“I’m Completely Sick And TIRED” | Terrorism Threat Level Raised To Severe After Golders Green Attack

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[00:00:00]Let's get a word from Oscar Redrop, former number 10 adviser. Oscar, good afternoon to you. I mean, you've worked in government. You were there at number 10. [snorts] You've seen how these things work. You've been in meetings when they're discussed. Do we get anything from just the term the terror threat is now severe. Um I mean, it's never going to be it's okay, is it?

[00:00:19]That's that I don't think that even gets mentioned in the league table.

[00:00:24]>> No. Um but it does. It's uh it's a reflection of the current state of play and that is important to a degree um for for the public as well as intelligence services and you know uh uh responders you like police we saw even the other day you know it is an important indication as to where we're at watching the clips back that you just uh uh showed there and you talk about Star being relegated somewhat. It's an interesting one because even the language and again of course meaning well you know attack on the Jewish community is attack of all of us. Yes, of course it is. But this is quite specific, right? You know, this is the attack of Jews in the United Kingdom.

[00:01:10]And I'm sorry. I am so sorry. But I think like many people out there, I am completely sick and tired of, you know, we can't let such and such divide us stronger together, blah blah blah. Since October the 7th, there have been anti-semitic, not all, I'm not, you know, I know it's not as simple as that, but there has been anti-semitic hate marched up and down the cities of the United Kingdom.

[00:01:39]missing posters of um hostages uh Jewish hostages to torn down on the streets of London. Schools in the direct aftermath of uh October the 7th having to shut.

[00:01:55]Jewish schools having to shut due to safety concerns.

[00:01:59]Karma was booed and heckled when he turned up yesterday. And I completely understand why because we have allowed that. We have allowed these marches to take place and it is grown and that it has been fueled and I you know I I have Jewish family. I have Jewish friends. I I'm not a practicing Jew. Um but uh so I I won't uh aim to have the I wouldn't pretend to have the same level of um personal uh kind of fear if you like but I know those that do and they they are right to be fearful and and and they are right to be angry at how they've been treated and protected in this country.

[00:02:46]Uh it's interesting, isn't it, that again it's not a a race of which prime minister, you know, can can give the best speech after a terror attack.

[00:02:56]Having said that, it it it simultaneously is relevant to this and I I think when you look at StarMA and this particular area of anti-semitic attacks and we've seen lots of it, it's never really gone away and it it's accelerated as you say since October the 7th and those marches were extraordinary. It does feel to many people to Jews and to non-Jews alike a little bit rich when the prime minister talks about this given that under his watch this uh explosion of marches that have taken place even after the synagogue attack in Manchester the very same that evening within the same postcode to I have no idea this almost something out of a a dark sitcom.

[00:03:43]>> Yeah, absolutely. and and I think you know a community that that is under attack um will will see a leader you know saying these nice words and go okay cool >> and what and what you know when you allowed those marches and it's almost too late now this is the this is the re this is this would be my main point it's almost too late now you know if you come down really hard on on marches such as this because the damage has been done because it it makes when you allow those marches >> that spread that hatred uh and again I'm not I get that there were people and it is important to make things people do go on those pro Palestinian marches who are not spreading hatred but but they but but it's still very much wrapped up in there when you allow that to happen the the genie is out the bottle and and what it the way it colors the society our society it just because it was you know it was weekly it was every single week you across major cities in the UK, it becomes the norm. and that when something becomes acceptable and and normal in inverted commas.

[00:04:52]>> Yeah. Then in that pyramid of violence and uh uh ultimately at the top of that list is the things that we see uh in Manchester and the things we saw this week and and and and so the government have allowed an environment to be created and they have not done enough and I all I would say is not to contradict myself what you know I say it's too late uh those marches should be banned at this point >> 100%. % and I I found them um I I found them difficult for a number of reasons Oscar. I mean clearly they were bearing in mind what some of the imagery being displayed showed some of the slogans some of the chants some of the kind of people that were on them. There was that. But I also found it not I mean clunky doesn't even touch the sides. Um grossly um extraordinary and uncomfortable that we had Brits marching for a a kind of cause and an area of of this world and an allegiance, whatever you want to call it, that has no alignment with our values whatsoever.

[00:06:01]I'm not suggesting they were all Hamas supporters, >> but it felt weird to see Brits aligning themselves if you were divi to divide it between what some people call Palestine and Israel. If you divided it up in those kind of slightly crash terms, but I think some people would run with those terms. To see people going that way, I just thought really really what is that all about? We have a complete relationship with Israel, a first world country and an ally. Jewish people in this country, Israelis or not, we have synergy and commonality and all the culturally everything is there. Uh and yet here we have thousands of people, our fellow Brits who are marching with uh those that many of whom aspire to support a medieval death cult. I [laughter] it is the flaming contradiction in all of this in that you know particularly in that part of the world those very liberal you know and and and quite right you know you know love who you want to love be who you want to be kind of uh uh value system you know in that part of the world that one of the best places and safest places you could be is Israel.

[00:07:13]>> Yeah. [laughter] So I I I just I've always found that an odd an odd contradiction. But but the but the other thing here as well is that that is I think really with anti-semitism.

[00:07:26]>> It is just like and I'm I'm I feel genuinely very passionate about this. So so apologies if I'm not being particularly articulate, but it's just this weird thing where like it's just kind of different like it's kind of okay actually, >> you know? Oh, it's not actually it's not actually racism. You know, these people aren't actually under threat. And and and that is just mind-boggling to me because we have seen throughout history that when you turn a blind eye to, you know, anti-Jewish hate, which is what we've seen up and down the streets of the United Kingdom for, you know, 18 months, nearly two years now. things like we have seen this week and in Manchester will continue to happen. And you know I if we if if we do view ourselves a lot of the people on the left you know would want us to be and I'm with them here. This isn't I'm not going out to attack here you know a liberal you know uh uh kind of loveydovey nation.

[00:08:30]Then why the hell are we turning a blind eye to things like this?

[00:08:36]>> Indeed. And it's interesting just before we pause, Oscar, a reminder of what Shabbana Mammud had said about the home secretary had said. I think this was from early March, what she'd said about those marches. Have a listen.

[00:08:48]>> There is no prohibition on protesting against the plight of Palestinians and there never will be.

[00:08:55]Now, one has to assume that she's referring to those marches again. Which bit are they not getting over there at number 10?

[00:09:03]>> I know, but I I understand it's a complex problem because there are like really peaceful, you know, you can disagree or or or agree with the geopolitics of it, but there are really peaceful people who are who go to these marches who mourn the death of Palestinians. Okay.

[00:09:19]>> Yeah.

[00:09:19]>> And and those people, it's very hard to to to punish those people. and uh restrain those people when they are marching. But at the same time, you want to absolutely stamp out and restrain those that are going there spreading anti-semitic Jewish hatred.

[00:09:38]Uh and and so I understand it's a complex problem. My argument at this point and I think we've reached this point a while ago now is that in the cost benefit of it when we seeing Jews you know c murdered and attacked uh in on the streets of the United Kingdom the the the benefit of these marches just it just isn't there anymore.

[00:09:59]>> Listen with us Oscar there's a lot to tuck into on this. Thank you Oscar Redrop still with us. More stories to come as well. We'll be looking at the anyone but an campaign which is quite funny really. Um, also David, uh, David Ed Milliban, Ed wishes. Uh, Ed Milliban's banning traditional tumbler dryers. You take my tumble dryer away from me. I'm telling you, you're not just in the bin. You're in the swamp.

[00:10:23]Outrageous. Details to come. And that question, is the UK under threat? How do you see that? What do you think of this um accelerated or this this raising of the terror threat? 0344991000.

[00:10:35]This is talk.

[00:10:41]Uh, Mag says, "Uh, Ian, do you play golf?" Not being nosy, just read in paper, Daily Mail, page 14, Starman might play golf near Checkers. Watch out. The bogeyman's about, says Maggie.

[00:10:54]Um, I don't play golf. I've never picked up a golf racket in my life, and neither would I do. I refer you to Oscar Wild and the many other uh great writers, poets, and orators who've talked about the perils of the game of golf. Oh, look, there's a big stick. How hard can you hit that ball and get it in that hole?

[00:11:17]Oscar Redrop is still with us. You a golfer, Oscar?

[00:11:20]>> Absolutely not. Not a sport. It's not a sport.

[00:11:24]>> It's not a sport. No, it's just a sport.

[00:11:26]>> It's like a kids game at best, isn't it?

[00:11:28]>> Rubbish. Yeah. Football. I like um I like kind of work slightly more I'd say workingclass sports traditionally. So football, boxing.

[00:11:38]>> Uh yeah, that's their proper sports.

[00:11:40]>> They are. And the other thing about golf, it should be you know when somebody gets a hole in one uh you know like a Tiger Woods. Well, not Tiger these days cuz you know he's usually half cut. Uh but you know when Tiger Woods gets like a hole in one um and he's like literally in another state and he whacks this ball and it goes over Texas, ends up on the green in Wyoming or something. Um and in it goes. Now he didn't aim it there. All right.

[00:12:06]>> He can't possibly know that he can go in the ballpark. No pardon. He can go right. I know it's that direction. You cannot aim. It's not physically possible for a human being to go I'm going to get this ball in that hole from this distance. What I do understand about golf though is if you're in a slightly miserable relationship, >> Yeah.

[00:12:24]>> or or marriage or whatever, it it's probably quite a good way to find eight hours that you have to >> that's that's the way it gets you eight hours of peace potentially.

[00:12:36]>> Yeah. Yeah. Although it does give you a lethal weapon in a golf club. So maybe maybe not such a good idea. I don't know.

[00:12:43]>> Let's uh let's move to this one. Uh great story this. Um is she really that bad? I think is the headline here. Still under investigation of course by the HMRC. Tips for Angela Raina to become the next prime minister might be a bit off as a new campaign called anyone but an is said to be underway in the parliamentary labor party. But the Labor Party but as she as she's concerned uh we haven't got anything to worry about.

[00:13:09]Have a listen.

[00:13:09]>> I do I have no desire to go for the leadership of the Labor Party. My desire is to deliver for the people of this country who have given me opportunities beyond what I could have dreamed of.

[00:13:23]Um, that's Angela. [laughter] It's interesting because I thought, Oscar, that she was the kind of bookie's favorite with the left. I thought she was exactly what they wanted >> apparently. Well, I I think there's going to be a bit of a like they're all they're almost uh quite like horse racing by the way to use uh do you know I like going to the races sometimes and when you see you see them kind of uh the procession of the horses before you put your bets on them kind of walking around. I think there's a bit of that going on right now. I think you know Wes very much threw his uh stuck his hand up I thought very seriously. uh I think it was two days ago you know doing a big press briefing on people around him doing a briefing to the press about how he's got the numbers and you know what would you rather you know and the rumors around his closeness of Mandlesson are actually there's nothing there and what would you rather some some silly rumors uh and competency matched with someone who's having tax difficulties so and you know I I think there'll be people who are slightly more in the background but shouldn't be underestimated like an Ed Miller band potentially Um, so this is I wouldn't pay too much mind to it. I get the stop uh rea movement to the center and the right of the party at the moment, but but I still I still, you know, again to use a horse analogy here, a racing analogy, she's still got a she's definitely still got a race to run here and I >> I the thing with Raina and I don't like her politics, okay? and and even I know the journalist very well who who got the kind of exclusive on her her boozy night and uh you know some people will find that endearing you know we have been devoid of personality >> that particular element doesn't do her any harm at all I don't think >> we've been devoid of kind of gumption and personality and again actually even if you dislike her politics you know a defined uh kind of uh belief system and and I kind of you you I feel like I could sit here and I could tell you what Angeline Raina wants and believes in the world. I might despise it, but I could tell you what it is. And I think after the last few years with Star, where it's just a vacuum, a void, I I there could be there could be appetite out there for that, particularly amongst those leftwing MPs, I think. So, >> who who have just been, as they would see it, you know, dragged through the mud with Star.

[00:15:51]>> Yeah. Um we will I mean after next Thursday uh the next week the week or so that follows that certainly not going to be dar I want to finish though if we can Oscar on this story. This is Ed Milliban the energy secretary introducing legislation to phase out traditional condenser tumble dryers. The net zero initiative promotes costlier slower heat pump alternatives to cut carbon emissions so we can say goodbye to this.

[00:16:16]What a difference on wash day when you have a Hot Point automatic washer and dryer. Just drop dirty clothes in here and all the hard work is done for you.

[00:16:27]>> The first time that thing was unveiled, I mean that's obviously back in the Do we know where the year that was? I'm guessing the sort of 50s or something.

[00:16:34]1954 that's from. Um, so >> you remember it well then?

[00:16:39]>> Yeah, I was [laughter] there when they filmed it. Yes, I was behind the dish the dryer. Um, I mean that would have looked like magic to people, wouldn't it? It's like here's a device. You put your clothes in, you sort of wait for Paul Daniels to pop out and go, "Hey."

[00:16:53]Um, and now then you lift the lid up half an hour later and it's all dry.

[00:16:57]You'd go, "What? What sort of sorcery is this?"

[00:17:00]>> And now Ed wants to get rid of it.

[00:17:02]>> That's still how I feel about them. And to make a slightly semi-serious point, it is magic to a lot of people. It's a laborsaving device. People are breaking their you know exploitive backs at the moment to no thanks or uh you know kind of tax breaks or you know growth that is engendered by government. Leave us the hell alone but stop telling us how to make our lives better for you and your value system and your virtue signaling.

[00:17:31]If I can use a device that makes my life easier so ultimately I can spend more time working to give you the government more money then leave me the hell alone.

[00:17:40]Sorry.

[00:17:41]>> No, you're absolutely bang on and what a point to end on. Listen, Oscar, have a lovely bank holiday weekend. Always good to see you.