Why Lucy Letby WON'T Speak to ANYONE in Prison – Amanda Knox

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[00:00:00]Is there part of you that thinks maybe When when we get into this morality and then there's law and I suppose I'm asking you or can you be 100% sure that she's innocent and really we just need to we need to know it or can you be 100% sure she's guilty and if not or can you at least be 99% or 95% and if not then you can't send her to prison for the rest of her life I suppose. But then there's the that's the legal side of it.

[00:00:22]Then there's the aspect of you and me as journalists in this case >> Yeah. speaking about it when there are mothers who are grieving babies who want closure who want to know this is the person that did it and and that's when you sort of need to go okay well how sure are we that she's actually innocent and and would you this is a horrible question I'm going to ask. Okay, great. Let's go. Give it to me.

[00:00:43]>> it's why you know why not I suppose it's a horrible question but but but would you know if you were having another child would would and you knew that Lucy Letby was was going to be the nurse at that hospital would you take your would you do it there?

[00:00:57]I mean I wouldn't go to the Countess of Chester Hospital for sure but if it was at a proper hospital I think the evidence that has revealed about the quality of care that Lucy Letby was giving to those children was that she was highly qualified and there isn't evidence to suggest that she intentionally harmed any of these babies. So yeah I would I would trust my baby in Lucy Letby's care. That's quite something. Yeah I mean here's the thing like I again as a journalist I like to try to be the kind of person who is not going to make definitive claims that I can't back up.

[00:01:35]But I've had a lot of interaction with the the characters that are bringing forth the the evidence in this case including Dr. Dewi Evans including Dr. Sue Lee the international the head of the international panel and I have found that the process by which Dr. Sue Lee and his panel arrived at their very thorough conclusions about this case.

[00:02:09]Their approach was far more scientific and careful than the process by which the medical experts brought testimony in court.

[00:02:21]And I have reason to be concerned about the motivations of the medical experts that were brought to court.

[00:02:34]Have you spoken to Lucy can one speak to somebody in such a >> can one can I have not principally because it is my understanding that she doesn't want to talk to anyone at this point.

[00:02:45]>> Huh. And I appreciate that because it's an overwhelming existential crisis situation and she knows I presumably that anything she says or does is likely going to be used against her. I I know I certainly have felt that even in the years after my acquittal and release and exoneration all of that like there is still I think an impulse for people to find fault in me and to look at me and what I do in the wrong or in a sort of guilt presumptive light and so I appreciate I appreciate honestly her attorneys position that the focus of this case shouldn't be on her and her personality or what she you know what she's going through in prison it should be on the evidence because that's ultimately what matters and so I I wanted to respect that that that said I've absolutely reached out to her and I think of the kinds of journalists who are out there I can appreciate her position much more than others and like and also my position about how I feel about her guilt and innocence has evolved over the course of the investigation like I've been burned before like I've ad like I've strongly advocated for people who I believed to be innocent only to have done a more thorough analysis of the case and revealed that I was wrong. And so in going into investigating this case knowing that there was going to be medical evidence and statistical evidence and knowing that I am an expert in neither of those things I was wary of taking any kind of strong stance and ultimately like I agreed to sort of get into this case because I was more interested at in the beginning of how this story of a serial killer woman was making the rounds in the media and also you know why is it that her case is the one that is just blowing up in the public imagination and not the case of say another contemporaneous nurse who was accused of killing patients that nobody cares about and nobody heard about because it's a man. Ah. Like you know in 2015 there was another nurse that was found to have been killing patients here in the UK. He was found guilty all of that.

[00:05:20]Insulin poisoning you never heard of him and nobody heard of him because he's not a woman.

[00:05:26]And so for me I was >> Babies is the is quite Yes and babies is also emotionally charged but I think that it ultimately comes down to here is a young attractive woman who is being accused of a heinous crime.

[00:05:41]Now what truth is there to that and why is it that we are so so enamored of the idea of young attractive women murdering people. Is there a part of you do you think even subconsciously maybe you've not even thought about it that maybe thinks by by showing that she's innocent it furthers because there are people who still don't believe you >> Mhm. that it furthers your own case in some respect look guys on an international level famous big case it's often not actually the attractive young woman who who did this.

[00:06:15]That's an interesting thought. I mean of course I can't rule out any subconscious things cuz they're subconscious but I think that when I look at Lucy Letby's case it's very different than my own in the sense that like her case is more typical of again like I said women women's wrongful conviction cases where there is the mistaken idea that a crime occurred when in fact none occurred.

[00:06:43]Like that is that is a very you know probable scenario in this case. And that the reason why how and why these babies died has a more um you know natural and nevertheless tragic explanation that doesn't have anything to do with intentional harm. In my own case there is no question that someone intentionally harmed my roommate. The problem was that they went after the wrong people. Mhm. And so in that way our cases are extraordinarily different and I think that in in that case my case is actually a lot easier because we know who who raped and murdered my roommate.

[00:07:28]Like he he went to prison for it just because the Italian justice system didn't find him fully accountable doesn't mean that the evidence doesn't speak for itself. He broke into our house and he raped and murdered my roommate.

[00:07:41]Period. Um in in the cases of crimes that never occurred you have to prove that a crime didn't occur which is a very different kind of fact-finding process and it's a lot more difficult which I think is one of the reasons why there are so few wrong exonerated women because so often our cases are circumstantial that it's not about just doing the DNA and discovering oh the evidence at the crime scene actually points to this guy who has a history of breaking and entering.

[00:08:13]>> Yeah. And you know aggression towards women as in my case right like DNA is all over the crime scene and it tells a very specific tale no no matter what you know the conspiracy theorists will continue to claim.

[00:08:25]>> And there will be some in the comments.

[00:08:26]>> Well you know what enjoy that.

[00:08:28]>> [laughter] >> I don't worry about it anymore in fact like I'm I'm weirdly at this point in my life where I'm kind of over it.