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[00:03:44]>> Mhm.

[00:03:52]Okay.

[00:04:01]Mhm. Right.

[00:04:06]Mhm.

[00:04:08]Yes.

[00:04:25]Okay.

[00:04:27]So, I've seen what you have gone through.

[00:04:38]Yes.

[00:04:43]years in the last four years something is done immediately.

[00:04:52]>> Okay.

[00:04:58]So that is one of the things that has pushed me. Mhm.

[00:05:05]Okay.

[00:05:07]>> Mhm.

[00:05:08]>> Empowerment our youths. Mhm.

[00:05:16]And it is coming at a time when you expect a solution.

[00:05:29]So that one alone I was in a very good space.

[00:05:35]>> I've been in the university for a very long time.

[00:05:38]So I cannot complain but it is more than just the only way and that's what we are doing. So are you are you confirming comparity and it's the exact I cannot place even one thing.

[00:06:42]Even something new that was asked.

[00:06:50]In fact, he came in four years. Not one project.

[00:07:01]No.

[00:07:02]>> That is the difference between us and everybody else. Mhm.

[00:07:08]>> Yes. Sure.

[00:07:11]Mhm.

[00:07:25]Tell me one thing.

[00:07:34]a very big center of excellence for example there was nothing launched nothing for years elsewhere The whole country many places.

[00:08:04]Yes. Did you see anything?

[00:08:22]Uh I've taken time I've taken time from even the act that introduced national CDF yes >> that the mandate and how which resources are getting to all target for for I've gone to >> I understand government.

[00:08:46]>> Yes.

[00:08:47]>> And uh my background between be behind beyond being um so meta science, >> I also did public administration. I understand government in and out. I have I've sat in in in in several boards >> uh both at the national level and also in several schools.

[00:09:09]>> Um I understand how government works.

[00:09:13]>> I know where our money is. Mhm.

[00:09:16]>> Uh but we don't have somebody who understands that and that is where the problem is.

[00:09:24]>> So because they sitting the sitting and does not understand in a in a scale of 1 to 10. Yes.

[00:09:33]>> 1%.

[00:09:34]>> One I cannot put there. It's just one point. Yes. Yes.

[00:09:42]Yes. What are the five things even before I put the five?

[00:09:53]>> Yes.

[00:09:55]>> Uh I'll change how they view.

[00:09:59]>> Okay.

[00:10:00]>> That is not general view.

[00:10:01]>> Mhm.

[00:10:02]>> But priority.

[00:10:03]>> Mhm.

[00:10:10]And it's through empowerment through education.

[00:10:14]>> So education will be a critical pillar and it is not just building classes uh or just uh painting the classes that are there changing sheets the way people think that that is now autom CDF.

[00:10:32]>> Mhm. It is getting the allocation we have.

[00:10:35]>> Yes.

[00:10:36]>> And C and I've been seeing this in several other forums 30 >> or 50 within the mandate allocation.

[00:10:46]>> Yes.

[00:10:53]Yes.

[00:10:58]Mhm.

[00:11:01]medicine here a pyro engineer there >> critical areas that are in need or in demand as a country Kenya >> you'll have let's say 10 surgeons uh 10 pilots these engineers these architects just a pool of 50 in the first year >> okay >> 50 graduating you'll have changed the life not only of these kids >> but of the entire society Do you know the impact of that one person within a village? Do you know the impact of a particular person within a village?

[00:11:41]>> There is.

[00:11:42]>> And that is exactly what we're saying.

[00:11:44]And you have several institutions coming up.

[00:11:46]>> So you have doctors, you have engineers, you have pirates and you are even going to group them.

[00:12:05]engineering. Mhm.

[00:12:06]>> Yeah. Urban development, infrastructure, five years, >> you'll have changed the the scope and that is the first year. Do that for five years. You'll have trained how many 2,200 people critical professionals and you'll have changed the scope. I'll give you that example and I've been giving this example what happened in Illuaza they picked around 20 20 kids young men they were taken out there they were trained came back and took positions in government pushed into government developed the entire legion literally >> the big names you that that everybody's talking about Tomboy Obama and and the like these people came back and they changed how the structure of their societ That is what you only need to do in the law first. So that is how you can change. It's not about picking money and lying to people. You give them whatever,000,000 million we can't account even for this money and it is something we are actually after this we are waiting.

[00:13:29]We need to see where the 80 million is.

[00:13:32]It it is not going to be business as us is usual because we have you have said it a million. Why are you giving them 4,000? There's a parent That is the question. Your guess is as good as mine.

[00:14:00]We've had complain that is lagging behind despite the huge.

[00:14:07]Yes.

[00:14:08]>> In your leadership which um I'll tell you maybe I'll take you back a bit. Mhm.

[00:14:20]>> Their location just grew exponentially.

[00:14:25]>> The previous members of parliament >> in the current administration because it was growing.

[00:14:34]>> Mhm.

[00:14:35]>> Uh what we are getting in 2013 was even less than 100 million. what you are getting now.

[00:14:41]>> Mhm.

[00:14:42]>> It's it's between you know because now it's going from 18 183 to 202 then to to 240.

[00:14:50]This financial is going to 240.

[00:14:53]>> Um we are lagging behind not because we don't we are getting this allocation but the person who supposed to structure how this money can be felt can be uh utilized doesn't understand where to start. Mhm.

[00:15:07]>> What they understand is largely on a different trajectory.

[00:15:16]What needed to be done is that you get this 200 million public participation which we participation. But now what the essence is if you stay with these people call them from every word. What is the critical thing we need?

[00:15:44]The other one will tell you.

[00:15:48]The other one will tell you we don't have do you know we don't have an an high school a a a lierence high school boarding school except school and all our kids are going to other other counties other counties and also other constituencies just because we don't have centers of excellence schools that somebody has lifted high school.

[00:16:27]There are several similar high schools.

[00:16:32]Our schools nobody cares. So what you needed to do is to pick specific school, one school in every word. Those are six schools.

[00:16:42]Put some good resources there. push them up to the level that they are matching an extra county school and that is what other constituents are doing. Yeah, you have seen but our schools are literally dead and you only need to pick six schools, one in every world. Put it in a level that you have pumped a lot of resources.

[00:17:08]>> Sure.

[00:17:08]>> Isn't it? It will pull all the kids in that ward to that specific school and you'll have a very good strong center of excellence within the world.

[00:17:19]>> Instead of um go paint this school here, move to another, you need to be structured. Ask them what is the immediate need. What is the immediate need? And that is why my my time in office and I'm God willing spokesperson.

[00:17:42]So 2027, but we were moving nicely until recently. They'll tell you. So I'll pick from where we stopped, where the rain started beating us.

[00:18:17]specific areas as we train elsewhere gain skills both locally and internationally then I also pick to build center of excellence in every word the issue of education that's priority number is healthy treatable diseases just basic things that happen but what what the national government does is largely because health is devolved so concentrating on infrastructure minister of health which department you need to go to at least once you have the infrastructure then you the county is also picking up because this function is devolved >> so infrastructure is is to work with the national government >> and then the county and all that in place but I'm representative of the people >> and I'll work with it as a priority. Mhm.

[00:19:46]We will go to an extent of paying for our vulnerable groups, our people with disability, orphans.

[00:19:58]These things you pay for them.

[00:20:08]So actually in the budgets that that were there, they were they were indicating that very many families were given cards to be treated free.

[00:20:28]Nothing.

[00:20:32]They don't. No, they don't. They have never been supported.

[00:20:39]You can ask them.

[00:20:40]>> Mhm. But even 2025 budget.

[00:20:46]Mhm.

[00:20:47]>> Yeah. 2023 they said where is our money? That is the only question.

[00:21:03]There are so many disasters.

[00:21:11]Disaster. How do you How do you get this money to sort these families?

[00:21:24]You needed immediately use the money that you have taken from us 9 million budget.

[00:21:32]Get this money support these families.

[00:21:35]We are told even supporties to be paid.

[00:21:49]So we are people who don't understand what exactly needed to be done >> because you have a department for disaster national disaster management authority you need.

[00:22:13]What is this?

[00:22:24]Minister that is the first priity within one month. One of them killed very many. How many lives do we need to lose? We have lost very many lives. And that is even expanding and putting bumps today nothing.

[00:22:54]Nothing people are actually we are waiting for another disaster.

[00:22:59]That is how bad it is.

[00:23:01]Let me shock you something.

[00:23:03]>> That person.

[00:23:20]And it's not only that, several other places where we have a problem and nobody seems to care.

[00:23:30]And that is what you want to fix.

[00:23:32]>> That's what I want to fix.

[00:23:33]>> All right.

[00:23:36]>> So you ask for five.

[00:23:37]>> Yes.

[00:23:37]>> Given you two, >> including infrastructure.

[00:23:40]>> Mhm.

[00:23:41]>> Uh youth empowerment.

[00:23:43]>> Sure.

[00:23:46]Very bright.

[00:24:02]There are no opportunities created.

[00:24:15]within 3 months.

[00:24:27]Ministry of water when they have a skill.

[00:24:37]So that is when somebody doesn't have that strong attachment, he'll not care about them. He want to see them in that that state. Yeah.

[00:25:00]Unemployment skills builds they can get into.

[00:25:25]So there are many other sectors you can help them. M >> you create opportunities. I was saying yesterday through another forum and that alone doesn't mean somebody has to be That is not the type of leadership we want.

[00:26:16]The same you can do.

[00:26:22]You build a center, help them get where the right agency are involved. Get them, let them build centers like that for tailoring, for water packaging, foraging.

[00:26:41]In fact, we thought Right. Yes.

[00:27:20]I'll just quote yes politics has recently seen major shifting alliances between the United opposition and the broadbased government.

[00:27:31]Where do you stand in this re realignment and how will you ensure that the interests of aren't lost in this high level political battlesh 2017 Mhm. M 2022 2027.

[00:28:20]>> Okay.

[00:28:20]>> Yes.

[00:28:22]>> Part two.

[00:28:25]How will you ensure that the interests of aren't lost in these high level political battles?

[00:28:44]It will be very interesting.

[00:28:47]Our interest will automatically be covered because right voters are increasingly concerned about the management of CDF funds.

[00:29:14]>> Yes. What transparent mechanisms will you put in place to ensure every shilling is accounted for and that projects are awarded on merit rather than political patronage >> public participation.

[00:29:30]>> All right.

[00:29:30]>> Once you have involved everybody project >> these people will automatically help in managing the CDF.

[00:29:40]>> Yes. But the moment you have a few people who are not telling you the truth, who you are giving their brothers and sisters, >> you don't remember the rest of the constituency among the people who some of these things.

[00:30:02]The rest of the constituent is crying everywhere.

[00:30:16]person, right? Yes. 0726447367udio.

[00:30:45]Okay.

[00:30:48]2027.

[00:30:55]Yes. Get TV.

[00:31:02]>> Yes.

[00:31:06]Mhm.

[00:31:09]Yes.

[00:31:13]Mhm.

[00:31:15]Uh >> yes.

[00:31:20]>> Mhm.

[00:31:27]>> Right.

[00:31:52]Hello.

[00:31:56]>> Hello.

[00:31:56]>> Yes.

[00:31:58]>> How are you?

[00:31:59]>> I'm fine, thank you.

[00:32:08]Yes.

[00:32:19]Mhm.

[00:32:26]Mhm.

[00:32:30]Right.

[00:32:36]Yeah.

[00:32:38]>> Right.

[00:32:50]ground mostly besides what you see on the highway.

[00:33:11]Mhm.

[00:33:14]Yes.

[00:33:27]So you need infrastructure priority.

[00:33:48]Yes, of course.

[00:33:55]But there are the areas right.

[00:34:09]So that those are the challenges and that is one of the things I able to do the rest.

[00:34:31]>> Yes.

[00:34:33]>> Instead of giving showing them how to fish, >> you are coming with the fish. And that is why we are trying to do this. We are training our people to build their own income but give them an opportunity that's not a priority to them. Yes.

[00:34:55]Right.

[00:35:09]How do you intend women groups? Yes.

[00:35:18]Yes. Yes.

[00:35:27]Asking me about 2020 after.

[00:35:30]So my priority women groups I'll put a kit within CDF support.

[00:35:43]>> Mhm. to build long-term investment. Yes.

[00:36:00]Mhm.

[00:36:04]Mhm.

[00:36:06]Mhm. Yes.

[00:36:12]Mhm.

[00:36:20]Mhm.

[00:36:27]Yes.

[00:36:42]So that way they have an constant income.

[00:36:51]Look at the movement cooperatives around central province and see what our people are doing here. They have no clue on what they supposed to pick. Put this one empower the groups.

[00:37:02]>> Mhm.

[00:37:02]>> Give them resources and they'll go very far.

[00:37:06]>> Right.

[00:37:07]>> Yes.

[00:37:13]Leadership.

[00:37:15]>> What can you say about the leadership?

[00:37:18]Are we progressing development in narrow?

[00:37:23]>> Um I had not really wished to engage on the county politics.

[00:37:28]>> Yeah, it's about >> but uh because it affects even the development constituents. Sure.

[00:37:33]>> And to put you into perspective.

[00:37:41]>> Yes.

[00:37:42]>> All the major development.

[00:37:46]Mhm. So in in to some extent >> the county leadership will affect the constituency.

[00:37:53]So um currently u the priority for our current leadership I think it doesn't meet the needs >> okay >> they they literally don't know which were the major priorities they needed to focus on and I'll tell you the main focus >> county besides the the basic because they they are not putting a lot on the lots and and and other things >> priority an sanation.

[00:38:24]>> Okay.

[00:38:25]>> As sanitation, drainage, youth empowerment, women empowerment, am creating opportunities, creating jobs as a county, >> markets.

[00:38:38]Yeah. So there are so many things. But if they had structured their priorities >> with the kind of do you know we have already pocketed 60 billion.

[00:38:49]If you put 60 billion into an economy, you can see the difference.

[00:38:54]>> So where is that 60 billion? So it means our money either it is being siphoned or the money is not really getting to the specific project because um with 60 billion we expect to see significant changes.

[00:39:13]>> Yeah. We we I don't want to talk to them or for them because I've not been very keen on what the county is doing but I think it is high time that we we had a critical uh rethinking of our county.

[00:39:27]>> Yeah.

[00:39:29]>> We've seen so many MPs county leadership.

[00:39:34]>> How do you intend to work with the leadership county?

[00:39:40]uh and I play that that leadership comes from the same party that I am in. If it is Jubilee and the MP the governor is Jubilee, I'll always walk to his office and present uh more or less collaboratively uh work with the governor >> and what if it's out of Jubilee?

[00:40:01]>> Uh I don't have a specific formula because their manifesto will not be matching with what we want to do for our people. Mhm.

[00:40:10]>> our people and I'll speak if Maju was the M the governor >> I'll pick automatically the priorities for our constituency and of course uh what he needs to do for sub counties in that context because the constituent now becomes the subcount. So I'll be picking uh the priorities for sub county and also work very closely because you know this is a devolved government they have their proceeds processes yes >> and the national government and of course where the MP serves as their pro I cannot advise the governor but collectively when you are from the same party from the same background I think I'll present this but in the context that they are coming from uh the other manifesto Unless I understand their manifesto, it is just building a working formula to closely work with them.

[00:41:02]>> And I'm not saying um I can't work with even the current governor if he wins and I'm also the MP. We are able to work collectively the teamwork also. It's because the whole idea is to help our people who elected very need to know who will be the governor.

[00:41:25]Mhm.

[00:41:36]Are you a president?

[00:41:41]Yes.

[00:41:53]Right. Yes. Hello TV27.

[00:42:22]First I want to congratulate Mush for coming up to help our people. Secondly, please Dr. You, you've been much you've been of much help to our churches. So please with the people. All right.

[00:42:37]Yes. Catholic church. All right.

[00:42:41]We've seen education is in your heart.

[00:42:46]What plans do you have to support schools, students in higher support?

[00:42:52]>> Schools, >> schools, students institutions.

[00:42:59]Uh besides the basaries and and this is you know you can support this this kit is really not it has a very gray area.

[00:43:12]>> Mhm.

[00:43:14]>> Like social kit supporting talents.

[00:43:17]>> Yeah.

[00:43:17]>> Building talents within the same CDF >> building umademies through collaboration going where the money is being allocated.

[00:43:29]institution still national government the money is sent to sports fund >> you have never gone there how will you help our schools so my priority is to know where our money is which institution is supposed to help usmies yes so there are so many things you can do for schools it's like building talents talentademies uh H and nowadays with the news dispensation of the CBC model, it needs a lot of uh technological support uh computers in schools supporting. If you for example in every word, >> you cannot go and open a center that only provide ICT. You identify one school in every in that center just even open it. It's a lab an extensive lab that is a center where all kids every Wednesday Friday within a word and you will do wonders >> right >> it's not about resources it's about within the limited resources >> yes >> you've been seeing supporting >> are you supporting him because the son of the soil say you have reasons as to why uh uh what I know >> uh and I've worked with Fred and I've learned a lot from him is among the people who have guided our thinking and uh our journey now starts from 202.

[00:45:24]>> Mhm.

[00:45:24]>> I'll tell you 202 it's a long time to know somebody.

[00:45:28]>> Sure.

[00:45:28]>> Uh to the extent that 207 we were there and I told you that. So I'm supporting him not only being a kissy but because of the things that he's going to I think is one of the exceptional people everywhere close you know when somebody even goes all the way to work with World Bank in a short notice that this is the right mind we need >> yes that tells you there's something more they can So we are supporting because of the capacity is able to deliver is able to change what we are as a people right and this one is going straight to that is how bad it is in the news and I'm using the same word is the lot that we want to sort that tells you the reality by every institution and he's been able to deliver. So Mhm. I think you don't know where people have come from over 20 years ago.

[00:47:17]Do you know they have worked with him support is what we are we are as a people. That is the direction and that is normal for every we are building ours is the only way to succeed as a society, as a community and nationally as a people. Mishm what is your plan for field is there's a field there >> filled with locks that field deserves to have a poly technique my priity Yes, >> if we don't move one of these poly techniques to that specific location, it's a very good place >> because centrally it can be able to support the economy and >> but besides that there's a lot that can be done there.

[00:48:46]>> Mhm.

[00:48:47]Poly techchnic could be one of the priorities. But again we can we can build a center of excellence that brings like those those training uh talent training right people will all go there. Sure. Yeah.

[00:49:16]restoring the glory.

[00:49:19]They lost. Yes. What exactly do you most of the people ask anybody that is exactly what we are saying? But previously what is the next?

[00:49:47]So currently we have been put in a very bad map in the news there's no constituenc not in a good way major cultural attraction most of these things uh Uh, that's a different story. But and and that is it is a joke that is being told not locally >> everywhere.

[00:50:37]>> Right.

[00:50:38]>> Yes. I don't know how or how we got there but uh instead of giving us this, give us a solution. Give us a solution.

[00:50:46]Mhm. Yeah.

[00:50:51]Congratul wise and determined and disputed. MP 2027 Brian whatever honorable Brian we make well tuned in and I'm in support with is the one who will fix the mess which is in church 2027 Lydia whatever our incoming MPH power is has been found all right Drund's last words all right okay a leader with great intention and good plans 2027 a leader who knows what is the meaning of development right in MP we will support you the savior of the poor we will support you comments there's The last question you have lost a person and I'm giving you a little Mhm.

[00:52:37]Yes.

[00:52:39]Sorry.

[00:52:54]Mhm.

[00:53:04]You will feel bad of course >> extremely >> that is the >> and it's not in one scenario >> somebody walked like today walked in.

[00:53:18]Mhm.

[00:53:23]Mhm.

[00:53:27]And it's not one you saw what happened. You are not new in what is happening.

[00:53:59]support.

[00:54:06]But because Yes. And we have tried to go through the we have a close attachment that attachment somebody might not have it.

[00:54:44]Yeah.

[00:54:47]And that's why we are giving a caution.

[00:55:05]Mhm.

[00:55:12]Even if you give them money.

[00:55:27]family, friends.

[00:55:52]That was the same.

[00:56:13]critics.

[00:56:17]You give a lot of promises, >> but you disappear. So, how will these people trust you? And why will they trust you?

[00:56:35]Yes.

[00:56:47]What I'm telling you is what I'm going to do 100%.

[00:56:58]Mhm.

[00:57:05]Yes.

[00:57:26]I'm giving you a priority.

[00:57:40]That is not something I need to lie about.

[00:57:59]So that is total lie. You can even tell when somebody is lying.

[00:58:14]So these things are something you can go straight forward. You don't want to lie.

[00:58:19]This is what we have gotten. This is what I'm going to do. Full stop. And I told you one thing. I'll engage the people.

[00:58:38]How do you understand?

[00:58:46]So how do you now that we are losing our culture?

[00:58:59]>> Okay.

[00:59:13]you can go on.

[00:59:17]So that diversity and trust me even after even And I'm not coming from as a person that is not the problem. That is what makes us strong as a people.

[00:59:44]They already No, no. It is opinion. But the best way So when you put this one that diversity is very important as a society.

[01:00:33]So I'm going to build on the strength, right?

[01:01:01]It's because you don't understand because You need to sit down together even for why I'm engaging even former leaders former former counelors understand and several several other former leadersh name them. They understand right in years coming in uh because we lost it. I'll take it from where he did a lot on education.

[01:02:28]I have a lot of passion on education but I also want to live as one who employed many youths.

[01:02:49]and they went and they working.

[01:02:54]Yes.

[01:02:55]>> You can only do that if you train them.

[01:03:12]If you did that one in a year, remember they can also do the same bicycle UK, but they'll get more money than so if you get all their documents driving once they have this documentation try to look for opportunity It is beyond because when the people even traveling there it is allowed it is everywhere and you can easily change a society I'll go in books as one who changed it is now because attachment and that is where the problem is. We want they have to be on a stand every other time.

[01:04:44]So I'll go down and I'll be one who will have changed the education and I also work with women better opportunities than what we are being given.

[01:04:58]>> Right.

[01:05:04]That is what you need.

[01:05:15]Right. Yes. Right.

[01:05:24]Yes.

[01:05:27]Mhm.

[01:05:29]Yes.

[01:05:36]Thank you.

[01:05:36]>> Yeah. I'm giving you a minute.

[01:05:39]Yes.

[01:05:55]2027 Because of the kind of I'll be available every time.

[01:06:59]So in 2027 Yes.

[01:07:08]Yes.

[01:07:09]Because we have lost a lot of money.

[01:07:11]Yes.

[01:07:12]>> We have lost a lot of opportunities.

[01:07:20]And this one I have to make it.

[01:07:50]Thank you so much.

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