🚨NATO JUST GOT BAD NEWS! More U.S. Troops Coming Home—Is America DONE With NATO? | Trish Regan Show

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[00:00:01]Boy, oh boy, does Marco Rubio know how to deliver a message or what over there in Sweden telling NATO, "Guys, you got to get your act together. You got one final chance. I'm here to make it very, very, very clear. We mean business. This is fantastic. Everyone, uh, Tulsi Gabber, by the way, has just resigned from the White House. Pretty interesting. over at Department of National Intelligence. She's out, which has a lot of people suggesting that, you know, it's the Marcos of the world, it's the Hawks of the world that are consolidating power there at the White House as they make it known, very, very known to NATO that you got to get with the program. Welcome to the program, everyone. I am Trishan. We are live here on the show. Make sure that you are subscribed. Double check, triple check.

[00:00:48]Make sure you're still subscribed and make sure you hit the bell so you get all the notifications and you know when we're live and when we've got the good stuff. Marco Rubio giving NATO a final warning. Guys, you know what? You better get with the program because we're not going to put up with this anymore. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's over in Sweden. He made it clear on the tarmac last night before he left what he was effectively going to say. Yeah, Spain, it's not okay when you decide we can't use our own bases. Yeah, Italy, not okay. And now he's delivering that message loud and clear like you guys actually have to cooperate or we're out of here. Aasta la vista baby. Over to Marco.

[00:01:29]Years. There's never been a time in which there hasn't been a debate in American politics about what our presence and our contribution to NATO should be. And that is always driven by what is the value of NATO to the United States. I understand NATO's valuable to Europe and it should be. It also has to be valuable to the United States. So we always have to make that argument. in every administration in every era and and that's what we're in the process of doing now is explaining you know this is the value of NATO to the United States related to that is what our force posture is within that alliance what our contributions are so obviously one of the things that I've always used and I've long been an advocate for NATO and my time in the Senate and one of the arguments I always made was that these bases in the region provided us logistical options that we wouldn't otherwise have and when some of those bases are denied to during a a conflict that we're involved in. Uh then you question whether that value is still there. So that's going to have to be discussed. There's no doubt about it. I think there's also going to have to be some focus on how a year after the meeting at the Hague, how much progress has been made in terms of the increased contributions. There are some countries that have doubled their defense spending over the last few years that there are others that are still lagging. In the end, the goal is to have a NATO that is strong and the stronger our NATO allies are, the stronger NATO is going to be.

[00:02:41]In other words, if NATO is strong, we're stronger because of it. We want our allies to be strong. But you see what's on the agenda there? One, you know, it's going to work for us. And two, we committed here to 5% guys, right, at the H last year, July 2025. So, we want to make sure that you're actually contributing the 5%. And if you're not Spain, then maybe you shouldn't be part of NATO.

[00:03:15]Spain at this meeting has come out and said it's not going to contribute their 5%. They've just flat out said it, guys.

[00:03:24]So, do we really want Spain in the club?

[00:03:28]Given that Spain one has called the war illegal, two won't let us use our bases and three is like f you when we say 5%.

[00:03:36]They're not even given 2% for goodness sake. So you see this is what's got to be discussed. This is what has got to be talked about. ROA and forgive me yesterday I I incorrectly said that that ROA was rat. That's actually not not the case. It actually means broken, which is perhaps even more symbolic, right? We got a we got a broken a broken base there in the Andalooa region of Spain, Roa and We've also got a a base in Siggonella that we can't get to because Georgia Maloney has suddenly decided to no longer be our friend, I guess. I mean, we'll see. She's whichever way with the wind blows, I guess. You heard me say the other day, lad.

[00:04:22]It's a great area. Pavarati did a great job on it along with Nesson Dorma which you guys may know. Um from Rialletto this was Rosini and it's the don the woman is is fickle basically you know whichever way the wind blows and that seems to be the senora in Italy because we need access to that base. 5,000 more troops being taken out of Germany. So I guess a grand total of 10,000. We had thought that 4,200 were leaving Poland, but that is not the case. The president has been very specific about Poland being a great ally to us, and we want to reward, right, good behavior and punish the bad behavior. So, Spain, again, I'm looking at you, Italy as well. We have 13,000 troops in Italy. It's not clear that they're all going to stay. We're making some adjustments and we're going to continue making these adjustments.

[00:05:14]Again, back to Marco Rubio in Sweden today saying, "We're evaluating and re-evaluating all the time." Again, you might want to get your act together, Europe.

[00:05:27]>> So, we are constantly re-evaluating where we're positioning forces. And since the first day of this administration, the Department of War has been working on that. And that's known to our allies. I think you know what's happening now is that any decision that's announced or made is viewed through the broader context of some of the you know the frictions that we've had in recent months. But at the end of the day I think it's well understood in the alliance that the United States troop presence in Europe is going to be adjusted. That that work was already ongoing and uh and it's been done in coordination with our allies.

[00:05:57]I'm not saying they're going to be thrilled about it but they certainly are aware of it. Uh you know we have obligations in the Indoacific. We have obligations in the Middle East. we have obligations in the Western Hemisphere.

[00:06:06]So, um that this has been an ongoing process. It's not shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.

[00:06:12]>> In other words, we got a lot of friends we're making, okay? And we want to diversify a little bit and we we got to take care of business over in the Middle East. We got to take care of business in the Indoacific. We cannot just be 24/7 all about you Europe because you guys are big kids now and you ought to be able to handle it. So this has been a message he's been telegraphing over and over and over and over again. It's a message that you know a lot of the Europeans don't like because you see the Europeans want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to be the bratty kids that say you know no mom and dad I'm going to do this anyway. I'm going out even though I'm grounded. And we're like okay no you you can't do that. You can't do that. And you know, think about I was just talking about Georgia Maloney for example, Lon Moile. So she's out there a couple weeks ago spouting off about how we better keep our commitments. And it's like keep like we're going to make that decision.

[00:07:06]Not you, lady.

[00:07:10]>> Look, I can't tell you what will happen.

[00:07:12]As I've said many times before, we know that for some time now the United States has, shall we say, been discussing a withdrawal from Europe, which is why I believe we must strengthen our security and let's say develop our capacity to respond in this regard. That said, it is clearly >> Okay. Well, we're we're glad that you're getting the picture. She went on to say that she does not support the US withdrawing in any way, but you know, it's really not your decision, Georgia.

[00:07:39]It's kind of our decision. And I think Marco was pretty specific and pretty clear today. What he was saying was we cannot continue to give, give, give, give, give and not have this work for us. In other words, it's a twoway street. We give to you. We expect something in return. We don't expect the middle finger.

[00:08:00]And so in the case of some of these countries, well, like all of these countries, I mean, think about France wouldn't even let us use the airspace for goodness sakes.

[00:08:10]We just can't do it anymore. And we shouldn't have to. And this has been on Trump's agenda from the very beginning.

[00:08:19]Remember when he first stood up there in front of NATO and was like, "You guys have to pay. None of you are pay paying." I mean, and then he got them to commit to 2% and then he got them to commit to 5% and now they have to hold them accountable because they're a bunch of no goods who won't actually pay for the check at the end of the day. They're about to stiff us. So Marco's over there, you know, having to to say, "Listen, th this is serious. We mean business." And you know what's great about this? I think the Europeans are finally getting the message. I mean, you have the Germans, for example, publishing their first defense paper in 80 some odd years. I mean, they haven't been able to. It's the Germans, after all. I mean, we had some reasons for wanting to ensure that they didn't have a military, but you know, that was eight decades ago. And so, we're moving on. And no one thought the Europeans could do it. Nobody thought they would ever bother to do it.

[00:09:15]And now even Democrats are saying, "Yeah, I mean, even Democrats, even the woman I'm going to show you who's out there trying to commandeer some kind of coup in our own military." Yeah, she's one of the sedacious six. Anyway, she's she's a senator, Slackin. And Slackin is like, "Wow." I mean, we never thought we'd see this day, right? Oh, amazing.

[00:09:35]When push comes to shove, what a good businessman in the Oval Office can actually get done, right?

[00:09:42]no way to disagree with the factual uh uh data that they are spending more on their own defense that they are having rapid conversations about European defense separate from us. Like I'm I'm sorry and I say that as someone who was at the Pentagon and like every year went to NATO and was like could you guys please invest more in your own defense and they were like thank you no thank you. Um I don't like Right. And for our European, I'm sure there's some European friends here. I do not like that in order for them to move, they had to be kicked in the teeth. But there's no denying that they moved. Now, Vladimir Putin had something to do with that, too, right? It's not all Donald J.

[00:10:21]Trump. Um but but Donald J. Trump did have kind of a lot to do with it. I think he's kind of the only game in town. I mean, because if it was just Vladimir Putin, they would have been running to us just like Zalinsky was. Please, please, please, please, please, more money, more money, more money, more money. But no, this is Donald Trump and Donald Trump saying, "I'm not giving you any more money." So, it actually, whether she wants to admit it or not, is very much Donald Trump and his policies, guys. I mean, he has made all the difference here. Sure, I mean, they got to fight something with Ukraine given what Vladimir Putin has done, but think about what they did under the Biden administration. We just kept paying through the nose over and over and over and over again.

[00:11:11]We're not going to do it anymore. And that's the difference between a weak administration and a strong administration. This is a strong administration and they are delivering a warning to NATO. Times are a changing, so you better get your act together. All of you, including Spain. Spain has been the worst member of NATO. And Spain at this hour is being looked at very seriously as to whether or not it can continue to be part of the club because, let's just be clear, it's not good to us and it's not good to its other allies.

[00:11:49]I mean, they're trying to muscle their way uh into Gibralar right now, and the UK doesn't appreciate that. All while not allowing us access to our own base.

[00:11:59]Something that Marco Rubio brought up just before he went to Sweden. Watch.

[00:12:04]>> I don't think anyone is shocked to know that the United States and the president in particular is very disappointed at NATO right now and what it has meant.

[00:12:12]Understand that I've been a strong supporter of NATO my entire career. I've defended it. I believe it's important. I believe it's important. But the number one thing I used to tell people was the reason why NATO is good for America because that's the question anytime you join anything you have number one answer has to be why is this good for America?

[00:12:27]The reason why NATO is good for America.

[00:12:29]I know why NATO is good for Europe but why is NATO good for America? Because it gives us bases in the region that allow us to project power during a contingency in the Middle East or somewhere else. So when that is the key rationale for why you're in NATO and then you have countries like Spain denying us the use of these bases well then why are you in NATO? That's a very fair question. Now in fairness other question other countries in NATO have been very helpful but we need to discuss that. That needs to be addressed and that's what I hope to address and to set the table for the leaders meeting which will be happening in Turkey I think next month if I'm not mistaken.

[00:13:02]>> Yeah. So that's what's going on. All right. They got another meeting coming up and that's the one where they're going to actually hold them to the contracts. That's the one last year where they decided, okay, you're going to have to pay 5%. And by the way, I want to point out that the NATO members, the Europeans are trying to say, hey, you know, maybe this will be our last meeting period. our our our grand finale because they don't want to have any more meetings given that every time they go to one of these meetings they wind up having to pay more or they're held accountable for what's due. So they're getting a warning. I mean you look at what's going on right now in Spain. This is why Spain in particular is being discussed as possibly getting kicked out. You see, because well, one, they won't let us use our bases, and that's kind of a big deal. We get two of them right there, and we spend a fortune on these things. They wouldn't have those without us. So, the bases are a big big deal. On top of that, you got Sanchez, little Pedro Sanchez, telling us that the war is illegal. So, that's a big big deal. And then you got well a little skirmish happening there right by Gibralar which belongs to the UK and has belonged to the UK since 1711. Okay. But uh don't tell Spain. Spain thinks somehow that thing still belongs to them. And so much so that they actually got a little aggressive this week with the uh HMS Anson, a submarine that was sent over there to load up on tomahawk cruise missiles. And I think it was kind of sent, if you ask me, by us, because we took off from Gibralar and then we sent a second sub in. And what did Spain do? They started provoking this thing with their little little, you know, little vessels. They got their little ships and they they started, you know, trying to outmaneuver the submarine. It's like, what are you guys doing? We are your well, in this case, it's the UK. We're your ally, right? And so the UK military publications are writing on this thing and they're saying this is not good.

[00:15:03]This is quote reckless and unprofessional.

[00:15:07]Yeah. I mean I'd also add a little bit dangerous. They write despite being a NATO ally, Spain continues to ignore British sovereignty over Gibralar's territorial waters. And these antics have been continuing for several decades. you know, so you get the sub from the UK arriving into town and all of a sudden the little Spanish boats, they think they're like some kind of Iranian vessels or Venezuelan vessels out there. They decide to go speed up to it and get way too close and create all kinds of havoc. That makes me say these guys really aren't our allies and we need to reexamine. I mean, we sent them a message just the other day. They closed down the bases to us. They said, "You can't get in there." And what did we do? We said, "Okay, fine.

[00:15:52]We're going to send a sub. We're going to send a sub right by you because, you know, we don't really need your bases.

[00:15:58]We can just head over to Gibralar. By the way, we don't even need that. We can head anywhere we want in that water. So, I don't understand what Sanchez is doing here. You've seen him before. The war is illegal. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. You know, here's his picture if you want to see who he is.

[00:16:19]Spanish accent. Absolut disaster, right? You know, so he hates us. He hates apparently a lot of his allies there in NATO and he's cozying up to Iran.

[00:16:38]Why? Like why is he I ask like why would you be cozying up to Iran of all the places in the world? I get like some people don't like being told what to do and Spain's got a te ity little economy and they don't really like us telling them how it's going to be.

[00:16:55]But the answer's Iran. I mean, you know, look, you you can go back hundreds of years and I would say overall Spain was not on the winning end of any of that. Like they they've been through some tumultuous times, shall we say, with Islam and with those coming out of the Middle East.

[00:17:13]like it hasn't actually gone that well and they've at various times conquered them. So, um but they they they're glutton for punishment and they seem to be willing to go back for more right now, at least under this leader. Yes, they've had economic ties. They were getting 14% of their oil before the sanctions went into place on Iran. And I think they long for the day where they can actually still be trading with them and they can still get oil from them.

[00:17:37]But I would just say, you know, Spain, you're running a certain kind of risk here. you might get yourself kicked out of NATO. It's something that the Pentagon has actually floated and we thought we were going to have to kick them out, but actually Spain is just doing it to themselves because they're the ones that want to have this allegiance with Iran. They're the ones that are trying to, you know, get sharp elbows with the UK and Gibralar and they're the ones, of course, that are denying us the use of our own bases.

[00:18:02]Now, this president has said we can just go and take them and maybe that's effectively what we will wind up doing after this meeting next month.

[00:18:11]But I do think it's strange that no western country at all wants to have an embassy in Thran right now. I mean, you know, for obvious reasons, like you might have a few things fall down on you. And yet, what is Spain doing? Oh, it just opened one couple of weeks ago.

[00:18:27]Lots of fanfare. They putting an ambassador in and everything. They they they're all about, you know, let's be oneonone with Iran. Buddy buddy with Iran. And I just keep looking at this and saying why? Like why?

[00:18:45]Yesterday I said maybe Sanchez is getting like some kind of deal deal like Tucker has and cutter. I don't know what the answer is. But again, they've had economic ties for a long time, right?

[00:18:54]That that's been for certain. 14% of Spain's oil was coming from Iran before the sanctions went in place. They had a lot of exports that they were selling into Iran back in the early 2000s. So, I I suspect that they're like, "Okay, well, we want the way things used to be.

[00:19:12]Well, you can't have things the way they used to be." And you guys were the ones that signed up for this alliance now, weren't you? You guys were the ones that happily took all our money for these bases, now, weren't you? So, guess what?

[00:19:25]You got to live by the agreement.

[00:19:27]Period. Full stop. And you can't go out there and say that we don't have access to the bases. So, I think that Spain's actually in a lot of trouble right now.

[00:19:35]This is going to be part of the breaking apart of Europe. I've never thought, full disclosure, I never thought the EU would ever work. I mean, I I I just think that you've got too many different cultures. You've got too many different languages. You got too many different personalities, and you don't have any kind of Alexander Hamilton around to kind of whip them all into shape, right? I mean, that's the beauty of the United States. Sure, we got different places with different people, but we have some common denominators. I mean, for starters, we got the same language, right? I mean, they don't even have the same language.

[00:20:08]So, they're really messed up over there.

[00:20:10]And they don't have anybody that's going to be that force. Brussels. What is Brussels? And Ursula, my goodness, they got nothing. And so, Spain, I'm just going to say, you know what? If you want to go and join your Middle East friends in Iran, um, if if you would like to hang out with with China more, because I know you love China, too, be our guest.

[00:20:32]Please be our guest because you know what? We've already made a lot of good lasting friendships in Morocco for example. In Morocco, which actually was the very first the very first little trivia for you. I keep repeating this on the show. So if you guys watch this regularly, you may have heard me say this. I think it's the third time I've said this. Morocco was the first country in the world to recognize us, the United States of America, after we declared independence from Great Britain in 1776.

[00:20:58]Tada. How do you like that? So, you know, they've been a longtime friend and we have some bases there and maybe we expand right there so that we have more control over the straight of Gibralar.

[00:21:09]I'm like wondering what this guy is up to. I really am other than, you know, pulling a Tucker and maybe getting an apartment in Tyrron for his retirement one day.

[00:21:19]I I wonder if he's got some grand delusions of maybe he can control the Straight of Gibralar. Maybe that's the idea. And then he can charge tolls like Iran is trying to charge in the straight of Hormuz. I mean, you're on, you know, some kind of very um illegal drug, I would imagine, Pedro, if that's really what you're thinking. But stranger things have happened. Stranger things have happened. For goodness sakes, New York City elected a communist. I mean, I still cannot believe this. And frankly, in some ways, New York is going to get what it deserves because they were crazy for putting this guy Mam Dami into office. You saw the report that came out this week, 200 plus pages on what went wrong. How could Kamla have possibly lost that election? And I think the conclusion basically was, I'm going to summarize the 200 pages for you. What I always said all along, the Democrat party has lost its way. It's forgotten who its base is. It's gotten such grand stupid almost European but even worse communist mentality type in things into its brain that the Democrat party as a whole is suffering and it's going to continue going down. I mean it's just devastating though to see what's happening in New York. New Yorkers are revoling. Look at this grocery store owner and what he has to say.

[00:22:40]>> No way. there's no way we can uh be open. If if if if I lose 30%, I'm in trouble. I won't be able to pay the rent. I won't be able to pay the the workers. And I don't want to lose the whole thing. Whatever is cost me 45 years working all my life to lose it because, you know, I'm going to be fighting against someone who spending our own money.

[00:23:05]>> Yeah. It's not gonna He's gonna take all your money and he's gonna put it into his coffers and he's going to reallocate it as he sees fit because, you know, he wants to make sure that he has all those daycare centers. Gosh, didn't they do that in Minnesota, right? I do believe the Learing Center daycare center owner was just arrested for fraud. Okay. Fraud. You had a lot of fraud in Minnesota. You got a lot of fraud in California. You got a lot of fraud in all these Democratun places.

[00:23:30]Why? Because you see, when you give people's money to the government, it has a bad tendency of going some really bad places. And yet, this greedy little, you know what, from where's he from? In Africa, he just became a US citizen a few years ago.

[00:23:46]There's some debate on that, too, whether or not they can revoke some of that because I don't think he was completely truthful as to some of the allegiances he had before he came into the United States. But nonetheless, Maami, he hasn't had enough. He wants to tax you even more. is increasing personal income taxes on New Yorkers who make more than a million dollars a year by just 2%. So if you made a million bucks a year, this would be just an extra $20,000 in taxes. The other thing is >> just an extra 20. So he's forgetting too. If you make a million dollar in New York, basically you keep 500. All right?

[00:24:18]If you you keep 500, that sounds great until you realize, oh my gosh, the cost of everything in New York is so absolutely insane because, you know, they get things like rent control where basically if you're paying for your apartment, everybody else is rent controlled. Well, you're going to pay a fortune because you got to subsidize everybody else who's rent controlled for goodness sakes. Oh, and let's not forget school. I mean, who the heck can go to public school in New York City because their schools are terrible, terrible, terrible places where, you know what, they just pass the kids along. They can't even read English. They can't even speak English. And they just get passed on year after year after year after year because the teachers union has all the power and all the money. No, no, no, no, no. We can't allow for them to take any more of our money. And I don't even live in New York anymore. But you understand that this is this is a pandemic if you would. This is a virus and it needs to be squashed out. I mean you think about what has made us successful as a nation.

[00:25:18]You think about the wonderful 250 years that we have had of such tremendous prosperity. And you want to know why that is? It's because the United States of America was founded on the belief in free market capitalism.

[00:25:35]freedom for every single person to get out there and prosper. And you know, it took a lot a lot for those founding fathers to pull that one off. I mean, you think about how much life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. How much does it mean to you really? I mean, would you be willing to possibly sacrifice your life for it? Because that's what these guys did 250 years ago. I mean, our founding fathers were willing to give up everything because you know what? They had lived a little differently. You see, for 150 years, yeah, 150 years prior to the Declaration of Independence, our 13 colonies had been living and prospering and governing themselves in a very, very independent way until Britain came along and said, "No, you guys don't have any self-ruule." Kind of reminds me of today, you know, the communists that want to come along and say, "No, we got your money. We're going to take it.

[00:26:29]we're going to take it and we're going to take it all. Well, that is what Great Britain was trying to do to the colonies.

[00:26:39]And they're looking at him, they're saying, "Well, what on earth is going on? We've been doing perfectly fine even though we were British subjects. You weren't taking everything we had and we lived for 150 years like that."

[00:26:53]So, you had ordinary people.

[00:26:57]ordinary people making extraordinary decisions, choices in which they were risking their lives, they were risking their fortunes, and they were risking their honor because they knew they could not be subjected to that kind of tyranny. They knew the value and importance of independence.

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[00:28:40]There's no other country like us. No other country in the world.

[00:28:45]They'd all like to be, but you know, they just can't figure their way out of a paper bag now, can they? No, because they they think the answer is we're just gonna take take. They think it's like a pie that's this big and you got to grab it all.

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[00:29:15]It is in theaters May 31st through June 2nd. I'm taking my whole family. The whole family is going. It's going to be really fun. Tulsy Gabbard is out.

[00:29:25]She's going to be leaving the White House. She has announced her resignation. She said it had to do with family issues. Her husband is suffering from cancer and she needs to be there for him. Uh the press picking this up and they're having a field day with it.

[00:29:40]You have Reuters, for example, saying, "Oh, she's actually being forced to resign."

[00:29:46]She may be honestly, you know what? I don't know because I I think that there was some funny stuff going on in her department. And I mentioned that because remember Joey Kent, he actually was like her number one guy. He worked for her and he resigned because he was all upset about Iran. And you know, he went from being very, very pro-Israel to being very, very anti-Israel. so anti-Israel that in his resignation letter he like put it right there in the second sentence. It was like whoa. He said I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. And he went on to say Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation. I think the president would disagree with that, Joey. Um and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. So he got that right out there front and center. I just suspect that these guys, in fact, Tulsi as well may not have been on the same page with the president, with Pete Hegsth, and with Marco Rubio. And so, consequently, there is an effort to kind of push them aside. I said this a while ago. I said this when Joey Kent was out. I was like, you know what, Tulsi is going to be I told you guys, Tulsi is going to be next to go. I mean, it it seems logical because there was a lot of leaking going on and that leaking was coming from her department.

[00:31:03]Yeah. And um well also from the vice president's office because you had Tucker Carlson's son working for the vice president and uh it was like on his communications team and somehow all these reporters started hearing stuff all kinds of stuff that was just well effectively Tucker Carlson's talking points. So I suspect that there is an effort right now to consolidate power and that is what is happening. the Trump team is like, "Okay, we need to weed ourselves out of the the you know, you can call them the bad guys, the good guys, whatever." I mean, I I'm sure she's very um emphatic about what she believes in. I I have had people suggest otherwise to me over the years. I mean, a lot of times over the years, and most of the time I just dismiss that as just talk, oh, you know, they they don't like her because she took on Hillary. But I've actually heard this a lot over the years and a lot of people have kind of questioned, let's say, just whose side she's on. And then you think about Joe Kent and some of his stuff and his wife works for a publication that's definitely not on our side like ever, ever, ever. It's, you know, I don't know if it gets paid by the other side or what, but it kind of makes you wonder.

[00:32:14]And then of course, um, you know, there's Tucker Carlson and his rather weird deviation. Um the now he and his brother are talking about using I guess the 25th amendment on the president.

[00:32:27]Yeah. He you saw this one. I I just think that probably more and more people that are of this camp that might be in the White House are probably out and they can go join the Tucker Carlson podcast network. Yeah. There's your future.

[00:32:41]>> We do have remedies for an outofcontrol megalomaniacal, you know, destructive president. I think, you know, honest people who have that power should consider taking it.

[00:32:53]>> So, looking back being cuz I mean you and I and everyone else who supported him, you wrote speeches for him. I campaigned for him. I mean, we're implicated in this for sure.

[00:33:03]>> Yes.

[00:33:03]>> It's not enough to say, "Well, I changed my mind." Or like, "Oh, this is bad. I'm out." It's like in very small ways, but in real ways, you and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now. Yes.

[00:33:18]>> So, I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences.

[00:33:25]Uh, you know, we'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be.

[00:33:30]>> I mean, he he's so torment. He's already tormented, right? The demons are coming and scratching him up at night when he sleeps with his dogs.

[00:33:37]I'm just saying. Okay. So, you get a lot of people that were in that kind of camp, school of thought, whatever. And what's happening now is that the Trump administration is really consolidating itself and Trump world is becoming more and more powerful. And so these people that are on the outs that might have been in the office of Tulsi Gabbard possibly even including herself. I don't think that she was necessarily a a fan or proponent of what is going on right now. Well, they're going to find themselves increasingly on the outs.

[00:34:10]That's kind of a warning if you would for JD Vance. You know, everybody's talking about Marco versus JD and what has happened lately. You see the betting markets all saying, "Guess what? It's going to be Marco. It's going to be Marco." And I would just say that if JD continues to sort of be of this other camp that represents the Tulsi wing of things or the Tucker Carlson wing of things, then he might find himself doing a podcast, too. By the way, I don't think anybody's going to listen to I mean, what was the latest? I guess Tucker's very proud because he's got all these viewers and somebody looked at who actually was listening and it turns out everybody's in Pakistan.

[00:34:46]So, you know, hey, you got a fan base after all. What do you know? Um, oh, there's one more person that can join this little crowd. I think they got to form a whole network. Gosh darn it, they got so many of them now. MTG, remember her? We haven't heard from her in a while. Well, she just showed up on a podcast, not a very good one in my estimation, and she started saying that, well, it got a little wild. I can't even believe believe I'm playing this for you, but she started saying that the president is actually going to call off the election.

[00:35:21]That's how he's going to get himself a third term.

[00:35:25]I mean, you got to hear it all, right?

[00:35:27]You got to hear it because you got to know what's out there. So, I got I got I got to show you and then we can we can discuss.

[00:35:35]I'm concerned and I'll I'll I'll throw something back to it was in uh in the Oval Office uh when Zalinski was there and they were they were having a meeting and it was all on camera and he joked with Zalinski and I I don't I'm not going to quote it exactly right but I'm sure people could find the the interview and um Zalinski said that there were no elections in in Ukraine because they were at war. uh that's why elections had been cancelled. And President Trump turned to him and he he said, "Wait a wait a minute. You mean if there's there's a war going on, you can't have elections." And he said it jokingly, but at the same time, knowing President Trump, I looked at that and I thought, I don't know if he he's saying it joking, but I don't know if he's joking.

[00:36:24]>> So you say during during the war, you can't have elections. So let me just say three and a half years from now. So, you mean if we happen to be in a war with somebody, no more elections? Oh, good. I wonder what the I wonder what the fake >> You like this?

[00:36:43]>> I remember that clip. And that's what that's what people do. That's what psychos do, but others, their humor is them actually flaunting it and telling you like when they have, you know, marry his daughter or have sex with his daughter.

[00:36:55]>> Oh, okay. Sorry, guys. I'm going to fast forward to her again because I don't want to listen to that. Um, here we go.

[00:37:02]Wh what about that?

[00:37:04]>> Well, that's so so that type of behavior is someone planning an idea over and over and over again. He constantly says it so that he can normalize the idea.

[00:37:13]No, he doesn't >> and test the support and test people's reactions, but saying it over and over and over again normalizes the idea. And um I I think it's incredibly dangerous and no one should ever accept it.

[00:37:27]Absolutely. Absolutely not. There cannot be a third term. No. Nobody said that's against the Constitution. There is no third term and it's this country is at war >> again. Um I I is she coming to us live from Costa Rica?

[00:37:42]Didn't she like sell her house in Georgia and flee the country? I don't know. I I think that you you have a bunch of disgruntled people who would like to be leaving the party and they realize they can't get elected to anything. They can't keep a job and they're on the wrong side of history. Thank you very much. I mean, wow.

[00:38:03]MTG gosh. I mean, floating all kinds of conspiracy theories with another conspiracy theorist. I mean, they all are conspiracy theorists. You know, I trade in real news, real information right here, right now. We're not going to hypothesize about the president trying to confiscate the elections and like not have I mean, come on.

[00:38:25]It's a fear factor thing. It's nuts. And they're just a bunch of hasbins, frankly. Hasbs, okay? Hasbands that we really shouldn't spend any time thinking about. But on a day like today when Tulsi Gabbard's out, it's worth knowing that there is a wing of the party that will welcome her and there is a wing of the party that will try and prop her up and say, "Okay, Tulsa, you really resigned because you're against the war, right? The war is bad. The war is bad." And there is not just a wing of the party, which frankly I don't think they're part of anymore. I think the president has made it pretty darn clear who's in charge, if you would. You saw the election, right?

[00:39:06]Massie went down. Massie went down. All Massie could do is complain about Israel all the time. All the time. You know, it's like he's going back to the well on Israel. Israel, Israel, is Oh, sounds like another guy I know. What a schmuck.

[00:39:21]This >> American empire, which is dying.

[00:39:23]hastened by this war with Israeli empire and one thing I noticed I can't contain myself and have to express it but when you say that the Israelis are destroying Beirut which is having been to a lot of places in the world one of the prettiest places on the globe Beirut is just a is a marvel it's beautiful it reminds me um and it's being destroyed by Israel which is one of the single ugliest countries in the world nothing of beauty has been built there since 1948 sorry I've been everywhere in that country and it's true that the nature of this emerging empire is destructive and it always seems like beautiful things wind up being destroyed. Europe, right? Beirut.

[00:40:01]>> Oh my goodness gracious. I know. I feel like I have to take a shower just looking at him.

[00:40:07]He's taking a turn, shall we just say?

[00:40:10]And we don't know exactly why, but I have a feeling kaching might be involved. Or just plain old clicks, which I guess equal kaching. And you know what?

[00:40:21]Good.

[00:40:24]Bye. Out. Gone. Don't want to see you again. I hope the Pakistani bot farms pay well. Okay. Cuz you know, real Americans, real conservatives, people that like this president don't need to hear from you or your little friend down in Costa Rica or all the people at DNI that have left.

[00:40:49]I mean, your son, by the way, that was leaking like a sie allegedly. So, I hear out of the vice president's office. You know, I'm sure the vice president was like, I don't need this. Like, get rid of this kid for goodness sakes. All right. They're off in their own little La La Land where they're going to make crazy crazy commentaries. I mean, one of them, Candace. Oh, guess who? She's entertaining these. She just did an interview with Hunter Biden. Okay.

[00:41:17]Because you know what they say, cream rises to the top. You know what happens to everything else?

[00:41:25]Well, they wind up on a podcast together.

[00:41:29]Hunter Biden and Candace Owens coming to you live. Wow.

[00:41:34]So, I'm sure that all of these people will find some hospitality in various Democrat circles, but the rest of us are glad to see them go.

[00:41:47]Fed chief. Oh, we got a brand new Fed chief, you guys. Kevin Worsh stepping up to the plate. And wow, this is going to be kind of a a different day. Now, he's got a lot of work to do, okay? because no one at the Fed actually understands what AI is going to do to the economy.

[00:42:04]And I can tell you why. While it's going to be spectacular, it's going to have a deflationary effect because guess what?

[00:42:11]You can do a whole lot more with a whole lot less when you get all these computers working for you. We saw it happen right around 2000, right? The bursting of of technology onto the scene. What did that do? It drove inflation lower. I mean, the Fed was sort of shocked. It didn't matter. they could just print away and you know there was no inflation for a while. Well, until there was. But it's a very interesting kind of economic equation here because normally when you have a Fed that prints a ton, it would actually mean a lot of inflation.

[00:42:46]But in this new world, I have a feeling we're going to be printing a lot more and there's kind of a debasement of currency going on. But whether or not it's uh going to result in massive inflation in the real sense in consumer prices, I think that's actually to be debated. Anyway, I digress. Let me go over to the president and Kevin Walsh today at the Oval uh not in the was in the Oval Office, it was at the White House. Here we go.

[00:43:15]>> Unfortunately, in the eyes of many, the Fed lost its way in recent years. It became distracted by concerns far removed from its core mission and mandate, drifting into matters such as climate policy and DEI initiatives. With the Fed straying from its mandate while the last administration blew out the deficit, Americans suffered the worst inflation that we had in history. It was the worst inflation we've ever had. As you know, some people say you're wrong about that. It was only in 48 years, but I think 48 years almost sounds worse.

[00:43:48]the worst inflation we've ever had. So, it made it very difficult. Kevin has spoken often about the need to restore the Fed's integrity by returning to a proper focus on its two functional and really fundamental responsibilities, maintaining price stability and low inflation and achieving full employment.

[00:44:07]And we talk about it, we've talked about it often. And right now we have the most.

[00:44:14]>> So I think Kevin Worsh is going to be a breath of fresh air. He's gonna come in there and he's going to say, "Okay, let's really look at this in a different kind of way." Because Powell couldn't.

[00:44:23]All right. Powell, it was so obvious we were going to get massive inflation during COVID. And what do he do? He kept printing and printing and printing and printing and then like CO came away and he kept printing and printing and printing and printing and now as we're looking at this AI boom, he won't print.

[00:44:35]And it's like, buddy, you got it all wrong.

[00:44:40]Totally wrong. It's like ask backwards, which we used to say in New Hampshire, backend two. Nobody knows what that means except, you know, if you're from New Hampshire, or at least my little like district in New Hampshire, we'd say back into, but that means I guess ass backwards. And that's what the Federal Reserve has been ass.

[00:44:58]Anyway, my feeling here on this is, you know, while inflation may not be crazy, you need to protect your dollars because the price of everything overall will keep going up. And yes, maybe you'll earn a little bit more money, but everything is going to keep on going up.

[00:45:16]And this is what has been happening. And yes, inflation right now is actually kind of bad because of what's going on in Iran. I get it. That's real inflation, right? But there's another kind of thing. It's the debasement trade. It's why I actually still like gold in this environment. why I include gold in my portfolio and why I think it's one of the best diversification tools that you can have. And this segment, funny enough, is brought to you by our wonderful friends, Dr. Kirk.

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[00:46:19]Again, just part of a well-diversified portfolio. You don't have to take my word for it. Take a look at what the central banks have been doing. Gold surging all through 2026. And while we just have Q1 numbers here, they've been growing and growing and growing and growing in continuation here. And that's really helped to keep those gold prices high. So take a look at that when you can. But I would just say, wow, you know, so much going on. But bottom line here is we have a very different environment in which we're now living where a president for the first time in like my lifetime is able to really get stuff done like really call the shots. I think first time around was kind of hard, right?

[00:46:59]Because first time around he had all the incoming and he he was trying to deal with the incoming and now he's still got the incoming, don't get me wrong, but he's like whatever. I'm doing what I need to. I'm doing what I have to to get things done. And you guys can complain all you want. And the late night shows on ABC and other networks can go on and on and on and on about me all they want.

[00:47:25]But the reality of the situation now is I'm in charge and I've just proven it.

[00:47:30]Just look what happened to Cassidy and Ma Massie, right? Like all within a week. It's really pretty darn incredible. I I'll just say this, you know, we are at a tipping point. I would say that we're at the the stage where we've got to start making some hard decisions. Hard decisions about our future. I would not be surprised if we start seeing more and more and more more people coming over to our side of things. And you know why? Because we're getting it right.

[00:47:59]We don't want to be Europe.

[00:48:02]We don't want to be Venezuela. We don't want to be Cuba. We don't want to be any of these godforsaken places that don't have a shot at anything. Heck, Sweden, where the NATO meeting is going on right now, guess what? They're capitalists now. We did that story the other day for you. Wall Street Journal did a big one on it as well. They are full-on capitalists in Sweden because they figured it out, too.

[00:48:24]It is the best way to ensure prosperity.

[00:48:28]Here is the president just moments ago talking about how awful New York has become. And he's right. New York can never be the same if it's losing its tax base. And the people that pay 85% of the taxes are leaving and we're taking in illegal immigrants.

[00:48:49]Oh, they're wonderful people and all, but they're not paying any tax. They're taking your money.

[00:48:57]They're taking your money. The people that pay 85 to 90% of your taxes are leaving. And you know when they go they never come back. They never come back.

[00:49:09]Nobody calls them. Nobody does anything.

[00:49:11]Nobody talks to them. Nobody says, "Please don't leave. WE'LL GIVE YOU A TAXATE. WE'LL DO ANYTHING. Don't leave."

[00:49:19]But they're leaving. They're going to Florida. They're going to Tennessee.

[00:49:23]They're going to Texas. They're going to South Carolina, North Carolina. They're going all over the place. But they're leaving. And we can't let it happen.

[00:49:31]It's a great place. If we can't, Bruce will stop it. Mike will stop it. They're all going to stop it. They'll bring him back.

[00:49:43]I hope it stops, but I'm not so sure. Not with a guy like Ma'am Dami in there.

[00:49:50]You cannot tax your way to prosperity.

[00:49:52]All right? Like, it's been tried many, many times. Go look all over the world. Like, everybody's tried it. It doesn't work.

[00:50:02]You want to be the strongest economy in the world. You want to be the strongest financial center in the world, New York.

[00:50:09]You're about to seed it to Miami. It's going to happen because why would anybody stay in New York?

[00:50:19]We got to remember our values. We got to stay true to those values.

[00:50:24]And I think this president is really showing the country the way. Thank you for being here. Thank you for all you do to make this show a success. I'm going to be back here live with you on Monday and lots of content coming to you through the weekend. We're going into Memorial Day. Thank you so much to all of the brave soldiers that served this country. Thank you to all of those families that lost their loved ones and to those soldiers that risked their lives often paying the ultimate price so that we could enjoy the freedoms that we must protect. Good to have you here. See you Monday.