In democratic politics, the distinction between legitimate ambition (seeking power through ethical means to implement policies) and greed (using unethical tactics like pressuring opposition members, exploiting enforcement agencies, and party poaching to gain power) is crucial for maintaining institutional integrity and democratic governance.
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BJP’s ‘362 Seats’ Push: Vivek Srivastava Vs Shazia Ilmi Vs Piyush Joshi Face Off
Added:So viewers, PJP wants 362. What's wrong with that?
I want to know. PJP wants 362. They want two 2/3 majority. Is that bad? It is.
You are nowhere. You don't have a single MP in parliament.
H Vive CPI does not have a single MP in parliament. There was a time when people used to say I started my career by reporting on the left parties. I used to go to AJ Bhavan, I used to go to AJ Bhavan, there was Indrajit Gupta there, there was Ma Farooqi there, there was Atul Kumar Anjan there and there was a very junior D Raja there. Now at that point of time it was told to me that on the day will come when there will be more stories or floors in Ajay Bhavan than MPs of the CPI. I used to laugh.
I said no it's not possible. AJ Bhan is a eightstory building there has to be at least eight MPs. I never thought Shaza I never thought the day will come when AJ Bhan politically will be to the ground raised to the ground. They don't have a SINGLE MP LEFT. THE PARTY EXISTS ONLY TO SEND to parliament. No, no. My point is one minute, one minute. One minute. One minute. One minute. One minute. My point is Vive. My point is Vive. If you have a very ambitious Amita working with a very ambitious Narendra Modi to have a very ambitious number in parliament. What is wrong with that?
Suppose there is a student in your class who comes first and says I always want to come first. Is there anything wrong with that?
>> Yes. Yes. Now I'll >> Is there anything wrong with that?
>> You do have Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm coming to it parliament and even the recent India alliance meeting it was attended by a member of Rajya Sabhab Santo to that the first part and the second part is I mean the if you want to increase your tally in the parliament nothing wrong in it provided you are doing it ethically you did not win those seats despite the election commission backing you up going all all over to help you out in whatever way they could targeting the opposition parties there's nothing wrong if you want to get it honestly don't do it dishonestly Don't try to use your ED and the CBIS and buying over of the what you have done with Aadi party. There are several member parliament you don't cut >> enforcement directed. No listen listen to me Shazia. Give me give me 10 seconds then you respond.
>> No no no.
>> You you you sent the ED to one gentleman from Aadb party. You harass him and 3 days later the so-called accused of the ED joins the BJP. Another member of Hamadi party you send the ED. The fellow decides not to join the BJP. He's in jail. So I mean we know what your game is congress I don't support congress I I oppose congress and >> I want to answer very valid question >> but then you have no right to break the party the way you're doing it is UNETHICAL YOU'RE TARGETING EVERY SINGLE MLA every single child every single person this is not one MINUTE ONE MINUTE AND COME YOU'RE most welcome >> one minute one one minute just one just these are all mature adult men and in.
Okay. Nobody's forcing anyone.
>> Of course, people are being forced. They are being victimized. You're breaking parties and you're breaking parties the wrong way.
>> See, if Rahul Gandhi 40 seats, >> if Rahul Gandhi's politics, I'll tell you one thing, nothing disrespecting these people. I am told there is a political leader from Uttar Pradesh who nowadays spends more time in Sant Lopez in the south of France looking after his health than in the hurly balia of Uttar Pradesh politics. There is another leader who spends more time with the 8 cr scuba diving kit including private planes and drones scuba diving in the Anderman and Nicobar Islands. Now you tell me if that is the politics that you are doing. If you're busy scuba diving and holidaying in Sanropes in France, do you think Amita will sit here and do nothing about it? Be realistic. No, >> I I >> No, no. Be Now, I really want to get the other side now. Shazia, Shaza, Shazia, what are you people up to? One minute.
Shaza, Shazia, please tell everyone tonight.
>> What What are you up to? And Kaju, people say now no news comes from BJP.
What are you people trying to do? Why are you breaking anyone? They have only nine MPs. After that also you want to take seven. Why do you want to humiliate them so much?
Why are you after them?
all your viewers you know these are very relevant questions and I think my answer uh to what Jam Romesh has insinuated >> yes >> and created a spin on must be must be must be answered straight I'm not squeamish about it my party is not we our loyalty is to our manifesto to our ideology and to our promise to our voters and and if we getting seven more MPs in Rajya Sabha because of Ragav Chhatra coming in which increases my chances of having the women reservation bill enacted I think it's a great thing and we should do more of that and if BJP is committed and is indeed committed and you talked about the ambition of Narendra Modi and Amisha what about ambition for India so what if they're ambitious and the ambition for India you believe in people that we have to HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE BACK US AND HAVE THE ACTS IN SERVE MY COUNTRY WILL SERVE MY COUNTRY.
SO, SO WHATEVER AND I'M NOT saying >> I'm not saying that the corruption cases must go away. No, they should not. BUT THE FACT of the matter is that BJP is loyalty to his is is Bard Dhara to our ideology to what we stand for and our manifest makes it very clear there is never any dillydallying on it as you've seen in other parties. So when Jam Romesh says it he ising the waters he knows when he refers to April April 17th he's talking about women's reservation bill which THEIR PARTY WITH A OBSESSIVE Rahul Gandhi talking about women sashikar and women saktikar and you know about it because you are the one who interviewed him imagine that same Rahul Gandhi and his party is blocking the women's bill let me finish NO YOU CAN COME IN I THIS IS my I'm the official spokesperson for BJP so I just want to make The last point here before others say what they have to say. You are portraying delimitation as some sinister political conspiracy. The fact of the matter is that delimitation is anyway going to happen. IT IS VERY CLEAR UNDER ARTICLE 81 AND 82 and that representation and Lok Sabha must reflect polit population realities. So when you conflate the two and try to be too clever by half see where that gets you. People can see through the spin you know weaving that is going on. The fact of the matter is TMC versus TMC and if the parties ARE SO BREAKABLE, SO MALLEABLE, then it says a lot about the character of of those parties and their MLAs and their MPs. It says a lot about them. And if you're getting numbers which help us pass through important bills, you see I am you don't know.
>> So you're saying that you're you're saying that you're doing all this.
>> You're saying that you're doing all this to pass the women's reservation bill.
>> Okay. P is responding. P they are saying actually it's true because the BJP was not getting so aggro with you guys before the loss on the women's bill after they lost the women's bill on the delimitation issue. They got very aggro and they are breaking everyone. They are saying see we don't have the numbers we can't pass what we want.
One question you know what was the 106th amendment act of the constitution on women's reservation act 2023 above what did they pass in 2023 if it is not the women's reservation bill so we opposed it to implemented ma'am no I heard you patiently I DID NOT INTERRUPT I DID NOT INTERRUPT YOU ma'am >> I can do IT BETTER >> I DID NOT INTERRUPT you so please please have the patience to Hear me out.
>> My bad. Sorry.
>> So, you know, so when you're when you're trying to acquire, you know, there's a difference between being ambitious and being greedy. So, that is that is where the problem lies. You know, ambition is fine. Greed isn't. Let me explain why.
When you're trying to acquire that 2-3 majority, let us wonder what has happened in Manipur. Let us wonder what is the environmental cost of the helping your crony capitalist friends. Let us wonder about the rising inequality. Let us wonder about the GP. LET US WONDER ABOUT IT THE INCOME if you if you can't wonder about that what are you going to talk about when you're talking about being ambitious about India suffering for the cost for you know just allow the institution election commission you know don't force them into doing something JUST ALLOW THEM TO IN FACT, I SAID YOU'RE USING THEM AS TOOLS. PLEASE DON'T. THEY are independent. Please don't. But I I I I wish to I wish to ask you one question.
I wish to ask you one question. One question.
I have a question. I have a question.
And my question
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