Why Thomas Massie's Defeat Should TERRIFY You

Added: 2026-05-22

[00:00:00]All right, let's jump over to Kentucky now. And honestly, all around the world, Trump was I think it was 20 and0 in all his endorsements in the primaries in different um states yesterday. So, he has pretty much swept the board. People are now rephrasing the entire conversation as people who are dissenting from MAGA. They might have a base online. They might have some YouTube and podcast views, but when you're in real life and you're actually talking to voters, they're still all on board on Trump. MAGA is still a movement. Trump winning against Massie as the biggest race kind of shows that's popular. Did you have a similar takeaway?

[00:00:32]>> I mean, it is it is pretty wild that he the whatever the CNN guy has been trying to tell us for a while that among mega Republicans, he has 100% support. So, the debate was always, and to be honest, I kind of laughed at that cuz I was like, well, how much of the base is actually mega Republicans? I would have guessed that it was substantively lower than it is, but if the Massie race is anything to go by, it's like 6040.

[00:01:00]>> So, it's not like some slim ass margin.

[00:01:03]Like, he won handily. So, if that is any indication, if the Republican party is a 60/40 split in Trump's favor, then he's still like we just saw going to be able to pull a lot of rabbits out of the hat.

[00:01:15]Though it is an interesting question that is eternally being asked which is how much do do the voices online represent the voices in reality.

[00:01:25]>> It is a very difficult to pin down question and we're seeing right now that there's a lot more juice for Trump than I would have thought.

[00:01:32]>> Yeah. It reminds me about the press conference that wasn't a press conference that he did earlier in this term where he was like, I'm gonna talk to everybody to the nation on Tuesday and I'm gonna do all these things and he basically was just reading out his tweets from the last two weeks and that kind of we talked about it. It solidified to me that okay, his base is they're not chronically online YouTubers. They are the older folks who are still watching traditional TV who go to bed at 7:00 who watch their stories, watch their news, and that's their day.

[00:01:58]So a lot of times having that TV commercial donation money and able to attack that older population on traditional media, you can definitely reshape the narrative a lot easier than you can on a podcast or something of a lot of these alternative medias. Let's pull up this tweet. This is from Hulk I enjoy enjoyer talking about the Massie race specifically. He said someone who has never someone you never heard of declined eight debates and this was your point. you can't you shouldn't be a politician if you decline debate and took 20 million in donations from I'll say Apac not Israel won a primary from an 8-year constituent were cooked. This is the underbelly of that conversation though. Is this just lobby's going to lobby and Massie pissed off the wrong lobby and they got him out of there.

[00:02:41]>> Yeah. This this is a naked display of money and politics. This is why you should hate everything about money and politics and why we need somebody to put forward a better way to do this. And then we need to pressure the life out of our Congress to actually pass something like that, which of course is going to be very difficult. But this this is wild and grotesque. And it I I beseech all the rich people out there that are throwing money around in politics, do you guys not get the moment that you live in? Do you not understand how the internet works? Like this stuff is going to be dissected and broadcast over and over and over and every day you lose one of the older people that you are counting on that don't have access or don't avail themselves of the velocity and volume of information and you are telling yourself a story that is completely nonsensical which is that you still have the power. You can do things as normal, but you are radicalizing generations of people, not just a generation. These people are going to be unforgiving as they amass more power, as they become a bigger part of the voting block. And so seeing people make such a stupid rookie mistake is just absolutely wild. You are playing such a short-term game that doesn't need to be played like this.

[00:03:56]Like if you want to be inspired by somebody who's just willing to take people on on the strength of the ideas and the actual like record of what the person has done, look at Spencer Pratt.

[00:04:06]So you've got somebody who just says, "Hey, this is what they did. This is what I plan to do." And if your guy Gal Reign can't win on this is what he did, this is what I'm going to do. Now we have something that is going to radicalize people. I promise you.

[00:04:18]Because the people who are online, whatever percentage of the base that is, it grows by the day because people are growing up in this environment now. This is just how they're going to get their information. And so they will always be a wash in an amount of information that the people that I think you're winning over if the numbers actually reveal what I think they reveal that you're swapping younger voters for older voters. And that constituency is going to die off.

[00:04:44]It is a bad trade. And if you need to look at anybody to see how fast things can change, you don't have to look any farther than Apac. Man, they went from like default like Judeo-Christian like we're in this together to being seen as the global villain.

[00:04:59]>> Yeah. Now you have to answer that question. Did you take Apac money before you can run?

[00:05:02]>> Yeah.

[00:05:02]>> But here's the demographic breakdown. So from 18 to 29 year olds, that's 10% of the voting block. Massie won 79%. 30 to 44 year olds about 23% of the voting block. Massie won 65%. But the older you get, the older it gets. One, the more people are voting in that generation.

[00:05:20]And two, the more people were voting against Massie. So from 45 to 64, 35% the largest base. It was still 53% Massie, but it was a 65 and older crowd, 33% of the vote that swept them 6535.

[00:05:35]And remember, this is a 8-year inc uh incumbent. So these people 65 plus, they have been around with Massie. They known Massie. hike. So, it's it's just crazy to see how stark these demographic pictures are coming after how much energy and online was about Massie over the last couple days. But to your point, lobby's going to lobby.

[00:05:53]>> Lobbies are going to lobby. People are going to pursue financial interests. And ultimately, we're all going to pay the price for this. People have to build a mental model of how the world works.

[00:06:02]People have to begin to connect the dots in a way that's grounded, that allows you to make different choices and get a different outcome. Don't build a world view that is hopeless. But we really do have to look at the way all of this is transpiring. We are in a position right now where basically the American economy is being strip mined. And by that I mean in fact let me be very specific about what I mean by that. They are leveraging deficit spending and money printing to take money from everybody but obviously it's going to disproportionately hurt the middle and working class. And they are able to create a funnel into assets.

[00:06:37]you're you're talking to somebody who benefits from this tremendously and I'm screaming as loud as I can to stop this for the love of God. And so when you're looking at somebody as a politician, whether we want them in power or not, just think obsessively about that. The guy we just booted out was the one motherucker wearing the pin that tracked the debt. Like this is so infuriating.

[00:07:00]So yeah, the great news is that we have a voice and so we don't have to be just online Dennison. We actually can make our voices heard, not in a psychotic way. Just make a better argument. Make a better argument. That ends up being, I think, the most important thing. Cause and effect. Why does making this change lead where we want? And so what I'm beseeching you all to do, the more you understand it, the more you'll be able to articulate it. And if you don't understand it, then all you're left with is the emotional side of it. Look, I'm preaching to the choir. I appreciate you guys being here. I am really grateful for all the people that tune in to the economic deep dives. I am really trying to paint a picture for for what is actually happening so that people can understand it. They can make better decisions. But it it is admittedly heartbreaking that of all the people to get booted, it's the guy that is most aware, which of course is why he got booted. I trust me, you don't have to point that out. I'm aware of the irony.

[00:07:55]We've got to pick that up collectively.

[00:07:56]We've got to carry that torch. Yeah.

[00:07:58]Otherwise, we really are cooked.

[00:08:00]>> And a lot of people are taking victory laps around Candace Owen, Jake Shields, Dave Smith, Tucker Carlson, including Megan McCain who tweeted out, "Shout out to Tucker Carlson who was 0 for five in candidate endorsements." So, a lot of people are saying Tucker Carlson and Thomas Massie lining with him, pulling talking about the Epstein files, alleging Trump being in those files.

[00:08:20]That was the beginning of his downfall.

[00:08:21]And >> well, so I mean there's an interesting story to be had there, which is I'm not sure what those guys are doing. When I look at them, I won't put Dave Smith in there. I think while Dave Smith and I come to different conclusions, Dave really does seem to be trying to track cause and effect the best he can. I think he's gotten too myopic on one topic. But when I look at those guys, they map better to, oh, this person's trying to get clicks. Then it's like, got it. Like you found white space. you know, you have to say something different. You have to say it in a way that like really hooks people. I get the temptation as somebody on the internet.

[00:08:58]Oh boy, do I understand it. But it is really bad long term. And especially like I often think, okay, what if I'm on the wrong side of this issue? Like I think about that a lot with AI. What if I'm on the wrong side of this issue?

[00:09:10]Because I really think and obviously I've been predicting this for a long time. I think it's going to get violent over AI and I will clearly be on the quote unquote wrong side of that. But because I actually believe that we've got to do it well, it's not going to not happen. I've made that case many, many times. So now, how do we do it well? I think that's where the focus needs to be. Every technological transition in history has led to more jobs, not less.

[00:09:34]So we should be with an eye towards that. But nonetheless, the temptation to ah let me just let me just go over here.

[00:09:41]You feel that pull. I think it's a mistake. And in the fullness of time, you're either going to be right or wrong. And if you can look yourself in the eye and be like, "Well, I really believed it. You've at least got something." But man, if you're just saying whatever you think you need to say to be popular in the moment, act.

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