Vinylester resin, a modified epoxy combining polyester and epoxy properties, offers 50 times more stress cycles than polyester resin before failure, making it ideal for high-performance custom boat construction. The hand layup process involves strategically layering different fiberglass materials: 3/4 oz chopped strand mat as a binder, 1708 tape for perimeter reinforcement where stress concentrates at corners, and 3610 (1 oz mat stitched into 36 oz bioax) for structural strength, all catalyzed with full-strength catalyst and rolled to eliminate air bubbles while the resin remains workable.
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I didn't realize there's so much so much potential here that we haven't got to.
Today, guys, we're going to lay up this panel, this bulkhead here. I've already activated my resin, my vinyl resin. I'm going to start priming this panel real quick. Without further ado, we're going to lay up this this small bulkhead here, which is the Let's see. This is We're up in the front of the boat. It's 27 foot custom boat that I'm building and we're working with 100% pure vinyl resin today. Guys, I was thinking about this.
You're not going to see this type of construction probably. I don't think you're going to see this anywhere on YouTube because this isn't exactly common place in this industry. This is very rare.
Production boats are just not built like this. They're not. This is a customuilt boat. All composite, no wood. Um, we use core materials.
Where we use lightweight materials is we use different materials, but the rest of the boat will mostly be CUSA. And I use CUSA specifically for a reason. Number one, I can buy it at a pretty fair price. Most people think it's really expensive, and it is if you buy it retail, which I don't. I buy it from a distributor and uh so therefore I can use good quality materials because I have access to good quality materials at a fair price. So I don't say that everybody can do this. This is uh you know I'm fortunate I get to work with very good materials. Uh the jobs warrant the type of quality of materials that I'm working with and we're building you know a high quality boat. So that's what we're doing. This is 100% vinylester.
Again, not common place in the industry.
Some boat manufacturers will use vinylester for their skin coat just so the boat doesn't have blistering problems should the boat ever stay in the water.
Um, but there are more benefits, a lot more benefits to using vinylester for construction, not just for uh a skin coat like is typical.
The big reason I use vinylester is because vinyl vinyl resin is a it's basically they call it a modified epoxy.
It's a fancy way of saying they took polyester resin and they married it to epoxy.
Polyester resin and epoxy had a baby and that baby is vinylester resin. They took the best of both and married them into one. What that gives you is it gives you 50 times Well, let me be clear. Vinylster resin can see 50 times more stress cycles than polyester resin to failure. I don't know if I said that exactly right, but what that means is if a part will fail at 100 cycles, a laminate whatever built out of polyester resin, the same part built out of vinylester resin will then fail at 1,00 cycles.
That's why that's why I use vinylester resin, guys.
Got my phone in the background. you guys can hear.
Getting some notifications.
Wonder how my audio is today. Guys, we're miked up. Got a new mic.
I am wearing a respirator. Check it out.
So, it's why you'll hear me panting, huffing, and puffing. It's like wearing a Scooby mask a little bit.
But uh anyway, so I get distracted telling you guys what's going on. But I do got to I got to get to work there.
I'm here by myself. I don't have a camera in. So I'm going to work and I'm going to talk and fill you in as we go.
What I just dropped down was 3/4 ouncez chop strand mat. I'm flooding this chop strand mat with resin because I'm about to put some heavier cloth on top of it.
I'm going to put some 1708 about it's about 5 or 6 in 5 in wide. We call it tape when it's cut into narrow strips. So, we'll call it 1708 tape.
That's kind of what we call it. So, it's trade trade name. And we're going to do that around this perimeter.
And then I'm going to drop 3610, which is like two layers of 1808. And guys, all this nomenclature talk is in the business. 1708, 1808, 2408, 3610.
All those numbers signify different weights of oh fiberglass and they all serve different purposes.
And there's plus or minus 45. The bax will crisscross overlap, not criss-cross, they don't weave. Baxes that we use are not woven. There's woven fiberglass. Woven fiberglass has like a basket weave. That's old school technology.
What we're using is by which they are strands of fiberglass sewn stitched together that they one crosses this way, one crosses that way. They'll go 090, they'll go plus or - 45, and they do different things. Plus or - 45 will tend to go around curves really nicely.
whereas 090 kind of favors um flat panels.
Let me get over here. I'm off camera over here. I'm letting out some some of the 1708 over here.
I need to stop yelling because I didn't realize this microphone is like a couple inches from my mouth.
Guys, I've been doing these layups for a little while.
call these live lamps.
But, uh, I do have a full YouTube channel with a bunch of other videos. If you're interested, check out the rest of the stuff on my channel, all kinds of stuff. I do fun shorts, kind of a broad range of stuff. I know YouTube Oh, we got a dribble going down the other side. We'll have to uh we're going to have to touch grab some of that resin running down the other side. Also got a little puddle running down over here, too.
That's the thing about doing these lives, guys. There's no editing. There's no there's no time to edit it. So, when I have little oopsies, and there will be oopsies.
When I have those happen, I I will adjust on the fly as needed. This is the 1708 right here.
Cap in the top. Whoops.
Bump my head on a light. Boy, we're full of issues today. All right, so I got some resin running down this backside over here. This side's finished over here. The layup.
Not a big deal. We just don't want to have to clean up that puddle later. So, we'll leave that there.
Okay, let's keep going.
Over here off camera, I got a board with some masking paper on it. And I'm laying this 1708, but just like what you saw there, I'm laying it down on this paper with the mat side up. I'll show you a closeup here in a second. I'll show you what I'm talking about.
Like this.
So, I'm over here wetting this out on a board with masking paper over there. I do that so I can just clean up and throw that paper masking paper away. very inexpensive in the big scheme of things.
And the matte side is the side that's got the chop fiberglass when you're working with this type of resin, not epoxy.
Epoxy doesn't require you to use anything with chop stranded mat built into the the vinyl and polyester resins do use that as a binder.
And you uh you should use fabric with mat stitched in or you can add the mat just like I did on my first layer. That's the binder. That's what allows it to bond.
I'm not sure the technical reason why that is required. I just know that it is. I can't explain it to you. So, I'm not going to try.
Just trust me on that because people that I trust tell me that's how it to be. When you're working with epoxy, it's not necessary.
Use like materials like 1700 without any mat and it actually consumes less resin.
The mat's not necessary. So, you get a lighter weight part.
I got to remember what order I did these. Let me check my numbers over here.
This again, another piece over here.
This is the 1708.
Matt side. Matt side's going down.
I did this compartment forward.
I was going to film that live. I'm glad I did because I would have been cussing the whole time. When I did this, I was laying in this material the whole time, leaning over it. I uh I kind of kind of forgot that that was going to be a problem for me and I was wearing resin.
I did a brief little live at the end of that day. It's kind of funny. Talked to the owner yesterday. He saw that and he said, "Man, I could tell you worked hard that day." And I did. I was whooped.
That was lively ups number nine, which all I did was recap what I'd done.
I think that was Friday.
But anyway, I'm going to keep doing these things. I think the benefit for you guys, if you're into this kind of stuff, if you like boats, if you like fabrication, again, 1708 here, this is going down here on the bottom. If you like this kind of stuff, and I'm doing this live, you're not going to miss any steps. So, you're going to see the whole thing. Oopsies and all.
When things go wrong, I will uh I will address it.
Now, the reason I'm doing this, and I I'll explain why.
The 1708 is going around the perimeter because all the stress goes to the corners. Anytime there's stress, it goes to the corners. It doesn't You'll never see cracks or anything fail in the middle of a flat panel like that. It's just not going to happen. All the stress is in the corners. So, I've got these large radiuses going around here and all that glass is building. I'm doubling up the glass. Not really doubling it, but there's extra layers in the where all the stress is going to be. And then in a minute, we'll put this heavy cloth over top of it. And then it'll all become one.
Having that 1708.
Having this 1708 underneath here also. And number one, it's holding more resin for that 3610 that's going to come on top of here and soak it all up. So it's acting like a sponge holding this resin on this vertical wall.
It also acts like a little bit of a cushion. I've got these nice smooth radiuses in here. Pull that resin back up here. I've got a little puddle running down here. I'll get a brush for that and pull it back in here.
That acts like a cushion.
It's uh this 17 I can fill any imperfections.
Like if there were imperfections in my radius and it's it's not perfect. It was just putty. I ground the crap out of it.
So there'll be little divots and stuff like that.
And um the 1708 will fill those in and conform to those much better than this 3610 that's going to come on top of here.
So, this will this will tuck into all the little nooks and crannies really easily, and then you won't have big puddles of resin underneath it. When I put this 3610 on here, you might have what's called bridging, where the material just can't get in to the tight little nooks and crannies or crevices up here. This 1708 just wrapped around here. I try not to do the nip and tuck things. A lot of guys will get in here with scissors. I'll stretch it out here.
Cut, cut, cut. I'll just rather have overlaps. And I'd rather my my ends just roll and stretch and then they conform than get in there with scissors and cut cut. You start cutting all those strands, then you're cutting the strands. You're you're cutting the strength out of it as opposed to strategically placing your ends where they can spread out. So, I do it a lot differently than stuff I've seen on YouTube.
That's kind of why I did this channel is because I've seen so much on YouTube that well, I see some good stuff, but I see a lot of stuff that I I find questionable.
I feel like if there's so many people watching that and they think that it's the only way to do it, it it just I don't know. I It doesn't sit well with me. I feel like people should have see it done a different way.
Maybe a better way in my opinion, but I'm not gonna, you know, knock what I see out there. There's just different ways to do this. So, this is how I do it. You guys can decide if you like it or not. If you do, hey, throw me a thumbs up. Tell me you like the channel.
Tell me you like what I'm doing.
Again, this is 100% vinylester. We're killing this bucket here.
And there's another step to this that I remind you guys in every one of these videos why I do what I do. This is my kind of signature thing. We're going to do it in a second. So stick around. I'll show you how I can roll with this one roller. While this first batch is kicking off, going hard. I'll have this roller still cleaned out and I'll be doing another layup and another layup and another layup without changing out my roller. And I'll show you how I do that.
That's key, guys.
The roller it costs $2.
That pad anyway, it costs $2. It's just part of the deal.
That's what I need to get the apply the resin. It's a consumable.
Just goes in the trash when it's done. I used to clean out the bigger rollers.
Sometimes I do. The problem with it is it it um contaminates more acetone than the roller is worth.
So, you got to pick and choose your battles there and weigh it out if it's going to burn up $5 worth of acetone.
I'm better off just throwing that roller away.
So, this is 3610, guys. It's got the mat on the back side. I didn't show you that, but it's there, trust me.
It's there. And uh now here's what we're going to do. I've got this much resin left. It's not enough to finish this panel.
We're going to start wetting this out.
Check the back side. See how much resin we got running down over here.
Not too bad over here again. So, the fact that I cut this here and I cut this there and that stretch without me cutting here and cutting here. And then the same thing down here.
You look where my cuts end. I'm not going in and pleading those or darting those as some people say. I'm not doing that. I'm letting the glass just roll into the corners. I'm not going to get in there and cut them. I don't have to.
So, that's that's just um I'm knowing I know from experience that I can let that glass roll into there. and you'll learn by trying it. It also helps to have those large radiuses that they did.
That certainly helps. The glass wants to roll through them, which is good for stress.
And um these boats are these boats are they see a lot of stress pounding through the water, guys. Even on the trailer, just trailer and a boat, this boat will end up weighing several thousand lbs.
Uh, if I had to guess, I'd say it's probably going to weigh, you know, 8 9,000 lbs. I guess just a rough guess.
And you take 300 gallons of fuel. I can't do that math right now cuz I'm thinking about this. I could stop and do that math, but I'm focusing on this.
Someone in the comments, tell me how much 300 gallons of gasoline weighs.
Add that to the equation.
Oh yeah guys. So also that's another thing that's interesting. Talk about weight. Vinylester resin weighs less than polyester resin per pound or not per pound. They weigh exactly the same per pound. Now per gallon they're there. This vinyl does weigh less per pound. They are identical.
All right. All right. So, what I'm doing now, guys, I am drying out this roller.
I almost wish I had a little bit less resin in the pot so that I could dry it out more.
I'd like this to be completely bone dry, but that's not going to happen in this layup cuz I had a little bit more resin than I needed. I almost had enough to finish this side, which I didn't expect.
Another thing too, guys, every time I go out there and I'm like, "All right, how much resin do I need for this particular layup?" There is no way to calculate that. You can guess and you can get close, but um it's it's just an educated guess.
So, I know if somebody's doing this at home in their garage and they're like, "Well, how much resin do I need for this job?" As I buy this in 55gallon drums, and I'm going to need more than one drum to do this entire boat. So, I I'm not working on that level. I don't calculate how much I'm going to use to the ounce.
I know I need it. And when that drum's empty, I know I need more. So, unfortunately, I can't help you with that.
I can tell you when it's done, if you're interested, leave a comment and I'll get back to you and I'll tell you exactly how much I used to do this.
If that really really piqu your curiosity, I can do that for you.
But this resin went a little further than I expected it to. However, that said, it's not enough to finish this side. So, I'm going to have to run mix more because I don't have anyone here to help me do that. So, what we're going to do, I know I need more resin. I'm not even going to roll this yet cuz I know I need more resin.
So, let me go do that.
Clean up this little dribble we got going down the back over here.
This is what it is.
Going right up to the top here. All right, we need more resin. We mix this side. I'll probably mix enough kind of to jump over to this side over here.
I need a brush. Anybody see my brush?
There it is.
I got my brush. How's my audio, guys?
How's my audio?
I got this new mic on my jacket here.
Before I was struggling with the audio, but now Oh, stop. Quit stabbing at it.
Quit stabbing at it. All right, we need resin, guys.
Take your thrower over here and dry this out on my masking paper over here.
Go mix some more.
Guys, I can't see the uh screen on the camera phone there. So, I saw that there were some chats. Just saw it. Glanced over there and saw it.
But, uh I can't respond because my hands are sticky. And I've got gloves on. I do see all your comments later.
Um, YouTube processes and it takes 24 hours and then I go back and I can see your comments, but it does take a day.
If you're curious, I will respond to your comments if you have questions, but it will take uh YouTube 24 hours to to process the video. I don't understand that.
But that's what the way it works.
Huffing and puffing, guys. So, the respirator does restrict your air flow a little bit. I'm really not that poorly conditioned, but it does restrict your air flow.
Perfect, man. Two in a row. Exactly. 32 mus.
So, we're using full strength catalyst and it is pretty warm today.
So, I'm right at for my 32 oz.
We're dropping right about 12 1/2 cc's, which is less than 1 and 12%.
But the thickness of that laminate, I'm okay with less than 1 and 12%. Normally, I would say that's not possible. But it really with final resin, you do need to make sure you're catalyzing it to get the full physical properties of the resin. You have to get it full. You have to use full strength catalyst.
Absolutely no question. Full strength catalyst. And uh some catalyst out there you can get that are like only 30% strength.
And when you're buying that little squeeze bottles that you do drops, I don't know how to help you guys. I don't know how to tell you whether you got full strength catalyst or not when you're buying it in a little squeeze bottle. Um again, I buy it in a gallon form. And I'm not bragging. I'm just saying that that's how I do it. I buy it in a gallon. I know exactly what I'm getting. And if I were buying at retail, I would search I would search high and low, find out what that catalyst is, what that mep is in that container. I'd want to know exactly what it is. I know exactly what's in this one. We are catalyzed and we're coming back.
Climbing up the ladder, coming across the stringers here.
And there's our fresh batch of resin, guys. Let me peek. Where were we at on the timer? Let's see. All right. Well, we got some comments here. Cool. Thanks guys for hanging with me. Build the boat. Um, yeah, we're 23 minutes in.
That helps keeping this timer.
23 minutes into this layup.
I saw Timothy in there. Hey, Timothy.
What's going on, bud? Timothy's been with me for a while. I think it's Timothy. I don't want to call you out or anything like that, but thanks for hanging with me, man. Timothy has been hanging with me for a couple years now.
I appreciate him commenting when he does.
I saw you pretty quick glance. I mean, the SC the phone is really small the screen over there, but I did see you there. Thanks for hanging.
I got plenty of resin. All right, so at this point, I got fresh resin on my roller.
should be good. I normally like to dry my roller out more. That's what I wanted to show you. I wanted to dry this roller out in that glass and have it almost empty with resin so that when I dip it into the fresh, brand new resin that I just mixed, now this roller has new extended life. It's like a cheat code.
Extended life. All right.
So, this is going to continue to soak in as I roll this, which I'm going to roll now. I've got the loudest roller on the planet, guys. Wait till you hear this.
It is obnoxious. First, we're going to start with this big one.
I'm going to use a bigger roller just to do the center panel because the center of the panel is kind of flat.
This big roller is 6 in wide, 3/4 in diameter. I'm going to roll out here real quick because the panel is fairly flat out here in the middle.
When you get to any uneven surface, however, though, it's going to bridge and it won't roll.
So, it'll just bridge across it, which is most of this is flat kind of in the middle here.
This one's nice and quiet. Listen how quiet that roller is. That's That's a beautiful thing. Wait till you hear my noisy roller. I don't know why that thing is so loud. There are no bearings in these things. It's just metal to metal. This one is kind of worn in. It's probably about 15 years old. It's got some miles on it.
It's nice and quiet, though.
So, this is the reason why you're watching, guys.
I'm not bragging. I have just developed techniques that work for me.
And by me showing you techniques that work for me, perhaps you can kind of leaprog a little bit.
I've only been doing this most of my life, but if you've only been doing it for a couple months and you see something that I've been doing for 30 years that helps you, that's why we're doing this.
So like, subscribe, share with a friend.
You know, you know how it works.
YouTube will reward me in another five years. Hopefully, we're getting there.
I'll be honest with you guys. When I started this channel, I didn't expect much. I was curious about it. Always curious about YouTube and how it works.
Um, I've caught little glimpses of insight.
I find it interesting.
I do think YouTube's a little bit greedy with their uh ad sharing revenue.
However, I also sell stuff on Amazon. I work with other big big uh type, you know, organizations like that. And what you have to understand is what it costs for them to build this platform.
So, when I say they're a little greedy, I mean they're just a little stingy with their their ad revenue, but it certainly weeds out the uh the hobbyest YouTuber from the pros. Once they weed out and you are a pro, I'm sure they reward you quite well. I'm just a hobbyist right now, but I would like a channel to grow. The issues I have with YouTuber, they want to put you in a little box.
They want you to do the same thing over and over and over again. And that's not me, guys. I'm sorry.
So, I'll probably always remain a small channel, and that's fine.
But I will do it. I'll do the things that I want to do.
They always give you like these funny little suggestions and they want me to copy Wavy Boats.
No, I don't want to do a Wavy Boats channel. That's I have spent some time watching Wavy Boats.
I'm not going to do a wavy boats YouTube channel. And there are so many people trying to duplicate wavy boats and haul over inlet and all that.
No, I'll just do this, guys. I don't want to do that.
Funny.
Funny the AI and the algorithms and the the suggestions you got. All right, guys. That looks really good. Good enough to dress a mat on it.
I don't want to dillydally around too much. Oh, another thing I will tell you, I've got a fan going. When I was doing one of the layups in that forward section over there, the fan was really screwing me on uh making the resin sticky and tacky cuz it was blowing off the flashing off the styrene. The styrene in here will evaporate.
And as it evaporates, it um the resin the the vinyl resin will get tacky on the surface. So sometimes it'll get so tacky that it'll lift up and just it makes it really hard to work with. It's makes it so hard to work with that it's not worth the comfort of having the air moving in the shop. So sometimes I won't even have the fan on.
But that fan's pretty far away. It's blowing right down the middle of the boat. And this is tucked back in here.
I don't think it's going to be affected by it today.
So, and this thing, guys, the other benefit to this using this, they are $2 and it's going to get thrown away, but I should jump over and we're going to do the other layup on the other side. So, I should get both sides done, which be nice. Just keep moving. I have to now because I've got about 20 ounces of resin sitting over there that I got to use up somewhere.
But what I'm saying or what I was going to say, my mind got going a different direction was this does kind of act like a roller. You can push air out. You push resin in. It's it's really handy and and unless you try it, you really just have to try it and then see how it works.
It's pretty cool. It's a great tool.
Those hard rollers will get, you know, the air out and press them out. This does a good job because it it won't squeeze resin out if you push too hard.
It conforms to the shape kind of nice.
Great little tool. I call these hot dog rollers. I don't know exactly what the technical term is. I'll look at the packaging.
Yeah.
Let's get the mat on there, guys. And try and do this with one set of gloves.
Whoops.
We're going to finish this side.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh. Guys, couple things going on here.
This is where [ __ ] might go sideways.
I'm going to look like a beginner.
All right, slow down. We got our top good.
Tuck these in here.
Don't worry about all this. I got some that I could patch fill in.
That's a big giant plate that we don't really need.
We don't want to pull it down. We're going to tear it. We're not going to get in our scissors and stab it and cut it.
We're not going to do all that. We're just going to tear it.
I have scissors over there. I'm just not going to use them for this.
Just watch that little feet will work out.
Get some resin in here real quick.
Looking good. I'll have to fill in a couple there and a couple here. I could use this or I could get some fresh material over there. This is not going to do me any good. So, let me get rid of this.
Hope you guys are enjoying this. Again, it's live. No cameraman. So, I just got to park the camera there and you got to sit and hang out.
Hope you can see what I'm doing.
Here's what we're going to do. This is a This is the 3/4 chop stream mat. Same layer, same material we put down in the beginning. This finishes out the 3610.
Covers up the 1708. Boy, I sure would like to bend that a little bit. Hold on.
Let's see if we can wrap this around like this. Try and get fancy here. I would like this to do this.
Let me see if I can do this real quick.
I'm manipulating this 3/4 ounce mat around this. Do you see that? I just made it do a complete 90 degree bend.
I love doing I love doing stuff like that cuz it's really not supposed to do it. I mean, it's I'm not saying it's not supposed to. It absolutely does. I just haven't seen anybody else do it, that's all. But you can manipulate this stuff, make it bend to your wheel.
And once you figure out how to make it do that, it's so much just makes your life so much easier. But again, I haven't seen anyone else do it. I uh I learned it by experimenting. I was fortunate to work with some guys that were very, very talented in this field.
I'm a boat builder. I've been building boats since I was a kid.
But I also do like the entire process. I build molds. I build plugs. I build boats. I rig boats. I'll hang the engines. I'll install the electronics.
I'll do the wiring.
I'll install the hardware. I'll paint the boats. I am a they like to say a jack of all trades, master of none. But I take issue with that because I'm pretty good at everything I do. That's not bragging.
It's not. I just do everything and I have a very high set of standards. No matter what I do, my standards are the highest heist.
What was that? What do we have going there, guys? That was a weird little What do we have going on right there?
Can you guys see that?
That's almost like there was resin on that mat there. Hm.
I'll have to let me monitor that. That may have like a I don't know how that's possible. Unless that first layer of glass that I had when I tore it, if the resin got on there, I'll show you what I'm talking about here in a second, guys. This little spot right here is bridging and it's not supposed to be bridging.
So, I'll look at that a little closer in a second.
It's like I told you when we're live here and there's nothing. I'm not editing nothing out.
If it messes up, I'm going to show you and I'll fix it.
And if I can't fix it now, I'll fix it later.
All right, we're looking good.
I'm curious why that was doing that little bridge right there.
It's misbehaving. Not acting how it should.
Let me get a hard roller on it and see what it is. I may have to tear that out.
If for some reason the resin that I set over here when I tore that stuff off, like I got it right here, the stuff that I tore off, if that resin made contact with that mat that I had sitting over here ready to go and that started to get hard sitting out here, that's possible.
We'll find out here in a second.
Got to shake the acetone out. See, they're soaking in a bucket of acetone over here. This is the noisy roller.
That's the fan making everything sticky, guys.
Yep. That's exactly what I was talking about earlier.
Fan feels nice, but makes the resin sticky. And that's pretty fresh.
This is my noisy roller.
When it gets I guess little boogers on there, you have to get them off or you'll just start lifting up glass as you go.
Look at that weird spot. No, melted in.
Not sure why it was behaving like that, but it certainly was.
All right.
I'm not sure how long we're into this, guys, but I'm going to I'm going to let the We're going to move to the other side here in a second.
Obviously, I got to We're going to jump right to the other side and get going again.
And then I'll kind of hop back over here and soak up some of the excess resin that's just kind of laying on the surface or in the corners here.
Come back over and I'll pull it out. We do we do have a fair amount of resin on the surface here.
So, when I'm rolling, uh, it might look like I'm just kind of going all over the place and and I might be, you know, having a having a distracted mind. I kind of I'll ramble, change directions on a whim.
But, um, usually what you'll do is you work from the middle out. You work from the center out and you don't jump around much.
Obviously, if I see something, I'm going to go get it. If I see air or a puddle of resin, I'm going to go work it out before I move on.
I'd like to put some mat up here. Let me see if I can find some real quick here.
This is much wider than what we need here, but it's already torn, so we're going to go with it.
Got to get that fuzz off my hands.
All right.
So, let's draw some of this resin out of here and wet this out.
Pull some of the resin here and then move it.
The reason I put this mat here was because a little bit of that 3610 was not quite covered by that last layer. I don't know if you noticed that or saw that, but a little bit of the edge was exposed.
And I like covering all the edges with matte for a couple reasons. This is a sacrificial layer. It's really just to soak up any excess resin that's in the reinforcement laminate.
Draw it to the surface here. I use it like a tool. You can tell by how wet this is how much excess resin there is.
But it also covers up all those strands.
And when you come back in here and you start grinding on it or you cut holes or whatever you do, those strands will tend to peel off if it doesn't have mat on it. And if this was painted and you drilled a hole here and there, little phrase sticking out and you pulled that, it would just it could peel an entire strip off of here. It looks absolutely horrible when it does it. So this little 3/4 oz that we put on top makes it nicer to finish. When I come in here and sand this before I put paint or whatever finish coating I put in here, epoxy, whatever I end up doing, um, I'll sand this. I won't get into the reinforcement. I'll be sanding on this 3/4 ounce mat and then the paint will bond to this.
Try not to get into the reinforcement.
So, acts like a barrier.
It's a great tool. I use 3/4 oz instead of ounce and a half. I've been saying that a lot lately because traditionally meet people will use one and a half ounce mat. That's all they really know.
They don't know anything else.
But I use 3/4 ounce because it consumes half the amount of resin.
It uses half the amount of resin as as 1 and 1/2 oz. It's half the thickness. Wets out very easily. It does the job. consumes half the amount of resin and it's half the weight.
So, in the big scheme of things, I think it's a better fit for what I'm doing.
So, oh, look at my roller got messy.
That's okay.
There's a little bit of exposed 1708 from the first layer down here. I wanted to cover cover that up.
All right, we're going to scoot over here on the other side, guys.
I'm going to have to move my light. Move your move my phone over there. The camera. We got that covered up. Let's let that soak.
I got to clean this roller off. Now, we got to get going on this other side cuz I got resin over here that's been kicked probably for I'm going to say 10 to 15 minutes. So, I'm going to have to move really really quick over here.
Still liquid. That's a good sign.
All right, guys. Let's get you moved.
Come with me.
Let's get you over here.
How's this?
How's that? Can you see?
Let me get some lighting.
Don't fall off.
H. You should be able to see everything.
You should be good. Let's get some lighting over here.
How is that?
Much better.
That should work.
Okay, let's get going again. What time are we on now? 43.
I'm a little bit nervous about how long this has been sitting, but I can tell you this. I'm going for it, guys.
I don't know how much time we got on this one. This batch.
This is the starboard side of the boat.
We do the exact same layup over here that we did earlier.
Try not to get too messy.
Try not to get too messy. By the way, guys, I have an entire channel with hundreds of videos. Maybe I think I don't know. I think I'm over 200. Well, they mix shorts and videos together, so I'm not sure how many videos I actually have. Longorn.
I think I'm up around 180 or maybe.
I'm not sure. I'll have to look.
But I do have a an entire channel. You guys can check it out. I've been doing these lives because I don't have a lot of time to edit and these don't require any editing.
Although the downside is if it goes south, things go wrong.
I could always delete it. I suppose this is 3/4 oz mat, guys.
This is where I start. 3/4 oz mat.
I like tearing. I don't like cutting with scissors.
We're missing a little bit of material in this little corner right here. So, we're going to put that there.
To be honest with you, we're missing a little bit right there, too. So, grab a little bit more.
I'll pre- tear this stuff over there.
And I have a a paper envelope over here that just holds a bunch of torn material for me.
masking paper. I just keep it uh on standby.
Torn strips are quite handy.
Got to get rid of this resin quick, guys.
So, if I shut up for a second, quit running my my mouth and work.
Let me get this so we don't get into trouble.
Again, this is vinylester resin catalyzed with full strength catalyst.
I think we're working with a I can't remember the exact name. I have it written down up here. I have a cheat sheet now so I can tell you guys exactly what it is.
I think it's called United Initiators, something 925.
That rings a bell.
You guys have any questions? This is a boat. Maybe you didn't see. Again, I have no idea how you guys get to work. I don't even know how you find this. I have no idea how you find this, but I'm glad you do and I'm glad you're hanging with me. If you have any questions, this is a boat build.
I'm documenting the entire build.
And uh if you look on the channel, it's I think it's in a playlist. You can go back and find all the previous lives.
Let's see here. We got to get our 1708 down here real quick. Like burn up this this bucket here.
If I can get my 1708 on here, I'll probably stop and roll my 1708 now, considering how long this little this little batch has been waiting.
Since it's probably this this cup here, probably 20 minutes since it was catalyzed.
We're really pushing the clock here.
I don't want it to kick on me. It'd be messy.
So, let's keep moving.
I've almost burned it up.
This paper that I got here. Move that right behind you.
Paper is a little bit sticky. I know you guys can't see what I'm doing over here, but I've got masking paper.
And I'm wetting out the back side of this 1708 here off on this masking paper before I put it on.
Yeah, this will kill. I do think this kicking, guys. We're going to have to move really quick.
I'm going to have to move fast.
I hope it don't kick on me.
So, worst case scenario, if this were to start to gel up on me before I get that 3610 on it, hopefully I can beat the clock here, guys. We're going to be pushing it.
Tell you what I'm going to do.
I'm going to go mix more resin because I need it. So, instead of wasting a bunch of time in here, fooling around with this, I'm going to dry out this roller on the next piece of 1708.
Get this as dry as I can get it now so I can keep using it.
That's what I mean by drying it out.
I'm going to get this soaking in.
We're going to go get fresh resin immediately and keep cruising. I'm going to move very quickly so that this this doesn't gel before I get 610 on it cuz I need it to hold the resin for me.
So, that's its job. All right. So, I got to hurry. I'll be right back. But you guys can hear me. Guess what? Cuz the mic combs with me. I can talk to you the whole time.
Isn't that great technology?
Not leave that big puddle. We're not going to leave big pu puddles. Not going to leave big air.
But we do need to get resin.
Let me get all this out.
Telling you guys, going live is it's no joke.
It's no joke, guys.
Serious stuff here.
Tell you what we're going to do.
I don't want to fall.
Let me get this in here real quick.
1708, guys. Mat side down.
Get that in there real quick.
1708.
Get it worked in here.
We're not getting in with our scissors.
We don't need to. What we need is resin.
We need resin now. Immediately. I'll be right back.
Stand by. We got this.
Don't fall off the ladder. Coming down the ladder.
I put my bucket on my scale. I'm weighing my bucket. Zeroing out my scale. My bucket weighs 3.4 oz.
I'm going to shoot for about another quarter resin here out of my pale of course.
So just trying to get a quart of resin out of here is going to be like a chore.
I have another pale sitting right here, but I hadn't mixed it yet. Haven't agitated it.
Or did I?
Let's grab a little bit more.
Agitating this other pale.
Just shaking it.
I show in my videos how to pour resin without it without even picking the bucket up. You just tilt the bucket over. You guys got to see that short if you haven't seen it.
I mean, that has to be my most helpful short of all time. How to pour resin out of a pale.
Didn't do very well.
Didn't perform well.
All right, we're going to go under 15 cc's here.
Just under 15.
Pretty warm today, guys.
Can't say for sure that that was jelling. It kind of felt thick.
I can't say for certain. I'll find out in a minute when I get back up there.
It felt a little thickened.
These gloves are absolutely garbage.
Gloves are all sticky and hairy.
I'm going to get back in there. Dive right back in. I got to get my other two pieces set up on. I got to get that 36 in quickly.
All right, we're mixed.
This is our third pale. We did 32, 32, and 36.
That's where we're at. I may have more than we need, but the worst thing would be is to have to come back and have to go mix more resin while this is kicking, hardening, jelling.
I'm going to get an excess amount of resin on here right now.
Still liquid.
I'm going to get I'm going to slop it, guys, because I need to get the 36 10 into it.
We're going to slop it on here.
Don't worry, it'll clean up. But let's get it in here. Get this nice and wet.
That 3610 will eat all this excess.
We got to get two more pieces of 1708 in here.
All right, let that set for a minute.
A little tense for a minute there.
Which one's this?
This is a short one.
Paper sticky.
Everything's sticky right now.
Just got to stay calm.
Literally everything is sticky right now.
Stay calm. Relax.
I got it.
Everything's sticky.
handles sticking.
I get in here. This is 1708 mat side.
Wrap right up here.
See how that folds around there?
It's all because of that nice radius, guys.
Putus.
That nice inch and a half radius pulled all the way around there makes everything so nice.
It's worth it.
It's certainly, you know, it's certainly a step, but it is worth it.
Get this 1708 again. Mat side down.
Get it in here.
No scissors.
I just manipulate it. See how that stretches? I don't have to cut it. I don't want to cut it.
I'd rather just stretch it.
Make it conform.
And it really, guys, it's the big radiuses that allows it.
tight little corners. It just wouldn't act like that.
You'd have to get in there and plead all the corners.
Nip and tuck.
All right, let's give this a little just a little touch here. We're going to go ahead and throw that 36 tent on like now.
Like now.
I'm going to get it.
Oo, look at that puddle of resin.
Got to monitor that. Said it's not that bad.
All right, good stuff. Let's grab this.
Good stuff. This again, 3610. This is 1 oz of mat stitched into 36 ounces of bioax.
36 ounces per square yard.
I do these pencil lines as my guides. So obviously you can see I've had this in here already fit. And then I'll run that carpenters's pencil up there. And look at that. It goes exactly where I wanted it. I have those guides to to show me.
I don't like using Sharpie markers because they bleed.
The ink bleeds all over it on your roller. It looks messy.
It just looks bad. It's It doesn't affect anything other than the appearance and it frustrates me. So, it makes me upset because it looks horrible.
And then that goes back to the guys that I worked with when I was younger and the story that I told about I'll tell you story real quick. I might as well since I just started these guys that I worked with a crew a very high-end yacht or sportfish boats.
South Florida. Well, South Florida, whatever. Florida, East Coast Florida.
very very high-end boats that they were building. And the owner of the company came in and he told them that they're building these custom boats and the owner of the boat can show up at any moment unex they're allowed to just come visit and see their build in any progress.
So the fiberglass had to look presentable at every stage of construction.
He said, "I want I want this to look in a manner that when the owner comes in, I don't care what stage of build we're at said, I want it to look presentable, that the owner would be proud to look at his boat.
And that's how those guys did their glass work. But I've never seen anyone do glass work clean and meticulous like these guys would do. They had strategies and stuff.
It was so foreign to me because I thought fiberglass was just messy and it can be can be really messy stuff. But it can be done nicely, too.
Takes more effort.
It's not easy.
Takes more practice.
You've got to practice at a higher level if you want results.
You expect results.
Okay. So, at this stage, guys, if that stuff starts to gel underneath, I think we're safe.
But I don't want to sit back and relax.
This really does need time for everything to soak in.
And now I have kind of no way to monitor.
I can reach over here and touch that side. I can monitor. I can go touch that side. If that side's gelled, then then this side, the first layer on this side will also be jelling.
So I can monitor it. I take that back.
Now we're going to get in here with a roller quick.
Jump on this like a herd of turtles.
Go.
Try not to get sloppy.
Try not to get too sloppy.
I'm going to grab my big roller and I'm going to hit that middle. See what we can knock out in the middle. It's kind of like when I'm grinding, too. You start with the biggest tool you can fit.
third biggest tool you can fit and then uh and then you back up from there.
We're going to work all this in. We're stealing the excess resin out of that 3/4 ounce. So, if it if it's still liquid, which I hope it is, it could be jelly.
Maybe we can beat the clock.
Work that in the um when that resin starts to gel underneath there.
If it is, if it does, and if it is, what it does is it makes it really hard to wet out this top layer cuz you no longer have that kind of cushion. The whole point of putting all that material in there is to build like an interface, a cushion.
So, if it is jelling, I lose my cushion.
And it certainly makes this harder to roll out.
especially if that stuff is jelling and it was uneven.
So, I can't say for for certain one way or the other unless I stop and go over there, start poking on the other side of the laminate over there, which I will do in a second. But this is more important.
Get all the air out of here we can get.
And this layup is drying up because it soaks it in.
So, let's get a little more resin on here.
Need a little bit more on top here.
It's not running out of it. It's working in the resin is working into the glass.
It's not running down the sides of the wall.
So, I'll feed it Got to feed the laminate, feed the glass.
It's hungry, thirsty, whatever you want to say, needs resin. You cannot roll dry fiberglass.
And dry fiberglass has no strength. You would be better off to have too much resin than to have too little.
You don't want too much resin, but you'd be better to have too much than to have not enough. I think we're in good shape.
I do want to stick my finger over here real quick. I'll tell you if it's gelled or not, so we know. So, we know it is jelling, guys. Yes, it is. So, now we know. Yes, that first layer is gelled.
So, what I'm going to do now, now that we know the first lay, we're going to work the air out of here a little bit more than I normally would.
Normally, I wouldn't stop and do this.
Time is of the essence here. First layer is jelling.
It's jelling on that part we got over or that panel we did over there. Because this first layer is jelling, it's more important to work the air out of here than it is to get the mat on here right now.
I get the mat on it and finish out these seams no problem.
That's not going to be a problem.
That was close, guys. That stuff uh that was 30 minutes. Maybe 30. Well, that's about right, though. 30 35 minutes. That means I'm not under catalyzing it, which is not under catalyzing. I don't want to to get the full physical properties of this material, this resin, which it has amazing physical properties. That's why we pay for it. That's why we're working with it. But to get it, you have to catalyze it enough so that it gels and hardens. So that it gels in give or take 35 minutes, 35, 40 minutes.
If it doesn't gel in that time, the material will never achieve its full potential.
When I say that, I'm speaking specifically about the resin, which is quite honestly, in my opinion, more important than the the fiber fiberglass material that we're working with.
And that's also reflected in the cost.
It is more expensive per pound.
It is uh much more expensive than the fibers.
We're in good shape right now.
We got it. We don't have any big air.
Looking good. There's excess resin here on the surface, but we're going to soak all that up here in a minute with that last layer of 3/4 ounce, which I'm going to throw right on here right now.
So, I cannot wait to get these gloves off, but we'll get it there.
Patience is a virtue.
Patience.
Let me get that soft roller in here where the soft roller really shines.
Getting down in these weird awkward corners.
And we're about to throw some 3/4 ounce on here.
Finish this side. Let me look at the clock. I wonder how far we are. How long we are. Let's look at the clock real quick here. Oo. Hour and 8 minutes, guys.
Wow. I wouldn't have guessed that.
Wouldn't have guessed. Time sure does fly.
Wouldn't have guessed that, but that's where we're at.
I think I had my resin mixed prior to starting the camera.
All right, let's get our mat on.
Where's the mat? It's right here.
Here we go.
Here we go. 3/4 oz mat over the 3610.
This isn't really cut or torn to size.
It's a little bit oversized here, but um this stuff's easy to easy to work with.
I'm going to run down this side like that.
I'll just set that over there.
Whoops. I don't really want to tear that all the way off.
Hell with it. Already did. I hell with it. We already did.
We'll put it back in.
Clean my hands off real quick.
Let that dry. Got my roller handle cleaned up over here. It was getting a little messy. I had to stop, pause, reflect. Had to clean it up a little bit.
Well, I take it back. I just trashed it trying to clean it again.
That rag is garbage.
That rag was filthy.
See, I keep these cut up rags over here that I'll dip in the acetone for me.
And uh that's how I clean my hands off.
Let me show you real quick. Got these cut up rags. I'll dip them in my acetone.
Try and clean up this again. Same pair of gloves we started with.
Same pair of gloves we started with. Oh, we got some resin all the way back here.
went all the way back there.
I got it.
This brush is brush is done.
I got it. My brush is kicked.
Whoops.
All right.
Get this finished.
Let's get it finished.
If you just joined us, we're building the boat. I feel like I repeat, but I have no idea who's watching right now.
It could be the same people that started watching an hour or 10 minutes ago, or it could be a whole new set of people. I don't know who's watching. So again, I'm building a boat here.
And um we're laying some fiberglass here, working with some vinylester.
Vinylester resin is an epoxy is a modified epoxy resin. That's what they like to call it. And it sure does sound cool when you say it, modified epoxy.
I' I've been working with Vinylester for many, many years. We build I build boats 100% out of vinyl where a lot of production companies will just use it to reverse a skin coat.
And I do it because it's stronger. It's lighter.
The boat will never ever blister.
You got that?
It's just a better quality resin.
I don't really care for working with epoxy.
I don't like the dry time of epoxy. It's too slow.
Um, and these also honestly I think vinyl just has better properties.
It's a harder resin. It has a better profile.
The problem with epoxy is uh, and I've experienced this personally and I've seen a lot of boats that this is a big problem back in the few years back. Boats would come down from the Carolinas and when they'd get to Florida and see 90 degree temperature for the first time, the epoxy resin would cure more and then it would get all distorted and have all kinds of imper surface imperfections and then blemishes and puckers and dings and and absolutely horrible. a brand new painted boat. It looked beautiful. Would cure a little bit more the next time I saw that higher um temperature.
Just weird stuff. Epoxy. It has a purpose, but I like to work with my luster.
All right, we got a little bit of glass.
We're in good shape, guys. We got a little pressure there. Got a little bit pressured. There's two layers of 3/4 oz.
Got a little bit of a little rush.
No biggie.
We got it.
Again, guys, check out the rest of the channel. There's all kinds of other videos on there. I do these lives because I don't have to edit them and I I just don't have much time to sit at the computer and edit. I wish I did. I tried using AI to help me. That didn't work out. I thought that was going to be the biggest fix for me. Like, oh, I'll just give my photos to AI and let them make a video. Check out that one. See how that came out.
That video is absolutely a flop. Uh, it wasn't intended to be good quality. I was just kind of mocking the uh the AI platform that I used for that.
Yeah, that was interesting.
Again, that was part of the fact that I didn't know how to work with that platform.
I'm learning this this this AI stuff.
It's interesting to me. I don't see how it's going to affect this business, this industry a whole lot, but has potential.
Not necessarily for this so much.
Not so good at making videos right now.
Oh, so real quick guys, if you're still paying attention here and you know that that layer that I just put down is now jelling. We know that. So, what you have to do now at this point is be careful not to uh press too hard and disturb it.
You've got to work a little bit more tender, a little more gingerly around it because it is setting up when resin is jelling. If you go and disturb it or press too hard on it, it'll literally just kind of crumble and you uh you you destroy it.
It has no strength. If you you crumble it, you can play with that stuff. Um you know, mix some up if you ever get a chance to see how it behaves when it starts to gel.
it'll it'll literally just crumble. So, it doesn't have any strength. You'll you'll ruin it. So, you got to be a little tender around here. It's all nice and flat now. So, I try really hard to mess it up.
And we got all the air out of this 3610.
So, there's really nothing else to do here other than tidy up.
Really starting to soak up some resin, draw resin out. I've got probably about h 6 eight ounces in my cup over there that I made too much.
Again, that's more than I like to throw away. But in the big scheme of things, if I stopped and I I didn't have enough to finish this layup right here, and then I had to jump out there, go mix another batch, and then come back to find out that this is kicked, that would be worse. worse much much worse than wasting that 8 ounces of resin that's over my cup right now. So, and I've had it happen to me where I just under underestimated how much I need. By the time I'm out there mixing and I come back, it's already gone off and hard and then I'm sitting there with mixed resin that I got to throw away anyway. So, it's like a double whammy.
You just got to, you know, cost of doing business. There is some waste in this. I try to keep that to a minimum. I try to have other stuff that I can lay up ready to go.
But right now, I don't have anything else to to throw glass on to burn up that 8 o. So, it is what it is. We certainly got our money out of this $2 roller.
Two good layups.
Got a little rush there at the end.
There's a light above my head here. Got to be careful. Got a little bit rushed there, but we weren't really rushed. I just took too long on the other side.
So, I ended up using about three quarts of resin total.
Real close to three quarts of resin total to do both sides. That's about where we landed if you were curious.
And with that, I appreciate you guys hanging with me. I sure do.
This was Renie's custom live layups number 10. I will continue to do this for your viewing pleasure.
I'm not quite sure what problem I solve, but I sure hope you guys enjoy it. Maybe if it was uh this is something you've always wanted to do, but you never got a chance to, you can just live vicariously through me and uh you can build a boat with me, guys.
throw your comments in this comment section below. I will read them and I will respond. You will have to come back and find this video and check my comments for your response, but you're more than welcome to leave comments and uh I'll get back to you guys.
I also, by the way, I have this cool MK calculator on my website and I'm developing a uh a new version of it that I'm so excited to launch for you guys.
that veresecustoms.com/mek.
There's a cool mek calculator on there and uh I've been using it for years, but I've just come up with a better version.
So, a very, very impressive version. Guys, that's it. I cannot wait to take these gloves off.
That's a relief. I still got to clean them.
Thanks guys for hanging with me.
Appreciate it. We will do it again. Next layup will be uh let me see layup number 11. Live layups number 11. Thanks again guys.
Appreciate you and we'll do it again customs. Over and out.
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