Dehumanization in political discourse refers to the practice of treating individuals or groups as less than human, often through harmful rhetoric, which can lead to real-world consequences such as people being fired for expressing opinions about deceased figures. This concept is illustrated through the example of Turning Point USA's response to Charlie Kirk's assassination, where the organization's actions were criticized as more disrespectful to the deceased than the original event.
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>> We're back.
>> Listen, so the last time that Gabrielle and I covered um Ashley Stlair, you know, Elon's baby's mom.
>> Oh, >> we were like, you know, kind of like, you know, >> now I'm a fan.
>> No, >> she is hilarious. Okay.
>> And she's going scorched earth on all of her former friends, which I'm here for it, dude. Like, >> sign of a totally sane human being.
>> That's what I'm saying. If she wants to burn her friends to the ground, I will watch. Even if I like them, depend. I don't I mean, I don't honestly I don't even know who she's going to talk about in this one. Uh well, I know she's going to be talking about Erica Kirk and Turning Point, but uh I don't know how hard she's going to go in the paint, you know, but um I've heard it's pretty ruthless. So, >> let's find out, shall we?
>> Oh my god, the last one I got completely captivated. She's she's a good storyteller. So, uh let's see. It says Ashley St. is going scorched earth on TP USA Erica Kirk and Charlie. Oh, I didn't see the Charlie part. Let's go.
>> A wee bit of trouble for discussing Erica Kirk. So, we're going to discuss Erica Kirk a little bit more. For those who don't know, my name is Ashley Stlair. I was a MAGA influencer involved in MAGA politics for almost a decade. I know now. I had made a Tik Tok about Erica Kirk being upset about the Drewski skit calling it whiteface, which whiteface isn't real. Okay, it's objectively not real. Okay, blackface is real because of the history in this country and the blatant racism associated with it. Okay, white face is not real. But I will digress.
I after I posted this video, I deleted it because I thought the comments to Erica Kirk were too mean. And I don't know, I'm a sap and I don't agree with her on really anything. But I was like, "Oh, this this woman's being dogpiled in my comments." And as a mother, I don't know. I was just uncomfortable. And I thought I was being as charitable as possible to Erica, just giving her advice from my experience that I think the people giving her advice are awful.
I think she needs to log off and take some time because that's what was most helpful for me when >> Yes, that is good advice. This is exactly I actually have a whole separate video I'm doing because Tim Dylan apparently did a skit like a whole thing talking about that and Ryan said it to me because he's like, "Hey, you and him have the same advice." What I said, I'm like, "Get out of here."
>> Yeah.
>> Just for like two years. Just go hang it up, dude. Or at very least never be on camera, >> right?
>> For two years.
>> I mean, all she's doing is just perpetuating the news cycle. Just bringing herself right back.
>> Just saying there's no way to shake this off except for silence.
>> Yeah.
>> The more you fight, the worse it's going to get. I feel like any good PR team would know that it's not rocket science.
>> Correct.
>> When I was going through a lot. Uh, nonetheless, this video has still been making the rounds on Twitter and going viral despite me not even being on that godforsaken platform because again, they're suing me.
>> Well, we just picked that spot at random. And uh, here is here's some little bit of instruction here.
Gabrielle came up with this earlier and I'm actually going to just put it at the front because I want everybody to hear this. Okay, >> please in the comments comment where you live and what gas costs right now. Just right out of the gate, like just where do you live and what is gas per gallon right now? And then also >> like the video, subscribe to the channel, hit the hype button if you haven't. And we already asked you to comment, so you can do that again if you want.
>> Let's go.
>> Also, I'm going to go try this.
>> What did she just say?
>> She said a platform is suing Did she say X >> going viral despite me not even being on that godforsaken was helpful for me when I was going through a lot. Uh nonetheless, this video has still been making the rounds on Twitter and going >> I love that she's still calling it Twitter.
>> Her baby's her baby daddy's >> platform >> is suing her.
>> Mhm.
apparently.
>> Wow.
>> He's like, "Here is your child support now. Also, send it right back."
>> Yeah, we're gonna we're going to go ahead and take that back.
>> Despite me not even being on that godforsaken platform because again, they're suing me. Also, I'm going to go try this Valuable ProLow again because I'm so mad about the luminous silk still. Um, I've made a big mistake. I've put too much on, but we're going to roll with it.
>> Oh my god.
>> Now, if people want to keep me in this conversation, whatever. Then I will keep talking about it and I will tell you guys how I really feel because I also have texts from Charlie that I think could help everyone in this moment. Now, Erica Kirk goes on this long rant about dehumanization and that the epidemic plaguing this country is dehumanization.
>> She's right.
>> And we're not even going to go into the rhetoric of Charlie towards the end of his life, okay? Because wasn't great, okay? Saying that you're not going to get on a plane if there's a black pilot. Like, dude, what the >> Oh, shut up, Ashley Stlair. Are you [ __ ] serious?
Are you serious?
That's not what he said, idiot.
That I have no tolerance for at all.
Okay, that's not what he said. He said that because they have made it public that their hiring standards have been reduced based on race, then that forces anyone with common sense if they get onto a plane and see a black pilot to think to themselves, gosh, I hope he's qualified. That's what he said, which is common sense and smart, not whatever the you're trying to misframe it as. Now everything she says is suspect.
Nonetheless, if we all remember, in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination, many, many people got fired, okay? The right-wing and MAGA went on a freaking jihad over anyone who said something, anyone who really wasn't sad that Charlie had died. They were >> uh Nope. No, no.
Wrong.
Gabrielle, do you remember who got fired?
>> No.
>> People who went on X and were like, "Good. I'm glad that this piece of got fired or anyone like that [ __ ] I hear Crystal Ball do that same. Oh, they went on this." He's like, "No, no, no. These people literally said that they were happy that he got murdered in front of everyone." Unreal, dude.
>> Standing about this at all. And to me, I get a lot of crit criticism. I have people who are still very angry at me for my contribution to the harmful rhetoric and this goddamn dictator Oompa Loompa in the Oval Office. Okay? And you know what I do? I'm understanding of that because I am >> because I switch sides because there's no way that I could say like I hold the same principles as I did before, but he has not, you know, like stood up to my principles and what I would expect from him. It's like I just I have no ability to actually stand for anything. I just switch sides. I just switch sides. Okay.
Sorry. That just uh flew off the handle.
>> It happens.
>> Those things make me very upset and I will end up just steamrolling this entire stupid thing.
>> Mhm.
>> So, I'm not going to get mad the rest of this time.
>> Back.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> Being introspective about my own contributions here. Uh but they don't they don't seem to have this introspection. Instead, they got people fired. people. They have not followed up with these people. They have no idea the damage they did to people's lives because they they got them fired from their jobs. There's a professor who won't get tenure because they disagreed with her sentiments on the death.
>> Ma'am, you can't just walk around saying that you're happy that people are dead.
>> Yeah. Why don't you Why don't you produce her name and show us exactly what she said and then we can talk about it. Okay. Because just saying that it we didn't agree is laughably misrepresenting what happened.
>> Yeah.
>> I never once saw that's not true. I did see a couple times when people were forwarding those things and I looked I'm like okay that's not that bad. But the ones that I saw almost exclusively Yeah.
were like >> you can't >> celebrating.
>> Exactly. That's and it was like this is the cultural problem with these guys.
>> Correct.
And that's the dehumanization that Erica was talking about.
>> Exactly. This is where Erica was 100% right.
>> Correct.
>> Of Charlie. And all of this is in the name of, you know, honoring a man who was killed. But if you want my real opinion, I don't think anything has been more dehumanizing and disrespectful to a dead man than what Turning Point, Andrew Kvette, and all of those folks have done to him after he died.
>> I wouldn't necessarily disagree in, you know, if this, then that. you know.
>> Mhm.
>> You put the tent up at >> They have made some weird choices for sure.
>> Mhm.
>> Some very weird choices.
>> Seems like they don't really know how to behave because it seems like they don't know how to feel.
And usually how you feel is just how you feel.
>> You don't need to think about it. You just feel that way. Mhm.
>> And they don't know how to feel, which is weird.
>> One thing about Charlie is Charlie liked results. Charlie liked when things were viral. Charlie liked when there was social media engagement. And I don't think he would be too happy that they have been posting from a dead man's account and keeping his show alive just for it to [ __ ] flop.
I'm sure he would be beside himself if he saw the decisions that were being made by TPUSA because, you know, it's probably the exact opposite of what he would do in this exact situation.
>> Maybe, or maybe I'll just propose a second option.
Maybe when you take the entirety of the on camera talent off the chessboard, it becomes very challenging to create interesting content.
>> Yeah.
>> Like bottom line. Okay. Did you see what happened when they fired Candace Owens and then they reactivated the Daily Wire Candace Owens show with someone else on it?
>> Someone not Candace.
>> Didn't do very well, did it?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. You can't just re you can't recreate the same magic without the like who's on camera is the entire >> show.
>> All we do is sit here and talk.
>> People watch people they like watching talk. if you're just like, "Oh, you know, can let's let's throw an AI system in and see exactly what Jesse and Gabrielle are doing and then we'll write up scripts and then we'll put, you know, someone better looking than Jesse and the same as Gabrielle and see if that works." It's like, it's not going to work, dude. It's not going to work. You might find someone better looking. You can't find someone more talented or someone who loves a co-host like I do.
So, it's not going to work. It's not going to work, okay? Mhm.
>> Until they just AI us and then they, you know what I mean?
>> Terrifying.
>> Like a hundred years from now, they're going to be going through all the old stuff and they're just like, "Oh, these guys were popular." And they just just do the AI version of us.
>> No, thank you. I do not consent.
>> It's not going to matter.
>> Okay. The videos on the Charlie Kirk Show YouTube channel are flops. I could get more views doing a stupid Tik Tok sound than these people are getting on the Charlie Kirk Show YouTube page.
Nonetheless, okay, they do this whole video, this live stream, a special message from Erica Kirk. And something that has gone rather unnoticed because it wasn't in the live stream, but it is on the YouTube channel is halfway through this special message from Charlie's widow is a [ __ ] ad read from Andrew Colt. He's so unhinged that he is able to teach children by day and then attempt to murder the president of the United States by night.
>> Is that what happened though? Is that what happened? Like I listen, I don't want to get too in the weeds of what I was just doing a video on. But I I I feel like I should just show Gabrielle this. Okay.
So, just if we're getting in the weeds here, >> did you ever watch the one with the dog that I sent you?
>> This is that.
>> Oh, >> so here you go. Right. So, he's like, "And I'm going in the room." Going in the room. Security guard and the dog are talking to me.
>> And they're like, "What are you doing?"
I'm like, "Nothing, dude. Don't ignore the rifle now."
>> Okay, watch this. Two seconds. turns away. Two seconds.
>> Hey, that lines up, guys.
>> Hey, you want to see a big uh a big reveal that I found at the end of this, though? Watch this.
>> And you keep watching. You keep watching. They're like, "Oh my god, we're doing this drill thing. Oh my god, we're we're doing this drill thing."
>> Just running around.
>> Running around. And then both.
>> Who's that?
>> I don't know. Who is that?
>> Well, >> oh man. Who is that? That's Cash Patel.
in a tuxedo, glasses, dark skin >> with the bow tie. Let's see.
>> With the bow tie.
>> I mean, maybe.
>> Maybe. But who is it?
>> I don't know. Where's that room go >> into the >> Was that him walking through it the first time?
>> What do you mean?
>> Like who walked in the door?
>> Oh, the the shooter.
>> Are you sure?
>> Nope.
There's the shooter supposedly, right?
And where's the shotgun?
And he's like, "Hello." He's like, "Hey, what are you guys doing?" He's I'm just getting the shotgun ready. Just going to just getting the shotgun ready. He's like, "Okay, you ready to go?" He's like, "Yeah, I'm ready to go." He's all, "Make sure you give it at least eight seconds." He's all, "All right." He's all 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8.
He's so bad at counting. Like he should He is not a good stopwatcher, dude. Do you know what I mean?
>> That's hilarious.
>> It's so ridiculous.
>> I don't know what to make of that night.
I feel like everything coming out now is just like theater and all of it.
Especially when you factor in that did you know that the ballroom has been that that construction's been held up but they >> the White House ballroom >> and they gave it a loophole that if it's something that is for national security or security they can do that and so it's like well listen let's go ahead do the correspondence center God what lacks security looks like we're going to have to go ahead and build the ballroom. Hey, all influencers talk about the ballroom.
They're all, "This is why we need a ballroom. This is why we need a ballroom. This is why we need a ballroom." Every single one of them.
>> Yeah. It's just as bad as like the co news.
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah.
>> Just less infuriating because I don't care about the ballroom, >> right?
>> And I don't have to do that.
>> But if they're doing it with the ballroom, what else is happening? You know, >> I mean, listen, I've said this before.
This is why I am kind of like, yeah, you know, like playing the same game.
nothing that TPUSA or the, you know, people before they invaded Iran had anything to do with us. I'm like, whatever. Oh, big thing in the ball. I don't care.
>> Build the ballroom.
>> Build the ballroom.
>> Mhm.
>> That's why the Iran thing was a big red line for everybody.
>> Yeah.
>> You know, by the way, I paid $4.20 for gas in Texas yesterday.
>> Yeah. What are the gas prices where y'all are at right now? Like, tell us in the comments where you live and what the gas prices are.
>> Yes. Crazy. do that. My mom said almost $8. Uh she saw in California. Uh it I can't remember. It was somewhere weird in California that was not it was not right next to her house, but it was >> Yeah.
>> On Tik Tok, teens get over 50 built-in protections from the start. But for parents, further visibility and control of content can help create the right environment. That's where family pairing comes in.
>> Who the [ __ ] puts an ad read? By the way, it's an ad read for Tik Tok, ironically enough. Who the This is going to be about the ad. Like she's all who puts an ad in. It's like you're not going to think about the implications of the actual ad itself.
>> What?
>> Like what are they doing?
>> What do you mean?
>> I mean it's about something having to do with parental controls, whatever. Which um you know uh terms and conditions agree. And it's like we will access every single thing you've ever done for the rest like from before and for life.
There is no getting out of this contract in any device that you ever use for the rest of your life and anyone else >> to us forever >> in your family. Your 10th generation grandkids, we own them, so just go ahead and, you know, accept.
>> Yes.
>> I mean, I'm sure I've opted into that a 100 times already.
>> Yeah.
>> But, you know, >> the [ __ ] puts an ad read on a message from the dead guy's widow on his show that you guys are insisting that you run. Weird enough, right? Uh, I can tell you who's not putting one in their show is someone who's getting paid alimony by Elon Musk or not alimony, sorry, child support >> by Elon.
>> She also doesn't have a platform that she can put ads on.
>> I mean, this is an 11 minute video >> on Tik Tok.
>> You can read ads on Tik Tok. Of course you can. If you're doing 11 minute videos, you certainly can. They do long form there now. Speaking of which, I should probably start posting there again.
>> That's true. I started a new account because my original account has been flagged as problematic and I cannot monetize it >> billion times >> so many times dude.
>> Okay. But then she go again she goes on this rant about dehumanization and basically she's blaming Duski Candace Owens and and the left. Um that is what Maga's doing. They are saying that these people are the ones dehumanizing people.
>> I hate when people generalize. They're all this is what MAG is doing. You're like, >> "This is what Erica Kirk did." I mean, I'm not like I don't I don't know who you consider MAGA to be. I'm not that.
But like generalizations, man.
>> My own personal experience, I had engaged in a lot of harmful rhetoric, transphobic rhetoric to the trans community.
>> So, we've just like completely abandoned our previous self and now we're completely on the left. Is that what happened?
>> She went She went transphobic. She went transphobic when literally all I'm I'm assuming that she's like everyone else who was just like, "How about not with the sports and how about not with the kids."
>> Mhm.
>> But don't worry, >> she's >> she's figured it out now.
>> She sucks this.
>> She's horrible.
>> Yeah. At no point when I was engaging in this harmful rhetoric did any trans person or p or someone who supported the trans community threaten to take my children at gunpoint.
That did happen, however, after someone decided and all of MAGA after I was remorseful and I humanized the trans community and I said, "Hey, I'm actually remorseful about my dehumanizing rhetoric. I am remorseful about the damage that I did to trans individuals." After I posted this, the entirety of Mega and the rightwing with their trans panic dehumanized me and my children and and said they want to take my child at gunpoint. I am what?
>> [ __ ] please, dude. Sh. Hey, you said all of the right said they want to take your children at gunpoint.
>> I do not want to do that.
>> I don't want to take anything of yours.
I promise.
>> You You keep every single thing that's yours.
>> I don't want anything of yours. Nothing.
>> We've talked about this. You know, >> I like I actually like I'm serious.
>> Oh, yeah. She's >> I have goosebumps. like how reprehensible and like she's gross.
>> It's the word choices, too. Like rhetoric and remorseful. It's like, are you reading like a script?
>> Yes.
>> That's not how normal people speak.
>> No, it's not. And >> not like, I'm sorry for what I said. It It came across in a way. Nope. She's saying it literally like she's like reading out of a dictionary.
>> It's very weird.
>> Very annoying. just be like, you know, listen, I still stand by the fact that I think biological women should not be competing against biological men. That just seems like common sense to me.
>> Maybe I could have said it a little differently and had a different like take on it and thought about people's personal feelings on the situation, but it was my transphobic rhetoric >> and then I humanized the trans community and then all of MAGA, all of the right wanted to take my children at gunpoint. gun point. She's terrible.
>> Prove it, dude.
>> Let's see it.
>> Let's see the receipts.
>> This chick sucks, man.
>> Just absolutely sick of these people blaming the left and everyone else except themselves for the current conditions of the United States. Okay, we have an administration who is arresting Don Lemona is cheering. We have an administration who is arresting James Comey. Okay. And you want to sit here and talk about dehumanization.
Do you really think James Comey and Don Lemon are our biggest issues? Why don't you >> Who said they're our biggest issues?
>> Obviously, people.
>> Okay.
Who is that? I do. Do Do you think I think that like first of all, I'm not MAGA, but like do you think I think that like it's a good worthwhile use of our legal system to go after James Comey because he he put a picture up that says 8647 on the internet. No, I'm not. I No, getting 86 means kicking people out as far as I'm concerned. Like you can kind of like, you know, you could ch be like, "Hey, man. Listen, he's the guy. Maybe he's maybe that's a like go kill the president." And it's like, all right, you know, may maybe >> that means end.
>> You've never heard in a bar where they're like, you're 86.
>> Yeah, >> there you go. There you go. There's your entire defense in court. So, I'm not saying that I maybe he I mean, I'm sure he would probably celebrate if the president got clipped, but like you're charging him with inciting violence.
It's like I mean, that's a pretty decent defense. It's like you just show every movie ever where that guy's 86 and they throw him out of the bar just do 40 times of that and it's like okay guys what are we doing?
>> Yeah it's fair.
>> Um man she I I can't I can't believe I said that I enjoyed listening to her talk last time. It was completely different.
>> You should be embarrassed.
>> I am embarrassed. I am, you know, and like as soon as I tried to humanize her, her rhetoric, >> dude, that was actually pretty good. I said rhetoric exactly like her, huh?
>> That was really good.
>> I almost thought you were her second.
>> Look at her face, dude.
>> I am.
>> I would >> I am entertained by the application of makeup despite the ridiculous amount of foundation she has on.
>> The rest of it I'm I'm kind of feeling.
So, she has that going for her.
>> I would do anything to be a fly on the wall and watch how she went from hello Elon to >> that this now. Yeah.
>> No, no, no, no. I mean, like, how did she get him to put his seed inside of her? Like, you know what I mean?
>> I mean, I feel like he's pretty like open about where he puts that.
>> No. Right. All right. And I'm saying I want to see how she went about that.
Like, I want to know if she just was like, >> I would like to have your baby.
>> Yeah. Elon, would you like me to be >> be one of your baby mamas?
>> Baby mama, cuz like >> I would like that or something. You know what I mean? Like I mean, he's he's kind of like a you know, he doesn't he doesn't really communicate like a normal person. She is so annoying that like maybe it wouldn't like >> How long were they dating?
>> I I don't I don't think they were dating.
>> Oh, they just had a baby.
>> He just threw a baby in it.
>> Cool.
>> You know, >> you speak out about that. Why are you only speaking out when people are saying not nice things about you?
When you really think about it, you just want to speak in broad terms about dehumanization, but you don't really give any examples.
And there are plenty on both sides, one more than the other.
>> I think she gave a pretty good example when we were talking about the people who got fired for celebrating the fact that he got killed. I could give you another one. How about when the Texas flood happened and people celebrated those little girls getting swept away and drowning? How about that?
>> Horrifying.
>> Does that sound like something? Does that sound like a good example?
>> Yeah.
>> That's actually about enough of her. I think >> we're done with her.
>> We're done, dude.
>> Get out of here.
>> All right, that's it. Love you guys.
>> There. Bye.
>> Bye. today.
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