Live : Orengo Speaks to Mulembe Nation!

Added: 2026-05-23

[00:00:00]There are countries that do this and it is not surprising to see that in Uganda, Tanzania, Ethiopia, Rwanda, the price of oil is lower than the price of oil in Kenya. And I do n't know which minister was saying that Kenya was more developed than its neighbors, which caused prices to go up. Well, now I don't know about the United States of America, where prices are lower, despite the fact that they are at war, and we are more developed than the United States of America.

[00:00:43]Therefore, I believe that our government does not have ambitious plans to ensure that the situation of the citizen becomes better. Oh, there are your brothers who were in the ODM party, talk to Ali Hassan Joho. They said they would make John Bad at that time. They were in the ODM party and they said that this William Ruto government is implementing things illegally. I even remember one day when the minister was in the national assembly he asked who advised you as ODM party and you gave them experts, meaning after the protests of the JZ youth, they said that there was a slight problem in William Ruto's government, in those days, the late old Raila Molo Odinga was still alive and said that he gave experts to go save Botilis Zame. Right now, they are accusing the Energy Minister John Baziri of finance. Look at how the current life of Kenyans is. These experts from the ODM party, brother Rengo, do you feel that they are experts?

[00:02:12]These experts, when experts fail to do their job, it is a great shame. It is even wrong that we said that they are experts because they are experts because they have knowledge in the oil industry, or you know what the business aspects of the oil industry are. I am not sure that you also claim that he has any expertise at all and even though I can say that he has knowledge of some kind, he is an academic, but I cannot call him a financial expert.

[00:02:57]But now, when the honorable man was a late honorable man, when he was giving them, he said that we have given experts to go and help the government. I think at that time you were still in ODM, you were firmly on the side of ODM, it was still one. If you hear the statements I made at that time, I said in a kiombo that the position they have obtained or have obtained is a poison chalic, meaning they are getting poison in a golden cup, thinking it is a bad drink, now I know that even they have seen that this is not an easy task and that at times you may think that you are a minister you have the power, but the power is still in the hands of the president, but you know they put Raila in very big problems. Raila did not want ODM to enter the government and ODM did not enter the government because if we had entered the government we would have had a contract or an agreement which shows that we have listened to each other, we have had a coalition government or a coalition government and we have some power. This current government is not an ODM and UDA government. The leader of that government is Ruto.

[00:04:29]Their appointments of these ministers are in the hands or the one who signed it is President Rut. Raila did not sign it when we had a grand coalition government.

[00:04:40]When I got the appointment as a minister, it had gone through the hands of Raila Amol Odinga as prime minister. Now you ca n't be in the government and there in parliament, the opposition leadership or the leadership of those few in parliament, eh, they are people, eh, and that's why Raila refused that we can't stop those cries because he knew this government is not an ODM or UDM government.

[00:05:19]This is Ruto's government and he has the power to remove these ministers at any time.

[00:05:26]Experts at that time, esteemed experts at that time, maybe Raila gave them there, you said that okay, it's not very good to be around because because Raila is not here to defend himself, but you said he was not in this government, he didn't support this government, a group that is deep. Linda Mwananchi Linda Linda Ground I mean, they say that Raila left them to the government, he says that we are in the government and that is what they move around saying that we left them to the government, what do you mean by saying that now, eh, this government was not put on the map, Raila didn't sign anywhere or didn't want to enter the government, that happens, you know, even in the United States, and Raila explained that you can have a government that is led by a Republican, Mr. President, like now, Trump, but he has the power to give people from the Democratic Party appointments in his government. Obama and Clinton had Republicans in their governments and here in Kenya there is nothing that stops the president from appointing any Kenyan who is capable and educated enough to be in the cabinet except that you cannot be an MP or you cannot be a governor or you cannot have an MCA and at the same time you are a minister. So these people are sure that and they know these experts know eh they flew there and even Raila when he was in Dubai said that don't swear until I get there myself although everyone is saying Raila tell me this Raila tells me this maybe today we too can understand what Raila said to you now what are you being told about these ministers I Raila call him if Dubai says I want to meet you at Jomo Kenyatta airport eh Jomo Kenyatta says no one I have told that I am returning today eh now he explained to me that these people had already left and everyone was saying he cannot be stopped by Raila eh now Raila told me that it would be very bad if it was seen that Ruto has taken about five or six people from the ODM party without the party's permission now he is saying let's find a suitable way to see that we have allowed them to enter the government and these people know that is the truth. There was a time when they even made plans to go to Dubai when they saw that Raila was being too difficult for them to enter the government. So this is something that Ruto himself planned himself. Oh and later Raila said let them go but we as the ODM party are still a strong party and we are preparing for the elections that will come in 2027. Okay. Oh I would like to know the friends that attacked the ODM party secretary general Edwin Sifuna until there was a meeting and they said that they had removed him as secretary general even though he went to court do you feel that there is something he should have done that is against the ideology of the ODM party eh how do you understand him or the problems he is going through he is going through because eh Raila is not there is because Raila is not there they started this war and we don't know when Raila was alive eh he was making statements on behalf of the party and they are starting to beat him eh Raila said you should know that the voice of the party is Edina he didn't say it once he said it several times m and seconds he has been with Raila for almost nine years eh working with Raila and I can say that despite who Professor Nyang eh is a person who gives him complete respect and he was the secretary general of the ODM party the founder of ODM I can say that the two of them were party secretaries who have brought us great respect and Sifuna was following the party rules the party constitution the constitution of our country Kenya because no matter what political parties must follow the constitution and laws of Kenya and he also had a saying that was completely patriotic so I see that our colleagues had already started to get away from Ruto and he saw that Sufuna had become a thorn in the side of Orango brother we have seen you working very hard with young leaders talk to the secretary general of the OD party Ahmedin Sufuna the MP for Emakasi East Babo Wino the MP from Saboti kale Bamisi senator Viga Godfothi do you feel that this is now the time for young people to lead what do you mean when you started this movement to protect the citizen many said that now Orengo is the coach say that Orengo sees that the politics of the country does not satisfy him he wants to put himself in the national arena and that is because you have started working with these young leaders you know that is how we started with Jaromobi Jana Muy had his old colleagues like Mliro the Shukus, the Bamarizs there was Kachoka who was and had been sent and Matiba there was Ndenge they were old people like me but there we had young people that is the young tax we were working together on the front line ah and I have seen that a party that has young people who have expertise and ability like Sifuna babo kalba, misi and wakinos that is a party that not now even in the future can strengthen the party you know people like Mandela started as young people eh the defense match of AMC 1950s then starting with you know mkonto wa Sizwe the spe of the nation yes yes in South Africa there were party leaders you know who have grown old but they saw that they wanted a young man like Mandela ah in those movements now they are fighting hard and with the government of South Africa the racist government they saw that they must have young people eh in those movements and now even I got guidance from jaramuge mliro and we were many Raila Wamalo of the young people there was Nyangnyo there was Kitobo Manyara we were Mkisa Kitu mhm Eh we were working together eh and there were times we were a commission a commission formed a separate team eh like sometimes I was and I go to the beach camp with mliro mh eh and you know mliro worked with Well, now he knew a lot of leaders on the coast, now we will hold a lot of meetings and he was a great leader, so I see that any party that does not have young people who are capable like Yasfu and Babu, such a party will not be in a good situation in the future.

[00:14:38]Okay. Thank you Agob James 2027070545736887 FM yes safe safe is west yes abdal audio M I just wanted to ask you about the agreement that made ODM and UD go together where did the agreement go and this agreement why are you not interested now we are just hearing things I don't know how many times what was in that agreement what was inside because I hear from the people of Ufekwa I don't know how many times my colleague is where I can't explain what was inside thank you Membe FM hello.

[00:16:09]FM Yes, very good, welcome to the governor's office, James Orengo, who has survived from Dandora.

[00:16:24]Hmm. Your question. My question is for James, the goal is this, I think the things and this Linda thing, this son, if he says he is the party leader of ODM and if you look at the ODM constitution, it says the party leader is the one who automatically becomes the presidential candidate, so he wants to be the presidential candidate of Mananma, is an agency. The second question of the last one, this car that we saw yesterday talking very badly about Kenyan women, which he talked about Gladis Wanga, who is the governor of Hom, my question is, will he apologize or will he still listen to the one who reads that he will apologize?

[00:17:10]Thank you Mrembe FM, governor, three questions here, three questions. The first was an agreement, there was no agreement at all.

[00:17:25]No instruments, no agreement signing anywhere, and there is nothing, nothing, nothing, where Raila and Ruto signed is something called the 10 point agenda, and in that 10 point agenda, they said that the agreement did not give the ODM party or the UDA party the strength to have a coalition government between these two parties, and Raila and Ruto said that the 10 conditions of the Gen Agenda must be fulfilled first before discussing matters of forming a government. of a coalition or a coalition government or any other type of government. So with this broadbase government, this is a compromise.

[00:18:22]According to you, those 10 points agenda are there, some are being implemented, some have not been implemented, okay, there is the issue of protecting the citizen, the issue of protecting the citizen, we have explained it very well and if you read the ODM constitution, the presidential candidate of the ODM party does not have to be the party leader, you know there was another time when people paid the nomination money of the Joho family, one billion shillings, Raila also gave his one million, eh, so even now, what is the constitution of ODM, that the presidential candidate must be chosen by ODM members, what percentage, maybe what percentage of members, that is, that is based on the delegates conference, hm, the M conference is about 3000 people. Now, if they pass those requirements and are elected by a delegate congress, which can be a national or special delegate congress, then that person can become a presidential candidate. A guy from Dandora and he has explained that we also don't like the presidential candidate, eh, this is a sensitive issue and that I also said during the day that we don't like the ink-stained Usosi brothers who have the ability to become presidents of the Republic of Kenya, okay, a guy from Dandoro says that there are statements that you made yesterday.

[00:20:09]Oh, the speaker says but he didn't say what I said.

[00:20:12]Oh, maybe you know you spoke in Doluo and he would say yes, I'm just starting to answer. I mean, I had a long speech and today I received news that there is a letter that the governor of Homab has written to me but I haven't received it, which is like an apology.

[00:20:35]Ah but you say I will have to read it even though we cannot prove if there is a letter written or not yet meaning those remarks that we cannot also prove meaning you said the speech was long it tried to bring about a conversation that maybe they sent a bill to the parliament not to impeach the office you have heard that parliament parliament parliament parliament not county assembly many times they have said they are bringing impeachment not the first time but it would be very strange things that the remarks that someone has made in a political speech were a political political speech which was not in my normal working situation that that could have a ground there is a little there honorable Mr. Shem there should be a little there at least you can it is acceptable so what do you mean that you can if it is a political meeting not when you are in the residents office you can go aside a bit and there are remarks that in the constitution of Kenya Freedom of Expression the constitution says there are things that you cannot accept he said m eh if things that are to cause you know ethnic excitement are clearly stated in the constitution now tell me a constitutional or legal provision tell me from ehe constitution a certain provision has dried up okay ah society of Mlembe, when we talk about the Mlembe community, you see that the relationship between our brothers from the Nyanza region and the western community has been for a long time, even when you see when there is a match between FC and Gormaya it is called a mashemeji dabi because of the excitement you political people will get together and you look at the numbers even a little dance like this when we look at the number of the Mlembe community, the large number, you feel that their number has not helped them in any way in the leadership of the Kenyan nation, I can say that we have all benefited, you know when Jaramoge passed away, we supported him in every way, he is the son of Omar leading Ford Kenya. And that too, my position was that our leader is the son of Marwa. So I say that overall we will have good relations, even politically.

[00:23:45]But I see that if we follow the fundamentals of ODM carefully, it is not necessary for a Luo or a Mkhi to be the leader in the ODM party.

[00:24:03]Seeing that the ODM party is a party that has strength and power throughout Kenya and I am sure that this partnership will continue as you see me and Sifuna and Ososi there are people like Uundo we are many m who we have worked with in the past when m eh when fighting for multiple parties you found that there were parts of the parliamentarians many many many refused to work with mlio m and jaramogi they were fighting for multiple system we were associated with those elders now even now in the Luo community and in the Luya community we have people whom I call tumbo crks honorable who look after the tumbo personal gain now it is very difficult to work with them but if you come let's say kusumu eh ososi and na sufur they have a lot of respect mh me and your father when we go big brother m we get a lot of respect Mhm.

[00:25:32]Now we must build a national party like the one in South Africa. You get the impression that the Fosa president comes from a very small community.

[00:25:44]And in another ward, the Mandela family were not from a large community like the Wazudu, they came from a minority community that is half Wazu.

[00:25:54]So the party we are building will be the best way to implement what we want Kenya to be and that is my position. And now, Mr. James, I think you are walking with our very young leaders, especially like the Sifunas. An opinion piece came out yesterday saying that Sifuna has a certain percentage of presidential ambitions. Do you believe in their leadership? They can take the country as a seat of power, like the presidency, for young leaders.

[00:26:29]You know I can't be with them and then set conditions. Hey. Hey, I realize that I don't know if he has the power, but if he has the power, then he has the power, so we, as the protectors of the people, will decide what to do, okay, you said that they should go, but the important thing is that Ruto must go home.

[00:26:57]Oh you said that you are the ODM party leader de facto, let's make it clear to the person who listens to you and has visited the ODM party since it was founded, we have seen the waves that have hit the ODM party and when you speak on political platforms in ODM meetings, you say that the ODM party is the biggest here in Kenya, in East Africa and even North of Limpopo and you know you can mention it, the future of the ODM party at the moment, meaning if you look at the party leader of the ODM party who constitutionally maybe you know the legal issues even you say I don't want I don't want I don't want I start pretending that the constitution is here, oh the ODM party constitution you said that it had clearly stated that if or what it tells us, what if a party leader leaves, who should take over what position and what should be done after how many days, it has been clearly stated that the one who should take over, you know that the party leader is one of the deputy party leaders, it would be a secret, it would be a secret, the governor of Mombasa, but they did a trick a day before Raila's body was brought back here Kenya.

[00:28:32]In the State House, President Rutoa, along with Junette Wanga and these two governors, no, two party leaders, they are actually governors, Nasir and Rimba, they said right there that they would appoint Dr. uru as a party leader without constitutional authority.

[00:29:01]We were even at the airport when Dr. He was explaining that now that he was the party leader, he was very surprised how it had come about.

[00:29:14]Now that was a violation of the constitution of the country and there was no way that you could be cleared of that act. And you also know that in the Luo community, when an old man dies, you cannot enter his home, it must be about four days before he is buried. hm but this guy we have not confirmed that it is true that Rahela is dead to make sure I had her bag it has not reached Kenya hm and they have made changes in the party hm even when the pope in Rome dies it must be 30 days 30 zip and when he dies they tap his head with a little bug to see if he is dead or really dead hm and and after burying him it takes time hm where the cardinals are called there until the white smoke comes but this was like the ODM party is a party of understanding which I say the king is dead long the king according to you because there's always a succession according to you hon. James what do you see or what do you feel was the main reason to say that Uburu is the party leader i.e. there were those in the OD party who were doing business with the Uji party and they saw that if we were free hm hm we would have a good environment hm to do this business while they were doing it with the party and they continue to do that business and hm you see hm the Kenyan government has ODM funds of about 12 billion shillings hm and if they had tracked that money the Wajimu party would have had a very big power but now They are relying on the contribution from President Ruto to make this money from President Ruto, they want mashopers from the Mlembe community, there are also some leaders who feel that they should be at the table in 2027.

[00:31:52]Name the secretary general of the ODN party, Sifuna.

[00:31:56]Name the former Saboti MP, Hamisi.

[00:31:59]Name the governor of Tranzoya County, George.

[00:32:02]I walk.

[00:32:04]Your relationship is probably very good with leaders from the west.

[00:32:07]Even when they had a meeting in Ososi, I walk with Sifuna and Undo. Yesterday there was a meeting and we were told that we will have this meeting and this meeting is important because we do not want Kasongono to enter the western region. We said that we will also have a meeting in Nyanza and we will have a meeting that involves the people of the west, the Luhi, the Luo and the Kisi. It is not that we want to have tribal politics, but to see that the rights of those counties that we are putting in place, we call it the economic region, we have protected their rights and also if there is something that one of us deserves to have in the republic of Kenya. Let's fight together.

[00:33:08]Oh, we protect the citizen, oh, we have a governor who is walking around, he has not made himself clear whether we know if he is Linda Mwananchi or maybe he is working with former deputy president Rigadhi Gashagwa. There are many leaders who I can say are from the opposition, mention Steven Kalonzo Musioka, mention Dr. Alfred Mati. We have seen the hand of the fourth president of the republic of Kenya, Kenyatta, trying to talk to some leaders who are in the opposition and his deputy, the chairman, D Fred Matiang, even yesterday said that he is calling on Kenyans not to accept the passage of the 2026 budget bill.

[00:33:51]Ah, the number of leaders who are now in the opposition is large, you feel that it is a sad and worrying thing that there will come a time when Sifuna will say I stand, oh, G, say I stand, you know I want Kenyans not to worry, oh, in 202, we had so many parties and so many advocates, there was Raila himself, there was Kibaki, there was Sai Toti, they all announced that they wanted to be presidents, who was this lady from Charity Ngidu, there were Wamalwa, they all had clearly announced that they would give them the presidency and it came to a time when there were meetings, the last meeting was at Serena Hotel, Raila did extra work to talk to each group, then when we went to Uhuru Park, he, Raila, announced that enough was enough and that, oh, everyone came out of the Uhuru compound saying that they had decided that the opposition candidate was Uhuru Kenyatta, Kalonzo, Saitoti, Raila himself, and Ngilu, who did not agree much and was there, was a minister in Nyachar.

[00:35:29]Okay.

[00:35:29]So we have time, we must build these parties so that we can be in a situation where we can say that even if we have a coalition government, everyone will have some power.

[00:35:48]370705457368870 Facebook fanpage many have asked questions there is him Faraji Kimnyala says revolution eats its own children priest Kanyatta says Mana they are listening to Isaiah Musonye get me loud and clear Peter Makuto eh Moses Zyole is also listening we are with David Nyambati he says Orengo you are a legend God bless you always mrembe FM hello hello welcome Simon very welcome Shundu eh I am fine I am fine I am fine with Luelo we are fine your question your question below we are very grateful how he is pushing this young people of Linda country and also the kuma kifuri to ensure that this team this city will be strong there is a fear that people are asking each other that they are not following your plan to unite with Mnyoro and you hear Mnyoro his practice of beating his chest and pushing the agenda of the politics of the clan at home I do not know if you will unite with him and they even say if you unite with him what will happen and he is a person who is biased towards one side and he is a person who supports the politics of tribalism honorable j thank you m floata and honorable is okay welcome ask honorable Jim Sorengo, the father of the constitution, is it true that Linda Mwananchi will be established as a party or the second question will they join with other parties on the condition that they will oppose Ruto or the last question is whether Mr. Jengo, who has been a prominent politician for many years, has announced that he is the one who will change and will stand for president to defeat Ruto or okay, you say that, sorry, two questions, almost four. First, if you join former deputy president Rigadhi Gashagwa who said that he has shown many times that he is leaning towards the mountain, what will happen if you work with him or if you join with other people, he should stay out. If you listen to the remarks of the secretary general of Audien, Mr. Eden Sifuna, he was saying that why we cannot form an alliance to support each other is because the values ​​of the UDA party are different from our OD party. Now we are closely monitoring the values ​​of other parties to see if they are parties with which we can work together. But I want to say that this is a business of working with other parties, we have not decided. We still see that we as Linda Mwananchi have the ability to go to the citizens as Linda Mwananchi and appoint people to different positions from the position of president to the position of member of the county assembly. But I can't say that in the future it's impossible that we can work with other parties. As I have shown, in 2020 we did not know that Kibaki could work with Raila or we did not know that Charilo and Wamalo could work with Raila or with anyone and Kibaki, so I ask you to wait until we build our ODM Linda Mwananchi party and when the time comes when we will start dealing with matters, matters of having those who will stand in different colleges and the most important is the position of president, we will be able to clearly explain to the people who we can work with. There is a conspiracy to register the Linda Mwananchi movement as a party.

[00:40:53]Currently, we say that the spirit and soul of Raila is in Linda Mwananchi and we cannot accept that Raila's party be taken over by political enemies, so we are still making a statement to see that we have liberated our party.

[00:41:17]Okay.

[00:41:17]Oh, there are some young people from western Kenya who feel that they have not had opportunities in this government of President William Ruto. They are listening to you.

[00:41:27]Many are now disappointed. The other day we had a voter registration exercise. Many said that why do I register and when I vote, it is not the result of my vote. Maybe if you could talk to young people like these who are currently listening to you through the phone? I sincerely urge you to register as voters. There is this unrest, there is a card, let them be involved in that unrest because all these problems cannot be solved.

[00:42:02]ah and another entity other than a party that consists of leaders who have been elected and entered the government. If I look at the situation in the western region, it has wealth and very good land, but there is a problem: people have no jobs.

[00:42:24]If you see companies like Paper, the government sold them in a way that is not right for Mumias to work very well and I pray that in order for us to get real change we must vote and Western Kenya has been in the forefront since the time of the struggle for independence, as I have counted the Mliro brothers, the Wamadwa brothers and here in Tapiga there were many deep Utiende leaders who brought change to our country, the Shikupu brothers. So don't stay home, take your vote home.

[00:43:16]Your vote is important.

[00:43:19]And it has been said, perhaps just to shed some light, that many of these young people should go vote because they see that our vote is valid. Will you, like Linda Mwananchi, ensure that our vote is counted this time round? Will the youth vote and have it count this time round?

[00:43:33]We first want to look at IBC.

[00:43:36]IBC status. You know there is a very important law in the elections act which states that the technology equipment that the IBC uses during the election period must be inspected and the conditions of those equipment must be checked by the parties and even during the vote and after the vote, you know when we were doing the Raila petition in 2017 we wanted to know the condition of that server, now they said that the server is in France and the people of France are still sleeping right now, also the campaign that provides technology and equipment is a campaign from Venezuela and Venezuela has no respect for having a government that has been democratically elected. Now we must listen carefully to the fact that the IBC body is beginning to preside over free and fair elections.

[00:44:52]Okay. Oh, we're saying goodbye, in four minutes we'll be letting you leave. But just the last question, do you feel that in 2027 the Mlembe community could perhaps have a leader who will say that he is mature enough to seek the presidency?

[00:45:08]there are many and msifuna is one of those who can say without you know fear that he has power m ah babu wino also for the Luos he has power okay the good fortune is that in the chanda mwananchi party eh we have people who have power no matter what party I have power but we must have discipline like Mandela used to say that when you have a party where people have discipline and it is a party that protects the rights of the people you can sit down and then marry as a leader you say this is the way and that is the leader thank you very much governor Orengo for taking your time to come and talk to the mlembe community I know there are many things that we could sell but because of the time and activities that you have we ask that we come to the end your last word to the Kenyan and the host from western Kenya my last thing that the survey that was conducted yesterday showed that Linda Mwananchi is at the top in popularity in Kenya and we ask Kenyans to be the ones who protect the people and currently we are planning several meetings this next week we will be in Machakos from there we will go to meru and later other parts of Kenya thank you very much okay he said that Kenya has progressed beyond these The neighbors are what made the price go up.

[00:47:09]Now I don't know about the United States of America, which is lower, even though they are at war, we are and we are in a more developed state than the United States of America.

[00:47:23]Therefore, I believe that our government does not have a clear plan to ensure that the situation of the citizen becomes better. Oh, there are your relatives who were in the ODM party, spokesperson Ali Hassan Joho, Paranya's supporters John Madi were in the ODM party at that time and they said that this William Ruto government is implementing things illegally. I remember one day, the minister, who was in the national assembly, asked who came from the ODM party and gave them to you as experts, after the protests by the JZ youth, they said that there was a slight problem in William Ruto's government, in those days, the late old Raila Odinga was still alive, he said that he gave experts to go and save Botis, right now, Mapandai, the minister of finance, look at how life is now in Kenya, these ODM party experts, brother Rengo, do you feel that these experts are failing in their work, it is a great shame, even though we said that they are experts because of their knowledge in the oil industry or in what matters of the oil industry, I am not sure that you have any expertise at all, and although I can say that he has knowledge of some people, he is an academic, but I cannot call him a financial expert.

[00:49:37]Now, your honor, when you were a respectable person and when he was giving them, he said that we have given experts to help the government. I think at that time, you were still holding on to the thousandth side, let's continue.

[00:49:53]Thank you very much and I feel like you have given us a great honor to come here to Mlembe station.

[00:50:00]My name is James Orengo, a resident of Siaya, the governor of Siaya, but you did not realize that I am the de facto governor of Siaya, I wanted you to say DM Lenda Mwananchi, we say very close, honorable sir, then you have recognized yourself as de facto, Linda Mwananchi, let's start with ODM at this time, it is coming. Now, ODM has a squad in ODM, who has sold the party and has formed the party of Raila Amolo Odinga and others who have worked for 20 years to ensure that we have a strong party, a party of values ​​that is to help the people, but we, on the part of Ninda Mwananchi, have said that these are our party, we must protect them and we will fight until the last minute.

[00:51:11]But pundits have said recently that Linda Mwananchi has 73% of followers or awareness.

[00:51:26]Hmm.

[00:51:28]Eh, compared to Linderground, which is 24, are you now starting to know or realize which side the power is on?

[00:51:39]Okay. Your Excellency, people know you as a defender of the constitution. Oh, it didn't start today, it didn't start yesterday. Many have seen Agry Bob James Orengo as someone who, when he goes to court to defend an ordinary citizen, means the truth. Do you feel that Kenya's current national leaders respect the constitution?

[00:52:00]I see that they do not respect it because if I start with the very important position of the president, according to the Kenyan constitution, we wanted it to be recognized that the power and authority are in the hands of the people and that Kenya is not a monarchy and it seems that the procedures of the leadership are still ongoing and people are taking the seat of the president of Kenya, it is like taking someone who has the ability to get anything and it is not the constitution that wanted it to come to that the citizen that the president does not get the opportunity to do things that are necessary and the president will not sell it to us. At some point it was accepted that the president can come and stand anywhere and announce things but now this constitution I want anything that will have the force of law must be right now I have problems that even though there are many things that we can do about the leadership that is like that of the royal leadership, everyone must be seen by the president, everyone wants to be red and red and that is different, you had that your colleagues who removed and I do not have guards, all those who are continuing, for my mistake and the case and things today I did not get a note of all the mails, oh I have not been told why but you know we have had a court case that involved those who were in a state of not having even I have heard so many people and our coats have explained perfectly that the leader leader which is something that every person's soul is in danger now I don't know you know you can lack protection even for a minute like Toboa eh afternoon Saturday July 5 July he was here in Nairobi going to his shop he was Sunday when he got there already Jam Karuki was not there and he was taken there and later the body was found in Ngong now I don't know what will happen to me but the blame will be on the government you think maybe after those guards were removed it is because ah you are a rebel of the government.

[00:56:15]Rebel in what way?

[00:56:17]Maybe you don't want to work with Dr. William Ruto's government and get involved with the Linda Mwananchi wing? I don't know why, maybe what you're saying is true, but if so, it's a very serious mistake because we have freedom of opinion, speech, and action. I think the question, hon., is that maybe because I am not sure whether you are protecting the citizen and your group or your ODM party on the government side, those who are probably the leaders who we say are holding these hours on the government side, you see that you are probably on the side of Linda Mwananchiasi, that is why the trouble, I cannot know because there are times when guards are provided to leaders and not the leader, one month he finds himself in that situation, five or six people, steps are taken by the government to provide those soldiers, but for now it is only me, now I do not know what mistakes I have made and okay, you are a lawyer, what does the law say about government employees like you having guards, what does the law say on that side, the law says that it is the government's responsibility to provide us with guards and I say Kenyan courts, that is, the high court has explained this very clearly, there was a time when the government took action in this government and that government passed every time a case like that, if you go to court, the court decides that the guards should be returned to the leader.

[00:58:08]Now now to say that there are two things, they turn to the law, oh and follow them, they do not follow the instructions of the high court So do you believe that either you think that in the future there must be a law that prevents either the government of the country from depriving the security guards of some leaders or is it just that the law is there that there is no law so it is just against the law that it is against the law and this seems to be their behavior.

[00:58:41]These are the characteristics of this government. It's not just me, two young Busia people have been killed for no reason.

[00:58:50]And there are others who have been killed here in Kenya in extra-traditional killings. There are these abductions.

[00:58:58]What are the things that are being violated? CTI judgments. So it's not a coincidence, it seems that in general this government has the reputation of not following up on the law, Your Excellency, if you look at it right now, the cost of living has increased, the price of fuel has gone up, that's why yesterday, on Monday and Tuesday, the drivers refused to go to work at all, demanding that the government lower the price of fuel.

[00:59:32]And you are the ones who protect the citizen.

[00:59:34]Currently, a citizen is suffering and says that it is unbearable, life has become difficult.

[00:59:39]What strategies are you taking to ensure that you, as the Linda Mwananchi wing, defend the vegetable woman who was promised that life would be good but things were not? Oh, we are on the side of the citizens who are experiencing a lot of problems because of the high standard of living and we have issued our statements in general and even I personally issued a statement yesterday when I was in Siaya you see those people from the matatu and other transporters were protesting, we supported them and we said that maybe we should give them a chance first so that it doesn't look like we are inciting these transporters but this matter is a very important matter and we as citizens will continue to defend the citizens and the government without taking steps to worsen the standard of living.

[01:00:48]We are thinking of taking other steps, you know, even the finance bill is almost here and those and yesterday, not even the day before yesterday, we saw the deputy chairman of the Jubilee Party, Fred Matiangi, calling on Kenyans not to accept the bill so that it can pass, saying that if it passes, the lives of Kenyans will be more difficult.

[01:01:11]It will be very difficult, and with the price of oil having gone up, and these colleagues of ours are saying that oil is going up because of the war between Ukraine and the United States of America. I mean, if the war continues for two or three years, I don't see how they will reduce the cost of living. And you know some countries have programs that can help reduce the cost of living.

[01:01:51]Other taxes can be released, or they can be reduced, or perhaps you can have an intervention to put money in, budget support, budget support, as we were saying now that if the government starts giving about 10 billion shillings, to see that the burden of the railway, the burden of the cost of living, the cost of living is reduced, that is possible because you see that now our president is going to Azerbaijan, Baku, and he is using a private jet, so for one trip alone he has spent about 100 million shillings, that money if it had been used to help the citizens, for example, the oil price issue would have been more appropriate, but now we have a president who has become like a scoundrel there, he was called Vasco Dagama because he was always on the road, now in Kenya we also only have Basco de Gama, so according to you, what do you think that if you were president, what would you do to at least ensure that this oil price is at least stable for a normal Kenyan citizen in the future, because now it is something that we always have, it is like we have politicized oil so much that we forget now the ordinary citizen is suffering, you know, even this G2G program It would be a step to enable the price of oil to be the same because it is government to government, without business people, to push the price up, but it seems that the plan has been interfered with by individuals, yes, I see that other oils have entered Kenya, which are oils that are not suitable, there is also something that in English they call futures, that is, you look at the prices of oil or anything that the country wants, you look at it for 10 or 20 years and you talk to the customer or the person who sells that oil, you say I will pay you a price that will remain the same for five or 20 years, there are countries that do that and it is not a miracle to see that in Uganda, Tanzania, Ethiopia, Rwanda the price of oil is lower than the price of oil in Kenya. And I do n't know which minister was saying that Kenya was more developed than its neighbors, which is why prices went up. Well, now I don't know about the United States of America, where prices are lower, despite the fact that they are at war, and we are more developed than the United States of America.

[01:05:15]Therefore, I believe that our government does not have ambitious plans to ensure that the situation of the citizen becomes better. Oh, there are your brothers who were in the ODM party, talk to Ali Hassan Joho, the claimants, Wikifu wa Paranya, John Bad were in the ODM party at that time and they said that this William Ruto government is implementing things illegally. I even remember one day, the minister who was in the national assembly asked who gave advice to you as an ODM party, you gave them as experts, after the protests of the JNZ youth, they said that there was a slight problem in the William Ruto government, in those days, the late old Raila Molo Odinga was still alive, he said that he gave experts to go and save the botulism, right now, the minister of finance, look at how the current life of Kenyans is, these experts from the ODM party, brother Rengo, do you feel that they are helping, that is, they are experts, these experts, when experts are denied work, it is a great shame, it is even wrong that we said that they are experts because they are experts in the oil industry, or you know what the business aspects of the oil industry are, I am not sure that he also has any expertise at all, and although I can say that he has some knowledge, he is an academic, but I cannot call him a financial expert.

[01:07:29]But now, when the honorable man was a late honorable man, when he was giving them, he said that we have given experts to go and help the government. I think at that time you were still in ODM, you were firmly on the side of ODM, it was still one. If you hear the statements I made at that time, I said in a sarcastic tone that the position they have obtained or may have obtained is a poison chalice, meaning they are getting poison in a golden cup, thinking it is a bad drink.

[01:08:04]Now I know that even they have seen that this is not an easy task and that at times you may think that you are a minister and you have the power, but the power and authority are still in the hands of the president, but you know that they put Raila in very serious problems. Raila did not want ODM to enter the government and ODM did not enter the government because if we had entered the government, we would have had a contract or agreement that shows that we have listened to each other, we have had a coalition government or a coalition government and we have some power. This current government is not an ODM and UDA government. The leader of that government is Ruto.

[01:09:01]The appointments of these ministers are in the hands of either President Ruto or the one who signed them. Raila did not put his hand when we had a grand coalition government, when I got the appointment as a minister it had gone through Raila Mol Odinga's hand as prime minister now you can't either, it is impossible for you to be in the government and there in parliament, the opposition leadership or the leadership of those who are few in parliament, eh, they are people, odi, that is, eh, and that Raila refused that we cannot stop those cries because he knew this government is not an ODM government and this is a Ruto government and he has the power to remove these ministers at any time, experts at that time and at that time, honorable, let's call experts at that time, honorable, maybe Raila gave them there, you said that okay, it's not very good to talk, he is not here to defend himself, but you said he was not, eh, for this government, he did not support this government, a group that is deep Linda Mwananchi Linda Linda ground I mean they say that Raila left them for the government, he said that we are for the government and that is what they move around saying that we left them for the government, what do you mean by saying that now, eh, this government was not put in place, Raila is not in a place or wants to enter the government.

[01:10:40]That happens you know even in America and Raila explained this that you can have a government that is led by Republicans like now Trump but he has the ability to give people from the Democratic Party appointments in his government Obama Clinton had Republicans in their governments eh and here in Kenya there is nothing that stops the president eh there is no Kenyan eh who is capable eh and educated enough to be in the cabinet eh except that you cannot be an MP or you cannot be a governor or you cannot be an MCA and at that time you are a minister so these people are sure that and these experts know eh they flew there and even Raila when he was in Dubai said that do not swear until I arrive myself although everyone is saying Raila tell me this Raila is telling me this maybe today we can also understand what Raila said to you what were you told about these ministers I Raila call him like Dubai he says I want to meet you at Jomo Kenyatta airport eh now he explained to me that these people had already left and everyone was saying he cannot be stopped by Raila m eh now Raila told me that it would be very bad if it were to be seen that Ruto had kidnapped about five or six people from the ODM party without the party's permission. Now he says we should find an appropriate way to show that we have allowed them to enter the government and these people know that is the truth. There was a time when they even made plans to go to Dubai when they saw that Raila was being too difficult for them to enter the government. So this is something that Ruto himself planned himself. And then Raila said let them go but we as the ODM party are still a strong party and we are preparing for the upcoming elections which will come in 2027. Okay. Oh I would like to know the friends that attacked the ODM party secretary general Edwin Sifuna until there was a meeting and they said that they had removed him as secretary general even though he went to court do you feel that there is something he should have done that is against the ideology of the ODM party eh how do you understand him or the problems he is going through he is going through because eh Raila is not there is because Raila is not there they started this war and sifuna when Raila was alive eh he was making statements on behalf of the party and they are starting to beat sifuna Raila said you should know that the voice of the party is Eden Se he did not say once he said several times m and sifuna has been with Raila for almost nine years eh working with Raila I can say that despite who Professor Nyang eh he is a person who gives him complete respect and he was the secretary general of the ODM party the founder of ODM I can say that these two have been party secretaries who have brought us great respect and sifuna was following the party rules the party constitution the constitution of our country Kenya because no matter what political parties must follow the constitution and laws of Kenya and he also had a saying that was completely patriotic so I see that these colleagues had already started to get Eh from Ruto and he saw that sufuna had become a thorn in the side of ah brother Orengo we have seen you working really hard with young leaders m eh talk to the secretary general of the OD party Ahmedin Sifuna the MP for Embakasi East babo Wino ah MP from Saboti kale Bamisi senator county viga god for do you feel that this is now the ah time for young people to lead what do you mean when you started this Linda Mwananchi movement many citizens said that now Orengo is the coach m that Orengo sees that it is as if the politics of that country does not satisfy him he wants to put himself in the national arena and that is because you have started working with these young leaders you know that is how we started with Jaromobi Yesterday one of them had his old colleagues like Mliro the Shukus, the Bamarizs there was Kachoka which he had and he had been sent by and Matiba, there was Ndenge they were old men like me but there we had young people i.e. the young tax We were working together on the front lines. Oh and I have seen that a party that has young people who have expertise and ability like Sifuna Baboin Kalebi and Wakinos that is a party that is not now even in the future is starting to strengthen the party like Mandela they started as young people eh the ANC defense match 1950s then the start of you know mkonto wa Sizwe the spear of the nation yes yes in South Africa in South Africa there were party leaders you know who have grown old but they saw that they wanted a young man like Mandela eh in those movements now they are fighting hard and and and and and and and and and and and the racist government of South Africa government saw that they must have young people eh in those movements and now even me we got guidance from Jaramuge Mliro and we were many Raila Wamala of the young man there was Nyangnyo there was Kitubi Mwanyara we were He was Mkisa Kitui eh we were working together eh and there were times we were a commission eh we were a commission to form a separate team eh like sometimes I was and I go to the beach camp with Mliro eh and you know Mliro worked with Ngala eh now he knew a lot of leaders On the coast now we will hold many meetings, and Mliro was a great leader, so I see that any party that does not have young people who are capable like Sifi and Babu, such a party cannot have a good situation in the future.

[01:19:11]Okay. Thank you Bob James Orengo 2027 is enough 070545736887 Yes. Good afternoon, how are you?

[01:20:03]This is Abdalla from West Abdallah audio.

[01:20:11]I wanted to tell you about the agreement that made ODM and UD go together.

[01:20:18]Where did the agreement go?

[01:20:21]Why don't you listen? Now we only hear about it. What was in that agreement? Here, let's explain what was in it.

[01:20:31]Because I hear YouTube people, I don't know what was in it.

[01:20:38]Okay, thank you, Mrembe FM. Hello, yes, Ndlema. Welcome. Hello, hello to Wanga.

[01:20:51]Governor James Orengo.

[01:20:53]He has survived from Dandora.

[01:20:56]Your question.

[01:20:58]My question is for Gawa and Jameso.

[01:21:04]I think this is Linda's issue.

[01:21:06]If she says she is the party leader of ODM. If you look at the ODM constitution, it says that the party leader automatically becomes the presidential candidate.

[01:21:17]Therefore, she wants to be the presidential candidate of Mwananchi. Or is she an agency? The second and last question is this madari, who we saw yesterday speaking, made very bad statements about Kenyan women, which he spoke about Wanga, who is the governor of Homf.

[01:21:37]My question is, will he apologize or will he read that? he will apologize thank you Mrembe FM today ah governor three questions here eh three questions the first one was there was a contract there was no contract Father not at all no instruments, no agreement no any signing somewhere anywhere. No, no, no. Something that Raila and Ruto signed was something called the 10 point agenda. And there in that trend point agenda they said that the agreement did not give the ODM or UDA parties the strength to have a coalition government between these two parties.

[01:22:27]Ed.

[01:22:28]And Raila and Ruto said that the 10 conditions of the Gen Agenda must be fulfilled first.

[01:22:41]before discussing matters of forming a coalition or a coalition government or any other type of government. So this broadbase government is a bureaucracy.

[01:22:54]According to you, are any of the 10 agenda points being implemented?

[01:22:58]Where is it not implemented?

[01:23:00]Okay. Is there a question about Linda Mwananchi?

[01:23:03]Swala Linda Mwananchi Sipona has explained it very well and if you read the ODM constitution, the ODM presidential candidate does not have to be the party leader. You know, there was a time when people paid one billion shillings for nominations to the Johos and Paranyas.

[01:23:30]Raila also donated one million. So even now, the ODM constitution states that the presidential candidate must be chosen by ODM members. What percentage, maybe what percentage of members, that is, that is based on the daily conference conference, it is about 3000 people right now, if they go through those conditions, eh, and are elected by the delegate congress, it can be a national special delegate congress, then that person can be a presidential candidate, a guy from Dandora, and he has explained that we also don't like things for a presidential candidate, eh, this is a sensitive issue, and that even I said during the day that we don't like the ink brothers of the Usosi, they have the ability to become presidents of the republic, okay, a guy from Dandora says that there are statements that you made yesterday, he says, eh, but what did I say?

[01:24:45]Oh, maybe you know you spoke in Doluo and he would say yes, I'm just starting to answer. I mean, I had a long speech and today I received news that there is a letter that the governor of Homs has written to me but I haven't received it, which is like an apology.

[01:25:07]Ah but you say I will have to read it even though we cannot confirm if there is a letter written or not yet meaning those remarks that we cannot also confirm meaning you said the speech was long it tried to bring about a conversation that maybe they sent a bill to the parliament not to impeach the office you have heard that the parliament parliament parliament not the county assembly have often said they are bringing impeachment not the first time but it would be very strange things that the remarks that someone has made in a political speech were a political political speech that were in my normal working situation that that could have a ground there is a little there honorable Mr. Shem there should be a little there at least you can be accepted so what do you mean that you can if it is a political meeting not when you are in the residents office you can go aside a bit and there are remarks that in the constitution of Kenya Freedom of Expression the constitution says there are things that you cannot be accepted to say m eh if things that are to cause you know ethnic excitement are clearly stated in the constitution now tell me a constitutional or legal provision tell me from ehe constitution a certain provision has dried up ah the mlembe community when we are talking The Lembbe community, you see that the relationship between our brothers from the Nyanza region and the western community has been for a long time, even when you see when there is a match between FC and Gormaya it is called a mashemeji dabi because of the political excitement you will get married and you look at the numbers, even a little dance like this, if we look at the numbers, the number of the Lembbe community is a large number, you feel that their number has not helped them in any way in the leadership of the Kenyan nation, I can say that we have all benefited, you know at the time when Jaramoge was in the world, we supported him in any way, he did not come from Umarwa to lead Ford Kenya. And that too, my position was that our leader is a Marwa boy. So I say that overall we have good relations, even politically.

[01:28:17]But I see that if we follow the fundamentals of ODM carefully, it is not necessary for a Luo or a Mkisi to be the leader in the ODM party.

[01:28:36]Seeing that the ODM party is a party that has strength and power throughout Kenya and I am sure that this partnership will continue as you see me and Sefuna and Ososi there are people like Undo we are many m who we work together and in the past when we were fighting for multiple parties you found that there were sections of parliamentarians many many many refused to work together Mulilo m and Jaramogi eh they were fighting for multiple system we were associated with those elders now even now in the Luo community and in the Luwa community we have people whom I call Tumbo CRS esteemed who look after Tumbo Spider personally now it is very difficult to work with them but when you come let's say Kusumu eh Ososi and Sufur they have a lot of respect mh me and your father when we go big brother m we get a lot of respect Mhm.

[01:30:04]Now we must build a national party like the one in South Africa. You get the impression that the president of Wafosa comes from a very small community. Oh, and another thing, the Mandela family was not from a large community like the Wazudu.

[01:30:22]They come from the Kosa community, which is half Wazu.

[01:30:27]So the party we are building will be the best way to implement what we want Kenya to be. And that is my position. And now, Mr. James, I think you are walking with our very young leaders, especially like the Sifuna opinion Paul came out yesterday and said that Sifuna has a certain percentage of support for the presidential candidacy. Do you believe in their leadership? Can young leaders take over the country as a presidential seat?

[01:31:01]You know I can't have those thousands and then set conditions. Hey, I realize that I don't have the power, my father has the power, my mother has the power, so we as the protectors of the citizens will decide what we will do?

[01:31:22]Okay. Ah you said that you but the important thing is that Ruto must go home ah you said that you are the ODM party leader de facto eh let's make it clear to the person who listens to you and has visited the ODM party since it was founded we have seen the waves that have hit the ODM party and when you speak in political forums in ODM meetings you say that the ODM party is the biggest here in Kenya in East Africa and even north of Limpopo you know you can mention it the future of the ODM party at the moment meaning if you look at the party leader of the ODM party who constitutionally maybe you know the legal issues even you don't recognize I don't want I don't want I don't want I start pretending the constitution is here you are here Ah the ODM party constitution you said that it had clearly stated that eh if or what does it tell us? If the party leader leaves, who should take his place? What should be done after how many days?

[01:32:36]This has been made very clear that the person who should take over, you know, that party leader is one of the deputy party leaders. It would have been a joke, it would have been Arati or the Mombasa governor, but they did a trick one day before Raila's body was brought back to Kenya, in the State House, President Rutoa along with Junette Wanga and these two governors, no party leaders, they are governors Nasir and Rati and Simba, they said right there that they would put Dr. Buru as a party leader without constitutional authority.

[01:33:34]We were even at the airport when Dr. Bur was explaining that he was now the party leader, and he was very surprised.

[01:33:44]How did it come about?

[01:33:45]Well, now that was a violation of the aud constitution and there is no way you can clean up that act. And you also know that in the Wajalu community, I should say that when an old man dies, you cannot enter his home. It must be until the day he is buried, about four days have passed.

[01:34:13]But this guy has not confirmed that it is true that Rahela is dead. I am sure that her body has not reached Kenya. And they have made changes in the party. Even when the Pope in Rome dies, 30 days must be given.

[01:34:36]and when he dies they hit his head with a small stick to see for sure that he is dead or is really dead eh and and after burying him it takes time eh where those cardinals are called there eh until the white smoke comes eh but this eh was like the ODM party is a party of understanding which you say the king is dead longly the king because there's always a succession according to you hon. James what do you see or what do you feel was the main reason to say that Uburu is the party leader that is there were those in the OD party they had businessmen and the Uji party they saw that if we were free eh we would have a good environment eh to do this business they were doing with the party and they continue to do that business and eh you see eh the Kenyan government has ODM money of about 12 billion shillings eh and if they had tracked that money the W party would have been very powerful but now they are relying on the contribution from President Rut doing this money from President Ruto they want masochists from President Ruto ah the Mlembe community also has some leaders who feel that they should be at the annual table 2027 name the secretary general of the ODin party, we don't mention the Saboti MP, we don't mention the Tanzoya County Governor, George Natembela, your relationship is probably very good with leaders from the west, even when they had the Ososi meeting, Natembela, Sifona and Undo had a meeting yesterday and we were told we will have this meeting and this meeting is important because we don't want Kasongono to enter the western region. We said that we will also have a meeting in Nyanza and have a meeting that involves the people of the west, the Luhi, the Luo and the Wakisi. It's not that we want to have tribal politics but to see that the rights of those counties that we are establishing, we call it the economic region, we have protected their rights and also if there is something that one of us deserves to have in the Republic of Kenya, let's fight together.

[01:37:40]We protect the citizen. We have a governor who is walking around the city. He has not made himself clear if we want to know if he is Linda Mwananchi or maybe he is working with the former deputy president, Rigadhi Gashagwa. There are many leaders who I can say are from the opposition. Name them. Stephen Kalonzo Musioka names Dr. Alfred Matiangi. We have seen the hand of the fourth president of the Republic of Kenya, Uhuru Kenyatta, trying to talk to some leaders who are in the opposition and his deputy, the chairman, D Fred Matiang, even yesterday he said that he is calling on Kenyans not to accept the passage of the 2026 budget bill. The number of leaders who are now in the opposition is large, you feel that it is a sad and worrying thing that there will come a time when Sifuna will say I stand, G will say I stand, you know I want Kenyans not to worry, in 202 we had so many parties and so many advocates, there was Raila himself.

[01:38:56]There was a remnant, there were Saitoti, they all declared that they wanted to be presidents, who was this lady from Charity Ngidu, there were the Malwa, they had all clearly declared that they would cede the presidency and it came to a time when there were meetings, the last meetings were at Serena Hotel, Raila did extra work to talk to each group, then when we went to Uhuru Park, he, Raila, announced that enough was enough and that everyone left the party. At the Uhuru compound, he said that they had decided that the opposition candidate was Uhuru Kenyatta, Kalonzo, Saitoti, Raila himself, and Ngilu, who he strongly disagreed with and was there, was a minister in Nyachari.

[01:40:01]Okay.

[01:40:02]So we have time, we must build these parties so that we can be on a promise where we can say that even if we have a coalition government, everyone will have a fair amount of power.

[01:40:21]370705457368870 Facebook fanpage many have asked questions about Faraji Kimnyala says revolution is its own children priest Kenyatta says Manaanya listens to Isaiah Musonye get and clear Peter Makuto eh Moses Zanyole also listens we are with David Nyambati he says Orengo you are a legend God bless you always Mrembe FM hello hello welcome Shundu Simon very welcome Shundu eh I am fine I am fine I am fine with Lueno we are fine your question your question below we are very grateful how he is pushing these Lind youth and how he is also pushing in the direction of ensuring that this Mwanengi team will be strong there will be a disaster that people are asking each other that these ignorant citizens have a plan to unite with Mnyoro and you hear Mnyoro's implementation of beating his chest and pushing the agenda and the politics of the clan at home I don't know if you will unite with him and people are saying if you unite with him what will happen and he is a person who is biased towards one side and he is a person who supports the politics of tribalism honorable Jim thank you mendo fm hello and honorable okay Nunda, please ask the honorable James Orengo, the father of the constitution, his question is whether Linda Mwananchi will be established as a party or the second question will they join with those other parties on the condition that they will oppose Ruto or the last question is whether the honorable Orengo, who is a prominent politician for many years, has announced that he is the one who will change and will stand for the presidency to oppose Ruto or okay, sorry, two questions, almost four. First, if you join former Deputy President Rigadhi Gashagwa, who said that he has repeatedly shown areas of leaning towards the mountain, what will happen if you work with him or join with other people and he stays out.

[01:43:26]Ah, if you listen to the remarks of the Secretary General of Audien, Mr. Edfuna, he was saying that the reason why we cannot form a coalition is because the values ​​of the UDA party are different from our OD party. Now we are closely monitoring the values ​​of other parties to see if they are parties with whom we can work together.

[01:43:56]But I want to say that this is a business of working with other parties, we have not decided. We still see that we as Linda Mwananchi have the ability to go to citizens as Linda Mwananchi and appoint people to different positions from the position of president to the position of Member of County Assembly. But I can't say that in the future it's impossible that we can work with other parties. As I have shown, in 2020 we did not know that Kibake could work with Raila or we did not know that Charilo and Wamalo could work with Raila or with whom? And Kibaki.

[01:44:55]Therefore, I ask you to wait until we build our ODM Linda Mwananchi party and when the time comes when we will start dealing with the issues of having those who will stand in different colleges and the most important is the position of president, we will be able to clearly explain to the citizens who we can work with.

[01:45:21]There is a conspiracy to register the Linda Mwananchi movement as a party.

[01:45:26]We are currently saying that Raila's spirit and soul are with Linda Mwananchi and we cannot allow Raila's party to be taken over by the whims of politicians.

[01:45:41]So we still pretend that we have liberated our party.

[01:45:49]Okay.

[01:45:50]Oh, there are some young people from western Kenya who feel that they have not had opportunities in this government of President William Ruto. They are listening to you.

[01:45:59]Many are now disappointed. The other day we had a voter registration exercise. Many said that why do I register and when I vote, it is not the result of my vote. Maybe if you could talk to young people like these who are currently listening to you through the phone? I sincerely urge you to register as voters. There is this movement, there is a card, they should be involved in that movement, because all these problems cannot be solved by any other entity except a party that has leaders who have been elected and entered the government. If I look at the situation in the western region, it has wealth and very good land, but there is a problem: people have no jobs.

[01:46:56]If you see companies like Paper, the government sold them in a way that is not right.

[01:47:07]Mumias should work very well and I pray that in order for us to get real change, we must vote and Western Kenya has been in the forefront since the time of independence.

[01:47:28]I have counted the Mliro brothers, the Wamadwa brothers and here in Tabiga there were many deep Utiende leaders who brought change to our country, the Shikupu brothers. So don't stay home, take your vote home.

[01:47:49]Your vote is important.

[01:47:51]And it has been said, perhaps just to clarify a little, that many of these young people should go vote because they see that our vote did not affect us. Will you, like Linda Mwananchi, ensure that our vote is counted this time round? Will the youth vote and have it count this time round?

[01:48:06]We first want to look at IBC.

[01:48:09]IBC, you know there is a very important law in the elections act which states that the technology equipment that IBC uses during elections must be inspected and the conditions of those equipment must be checked by the parties and even during the elections and after the elections, you know when we were doing the Raila 2017 rehearsal we wanted to know the condition of that server, that server, now they said that the server is in France and the people of France are still sleeping right now, also the campaign that provides technology and equipment is a campaign from Venezuela and Venezuela has no respect for having a democratically elected government. Now we must listen carefully to the fact that the IBC body is beginning to preside over elections.

[01:49:25]Okay. Oh, we're saying goodbye, in four minutes we'll be letting you leave. But just the last question, do you feel that in 2027 the Mlembe community could perhaps have a leader who will say that he is mature enough to seek the presidency?

[01:49:41]There are many and Msifuna is one of those who can say without fear that he has the power.

[01:49:51]Ed.

[01:49:52]Oh, my grandfather is also capable of being a good person.

[01:50:01]The good news is that in the Linda Mwananchi party, we have people who are capable, even in the political arena, but we must have discipline, as Mandela used to say, when you have a party where people are disciplined and it is a party that protects the rights of the people, you can sit down and then marry a leader and say this is the way and that is the leader.

[01:50:32]Thank you. Thank you very much, Governor Orengo, for taking the time to come and speak to the Mlembe community. I know there are many things we could sell you, but due to the time and activities you have, we ask that we limit ourselves. Your final word to a Kenyan and a resident of western Kenya. My last point is that the survey conducted yesterday showed that Linda Mwananchi is at the top of the popularity charts.