Can Posing Actually Add Muscle and Make You Look More Ripped? Milos Sarcev Explains

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[00:00:00]So, it's a a good time to ask this question because we got Milos, we got Juj and and then we got Morgan who's actually prepping right now. So, we'll start with Milos. Milos, do you think that posing every day you can actually make a difference in your physique like build muscle or have a different look to your body just by posing?

[00:00:20]>> You cannot really build a muscle. That that would be like hard to expect even though there is some possibility if you if you even probably Google it you even find some methods.

[00:00:32]But uh that's the Joe Weider's isotension principle that he made all of us do. Squeeze squeeze squeeze squeeze squeeze pose pose pose pose pose because it's a mind muscle connection. It's a muscular contraction. Now, if it's not mechanical tension and you know, producing hypertrophy it's still uh hyperemia uh metabolic stress and you know, just you know, put it this way if four of us do nothing or now squeeze like a maniacs for an hour.

[00:01:04]Okay? Every single day for a whole month.

[00:01:09]You choose not to squeeze at all, not to pose or do it.

[00:01:14]Obviously, it's physical activity uh muscle contraction. There is more hardening effect than muscle building effect, but there is definitely some kind of effect.

[00:01:25]>> So, hardening effect, what do you mean by hardening effect?

[00:01:28]>> Joe Weider would say exactly in those words.

[00:01:30]Bring striations.

[00:01:33]Hardness. By mus- yeah, muscular contraction. So, put it this way. You seen uh Arnold Schwarzenegger in Pumping Iron or it was a different movie, but when he would squeeze and then he would let's say even in the back double biceps he would exhale and squeeze abs and everything and more details appear.

[00:01:55]If you do most visibly is uh most muscular crab or just a regular most muscular. You can squeeze a little bit more more more more more. And more you squeeze, more you squeeze, more you squeeze, you're going to see hardness and striations coming in.

[00:02:13]>> Okay. Okay. With the look. You know, there's something about the There's something about this being more than a guy who's like half hitting a most muscular shot and is like you could see that he could have striations in the chest, but they're not even like going full full tilt. It really bothers me.

[00:02:27]It's like I'm OCD with people's most muscular sometimes.

[00:02:30]>> But uh you know why? You know, look at how they hit it. They hit it from the shoulders. They don't They don't focus on this.

[00:02:40]I'm serious.

[00:02:41]>> That's pretty good, Milos.

[00:02:43]>> No, they do it. They do it from here.

[00:02:45]You know what I mean?

[00:02:46]>> Yeah, they don't do it from underneath.

[00:02:47]You mean like the chest first?

[00:02:49]>> What I tell my >> No, no, I'm thinking about it.

[00:02:52]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:02:52]>> Okay. Yeah, we're all doing it.

[00:02:53]>> Exactly. But uh Yeah. Try to do the controlled wave.

[00:03:00]From down all the way up. Down all the way up. And then you do it 10 times and 100 times. So, next time when you go into most muscular, you're going to feel it. It's going to all be there.

[00:03:11]But guys are pushing from the shoulders and they don't know how to contract that the chest.

[00:03:17]So, Joe Weider, master blaster, right?

[00:03:19]Back in the day. He would tell us especially most muscular, right? The um uh feathers on the quads. You know, try to just squeeze or squeeze the life out of it.

[00:03:30]And squeeze the life out of it 10 times, 100 times. As Chris Cormier would say, Robby Robinson would make him do 200 times the same pose. Hit the pose. Hit the pose. 200 times.

[00:03:45]>> Really?

[00:03:46]>> So, when you uh hit it 200 times and you get your breathing, check this out. Anybody that is posing, try to hold the breath or exhale the breath completely and then squeeze life out of it. You're going to get more detail, guaranteed.

[00:04:02]>> Mhm.

[00:04:03]>> And that was that principle of Joe Weider, it's called Weider isotension or whatever. Maybe not.

[00:04:09]>> Weider isotension.

[00:04:11]>> Yes, yeah. If you Google it.

[00:04:13]>> [laughter] >> I don't know. I think that's how I remember. That was like 30 years ago.

[00:04:17]>> Yeah. Weider iso >> What do you guys think? What do you guys think?

[00:04:22]>> Well, actually this wasn't a question from a reader. This is a question I asked Antoine. So, thanks Milos.

[00:04:27]This [laughter] is for me personally. I was interested.

[00:04:30]>> Yeah, but but okay. GG, I see you do all kinds of crazy stuff, but then I also see you you are completely in control of every muscle in your body. If you if I now tell you, okay, squeeze the left front delt, can you?

[00:04:46]Left front delt.

[00:04:47]>> Yeah. Well, now this is jumping in.

[00:04:50]>> Okay.

[00:04:51]So, but that's how it is outer triceps, latissimus of the quads. First time I went to the gym, I don't know if I told you guys I told somebody else, I was in a in a gym in Novi Sad in Serbia and some old man, okay, he was 60, I'm 62 now and I don't call myself old.

[00:05:09]He was a gymnast, he was doing behind the neck pull-ups and he did like 50 times having a conversation as he's doing it.

[00:05:18]Right?

[00:05:18]>> [ __ ] >> It got my attention. Then later on, I'm listening for anything that he's saying and he told this guy, you have to be able to fire every muscle like rear delt, you know, outer triceps, you know, latissimus of the quads, hamstring, glute, like at control, at your mind control, you can fire up that one muscle.

[00:05:40]And not too many bodybuilders do that.

[00:05:43]>> Mhm.

[00:05:44]>> So, if you are in control that you can isolate one, like okay, I didn't do this for a while. And same like you GG, I I tried to hit my front out but my chest also fired up.

[00:05:54]I I used to be able to do like one at a time.

[00:05:57]>> There's a difference between trying to contract one muscle in isolation of other muscles versus just trying to hit a pose as hard as you can for reps.

[00:06:06]>> Yeah, yeah. But okay, first if you know how to isolate each muscle, then for sure you can incorporate every muscle every time. Like when we are posing on the stage, you can't isolate one muscle.

[00:06:19]You have to squeeze every muscle every time, right?

[00:06:22]>> Yeah.

[00:06:23]>> I mean, photo shoots back in the day with the Chris Lund. I mean, you do the biceps curls, but it's not biceps that you need to squeeze. You need to flex your abs and chest and, you know, pop the shoulders out and make yourself look good.

[00:06:38]Well, the picture dating for Flex magazine actually got many of us in major shape.

[00:06:45]I'll tell you for Kevin Levrone, 7 days before that Olympia when he placed second to Ronnie when he could have possibly beat him.

[00:06:53]He didn't train a single time, but he had a 4-5 hours of photo shoots a day. There you go.

[00:07:01]Is this Kevin?

[00:07:03]>> No, it's Andy Robertson.

[00:07:04]>> Yeah, another feeling when when we're shooting a YouTube video and we're doing like any sort of exercise and you're shirtless, like a lot of the work is just flexing my abs while I'm doing arms or something. It's not even an arm exercise sometimes cuz it's like damn, I got to you know, cuz it's like you know people are watching it. So it's it's it's a different thing than just like oh, let me try to do a bunch of curls. It's like no, people are looking at you on the internet. They're going to judge you if your guts hanging out. So you better tighten up.

[00:07:30]It's tiring.

[00:07:31]>> You also have to perform some crazy feat of strength.

[00:07:35]Uh I see that's that's great. I never seen this video.

[00:07:40]>> Yeah, it's on YouTube. There's a few of them with Chris Lund actually.

[00:07:43]I heard that Chris Lund would like really force the guys to like use heavy weights and that's how um you know Jean-Pierre Fux actually hurt himself double quad tear or something. And then you could see the shots I think Chris Lund kept taking the shots as he was falling down. It's so crazy.

[00:08:02]>> You can probably find it.

[00:08:03]>> Yeah, I'll go look it up.

[00:08:04]>> sure. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[00:08:05]>> Well, I think there was seven plates.

[00:08:08]Seven plates and uh >> I'll find it >> it pretty quick.

[00:08:11]Um Jean-Pierre Fux quad tear.

[00:08:16]>> Well, Milos, do you have your athletes uh practice posing different amounts during different times of year like off-season versus in-season? Cuz Morgan's about the what you Well, Morgan, you're always prepping. Never mind. You always seem like you're prepping.

[00:08:28]>> I I talked to uh Yeah, there you go.

[00:08:30]Look at that. Look at that.

[00:08:32]>> Oh.

[00:08:32]>> Oh my god.

[00:08:34]>> God. So unfortunate.

[00:08:37]>> You could tell there's a gap right there already.

[00:08:39]>> Oh.

[00:08:39]>> So that that's a real seven plate right here on his back?

[00:08:42]>> Yes, seven plates.

[00:08:44]>> he then he's on the ground and he kept he kept shooting.

[00:08:47]>> [laughter] >> It's a photo shoot accident.

[00:08:49]>> Why would he take pictures of him when he's on the ground?

[00:08:51]>> I mean, yeah, what would you >> Yeah, that's crazy.

[00:08:54]>> I feel like it's really disrespectful for that.

[00:08:56]Yeah, so was that the time he was like he was like they did a photo shoot and then he kind of left the gym and then he got called back?

[00:09:02]And then he did the squat like cold?

[00:09:04]>> Oh, I don't remember.

[00:09:06]>> I thought I watched a podcast and that's the story that he told. It's a horrifying story.

[00:09:11]>> I know.

[00:09:12]>> Did that really happen?

[00:09:14]>> When you so lean for the show and then you do the seven plates. Yeah, uh Chris Lund would make us do as heavy so the facial expression would be real. It's not going to be that you know, like faking it.

[00:09:27]>> Yeah, I know.

[00:09:28]>> That's why he he did it.

[00:09:29]>> Makes sense.

[00:09:31]>> And let me tell you like back in the day I was arguing with the uh Iron Man um Mike Mentzer because he would refuse to take the picture unless you make the stupid face.

[00:09:43]>> Really?

[00:09:43]>> [laughter] >> You Did you refuse one time?

[00:09:47]>> No, yeah, of course, because you you would just want to be normal. I mean, I don't know who trains in a gym like this. Like you you make that stupid face like for 10 consecutive reps. I understand if you make the face, you know, in the last rep or so, but you know, come on.

[00:10:02]You see that Eddie Robinson here? He didn't squeeze the chest striations. You see when he did the most muscular? At the beginning?

[00:10:10]Yeah, that was at the moment he did the most muscular, but you couldn't really see.

[00:10:15]Like think about Hadi Choopan's striation, right? Every fiber. So, as the question was initially, if that Weider iso-tension principle works, I mean, it's been out for like 50-something years. Arnold followed it.

[00:10:32]All those guys back in the day like '60s, '70s, '80s, and they continued in the '90s. I mean, literally, I would squeeze like he owes me money.

[00:10:41]>> This is something that Hany Hany Rambod would kind of do with his athletes as well, right? Like the FST-7 stuff.

[00:10:47]>> And then posing.

[00:10:49]>> Yeah, I think he would do a set and then like and then like hit a shot and like hold the contraction.

[00:10:54]>> Okay, Morgan, if you're my athlete, I would tell you 1 hour after every meal, you have to go to at least three rounds of mandatories.

[00:11:03]>> Yeah.

[00:11:03]>> You know?

[00:11:04]>> That would be a little weird.

[00:11:05]>> 1 hour after the meal, anyway, you kind of almost digest it. Okay, let's say 2 hours ideally postprandial, right? But let's say 1 hour, it's not really in your stomach. You pose three rounds of mandatories, you know, six times a day.

[00:11:19]>> Yeah, they'd a lot. Would you have them do that like the entire prep like starting 16 weeks out, or would that be something that you do closer to the show, or >> All the time. Listen, I never train anybody in my gym that we didn't pose like for at least 20 minutes after the training. All the guys going to tell you and they hate me for it.

[00:11:35]>> Yeah, I but I think if you're not posing after training and prep like what are you doing? Like that if you if you if you pose at any point in day in prep, I think it you should after training should be the one you do it.

[00:11:45]>> So you tell me Morgan, if you wake up in the morning, right? And you check yourself in the mirror, why won't you run yourself through the three rounds of posing on an empty stomach?

[00:11:53]>> Oh no, three three rounds. That's the That's the absolute minimum. Milos, are you doing three rounds a day? Milos, are you doing three rounds a day right now?

[00:12:01]>> Me? I don't know.

[00:12:02]>> [laughter] >> I do once a year. I I check my on my birthday on the January 17th. I'm serious.

[00:12:08]I shave day before and then I go January 17th, pump up like a maniac, take a diuretic and then did those videos. You see my last video?

[00:12:18]>> I did take a diuretic for >> [laughter] >> Listen, if I'm going to do the video once one time a year >> I guess so, yeah. Cuz it's one point off your GFR, that's it.

[00:12:29]>> Is it?

[00:12:30]>> Like >> Yeah, I know.

[00:12:31]>> I mean I can see why you say I don't look so bad. But you never see me turn my back.

[00:12:36]Yeah.

[00:12:37]I don't need to see my back.

[00:12:38]>> That's true.

[00:12:39]>> Yeah.

[00:12:39]>> But you know, just to conclude I do believe that uh Morgan, if you're training for a contest if you really squeeze squeeze squeeze squeeze squeeze every muscle every time three rounds times six meals for two months. How far is your contest?

[00:12:57]>> I'm like 10 and 1/2 weeks out right now.

[00:12:59]>> Yeah, perfect.

[00:13:00]>> Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no I no absolutely I agree with you. I I think posing can only help your physique cuz obviously the more you do something the better you get at it. Contracting your muscles is essentially what separates them. The better you can contract them, the better they're going to separate on stage. You know, not to mention what it's going to do for your waist. Like constantly holding in waist, like holding vacuums, things like that. So no, I I couldn't agree more. I obviously think the more you pose the better you're going to look, the better you're going to present yourself. So it it all works like together, right?

[00:13:28]>> So, Morgan, do you believe that posing every day was going to have an effect on your physique?

[00:13:33]>> Yeah. Morgan, you going to do it? You going to commit? Milos, hold him accountable. Force him to do it.

[00:13:38]>> I pose every day already, but I I could I could definitely do more. There's no doubt about that.

[00:13:44]>> You want to win or you want to be a stage decoration?

[00:13:48]>> I definitely want to win.

[00:13:50]>> Yeah. Yeah, no, I I definitely want to >> Stage decoration doesn't practice posing. And a guy that practice posing, he, you know, believes in himself. He sees every day, improve every day, and he's hungry for it.

[00:14:03]If you don't even want to see yourself pose, what are you doing on the stage?

[00:14:08]>> Yeah. No, I I agree. I know for me, like the last time I competed, like posing was something was a weak point, and then once I establish something as a weak point, I get like really obsessive about it, and that's how I've been over posing. Like I mean, I did a guest posing a couple weeks ago, and like leading into that guest posing, man, I was probably posing like at least 45, 60 minutes every day.

[00:14:28]>> There you go.

[00:14:29]>> It's because like if I know I'm getting on stage in front of people, I'm like I have to like nail it. Like I don't want to make a fool out of myself, so I just like I can't go to bed if I don't do my posing kind of thing. Like, you know what I mean?

[00:14:40]>> Yeah.

[00:14:40]>> I I want to see if I can get under Milos's skin here. Milos, I was looking at some I was looking up different Yeah, I was looking up different um uh looking for different new poses on Instagram, and there's this guy that does like really artistic flowy stuff, but he's always like wearing a full He's usually always wearing like a shirt and pants and stuff. He's always wearing like a shirt and pants and stuff. Yeah.

[00:15:00]Yeah, and he's creative, but I saw Milos in the comment section. Like, Milos is like, "This is not bodybuilding. This is >> I mean, I don't know I don't know who it is, but okay. Let's Let's go openly.

[00:15:12]What is bodybuilding? Okay? Physique contest. And you have to present your physique.

[00:15:18]If you go for the movement and not for physique.

[00:15:22]>> [laughter] >> It's It's wrong sport.

[00:15:24]I mean Antoine poses gracefully. I did some of those moves, but if your movement is attracting more attention than your actual physique, you're doing it wrong. You know, all those guys I mean when it's unnecessary movement, you know, all this kind of thing and then go up and down, change the levels. Like, "Hey, if you're down, hit the few poses." Okay?

[00:15:50]Yeah.

[00:15:52]You see?

[00:15:53]You shouldn't be not wasting move. If arm goes in one direction, it goes and finishes. If I go down, you know, I'm going to do a couple of poses here, you know, cuz I'm already there. Kneeling, what can you do kneeling? Show the back, show this and then up. Then you have to You see, there's no wasted move.

[00:16:17]Raise yourself perfectly. Oh, I didn't pose.

[00:16:21]>> How was your knees there? Your knees felt good going up like that? Did your knees feel good that day?

[00:16:25]>> Yeah, my knees >> Yeah, good. Yeah, cuz it looked like you got up pretty quick.

[00:16:30]>> There's no way I can do this right now.

[00:16:32]>> Well, I was I was I was teaching Morgan like Morgan like don't try to get up slow for your routine. Just use your arms a little bit. Use some momentum.

[00:16:40]>> Yeah, he had me he had me down on the ground for the first time for my last guest posing routine.

[00:16:45]>> Yeah, I helped him out a little bit.

[00:16:46]>> Yeah, but but even you GG, okay, you're a little bit of performer.

[00:16:51]So, maybe even you think that uh posing is about choreography, about movement, about artistic Why?

[00:16:59]This helps, but you're supposed to hit your best poses other than mandatories that you can show your back and chest and shoulders and blah blah blah blah that uh mandatory pose doesn't, you know, make you do it. Like my twisting back shots show my back pretty well, but my back double bicep sucks. Why would I then do back double bicep, but I do three, four twisting back shots, and it looks like, "Oh, muscles are popping.

[00:17:26]Good."

[00:17:27]>> So, you're playing to your strengths.

[00:17:29]>> Yeah.

[00:17:29]>> Yeah, that's the reason it makes sense.

[00:17:31]>> So, anyway, judges, as you wanted to maybe go under my skin, for this guy, he I don't know who it is, but probably he's master poser. But, is master poser or master bodybuilder?

[00:17:43]>> Who is this guy you're talking about?

[00:17:46]>> Jim Manion himself back in the day said, "If posing matters, Roosh Valesto, performer, would be Mr. Olympia."

[00:17:56]>> Right.

[00:17:56]>> was performing this kind of [ __ ] right?

[00:17:58]Okay, it's entertaining, but that's not physique judging.

[00:18:03]Physique judging back in the day was, "Stay there, symmetry round, don't pose, feet together, hands together, so I can assess your physique. Second, give me the poses I I require, seven mandatories, later they added eight. And third round, show me all that you have, the way you want it."

[00:18:24]And then you hit I talked to about this all the time.

[00:18:28]Arnold Schwarzenegger, what he's known for, twisting back, uh the bicep shot, the mantis shot.

[00:18:35]Sergio Oliva, victory, you know, that most muscular, um Serge Nubret, his side front triceps.

[00:18:44]Frank Zane, his classic poses, right?

[00:18:46]Those are legends that you don't remember them with the mandatories.

[00:18:51]You remember Arnold with the front lat spread, side triceps, back lat spread.

[00:18:55]Have you ever seen it?

[00:18:56]>> Mhm.

[00:18:57]>> No.

[00:18:57]>> No, you always think about the three-quarter turn.

[00:18:59]>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:19:00]>> Because they presented what they want judges and audience to see.

[00:19:05]>> I would imagine that there's probably less people on that end of the spectrum than Well, there's probably more of them now because there's more of everything now, but I'd imagine there's probably more people on the side of people who are bodybuilding trying to get big who don't practice any posing.

[00:19:20]>> I know.

[00:19:21]You know, Morgan said perfectly like that was like how do you say it?

[00:19:25]Weakness or something? So, imagine like if football player player weakness is to play football and he goes on the field.

[00:19:33]>> [laughter] >> Yeah.

[00:19:35]You say that Morgan? I don't remember you saying that.

[00:19:37]>> On the stage you're going to pose.

[00:19:39]You're not going to lift.

[00:19:41]>> Yeah.

[00:19:41]>> And GG, if this guy was posing in the clothes clothing, right? That tells you he doesn't even want you to look at his body. He wanted you to look at his movement.

[00:19:52]>> Yes. I talked to so many bodybuilders over the years and guys that still actively compete that even admit that like they don't love the competing aspect itself.

[00:20:02]They they just love the lifestyle, the training, the eating, and but like the competing is the only way to be competitive in what they're doing. So, they do it anyway. And it you know, pushes them to the max like in terms of prep like getting super lean and stuff like that. So, there definitely are a lot of guys who compete that don't necessarily love putting the tan on and and getting on stage, right?

[00:20:18]>> You guys you tell me because you're in shape. When you are ripped and every fiber just pops everywhere.

[00:20:25]I mean, aren't you even like impressed?

[00:20:27]You look at yourself like god damn.

[00:20:29]>> Yeah, nothing better.

[00:20:31]>> And then you hit you hit your you know, a few poses in the mirror. This is what audience is going to see. So, now you start perfecting this each pose, transition. When you get on the stage Morgan, you shouldn't think of a posing routine. You should think of 15 or 20 of your absolutely best poses. If you want to be remembered by okay, this 20 shots.

[00:20:56]Those [ __ ] movements mean nothing.

[00:20:59]Yeah, that was smooth. That was nice.

[00:21:02]That's not the point. Your point IS IMPRESS ME. WOW. Look at that. Wow. So, Antoine was able to do that. I mean, I love his posing routines because he would all this hit the very strong shot and it made sense.

[00:21:17]>> Yeah, this is why I'm learning from him.

[00:21:18]>> Thanks, man.

[00:21:20]>> Yeah. That's on prepping again.

[00:21:21]>> Yeah, I'm going to do a comeback at Milos next year, I think. I'm going to do a Masters Olympia and other shows.

[00:21:27]>> Yeah, there's there's some good shows coming up spring next year.

[00:21:31]Yeah.

[00:21:31]>> You have everything, Antoine.

[00:21:33]You are hashtag bodybuilder, okay? I said you have a size and shape and width and thickness and crazy body part and fibers all over the place.

[00:21:43]>> Yeah, the fibers. I like the fibers moving. This is why I love when people pose and you can see like even if you're if you're far from the guy and you see them hit a pose and you see like waves of fibers going across their bodies, you're like, "Holy shit." Even if they're not as big, I find it like more impressive than a guy who just has a crazy fullness on stage and doesn't have striations. That's That's just me, though. But then when you have bulk, you have like Crezo who hits a crab at Pittsburgh. I was the person. I was like, "Whoa, what the fuck?" You were You were so crazy when you when you get bulk and mass and the striations, that's like something else.

[00:22:18]But uh for me, I believe that for me, I think it does make a difference in your body, but in the sense that I think I get leaner faster when I pose every day.

[00:22:27]So, that's one one way that I find that I If I put my heart rate on even when I was posing with Flex Wheeler and stuff and then when I do the rounds by myself or whatever, somebody was counting you or somebody else counts the poses, like, "One, two."

[00:22:41]It's a quarter to the right and then you hold this, front double bicep, hold it tight, waist, this, that. And then if somebody corrects you, you do rounds and rounds, your my heart rate would go up to like really high. I would be burning more calories than walking on a treadmill.

[00:22:55]Yeah. So, for me, I would get leaner faster.

[00:22:58]>> Of course, just think of of expenditure.

[00:23:02]If you don't do nothing or you squeeze like a maniac. Like, this doesn't cost me anything.

[00:23:07]Right?

[00:23:08]It costs.

[00:23:09]You know, every single contraction for sure.

[00:23:12]>> Milos, how often like when you would practice posing, how often would you do it in front of a mirror versus not in front of a mirror?

[00:23:19]>> Uh you know, preferably in front of a mirror. Look, I made my guys uh don't look in the mirror. You know, because you know, yeah, I would want them to pose for me because they're not going to have a mirror on the stage. Mhm. But uh yeah, at home like I would let them see.

[00:23:35]Example uh when uh uh I went with Chris Aceto for Andrew Jack last not this Arnold Classic but previous one.

[00:23:44]And uh I was uh going rounds of posing with him. He could never look in the mirror.

[00:23:50]And I asked Chris Aceto. I mean, he was nailing it. Like, he was like unbelievable. He looked crazy good crazy good crazy good.

[00:23:59]He says Aceto was making the the the uh you know, basically a statement that now, you know, he improved so much and he's going to just nail it on the stage. But on the stage, he kind of didn't hit it correctly.

[00:24:14]>> Yeah.

[00:24:14]>> So then I I I wish that maybe when he saw in the mirror and he knows exactly what he looks like, maybe there is advantages to seeing it in the mirror.

[00:24:24]>> Got you.

[00:24:24]>> You know.

[00:24:25]>> Well, there's also the thing that when you're practicing, the judges are down there.

[00:24:29]>> Yeah.

[00:24:30]>> They're there. So, you got to know how to angle yourself so that they can see that. I have a question for you.

[00:24:36]I'm having fun with this. Milos, I got a question for you.

[00:24:39]When you're in your prime, were you pretty equally good at doing all the poses on both sides? Like, could you hit a side try on both sides, side chest on both sides? Or did you just like stick to one side?

[00:24:50]>> I stick to one side. But you see, when I competed in that AAU WPF Mr. Universe, there was a side chest both sides, side chest at both sides.

[00:25:00]Yeah, as I didn't practice and I did it first time in my life on the stage like, "Oh, what do you mean left side?"

[00:25:08]>> It feels weird.

[00:25:09]>> Yes, completely weird. But I'll tell you this, some of the guys that only do one side and I tell them, "For a hell of it, do the other side." And actually it looks better.

[00:25:20]>> Mhm.

[00:25:20]>> They don't feel comfortable because they didn't do it, but uh you know, you can have a more hanging hamstring on one side or fuller fuller arm.

[00:25:31]I encourage everybody to see it. Even though you're not comfortable, check out the other side.

[00:25:37]>> I flip-flopped on the side chest early early on until I chose the right side.

[00:25:42]By the way, this guy is blind.

[00:25:44]>> What?

[00:25:45]>> Oh, really?

[00:25:46]>> Yeah, yeah, this guy posing is blind.

[00:25:47]>> him. I know him. Yeah.

[00:25:49]>> You know Ricky Welling?

[00:25:51]>> Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he he was training partner of Eddie Abbew.

[00:25:55]>> Oh, really? From the UK?

[00:25:58]>> UK, yeah. And he was in Romania 2006 competing.

[00:26:03]I was MCing that show.

[00:26:06]Yeah.

[00:26:07]>> Was this guy a pro?

[00:26:08]>> Yeah.

[00:26:09]>> Oh, wow. That's awesome.

[00:26:11]>> Yeah, how do you I wonder if like you get lost sometimes.

[00:26:14]I guess no, you like Does he Maybe I wonder if he sees like this the stage lights very dim or he's fully blind.

[00:26:22]I don't know. Yeah.

[00:26:23]But it says he's blind. So, and I saw another one actually uh at in Montreal live. It was actually a good a good competitor.

[00:26:34]Focus the blind bodybuilder. No.

[00:26:37]Um I don't know where he is.

[00:26:41]>> Interesting.

[00:26:42]>> Blind bodybuilder right here.

[00:26:44]>> Blind powerlifting.

[00:26:46]>> I don't know.

[00:26:47]>> Cosmic coach.

[00:26:49]Oh. Yeah, but it's not the same cuz you don't need a >> Yeah, parallel thing that's like I mean, it's still kind of It's not as important.

[00:26:57]>> a little bit, I guess, but um not as much.

[00:27:00]>> of bodybuilding is going to be like you got to get on stage and pose and Oh, another question.

[00:27:05]>> Yeah. [laughter] >> I mean, they're just going to hate I got too many questions.

[00:27:08]>> it.

[00:27:09]>> All right.

[00:27:10]>> it. Spice it up some more.

[00:27:12]>> So, you know when you're trying to like, you know, you know, talk about like contracting the muscle like this? So, you're going to get a better effect if the muscle starts at an even more relaxed state, right? So, if you're like fully relaxed before you contract and hit that full peak. So, I know this is kind of like roundabout, but would have you noticed anything with bodybuilders that get a lot of massage work done able to actually pose better because it loosens them up?

[00:27:40]>> Jay Cutler was he's helped by that and increases separation. This guy I forgot the name um from Orange County and um Murphy, Steve Murphy. He would he would fly like twice a week at least to see him and he would dig in between you see how you have a medialis lateralis and those deep lines? And he would dig deep.

[00:28:06]>> He'd fly to that twice a week?

[00:28:08]>> Yeah, he did twice a week, yeah.

[00:28:09]>> I thought that I thought just cuz he lived in Las Vegas, you know, there's just a lot of I mean, there's a lot of massage places in Las Vegas, man.

[00:28:17]>> But he trusted the guy. Look there's a uh that's active release technique.

[00:28:23]Right? Uh Mike Leahy, Dr. Mike Leahy is the one that invented and Charles Poliquin back in the day asked me to come there and let him do my shoulder and there was a miracle right there. But then he says, "Okay, let's test something." He says, "I guarantee you Dr. Leahy can split your biceps in half." Like, "What do you mean?" And And he was doing these deep massages between two heads of the bicep group.

[00:28:50]And then I took a picture and you can see clearly like all of a sudden he separated it.

[00:28:55]>> Your bicep?

[00:28:57]>> Yeah, my biceps. And there are pictures of it.

[00:28:59]You can maybe even Google it, you know, there was uh active release technique.

[00:29:04]>> So you had two uniceps.

[00:29:09]>> You know how beautiful it is when the the you stretch your your stretch your biceps and you can see both heads.

[00:29:16]And I know normally don't have it.

[00:29:18]And I had it on that picture. Like holy [ __ ] >> So so do you did you ever do any of that this type of active release work during your career? Like when you're competing?

[00:29:29]>> Yeah, I had a um Dr. uh Higuera in uh Fullerton, but I I was I I was going I'm not going to say once a week, but twice a month easily.

[00:29:40]And then I took everybody. I took uh Dennis James there and you know, uh other guys that were that were coming.

[00:29:47]>> It would take an entire session to just do the man's shoulders.

[00:29:50]>> [laughter] >> Morgan, do you get any uh this type of work done?

[00:29:53]>> Yeah, the the only work I get done is deep tissue. I really don't find anything else effective to be honest with you like when it comes to acupuncture or like um find Yeah.

[00:30:03]>> That's uh that's Chad Bodkin or Dennis James.

[00:30:07]>> Yeah. Wait, isn't that you in the background? Oh, yeah, it is.

[00:30:10]>> Yeah, it was.

[00:30:11]>> Look look look at the computer.

[00:30:13]>> Yeah.

[00:30:17]>> That's cool.

[00:30:18]>> Anyway, I know that being more flexible have more mobility uh you actually pose better and it just your body feels better and you might have actually more definition because everything is like you're able to rotate your elbows more on your back double for example. So you maybe your back is firing more. So I'm pretty sure that massages, flexibility, mobility is actually helping. And you just have like a really good stretch for a back lat spread.

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