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[00:00:06]with the new coaches coming in. If you look at Chelsea, >> yes, >> he's going to have a challenge because he's just rebuilding. If you look at change a few things but the thing is that has been there before and then he went to Chelsea has been there was a very good team.

[00:00:38]Yes teamsp of course lot has got to improve his defense there's no doubt about that in that time >> even I I also think that it's also going to take maybe two three seasons before he can get that team Manchester United very consistent do you believe that is going to dominate now >> definitely because when you look That's what I'm saying to V and V must be careful >> learn from their past mistakes. If they don't they'll start they crumble like a cookies >> because for example can we say that um Bakabindi was a failure because during this time the ministry of sport okay the sports sector would get 400 million for a whole year you know >> 400 million to be shared by the ministry the sports the sports desk >> and then national council of sports and the federations Hello. Uh welcome to the observer locker room where you just joined us at a time where we're trying to reflect on what the journey has been like in u the sports sector looking back at the ministers that have been in charge and also that is definitely going to take us into a major discussion this week looking at um honorable Peter Guang who has been appointed again as a state minister of sport um of course uh that is under the docket of the ministry of educ ation. He's going to be running another term. He was first appointed in 2022 in July and by and large many people feel that his term as s of sport has been a successful one. What do you think? Of course joining me um on this day as we bring you the observer locker room is Charles Mugwa right next to me and of course um Badru. I remain John Vimebe the host of the observer locker room. that comes to you on this week as we end the month of May.

[00:02:56]Gentlemen, it is um quite interesting that by the time the picture got on and on the time when the people were watching us already discussing what the past has been >> I'll start with you Mira um Peter Guang this week reappointed minister of state for sport not a surprise and uh what has what's your take on how he has performed in his uh tenure as uh for the last four years? I think uh for me has has performed well. First of all, you would ask yourself what is the purpose of a ministry?

[00:03:32]>> Of course to lobby.

[00:03:34]>> I think >> for his sector >> for the sector he has done his job. To me I would say he has done his job tremendously very well.

[00:03:42]>> And when he was appointed uh minister of sports that was in >> 2022. Oh >> no no no. Muang was 22 July.

[00:03:53]>> 21.

[00:03:53]>> Yeah. No, he came in after Ham Hson was 2021.

[00:03:56]>> Then there was a reshuffle then.

[00:04:00]>> Yes.

[00:04:01]>> 22. So he has basically sat for 4 years.

[00:04:03]>> Yeah.

[00:04:04]>> And they've added him other >> 5 years.

[00:04:07]>> Yeah. For me I think >> that's if there's no other for me I think he has done a good job because if you look at the at the budget of sports right now at 1.3 bill trillion >> trillion now >> that is because of Afon >> it is 47 billion >> yeah 47 billion is what was the other the previous one yes >> but still in this genuine I would say that is a success >> I don't know I I don't know um how much success can we give I mean credit can we give the minister of state for sport like Peter Guang when it comes to the budget or the money because for example can we say that Bakabindi was a failure because during this time the ministry of sport okay the sport sector would get 400 million for a whole fun you know >> 400 million to be shared by the ministry the sports the sports desk >> and then national council sports and the federations >> so how much credit can we give Peter >> like said right said because minister's work is to to lobby.

[00:05:07]>> So you're saying Bakabin didn't lobby?

[00:05:09]>> He didn't. Yeah, he didn't lobby enough.

[00:05:11]That's why we are complaining about him because you remember Nas Castle's sports budget was at 4 billion before 2016.

[00:05:20]>> Yes.

[00:05:21]>> When when min took over that minister as minucation sports it Yeah. It was raised to 40 to 11 something billion >> that has gone on increasing until now to 48 billion but because of African it's now over trillion years so now he did his work well because you have to you have to talk to so many people you have to talk to par parliamentarians you have to to talk to speaker you have to to to to talk to to to government in cabinet a Mhm.

[00:06:04]>> So if you are weak your sector will never get money and whenever there is some cuts somewhere >> it will affect your sector >> it has affect your sector >> because you are there you are not talking >> so I think this man has done well and it is in his tenure that's when Uganda Uganda and the other two East African countries what Kenya and Tanzania Tanzania they the got AFCON here.

[00:06:35]>> Yeah. Because of that because we you know government is fully involved when it comes to bid for Afon. So this free governments you know they had did a lot and and of course now the sector minister you have to to do more than that because when it comes to traveling towards passing from one country to another it's the minister of sports.

[00:06:59]>> Mhm.

[00:07:00]>> Yes. So, so because you know somebody would argue because I was talking some and their view is that also maybe the the speaker of parliament anamok the former she played also a big part and that many people think is because of the relationship that she has with the fufa president who is her husband that somehow >> um Moses Magogo because of his passion for for football particularly he pushed football into the faces of the parliamentary ians and somehow it rubbed off even the other federations in in in money coming in.

[00:07:35]>> Yes. Yes. But you it's true but you need yourself to be active minist which came in force in that 23 national 23 >> that one whereas Google came up with the private members bill but then this who >> also come up with the government's version that's when parliament said please can you can you compress it can you what is that >> amalgamate it bring it together >> bring it together so that we can get one one bill and then they worked it together with and other stakeholders and sorry that's why you Now a new sports law. You remember the previous law it had taken over 40 years from 1964.

[00:08:43]>> Yeah.

[00:08:44]>> Up to this 2023.

[00:08:46]>> Yeah.

[00:08:47]>> You can imagine.

[00:08:48]>> So he has really done a lot. You just imagine from 1964 we didn't have ministers.

[00:08:57]>> We had for presidents.

[00:08:59]>> We had Yeah.

[00:09:00]>> So why are you not giving the money? But you see, you see the reason why for me I'm going to be devil's advocate here.

[00:09:06]Previously the president of republic of Uganda has said >> the focus of the government has been on infrastructure development the roads to try and see that they boost the economics of the country and that's the reason why sports was and that's why sports was not being given the attention or even the bigger portions when it came to budgeting. So maybe if I say that you see honorable Peter Guang came in at the right time in the right place where now of course AFCON is coming but also government um can dedicate some money to some more money to sports because maybe now there's some little money. No.

[00:09:50]>> No, no, no, no, no, no. Yes. I still think that Uganda has a lot of money, but I also wouldn't you think that maybe it's about the timing also?

[00:09:57]>> Have you ever took time?

[00:09:59]>> You talk talk about the timing when Janet was appointed minister 2016.

[00:10:04]>> Yeah. Me of sport and education and sport. Yeah.

[00:10:08]>> Before came was did they increase the budget?

[00:10:11]>> It was about I think 4 billion >> at that time. It was it was it was increased to 11 billion.

[00:10:18]>> From four >> from four. Yeah. 2015.

[00:10:22]It was increased to 11 billion. So >> then from 11 billion now to 48 something billion. 47.8 billion.

[00:10:32]>> Yes. That that 48.8 billion came in >> last year. 2025 last year financial year. M of course it is it is under the 1.3 trillion because >> no 1.3 is going to come now the trillion trillion is because of yeah because of the infrastructure >> because of infrastructure there's what many many things that's why because even 40 47.8 8 billion is still for sports.

[00:11:01]>> Yes.

[00:11:02]>> Because usually national castle sports because they have their own vote because originally they were they were taking money from the min of education vote.

[00:11:13]>> Yeah.

[00:11:14]>> So now it was separated.

[00:11:16]>> So they get their vote straight from from min from from the national budget.

[00:11:21]>> Yeah. So now the 40 the the 48 billion it is not even 50% of what was for4 years yes it's not it's not even half it is about 48 49% >> percent >> of what they applied for >> yeah what what they need >> so so for you insist Peter Guang has been a success >> of course of anything which comes during your time I mean he loved the sports but he didn't didn't build we made so was built under this government. So we give this government credit.

[00:12:03]>> You can't say now they have a lot of money that's why it was constructed.

[00:12:08]>> So we expect more in the next time from Peter Guang you think >> for me? Yeah I think so.

[00:12:13]>> Yeah. Especially after Chan AFCON I think has really done well and Chan was a success.

[00:12:20]>> Success. Yeah.

[00:12:22]>> And this one for me I know it's going to be a success still >> because because of the the president because the deadline of stadiums was supposed to be 2025 December. Yeah. Now this is 2026. They're still constructing those up to February I think next year 2027.

[00:12:49]>> 2027.

[00:12:50]>> So all that goes to Peter Guang for the work he has done. Um I think the the truth is that he's um been more proactive. That's true. I think more than his predecessors like he's been in the faces of the public time before Guang were discussing his post in parliament >> during the time of Yes. for 11 years and was a former footballer 11 years even a footballer you see him playing a lot at the play in yes >> for 11 years he was a state minister >> for sports and was sitting on the >> well gentlemen we have to move on from that and I'm going to Arsenal 22 years without a league title they did it this time and the celebration ations have been crazy across the country.

[00:13:42]Unbelievable celebrations. But now after that and of course they they have a chance of even completing the double if uh they win the UFA Champions League.

[00:13:52]But now the the the elephant in the room is do you think Arsenal can dominate the way we have seen Man City do it? Um because previously when Arsenal won under Asen Wenger they would win this season not win again for two seasons then come back and win you know that kind of thing. They would never defend a title under Asen Wenger. They never defended the Premier League title even once.

[00:14:13]>> This time, do you think they can go on and dominate the way we've seen Manchester City do it? Win four successive the way we saw Sal Ferguson do it, winning it in um 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 200, no Chelsea, 2011 again winning four in 5 years. Do you think we can see now after knocking on the door for so many years coming once and then eventually cracking the code and winning? You think they can dominate?

[00:14:48]>> No, I don't. I think they can dominate.

[00:14:51]>> Why with the new coaches coming in? If you look at Chelsea, Alonzo, >> yes, >> he's going to have a challenge because he's just look at after leaving to change a few things here, but the thing is that has been there before. So maybe not to a very good team.

[00:15:30]>> Yeah.

[00:15:32]Man City havep of course has got to improve his defense. There's no doubt about that.

[00:15:49]>> Even a car I I also think that it's also going to take maybe two three seasons before he can get that team Manchester United very consistent. Do you believe that is going to dominate now?

[00:16:00]Definitely because when you look at Arsenal Wenger Arsenal, they didn't have money. You remember when Arsenal started building constructing the stadium >> the stadium to 400 million pounds >> at the time.

[00:16:19]>> Yeah.

[00:16:19]>> Yeah. So it was difficult to build a stadium of that that and then at the same time you also a team it is difficult very few teams can do that maybe because maintaining top four with success >> yes but in England was difficult so that's why would have been a good coach he would have dominated but teams which dominated previously when it comes to Liverpool that Liverpool team which won backto back the Champions League 1977 and 78.

[00:16:53]>> It was a strong team.

[00:16:55]>> Yeah.

[00:16:55]>> Or or not forest back to back and Champions League 79 and 1980.

[00:17:02]It was also a a top team but they didn't dominate because by that time there were about five teams which were good 77 that is Liverpool, not Forest, Aston Villa and Everton they are really strong. So it was difficult. They not buying you know those sophisticated players but at the same time you are not build constructing stadiums.

[00:17:25]>> Yeah.

[00:17:26]>> That's why Liverpool it was most successful English team in Europe.

[00:17:31]>> Okay.

[00:17:32]>> But they didn't have a stadium which you can talk about.

[00:17:38]>> Mhm.

[00:17:39]>> At Anfield which was I think 40 something 44,000 as Newcastle had a bigger sad than Liverpool. remember >> and and Matthew >> then came and beauty stadium which now they getting a lot of money they're reaping from their investment now as um they have now the money >> they have money >> so they can even boost their squad >> yeah when you look at their squad apart from haters like you who thinks that didn't deserve to win the the the trophy the premier But look look what even in Europe because here they say VR has helped us and all whatever but how about in Europe >> but we are helped >> how about who who was not helped by anyway who has not helped. So but so for me I think now in the position as as said the other teams are improving on their squads but as now they have a better squad and they can yeah they just need to add like a few players midfield defense one and and a better attacking player all >> yeah but as we move on from that that topic of course we have to discuss Vipers and the the Uganda Cup final and the implications when I look back at teams that have gone on to dominate for me my concern may be that after has won now >> they are they are bound to get into a sense of um hangover you know because you've tried so many times some so many times you come close you don't win the moment you do it there's that relief oh we've done it finally and then the players can sort of like go into that mode of relaxation don't you think that that's bound up that's what I've seen because you teams that have gone on to dominate, they don't finish second for so many years like second, third, second, third, they like you see Man City, they came cracked it >> and they went on that way from from from the Manini time then Pellegrini comes in and what not also he won so many >> when Ferguson did it also you he would not take so long. Now my worry is when a team comes so close several times like Arsenal has where they I think that even the previous seasons they played better football than they played this season >> and they didn't win. Now that they have won >> aren't you concerned that sometimes there's that hangover city the ones that dominated.

[00:20:22]>> Dominated. Yes, because Manchester United they have that class of 192 benefited that squad for quite a long time almost about seven 780 players and now what they needed is to have those experienced players who are really who have who yes who have who have you know who have won >> they had who have had winning experience >> winning experience Sorry Manchester City because that mentality you have they came with it and they put in the prayers because you have to put in your prayers that you have to win.

[00:21:11]You remember when you when to consider a goal then these prayers we bring them together and make a a meeting there.

[00:21:19]Please let us go. Let us go.

[00:21:23]used to do.

[00:21:25]Yes. So now once you get some of those players and bring your team and these players have also now picked after winning this for me I think is going to dominate because for instance in 20 in Madrid for instance >> you remember when Barona dominated from 2003.

[00:21:45]>> Yes. Up to around 2010.

[00:21:48]>> 2010.

[00:21:48]>> Yeah. when Mourinho >> Madrid and Madrid were was buying players good players moreover and they didn't manage Barcelona >> or >> okay Madrid won in between there remember Bernard Schusta and Capello they won 2006 2007 and 2008 >> yes yes but but look what now Madrid in Madrid >> which won the Champions League three times 2017 2018 >> 2018 three times in a row you can still dominate but Not for long as can dominate for about three years, three three years, four, not even five.

[00:22:25]>> The way I look at it, >> you agree?

[00:22:27]>> Yeah, I agree because first of all, they were saying cannot win titles because they have no experienced players. They have that hunger for me.

[00:22:36]>> Now they've won the title.

[00:22:37]>> So the pressure is off.

[00:22:38]>> The pressure is off.

[00:22:39]>> So that could also help them. the fact that uh the pressure is off. It's um quite interesting by the way the way we we we look at it and um I'm I'm sure that um the coach ata will probably feel that um there are certain players that need to move on I think um following um the the kind of uh disappointment that they had in previous years and now they've cracked the whip rather they've cracked it at the code and they have succeeded. I think it will be interesting. But um as we come to a conclusion um we have the matter of Vipers winning um the Uganda Premier League >> back to back. They have become a very dominant force in Ugandan football now.

[00:23:24]I think the way the way we see it >> um one in 2023, one in 2025, one again 2026.

[00:23:34]>> For KCC, it's still a problem. I don't know what you have to say about your KCC side. They have not won since 2019 under Mike. It's now come to 7 years and it's a long time you know somebody looks back at 2019 and now 2026 7 years >> success and surprisingly vipers have won 80 trophies >> during that time.

[00:23:55]>> No vipers have won 80 championship surpassing even that is that is in 16 years.

[00:24:04]>> Yeah.

[00:24:04]>> V won eight >> from 2010.

[00:24:07]>> Yes. V1 8 in 10 years.

[00:24:11]>> 8 in 10.

[00:24:12]>> Yeah. Because I guess that's why they the best V from 82 to 92. That is that is eight.

[00:24:18]>> Yeah.

[00:24:20]>> By the way, we're being joined by Charles because he's the in-house villa consultant. Anything concerning Villa, we have we have got to have him on set otherwise it will not be approved.

[00:24:37]So, so what I was saying when you look at Vipers the reason one of the reasons why they are nearly dominating now because of the weaknesses from >> other clubs >> from rival clubs because rival clubs have internal bickering bickering mismanagement mismanagement and what has been so vipers have taken that but for me I really praise the sports car Villa >> because as I told you V8 180 in 10 in 10 in in 10 years >> that is 922 >> to 82.

[00:25:15]>> Yes.

[00:25:15]>> And then they won seven in from 98 to 2004. That's again >> and and they won 10 from 92 up to 98. How many years are those >> from 92 to 98? Six years.

[00:25:29]>> That is 16 years. V had won 10 championship championship. M >> which means V was the dominant side >> by before chips in Vipers are claiming that they finished the season unbeaten which I think is unofficial. It is unofficial. Yeah. Because the records show that you lost it is only V has gone season without losing isn't it?

[00:25:54]>> It is not not unbeaten. It's only V.

[00:25:57]Yes.

[00:25:58]>> Which end the season 192 season unbeaten because they played their games because even Via But even if he didn't play the last game against KCC 82C refused to come because the game was not physically play was not unbeaten. That's what you want to say.

[00:26:22]So, so what Vipers is is claiming is >> because V9 was awarded two two goals and two points in 1982.

[00:26:34]>> You get it? And it was and it it what it reflected on the table.

[00:26:39]>> You get it? Now Vipers were their game.

[00:26:45]They for game against >> meaning on the table it will appear that they have lost >> one game. Yeah. And they can't change that.

[00:26:54]>> Yeah. They can't change that. They can't change that. They can the table doesn't lie.

[00:26:58]>> Why? Why do I Why do I I want to be on Viper side. They played 29 games. I'm on Viper side. They played 29 games.

[00:27:06]>> They played 30. Look what the tanist don't believe in that >> the the game that is included on the table.

[00:27:15]>> That was not the >> you remember why VIP has never turned up for that game. the new league for >> that was the new league for I think we should not count that but anyway have been talking about >> even the the money >> club the club >> not say the club has money they have the sponsors the players are motivated >> yeah 300 million promised them 300 million he g them 50 >> in January >> at half time >> now I think he paid and promised a small 60 million from the federation >> so I think even that motivation >> of course >> yeah you are right by is right but but how about is not motivated >> is because prayers are paid before >> the 28th >> 28th >> of every month >> every month >> even like that >> they're paid >> Mhm. M's prayers they eat they eat they what >> they facilitated >> they facilitated because even now all these last games about 10 games you are saying at at stadium they accommodated from there >> they're not going back home >> you see when you have a squad together >> yes you do wonders >> so the the facilities were there for them to people now You are they not paid well?

[00:28:52]>> I think the the winning >> mentality but but how about how about now you you are also paid also very well also paid well.

[00:29:02]>> So what do you think? So what do you think?

[00:29:05]>> Because let me tell you Ugandan prayers almost the same.

[00:29:08]>> Agreed. E because you remember this man Viper player called Abdu he played five five four to five games he was really really the best player >> what happened towards the end >> he lost a bit of his so there's inconsistenc inconsistence problem.

[00:29:34]>> Now during during >> Chan >> Yes.

[00:29:42]>> President promised >> Ugian players players 1.2 billion 1.2 billion every win >> they won on two and and drew one >> and lost the other one.

[00:29:56]>> That was a lot of money you were talking about. What what what Viper president promised his prayers promised 300 million.

[00:30:05]>> Yeah.

[00:30:06]>> Okay. Now government promised Uganda's prayers the major young they were promised >> 2.4 >> 2. No 1.2 for every week.

[00:30:15]>> Each game they won and they failed to beat South Africa. South Africa didn't come with it >> team.

[00:30:22]>> Not anywhere close.

[00:30:23]>> Yeah. Not yes but they didn't. So you can prayers are like that you can motivate them you can do what but for me I think there's a general problem so There was a time when Liverpool was the most successful club.

[00:30:52]>> Yeah.

[00:31:03]most in Uganda without how can you raise income?

[00:31:10]>> Because you see to be successful for to to to be powerful you must have assets.

[00:31:21]>> Yes.

[00:31:22]>> And assets inclusive or your your estates work.

[00:31:28]>> Yes. Yes. You've got to have. That's with a cab which you say this is the most successful club but you can't be the most successful club when you don't have a stadium when you don't have investment when you when actually you depend mostly from individuals individual's pockets.

[00:31:46]>> So that's why our clubs they have that strong money mentality simply because they don't they don't have investments.

[00:31:57]That's why when that was 2004 they struggled so much they have struggled since you can from 2004 they have won only two rigid titles >> that is 20 >> because the one in 2004 they won the one league which was >> 2004 >> he was because that one he was there >> not 202 he was there and he just like about a month. No, for me I'm talking about how many titles they have won from 2004 is only one2 Uganda Cup titles >> that is 2009 and 20 15 >> why because of that strong man's mentality however much that strong man is paying however much he's paying but when time comes and sends >> then the the institution collapses >> the institution collapses That's what I'm saying to V and V must be careful >> learn from their past mistakes if they don't they start they they crumble like a cookies I'm telling you >> why why why were you happy as we conclude were you happy about the fact that Fufa decided to move the game from Kadiba to >> which game >> the the Uganda Cup final from Kadiba to instead of maybe picking one of the grounds around Kala like KC taking it to I'm happy I'm happy that Fufa they have been big-headed you tell them problems there's a problem here and they will never react you remember in 2015 we told them don't take that that game because game involves two big rivals and inam they don't have the perimeter fence and perimeter in case of security and wanting. Yes.

[00:34:03]>> So we told them please do bring this game to they refused. What happened?

[00:34:09]>> They brought it back to the game aborted.

[00:34:12]>> And the game aborted. So now when we say it please you can't say you can't wake up and say V game is going to be at Kadiva where V Kadiva is V's what ground. So if they had you know if they had picked a year before the beginning of the tournament yeah before the beginning of the tournament their advantage they have reached the finals and the game is at their home ground but they picked this one after two teams finals and they knew that V is there and they put it there.

[00:34:49]>> But this time because those four guys are b That's but this time I think from their past mistakes and they and they relocated to which is okay now because no man home it is not okay the point we have we have yes we have and >> why why let me tell you this games like this finals is game that's fa when you look at it is going to be charged at KC they went to KCC and they overcharged >> Mhm. They said no we can't put this game here >> now. Now they have to they have to for me I think this is a neutral ground.

[00:36:01]>> Okay you remember that that that stadium hosted Uganda Cup >> which was Vipers 2023 is it 2023? Yes. Vipers and and and Bull. Yes. Vipers would have said no come here because this ball was nearer to this stadium because it was it is stadium. Yeah. you see stadium because you see there's no way how V is going to get that that advantage by playing >> because to play here because if V is complaining this team is coming from H >> to go to V has come from to go to still has what advantage >> in terms of distance if if communicated >> these clubs >> would have planned and budgeted for it that's that's the argument is making not just waking up like >> yeah which which is a valid argument >> we are we are >> okay the clubs >> yes >> are going to to miss some of the funds >> yes that's for me that's why I have also an issue >> because I'm sorry to go back >> to the other topic which you people are discussing at 7 there is a big game >> tomorrow >> as >> you expect people to go Vital and they miss the finals >> nearby people would have watched this game which starts at kicks off at three and by seven there >> yeah to watch or anywhere else. Yeah, which makes sense.

[00:37:51]Okay. How much was advantage?

[00:37:53]>> How much was charging or >> I don't know. I don't know.

[00:37:59]They approached the KC but for me why I said it's better it's better that this season other than playing that game.

[00:38:10]Oh yeah, where is his home?

[00:38:12]>> Yeah, where people are crying foul. You get it? So now I know what is coming from. I know I know >> because a section of fun >> because because that is now problem we have been witnessing that taking teams to you remember 2018 they went to 2018 but now what I'm saying at least that somehow the teams are going to because now advantage to this coming from to Now is coming from which means still V has a advantage distance.

[00:38:52]>> Yes. And this time >> this the champions each game is going to be played at seven >> has changed. It's not n >> not n they to because because I think want children to watch the game to yeah to end early so that people can move early that's what is experiencing. So at least that one can help a bit to watch it and then you come back early because by 9 something the game will be over >> the game. We we even give some credit.

[00:39:29]>> Yeah.

[00:39:30]>> Yeah. Cuz the team that was was it formed in 2010?

[00:39:36]>> Yeah.

[00:39:36]>> Then they came in 2023 >> and won it >> and won Uganda Cup.

[00:39:41]>> 2024.

[00:39:41]>> 2024 before they won. Yeah. One group.

[00:39:44]Yeah. So they're chasing the second one >> just in 21 they were here and they wereated.

[00:39:52]>> Yeah. That's why I said that and VA is chasing a 10th title as well.

[00:39:56]>> Last two years they back in another five.

[00:39:59]and the last time they play.

[00:40:04]So, it's also not going to be >> it's not going to be easily predicted.

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