Conspiracy Theorist Dad Accuses Trump of Being A Spy Then Runs

Added: 2026-05-29

[00:00:01]Bro, what's good?

[00:00:02]Hey there. What do you think about Trump?

[00:00:05]I don't like him. Why not? He hates the Jews. Why don't you like him?

[00:00:09]He does everything for Jews and Mexicans and whites. Oh, really? Uh what does he do for the Jews?

[00:00:16]We're in Iran right now. We're [ __ ] around with Iran. Did we go to war uh in Iran because of Jews or did we do it because the Iranian intelligence apparatus sent an asset to kill the president?

[00:00:26]Huh?

[00:00:27]Who blew that? Well, we literally have him convicted and he admitted to doing it. On top of that, they also killed three soldiers at Tower 22 in Jordan, injured 40. They murdered our soldiers in Syria and Iraq. Uh they killed 40 Americans in October 7th. Like yeah, that [ __ ] doesn't slide with me.

[00:00:41]>> I think I think when they uh when they do stuff like that we we take their supreme leader and we put him to the wall so he can slide.

[00:00:47]>> 9/11.

[00:00:48]What?

[00:00:48]>> the bad guy in 9/11? Do you remember?

[00:00:50]Al-Qaeda.

[00:00:52]No, the other guy.

[00:00:53]Bin Laden? Bin Laden.

[00:00:56]He's the leader of Al-Qaeda.

[00:00:58]So we're going to [ __ ] with that rag and if he is or the Jews greatest enemies in the region. That really makes a lot of sense.

[00:01:04]Okay.

[00:01:06]Hey there. What do you think about Trump?

[00:01:09]Man, [ __ ] Trump. Why do you say that?

[00:01:12]Cuz he's a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] lying scumbag. Why is Why is he a lying piece of [ __ ] scumbag?

[00:01:19]Bro, you know why. Look at those gas prices.

[00:01:22]Well, that I mean that's a result of a war. Iran sent uh intelligence assets to go kill our president. Still that was not his but still he said gas was going to be cheaper cheaper when he was going to be president, right?

[00:01:34]Uh well, gas is going to get cheaper.

[00:01:37]Oh, no it's not. Not eventually, not right now. Well, very soon. See, all of that oil uh the oil oil price went up because the Straits of Hormuz were closed. They're reopening now. So all of that oil has just been sitting there. It's going to reenter the market.

[00:01:51]>> you know what's happening you know, right? Everybody's a Jew. Trump's a Jew.

[00:01:54]Everyone is a Jew. That's just That's just [ __ ] Everyone there is a Jew.

[00:02:00]Well, Trump's not a Jew, but what's wrong with being Jewish? What's wrong with being Jewish? Oh, Jews, no, bro. I would have go See, that's why Hitler was right.

[00:02:10]Oh, Hitler was right? What was Hitler right about?

[00:02:13]Everything Everything he said, bro. Can you tell me one thing other than hating Jews that Hitler believed in?

[00:02:21]They're scumbags. That's what they are.

[00:02:23]>> Can you tell me one thing other than hating Jews that Hitler believed in?

[00:02:27]What you mean?

[00:02:28]Um can you tell me one thing that Hitler believed in? You said he was right about everything. Can you tell me one thing he There we go. Cuz Cuz that guy, Hitler would kill that guy.

[00:02:37]>> What they do in Canada? Hi there. I have a question for you.

[00:02:40]Yeah. What do you think about Trump?

[00:02:44]Um >> [music] >> I don't really like him. Why not?

[00:02:49]It's mainly his personality and his personal character. I think that he does good on some things, but it's just I don't I'm not like a die-hard supporter.

[00:02:59]Okay. What about his personality makes you not like him?

[00:03:03]It's his comments that he's made towards like his daughter specifically. I don't know.

[00:03:09]That's what really makes it kind of weird. And also like the posts that he does online, it's kind of weird, too.

[00:03:15]Okay. Like what uh What did he say about his daughter that made you think he was weird?

[00:03:19]Like him talking about how he would date his daughter. Well, he didn't say he would date his daughter. He said he would perhaps I'd be dating her if she wasn't my daughter. Um so, he's just saying his daughter is beautiful and that he's instilled good qualities in her. I think that your probably your father probably also thinks you are beautiful. And I think that your father probably thinks you're a good person and smart. And these are all the qualities that a man looks for in a woman when uh when he's trying to date her. But your father would obviously never date you because he's your father in the same way that Trump would never date his daughter. And that's exactly what he said.

[00:03:48]Okay. I understand that, but that's just like a weird comment.

[00:03:52]So, I just kind of dislike [music] that, but Okay. I mean, I would I I I think maybe you could say it's weird, but like I don't think that it implies [music] anything about him, really. He's just saying that I have a great daughter. Perhaps he could have worded it better, but Okay.

[00:04:12]Anything else you don't like about him?

[00:04:15]His posts online, I feel like he should have a filter at his age.

[00:04:22]Well, actually, most old people don't have filters. It's kind of how it goes.

[00:04:25]But, what what posts don't you like?

[00:04:28]It was the Jesus post, [music] but I mean >> I agree with you. I don't like that one, either.

[00:04:33]Yeah.

[00:04:35]But, I still support him.

[00:04:37]Okay.

[00:04:38]That's fine. Okay.

[00:04:40]All right. Have a good day.

[00:04:43]Hi there. I have a question for you.

[00:04:45]What?

[00:04:46]What do you think about Trump?

[00:04:48]I hate the guy. Why do you hate him?

[00:04:50]I'd like to hear other people's perspectives.

[00:04:53]Cuz he's a pedophile, and he's disgusting.

[00:04:59]Okay. What makes you think he's a pedophile?

[00:05:01]Cuz he is.

[00:05:04]Classic. Cuz he is.

[00:05:06]Hi there. Question for you.

[00:05:09]What do you think about Trump?

[00:05:11]I hate him. Why?

[00:05:14]Cuz he's a dick.

[00:05:16]How's he a dick?

[00:05:18]Oh, you would just want to like debate random people on the internet. No, I like to hear other people's perspectives.

[00:05:24]Oh, really? Mhm.

[00:05:25]What's your world map behind you? Uh it's just a like little uh what do you call it? No, you call it like kind of like >> vote for? Who did you vote for? Who did I vote for? I actually didn't vote in the last election.

[00:05:36]Oh, good. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like Trump because he's trying to erase my entire existence. How's he doing that?

[00:05:44]Can you tell me how?

[00:05:44]>> Um by legislating anti-trans bills. Like which bill?

[00:05:49]Um all of the ones that are uh like in Kansas for example.

[00:05:56]Did Trump >> They're making >> legislate those or did the Kansan government legislate those?

[00:06:02]It was the Kansan government, but they're all MAGA. So what does that have to do with Trump?

[00:06:06]>> Like if you think that Trump is the only thing that's behind this, it's not. It's like an entire [ __ ] >> we're talking we're talking about Trump.

[00:06:13]So what anti-trans bill has Trump passed that's not like good or bad?

[00:06:17]>> pass a bill. He's a [ __ ] president.

[00:06:19]>> He can sign a bill and he can push for a bill. So which one? You you're the one who said that he had actually put anti-trans bills in place. It's not me.

[00:06:25]>> No. You said passed and now you're clarifying which you were saying.

[00:06:29]>> which anti anti-trans bills are he is he responsible for?

[00:06:33]>> Nazi. How am I a Nazi? What is a Nazi?

[00:06:36]>> Oh here we go. Now he gets defensive.

[00:06:38]Nazi.

[00:06:39]How?

[00:06:40]Okay.

[00:06:42]That's crazy.

[00:06:44]Like bro are we kidding?

[00:06:46]Hi there. I have a question for you guys.

[00:06:48]What's up? What do you guys think about Donald Trump?

[00:06:53]I don't like any president or government.

[00:06:55]>> Yeah, I don't like him either. And look at the [music] gas prices. Like oh my god. Okay. Why don't you guys like him?

[00:07:00]That's not the big deal. Cuz he feels that they're all eating kids.

[00:07:04]>> Yeah, he's eating kids. Okay. What's the evidence that he's eating kids?

[00:07:08]Um the Epstein files. Which file proves that he ate [music] kids?

[00:07:12]Um search it up honey, it'll show you.

[00:07:14]Oh you're the one who said it not me. So like that was >> Well we're not liberals. No, I'm not saying I'm not saying you're liberals.

[00:07:20]>> I mean we voted Trump. I'm just saying I don't think there's any evidence that he ate children. Well he did.

[00:07:25]>> You probably want to rape and eat children too if you think that.

[00:07:28]>> Yeah. Okay. So what's the evidence that he What's the evidence that he ate that he raped and ate children?

[00:07:33]>> Well you don't need evidence. It's the [ __ ] >> What do you mean you don't need evidence? Of course you need evidence to prove that somebody raped and ate children.

[00:07:40]>> you're [ __ ] >> Wait, hold up. Trump isn't the government. Trump is a private citizen.

[00:07:44]>> Okay, I don't care about Trump. I don't care So you're saying that he as a private citizen >> about him so much and none of this >> You're saying that he as a private citizen raped and ate children, which is just about the worst thing you could possibly do. So I would expect that if you accuse somebody of that, you have some level of evidence.

[00:08:01]Of course they skip.

[00:08:02]Exactly.

[00:08:03]Hi there. That's why you don't engage Listen, that's why you don't talk to [ __ ] suckers cuz I was just speaking to this [ __ ] [ __ ] sucker who was just saying like, "Oh, you're gay." I'm like, "Nah, you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] sucker."

[00:08:11]Okay.

[00:08:12]>> got all mad. [ __ ] skipped me. What do you think about Israel, man?

[00:08:16]I think they're a bunch of [ __ ] suckers.

[00:08:17]Okay. Why do you think that?

[00:08:19]Hm? Why do you think that?

[00:08:22]Why do I think that? Uh personally, I don't believe we should be funding their war. If they want to go off and kill people, that's fine. Uh dealing with terrorists is one thing. Killing innocent civilians is another, okay? So that's my opinion. Okay. Um so can you name me one war in human history that hasn't resulted in civilian deaths?

[00:08:42]Uh not really many, but if anything more or less there's a targeted malice here.

[00:08:46]Okay. Can you prove targeted malice against civilians?

[00:08:49]Yes.

[00:08:50]>> Okay. Do it.

[00:08:52]What do you mean? Like you want me to bring up news articles? Whatever you've got. You You said you could prove it. So whatever you've got that would prove it.

[00:09:00]My question is can you disprove it? Um well, I can't prove a negative. So you're the one who brought it up and said that it's happening. I can't prove that it's not happening. That's literally impossible.

[00:09:09]>> on Israel. I told [music] you my opinion on Israel.

[00:09:11]>> Yeah, you said that they're You said that they're killing civilians with targeted malice and that you can prove it. Um so why are you deflecting to me proving it didn't happen, which is impossible, when you already said that you can prove it?

[00:09:23]Well, I mean, if you want to deny publicly known information, that's fine to me, but that's just the >> the publicly known information? Maybe I'm just stupid and haven't seen it.

[00:09:30]Show it to me.

[00:09:31]I think that you're ignorant of it personally. I don't think you know that.

[00:09:34]>> if I'm if If ignorant If I'm ignorant to it, then show me the light. Show me the light.

[00:09:39]>> that it's negative that you don't know it. You probably disagree with the podcast.

[00:09:43]>> If I haven't seen it, I want to know it.

[00:09:45]So, could you please show me the light?

[00:09:47]>> you of anything. I'm just saying you probably haven't [ __ ] heard it.

[00:09:51]>> Okay, so can you show it to me then?

[00:09:53]Make me hear it. Show it to you? I'm not actively going to show you this [ __ ] You can go out and look [music] for it if you want.

[00:09:58]>> Because you don't have it. That's not true.

[00:10:00]>> Look, okay. Let me start first by saying you asked me my opinion. [music] >> Cuz you have Israel tagged on your profile. I have had this opinion of Israel. I tell you why I have my opinion of Israel. There's publicly known stuff.

[00:10:07]I don't have to provide you nothing. You asked me. You started this whole conversation about Israel. I have had this opinion of Israel. I tell you why I have my opinion of Israel. There's publicly known stuff. I don't have to provide you nothing. You asked me. You started this whole conversation about >> You said you could prove it. So, I'm just asking if you would be so kind as to do that so that I can be more educated.

[00:10:19]I'm not going to get off this Omegle thing having like a bad connection. I'll send you something. At that point, I might No.

[00:10:24]>> Do you have a phone?

[00:10:26]This is I'm on my phone right now.

[00:10:28]>> You don't have a computer?

[00:10:30]I'm not using my computer because it's [ __ ] slow.

[00:10:33]>> Man, that's crazy. That's crazy. Broke, stupid, and a bad mustache. So, you're [ __ ] Is that what you're telling me? Hey, man. That's going to be for the jury to decide. I need you ignorant. So, that's besides the point. So, I don't want to hear about this. I mean Well, it sounds like you might be the ignorant woman. Ignorant woman. You might be the ignorant one because you can't provide me proof.

[00:10:55]>> It's just like a rage bait thing.

[00:10:56]>> No, it's not a rage bait thing. I'm just asking you to prove to me what [clears throat] you said.

[00:10:59]>> rage bait to me. I don't know about you.

[00:11:00]It seems like rage bait to me. I'm not rage baiting at all. I'm playing Minecraft and I just asked you for evidence of what I said. It's kind of like a tweet bait. This is rage bait.

[00:11:07]You're trying to rage bait. I asked you for evidence of what you said. That's all.

[00:11:10]If that enrages you, if it enrages you for me to ask you for evidence of what you said, then um that's like a you problem. No, I mean, you're trying to you're trying to you're trying to trying to rage bait me, but it's not working.

[00:11:22]I'm not trying to rage bait you. I want to have a conversation with you.

[00:11:25]Now, you're denying it. So, Okay.

[00:11:29]I just want to have a conversation with you. So, I asked you to prove what you said. If that enrages you, then that's a mental problem you have to work through.

[00:11:34]I'm not enraged, bro. I'm fine. I don't know why you're bringing up mental problems.

[00:11:37]>> Then why would you assume it's rage bait if you're not enraged?

[00:11:40]I'm not rage baiting. I'm just asking questions.

[00:11:42]>> at Okay, firstly, number one, your tone and ideology, what you're coming at me as, you're coming at me in a tone of a very accusatory manner. So, basically, you're trying to build some sort of reaction of me getting mad.

[00:11:53]>> I just asked you for evidence. I actually don't want you mad. It makes bad content. I want a conversation.

[00:11:58]>> I can't make I can't make I can't prove what you said. I can't give you this information and start linking it to you cuz it's all my I'm on my phone. So, then you call me broke. So, I'm like Well, it sounds like you are broke.

[00:12:08]>> you have like Hello. Hi there. What do you think about Trump?

[00:12:13]Um I like him for the most part, but can I ask you something? Cuz Is it related to that?

[00:12:19]It's It has has to do with Israel and just um your views on Israel. I just I've um cuz I I I've watched your stuff about uh when you questioned the guy about the USS Liberty and uh >> Okay. all that kind of stuff.

[00:12:31]My main thing is how like I I get that yes, they are our ally, but when you call them like our greatest ally and all of that >> I've never said that, to be clear. I've said that they're one of our greatest ally. I've never said that they are our I don't think it's useful to like try to tit for tat if they're better than our other allies. They are a great ally. Do you like acknowledge though like the um what is it? The um Come on. Cuz I I spoke to you last time and I didn't have my info.

[00:12:59]So, I just got to pull this up cuz I saved everything.

[00:13:02]The Apollo affairs, do you know anything about that? The Apollo affairs? Like when we went to the moon?

[00:13:08]Uh no. Uh it it happened in Pennsylvania uh when it is highly believed that uh when a bunch of nuclear material went missing that Israel was the one that stole it.

[00:13:18]>> Was it proven?

[00:13:19]Is there evidence? Um Uh uh yeah, hold on. Let me >> It's not proven. There's no There's no There's no uh adjudication. There's no proof that Israel stole a bomb.

[00:13:30]Well, it's like yeah, it's like declassified government documents. Like yeah, like it wasn't actually >> there's no there's no there's no it was never determined that Israel did this.

[00:13:39]There's no conclusion that Israel did this. And either way, what year is this?

[00:13:43]This is in the 60s. Okay. So, is is Israel Let's assume that what you're saying is true for a second that Israel stole a bomb, which they didn't. I'll just assume that's true.

[00:13:51]Is Is >> think they stole a bomb.

[00:13:53]Okay, they stole nuclear material, whatever. Let's assume what you're saying is true.

[00:13:57]Is Israel of 1960 the same Israel of today? Is it the same government?

[00:14:04]No. Okay. So, what is that How's that applying to Israel as an ally to Israel today? Because think about this. Um before that uh Israel >> still acknowledge Well, hold on. Before that, Japan literally bombed our harbor and killed thousands of people. And today, they're one of our best allies.

[00:14:22]Yeah, but you acknowledge that. I acknowledge what?

[00:14:26]That Japan did this. Like like the we we like we acknowledge that. Sure, they acknowledge that they did it. Well, these government documents, like they're just that's just speculation. Even though No, it is because you can't prove that it happened. So, if you can prove that it happened, I'd be open to it, but you can't prove that it happened. You're speculating. I mean, like do you want me to send you the articles that I'm reading >> them. I already read them the last time we talked.

[00:14:48]I I I didn't have them last time we talked.

[00:14:50]>> Yeah, I found them for you.

[00:14:53]You didn't even know what I was referencing when I mentioned >> Yeah, that's why I looked it up. That's why I looked it up after we spoke. When I said Apollo affairs, you said I was talking about space and you said that >> You said that Israel stole Yeah, because I didn't I didn't know it by name. But you said that Israel stole nukes, so I looked into this afterwards. I didn't know what the conspiracy name for it was, but I looked into it after the last time we talked. There's no evidence it happened.

[00:15:15]Okay. Like that's just like not true.

[00:15:17]Like what you're saying. Okay, so prove that it happened then.

[00:15:21]All right, like do you want me to send you the article? Like what do you like I want I want you to make a I want you to to articulate cohesively why you think this thing happened and prove it.

[00:15:33]I mean when I'm led to believe that there's declassified government documents where they're speaking about this stuff when they're investigating it.

[00:15:40]>> a potential Okay, so they investigate it, they speak about a possibility, but they never come to the conclusion that it happened. So what you're doing is speculating.

[00:15:50]Yes. Right.

[00:15:52]>> Okay, so you're not Okay, so we can just throw that out the window as a point against Israel now because we cannot prove that it happened. Evidence or saying that there's a lack of evidence is not evidence that something happened.

[00:16:02]So we can just move away from that and come up with your next point against Israel. Go ahead.

[00:16:09]No, like that So we're just not even going to acknowledge any of that that happened or >> because we're No, cuz it didn't happen.

[00:16:15]There's no evidence that it happened.

[00:16:18]That nuclear material went missing?

[00:16:19]>> You just Okay, wait, hold up. Hold up.

[00:16:22]Nuclear material going missing doesn't then logically follow that Israel stole it. You're going to need evidence to support the idea that Israel actually stole it, of which you have acknowledged that you cannot cohesively articulate.

[00:16:35]And you also acknowledged that you're just speculating about. So we can throw it out the window because you're unable to prove it and move on to the next [ __ ] thing you're going to argue against Israel for.

[00:16:46]Well, my main thing is this topic and I'm trying to find >> you have a pretty rough argument and you should probably go back to the drawing board.

[00:16:53]>> no, no, well you're telling me I need to find like evidence, so I'm trying to find exactly what I was reading so I could like say it verbatim. So I'm not All right, well find it. Find the evidence. Find where we came to the conclusion that Israel stole our nukes cuz it didn't happen.

[00:17:07]I'm not saying we came to a concrete evidence, but like >> no concrete evidence. That's what you're saying. There's not concrete evidence.

[00:17:14]Sorry, I misspoke. We didn't come to a concrete conclusion is what I meant to say. I I apologize. I misspoke. Okay.

[00:17:21]So, is there any evidence to support this?

[00:17:25]Uh yes. Hold on. One >> it.

[00:17:28]I apologize, guys. Here you go.

[00:17:37]You want me to Can I send links through here? I don't know if I can send links. Um you can send links through here.

[00:17:43]If you just If you just read it.

[00:17:46]Um just just read it to me.

[00:17:47]>> me I can pull it up. I did screen Yeah, if you can pull it up on the screen, that's fine, too. Cuz I just can't click away from the Omegle or it will not show you anymore.

[00:17:58]And I'm also pulling up the screen.

[00:17:59]>> the thing.

[00:18:00]I agree with most of the things you say and I I like your stuff for the most part, but I Um but I did like your conversation [music] with the the man you had with the US Liberty.

[00:18:11]>> Yeah. What did you think of that?

[00:18:14]Um I mean, dude, like Well, that's where it's the whole thing of taking like a someone's eyewitness account, how much do you believe that in the whole thing like with the thing court and law and how you actually Can you actually believe a person and just all of those >> the fact that it's been I mean, Phil is an old person and it's been 59 years since that happened. That That's exactly what Yeah, that's part of the whole eyewitness thing and yeah, [music] just how long it's been. Um So, my I mean, my conclusion walking away from that was that Phil Turney is full [ __ ] Okay, so we got a Google AI overview.

[00:18:49]Sorry. No, that's the wrong window.

[00:18:50]Sorry. I have I have a different window.

[00:18:55]Five different operating [ __ ] things open. Here we go.

[00:19:03]Uh So, um I don't know. The National Security Archive, I don't know how Do we believe it is a Sure, that's fine. A trustworthy source.

[00:19:15]Yeah, it also depends on who wrote the document. Well, the things in the archive are real, but like we have to see who wrote this document, whatever [music] it is. Like is this an article or a document?

[00:19:26]This is an article but I written by somebody who works at like the in the National Security Apparatus. It's fine. Okay, what does it say?

[00:19:33]Yeah.

[00:19:34]Uh hold on. Cuz I I I was reading this a couple weeks ago so I just forget. Uh So we lost more than 300 kg of uranium, uh which is more than enough bombs to make like a a few Hiroshimas. I guess those were small [music] in comparison, but still just to put it into reference.

[00:19:54]Um concluded 1966 was about 200 kg.

[00:20:00]Um and Sorry, I don't mean to Looking for the Israel Yeah, that's I'm reading that.

[00:20:09]Um fractions of [music] New Mex's unexplained uranium defects of Israel for its nuclear weapons program because of the high stake uh Israel have attempted to account for what is known of Sorry.

[00:20:37]Dang it, man. No, yeah, I get you you got me. I got to have my my my stuff [music] down pat when I want to argue with with you so I I get that. I would just say that there are probably a million different Like there are a million different conclusions.

[00:20:53]Like I I get what you're saying, but >> are what are what the Like there's also a chance. Here's something else you have to do. Like there's a million [music] reasons why that uranium could have gone missing.

[00:21:02]And also a million different reasons how it could have gone missing and how um uh Israel might have come into possession of it. Uh now I'm not saying they did, but like if they did, uh there are also a million different ways how that could have happened without them stealing it. Uh ways that you and I probably aren't even thinking. Like imagine imagine so we we used when we were inspecting Israel's nuclear facilities, we like intentionally walked in with a blindfold knowing that they were manufacturing weapons, but we didn't care. We basically told everyone that we were inspecting their facilities to make sure they weren't manufacturing nuclear weapons because we didn't want the world to be pissed off at us, but we knew they were doing it. I mean it was very obvious looking back historically that we knew they were doing it. What are the odds that we just gave them the uranium and said it went missing? Like this is something perfectly logical that could have happened and makes complete sense with the US's track record. Like we are always doing shady [ __ ] and 400 or 300 kg or whatever it was of enriched uranium doesn't just go missing. Like and by the way, nobody's nobody's going to like walk in and burglar it either.

[00:22:05]Like this is obviously going to be under guard But isn't like another way they got stuff like they did a whole like thing with a ship back in the day? I I forget the exact story.

[00:22:15]>> I I don't know what you're talking about, but like 300 kg of uranium is like you have need to have multiple people to carry this.

[00:22:24]You're not just going to like walk out with it. It's going to be in like big Well, yeah. I don't even know how you transport it, but you have to mitigate for radiation and like this isn't something you just walk in and put in your pocket and and walk out with.

[00:22:35]Right? The the stealing of this would have to be like a freaking heist. Like a high high level heist that somehow we were just totally ignorant of. How how did they get into our facilities to take it? Huh?

[00:22:51]So the documents are the side up.

[00:22:54]No, I'm saying they could I'm just citing a possibility. Like I'm just saying that there are many like places this this this material could have gone. We could have sent it somewhere else. We could have sent it to a different facility. We didn't want people to know we were moving uranium. Let's say like we're working on something sketchy at like Area 51, for example. Now, I know this sounds stupid, whatever, but like just a hypothetical. Let's say we're working on something with nuclear material in your in Area 51, and we don't want anyone to know that like this material is being transported to Area 51. We lost it. What if there's a corrupt government official that's doing something with uranium that he's not supposed to be doing, you know?

[00:23:31]There could be a million places this stuff went.

[00:23:33]>> That's another point. What are your thoughts on the whole declassifying of all these documents and how a lot of them are literally just like flares [music] and Well, one of the ones that like a million of like all the declassified UFO footage that's coming out that they're the administration's like leaking. Oh, I don't know.

[00:23:50]>> seen any of Um I I don't have a Like some of them have been proven to like literally just be like flares that are on a parachute. And one of them where they had like where they It's a photo of an alien is from Germany in the 1950s when they were doing like a propaganda like parody like newspaper thing about an alien.

[00:24:06]>> Yeah, yeah, I've seen that stuff. I don't I don't know. I mean, I I'll be honest with you. I just haven't looked into this stuff enough. I'll be honest with you. I just haven't looked into this stuff enough. I'll be honest with you. I just haven't looked into this stuff enough. I'll be honest >> It's just like Yeah, I think they're just trying to [ __ ] [music] I really just haven't looked at this stuff enough.

[00:24:17]>> all part of the psyop.

[00:24:18]It's all part of the psyop.

[00:24:20]I mean, I don't think I think I think you end up in a really bad place when you just [music] assume that everything is a psyop. Um I I I can't I I can't account for for this [music] cuz I just haven't looked into this UFO stuff. It's not something I spend my time on.

[00:24:35]Neither do I. I just I see the headlines and I just I'll just see like the stuff on Instagram and Twitter and [ __ ] [music] so.

[00:24:41]Cuz I I I don't believe any of that. I just think it's it's the government always trying to like waste your time and just trying to occupy people's thoughts. It's possible.

[00:24:49]>> other things.

[00:24:51]>> [snorts] >> Is there anything else you want to talk about related to Israel? Um I guess not cuz my main thing is I got to I guess I got to look more into this before I can [music] fully argue it. So Okay. I guess you got me there. All right, man. Yeah, you have a good one.

[00:25:05]Yeah, you as well.

[00:25:07]Hey there, what do you think about Trump?

[00:25:09]Good.

[00:25:11]I think I've seen you somewhere.

[00:25:12]Maybe, maybe not. What do you think about Trump?

[00:25:15]I don't really like him in particular.

[00:25:17]Why not?

[00:25:19]I just don't agree with his policies.

[00:25:21]Which policies?

[00:25:23]Like generalization and like the Middle East.

[00:25:27]That's like a problem with his policies.

[00:25:28]>> Generalization in the Middle East.

[00:25:30]Neither of those are policies.

[00:25:32]Okay, well I mean like in I don't mean policies. I just don't like agree with him politically. Okay, like on what?

[00:25:38]Like I don't agree with us being in a war with Iran. Okay, so Iran killed three soldiers at Tower 22 in Jordan, injured 40, sent an intelligence asset to kill the president, violated UN Resolution 2231, enriched uranium to 60% despite being prohibited to enrich past 3.5% and you think that we should have just rolled over and let that happen.

[00:25:55]They killed 40 Americans on October 7th.

[00:25:57]I think when countries kill Americans, we should kill them.

[00:26:00]Do you disagree with that?

[00:26:02]Um I'm against war, so I'm against You're against all war? All war?

[00:26:06]Yeah. World War II, are you against that?

[00:26:09]Yeah. So you think that we should have after Pearl Harbor when Japan slaughtered our people, we should have just rolled over and did nothing about it? I'm not saying we should have rolled over. I'm just telling you I'm against war.

[00:26:19]>> Do you think France should have just rolled over after World War II?

[00:26:22]Like I said, I'm personally against war.

[00:26:25]Okay, so you think that war is justified in some circumstances, that's correct? I think I think in the past it can be, yeah. Okay, so do you think that it's justified to go to war with Iran if they send an intelligence asset to assassinate the president of the United States and other politicians?

[00:26:39]Um no. Oh, so we think you think we should just let them keep sending people to try to kill our president and that's cool?

[00:26:44]>> No, I just think that like there's other ways to deal with it without starting a war. Could you give me an example of another way to deal with it without starting a war?

[00:26:51]>> Um maybe like we assassinate their leader.

[00:26:53]Uh we did that.

[00:26:54]>> Okay. Yeah.

[00:26:55]>> I guess we did do that. Which would cause a war. You're aware of that, right? If we go kill their leader, that's going to start a war, and it did.

[00:27:02]So, you actually agree with Trump.

[00:27:04]That's the funny thing.

[00:27:05]Well, no, not really. I just wouldn't have thought that. The the way that the way that you laid it out what we should do is actually exactly what Trump did.

[00:27:11]He went and killed their leader. In fact, he killed all of them.

[00:27:13]>> Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying like I just don't agree with like fighting a war. Like I feel that we should be able to end this war a lot quicker than we had. Well, the the war is over. There's a ceasefire. It's over.

[00:27:24]Is it Is it going to be permanently over, though?

[00:27:27]The Yeah, the war is over. The Straits of Hormuz are reopening. The war is over. We're not actively striking Iran anymore.

[00:27:35]Yeah, but how long is it going to be like that? That's the whole thing. Uh presumably forever, unless Iran breaks the ceasefire, which they're not even really capable of doing.

[00:27:43]That's what I'm thinking, though. Like why wouldn't they just break it, though?

[00:27:45]Cuz they have nothing to lose. Well, they don't even have a military really anymore. We destroyed their entire air force. We destroyed their entire navy.

[00:27:50]We destroyed their entire governing apparatus. We blew up pretty much every police station in the country. We destroyed most of their military bases.

[00:27:57]We took out their nuclear capabilities.

[00:27:58]They don't really even have a means of breaking the ceasefire.

[00:28:02]They could shoot some Shahada drones, but that would be unwise, as well. Like they're not They're in a situation where they're totally crippled. They're not going to to to reinflame the war if they don't have to.

[00:28:14]I guess, but I still think like I just >> way, if they broke the ceasefire, that's on them, not on Trump, right?

[00:28:21]Yeah.

[00:28:23]So, why would you blame Trump for that?

[00:28:26]Because he would obviously retaliate back.

[00:28:29]As he should if they break a ceasefire.

[00:28:32]If they attack us and break a ceasefire, fire back.

[00:28:36]>> [ __ ] hole country. It doesn't really matter like >> Iran is a small [ __ ] hole country. Iran is is I think Iran is bigger than the United States.

[00:28:44]They have millions of people. It's not a small country. It's not even a small country compared to other >> big in the United States. Uh let me look it up actually.

[00:28:52]See how big it is. Iran is like a fraction of the United States.

[00:28:55]You might be right.

[00:28:58]But they're still not a small country.

[00:28:59]They're bigger than Iraq, they're bigger than Jordan, they're bigger than Afghanistan, they're bigger than Israel, they're bigger than most of their neighbors.

[00:29:09]Iran is not bigger than the United States, you're correct. It's 1/6 the size.

[00:29:13]But either way, Iran is not a small country. Can Can you tell me Actually, do you even know where Iran is? Like what countries does Iran border, do you think?

[00:29:22]Yeah, it's um Iran is got Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Afghanistan, I think. Then Iraq is below it, and then Iran is right there, I think. Right. Wait. Wait.

[00:29:36]Iraq is below what?

[00:29:39]Um like I'm trying to think It's like what what I can't >> Iraq is not below Israel. And No, no, no, no. I'm not saying it's to the right of Israel.

[00:29:48]Okay. On a map. Okay. What What countries are between What countries are between Iraq and and Israel? Let's start there.

[00:29:56]Which countries are between which one?

[00:29:58]Iraq and Israel. What country is between them?

[00:30:02]Um I think Afghanistan borders it, right?

[00:30:06]>> No.

[00:30:07]Jordan.

[00:30:07]>> No.

[00:30:08]Okay, Jordan. And then >> And then what countries What countries are between Iraq and Iran?

[00:30:17]Uh I would assume like You said Jordan and Lebanon? No. No.

[00:30:21]Lebanon is north of Israel.

[00:30:24]It was a trick question. There are no countries between Iraq and Iran. They border each other.

[00:30:31]Uh let me look at a map looking.

[00:30:33]Yeah.

[00:30:34]I mean I I think it's interesting to talk, you know, about regional conflicts like this when you just literally have no information about them.

[00:30:42]I mean I I I know about the Middle East and it doesn't really like Well, Afghanistan wasn't even in the same like rough area.

[00:30:58]Yeah, so like I don't see where Iraq is touching Israel.

[00:31:02]I didn't say Iraq is touching Israel. I said Jordan is between Iraq and Israel.

[00:31:06]You said Iraq touches Israel.

[00:31:10]Wait, Iran is like not even touching Israel.

[00:31:12]That's what I said.

[00:31:14]Oh, I thought you were trying to say that Iran does touch Israel.

[00:31:17]>> No, it doesn't. That's what you said.

[00:31:22]I just did not say that. Iraq I was putting back what you said.

[00:31:27]Definitely not. Anyway, what else don't you like about Trump?

[00:31:31]I was right about it being in between Iraq.

[00:31:32]>> You definitely weren't.

[00:31:34]I literally said Iraq and Afghanistan.

[00:31:37]And Iraq is in between. So, I was half right and half I literally know what I said and I said >> You said that Iraq was below Israel and you said between Iraq and Israel is Afghanistan.

[00:31:50]No, cuz Afghanistan's above it.

[00:31:52]>> And then you then said Lebanon is between Iraq and Iran, which is not true.

[00:31:57]>> Yo, I'm not big Middle Eastern guy. My bad. Okay, what else don't you like about Trump?

[00:32:02]I don't really like his personality.

[00:32:04]What about his personality?

[00:32:06]I mean, I just think he's pretty arrogant. I mean, a lot of people are arrogant, but Think you have to be at least a little bit arrogant to be the president of the United States. Wouldn't you agree?

[00:32:14]I mean, maybe, but I just don't I just don't like it. I don't like how he's like I don't really like how he talks about like women. What does he say about women?

[00:32:24]I just think he can be very scoffful. I mean, I understand like joking around and like being arrogant, but like >> He seems to he I think he values women quite a bit. I mean, look at his cabinet. Kellyanne Conway, Suzy Wiles, Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem. It seems like he he values women.

[00:32:40]>> saying he doesn't value women. I'm just saying he's not very respectful to women in general, like at least in the past.

[00:32:45]Okay. And so, that means he shouldn't be president? I mean, like if we're talking about >> No, I didn't say that. You said, "Why would I disagree with Trump?" But I'm saying I disagree with him.

[00:32:53]>> doesn't seem like a meaningful disagreement with Trump, right? If we're going to look at like, "Oh, this president, like presidents shouldn't be disrespectful." It's like, "Okay, well."

[00:33:01]Um Joe Biden said poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids. He also said the N-word on the Senate floor.

[00:33:06]Um I don't know that like any president has been a saint.

[00:33:11]>> Yeah, I disagree with him on it on, you know, ICE. On ICE? Okay, what about ICE?

[00:33:17]I just I don't I don't agree with it.

[00:33:19]You don't agree with ICE as an institution?

[00:33:21]I don't agree with the methods ICE uses.

[00:33:23]Okay, what methods are they using?

[00:33:27]Like ripping like apart families.

[00:33:32]Ripping apart families. So, if I go get a DUI, let's say I I get behind the wheel of my car, I'm pissed drunk. I don't have Let's say I don't have a wife. Let's say she died or something. I don't have parents.

[00:33:43]They're dead, too. I don't have any family, uh direct family.

[00:33:47]Um I I get arrested. I get pulled over. I fail my field sobriety test. I blow up I blow a 1.0 in the breathalyzer. I'm just absolutely hammered.

[00:33:57]Cops take me to jail. Should I be separated from my family and go to jail, or should I be allowed to continue walking the streets?

[00:34:02]>> be separated from your family cuz you have no family, so. No, no, I have kids.

[00:34:05]Sorry. I have kids. I I I might have failed the analogy a little bit there.

[00:34:09]In this In this analogy, I have children.

[00:34:11]Uh but I don't have I don't have like a wife or I don't have anyone in my family that could take the children. Should my Should my children be sent to like a like a shelter, and I should go to jail, or should my kids go to jail with me, or should I be allowed to get out of it?

[00:34:26]>> Okay. So, that's the same thing that happens to illegal immigrants. And illegal immigrants have also violated the law.

[00:34:31]>> The difference is is ICE is going out and publicly finding them for like even if they haven't committed even if the immigrants haven't committed like a crime besides the crime of entering in the country illegally. So, are you advocating that we shouldn't enforce uh 8 US Code 1325?

[00:34:47]Okay, so you do So, you do think You do think that we should go get these people. You do think we should arrest them for violating 8 US Code 1325.

[00:34:54]>> that America has sent more of a more of a um a message so far to the point where like we could start getting these people put in legally and just close our borders entirely from not >> are closed, but millions of people illegally immigrated here. So, now we have to get them out. And when we get them out, they undoubtedly have to be separated from their families if they brought their fam their small children here illegally. The kids don't belong in the detainment facility, so they go to shelters. If um they have a relative in the United States, like an aunt or an uncle who's here legally, then the Trump administration actually gives the relative custody of the child until the immigration situation is sorted out. We deport the parent, and the parent gets to decide um you know, if they're an American if the kid's an American citizen if they were born here, the parent gets to decide whether they stay in the United States or whether they come with them. Um if they the kid is an illegal immigrant, too, and they're not an American, then they're deported along with the family.

[00:35:52]Yeah, well, I'm just telling you I still I still don't agree with with with finding people. Well, I don't think illegal immigrants should get right more rights than American citizens. I think if they commit a crime, they should be treated exactly the same or worse.

[00:36:03]Um but in this case, they're treated exactly the same.

[00:36:06]If I commit a crime, my kids get put in a shelter and I get separated from my family. I go to jail.

[00:36:12]If an illegal immigrant does the same, they get the same.

[00:36:17]What?

[00:36:20]You agree with that?

[00:36:21]No.

[00:36:22]You don't. You think that illegal immigrants should have special privileges over American citizens.

[00:36:27]I'm saying I don't agree with fighting hunting down illegal immigrants and breaking down the doors and taking them from their families.

[00:36:35]Okay, so what's your alternative? Just leave them alone?

[00:36:39]Yeah. Okay, so don't enforce the law.

[00:36:42]That's your alternative.

[00:36:43]>> No, enforce the law when they break a a crime. They have 8 US Code 1325.

[00:36:47]Improper entry by alien is a federal criminal offense.

[00:36:49]>> I'm saying I Which I said before, I said I said I said they haven't broken any crime like fighting immigrants after they haven't broken any crimes besides the crime of breaking and entering.

[00:36:58]>> should we say why we should why should we give them the pass on violating 8 US Code?

[00:37:01]>> So the whole thing is like I'm coming from my religious aspect and you're not >> What is your religion? Are you a Christian?

[00:37:07]Yeah, I'm Catholic.

[00:37:08]>> Okay, what does that have to do with um not deporting illegal immigrants?

[00:37:12]Because >> Where Where does Jesus say, "Well, you can't deport You can't deport illegal >> I just I guess you just don't understand the Catholic faith and it's not just based off what the Bible says. The majority of it is based off what the Bible teaches. It's also off what is taught by the apostles. Those interrogation after. And Okay, which apostle said you can't deport illegal immigrants?

[00:37:30]Which apostle said that you can go rip out and take them from their family without Well, well, hold up. It's It's not a It's Which apostle said guns are Which apostle said guns are okay?

[00:37:37]Because they didn't even have guns back then. So you're just You're making an assumption.

[00:37:40]>> exactly. My point. It's not about It's not about um them saying you can do things. You're saying that you can't do it because of your religion. So I'm asking you which apostle said you can't do it.

[00:37:50]>> do it because of my religion. I'm using my religion as a as my morality guide and it's telling me Okay, so which which apostle told you it's not right? What What verse would you cite to say >> So it's not it's not just off of what apostles said. Just we can go back to what we just talked about.

[00:38:06]Okay, what's it not What's it based on?

[00:38:08]What is your religious view based on if not the Bible and the apostles?

[00:38:12]Um the papacy.

[00:38:14]Okay. And so Okay, this is where we're just going to get into weird territory.

[00:38:17]So if the Pope If the Pope says to jump off a bridge, are you going to do that?

[00:38:22]Well, the jump Pope wouldn't say that.

[00:38:23]So, you're being you're putting in the theoretical question.

[00:38:25]>> So, if the Pope if the Pope says I'm pro-abortion, do you support abortion?

[00:38:30]Well, the Pope would never say that because What if he did? What if he did?

[00:38:33]didn't. Well, he didn't.

[00:38:34]>> if What if he did?

[00:38:35]>> Theoretical. You're being theoretical.

[00:38:36]What if I go shoot somebody?

[00:38:37]>> theoretical.

[00:38:38]>> Oh, like I am being theoretical. Because if the if the Pope said I support abortion, obviously that doesn't jive with the Bible.

[00:38:47]That's the problem.

[00:38:49]So, I don't I don't think I I mean we're just going to disagree cuz you're Catholic and you do whatever the Pope says and that's not a dig at Catholics, but >> says, but I'm just telling you >> don't. So, it's not based on the papacy.

[00:38:58]It's partially based off of what he says, but I don't do whatever the Pope says. Okay, great. So, tell me from a religious perspective, why is it wrong to deport illegal immigrants?

[00:39:09]It's inhumane. Okay, what's inhumane about it?

[00:39:13]Um is not treating them as humans. Well, they are humans. We're saying you are a human who came into this country illegally and now we're going to treat you exactly how we would treat any other human who violated the law.

[00:39:24]Yeah, well, I don't I don't think ICE treat them how they how they would, so.

[00:39:28]You what?

[00:39:30]I don't think ICE treat them how they would treat other American civilians.

[00:39:34]Well, of course they don't because they're not American citizens. They don't have the same rights.

[00:39:37]>> a couple minutes They treat them like humans, but they're not American citizens.

[00:39:41]>> said that they have You just said that we treat them like equal like literally 5 minutes ago.

[00:39:45]>> No, I said we treat them like humans.

[00:39:47]There's a difference between being a human and being an American. All humans are not Americans, nor do all humans have the same rights as all Americans.

[00:39:54]Okay, so you So, then you would have just been saying that we treat them below being humans with that law.

[00:39:57]>> No, we treat them below being Americans because they are.

[00:40:00]Okay, well, you just said 5 minutes ago that we treat they have they're equal to an American. They're equal to humans, not equal to Americans.

[00:40:08]No, that was not what you're talking about.

[00:40:10]>> That That's exactly what I said. No, because we weren't even talking about humans at that point. We were talking about American citizens.

[00:40:16]They're true you said humans.

[00:40:17]>> ICE to taps. You want to These illegal immigrants have special permission. So, no, you're just going back on yourself.

[00:40:22]That's not what I said. You said that you want them to have special rights over over Americans.

[00:40:27]You said you want them to have special rights over Americans cuz you don't want to prosecute them for violating >> to have special rights. I said I wanted them to be treated >> You You want to give them the pass for violating a US code 1325 of US law.

[00:40:37]>> You did.

[00:40:38]You said you don't want them to be hunted down. If any other American commits a crime, they're hunted down.

[00:40:46]Anything else that you don't like about Trump?

[00:40:49]I mean, not not in particular. I mean, I agree with agree with him on other things.

[00:40:53]Okay. What do Let's hear what you agree with him on.

[00:40:56]I mean, second amendment, um what he said with like the school um school federal school, whatever the heck it's called.

[00:41:07]The um >> Department of Education? Yeah, Department of Education. That's what I'm thinking of. My bad. Um you know, him not wanting to institute a a a federal health care system.

[00:41:20]Um tariffs.

[00:41:26]I mean, I mean, I agree with him on a lot of stuff. Pretty much in the middle, I'd say. Okay. All right, man. Well, have a good day.

[00:41:35]Hi there. Question for you.

[00:41:37]I have an answer. What do you think about Trump?

[00:41:41]Um >> [laughter] >> I just like to hear other people's perspectives. He doesn't like me. Why doesn't he like you?

[00:41:49]Because I'm a brown woman.

[00:41:52]Well, his wife is uh like what does that have to do with What does that have to do with uh with him liking or not liking you? He His His uh His director of the FBI is a brown man. His director of national intelligence is a brown woman.

[00:42:05]>> You're right. He knows brown people, so he must be okay with everything.

[00:42:08]>> Well, no, it's not that he knows them.

[00:42:10]It's that he actually appointed them to positions of power.

[00:42:13]Period.

[00:42:14]Period. So clearly it's not a vendetta he has against brown people.

[00:42:18]Okay. So what makes you not like Trump?

[00:42:21]I mean, I'm just trying to live my best life, you know.

[00:42:26]Okay. Are you Are you going to look at me or are you going to look the other way?

[00:42:29]>> I'm actually looking at you. Um you're on my other monitor.

[00:42:32]Oh, period. How do I look?

[00:42:34]Um I'm not going to answer that question.

[00:42:37]Oh.

[00:42:40]It's too good for you to give me an answer.

[00:42:42]>> I don't want to be rude.

[00:42:44]Oh, okay, period. Uh anyway, so why don't you like Trump?

[00:42:48]I don't know. What do you want to ask?

[00:42:51]Um well, I'm just curious why you don't like him. You said you don't like him.

[00:42:54]>> Do you like Trump? I do.

[00:42:56]Okay, tell me why. Uh he deports illegal immigrants, which is great. He said that little kids can't have their balls and breasts cut off. He uh showed Iran that they're not allowed to kill our people and get away with it. Um tax cuts are a great thing. Uh people making 15 to 50,000 dollars a year receive an average tax break of 26% thanks to the tax tax cuts and jobs act. Uh I mean, there are a lot of reasons to like Trump. He's a great president.

[00:43:19]Okay.

[00:43:23]Yeah, any other reasons why you don't like him?

[00:43:27]Um I don't know if I like rapists, but I mean, that's you know. What makes you think he's a rapist?

[00:43:33]Oh, okay.

[00:43:36]No, seriously. Seriously, maybe there's something you maybe there's a piece of evidence you have that I don't have, that I'm not aware of. So if if he's a rapist, the first thing I'm going to do, if you can prove that he's a rapist, like the first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to take this out on the sidewalk and I'm going to burn it. So if you can prove that he's a rapist, it's definitely something I want to be apprised on.

[00:43:53]Oh, yeah.

[00:43:54]Like I want to be aware if he is.

[00:43:56]What makes you think he's a rapist?

[00:43:59]Well, there's multiple allegations and claims being brought forward. Well, anyone can accuse anyone of being a rapist. I could accuse you of raping me right now. It doesn't mean you actually did it. No, thank you.

[00:44:10]It doesn't mean you actually did it. You You see the point? Like, that's not actually evidence. If you ask me like, "How do I know Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk?" I'd say like, "His DNA was on the gun. His DNA was on the shell casing. It was his grandfather's gun. He was seen on the roof." Like, these are all pieces of actual evidence.

[00:44:24]Okay. So, what's the evidence that Trump is a rapist?

[00:44:27]Okay.

[00:44:29]I mean, we're obviously going to disagree. Well, I mean, is there is there evidence that he's a rapist or not?

[00:44:36]There is. What What is that evidence?

[00:44:40]These women that have come forward.

[00:44:41]>> Well, that's not actually evidence.

[00:44:42]That's just an allegation. Anyone can accuse anyone of anything. You're going to need evidence to prove that it actually happened.

[00:44:48]So, like actual like semen. Is that what you >> could It could be anything. It could be defensive wounds. It could be semen. It could be DNA. It could be uh non uh semen DNA. It could be a photo of them in the same place where it happened.

[00:45:03]Okay. Could be a lot of different things. It could be an eyewitness account. Somebody saying, "I saw Trump sexually assault this person."

[00:45:10]Okay. And if there were multiple, I saw Yeah, if there were if there were if there were multiple people, um I would say it's not the strongest evidence, but it's definitely a piece of evidence. The fact of the matter is none of that exists for any of the allegations against Trump.

[00:45:24]Okay. There isn't any DNA evidence.

[00:45:27]There isn't any proof of defensive wounds.

[00:45:29]>> No, I am interested. What's up?

[00:45:32]I'm interested in to hear your viewpoints on people like me. On transgender people?

[00:45:37]As transsexuals, yes.

[00:45:39]Um yeah, I mean, I think generally, I think that um we'll start with kids. I don't think that kids should be allowed to medically transition in any way, shape, or form. I think that adults generally should be allowed to do whatever they want with their bodies as long as they don't affect other people um when they do it. So, uh that would mean that you could basically, you know, like I I you know, you can do whatever you want with your body. I could get a piercing if I wanted, there's nothing that should stop me from being able to do that um in the same way that nothing should stop you from modifying your body in whatever way you see fit. However, I do view um doctors engaging in surgery that changes people's bodies as a affirmation of delusion um in the same way that we wouldn't tell an anorexic person that they're fat and they should lose weight. Um we shouldn't be telling transgender people that they are actually the thing that they're delusionable uh delusional about being.

[00:46:30]So, if you are a a born a man, you cannot be a woman, it's physically impossible. A male is an adult human female. Men cannot be females, males cannot be females, it's literally physically impossible. Um so, we shouldn't like basically tell that person that their delusion is true and then physically modify their body to affirm that delusion. The same way that we wouldn't tell a schizophrenic person that they're actually schizophrenic because they're or that sorry, that the voices in their head are real cuz they're not. Um I think that should be viewed as medical malpractice. It should be illegal. But other than that, you can modify your body in whatever way you personally view fit. Um you can wear a dress if you want, you can wear a t-shirt if you want, you can wear short shorts if you want, or you can wear slacks and a suit. It doesn't affect me.

[00:47:10]I might think it's weird, but it it's not something you can legislate. I can't tell you it's illegal for you to dress however you want to dress.

[00:47:17]Okay.

[00:47:20]Yeah. Do you disagree with any of that?

[00:47:23]Mhm. I mean, [music] so you said about like body modifications. Like obviously the way things are, [music] like the age being considered an adult would be 18.

[00:47:35]So, are you saying anything past 18 is okay in a sense? Um I think there I think there's two tiers of it. I don't know how practical my other side of it is. So, like generally, I think adults should be allowed to do whatever they want with their body. So, after you become 18, you can do whatever you want with your body. But there do become problems where like we have doctors who are affirming a delusion and they are um it basically be very similar to if I told an anorexic person as a doctor that they're fat and they should lose weight.

[00:48:07]That's something that you would lose your license over as a doctor. And I think that >> about anorexic people.

[00:48:12]>> Right, but we're talking about two different mental illnesses.

[00:48:15]Okay. So we don't we don't affirm mental illnesses. In no other case do we affirm the mental illness and then medically change a person based on their mental illness and in affirmation of it.

[00:48:25]Generally we try to suppress mental illnesses. So with anorexic people we put them on medicine that this is actually a very similar condition by the way cuz both are body dysmorphia. So we put them on pills that suppress their mental illness.

[00:48:39]Well I'm well then my question to you is if we're using that if we don't treat mental illness. I mean what like 40 30 years ago homosexuality was seen as a mental illness. So how do we go from that level of being acceptance to transgender people not being you know what I mean?

[00:48:56]>> Well well homosexuality >> I mean there was like >> Right incorrectly. So homosexuality is a is a sexual preference. It's a preference to >> But it was also seen as like a mental illness.

[00:49:07]>> seen that way but it wasn't physically a mental illness. Like gay people gay people Huh?

[00:49:14]When did it become okay?

[00:49:15]>> there's a difference there's a difference in these two things like being being being transgender is literally a mental illness. There's an incongruence between your body and your mind. You think you are something that your body physically is not. That's an incongruence between your brain and your mind. Being homosexual is not an incongruence between your brain and your mind. You just simply have a preference that's out of the norm which you know some people might think weird or whatever but it's fine you're an adult you can do whatever you want right? So that's not a mental illness.

[00:49:44]But being transgender is you have an incongruence between your body and your mind. Your body is physical let's say you're born a man your body is physically male but you believe you're a female. Then, I'm curious. When do you think I transitioned, just off looks? I have no idea when you transitioned.

[00:50:00]Well, now that I'm asking you, when Hello, do you think I was? I I I literally could not guess.

[00:50:06]Could you just take a guess?

[00:50:08]I I don't know. Maybe you were young.

[00:50:10]I'm not sure.

[00:50:11]You said Actually, you know what? I'll take a wager on this. You said transsexual, so I'm going to guess that you did it when you were young because you don't look that old, and older people call it like transsexual. Like that's something of the past, I think, largely.

[00:50:26]No, I did I transitioned when I was 20.

[00:50:29]Okay, so you were young. How old are you now?

[00:50:31]I'm 24. Okay. Okay, you're a little younger than I thought you were.

[00:50:35]Um okay, that's that's >> I often get that, so thank you, by the way.

[00:50:39]>> That's fine. The The only reason I guessed that is cuz you said transsexual, and the only person who I've ever heard call it transsexual that is physically trans gender is Buck Angel. That's the only reason I guessed it was a long time ago.

[00:50:47]>> Well, I am a Well, there's actually a definition for someone being transsexual, someone that goes through medical like interventions or through procedures. I've done like through hormones, but also I've gone through surgery. So >> Okay, so do you believe that you are that you are female?

[00:51:04]I mean, there is a term transsexual female. But you're not actually female, though. You know that, right? Like you're not the same as any other female.

[00:51:10]>> I'm not going to tell you that I'm a naturally born biological woman.

[00:51:14]>> And you acknowledge that you're different than a naturally born biological woman. I There There's a term for being transsexual, so yes, I'm I'm not going to wake up and tell you, "Oh, I'm a biological I know I'm a transsexual female." Okay. What do you think about like What do you think about like Lia Thomas on the UPenn women's swim team?

[00:51:35]It's relevant.

[00:51:37]I mean, yeah, but that's been like what talked to No, I'm No, I'm not I'm not I'm not using it as a point against you.

[00:51:42]I'm just asking what you think about it cuz I don't really know.

[00:51:44]>> about Lia Thomas?

[00:51:46]>> Like do you think she should be allowed Or do you think that Lia Thomas as a man should be allowed to swim on the women's swim team and be allowed in their locker rooms?

[00:51:53]Well, I can't speak out for her. I know I would not be in a woman's locker room like changing.

[00:51:59]>> That's great.

[00:52:00]Because I know I know there's a sense of what is okay in this world and I know what is not okay. If I were to use any sort of like public changing area, I'm going to go to like a family room >> That's great.

[00:52:15]or a private stall because I'm not going to just show my genitalia to strangers like that.

[00:52:19]>> That's great. That's fantastic. So, my problem is that like you seem much more rational than most people who I've spoken to in that you acknowledge that there's a difference between you and other women. You acknowledge that you're not like a naturally born female.

[00:52:31]Whereas like Lia Thomas actually thinks that he's a female. Otherwise, he wouldn't be swimming on the women's swim team because the women's swim team is divided by sex, not based on gender or whatever they want to call it.

[00:52:42]>> Some of us are a little little kooky like everyone else. I Yeah, I totally agree with you. I I know I'm not going to just say, "Oh my gosh, I'm a naturally born cuz I know what I am. I am a trans." That's great.

[00:52:53]>> You know, I I made a transit I made a choice to like and this isn't something that I just like uh I rolled out of bed and decided I'm going to wear a dress today.

[00:53:04]>> I didn't I never said that. No, I know but I just want cuz I know there's a lot of like different definitions and points and thoughts because this decision wasn't something that was like an overnight it was a a lifelong decision that I'm going to live as, you know, like and I want to like live as any other woman, you know, I want a husband. I want to be a mother, you know, like all these things. That that's fine. I mean, what I would say is like I think this conversation started out with Trump and I don't think that Trump has legislated against you. I I personally would advocate for like the doctors wouldn't have been able to give you those surgeries, but Trump hasn't and Trump doesn't believe in that either. The only thing Trump has really done related to transgender people is say that kids can't get the surgeries that you've gotten. That's it.

[00:53:50]I mean, I also wouldn't like if someone were to offer me like genitalia surgery like at 15, I'd be like, okay, that's kind of severe. Even today as a 24-year-old, I know if I ever go through that procedure, it is there are so many things that come with it, you know? There are some women that have to have more um there there are some girls that have to um have revision surgeries Mhm.

[00:54:21]to if if there's a complication and and it's obviously it doesn't like my other procedures I've had, they're not just like a 1-month process of healing. It's it's like over a year worth of >> No, I get I I know people who have had that surgery in Thailand.

[00:54:37]Well, yeah, in Thailand it's a different story. Thailand like that They do come with complica- complications. I I get it, but like all I'm saying is that Trump hasn't a different different sector like a section of like cuz that different side of gender is just seen as like lady boys, and I'm not a lady boy.

[00:54:54]>> no, no. Yeah, he went to Thailand cuz the you could get the surgery.

[00:54:58]So, he >> I wouldn't. That'd be scary.

[00:55:01]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, well, he went and got the surgery in Thailand. He was he's a de-transitioner.

[00:55:05]>> your friend? I have a friend, yeah, who went and got the surgery.

[00:55:08]>> god, that's scary. Yeah, he's a he's a um he's a man who transitioned to female and then de-transitioned.

[00:55:15]Well, also I know a lot of people like to put up front they're like, oh, there's all these de-transitioners. We have to be like like but that's also like There are a lot of I know, but being transgender is like less than 1% of the population. Like we're only a small small percentage of people, you >> Sure.

[00:55:32]So, I understand that there's a group and population of de-transitioners.

[00:55:37]But There's like seven within a 10-mi radius of me. Just ones I know about, too. Oh my, that's very specific. [laughter] I don't know any in Seattle. I don't know any of those people, but okay.

[00:55:47]>> I've got a lot of friends that are detransitioners in Seattle.

[00:55:49]>> no. I mean, that's I mean, if And by the way, I'm not making an argument with that, either. No, no, no.

[00:55:54]And I think honestly, if someone were to ask me, "Do I want to detransition?"

[00:55:58]detransition, I'd be like, "No the [ __ ] not." Like I'm very happy with myself. I mean, there's obviously things that come with adulthood, you know, just with as any human being, you know.

[00:56:12]But And you know what I will say that I'm very privileged to look the way that I look and to pass the way that I look, you know. Like Um well, I mean, I guess back to the original conversation, is there anything else that you don't like about Trump?

[00:56:27]Oh, we're going back. Okay, let's see.

[00:56:29]Hmm.

[00:56:31]I mean I just want to live, laugh, love, you know.

[00:56:35]>> Aw. Like Should live, live, laugh, love with a good economy.

[00:56:40]Well, I also want like I I'm not very happy with gas prices right now, but I think that's like everyone, you know, so. Well, what I would say on gas prices is like if we actually look at what's causing the hike in gas prices, it's the war in Iran, but they sent an intelligence asset to kill the president, and they keep killing our soldiers. And so, we can't just let that happen. We had to go to war with them.

[00:56:58]But the gas prices are going to come down because all that oil is going to reenter the market after the streets are open. What's that?

[00:57:03]You promise? I promise the gas prices are going to come back down. I I I would wager I would wager with high confidence. Like if I was at the casino right now, I would put a lot of money on on the gas prices are going to in the next couple months, they're going to dip lower to what they were before the war started. Because all that gas, think about it, gas oil doesn't go bad. So, oil those countries are still producing oil, all of our allies in the Gulf. They're still producing all that oil. They're still pulling it out of the ground and they're still loading it onto ships.

[00:57:35]They just can't get it out of the straits because Iran blocked them. So, the straits are reopening. All that oil is going to reenter the market and gas prices are highly speculative. So, um with that new, like, what is it? Like a 7-week supply of uh oil just flooding the market, it's going to cause the prices to to absolutely plummet.

[00:57:54]>> game or something? Yeah, I'm playing Minecraft.

[00:57:57]I literally was like, "Are you playing Minecraft?" Or like, so. Yeah. Building a big house.

[00:58:02]You're building a big house, [music] period.

[00:58:05]Period. Yep.

[00:58:08]Well, anything else? Anything else you don't like about him? Is there anything that you want to talk about? Um I mean More specifically. I mean, I know there's When you talk to I know every trans person has their own little point of view and their own pocket of information, but maybe something like I mean, I like him deporting illegal immigrants. I like I mean, I think I listed a bunch of the reasons why I like him. I think the war was good.

[00:58:32]Um I mean, there's a bunch of reasons why I like him.

[00:58:35]Okay.

[00:58:36]Period. If that makes you happy, then continue live, laugh, loving. Cool. All right. Well, you have a good night. I appreciate the conversation. Thanks for keeping it respectful.

[00:58:44]Period.