Putin confident in victory, project Ukraine failed and Europe failed

Added: 2026-05-12

[00:00:00]All right, Alexander, let's talk about what is happening with uh project Ukraine. The ceasefire is over.

[00:00:07]>> Yeah.

[00:00:08]>> And uh and we had uh victory day.

[00:00:11]>> We got the events of victory day. We had uh Putin's big uh press conference.

[00:00:16]>> Uh Fitzo is is back in Slovakia and and he's questioning why the EU wants to um >> wants to phase out gas and oil.

[00:00:26]>> Why are they doing such such an idiotic thing?

[00:00:30]Uh we have Germany continuing to to talk about escalation. We have Pistorius, the defense minister in Kiev, making a surprise visit to Kiev to talk about military uh contracts. We have Ushakov talking about uh Ukraine having to leave Donetsk. He has now said that the requirement is that Ukraine leave uh Donbas, the military. A lot of uh different things going on. Uh where do you want to begin? Well, I I think the best place to begin actually is this firstly let's this conversation that Trump and Putin had on the 29th of April which basically kickstarted or set in train this whole sequence of events one after the other that we've seen um up to and including victory day because it's clear that the Ukrainians did have some kind of a plan to attack the uh celebrations on victory day or at least to try too. And uh uh uh uh the the the Russians um took that very very seriously. And um when we discussed this conversation between Putin and Trump before um we made the point that Putin passed on to Trump a very clear warning about Iran and told Trump under no circumstances resume the war about Iran.

[00:01:55]But we now know that it was also in other things too and that Putin also told Trump if there is a Ukrainian attack on the Victory Day parade then we are going to absolutely blow up destroy central Kiev and don't this start and think that we're not going to do that and um you this is this is a warning that we're going to implement and that we had a whole ramp up of messages. We discussed them in previous programs. We had the defense ministry. There were clear indications that they were going to use archnic missiles. We then had um uh further threats uh from the foreign ministry to attack Kiev. Zalinski of course responded and pushed back against all of these. He also warned the foreign dignitaries if you remember not to go.

[00:02:48]But what eventually happened is that the Americans for the first time since the start of the entire Ukraine crisis going all the way back in my opinion to the orange revolution of 2004 um took these warnings of the Russians seriously and basically told Zilinski back off. And um the the way they got round this was that Trump said to Putin, "Look, you've got a two-day ceasefire.

[00:03:23]Let's make it four. Uh you want to exchange a prisoner exchange with the Ukrainians, 500 men on each side. Let's make it a thousand. We can then claim that it's my Donald Trump's ceasefire and prisoner exchange plan." Putin went along with that. But the long and the short of it was that the Ukrainians were basically told by the Americans, you are not going to attack Moscow on Victory Day. And that's the end of that. So, it's the first time that's happened.

[00:04:00]Now, how important that is, whether it's going to change anything in the long term is an entirely different question.

[00:04:09]But we then had the followup which was Putin's press conference which he gave after the um victory day celebrations and a number of things came out. First of all he gave us this very detailed account of his interactions with Trump and the conversations he had with Trump.

[00:04:30]but that he made it, I think, absolutely crystal clear that for him personally, it's Europe that he now sees as the great enemy. And it was interesting that the Russians apparently did not even bother to contact the Europeans to pass on these warnings. They contacted the Americans. They contacted the Chinese and the Indians. They didn't speak to the Europeans at all. And Putin's comments about the Europeans over the course of this press conference were absolutely I mean they were extreme.

[00:05:08]They went further than anything I've ever seen him say about the Europeans.

[00:05:12]They said that the Europeans wanted to create this political crisis in Russia to disintegrate Russia in 2022.

[00:05:22]that Finland joined NATO so that it could join in the plundering of Russia that would then follow. Now all of that is things that we have already said. We said this many times but it it it did look to me and it was strange that Putin saw this all coming from Europe and seemed to blame the Americans less for this. I mean he was basically leaving the Americans off but saying that it was the Europeans who are the true enemy of Russia now and the Americans are lesser which I did find actually given the history given what Biden was up to given what Sullivan and Blinken were up to given what all the neocons in Washington were up to I did find that very strange.

[00:06:15]>> Why why is he putting all the blame on on Europe? Actually we've pointed this out Yeah.

[00:06:20]>> in many many videos. Yes, >> that uh that he's giving the United States a buy. He's letting the United States off. We've seen it in the negotiations. We've seen it with with Witoff, Kushner, all of all of uh all of their statements, the Russian official statements with regards to the negotiations taking place with the United States, how the US is is actually um taking Russia's interests into account and and the Europeans never do.

[00:06:46]um knowing that that the Europeans don't make a move without the United States.

[00:06:51]>> Yeah.

[00:06:52]>> I mean, when you talk about the uh the plundering of Russia, the uh the the bulcanization, the the regime change of Russia and then the dismemberment and the breaking apart of Russia and and plundering Russia. I mean, you go back to to to Gorbachov Yelten Clinton time, right?

[00:07:10]>> Yeah. when Clinton >> was in in Russia just, you know, plundering the place, right? The United States and the Europeans. But that's it reminds me of the Clinton eras of of the '9s. You didn't get to the point of dismemberment or anything like that, which is what Biden was was aiming for.

[00:07:27]>> And as we've pointed out in many videos, the Europeans were absolutely on board >> for that. And they thought that in three months with with sanctions, extreme heavy sanctions plus the the conflict in Ukraine, Boris Johnson ripping apart the the Estanul deal, then in three to to four months you would get the Putin regime change and then they would be back in Russia and not and this time they wouldn't mess it up. This time they would make sure that as they were plundering and pillaging, they were also breaking up, which is something they didn't do uh during Clinton's time.

[00:08:01]Right. Right. And and I've always gotten the sense that the Clinton faction, which which you can go back all the way to to u to all these people that that Biden has in his administration, right?

[00:08:12]These these are the same people effectively. U you can go back to the Nulins and then the FDU and the Sullivans of the Obama era and and the uh the coup in 2014. there was always this sense that that they missed their opportunity in the 90s and this time around under Biden they weren't going to to miss his opportunity. They were going to break up Russia. And so Putin's saying all of this. Um why do you think he he excludes the the United States? Is it because he's he's looking at it strategically because you know the the United States big superpower far away. Uh yes, they they're they're trying to to always mess around with us, but we have to have good relations with them or at least we have to have some sort of talking relationship with them even though they're always gunning for us. Does he look at it as as Europe uh just just losing their sovereignty, just being being a bunch of vassels and just telling them, look, you know, the United States is telling you to jump off a bridge. Why are you jumping off the bridge? Just cuz the US is telling you that that's that's weak. So, so you're the ones at fault at the end of the day.

[00:09:22]You know, the United States is going to do what the United States does. Why are you guys blindly following them when it's against your interest? I mean, what do you think of the reasoning is to all of this? What's the >> is there a strategy in in this approach?

[00:09:34]>> Because I think what Putin said just what Putin said is not something new.

[00:09:38]>> I mean, we've been reporting on this strategy >> of of the US and and Europe for about six months now.

[00:09:46]>> Three to six months.

[00:09:47]>> Yeah.

[00:09:48]I I think there's a lot in of what you say which is correct. I think there is an element of strategy here. I think Putin is looking at the situation. He sees that the relations between the Europeans and the Americans are going bad. He recognizes that the Americans have agency in a way that the Europeans don't. He thinks he says to himself, "America's far away. It's not there in Europe all the time. it remains a superpower.

[00:10:18]It is in the long term interests and not just interests but you could argue a need as well for Russia to have some kind of relationship. Um even if it's an adversarial relationship with the United States, but a relationship where the Americans and the Russians can talk with each other and that is important for Russia. But I'm going to say something else and this is very much what the feeling I got from the press conference which is that at some level he actually sincerely feels what he is saying that it is the Europeans who truly hate Russia and that it is they who have poisoned the atmosphere and have created this crisis that the origin of the crisis, in other words, is in Europe rather than in the United States with the neocons. Now, I have to say, if he thinks that, then I think he's completely wrong. I think that ultimately it is the neocons who actually are the drivers. But, um, as I said, listening to him, as I said, his anger and his bitterness towards Europe really comes out very clearly. and Ahiki when he talked for example about the failure of Istanbul he for the first time revealed that it was Mron who phoned him up and told him withdraw the troops from Kiev and then we'll get the deal but you can't expect the Ukrainians to sign this when you have the troops close to Kiev and Putin says we have it all on tape we recorded the call And then of course he did withdraw his troops from Kiev. And he mentions by the way that there was a whole big discussion recently about this in the Kremlin which can only mean and you know this is a point to also make that there was a contentious argument and that people in the Kremlin were reminding him of how he was fooled by Macron. So it's it's still obviously something that people are bringing up with Putin. But anyway, he then goes on to say after Macron tricked me like this, Johnson comes along and gets the Ukrainians to pull out of Istanbul altogether. And when you listen to him, it's quite clear to me that he thinks that Macron and um uh and Johnson had worked it all out in advance and that it was a sort of two-step thing and that um as I said, Mackro had the job of getting Putin to pull the troops out of Kiev and Johnson had the job of getting the Ukrainians to pull out in Istanbul. So he has this huge sense of anger and betrayal about the Europeans and as I said it is visceral and it is very powerful and it may be blinding him to the reality that a lot of what is actually going on in Europe actually has an American origin.

[00:13:41]Anyway, it was very strange, but I've never seen him talk about the Europeans quite this way. And you know he when he was asked who does he think um would be the right person for the Europeans to appoint to negotiate with him he said Gahad Schroeda which is in effect is his way of saying no one no one no one to negotiate with me because Gahad Schrod isn't going to be appointed to that position. So he doesn't trust anybody in Europe anymore. He still has some belief that with the Americans he can find at least in the longer term some way back.

[00:14:25]But with the Europeans, I mean, he's lost all faith and belief in them. I >> I wonder if it's not so much a US thing as it is a Trump thing. I wonder if if it was Biden >> Yeah. then he would he would be just as angry with with the US or at least the US would be lumped into this group.

[00:14:45]>> Yeah.

[00:14:45]>> Because effectively that's what it was.

[00:14:49]They were a group.

[00:14:50]>> They all liked each other. They all hung out with each other.

[00:14:53]>> Yeah.

[00:14:53]>> Uh Biden and Blinken and Barabbach and Callus Macaron, Boris Johnson, Stalmer, whoever was the prime minister of the UK at the time, Rishiak, whatever, right?

[00:15:04]They all got along. They all got along.

[00:15:06]they they all liked hanging out with each other. And while the US's position has not changed in that at the end of the day, >> this is ultimately when you go all the way to to to the back to to the origin of of everything, this is their proxy war.

[00:15:22]>> Yeah.

[00:15:22]>> And Trump hasn't effectively change that.

[00:15:25]>> No, >> it still is the US's proxy war to destroy Russia. But >> can you say that Putin at least sees Trump as Yes. he is he is fueling and funding this proxy war but the Europeans don't like him in that he's not part of the group.

[00:15:41]>> Well I I I think that is true. I think that's absolutely correct. I think there is an element that you know Putin uh feels that he has some ability to discuss things with Trump and I think the fact that they are able to argue with each other oddly enough is a bonding has a bonding result between them. But you know people who can argue can actually establish a relationship.

[00:16:05]>> He also tried to take them out.

[00:16:07]>> Well that's exactly you know I'm glad that you make that point because that is where this is also strange and that is where I suspect there is the difference between Putin and the rest of the Kremlin because if you look at people like Medved they don't trust the Americans. I mean they don't trust the Americans at all. Medve has made it absolutely clear that as far as he's concerned, Trump is as dangerous as an an enemy as anyone in Europe is. There's no difference between Trump and Biden.

[00:16:39]That that's Medved's thinking and I think that is widely shared in Moscow.

[00:16:47]Um, and of course there was Valdi and Valdi was clearly an attempt to assassinate Putin. And all of the obvious indications are that Trump was involved in it. And yet Putin still seems less angry with Trump than he is with the Europeans and with the EU globalists and with all that crowd of people. And um it is strange and it isn't something which I think is something that many people in Moscow in the Kremlin any any longer um agree with Putin about. But anyway, there it is. He there is no way back with Putin and the Europeans. Um he doesn't trust them. He doesn't he doesn't like them. He in fact uh they disgust him. He wants to have nothing further to do with them with the Americans. In the end, he still thinks that perhaps there's a way forward. But he did also say about the negotiations.

[00:17:52]The negotiations aren't going anywhere.

[00:17:55]The Ukrainians know what they have to do. They're not doing it. Ushakov said the same. Um, I'm going to suggest actually that Putin and the Russians no longer believe that the Ukrainians are ever going to make any kind of concessions. They're never going to withdraw from Donbass when Donbass is captured. They're not going to withdraw from Zaporio or Hassan region. They're never going to make peace. Um, when you actually read Putin's words, my sense is that he thinks that the negotiations with the Americans are also at a dead end. But he he seems to think that you can park Ukraine to one side and eventually over time if you maintain contacts with the Americans, something might come. Um, I can't imagine that many people in Moscow agree with him, but that still seems to be his lingering belief at the moment. By the way, you know, when you talk about proxy war, he did say that Ukraine was a proxy war, but not a proxy war between the US and Russia, but a proxy war between Europe and Russia.

[00:19:15]>> Interesting. Um, yeah, the the US has has never rolled back on sanctions. They haven't changed their position with >> Crea >> whether whether we're dealing with sanctions on Cuba or Iran >> or their position in in any type of dispute. They the US government >> doesn't matter which president >> they never change their position.

[00:19:37]>> So it would be strange if Putin were to think that >> that even if if you could park Ukraine to to the side >> Yeah.

[00:19:44]>> that the US would maybe change their their views of of their policy towards Russia and Ukraine. I don't think they ever will.

[00:19:50]>> No.

[00:19:50]>> Just like I don't think the Europeans ever ever will.

[00:19:53]>> No.

[00:19:53]>> Uh he he also um he also was misqued about the war ending. I don't know if you want to uh get into that as well because I think that's important because that's that's the quote that um that got the most news.

[00:20:06]>> Um everyone was everyone was talking about Putin says the war is ending and it's connected to everything that we're saying actually. yourself.

[00:20:12]>> Absolutely. And it's a very and it's important to say that that misquote came from TAS, Russia's official state news agency. I mean, um, we talk again about, you know, the information war and the Russians being dreadful at it. Well, here you have another example.

[00:20:31]>> Why didn't they correct it? Well, why did they I mean what happened was and I saw this that TAS had that it was up for a few hours and then somebody clearly decided this has to be taken down and it was taken down but they didn't go out and correct it and it was unbelievable that they a statement absolutely a statement that uh that um this is a misquin actually on statement or something like this >> but um you know this is so typical I have to say this of the Russians You don't go out, admit an error, give out a correction. You try and sweep it all under the carpet, pretend it hasn't happened. So the story just goes on circulating. I it it makes one well deeply frustrated and you know this isn't you know saying this you know out of sympathy for the Russians on this. they don't deserve any sympathy but because misleading information is put out there on the information space and it is going to lead to assumptions and decisions which are almost certainly wrong. Now that's that's that's the fourth >> and this is a big one >> and this is a very very big one. So what what Putin Putin again was talking about the Europeans. He was talking about the fact that the Europeans had this big project to use Ukraine as a tool to basically disintegrate, break up Russia.

[00:22:01]Now what he's talking about is project Ukraine. What we on the Duran long ago spoke about as project Ukraine. the project to use Ukraine to basically smash Russia, to dismantle Russia, to provoke a crisis in Russia, to take Russia all the way back to the 1990s and beyond if possible. Project Ukraine. And he said, "This failed. This has failed.

[00:22:33]Russia came through 2022.

[00:22:37]It survived. It's grown stronger."

[00:22:41]um project Ukraine has failed and he suggests his comments were about that and he was saying that gradually even in Europe and he meant the Europeans here even in Europe some people are beginning to understand that and that the momentum behind project Ukraine as a project is ending it is fading that's not the same as the ongoing conflict that is playing out in Ukraine.

[00:23:18]And on that issue, by the way, he actually said, "Look, the Americans come up with all sorts of proposals, but ultimately it's the Ukrainians and the Russians who have this who have to sort this all out between them. The Europeans are always going to be unhelpful because they remain well what they are. the Americans, they made an effort, but it hasn't led anywhere. So, he wasn't talking about an end of the conflict, not at all. But project Ukraine as a project to break up Russia, that is indeed ending. And that's an important distinction, and it's clearly set out in Putin's words.

[00:24:02]If you go to his words, you can see it clearly set out there.

[00:24:07]>> All right. So, uh, where do we go from here? Um, we had a big announcement from Putin as well about, uh, a big energy, uh, deal project that that's going to >> they're going to announce the details of it later, I imagine, >> between China and and Russia. I think we kind of know what it is, right? Power Siberia 2 and >> exactly >> and Power Siberia 3 and four and five.

[00:24:28]Who knows how many powers of Siberians we're going to get.

[00:24:31]>> But uh but the pipeline that moves through uh Mongolia gas that was meant >> to go to Europe.

[00:24:37]>> Yeah.

[00:24:38]>> Is not going to to be completely diverted to to China. Uh Fitzo talked about about this ending gas from Russia and uh and how this is idiotic because at the end of the day, Slovakia is going to end up buying Russian gas marked up.

[00:24:52]>> Yeah.

[00:24:52]>> From the United States. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:24:53]>> So once again, the United States >> will be selling Europe Russian gas, but at a higher price.

[00:24:59]>> And uh and then we have the statements from Ushakov talking about Ukraine's military having to get out of Donbas. So So where are we going from here? Do you think um do you think we're going to to get another uh offer from Putin after they wrap up Donbas still or do you think he's just going to just continue to move forward?

[00:25:19]>> Yes, I think he is. Now I again this is something I want to say about Putin and I've said this many times Putin is a lawyer and what lawyers like to do litigators like to do really good litigators like to do is they like to make proposals which are reasonable or appear reasonable offers to the other side that appear reasonable but which are always pitched at that level which the other side is going to reject.

[00:25:46]Lincoln, by the way, who was a lawyer, politician, used to do exactly the same with the South during the American Civil War. He made offer after offer after offer after offer, all of them very reasonable, all of them very upsetting to his radical base in the United States. None of them ultimately acceptable to the um to the South as Lincoln almost certainly knew. And Putin does the same. So he says, "Pull out of Donbass." They're not going to pull out of Donbass. Zilinski has said this any number of times.

[00:26:22]The Europeans back him on this. Donbass is going to fall at some point over the next couple of months. Don Bass is going to fall. At that point, Putin is going to say he's going to make an offer, but it'll be an offer like an ultimatum.

[00:26:39]Now we've taken Dombbath. Uh this is the moment for you to accept everything else. Give us Zaporian on retreat from there. Make all of those other proposals, all of those other agreements about the Orthodox Church, the rights of Russians, all of the rest of um Istanbul plus that we've talked about.

[00:27:01]The Ukrainians will refuse and the war will continue. So this is this is I think Putin's style. It infuriates people in uh you know more hardline people in Russia. It infuriates many people outside Russia. But I don't think this is ever going to change. But the war itself is going to continue. And as I said the the ultimate objective well one of them certainly is a desert.

[00:27:33]And we've now had clear indications about this and I'm sure that there'll be other places Khan of Nepal all sorts of other places perhaps Kiev itself too ultimately regime change but anyway the conflict one way or the other in Ukraine is going to go on. The most important thing, the most important takeaway for me from the events of the last weekend is that the relationship between Russia and Europe is ended forever.

[00:28:06]Even if there is an IFD government in Germany, even if that government comes along to Moscow and says to Putin, we want to settle, we want to restore links with you. We want a return of gas and oil. We want to do the kind of things that Fitzu is doing. Putin is so angry with the Europeans. It is inconceivable he will agree. And Putin, it is important to remember, is the moderate in the Kremlin. If he's not going to agree to act to that, no one in Russia is. The relationship, the long relationship between Russia and Europe extends back to Peter the Great is ended.

[00:29:00]>> Yeah. Yeah. But what does that mean for a country like Slovakia?

[00:29:05]>> Very difficult. I mean, they will they will do what they can, >> but they've been dragged along by the big countries, by the EU. The only way that they can perhaps find a way back with the Russians if it's important to them to is to pull out of the EU. And when I say Europe, I mean the EU is eur in Putin's mind, in the mind of the Russian leadership. The EU and um and Europe are now conflated. And whilst the present structures in Europe continue, there is no way back between the Russians and the Europeans. Whether there's any way back between the Russians and the Americans is a different matter, but I doubt it.

[00:29:53]I is Russia positioning themselves for conflict with Europe in 2030? Do you think they believe that that's happening or do you think that's just part of the they think this is part of the grift?

[00:30:03]>> I think they think it's part of the I certainly I think Putin thinks it's part of the grift. I mean when he talked about how um you know project Ukraine is fading. I mean, he clearly doesn't expect a war between the Europeans. He probably looks at the Europeans and says to himself, "These people aren't capable of waging a war against us." But um wars, conflicts can be waged at many different levels. We might not have a kinetic war in terms, you know, tank armies and missiles being launched and drones being launched and that kind of thing, but we are going to have a very icy piece. I mean, a piece much more icy even than the one that we saw during the cold war.

[00:30:55]>> Yeah. But they are launching drones or at least they're letting their airspace be used for for the drones to hit.

[00:31:01]>> Absolutely. And Putin was asked about that and he said, you know, they'll have a there will be a cost for the Europeans to pay over it. He didn't explain what it was. But um but um as I said, I don't think he I mean, by the way, I mean, you know, we must be careful not to assume that he talks for everybody in Moscow or in the Kremlin. I mean, Medved is talking a much harsher language. And I'm starting to think, by the way, that Medved is positioning himself eventually for a presidential run when Putin steps aside. I mean, he his rhetoric is such that it's one of its purposes seems to be to keep Medved to give Medvade a high profile. Just saying. But uh um um put that aside.

[00:31:52]Putin himself, I think, does not believe that there is going to be a war. But that doesn't change the fact that I his anger with the Europeans is now so strong. His mistrust of them is so great. I I I think hatred hatred of the European leadership of today is the word hatred is not too strong to defi to define his feelings. I mean his bitterness and anger is that great.

[00:32:23]How does this affect the the continued sales of of energy to Europe, at least until 2027, which is when Europe says they're going to cut off energy from Russia?

[00:32:32]>> I think that I think it's ending. I mean, I think that yes, he likes FITSO.

[00:32:38]He will continue to supply gas and oil to the extent that he can to FITO. But um he saw what happened to Wuban. I don't he trusts Mua an inch. I think that's all coming to an end >> on Russia's initiative. On the EU's initiative >> on R Well, I mean, the EU kind of the EU announced it first.

[00:33:01]>> Yeah.

[00:33:02]>> But but it's the Russians who are going to do it. I mean, there's going to be these enormous energy deals with China and that is the long-term relationship.

[00:33:10]The Russians have said also to Japan, look, if you want to buy us buy oil from us, by all means, go ahead. We all you need to do is to do away with the oil price gap and we will sell it to you.

[00:33:24]Right.

[00:33:26]Okay. Uh it looks like um Putin is is is reverting more to his his old self I guess.

[00:33:35]I mean I I was watching the speech and his mannerisms. He looked like the Putin of say >> the Biden era I guess you could say pre pre-Trump where he was more assertive, more aggressive.

[00:33:47]>> Yes.

[00:33:47]>> Then Trump came along and it looks like he kind of got into this just my opinion kind of got into a little bit of a >> of a lull a rut and and now he's kind of emerging from that.

[00:33:57]>> Exactly.

[00:33:57]>> I don't know. That's I'm just >> Absolutely.

[00:34:00]>> The way I saw him, his body language, the way he was speaking.

[00:34:03]>> Yes. Was confident. He was in charge.

[00:34:05]>> Seems like he found his rhythm.

[00:34:07]>> He found his rhythm. I I I think also at a psychological level, I mean it's not a huge thing, but well, maybe it is a big thing, but at a psychological level, the fact that uh he and the Russians gave the Americans an ultimatum over the Red Square parade and the Americans accepted it and forced the Ukrainians to stand down. I think that's probably, you know, given him, you given him a a sense that he can actually he can actually push back against the Americans that if he does, if he pushes back strongly enough, they will listen. And from this point going forward, we might start to see him becoming more assertive with them than he's been up to now. Um, he he also pushed back hard on the Tomahawk missiles, by the way, but I don't think the Americans ever really plan to supply uh Ukraine with Tomahawk missiles. This time, um, after Valdi, he's come back. He's told the Americans, "Look, get your proxy under control. the Americans did get their proxy under control and I think that affected his mood over over the last couple of days and perhaps going forward.

[00:35:33]>> Well, when he what he tells the United States to to get their proxy under control, I mean, effectively what he's telling the United States is you guys don't don't attack us. I mean, don't green light don't greenlight >> correct >> the attack, >> correct >> into Russia, which is basically what was going to happen. I don't know if they were going to hit Moscow or if they were going to to hit other areas of Russia, >> but no doubt they were planning something on May 9th.

[00:35:55]>> No question.

[00:35:56]>> And and so Putin doesn't address Ukraine. He doesn't even bother with Europe. He goes straight to the source.

[00:36:01]>> Yeah.

[00:36:01]>> And he tells the source uh the Trump administration. Call off your attack.

[00:36:06]>> Yes. And they did.

[00:36:08]>> And they did be because just to end the video, they Russia seems to have pitched it. the the the retaliation seemed to have been calibrated just right so that the Trump White House finally got the message and said, "Crap, even if we even if we go forward with the with with the attack on May 9th and and say Russia does retaliate, we're we're going to we're going to be in big trouble because they're going to we're talking about the center of K.

[00:36:40]We're talking about diplomats. We're talking at a time with Iran and we have everything going on there. We're talking about Argnix. I mean, this probably probably freaked out the the Trump administration. It definitely gave them pause and they said, "Yeah, okay, let's not even tempt uh Russia on this one."

[00:36:56]>> I I I I think freak out is perhaps not too strong a word. I think the Americans were alarmed. Actually, I I I think this I think this was one Russian warning that finally cut through.

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