I Let A Protestant Attack The Papacy. Big Mistake. ⚔️

追加: 2026-05-27

[00:00:00]A Protestant pastor just dropped a video, word for word, here is why we rejected the Catholic papacy as Christians. And look, I watched the whole thing and I took notes because if somebody's going to challenge my faith, hey, I owe it to myself and to you to challenge it and see if it's true. So today, I'm going claim for claim, seven arguments and I'll show you from scripture, from history, from the church fathers, where this falls apart. Let's go. Quick little story on why I like to defend the faith even though I don't like apologetics. I have a spiritual mentor, his name is I'm not going to disclose it, but he's my guy and he's a Presbyterian pastor.

[00:00:38]Um so coming into the Catholic faith, I was a revert cuz I was raised Catholic.

[00:00:42]Um I didn't know too much so whenever he challenged me, he would destroy me every single time. Right? So it challenged me to be like, okay, maybe I should look up and research the things that the Catholic Church believes. And every time I did my research, everything came to a point where I was like, I understand everything. A lot of people who are Protestant lead people who are Catholic away from the church and that's not what Christ wants. So, let's engage this video and let's see if this guy is talking any truth. Let's go.

[00:01:07]Here we go.

[00:01:08]Peter was also the first bishop of Rome.

[00:01:10]If Peter was the rock and he was also the first bishop of Rome, >> [snorts] >> then all subsequent bishops of Rome are also the rock of Matthew 16:18. They're the vicars of Peter, so to speak.

[00:01:21]Uh interestingly, the earliest church fathers did not, for the most part, interpret the rock of Matthew 16:18 as referring to Peter.

[00:01:29]>> All right. Who's going to tell this guy?

[00:01:31]Huh? Who's going to tell this guy? Huh?

[00:01:33]Y'all Y'all see them leaving right there?

[00:01:35]All right, watch this. Watch this. So here's what's interesting about this claim.

[00:01:39]It's actually a half-truth and you If you already know anything about Catholicism and just Christianity in general, those are one of the most dangerous kind of truths because it leads to heresy. Cuz yes, the early church fathers had a variety of interpretations on who the rock was.

[00:01:51]Some said Peter directly, some said Peter's confession of faith, and some said Christ. Tertullian, Cyprian, Basil the Great all maintained that the rock was Peter. These are all early church fathers that this guy was saying, um they didn't refer as um refer Peter as the rock. So, what is he talking about?

[00:02:10]Then, you got guys like Augustine affirming that the rock is Peter.

[00:02:12]>> [music] >> And then, you have some of the Eastern Fathers such as Cyril of Jerusalem and Chrysostom saying that the rock is Peter's profession of faith. But, here's what the video doesn't tell you. Each one of these interpretations is all consistent with Catholic teaching. The Catholic Church has never said that there's only one valid reading.

[00:02:30]Never ever said that. What she has said is that Peter, the man, received real authority at that moment. And not one church father denies that. [music] And here's another thing that they skip.

[00:02:41]Watch this.

[00:02:43]Ignatius of Antioch, writing shortly after Clement of Rome, reported that the Roman Church exercised a presidency in love among all the Christian churches. And Irenaeus, around 180 AD, emphasized the unique position of Rome, tracing the succession directly back to Peter.

[00:02:59]Come on. If the earliest church had no concept of Peter's primacy, why did Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, defer to Rome before he was even martyred? And then, you have to talk about the language of Matthew 16. In Aramaic, the language that Jesus spoke, there's no distinction between Petros and Petra.

[00:03:15]But, it's the same word, Cephas, means rock. Jesus said to Simon, "You are the rock, and on this rock, I will build this church." Same word, same man. All right, so the next segment that I timestamped was him talking about bad popes, so let's go. But, also gave the papacy a major self-promotion. Up to that point, the popes had considered themselves the vicar of Peter, but with Gregory the Seventh, they began to consider themselves the vicar of Christ.

[00:03:43]>> Amen. Uh that's a big jump.

[00:03:45]Um as we move into the later All right.

[00:03:48]All right, the bad popes argument. Okay.

[00:03:52]Let me be one of the first Catholic YouTubers, which I know there's many who's probably claimed this, but there's actually been a lot of terrible Popes if nobody's ever knew. Like yes, there's been bad Popes.

[00:04:01]Pope Stephen, he dug up somebody's corpse when he was when he was dead. Um there's some other guys who's had a lot of like immoral sexual relations with other people while being Pope. There's There's also been like a an era where there's been three Popes. So yes, there's been a lot of bad things that's happened while we've had some Popes, you know? And Popes are human, too. They're not perfect. And again, here's where his logic breaks down. Papal infallibility is not a claim that says Popes are morally good. And I feel like that's very, very um common to hear that from the Protestant side. It's when the Pope speaks ex cathedra, right? Um so when he speaks on things that define faith and morals on the whole entire church um through the guidance of the Holy Spirit cuz the Holy Spirit can't err, it preserves that definition from error. So it's not nothing crazy. And if you want a biblical parallel, right? King David, let's use him. King David murdered a man, right? He committed adultery. But God still used him because he was a man after his own heart. And he kept his covenant through David's line. And the throne was preserved not because David wasn't holy, which I'm sure he was, but it's because God is faithful, especially to his promises. And the papacy works the same way. Wicked men have been at that chair at times. No corrupt Pope has defined heresy as doctrine >> [music] >> in the 2,000 years of the church, not one has done so. So the next part is going to be on the bloody history of the papacy, so let's go. That's the end.

[00:05:24]Hey.

[00:05:25]All right, let's go.

[00:05:28]Starting with the bloody history of the papacy.

[00:05:32]As we read about the Roman Catholic Church through the ages, they seem to be involved in a lot of conflicts with a lot of death. Sure, how bloody is the is the office of the papacy? Yeah, well, once the papacy ceases to be about shepherding people and pastoring people and starts being about politics and actually serving and functioning as the ruler of Rome and the surrounding areas such that to be the Pope is to be the king and not just the king but actually sort of the spiritual emperor of the West.

[00:06:03]All right. So, this claim usually comes with a less you already know how it is.

[00:06:06]The Crusades, all the bloodshed that Popes have been involved with and especially in the Middle Ages and all that. Okay.

[00:06:13]Okay. But, I want to say something that might surprise you.

[00:06:17]The Catholic Church has already said this. John Paul II issued formal apologies for the sins committed in the Church's name. The Catechism itself acknowledges that there has been people that have committed scandals and have done wrong. Like, okay, we understand that. But, if a bloody history disqualifies an institution, what do we do with the history of every nation that called itself Christian? The question isn't whether or not people have done terrible things in the name of religion.

[00:06:40]People have. The question is, does the institution's divine origin stand or fall based on the sins of its members?

[00:06:48]If it does, you literally have to reject the apostles, too. Peter denied Christ, Thomas doubted him, and Jesus still built his Church through them anyway.

[00:06:57]who were kind of big on the doctrine of justification. How far away from biblical justification had it moved?

[00:07:05]Yeah, we see a beginning point of departure even as early as the late 4th, early 5th century because of the way that the Latin translation of what would have been early 5th century, the translation of the Vulgate So, pretty much the claim is that Catholics believe that salvation is through works. But again, that is not Catholic teaching.

[00:07:27]All right. It's clear doctrine. You You can check out the Catechism. Catholics are saved by grace through faith.

[00:07:34]And naturally, like I said in multiple videos before, works naturally sprout from that.

[00:07:39]>> [laughter] >> I keep saying it, man. I keep saying that. And in this video, he's um bringing up the the Greek and Latin translations of justification. Let's just get straight to the point. All right. So, I got James 2:24, right right here.

[00:07:52]A man is justified by works and not by faith alone.

[00:07:56]That's in the Bible. And mind [music] you, that's the only time in the Bible where faith alone is used. Only one time. And again, let's talk about his views on justification as well. I have the Council of Trent right here.

[00:08:11]After our initial justification, which is entirely God's gift, we continue to grow in righteousness by cooperating with God's grace. Good works have a role in this ongoing sanctification. Protestants tend to think that justification is a one-time event. Like you believe and you're in.

[00:08:26]Boom. Catholics understand justification as a process. And we cooperate with that grace through faith and a life transformed by faith. And Paul himself says, work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

[00:08:39]>> [music] >> For it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. So, it's not faith or works.

[00:08:45]It's faith-producing works, which by the way, is exactly what James [clears throat] says to begin with.

[00:08:50]Which was one of the things that Martin Luther asked in his 95 theses, which was all about the sale of indulgences.

[00:08:58]Uh he asked, "Wait, if there's an infinite number of merits, then why isn't the Pope giving an indulgence to everybody?"

[00:09:06]All right. So, we're going to stop there. So, let's be clear.

[00:09:09]The sale of indulgences was a scandal.

[00:09:12]Literally, in the Council of Trent, they agree with Luther that it was a wrong thing that that was done. It formally banned the sale of indulgences while keeping the doctrine itself. Indulgence is the remission of temporal punishment for sins already forgiven. So, for example, if I was to if I stole money, but and then they um the guy said, "Oh, I'm sorry." But I still haven't gave him the money back, there's still temporary punishment temporary punishment that is due.

[00:09:36]Confession restores that relationship, but the temporary um the temporal consequences, they still remain.

[00:09:42]>> who are not good enough, I'm paraphrasing, but not good enough to go to heaven straight away, and therefore need a purifying process after death in order, and this is almost an exact quote, to achieve the holiness necessary to enter heaven. You don't even got to.

[00:09:57]Purgatory is biblical.

[00:10:00]Purgatory is biblical. I got the scripture right here.

[00:10:03]All right, Matthew 12:32. Let's go.

[00:10:06]Jesus says a certain sin will not be forgiven either in this age or in the age to come. So, this implies that there are certain sins that can be forgiven in the afterlife.

[00:10:15]And then 1 Corinthians 3:15, which is a very common one that Protestants still get wrong.

[00:10:20]Um Paul describes a man and says this.

[00:10:24]>> [music] >> That he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

[00:10:28]Paul describes a man whose work is burned up, yet he himself will be saved, but only through fire. And that suffering is temporary, especially assuming that the soul will be saved eventually.

[00:10:39]>> when do you say now it's gotten so corrupt that we can officially label it as an apostate movement in terms of the official dogma >> Apostate movement, the Catholic Church.

[00:10:50]The Holy Spirit can err?

[00:10:54]All right, so this is a common one that I see because I see YouTubers and people who debate online saying, "Oh, we have the true gospel. The Catholic Church doesn't have the true gospel. It's a false gospel." Um if you guys were with me with the Mike Gendron video back in December 2025, that's exactly what he said. But, how can that be if all these groups disagree with each other on major doctrines? How can they have the one true gospel?

[00:11:18]Think about that. If the true church is the one separated from Rome, which one is it? You see today there's so many different denominations.

[00:11:27]And a lot of Protestants say, "Oh, there's seven true denominations." Which one is it still? And this is what I'm trying to say here though. The early church didn't look at the Gnostic groups to see which one had the true gospel.

[00:11:38]They looked to Rome. They all pointed to Rome. To the bishops who could trace their authority all the way back to the first 12 apostles. The idea that the true church was underground for 1500 years and it reemerged as the Protestant Reformation, that's not even history.

[00:11:52]That's just a narrative. If you have a question or say you have something that you don't understand about the Catholic Church, just look it up. It's actually so easy. That's exactly what I did. You did like literally no excuses. But if any person is watching this and you see any of these arguments, you at least have a response now. Not to win an argument, but to give reason for the hope that you have. Just as Peter says.

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