Let's talk about WASPs and Jews

Added: 2026-05-31

[00:00:05]That does bring us to the the present moment in which it's not even so much that a lot of newcomers, if you will, this new cadre of immigrants and perhaps elites that represent them, that they are opposed to the founding ethnos as much as they may not even know that there is one. Yeah.

[00:00:21]>> Because this country has has sort of suffered from amnesia for so long.

[00:00:25]>> Yeah.

[00:00:26]>> U Patrick Buchanan >> Yeah. said in Day of Reckoning, a book I'm sure you're familiar with, "Why did America not secure her borders, enforce the laws, repel the invasion, expel the intruders? Because our leaders are terrified of charges of racism and lack moral courage. And because the United States has ceased to be a democratic republic, the will of the majority is no longer reflected in public policy. State and local referenda to deal with the illegal alien crisis are routinely invalidated by federal judges as immigration laws go uninforced by federal officials. An obvious question.

[00:01:07]Why would any leader of a country with an ethnos feel apologetic about that?

[00:01:16]>> You know, look, I I I think in as with biological organisms, political systems tend to be born with the seeds of their own destruction in them. And I think one reason a country like France could change its skin politically over the years is that they still have a stronger sense of ethnic consciousness than we do. uh for various reasons which we can discuss we have lost that over the years. So when we look at the change constitutionally from a confederal republic which I would say died in 1865 to the about a hundred years of a federal democracy which then was corrupted by the national security state that really became launched in the 1950s has gotten worse and worse over the decades reflecting various you know non non-national corporate or ethnic interests that have nothing to do with the United States and then in its own way then corrupting the American consciousness about who we are. I mean, how many people today still think we live in a constitutional republic? Well, we just don't. We live in a national security state, a corporate state, a bureaucratic state that is globalist in its ideology that really doesn't give a damn what the American people think about anything. I mean, what did Buchanan run on when he ran for president? For that matter, what did Donald Trump run on when he ran for president? Three pillars. doing something about the immigration situation, uh doing something about our trade situation and getting us out of this damn globalist uh quest for global domination. Um those resonate with the American people, not with the Republican party leadership, not with the Democratic Party leadership. They have a lock on the political system that is as as secure as the lock that Communist Party of the Soviet Union had on their political system. And that's what they're desperate to defend at all costs. Trump got elected. We can explain, we can speculate about why he was allowed to be elected or what was really behind that, but I think it's pretty clear he did not deliver on those promises, which are the promises that what's left of the American ethnos want to see kept. So I I think we're in basically uncharted waters now where we have a growing awareness of people. We don't live in the constitutional system that they thought they lived in, the the civic state they thought they lived in.

[00:03:31]And maybe there's the the chance that some of them start to catch on to the ethnic factor. What was the ethnos that gave birth to that state and what is the fate of that ethnos going into the future? Does it have a future is the question we need to ask ourselves.

[00:03:47]>> You you knew Pat Buchanan.

[00:03:49]>> Yeah. Uh sure.

[00:03:50]>> Is it fair to say you knew him pretty well?

[00:03:52]>> No, not really well. I I knew him somewhat. My parents and my brother both worked on his two presidential campaigns. I was still working in the Republican leadership in the Senate then. So I had to keep a certain a certain formal distance. Then I met him on several occasions. He's written you know warm regards to my family and you know like in signing his books and things like that. So you know again you know he's as you know removed from private life recently because of some health issues. Um I think he would still recognize who I am but you know I don't I I can't really say.

[00:04:19]>> Why do you think it was Mr. Buchanan and some choice others that we can certainly mention >> who recognized early on >> that there was a moral failing >> particularly among America's leaders.

[00:04:33]What what did he mean by that? What was Patrick Buchanan talking about? There's some kind of change that happened in governance. You alluded to it a little bit with the national security state, >> but it strikes me that it goes much deeper than that. And there was a a real moral problem that Patrick Buchanan was talking about well ahead of others. Why why was he this voice in the wilderness?

[00:04:56]And some others like him perhaps somebody like Ron Paul who who obviously talked about the failure of uh of constitutionalism. Yeah. That sort of thing. Or rather the the elites failed to >> uphold it. What were these men talking about? What is this moral failing in our leadership?

[00:05:15]And who are those leaders?

[00:05:16]>> Are you saying why did he personally see that that other people did not see?

[00:05:19]>> What is it that Pat Patrick Buchanan himself, but also what was he really talking about?

[00:05:24]>> Well, I I think I think there's a certain paradox here when it comes to the ethnic question is that many of those who are most uh grounded in that original American ethnos ethos ethnos sorry are among those who are least conscious conscious of it. Other words, because like for example, why is it that people in the northern tier of America, which is the whitest part of America, are the most liberal and most anti-racist in their attitudes?

[00:05:51]>> You're talking about the Wasp, the the white Anglo-Saxon Protestants.

[00:05:54]>> Yes. Now, and I think in in some ways it's easier for somebody like me who's one step removed from that and has maybe a little more awareness of the ethnic landscape to be conscious of what's going on more than those people who are born in in, you know, swim in the fish in the sea and don't see it at all. I think the fact that Buchanan comes from a more approximate Irish German ethnic origin and and and his Roman Catholicism make it easier for him to stay stand one step removed and see it in the way that somebody who's right in that ethic uh original eth ethos doesn't see it because not even in his consciousness he's already just been succumbed to a lot of propaganda. So by implication, what you're suggesting is that the locust of that moral failure >> is in that wasp absolutely elite.

[00:06:47]Absolutely. It is in it is in that original ethnos.

[00:06:51]>> Yes.

[00:06:51]>> But an elite subset of it. Yes.

[00:06:54]>> And by elite, what what do we mean exactly? What do you mean exactly?

[00:06:57]>> Well, the elite subset, of course, everybody used to talk about the the Wasp aristocracy that used to run this country and basically ran it up till at least World War II, I would say, is that's when they really started to lose their grip. And that's where you get more of, you know, obviously a very strong Jewish element in the ruling establishment in the United States, of course, pursuing their own ethnic agenda. And that w but see that that Wasp um aristocracy wasn't even entirely lost until the early 21st century. I mean, you still have somebody like, you know, James Baker could say, you know, f the Jews, they didn't vote for us.

[00:07:31]You're not going to find that anymore among anybody in that original Wasp aristocracy.

[00:07:36]>> James Baker was what? Secretary Secretary of State under under Bush the Elder under Bush the Elder. Yeah. Um once once you get to Bush the Younger, it's all gone. I mean, there's the only awareness of any kind of Wasp identity, if you wouldn't even call it that, would be Christian Zionists, you know, who are basically of the same Wasp ethnicity Muslim. They are white anglophone Protestants of a very weird kind of Protestantism, but they they have no ethnic awareness at all to speak of.

[00:08:07]>> I want to I want to key in on on this concept of a moral failing slash apology, >> you know, this apologetic sentiment from that particular subset because I'm not convinced that it's entirely >> organic.

[00:08:22]>> Okay. Um, and this speaks to that sort of transition, that handoff of elites that you hinted at earlier. Uh, here's an author that you may or may not know.

[00:08:32]Today, we give lip service the to the Wasp principles upon which this republic was built while verifying, excuse me, while vilifying as racist the notion that Wasp ethnicity has any relationship to American nationality. The result is progressive balkanization, the multiculturalism of the left and the pluralism of the neoconservatives which are pretty much the same thing. One Jim Jetrris Mark wrote that. Yeah. How about that? That was 1997, I think. Yeah.

[00:09:05]>> Why vilification?

[00:09:08]Who is vilifying that Wasp identity?

[00:09:11]Exactly. Because it's it's one thing to say there are things that are regrettable about my past. It's quite another to say that they're evil or that they're bad. What exactly is motivating that vilification?

[00:09:26]>> Is there a particular group, an elite uh that weaponized this term racism that everybody's so afraid of today?

[00:09:35]Um I think it would be hard to discuss this without identifying the fact that or organized Jewish interests have played a very important role in doing this. Um there are several things that h look um we we talked about the immigration act in 1965. Obviously, we had the civil rights movement in in the mid 1960s uh which basically then re largely redefined America from having a basically a white angophone Christian majority to a black with a with a black anglophone Christian minority and that was the historic American demographic.

[00:10:12]So you redefine American that way again toward a civic state and there's no ethnic consciousness in in in the state at all. Um I I think it has been a progressive thing over the years. Um how how strong the the uh specifically Jewish role in it is I think is subject to debate. But I think it's it's becoming clear to a lot of people that it's not insignificant. I was you know I think there were a lot of people who just sort of wrote it off. There's no such thing. You know what did uh Dave Chappelle say? If they're if they're black it's a gang. If they're Italian, it's a mob. If they're Jews, it's a coincidence. Don't pay any attention to it. when you have a very strong Jewish organizations that and voices that were that were so prominent in writing the 1965 uh uh immigration act that were so prominent in the civil rights movement in the 1960s you you start to say to yourself well this can't be all coincidental that you know once again somebody puts on his wall what's the the the shrinking share of the white percentage of the American population >> and it's it is clearly celebrating this you say all right what's driving this and I would say well to some extent it's somebody else's ethnic consciousness that you know again is it good for the Jews is it good for our community is it good for you know there's sort of an an irony here you know people have point out open borders for everybody but Israel I mean it's um the idea that that everybody else has to accept a completely non-national non uh eth ethnic concept of who he is but we among ourselves are the most ethnically and racially conscious people on the planet and nobody's supposed to notice that.

[00:11:56]>> Let's talk about the organized >> Yeah.

[00:11:59]>> component of that because to me that is >> the powerful modifier in this discussion. It's one thing to say that their interests.

[00:12:07]>> Sure.

[00:12:07]>> It's one thing to say that a group is >> tribal or ethnically motivated. I think everybody is in one way, shape, or form with the exception perhaps of this sort of feckless wasp belief that you spoke of. But by and large, it's natural to be conscious. But organized, >> that's something else. So, just a couple quotes and I'd like you to to react to them and explain from your vantage point and perhaps your time at the State Department >> working on Capitol Hill, lobbyists, these kinds of things. Jacob Jabitz, who certainly pushed for the hard seller act, among other things, senator from New York, >> opened the floodgates. Y >> that was I think in a New York Times article in the 1950s arguing that we should take in people >> as sort of an anti-communist policy >> uh that then becomes a demographic weapon. I I don't think there's any other way to describe it. Stanley Leon who was Martin Luther King Jr's speech writer >> and other very prominent uh communist Jews right >> that were strongly advocating supporting pushing promoting the civil rights movement that most people today regard as a permutation in American history right >> um and one that seems inorganic there's that word again >> how were these things organized how were they catalyzed by the Jewish power structure or organized jewelry as you called it.

[00:13:34]>> You know, I'm not sure I can give you a very detailed answer to that. I mean, we know there are powerful organizations out there. Apac obviously, but you know, SPLC, uh, the Anti-Defamation League and so on and so forth. And obviously, they're wellunded. They have a lot of money, a lot of people are afraid of them. Uh, case of congressional elections, as we all know, Apac is the 800 pound gorilla. You know, Tom Massie talked about having an Apac handler in every uh congressional office, >> the American Israeli public affairs committ, >> public affairs committee. A lot of people thinking that stands for political action committee, which it does not. And by the way, a lot of people uh you know pe one of the people the one of the things people point to with Jack Kennedy is not only his opposition to an Israel Israeli nuclear weapon, but apparently that he thought that Apac should register as a lobbyist under under the foreign agents registration act. I'm not sure that's entirely the case because as far as I know, they're not paid by the Israeli government. I have to the money is raised here. The money is sent to Israel. It doesn't come from Israel. So, I'm I'm not even sure on legal grounds whether that would necessarily apply.

[00:14:37]That's a whole other topic. But the fact is these organizations are there. I mean, SPLC, for example, is not overtly a Jewish organization, but it is a Jewish run organization. And we saw recently in the news where they were funding various kind of hate groups because anti-semitism is the you know the the the lifeblood that keeps these organizations going. How could they exist without anti-semitism even where it doesn't race on debt?

[00:15:04]It is the load for sure.