'They don't want to unite this kingdom, they want to divide it'

Added: 2026-05-22

[00:00:00]What we're hearing from Reform is a vision of a Britain that is founded on whiteness. Oh, for goodness sake. Do do you realize you undermine your whole argument when you come out with rubbish like that?

[00:00:12]There's nothing in Reform. I mean, I'm I'm not a Reform voter, but I I would never dream of saying that their platform was founded on whiteness. I mean, please.

[00:00:22]>> say that their platform was. I said there are fringes in there. And if you take the time to research some of the people who are funding Reform, some of the people who are putting their money into it, some of the people in America who are influencing its growth and the foreign money that is coming in, you will see that they are not people who want a united Britain. They don't want to unite this kingdom. They want a divided kingdom. They want to see the rights of ordinary citizens rolled back.

[00:00:47]And it's dangerous, but I also understand why it's appealing. And it's appealing because no one else is talking to those sections of the community that have felt excluded, not governed for. And that's what Westminster politics has failed to do.