's not.

[00:54:18]>> So having a bag of some dang protein is is really helps that because you're that's a lot of boiled chicken.

[00:54:26]>> Yeah. It's a lot of tuna. Especially if you don't even like tuna.

[00:54:29]>> You're really hawking down the protein.

[00:54:31]So to drink chocolate milk, you don't feel like you're plunging protein.

[00:54:36]>> Yeah, it's it's for me it's such a hack for a busy life.

[00:54:40]>> Yeah. Yes.

[00:54:40]>> Cuz sometimes I'm like, I don't even have time to stop to make an afternoon snack between lunch and dinner. I don't have time, but I can pour some jolly zippy into my water.

[00:54:49]>> Hold on, there was something wrong with that poll. What about Greek yogurt and cottage cheese? Did that not enter in or did you miss that, oh poll reader?

[00:54:56]>> Oh, I missed it.

[00:54:58]>> Is it there? Where was it?

[00:54:59]>> I skipped it. It It's up close to the top. It's second place.

[00:55:03]>> easy. That's why you just swirly to swirly to go.

[00:55:06]>> I I do a lot of Greek yogurt and cot- yogurt. That's what I do.

[00:55:09]>> Because we were pretending to be our father today saying >> Yes, so we and I we were in town in Nashville. We had to do some things there and we ran into Whole Foods. What are we going to eat? You know, we had to eat lunch and come back here and we're like >> There's something we had to eat and drive at the same time. So it wasn't like >> get some yogurt like our dad says. So we got some Greek yogurt and >> And a protein bar and we just kind of like cut the little protein bar into the yogurt, you know?

[00:55:29]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:55:30]>> Yeah.

[00:55:31]Get the chewy things.

[00:55:32]>> It's too You know, uh >> It's a delicious lunch. I'm I've got stuffed.

[00:55:36]>> Yeah, I enjoyed mine.

[00:55:36]>> Maybe 10 years ago I wouldn't say this, but it's too easy now to eat right. I feel like there's good food. I mean, when we're talking Walmart has it all, just about.

[00:55:47]>> They really do.

[00:55:48]>> I mean, yeah.

[00:55:49]>> Everywhere you go, even at even at plane like >> Do you airplane? It's expensive, but it has everything.

[00:55:55]>> Airplane?

[00:55:56]>> You know >> Airport.

[00:55:57]>> Airport.

[00:55:58]>> Cuz we were saying there and they offer you pretzels and >> at the airport you go into the news max or something like that, you >> Oh, they do.

[00:56:04]>> You know you ever heard of Steak 'n Shake?

[00:56:06]>> Yes.

[00:56:07]>> They're making burgers with like duck fat and stuff. Now, I'm not saying there's other reasons their burgers maybe not be perfect, but like uh there's this place Waldo's. It's kind of a southeastern uh chain, but there's only like I think 13 of them. They're frying uh it's either duck fat or what's the other healthy thing?

[00:56:25]>> Tallow.

[00:56:26]>> Tallow. They're frying their chicken in tallow.

[00:56:29]>> what Wildflower, I think it's called.

[00:56:31]>> Yes.

[00:56:32]>> Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[00:56:33]>> In in Franklin, Tennessee, Cool Springs.

[00:56:35]Oh my goodness, I had this It was so delicious. I had the salmon and the >> Oh, yeah.

[00:56:40]>> sweet potatoes, and they were um ah, they I I I don't even know what they like Thai spiced?

[00:56:48]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:56:48]>> Oh my goodness, and then I had their olive oil infused um broccoli, green beans.

[00:56:54]I mean, it was a meal to die for.

[00:56:56]>> Wildflower's nuts.

[00:56:57]It's so good.

[00:56:58]>> It was so good. I'm going back.

[00:57:00]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:57:00]>> new favorite restaurant. I said to Meadow, we have to bring Serene here.

[00:57:03]Serene, you'd love it.

[00:57:04]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:57:05]>> So good.

[00:57:05]>> Gosh, I might go tonight.

[00:57:07]>> We're 57 minutes in.

[00:57:08]>> Yeah, yeah, okay. So, let's >> You and I were not stopping cuz we want to redeem it. We're trying to fix it.

[00:57:13]>> I'm starving now, so uh all right. So, we did actually Well, we didn't do. People have written questions in to our social media, and we're going to answer some of those questions.

[00:57:25]>> We're allowed to. It's our podcast.

[00:57:27]>> That's right. Yeah, yeah, we have Look, he's saying yes.

[00:57:29]>> Oh, Dan's saying hurry up.

[00:57:32]Get on with it, he's saying.

[00:57:33]>> [laughter] >> Get going. Oh, not yes, get going.

[00:57:36]>> Yeah, he's like We're all going to get a talking to after this.

[00:57:40]>> Um yeah, we really it's because it's not live.

[00:57:44]>> start rubbing our hands. We have to put it out for a strike. Because we didn't have internet, so we didn't have to do the live thing, so we've been naughty as anything.

[00:57:50]>> We have yeah, we are getting it in.

[00:57:52]>> Yeah, cuz we know it's over next week.

[00:57:54]And it's just over. All right, so here's some questions and I want you guys to answer them here on the show.

[00:57:59]Uh first question that came in, I'm not on GLP-1, but I still feel like my cravings are out of control. Where should I start?

[00:58:06]>> Well, you should start, I think, with anchoring everything around protein. Try the whey protein hack, too. Like 20 minutes to half an hour before a meal, you can take a scoop of plain whey in a little bit of water and just stir it and down the hatch. It just tastes like milk. It tastes like cream.

[00:58:24]>> the official recipe. We called it the Food Peace Preloader. And so it's a little bit of kefir. Like a quarter cup, a little bit of >> helps incretin hormones, as well.

[00:58:34]>> The sour and the whey and the baobab, all three of those are in are GLP-1 producers.

[00:58:40]>> It's on our website. You can look up and you can go to the >> It's just a little like a shot. It's not a lot and you just take it and it really quietens down those hunger signals before meals.

[00:58:51]>> It's called the Food Peace Preloader. Go to the recipe area of our website. It's there for free.

[00:58:55]I would also say eat enough veggies with your meals.

[00:58:57]>> Yes.

[00:58:58]>> I really think that's fantastic.

[00:59:00]>> Because they're helping your microbiome with the veggies and that's helping your body start to produce its own proper >> Yeah.

[00:59:06]>> gut >> helping microbes.

[00:59:08]>> Can I use optimized plant protein if I already use whey?

[00:59:13]>> Absolutely. I use both in my life every day.

[00:59:15]>> life. It's your life.

[00:59:16]>> Yeah, I I I'm a both-er.

[00:59:18]>> Yeah, one doesn't cancel out the other.

[00:59:19]You can even halfies halfies in the same meal.

[00:59:22]>> Because I eat a lot this meal called sweatpants I'm not sweatpants. That was my old one. Um nested nested oats.

[00:59:28]>> I thought you were going to say Pearl's Perfect Poop Porridge or something.

[00:59:30]>> Yeah, no. That was another one I made.

[00:59:32]>> Suddenly I'm not hungry.

[00:59:33]>> Yeah.

[00:59:34]>> Question number three.

[00:59:37]If protein powder gets more expensive, what are the best real food protein options? Most bang for the buck.

[00:59:44]>> Well, it's always an animal. It's an animal protein.

[00:59:48]>> But too much red meat is not healthy?

[00:59:49]>> Fish, red meat. If your meat is grass-fed and your body does well with it, I think it's great.

[00:59:54]>> Now, the whole polyp worry. You know, you've heard this, right?

[00:59:57]>> so the old Meat does not rot in your colon.

[00:59:59]>> Yeah.

[01:00:00]>> It never did. It never >> in it causes polyps?

[01:00:02]>> Here's what I want to say about red meat. You can get into a rut if all the meat that you red meat you're having is very fatty and let's just say it's an 80/20 and it's a ground beef. And let's just say you're having it on a salad and you're having that fattiness and then you're having some cheddar cheese and then you're having some ranch dressing and it's all a bit heavy.

[01:00:21]>> Yep. Yep.

[01:00:22]>> I think that there's a place for that sometimes, but sometimes you need to lean your meats up so there's a balance.

[01:00:28]You know, there's a recent um it was a recent thing on social media where a doctor comes out and talks about how he was a gut doctor and he does ostomies on people's like it's >> Not colostomies.

[01:00:41]>> No, ostomies. He called it an ostomy.

[01:00:43]It's before that, the last part of the colon and it's like the first part. Like you know, people say meat rots in your gut. It's like the whole first intestine and then to the gut area. And so they for some reason they need to give their their system a break so they have an ostio an ostio kind of bag and they said they've never found bits of meat undigested or rotting ever. They'll find corn, they'll find pieces of things.

[01:01:12]They find food in it, but never meat because meat is broken down to into its separate like peptides and amino acids before that. It's a kind of a very It's a thing that I used to say when I was a vegan. Meat rots in your gut. It doesn't.

[01:01:24]>> Nice to know. I'm in perimenopause.

[01:01:27]Well, not me, but the question asker is in perimenopause and what used to work is not working anymore.

[01:01:32]Do I need to change the whole plan?

[01:01:35]>> You don't need to change the whole plan, but you you need to tweak things for your season because when you're younger, you have more muscle mass and you have less insulin resistance. So, you can do that meal that I was talking about before, that very very heavy S meal where you put on all the cheese and you put on all the nuts and you put on the ranch dressing with piles of oil and you don't even care how much you're doing and you got to go to the fatty meats and your body's like, "Oh, I'll burn it.

[01:02:01]Sure. It's an S meal. I'll burn it." And then you get older and your muscles become more insulin resistant. Perhaps you haven't exercised the whole time or for whatever reason.

[01:02:11]And so then you do need to tweak things a little bit and we wrote a whole huge book on it, Trim Healthy Wisdom. But how would you say that in a nutshell, Serene, for this person?

[01:02:20]>> Well, the thing is is that I was still thinking about the other question when he asked that question. I was still thinking about all the other things that could be helpful to say. So, I actually heard your response, but I didn't hear the official question.

[01:02:33]>> I didn't want to hog, so I can actually help this person if you want me to.

[01:02:35]>> continue because I didn't even hear the question.

[01:02:37]>> Okay.

[01:02:38]>> Just thing on it.

[01:02:38]>> I would just say um eat enough E meals um so that you're not just in heavy S land all the time.

[01:02:47]But when you do have your S meals and S meals means a meal that celebrates fats on Trim Healthy, you don't do a fat-a-palooza every time. There's a place for an S meal that's very balanced, very grounded. You have a tablespoon of oil, you have a light sprinkle of nuts and cheese, and then you use a lot of seasonings and it's fantastic. But if you're piling fats upon fats upon fats and you're insulin resistant and you have lack of muscle, you're not going to be able to burn it.

[01:03:12]So, yes, you you don't have to up-turn the whole Trim Healthy plan upside down.

[01:03:17]Just um be wise with it. Yeah.

[01:03:20]>> Well, that wraps our show today. People, for the purest products at the best prices, go to store.trimhealthymama.com.

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