Effective governance requires strong leadership, accountability, and unity across all levels of government; when leadership fails, it creates a cycle of insecurity, corruption, and brain drain that can be reversed through collective national action and the return of diaspora investment.
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"More Than 10,000 Nigerian Billionaires Will Return If Peter Obi Wins; Obi Won't Borrow" -Dr Mo VowsAdded:
Let's go to insecurity.
Um in the Northwest alone in the last few days, we've lost about 90 persons in the last few days Northwest of Nigeria.
We had 49 villagers were massacred in Kebbi.
Uh Kwara and Plateau states.
In Sokoto state, there's a place called Gobir. Um they came and masked and killed the Emir of Gobir. And the villagers, the people of Gobir fled because if the head is gone, you know, who will protect them? So, they they fled. Five worshipers slaughtered inside the church of Easter Sunday in Kaduna with 35 abducted. Nigeria is now the fourth um most terrorized country on the global terrorism index, you know, uh rating. So, has the government abandoned the people to themselves? Let's stop this drama of a oh insecurity. What do you think, Dr. Mu? Yeah, it's unbelievable.
You know, by the time they made the analysis of the amount of people, the amount of money, the resources just to save one man.
And here we are. Nigerian generals are dying because their ammunition, their vehicles, their So, if Nigerian general I mean, I'm talking about like we say, you're talking about just worshipers, you know, they've made light of the average life of They don't mean anything anymore. Nigerians just die every day.
In fact, uh for for over a decade or two now, um when you say five Nigerians are dead or 20 or 50, it's like I I Oh, guys, is it that one that you're worrying about? Because we've We I mean, in Benue, about 250 people, 500 people in Agatu were slaughtered. You know, when 1,000 Nigerians massacred, you know, then maybe civil society group will come out in one or two places and after two, three days, then we go back again. This is the This is the worth of the life of Nigerian. This is general. This has nothing to do with um whether they are just worshipers or they are street people or or or they are generals in the in the Nigerian army. Where we are right now is a complete abdication. It's almost as though we have no government because from the definition and the opening phrase of our constitution, governance and government is supposed to do basic two things, to protect the property and life of the citizens. So, where this fails, there's no governance. In Nigeria today, by the indices, when I look at the cycle of things, um we are we're not ready yet. The Nigerian people And again, you see, why I say [snorts] this because of what I know and the places I've been. You know, when you have been so beaten to the point where you are now held captive, you can't save yourself. Nigerians are in the place where you know, you they need to be saved.
This is where we are. I I spoke in the conference where I was saying that that Benue state is a captured territory. Any place in Nigeria where you can go and kill 500, 200 people and nothing happens is all is a conquered territory. Nigeria in that context is a conquered territory, you know, because the fact that nobody will be held accountable because the fact that nothing is going to happen, we already conquered. We already state captured, you know, and this is why you see that we return back to the religious houses. We have to pray, we have to fast until the day when Nigerians will wake up beyond political parties, beyond religious affiliations, beyond class, beyond beyond any affiliation and say, it is about the Nigerian blood and soldiers. You are my brother regardless of the name you bear, regardless of what religion you practice, that the pain you feel is the same pain I feel and Nigerians will lock hand in hand.
Just like what happened with Ahmadu Bello, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Awolowo.
They came together. They could see clearly who their enemies were, the colonialist. These were different people from different background. Nigerians need to come together and see beyond the political class, beyond religion, beyond all of these parochial tendencies and tools that are used and lock hands together and say it's our nation's first. The day that happens, then we will not be discussing this forgive the use of the word, Mr. Wale, this nonsense.
Nonsense because the life of Nigerians have become nonsense. Dr. Mu, I I'm sure you see videos on social media of the military grade weapons or armory of these terrorists and bandits and kidnappers.
Sometimes compared to ours. And they're always sophisticated. In fact, now we hear and we've seen this bandits and terrorists have you know, aircrafts um what's it called? Um weapons to bring down aircrafts. They can shoot down aircrafts. They have drones now.
Compared to ours that are still going around with AK-47s. Our soldiers essentially are still carrying AK-47s.
What has gone on with to the collapse of, you know, our military, Dr. Mu?
You know, growing up, I remember I had a lecture in Sierra Leone and when we finished the lecture, they took me out to work and the longest uh built road is almost like, you know, from the city gate to the airport. You see that stretch, you know, such a beautiful road. It It was named after Abacha. And you can imagine what I felt.
I'm like, why would you people be naming your best road after a dictator in quotes in Nigeria? And the story changed. It wasn't funny because they said to me, this it was during Abacha that, you know, Nigerian soldiers particularly delivered us from our anarchy. And Now, Dr. Mu, you be very careful what you say about those names. You know, you know, the environment changed. You know, and to to to So, you're talking about Nigerian soldiers, the most feared growing up. These are the most feared.
This They brought salvation to several African countries. It's the same people we're talking about now that are being run down by ragtag untrained people that don't even wear slippers.
Uh Mr. Wale, like me, like you, I'm also asking you, how have we come to this place? What happened to Nigeria?
You know, like our soldiers, like our intellectuals, like our designers, we're all over the world in NASA.
Go to the agri community. Go to the design world where cars are being made.
We have Nigerians all over the world leading tech, leading the banking industry, leading revolutions across the globe.
But you come back home. The same soldiers that held sway, that were feared and respected, today we're discussing them as though we're discussing some children at the backyard who are playing. I I don't know how we got here, but again, everything rises and falls on leadership. I ran for local government because I know that at the end of the day, what we're discussing is at the grass the grassroots.
Not because I'm not qualified or more qualified than anybody who has been president of Nigeria. But I understand that the responsibility and accountability is at that level. But again, these people up there will rig elections for the people down there. So, what you're seeing up there is a replication of what you have down here.
Mr. Wale, this is where we are at Nigeria today and it's it's it's it's it's it's No, Dr. Mu, are you blaming the people for the irresponsible behavior of their of their elected officials of government? you if you they're one and the same at the end of the day, you know, the local government chairman, the state governors, they are not different from, you know, So, yeah, the reason why we we we we keep putting a lot of pressure on on on the president is because at the end of the day, the box stops with with the president. But I'm giving you a clear example to see how it's a replication.
Somebody like myself will not be wanted to be because you know that as a local government chairman, security will be restored. You know that misbehavior in terms of accountability, you will see transparency. So, what you have up there is what is replicated down here. So, I'm I'm connecting the dots to show you that what we are seeing is the same government. The local, state and federal are the same. Worst case is that now we have INEC, judiciary and all, they are all the same.
It's just one people. So, we have no zero accountability, zero, transparency, zero, you know, responsibility. This is what we have across all the statuses of of of of Nigeria because if what is happening is happening in just one location, then you can say, "Oh, there's an exception." There is no exception. It's happening in the west, it's happening in the east, it's happening in the north, it's happening everywhere.
Is it not wrong for us to be blaming the people who have been left to the mercies of terrorists and kidnappers for the failure of political leadership?
>> No, I think it's also connected because um during my elections, I saw how some of the people, not all, but a few of the people that worked for me, took money, you know, and worked for the people. So, they're also responsible. We must deal with leadership as we deal with followership because at the end of the day, Mr. Wale, people are deserving of the kinds of leaders they have and there's a connection to it. And that's why for for for me, it's to continue to fight, to continue to win people over a day at a time where their value system is concerned because we must have people that will say I will not bow to this regardless of what happens. But what is even more critical with what we're discussing is the fact that you see this present regime it's dangerous because they are using the law as a tool for manipulation.
They are using the law.
You know, I don't know how best to put it but it's like today in in the Nigerian constitution certificate for forgery is is is is is criminality is criminal, you know, two many years the 14 years in you know, but today in the electoral act there is no even grounds to sue anybody who forged his or her certificate.
Yes, as amended. So, when a government now begin to use the law as a tool at that point we have reached ground zero and that's why even credible people from local government levels up, you know, can even if the people want at the grassroot want somebody or they voted for somebody can be manipulated. You know, and this is what you see and I'm I'm saying that because the question you ask is that what why are these people down here not doing it? Because the people up there have replicated the people they have. So, I here we are Mr. Wale, you we we know the people some of the people who are ambassadorial ambassadors today in Nigeria.
You saw what Germany said even to my own yes.
You can imagine a country reminding us of of the of of of of a person that we we put today, you know, so this is the level we have gotten to.
It's a replication of what we have at the top. That's what we have down there.
So, it's we have all become irresponsible.
We have all become a people without account because if the buck stops with Mr. President and where for example a general dies and you have people in within the ranks are sacked. I will keep keep sacking people every week.
This nonsense will stop.
The local government will behave the same. The state government will behave the same. You touched on something very critical earlier which is I mean and I was trying to you know, that the people you know, are somehow complicit in their in their misfortune, you know, because when time comes to do the right thing they still aid and abet some of these irresponsible. And that brings me back to this issue of Nuhu Bala Gombe and all of that because somebody resigned. You know, you sat down at the convention where they knew the old one that it belonged to what was dissolved and the new one was ratified. Then suddenly you wake up after 1 and 1/2 months to say no, it is not so whereas there are evidences. But then look at what's going on in Adamawa now. Some guy came up and said Bala Tella on the article they are suspending him or not. How is it so easy for people to be compromised like that?
Dr. Mu, why is it so easy to destroy a party? For what exactly? I don't understand. Today when when poverty is weaponized and when the value system of a people are completely broken down Mr. Wale, it's easy to do anything. You know, the examples you gave when somebody who has not even seen 10 million in his life just receive a lot of 2 billion it's madness.
This is what is going on in our country today. So, he and because the hunger is real the people that are dying the statistics they are not they are not rhetoric.
These are real people.
You know, and and when I travel across the world in different state and places and I see when I meet people who fled from Southern Kaduna in America for example Wale, there is nothing in this life that will bring them back to Nigeria.
And part of the people that we've helped, if you look at the president of China or some of the people in Singapore and so many other places who their country sent out to go on school, they went on scholarship and all of that.
They can't even wait after receiving education. They take the money, they take the technology and they run back to their country. But in Nigeria most of the people who leave Nigeria, they are jack buying because of hunger. They are jack buying because of unemployment. You jack buying because your father your mother were brutalized and killed.
How do you think you see Nigeria? You will never want to come back. Even if you make all the money.
I've met billionaires in dollars that own hospitals and all kinds of things in America begging and waiting for a day we will have a sensible government. Nigeria will not need to borrow any money and I can tell you at least I've had the opportunity to have traveled Mr. Peter Obi across the world and I can tell you one thing should somebody like Mr. Peter Obi becomes president. I'll tell you what will happen and I put it just averagely that are more than 10,000 Nigerians billionaires who move into the country.
We're not going to borrow money from anybody. There are Nigerians all over the world. So, this is what we are dealing with, you know, and this is what makes the story of Nigeria very sad. So, this current NSA service chiefs they've outlived their usefulness.
Yes or no?
A million yes.
Okay.
Thank you for that. Um Dr. Mu, right now
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