Animated Star Wars series can achieve exceptional character depth by exploring the psychological complexity of villains, revealing their humanity and motivations beyond traditional good-versus-evil narratives. The series 'Maul: Lord of Shadows' demonstrates this by portraying Darth Maul not merely as a one-dimensional antagonist but as a complex character with a tragic backstory, moments of vulnerability, and nuanced motivations that challenge viewers' perceptions of villainy. This approach allows animated productions to expand the Star Wars universe in ways that live-action films cannot, providing deeper character exploration while maintaining the franchise's core themes of conflict and redemption.
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[music] [music] [music] [music] Good evening. It's been a while since I've seen you all here. How are you? It's been quite a while since the end of Stranger Things, I mean, 3 months or three and a bit months without doing a single live stream here on the channel, and I was thinking about whether to make a video about this or do a live stream, and I said, "No, no, this needs to be broken down, discussed with friends, because we're all amazed by this series that many people, unfortunately, are possibly missing out on and don't know what they're missing."
Well, now our friend Mark will join us. Uh, no, Mar, no, damn it, not again. Mar, our friend Joan is here. Okay, he'll join right away.
And here we have our friend Iñigo.
Good night, uncle. Thank you for being here today, we're back on the channel.
Yes, thank you for inviting me and greetings to everyone. Indeed, many people aren't talking about this series the way they should be, are they?
But the fact is that everyone who sees it is convinced and falls for it. I haven't seen anyone saying this series is crap. No not at all. The few people I've seen talking about her always have good things to say, and that means something.
Honestly, nobody has the absolute truth and everyone has different tastes, as I always say, but I think you can't say that. It's one thing to not like animation and for this not to appeal to you, but I think you can't say that this series is bad, I mean, it's impossible, man. And now we'll talk about everything and break it down. And finally debuting for the damn time, I was already looking forward to having the personal Jesus Christ of YouTube and more importantly, my friend and colleague Mar Balaguer, come by.
[laughs] What's up, dude? Thank you for being here today. Good night.
How are you? Well, I'm delighted, mate.
Delighted. When you told me, I said, "Look, that's great, because I haven't had time yet to make the video of the last two. I'll do it for tomorrow." And hey, what a great series, huh. And well, we'll talk here today, right? A little bit of why maybe she's kind of unknown, right? And it's not a product that reaches a lot of people, but it's tremendous. I mean, I had a great time watching it. I think it was a good decision to do two episodes a week because we had more, we had more than 20 minutes of episodes and well, and the ending was a total disaster, so no, and besides, Disney usually plays very well with the dates because either they release a special about something or, as in this case, the series ended on Star Wars Day, so in that sense it was brilliant. From what you're saying, don't worry, Mar, because, I mean, this month is turning out to be something else, you know? It's been [ __ ] crazy, man, huh.
Yes, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Everything that's coming out is crazy.
Today the trailer for The Odyssey was also released. I, who am completely overwhelmed with moving and all, haven't been able to react either. I don't know if I'll record anything yet, even if it's late, a mini reel, something, but everything that's coming out is crazy. And oh, and this Friday, which by the way, my friend and I are going to see together, Mortal Kombat 2, I mean, crazy, crazy. Yes, yes, yes.
Okay, let's start by talking a little bit about feelings and more general impressions, then getting into the series itself and what it has to offer, and getting your specific opinion, okay? And from your feelings. If you want to set things up a bit for a second season, well, that's fine too, okay? We're going to talk about different characters, different points, but in a somewhat general way. Iñigo, we'll start with you.
Tell us what happened afterward, for example, did you expect something from this series and did you find a surprise or something?
Well, let's see, I was confident that the series would be good, I mean, we're coming from Bathbatch, which has been a very good series, maybe the second season was better than the third, but Bathbatch has been very good. Overall, all the Tales of the Jedi, Tales of the Empire, and Tales of the Jedi specials have been cool. So, they had been on a good run for a while with the animation. There was no reason to think it was suddenly going to get worse, was there? It's just that you can tell they've put in, I don't know if money, I'm sure they have too, but care and dedication to making a very, very well-crafted product, right? A very carefully crafted production. So, I wasn't expecting much, I was confident it would be good and indeed it has been. I liked it for many reasons. I liked it because of the animation, I liked it because of the photography, because it's very well thought out, people think that because they're cartoons there's no photography, right? Of course there are a lot of decisions about how to light it, how to, well, how to present the characters, a lot of artistic decisions, the soundtrack, the action, which is really amazing, there are many times when the fights are spectacular, the movements feel very real and even though they are animated and I really liked the criminal police vibe.
I really liked the whole underground scene and stuff, the gangsters fighting amongst themselves, the police and all that, and the whole thing about the empire being scary, because the empire is scary here, and also, in fact, I think it's taken things from Andor when it comes to portraying fascism, like how normal people in the Star Wars movies are like robots, not robots, but you know what I mean, they're shooting each other and the Imperials are ridiculous, right? Here, ordinary people, people on the street, are confronted by soldiers and stormtroopers, and you're terrified.
Having an Imperial Star Destroyer over your city is no joke, and they turn everything into a police state at full speed. So that feeling of danger, of risk, that the protagonists are really screwed, they've conveyed it very, very well. Yes, mainly because of what you were saying, because I did see how the series, that concept, was getting diluted, but not in a bad way. Uh, the whole police thriller thing and all that, uh, or the mafia vibe, it's true that the first few episodes, guys, are a blast, and it really suits it because I think this planet, Janx, I think it's called, was invented for the series, but it has a touch of Coruscan without being the same as Coruscan, and the fact that it's such a brightly lit planet, with so much LED or neon light and a more somber atmosphere, all this stuff you were saying about the Empire, which is something that's always very evident in this era of Star Wars because this series, if I remember correctly, takes place, I think, between seasons 2 and 3 of The Badbat Batch, that is, a year or two after Order 66, so the Empire thing is all very recent, those suits and everything, and I think that helps the atmosphere, it really helps with what you were saying about the Empire, and I'm thinking about this at a certain point... Besides, which we'll talk about now, the inquisitors, because these inquisitors— and we've seen some great things about inquisitors, especially in animation— but these inquisitors really do exude the fear they're meant to inspire. So, we'll now talk about Marrock and the Crow [clears throat] because they've been brutal.
Mark, what about you? tell me.
Well, I was a little scared because I kind of had a feeling it wasn't going to be a hit in terms of viewership. I mean, I kind of knew it. I don't know if I had a preconceived notion or if it's just how it is with these kinds of shows, but I was a little worried because this series exists simply to try and play on nostalgia and say, "Okay, let's do something that works." Mall works, but no, no, I mean, Dave Filoni uses Mall here the same way he did in Rebels. I mean, he uses him sensibly and he uses him following the character's development.
He's a character that doesn't really offer much more.
That said, I think this series hasn't given us anything new about Mall, you know? I mean, we knew they were involved with the syndicates, we know Mall's story perfectly well, they've just repeated it here, but we know it. I mean, he was taken from where he was by Palpatine. Palpatine betrayed him, I mean, he killed his brother. I mean, the whole thing We know Mall's story. What he's contributed here is that he's interested in having an apprentice, but that's it. So, it's really been a story of... No, I don't entirely agree with you, Mark. And only for one point I wanted to discuss with you guys during the live stream.
If there's one thing I've liked that Filoni has done here with Mall, it's that, obviously, despite being consumed by revenge and the dark side, he's shown us that he has a heart, man.
Because I never thought I'd see Mall crying, man, never.
And we've seen him here recreating that origin story of when Darsius takes him, right? Where that comes from, man, it seemed really amazing to me for a guy who, in the end, what we've had of him, mainly all these years, is the bad guy, that's it, it was explored a little more in Rebels, but bad, bad.
Of course, of course. But that, I mean, that's cool because he was actually expelled from the Sith, right? Let's say, the Sith is a club of two People. So, he was expelled, replaced, presumed dead. So, of course, leaving that dark environment, well, he's still a villain and a traitor, because in these last episodes we saw how he was protecting Devon and Daky, he was protecting them, telling them, "Okay, just go." And he stayed behind fighting and it was like, "Damn, he's prioritizing saving Jadais over himself." But it's all part of his plan. He intended for what happened to happen, which is to get rid of him. If Vader didn't get Daky, he would, but his goal was to keep Devon, right? So, we do see a more empathetic side to the character, maybe because he's no longer in that SIF environment, but at the same time he's still in the worst part of the galaxy, in the crime syndicates, and he's a traitor, I mean, all he wants is revenge.
Perfect explanation that You just said it, Mar, because I also think that's the interesting point Maul brings to this series, it's that interplay, that balance. We know what he is, as you say, and besides, at no point does he try to whitewash it. I mean, he's the protagonist, well, or rather, he's a... how is it? I mean, maybe the protagonist is the girl, Devon, but anyway, let's say the series is called Maul, he's the one who's in it, the one who draws attention, and it's not like, "Now I'm going to be good," or "Now it turns out I like dogs," no, no, he's still a [ __ ] bastard. It's just that he's our [ __ ] bastard, right? There's something I really like that I think is only hinted at, it's not really verbalized much, I mean, it's mentioned a couple of times, but just briefly.
Surely it will be explored more in the second season because this one has really been non-stop. It's a 10-episode story, not 10 episodes with different stories, right? It's a 10-episode river story that... They've stopped. I imagine that with one in the second season, there will be an episode dedicated to a character or a mission or something like that. But there's one thing I really like: Maul is a villain in a traditionalist way. We're the ones, we're the bad guys and all that, and what they've come here with, what the empire has set up, is just office fascism, right? They've set up, they've come here to assemble all the troops, to put everything in place, to make sure everyone's wearing their membership card, all that political stuff. He says, "Damn, this isn't what I enlisted for. I enlisted to do my evil deeds, my witchcraft, and my things, not for this fascist nonsense, so to speak, right?" Hm.
Yes, because he doesn't sense that he's annoyed by how Palpatine came to power and how he's there and the network he's created throughout the galaxy, and that it's not his thing, that it's not what he was sold.
Yes, in the end it is, I mean, it's what I was saying, I mean, he's a character who has a very basic instruction manual, as Mark mentioned, and that's true, but I don't know, personally I think that's the interesting point that this series has brought to his character, beyond other things and other characters, it's the fact of especially how to portray that way in which he manipulates, plays, and seeks a path towards his interests, obviously making a path towards what is the criminal underworld against all the mobsters of Star Wars. Yes, I mean, we know what it is, but I absolutely loved the game up until that final chapter. I mean, how he lets Devon escape, how he then keeps an eye on her, how he then interferes even at key moments when the empire starts to intervene, how he helps them, what you've said. I mean, I was watching it and although I obviously knew where Mou was going with it, in fact I have a picture that perfectly defines it that I'll post later from the last episode, uh, damn, it was cool to see that feeling of saying, damn, I hadn't seen this side of M, no, that even though I know what the bastard is doing it for, he's protecting the Jedi. Yes, with an evil purpose too, but he is protecting them. I don't know, I like that game during the series. But it's cool, it's cool because here it's like Mall is a, I said it in a live stream a few weeks ago, like a kind of gray Siath, right? In other words, he's not a gray Jedi, but he is a gray Siath, that is, like a Sith who has broken free from the rule of two and is forging his own path. In fact, it's very interesting to see this mall and compare it to the Rebels mall, which is the last mall we're going to see chronologically, right? Because the Rebels mob still has that corrupting point because it wants to corrupt Ezra, but it's no longer from the Sith perspective, that is, it's now a completely outsider perspective of the Force, and saying, look, this whole Jedi thing is nonsense and you really have to be above this, right? And many things can be done on top of this. So it's cool to see that path because right now he's kind of preoccupied with union stuff, but this has to end with him in a lonely, hermit-like mall, and kind of the opposite nemesis of the opposite nemesis, if you'll pardon the redundancy, Obi-Wan's nemesis. I mean, he's going to become Obi-Wan's nemesis. By the way, now that you mention it, he does mention it in the episode, man, at that moment I told you about. I do n't know if you remember when he's lying down, looking at his reflection, remembering things, and he says, well, he doesn't say Obi One, but exactly, he says no and so on. I mean, dude, we'll talk about fan service later, but fan service is cool in itself, but when they do it well and at good moments, like that moment when Mall is so vulnerable, damn, dude, I remember hearing it and I was like, wow, I mean, wait, wait, I mean, hold on, at least it's going to seem like a [laughs] something, I mean, a memory of him, something.
But, but what is fan service? So, saying that having Star Wars characters appear in a Star Wars series is fan service. Having a character remember their past is fan service, not narrative. The appearance of Vader.
We'll talk about that now. I understand, all of that is fan service, but it's fan service. In other words, the term "fan service" needs to be properly defined in terms of whether it exists, or is not, trying to find the precise words. Uh, the final scene of Rock One is fan service.
This Kenobi thing here is fan service. Hm. I mean, there are many things that are fan service, but within the saga, well, I'm going to say, it's like, it's like, you're watching Lord of the Rings and suddenly it plays, that's fan service because I love the song, it's very difficult to define.
Yes, but then there's poorly inserted fan service because I'm not going to open that can of worms here now, and focusing on Star Wars we can talk, I mean, we could talk for example about Dark Sidious in The Rise of Skywalker. But that's not fan service, that's just them throwing papers up in the air and whoever landed on them caught them.
No, exactly. Exact.
The problem is that many of them are not here, Joan is here and we haven't been able to. [clears throat] We're deep into the conversation. [laughs] Now I was going to give it to him. Joan, good evening, welcome, uncle.
Hello good evening. No, I was hoping you would finish the section or part you were supposed to be discussing, because from what you were saying I think I was imagining you were talking about Duel of Fates.
No, we were talking about music and fan service. Well, it's been an example, hasn't it? Because I said that there is a moment when it is something that I have highlighted that I liked about this mall, which is seeing him cry, seeing him vulnerable, that is, a facet of him that we had not seen reflected like this. At that moment, in one of his memories, when he's there looking at the puddle, he says the name Kenobi and we were talking about those little things, those fan service contributions that are absurd, but cool. It's cool just to listen, to watch, and that's where all this conversation came from. We were just saying, you arrived very, very early, I mean, I thought you were going to take longer. Simply put, if you want to leave your opinion and we can move on to something else, well, opinions and general feeling about the series and what the figure of Mou has been, if you think it has brought you something new, if you liked the lightsaber theme, all that, now we will talk about more things. Oh ok.
Ah, like that, like that quickly.
This series has surprised me. I didn't expect it to be something so profound to the character. I also didn't expect it to be a transitional series like the Bad Batch, but we do see that there are still some chapters left to see regarding some characters in relation to the Galactic Republic to the Empire, that is, not everything is this transition is not so fast because if, for example, you look at the Stormtroopers not yet evolved from the ones we knew, for example, in Rock One or in episode 4, we continue to see the transformation of the clone trooper into the stormtrooper just as they left it in the Bad Batch, okay? This is a connection that I have been able to see in this series. Then there's the issue of the character's depth, which I also enjoyed, seeing facets of Dark Mall that we didn't know. And the other thing is, it's clear that with very little, with a simple script, you can create a very well-made product. And seeing other products we've seen in both live-action and animation, I've come to the conclusion that it wasn't that hard to take someone like Da Philoni, I mean, people who know they're good screenwriters and good directors, and make a product with a simple plot, they make a good product, unlike, for example, Acolit, if you're going to compare, a series where there are a lot of lightsabers.
Yes, well, Defiloni's situation is clear, there are still many people who hate on him, but I think that in the end you can tell that he's a guy who loves Star Wars and has been immersed in Star Wars for many years, and in the end, when you do something with Mimo, however small, the fans have to see a positive side to it. Then again, to each their own, but what do you want me to say, man? I mean, I think the best decision, since he's brought up the whole topic, has been to give the reins to this guy because, on top of having been involved in animation for so many years and having given us so many animated products, damn, I mean, and excuse my language, but this is a [ __ ] marvel.
This series is absolutely fantastic, and all the animation that's usually done in Star Wars can be weaker or stronger, but it's good, and in the end, this is expanding the Star Wars lore in a way that the movies never managed to. Look, I'm not from Filoni, he already comes from Clone Wars, so of course he already knows what Star Wars animation and subplots are all about.
Yes, yes, absolutely. So, Maul, cool, right? Anything else you can add about Mul because we're going to move on to another character, or do you want to leave your... No, well, I don't know if you've commented on things from the last two chapters, for example, you were just saying about Kenobi, that yes, there was a flashback, but precisely in the last episode when they kill the Jedi Master of Debon, well, it's also a laser sword wound and a scream of no, well, from a distance. And I've also seen a correlation with that, with what I've seen on Twitter. Are you referring to the phantom menace? Uh, because of the "qu no one" thing. Yes, yes, yes, yes. You can, it's a, they can slip it in there if you know it well, and if not, well, it stays there too.
Yes, [snort] maybe. Look, we were talking about fan service in this, but this series is a series that we Star Wars fans are going to watch. It's not a series that even has any ambition. so that everyone can see it.
Even so, it's not a number one, nor was it, I think it's number one on Disney Plus, or has been for all these weeks, it's been number one, the most watched on the platform. So it doesn't seem to have been a failure or anything like that. So, people have seen it, including Star Wars fans. So I understand that when you write for fans and you try and it's also like, hey, it's another series by Filoni and company, uh, filling in the gaps, but expanding, but taking advantage of those gaps to expand the story. Expanding the lore makes perfect sense, so do these things, Juan, I don't know which characters. Of course, this is Star Wars, right? Does an X appear or doesn't an X appear, you understand? No, having a Star Wars ship appear is not fan service. In any case, I'm a fan and I like it when they serve me. No, I don't see him pulling a fast one, do I? [laughs] We often say, in the end we say that if it's well done it's good fan service and if not, in the end it's subjective. In other words, if we consider what it contributes or what is good, there are people who will say that Def is not good fan service and people who will say that it is bad. Well, it depends on whether you like it or not, but not necessarily fan service.
The point is that beyond any prejudices people may have about animation, okay? The fact that many people don't call him, I can understand it, I don't agree with it, but I can understand it.
If you also create a good story like this one, because this is a good story, then the fan service is more than justified.
When I get fan service, I enjoy it and it gives me a good experience, but there are people who tell me, "No, fan service doesn't work, this, this, this," well, that's when I can bring out my inner fan in the conversation and say, "Look, this is true, you're right, it's weak here, it's lacking, etc." But on top of that, like you said, Íñigo, and they give it to you well done, well told, because you said it yourself at the beginning of the live stream, the story, the music, the music has been a [ __ ] blast, man. I mean, it's been an absolute blast.
Yes, they've included a lot of themes about the revenge of the [unintelligible characters] in the last two episodes.
The action has been absolutely insane, which is clear, and I also wanted to say this, that it's animation and it's always easier to recreate than live action, but maybe a lot of people don't know this, many of the things you see in animation are filmed with people who do the movement. I mean, I want to I have to tell you that this series is very complete.
I have a big question for the end of this live stream that I want to ask you, and I'm serious, for me, Rebels is still top-tier, especially the first season, what comes after, but this series has reached that level, and I mean, it's right there, you know, kissing Rebels' ass, you know, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, the best.
Working on it.
And you've mentioned something about the graphic animation with those brushstrokes, which is a newer style.
For example, we already saw it in Bad Batch, but here the detail is much more noticeable. There are some moments that I did like, especially when you saw it in their expressions, but for example, I didn't like it as much when you saw it with cityscapes or landscapes as backgrounds, and there it looked completely flat, without movement. There were some that were very good, shots of the city and the ship and such, but there was one that I don't know if it was from the last one or the second to last, but it was the last one this week, right?
Yes, yes. There was one with the destroyers above and such that was practically flat.
I mean, it was a flat drawing that you think, "Well, it's very nice." I would put it on the wall, to be honest, but it's true that you can't see any depth in that one, right?
But in many others, yes. Yes, yes. The drawing was amazing. With those paintings they were trying to evoke a bit of R mac Mcarry, Mcarry's original designs. I see it especially in that one, in that particular one it has been quite noticeable.
It could also be, guys, that what you 're talking about is because the whole series takes place in a very dark and poorly lit way, so that the type of paint stroke that isn't so noticeable stands out more. And yet, when they go to the jungle where there is more light, it is more noticeable. That could be the reason in the end. Let's see, I do n't know what he was thinking. For example, when there were scenes where they were looking through digital periscopes, it was noticeable because when you have that kind of eye view, you can see that, for example, the viewfinders are much straighter and more symmetrical. There it was more noticeable that there was, well, a bit too much grain in the drawing, but apart from the backgrounds, I liked everything else. In other words, many of the characters have been respected from the Bad Batch or even Clone Wars style, where the features were more noticeable.
For example, the characters of De Bon, his Jedi master, and Lutivario, are characters whose brushstrokes haven't been as noticeable, unlike Maul, who has always had that brushstroke style visible in every scene he's appeared in. I've even noticed it quite a bit in the lightsaber movements because they looked much more shaky than in other scenes from other graphic series, which looked much more rigid or even thinner than what we normally see in Life Faction, as is the case with Rebels.
That's true. There's a mall shot where, when they turn on the laser like that in a close- up, what you're saying, it's noticeable, quite noticeable. Okay, let's move on to the next thing, I'm going to put this here, okay? Where are you? Here.
Okay, I'll post this image. I'm posting this image because we're going to talk about Devon, okay? This character is not Devon as such, at least as far as we know, but he is Dart Talon, a character that was created by George Lucas, well, if I remember correctly, I think George Lucas created him, if I remember correctly, and that he would have wanted to introduce as Mour's apprentice, if he had told more of his story and all this. If that's not the case, you can correct me, or any of you three, or someone in the chat or comments. I have a question, Rubén, about whether it's still canon or not, because when Disney came along they ruined a lot of canon. Talon isn't canon, I'm not saying it is, I'm saying that George Lucas invented it as De Mou's apprentice and that the intention was to have made a story with them, but in the end it didn't work out.
Yes, he says, I read it on Twitter the other day, but I don't know if it's because I tend to demystify George Lucas a lot, I mean, I think George Lucas deserves credit for many things and criticism for many others, I mean, he's not God in Star Wars. Uh, so, uh, I mean, in fact, The Empire Strikes Back is what it is thanks to paying little attention to George Lucas during filming.
So, then he says, I read on Twitter that there's a rumor that Talon was going to be Mall's apprentice in a sequel idea that Jos Lucas had in which the new villain was Mall, who had survived. So, he had an apprentice who was Darth Talon. Uh, I don't know if Talon comes from there or if it comes from something else or if it comes from a novel. She came from the Star Wars Legacy comics, you know, those were comics published by Dark Horse and written by John Strander and drawn by his wife, Dursema, and they were set 100 years after Star Wars. The protagonist was a descendant of Luke, we don't know if he was a grandson or great-grandson or something like that, he was like a bounty hunter, a guy who lived outside the law, but he had something of the force, right? And there were Jedi, there were Imperials, and there were, in fact, Imperial Knights, and then there were the Sith, and the bad guy was KD, who was a character from the expanded universe who had lived, who had lived a lot, there was a guy who had been on Tatooine and this was one of his Sith. Sure, it has a really cool design because, well, Darth Maul is an awesome design that we're still following 27 years after he died because Darth Maul is so cool, and watching this series is often like, it's so cool when he pulls out his lightsaber and starts throwing punches, right? Because of those tattoos, and in the end this is a Twilc, which is a very cool Star Wars design mixed with Maulo's tattoos and other things. So how can he not pay? That's what I was going to say. I mean, that's it, it's a total design thing. If you look closely, everything she's wearing on her face and all, I mean, well, but in any case, I put this image here in case there's someone who's clueless, which is probably not the case, or maybe there is, I don't know. This character we're talking about is the one Devon was inspired by, okay? She is the character, the protagonist, a protagonist that we have seen in this Mobe series. I'll start by saying, okay?
And I'll give you the floor now, because I was surprised by how this character's path was clear, but I was surprised by how they told us the story of how he resisted until the end. It's true that as the series starts, you're already seeing things and thinking, "Damn, this master's got a bad reputation, huh? He smells like dirt, as they say, right? I mean, you know where they're going with this and what she's going to explode over." And it's true, but I really liked it, man, how it wasn't easy for her. I mean, she wasn't tempted right away, she didn't stick to her convictions, a Jedi loyal to her master, trying to do the right thing, and only when she's desperate, burned out by the Empire, seeing everything it's causing, and that in the end her master even gives his life, that's when she finally explodes.
I thought it would be something else, but it's been something very different. Tell me.
I see here that they've done something with Devon that's becoming quite typical in Star Wars and that even rhymes a bit with the gloomy look in The Last Jedi.
Which is to acknowledge that the Jedi Order, that the Jedi Knights, are not perfect and that they make mistakes. So, here we see Devon initially having a kind of apprentice-master relationship with Master Dicky. But as the series progresses, we see how circumstances require Devon to do certain things, and Dicky is more grounded and says, "No, no, not this, yes to this, this is this." And she starts to doubt her master, not his intentions, but his technique. She thinks, "Hey, we're in this situation, things have changed, we can't just be peacemakers like we were in the Republic."
Just like in the Clone Wars, when the Jedi went from being emissaries, peacekeepers, to warriors, in the Imperial era, being an emissary again isn't enough. You have to be a fighter, a resister, not a rebel, because otherwise... They eat. So, of course, this process of Devon gradually detaching himself from the old Jedi Order is really cool, like he's saying, "No, no, we have to do other things here." And it turns out that this guy with the tattoos here is proposing things that seem to be effective. Of course, this is kind of what Yoda said, right? The dark side isn't more powerful, it 's faster, it's more seductive, but it 's not more powerful.
Akimol uses his usual trick, the one Duku tells Anakin in episode 3, "Use your anger, because if you use your anger you'll hit harder, isn't it?
But that's the mistake Anakin makes, and that's the mistake Devon makes here, which is thinking that if I hit harder I'm stronger, but I'm not." And it's cool, it's really cool, it works because it was also clear that the season was going to end with Devon as an apprentice, I mean, it was crystal clear. Besides, they've captured the essence of it, it's not It's red, but it's kind of pinkish, so the black tattoo could look good over it, right? Let's not rule out that it's the path of... It's well done, isn't it? The good thing is that we all know what's going to happen and yet it happens in a very natural way.
Exactly. I'm convinced; it's not like the teacher suddenly becomes an idiot or she becomes super impulsive, right? I mean, they maintain their positions and their personalities and their way of being, and little by little she sees that the order and the "no" is no longer a valid tool to face this situation, right? And she doesn't even say, "Wow, my teacher is an idiot, isn't he?" At no point does she lose respect for him, or affection for him, or anything like that." On the contrary, precisely when he dies she's angry because of everything she loves about him and everything that binds her to him, right?
So, that's why it works, because it feels very natural. In fact, it's done much better than Anakin's fall to the dark side, or even better than this image you showed us with the red glow, because it also leans in that direction, like the images you showed earlier.
Also, if you look here, the brushstrokes we were talking about aren't as noticeable on this character because she's more... well, they're darker. I mean, I think that's key because she's also younger. She's younger.
Yes, maybe. What you're saying is interesting because, and this has always been the case, has n't it? We've seen it in the Star Wars saga, but within this galaxy far, far away, all those concepts you're talking about are very generational, in the sense that, in the end, old people are creatures of habit. This is very typical, isn't it? It can be applied to real life, especially to more impulsive young people. So, of course, in those times, as Mark said, when a change of mindset is necessary, where it's live or die, this is much more tempting, easier, because I don't think it was tempting or easy for this character, I don't think that definition, nor the quick way out. I think it was more of an escape, an emergency, a solution, because right now she's not thinking about her own well-being, she's thinking about defeating the empire. In the end, it's fighting evil with evil.
Of course, of course. But, but when your master is telling you all the time not to let yourself be carried away by anger, that anger leads to hatred, hatred to the dark side, and so on, well, you listen to him, right? Suddenly another man appears who says, "No, no, if you use anger, damn, you get a power boost like you would n't believe." Right. Hm. Suddenly she receives, suddenly she has the influence of two contradictory masters and just the events From the end of the episode, which will be the loss of the master, the desire for revenge, and the desire to destroy Vader, uh, will lead him to listen to one of them, in this case, Mol, right? And in fact, what M does here, through his actions and a bit of the circumstances, is put Devon in the same place he is. I mean, in a way, I have to say it, it's palpable, and it came back, somehow, [laughs] uh, the Emperor has destroyed someone he cares about. The Emperor killed Mol's brother, and in this case, he killed Devon's master through Vader. So now Devon is in the same place as Mol. I mean, now Mol can tell him, "Okay, well, your destiny, your mission is to help me destroy the Emperor and destroy this."
What you're saying is interesting because she's been left alone, but he's also been left alone because all his Mandalorian followers have been destroyed, as well as his other loyal followers, and both the spy droid, or So, what was his group. Uh, he's kept the connection to Grimson Down, which also links to the movie Solo, Han Solo. Yes.
Yes, we'll have to see in the second season because, well, I understand, I don't know if there will be a third, but everything is going to be geared towards Maul's rise in the Crimson. So, of course, we'll see how they play with this character with Devon, in the sense that he'll be doing things in favor of Maul so that he can benefit, and that's going to be interesting to see because it's going to be a completely different side of him compared to this season of the show. It's going to be interesting to see Maul as a teacher, right?
Because just like maybe Obi-Wan wasn't quite ready, wasn't as prepared as he needed to be to be Anakin's teacher, Maul certainly isn't as prepared as he needs to be to be Devon's teacher, right? And there's also something I really liked, which is that the series suggests that Maul is obviously just a very efficient guy, It's really cool how he starts killing people with his lightsaber, but he's vulnerable. He has robotic legs that fail him, and in fact, he gets defeated a couple of times precisely because those legs are injured. He's not the same character he was; he's not at his best. The thing I really like is that Maul is a short guy, not some kind of brute or anything like that. He's small, he's fast, he's all that, but compared to Vader, he 's overwhelmed and, on top of that, wounded.
No, but I thought he was going to last longer in the fight, but no, he ca n't. No, but of course, it's noticeable here, it's noticeable here. For example, in the prequel trilogy, it's clear who was the one in that duel, and it's clear who the Emperor chose. I found it normal that Vader beat Darth Vader so badly in that duel.
Also, I really liked how they did with Darth Vader because they respected everything. Darth Vader, who... He fights with one hand, he doesn't hold the lightsaber with both. Those details, just like in the duel in A New Hope with Obi-Wan Kenobi, where he fights with both hands or with only one, I really liked how they respected all of that.
Now, we'll talk about Vader, man. But Vader here is like Jason from Friday the 13th.
Yeah, because he's a total beast who arrives, doesn't say a word. Like, " Well, I've come to kill, I'm going to kill everyone." He doesn't even bother. I thought he was going to say something, something, like, " Oh, you killed Jason," nothing. Bang, bang, like Jason Borges, I mean, an animal you can't stop, it's almost like something out of a horror movie, right? You can't do anything against him, you can only run away, and we'll see if you escape, but you're not going to escape. They did that really well in the Jedi Fallen Order video game. They did it fantastically, didn't they? And there, there he does say A few words, but no, it wasn't necessary because the mere presence of the character fills the screen and he really does that. I mean, Vader is the terror of the Empire. I mean, when Vader appears in the final three minutes, they're... [laughs] Sorry, sorry. Um, damn it, Mar, man. Joan. [laughs] Oh, no, no, no. What I was saying is that I agree with what Mark said, that he's a character whose mere presence inspires terror, even in those final three minutes of Clone Wars when he's there in the snow, that scene also inspires respect. It's his presence that ultimately matters. But we'll talk about that later, don't get ahead of yourselves because I've got some really cool stills here that we'll discuss in a moment. I have another one here that we're going to talk about, even if only briefly, because I think the character deserves it.
Another great discovery of mine in this series is Laon, Detective Lawon, who's the one who brings that part, especially at the beginning of the... The series is more detective-oriented, more of a police investigation, and damn, in the end, even though it's true that he was a less important or irrelevant character to the main story of Mol and the others, I think that police counterpoint really added something to the series' premise, and on top of that, it had a damn epic ending, which is him sacrificing himself to save his son's life. He sacrificed himself because this character was the only witness to Mall's betrayal of Master Daky. And this character and that anecdote, that vision he had to sacrifice, is precisely what will make Devon betray Mall in the second season: knowing that he was the one who betrayed Daky. That's why the fog lifts. He hasn't died. The cop hasn't died. I mean, he hasn't died.
Oh, you think he just didn't die? You think he didn't die?
No, no, no He's dead.
The Empire captured him because he's the only one who witnessed the betrayal.
In Star Wars, if you don't see a body, you can't assume a character is dead.
Even if they fall off a cliff, they're still alive. Look, yes, it's true he gets shot three or four times, and I was thinking, but it's also true that we've seen how, after the only character we would have liked to see saved with a lightsaber wasn't back then— Quigon—many have survived lightsaber wounds, so it could be. Yes, right? Well, I hadn't thought of that, Mark. That's a good one. It's true, it's true.
Samuel Jackson said on his Twitter once, or in an Empire article, I think it was, that Master Windows is still alive.
Yes. Yes. Well, he's had plenty of time to do something, and that's what I was going to say. Come on, wasn't it a way to take advantage of Star Wars, you know? If that were the case. Wagner voices that character.
Moura, the actor, well, an actor who's won a ton of awards, the one who played the guy in Narcos, the one who played Narcos, yeah, you know, the protagonist of Narcos, and he's really good because here he does the complete opposite, right? A worried father, a good Costa Rican cop, the last honest cop in a city where there aren't that many left, right? And on top of that, he's trying to stop the Empire from coming. Well, I like it, it's really cool, he's constantly trying to prevent the Empire from coming because he knows what's going to happen, that as soon as they come, he'll be gone, it'll all be over, they'll take control and they'll have to forget about it because, of course, here the Empire is still just starting to control many planets, they still have them, well, they're there, that is, nominally under the Empire's command, but they pay taxes and are left alone, but as soon as they come and cause trouble, forget about them leaving. And he's... That's why it's so, so well done, because on top of everything, he tries to be a good father, his wife tries—she's an Imperial, by the way. Maybe that's why he has a difficult reason for surviving; she has him prisoner or something like that. I hadn't thought of that, you know. I thought he'd died in a blaze of glory, but well, look, I'm glad. [laughs] Yes, because also, the son escapes with M and Devon, so he would have... But look, that's a really good one, I hadn't thought of it, and it's a really good idea. Very good. Yes, sir. By the way, one point simply can't be missing because they take advantage of it, whether to sell figures or because it's a trademark of the saga, but you can't leave out the typical droid, you know, the one that has that, let's say, good side, that does the right thing. Very naive, yes, very naive, by the way, doing what protocol dictates, I don't know what, and in the end, helping them, right?
Two-Boots, or Wow, that's cool. Uh, well, and then we also had the counterpart with the ones from M, which reminded me of a creature from Transformers, man, with the voice they gave it.
Yeah, no, the typical Transformers minion.
Yeah, something like that. One [laughs] of the first Transformers movies, there isn't a single bad droid, right? In all the Star Wars series, there are about two droids and they're all memorable. I mean, because these two, this one, who's trying to do the right thing, what's legal, completely screws up and then takes a while to realize it. The son of a [ __ ], the droid friend of Maul, who was really cool. Then the droids, the droids that appeared in the previous series are also awesome. I'm swearing a lot, sorry.
Never mind, never mind, relax, we 're not in kids' programming anymore.
Yeah, [laughs] since I just started watching Andor again and damn, the droid from Andor is super cool, poor thing That useless little gadget, right? They all know how to give machines a weapon, man, something very few sagas can boast about.
What you're saying is true, because in all the series, both with K2SO in Andor and NSM33 with Skeleton Crew, they've all had something extra, like a differentiating character compared to other droids.
Yes, incredible. The one in Solo is brutal, which is the Millennium Falcon's personality.
That seems to me the best detail the movie has.
Exactly. I have the image here somewhere, I do n't know where it is. Well, I'll put this one for now and I'll check it. Uh, let's talk about other characters we mentioned earlier, briefly, and who, for me, vindicate these figures, the Inquisitors.
Those bastards Inquisitors have been so cool in this series. I mean, I've gotten a little dizzy here, huh? They've always been... Yes, too fast. Right?
Yeah, yeah. I got a little dizzy with the battles. I have to say, I mean, for me, one of the most memorable scenes of the whole saga, uh, the hallway where they come running in the penultimate episode, I mean, it's just so good. I mean, the way they play with the tension of the hallway, hallway, hallway, hallway, and then they come running because this whole walking thing where they say lines is just stupid when they're hunters.
So they come running and they're bare-handed, I mean, they just go and... and I love that transition they make with Marok, who's suddenly on the other side. I mean, incredible, incredible. But I got really dizzy with the battles going around and around and stuff. I mean, damn, I need to see the camera [laughs] in slow motion.
Besides, no, you, no, keep going, going, going, going. Because those two inquisitors, both Marok and Mr. Crow, well, they 're both defeated by Ahsoka, right?
One in the live-action series and the Another one in Tails.
Yes, what happens is that he and they both deflate the same way. I do n't know if Asoka's Marrock is still Marrock.
Of course, there's... there, there, I've also been a little confused about Marrock because the crow, the crow who is the first brother, tenth brother or something like that, tenth. I think Mr. Crow is the first brother.
No, no, no. The eleventh. The eleventh.
Yes, he's a tenth around there. It's when Soka kills him that it's true the helmet falls and deflates, but I didn't understand that it's made of air or something. I mean, I understood that he cuts off his head and to make it, let's say, not so violent, we see the helmet fall and deflate, right? But I understood that the head goes somewhere else, right? A bit like when Maze Windu cuts off Jango Fet's head, I mean, in fact, we even see how the The helmet comes loose, I mean, you can see the head fly off, right? But just a little. Well, I think that's what happened there, I mean, this one is... I don't know if it's half-robot or a living being or something. The thing is, with Marrock, I mean, I think here we're seeing the real Marrock, I mean, inside there's a person or a humanoid alien, and what we see in Ahsoka, which is many years later, undead, I mean, is Marrock, but resurrected with the magic of the Nightsisters.
Right.
So, of course, I was thinking, I mean, let's see how Marrock dies in this series and then they'll take him away, right? I mean, we haven't really seen Marrock's first death. He falls, yes, he falls, but we don't see him. No, we assume he'll come back. That's what I was thinking. I mean, we know how this crow dies. We know Marrock is going to die, but in a different way, right?
Uh, but they're really cool. And also There's one thing that's difficult to do in these kinds of shows: when you introduce these kinds of villains and try to clearly show that they're really good at what they do. It's hard to maintain that level of skill when the good guys are always on the run, right? When I'm always a bad guy, a total mercenary, a law-abiding killer. And in the end, they try to kill the good guys a thousand times, and the good guys always get away. Well, you can't be that good at what you do, can you? But here, even though the good guys try to escape or do escape several times, you never lose that sense of danger, that these guys are good hunters, good trackers, and that if they appear, you're going to fight for your life and you're going to have a really bad time. And they manage to pull that off; at no point is it like, "Okay, these suckers, let's see how they die." No, no. And that's really cool. They move like crazy. I mean, that's what I'm going to tell you, man. I remember, I mean, the feeling I had in other shows In other Star Wars products, we've seen it in live-action and animation, especially. Video games with the Inquisitors too. They arrive and obviously pose a powerful threat, but of course, as you 've mentioned before, right?
When Vader arrives, you can tell when he's the real threat, you can sense who the real threat is, for example. And yet, with these two, excuse me, [clears throat] uh, that hasn't happened to me. I mean, I've felt at all times that they were a real threat, no less than two Jedi and a Sith, and you think, damn, it's everyone against everyone else, but it makes sense, right? Because we're talking about the story of the Empire's pursuit and all that, but they also show you a side of them where they bother to show you, even if they 're a bunch of idiots, their investigative side, where they follow clues, a trail, damn, in the end you think, they interrogate the policeman and everything.
Exactly. Finally, you say, damn, these are the Inquisitors I imagined they should be. I mean, truly fearsome figures. Not just because they pull out a red lightsaber, you don't think, holy [ __ ], they're bad, watch out.
No, no, they should be feared a little because... But why? But, but why do you say comparison? Because maybe the Inquisitors in Obi-Wan Kenobi, for example, weren't as successful.
For example, I think they weren't handled very well. I remember they worked in Rebels, but even so, they didn't convey what they were supposed to, and it was animation too, right? Live-action. And here, however, I did feel that, damn, these guys could be a proper Vader retinue, not just henchmen he has around like so many soldiers who shoot and die. Do you see what I mean? I mean, in general, both in their acting, in their visual representation, in scenes of, I won't say terror, But yes, mystery, right? That darker aura that these characters have to have, I did see it here, and I think that's really strengthened the figure of the inquisitors in this series. I don't know if you agree with me or not, Mark, you start if you want, then Joan, and then Iñigo.
Yes, yes. Well, it's true, it's true that the inquisitors in Obi-Wan Kenobi were a bit weak, weren't they? But I think they were also weak because, I mean, I understood the whole thing about the—I don't remember what the inquisitor's name was—I don't remember what it was like.
Riva, Reva. Reba, I understood that they did something else there, right? Uh, they told a different story; she was, let's say, a more dubious inquisitor, a bit like in Tales of the Jedi or one of those where Barriss also becomes an inquisitor, right? But then she quits.
Uh, but for example, the Grand Inquisitor in Obi-Wan Kenobi... One was a disaster, I mean, I didn't like it at all, and in Rebel it did have a presence, right? But, for example, in the Fallen Order video game, the Inquisitor appears Hey, there are two inquisitors in the video game and they're hard to kill, huh? No, I hadn't thought to mention it, but you're right. But you see there, you do feel that they are, because they are, they are the threat to that total and absolute history. Yes, yes.
And here I have felt that, which is what I'm getting at.
Of course, they're the villains here, I mean, Vader is a bonus at the end. They are the villains here.
In Jedi Fine Order, I admit that with the inquisitors I had to lower the difficulty to be able to pass. [laughs] Yes, yes. I mean, the first one is the big strip that works in Kashic, but the Trila one is impossible. It 's extremely difficult. Yes, yes. Yes, it's expensive.
Yes, Joan, I quite agree with what you said. If we compare it to Obi-War War, there's quite a difference because it's the other series I didn't want to mention before, along with Decolite, that fell quite short due to what the characters do. It is clear that, for example, the figure of the Grand Inquisitor, well, Nob One, for example, did convey something to me, but the thing about going through him with a lightsaber and then nothing happening, well [laughs] you know that, well that's what put me off. But here, for example, uh, as I told you before, both are defeated by Asoka, well of course, it's the case that one is defeated with a head cut and the other with a chest cut. They are deaths that are yes, but also no. In the case of the crow, Devon made a small cut and it's already gone. I thought the character would add a bit more toughness in that last fight, but of course, I understand that none of the characters fighting there, apart from Debon's Jedi Master, had to die because it was clear we know how their stories continue.
Iñigo, yes, they are, they are very well.
[laughs] I have little more to say than that they do n't have personality, but they have coolness and know-how, right? This scene is really cool, huh, how the poor girl is suffering and bringing out the best in herself to resist against those two. I'm very happy. I mean, the inquisitors are a concept that's just cool. It's a concept that's a bit of a cheat because, well, there are only two. Yes. Well, we invented that they have a bunch of cool minions, that they only need to be cool minions for there to be fights and stuff like that, right? And it works, it worked when they did it in Rebels and it works here. It's true that B One gives it a score, but Obi One had a lot of steering problems. I mean, in those scenes that Rubén has just shown us, there's one that I really liked, where the 14 laser sheets that appear in that scene all get blocked in one hit and you get an image, a really cool poster with them all crossed. I do n't know if the scene almost stops for a second, the scene stops and stays for a second with all 14 sheets connected to each other and locked.
No, no, no. Don't get ahead of yourself, don't get ahead of yourself because look at what I was going to say next.
Great moment, great moment.
This, this image is [ __ ] insane. I mean, this fight, I mean, the one with Vader, yes, because of who Vader is, because of whatever you want, but the spectacular lightsaber fights, man. I mean, because of things like these scenes, I fell in love with Star Wars, and it was also because the first Star Wars movie I saw was The Phantom Menace when I was 7 years old. I mean, this is outrageous, man. I mean, the action, I want to comment on it, we've already touched on it during the live stream, but [suppressed scream] it's [ __ ] crazy. I mean, when they do these things, man, and I had a great time, despite what Joan said, I had a really good time in this sense too at The Acolite. And me, of course, if you give me this, I know Star Wars is much more, but if you give me this, you've already won me over. Obviously a good story, good characters, but with this and on top of this they don't slack off either, they come up with it, they put effort into it and on top of that they leave you with flat images like this. I mean, because there are moments in the series, as I've said before, it's literally everyone against everyone. Mall versus the Jedi, the Jedi versus the Inquisitors. Mall against the Inquisitors, Mall and the Jedi against the Inquisitors. I mean, it's brutal. And we have against the sit. So, you do have everything there.
Of course, I have to make a disclaimer here, and that is, tell me.
Of course, I mean, this is awesome. This is awesome, isn't it? I mean, there are many types of Star Wars fans, actually.
No, no, there isn't just one type, is there? I, for example, am a Star Wars fan who is capable of asking for many things from a Star Wars product, but for me, based on my tastes, what I want are red lightsabers and hooded people. I mean, it's kind of like my Star Wars fetish, right? That's what I'm going to tell you.
Here I have Revan, a Hot Toys Revan, which is wonderful, and above is Mr. Vader, of course, the god to whom we pray in this house. But I mean, I want that Star Wars stuff, right?
So, of course, I see this image, I see these episodes, we've had Bide too, and of course, I see a lot because, like, for example, the raven is exactly the look I would wear if I were a sih, right? [laughs] Uh, hood, mask, red sword, if I'm not asking for more, eh? So, of course, I see this and I'm like, "Wow, I mean, crazy, right? What a joy, what a marvel, right? This morning watching, no, last night, I mean, yesterday morning watching the episodes, I was on the sofa yelling and my cat was looking at me like, " What's wrong with this guy?" It comes back to you, it comes back. [laughs] Exactly. But, but here's where the bad part comes in. I think it's great, I think it's great, but I think it's unfair that we have this, which is incredible, it has no flaws in animation, in a series on Disney Plus.
But then we have a Star Wars movie coming out in theaters soon, right? Which is The Mandalorian Ghost, which is a Mandalorian movie, a movie based on the series. And next year we'll have Star Fighter, and we do n't even know if there will be lightsabers in that movie. So it's like, surely there will be. [laughs] I just do n't know, I just don't know.
So, I think it's great to see this as a series, but this, for me, has It has to be complementary. What I want to see are red lightsabers and fights in the movies.
I want to see it. It's just that, what's the matter? It's not that there's no way.
It's easy to see that in The Mandalorian there's also some weird scene, right?
What I'm clear about is that the lightsaber, the concept of the lightsaber, is a very pure concept, it's a laser beam sword, it's something that's intrinsically cool, you know? All the fans have a lightsaber, everyone has gone to record videos, to film. How many videos are there on the internet, on YouTube, of people going, of friends going to an open field and beating each other up with lightsabers, and, well, we're like, I do n't know what. Millions, like in an open field.
Yes, [laughs] exactly. And also, you have the possibility to do, look, check out the Visions shorts, it shows, right?
Incredible, incredible. If you were given the opportunity to tell just one Star Wars story Wars, you're going to tell a Star Wars story, you're going to tell a Star Wars story with lightsabers. That's why practically all the Visions movies have them.
Exactly. Of course, because if it's your only chance in life, how can you not do something with lightsabers? Of course you will. And there's definitely going to be one in Star Fighter, I have no doubt. I mean, precisely because of what you said, Mark, I mean, I'm totally on your side, because I think that in Star Wars there always has to be a lightsaber in some way, even if it's just a small one. Just yesterday, by the way, it's crazy that Marquill and I were in the same movie theater and we didn't leave, I mean, we were about to kill each other [laughs]. I looked everywhere.
Well, man, I saw Josep from Fan Para el Fan and I saw Mario from Frequíoles too, but I didn't see you, man. I don't know. Did you go alone?
No, with the girlfriend.
Oh, well no, dude, incredible.
Anyway, getting back to the topic, when we saw those first 25 minutes of Mandal Grogu, we were talking about it, and I was talking to him and I said, I mean, I mean, I think there are going to be lightsabers here. I mean, because maybe they won't repeat the Luke thing.
Ahsoka isn't in it. I mean, but somehow they're going to throw something in. I mean, I think so, even if it's just Bocatán reappearing with the black lightsaber, something that if I remember correctly, Bocatán was alive. It's been a while since I've seen the third season of Mandalén. I think so, right?
Correct.
Okay, okay, okay. I mean, there has to be something, the lightsaber was broken, right?
That's what I don't remember.
That Mogidion kills him, breaks it.
It was, it was. Holy [ __ ], that's right. Well then, well then, that's why Rubén Mandalorian works well without lightsabers.
Of course, You know?
I don't think they'll try to introduce that.
Listen, something that seems silly, but it's not at all. It's the return of Star Wars to theaters after 7 years.
Yes, but for Disney and Lucasfilm, the return to theaters is precisely The Mandalorian and Grogu, because of everything they've done, that's what's been the biggest hit and also sells a lot of toys.
So, uh, I mean, the movie doesn't really need lightsabers. It's one thing if we want them, right? I mean, if we want one, logically, right? But of course, the chances are remote, I don't think they'll waste another bullet, another attempt to bring Luke back. Unless, unless, I was thinking about it yesterday while watching the trailers again, I was thinking, I mean, no, unless I saw Grogu and they give us a flashback of when he trained with Luke, a lesson Luke gives him or something, and then yes, Let's see some lightsabers, but more for the sake of teaching Luke, right? But the possibilities are limited; in every series they always include something from Order 66. Yes, in every series they always include some scene.
In fact, it was in The Mandalorian, if I remember correctly, right?
With the actor who played Jarvins. Yes, yes, yes. Thank goodness, poor guy.
That Jedi, as far as we know, is still alive, and in Obi-Wan Kenobi, which I haven't seen, there's also a vision of Order 66 at the beginning of the series.
Yes. Look, the problem is that the possibilities are limited. I don't think they'll use Luke, and they can't use Sokka because he's in the middle of the plot of the second season of [the show]. Of course, then, just dreaming, sure, I'd love for Cal Kestis to suddenly appear with the actor, wow, and you'd say, "Holy crap, you've killed me." Of course. Well then Dude, if they do that and then make the damn series they have to do, the actor's still young enough to do it, man. I don't know, sure, but Calquestis, the video games are supposed to be canon in theory because they don't contradict anything, they don't do anything weird, and they're supposedly developing the third one. So it 's not that easy for Calquestis to appear. I mean, there aren't that many possibilities for a Jedi to appear in... No, but Mar, think about that time period, for example, between the first and second video games, he's been doing different things.
A very brief appearance could fit in there, you know?
But, but, but Calquestis's story is before defeating the Empire.
Yes.
And The Mandalorian is after. So, it would be a very old Calquestir, right? That's true. Right. I'll give you a clue, Rubén, that might lead you to guess right. The ATA models that you see in the trailers are the same ones that appear in The Fallen Order.
which have nothing to do with the Delio Strikes Back one, which is the one I have here behind me with the little round pistols. That's right, that's right, that's right.
It's a detail.
You said it, Mark, I, watch out, watch out. Look, besides, you're introducing a new Jed to a lot of people, to the general public who don't know him, beyond the video games.
Interesting proposal, huh?
Have you seen the three of them? Did you see the first half hour or what?
I didn't, I saw it in Madrid with Jo Fabro last week.
I didn't, I saw it again yesterday.
Oh, but was there another one yesterday or what? I didn't know that.
Yesterday, Star Wars Day was shown in different Kinépolis cinemas in Spain.
But I hadn't heard about that. They did it. I found out through a publication. In fact, at first I thought it was the movie and I said, "Damn, I mean, the movie was out so long ago." But of course, I had It was a trap, it was 25 minutes. Of course, I didn't know anything about Madrid, they didn't contact me either, but they did tell me about Valencia, uh, well, I do n't know, it's cool. You can ask if it's cool.
Yes, yes, it's awesome. The first half hour is awesome.
The movie starts totally frantic and, I mean, the first half hour grabs you, that's for sure. Then you know the rest, but the first half hour, of course. What I liked about the first half hour has to do with the 3 minutes they put on Disney Plus.
They're part of the beginning. Yes, they're parts of the beginning.
Yes, yes. What I liked is that even though it's a series, a Mandalorian movie, uh, and therefore it's like a long episode, I mean, I don't think that, I mean, I think that's how it's going to be. Even though Grogu is a Mandalorian, even though Grogu is a nice character, uh, funny too, right? And so, the movie, I mean, the first half hour, at least the beginning, of course, the first few minutes are violent, right? I mean, the commander is beating up soldiers so badly you think, "Holy crap, this isn't for kids, it's not for kids either, right?"
But do you remember in Rebels how they enjoyed killing stormtroopers like, "Come on, we'll throw you off a cliff and everyone's laughing, a stormtrooper is dead [laughs]." "Nothing's wrong."
No, no. Well, listen, here's a scene with a soldier, and when you see the movie, Iñigo, please send me a message because literally, uh, well, I think I can say this because I won't say exactly how, but the guy above him, the guy above, his head gets blown off. In fact, you see his head get blown off.
Okay, okay, okay. You don't see blood, like going to the premiere with my Iñigo, you see the clock, huh? You see the blog. I mean, you know which one I mean, right? Mar, the style is like Dark Devil, right? Look, it's not a shot, it's a long shot. It's, it's [sighs] quite... I'll say it later so I do n't have to say it here, and I'll tell you about it.
Uh, let's finish up, I was saving this for the end, obviously for that one. Let me load this for a second.
Okay, I've got it here. I was saving this for the end to talk about, well, that big change The finale, that great final appearance we all love so much. Uh, it's true he has a much longer appearance, but this ending of the eighth— the ninth is the ninth episode, there are 10, right? Yes, there are 10 episodes.
This ending of the ninth episode reminded me a lot of his appearance in Rad One.
I imagine it happened to you too, right?
Yes, yes, yes. In fact, they even made a nod to it with the mall itself in the first episode, the first image you posted of the director who's in it with the hood and he ignites the lightsaber, and then when he takes out the Pikes, I think there's one he cuts in half, which is a crazy thing with a beam coming out and all, he's also at the end of the corridor and the light comes from the lightsaber, right? I mean, that's already the legendary corridor of Star Wars since Rad One. I mean, that's iconic. Yeah. Nothing, but it's, look, it's what we were talking about, right?
I mean, this guy, I mean, I've always I mean, for me he's the best villain, I mean, in film.
Yeah, yeah.
This guy doesn't need an introduction, he doesn't need anything else. He's cool because when he appears, you think, like, this guy appears, right?, in this scene and you think, " Someone's going to die today."
Yeah, yeah, that's it, [laughs] man. That's it.
At least one person is going to die today. We'll see if that's what I meant by comparing him to the Inquisitors. Obviously they're not comparable, but you know when he appears and you know things are going to get bad, very bad.
But when Rebels appear at the beginning of the second season, it's amazing.
Holy [ __ ], yeah, this guy really gets him, right? He's incredible.
Yeah, yeah. And how he looks, huh? How he looks is insane. It's insane.
The obsession with this character doesn't make any sense.
No, it's not that he's just huge.
No, that's what I was saying. He's iconic. He's iconic. He 's Iconic.
This guy transcends generations. I mean, this villain is insane. Vader, man, it doesn't matter when he appears or how he appears, it's the voice acting that matters. Be careful with this because it's true that he works very well without saying anything because he has no need to say anything. I mean, he arrives there and does his job and hates the Jedi. I miss him. Of course, you might have missed him, and it could also have something to do with James Jones dying. So I think Disney has permission to use his voice with AI.
I think, I mean, I'm speaking a bit without knowing for sure, but I think Disney can continue using James James Jones' voice because they don't want another character to have, I mean, they don't want another actor to have Darth Vader.
In Obi-Wan Kenobi, JSL Jones was still there. JSL Jones was still there.
Yes, yes, with Obi-Wan Kenobi.
I think that was the last thing he did in Verdi, and he also announced that he was retiring after that series.
And also, of course, in the rest of the dubbing. Yeah, we managed. Here it was Constantine, but when Constantine died, they replaced him, and now he has another voice actor, and in Spanish, it's Pedro Tena. Exactly. And we've gotten used to hearing Pedro Tena as Vader, right? If you see it dubbed, it does n't sound bad, right?
No, it doesn't sound very good. It sounds very good.
So, look at this crazy image, huh?
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing.
This, this is a poster, man. I mean, for me, uh, I don't know about you guys, the two top villains in Star Wars. I know there's Thor, I know there are other great villains, but we hadn't had this duel yet.
No, no, no. Of course, it's tremendous. It's tremendous. It's true that yesterday I was talking about it with Manu Valdrada on "En tu universo" in a live stream where we were talking about Star Wars, and it's true that all this stuff about filling all the spaces and always being in the same era, in the Imperial era, to I like it because in the end it's still an opportunity to see Vader, but it's true that it overwhelms me with content because now I'm watching A New Hope or The Empire Strikes Back and I have to think that he fought Molten Steel five years ago and all that, and it gets to a point of completionism where I say, "No, no, I don't need so much information." I mean, it's like I need Star Wars to start telling me things about the Old Republic or go way into the future, but to move away from the Empire a little, right? It's good to have these perspectives, and there are great products like Andor, like Rock One, like this.
I agree with you, Mark, but the problem is, and you should know this with what you have behind you, that doing that is giving up on this, is n't it? Of course.
And this is still a driving force for Star Wars, man. But I'll also tell you something else, what we're seeing here, this final episode we've had, a spectacular, already iconic battle with Vader, how many of us have actually seen it?
So, you also have to consider that you don't just have to watch the series, you have to get to this episode because Vader was n't seen until the very end of the penultimate one. It wasn't a promise from the beginning of the series, was it? They kept it that way. I imagined he'd appear, but maybe in the second season, right? But then I also thought, well, in Rebels they already left him for the second season, so maybe they'll do it in the first. I woke up yesterday, watched the first episode, I thought, I'll watch the first episode and then I'll go run errands. I watched the first episode, and I thought, it ended with a B. I said, "Holy crap, I'm going, I'm going to watch the second one [laughs] all of this crap." And thank goodness because I went on Twitter and there were already people posting pictures. I just unfollowed, I mean, because of the lack of respect, I unfollowed a couple of people. I mean, Twitter and spoilers are insane. Yeah, yeah, but damn, what the heck? To win 40 shitty likes. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, man, yeah. Look at this picture, huh?
I mean, we were talking about it earlier with the Rock One thing. This is it, man. I mean, he's the [ __ ], come on, he's the greatest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, Joan's really quiet, huh? I find it incredible that you don't have anything to say about Vader.
No, no, I know I've said a lot of things before, but yeah, yeah, I totally agree with everything that the character conveys. You guys were saying earlier that we need to move away a bit from the Empire, the SIT, but I was one of those who was thinking while you were saying this that it's necessary for the character of Vader to appear at some point.
Look, no, yeah, look, I mean, he's a gift, he's a gift, and besides, the character is so iconic that he doesn't get burned out because In Obi- Wan Kenobi, it was to burn it, you know? It was a use, he's never going to give up on this character, right? Of course not, of course not.
But, I mean, this is a matter of personal preference, but if they were focused on expanding the story, but really, I mean, expanding it in that way, going way back in time or going way into the future, right? Uh, I always say that if I were given the power now to make a movie, to make an Episode 10 or to make a movie after Episode 9, I would go 100 or 200 years into the future. I mean, I wouldn't even continue characters, I mean, I would go completely into the future, to another legacy and something else, right? That was the legacy comic, that's what it was, it was a story afterward.
Exactly.
Well, in 2023 they didn't sell this as Episode 10.
No, no, [clears throat] no.
I'm saying this as if it's what I would do it, but I mean, I think these kinds of products are great if they're not the only thing we have. I mean, Star Wars is expanding its horizons a lot, but every now and then we do have this Imperial era thing where, here, you get a little gift from Vader, Vader appears here, which is when we can use him in this era, right? Or even series between the classics. We've never seen a series with Vader between The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, for example. And there's a lot of space. There's a lot of space.
Many stories, and there are also many comics made.
Comics, yes, comics, yes, comics, a ton. I think I'm also speaking for Mar here because of what you're saying about how you ultimately enjoy all of this, but it's true that one thing doesn't take away from the other. If you stop to think about it, Bad Batch, this thing with M, Andor, uh, R-One, solo, okay? Acolai's did n't turn out well. Obian in this era too, I mean, it's true They're focusing everything on this era, and it's true there's a lot to tell about those years, and they are doing it, but if they gave us a bit more variety, because in three weeks a movie comes out set after the Empire, eight years later.
Yes. And I mean, but I want to tell you, that's a specific thing that's been happening, but really, the vast majority of Star Wars products, especially in series, because we 've been at a standstill in film for many years, right? Damn, look, The Mandalorian, Boba Fett, Ahsoka, Skeleton Crew, there are several series with several seasons, I mean, they're releasing things and movies.
Yes, yes, but look at the rush and the sequels. In the end, and I understand it because they want to use the old glories, although depending on how they used them, but in the end what happened is that right now this whole path of The Mandalorian, Ahsoka, and so on, is cool because they themselves have already created a There's a 30-year gap between Return of the Jedi and Episode VII. But you have Episode VII, you have, I mean, they're still, I mean, the problem is that The Mandalorian is a sequel to Return of the Jedi, but it's also a prequel.
Yes.
So, of course, the prequel effect, which is what happens to Mall, you can't shake it off because you're watching The Mandalorian and you say, "Yes, yes, very good, very good." Throne here, Asoka there, this one and that one, Ezra, this one and the aunt and the and Paco and I don't know who, but all this ends with Palpatin being hidden on Exegol and that's what takes away the flavor for me, that's what gives me the effect that everything I'm seeing is going to end there. I understand, I understand what you're saying, but I think there's enough space, don't you? I mean, in the end it's like 25, 24 years already, in which they can include the war against the FA, I don't know what, keep telling stories, I mean, it's far enough away that things can be done. Note, Star Fighter is also supposed to take place after episode 9.
Yes, that's true. Cco or 9 years after episode 9.
Well, we'll see. Yes, yes, you're both right, but I, for example, what I was going to say, which I think is where Mark is going with this, and I agree with him, is that for the moment it's stopped as far as we know. One thing I was really looking forward to seeing from Star Wars was the new Origins of the Jedi movie by James Mangle, for example, which takes you back 25,000 years before Episode 1.
Of course, man. Or we saw this a lot in video games, man, older ones from Old Republic, uh, from the old republic, man, from that heyday of the Jedi, the gray Jedi, from when Mas de Darman was around, all that stuff. It's just that, uh, the, uh, this is brutal because there's a succession of terrible events, all of them, but the rushed and terrible ending we had of Game of Thrones was because the showrunners were hired by Lucasfilm to make a trilogy of knights of the Old Republic of Star Wars because they had been doing a more medieval thing with Game of Thrones, so it was ideal to build a trilogy of Knights of the Old Republic. Where's Tropeci? Trope 100,000 Jedi because the rule of two doesn't exist. Then you can assemble each battle with 50 red swords and 50 blue swords. Spectacular. But the Game of Thrones finale went so badly that it fell apart, what Lucas proposed to Phil fell apart. So, in the end, they did that wrong and lost the project. That was really bad luck, all of it was bad luck.
Sure, sure, sure. But it's true that it's an idea they have to play. Yes, I would really like them to do the Solo thing, the Ben Solo thing, the return of the search for Ben Solo, because he's a fantastic actor, he was a character that you say, "I just can't understand how they ruined him in that movie, it didn't make any sense."
But in that movie, Ben Solo's movie came later. Yes, the one from Ben Solo is not the one from Ben Solo. It's after episode 9 that it's inspired by the comics that came out in 2000, I think in 2017, about what they were called, about the Knights of Rens.
Knights of R. But Ben's quest was only to revive the character.
No, it's not reviving the idea that Steven Solerberg, the film director, and the actor, I don't remember his name, and Adam Driver had together, and in fact with someone else with some other important name, they wrote a script for a project to resurrect Ben Solo, and I mean, the force brought him back or something like that. That hasn't been said because the issue is that they worked for a year for free, that is, because they felt like it was a project they had, they presented it, they made a movie that wasn't even going to be a super movie, a whole movie project that they presented to Lucasfilm.
Look, we already have this here, how to bring Ben Solo with this actor, this director, this, things like that. And Disney and Star Wars said yes, I mean, Lucasfilm said yes, but Disney said yes and so on, said no, and they shut down the project, and now everyone, although people are saying, "Let's see if we can move it, let's see if it can be revived," they must all be doing their own thing, right? CL. Look, it's understandable, I mean, from an economic point of view, it's understandable that they rejected that project because if you notice, they're not drawing on the sequels, they're not doing things from the sequels, and in fact, the Rey thing and all that is also on hold, right?
Of course, of course. I mean, there was supposed to be a movie, the new Jedi Order.
Then it started to be said that Rey would appear in that movie, but not really.
It's, I don't know, they're playing around like that, they've had a lot of projects out of control.
The whole Galaxy theme park was inspired by the prequel trilogy, right?
Prequel or sequel in the sequel trilogy.
And if You notice they're introducing characters like those from The Mandalorian, like Boba Fett, and now they've introduced Darth Vader, Luke, Leia, and Hades, you know?
They're not focusing as much on Rey or Kylo.
It's a fact, and obviously, as you know, it's often said on social media that they're not going to decanonize those films, but Disney does know they're going to ignore them.
Exactly. I don't know if "ignore" is the right word, but if they can leave them there on their own, they're going to leave them alone. They're not going to imitate that approach.
Like Iñigo was saying, they're going to be building up to Episode VII and connecting it with The Mandalorian, Nasoka, and so on.
Maybe in the end we will see that big event with Throne, we'll see, right?
Filoni and Fabró have to talk about it, but they fill all that space without even explaining things about the sequels, because they could say, well, Look, if they're canon, let's be honest, Snoke has to be included, right? They're not going to say, "No, there's no need," are they? Since people generally didn't like it, right? Then a lot of people did, right? But many people do, and many young people like it the most, I mean, of course, of course. Exactly, exactly. But Star Wars is very generational, you have to admit it. But I have a feeling that it's going to fill those gaps, and then later, since for now we only have Star Fighter, well, in Star Fighter, Star Fighter probably isn't even mentioned, I mean, maybe, it'll be like the Galaxy is a very big place, right?
Sure, sure. So, in fact, Star Fighter seems like a very self-contained story, right? No, it's not going to be a story that starts a saga. That's why I say I do n't know if we'll see the laser in that movie either, because it looks like it's going to be very small. They 're not exactly selling it like it's some crazy thing, are they?
But I think they are going. I think that if the rumors that are coming out are true, I don't know if you've heard them, we're not going to say it out of respect for the people who watch us, just in case we didn't want to, but if the rumors are true, they will see the series in some way. Star Fighter.
Yes, if the character branches.
Yes, if some characters are supposedly connected to Star Fighter, but to sequels of sequels, or I highly doubt there's any connection to sequels in Star Fighter. Well, what I've read, well, it's not a big deal. It's just a rumor, folks, right? A connection with Luke.
With Luke familiar with Luke.
Oh, like he has a son or something.
Hey, you nailed it. It's just a rumor, okay?
And this is like, maybe Ryan Goslin is Luke's son, you say. I do n't know if it's Ryan Goslin's character, but it is one of the characters that appear.
The little boy would be strange.
The little boy. The kid would be the grandson at most. I don't know. I remember reading it; it was a theory I read.
I prefer that they don't play any more bad family stories, because I've had enough of King Palpatine. No, no, no.
Look at what they're saying around here. I do n't know if it's true or not, but they've already confirmed that there are sabers. Okay, fine. I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad. [laughs] Okay guys, to wrap up the live stream, the big question of this analysis, debate, live stream, whatever we want to call it, uh, is Mou Shadow Lore the best animated series and one of the best overall that the Star Wars universe has ever made?
You can be neutral, you can be clear, I do n't know, say what you think and what you feel, because I'm telling you, for me, animation is stuck to Rebels' ass. And if I include this in series in general, series eh, not movies, Star Wars series, for me it is one of the best. In a top three, top CCO could enter. I don't know if it's in the top three because I'd have to think about them all, but it's definitely one of the best. Come on, for me it's too much, for me it's too soon because there have been 10 episodes that have told a single story of the characters running around, interacting, having a lot of this and that, but we haven't had time to really get to know them or grow fond of them. I mean, for me, I can't right now, I mean, technically it's superior to all other animated series. So, get your act together this first season. We'll see how it ends, because it could end badly, but this first season could end very well. Exact.
I can't put it on the same level as Rebels or Bathbatch yet, because the second season of Bathbatch is really good, but it's the second season. Uh, it's still needed. It's needed. I still can't. We'll see.
Joan, I think it's a good product, but I agree with Ñigo that it still needs something more to complete it, but it could be in the top four, not in the top three, because I, I mean, I'm also more into what Clonew Revers is, but it could be there. And that's what I was saying at the beginning, that with a simple plot they have managed to make a very good series, which is what many fans were asking for, that by getting a good screenwriter it wasn't so hard to make a good product with a simple plot. Well, I think Maul is missing something, but it's up there with other animated series.
Look, I want to make a point about what you just said regarding The Clone Wars. I love The Clone Wars, I love that era of Star Wars, but I think this series has achieved something that Clone Wars didn't achieve, yes, the last season, but not the rest of the series, and that is to get to the point. There's no filler here. That's why for me it's a little better than Clone Wars, just for that reason, not because of the characters, but for that reason.
Then, of course, Clone Wars has a gigantic dimension, right? But it's also true that it was more childish and was a series with hundreds of episodes. I mean, doing a Clone Wars marathon now is a titanic feat because it had a ton of episodes, right? And then many episodes when episode 3 premiered in 2003, well from then on the fans were left a little orphaned until this series came out in 2006.
Yes. And we've drawn a bit from this.
Total, total, total, totally.
So, I do think it is one of the best series that have been made in the Star Wars universe.
Come on, Mar, I'm not alone. I think so. I think so. It's one of the best, isn't it?
And in terms of animation, it's clear that I find it very difficult to compare them. I mean, I feel more comfortable comparing Mall with Visions shorts, for example, because comparing them with Rebels and Clone Wars, which for me Rebels and Clone Wars, more Clone Wars, but Rebels are also children's series. They're just shows for kids.
They started out being childish because then, yes, things did get more complicated, but it still retained that childish tone, right? You had the Rebel crew, there was always that comedic timing, that kind of timing.
Uh, not with Mol, I mean, Mall doesn't joke around much, I mean, Mall is quite dark and goes straight to the point. So, I don't know, I mean, I think it's a good job.
I agree with Ñigo that a second season is needed to let things develop. Right now it ca n't excite us like it does me, at least Rebels excites me. If they show me a video of the last episode or the finale, the last 5 minutes of Revel, I'll cry. Yes, yes, yes. The thing is, Rebels, I mean, Rebels, I'm saying it, that's why I said Rebels is going to be very difficult to surpass for many reasons, but I do agree with you, uh, in the end the whole product, let's say, dictates the verdict of this story, right? But it is true that if I evaluate this single season as an animated product, as a Star Wars product within this universe, without having yet seen what is to come, visually, the characters, the presentation, the simple but very functional and practical plot for each and every one of the characters that appear, the Inquisitors, everything, in the end, man, it makes me feel like, "Damn, I really enjoyed Clone Wars, man, Clone Wars has the characters from my favorite era, the Jedi Order, Yoda, Windu, Anakin, Obi-Wan, but you say, "Damn, but there was so much filler, huh?" " Like Rebels, I remember it was a real struggle for me back in the day, when I was younger, to get into it. I started watching it and it didn't grab me because it seemed too childish. But then, a few years later, I put it back on and fell in love with it because what comes next is just amazing." And Bad Bats, it's true what Iñigo said, that the second season is fantastic, but I think it's more uneven across its three seasons. So, let's see where that goes, because you're right about that, and let's see what the final result is with Maul, Lord of Shadows. Okay, folks, that's it, let's leave it here for an hour and a half. Good summary, good analysis, a good overview of everything. And Iñigo, Joan, Mark, thank you all three for joining me for this great chat we 've had today about the Star Wars universe. Thank you, Ch.
Thank you, Rubén. I hope that... well, you guys have been back more than once, but Mark, I hope you'll come back and... See you Friday, okay? See you Friday.
For fatalities, fatalities.
[laughs] We'll be waiting in case you mentioned you wanted to do some more content with The Mandalorian when the movie comes out. We'll do some things. We'll do some things. Hey, follow these really nice people, please. Iñigo is mainly on X, Twitter. This guy is only on Insta, nowhere else.
No, Iñigo, I don't like it. I have Blue Sky and I have Instagram, but no.
Okay, [suppressed scream] Twitter because it's always a pleasure to read all his comments, especially about comics and novels, which, my god, this is a walking library too. My friend Mark, please, damn Mark and Joan. I'm so mad today, man, [laughs] with my friend Joan, who I've said more than once in many live streams, his Instagram of photos he takes with his figures and on Twitter also commenting on Star stuff Wars, so please follow him, and of course, follow the Jesus Christ of YouTube, my favorite Jesus Christ of YouTube, who, as you know, has his channel Marvo. I'm on everything. I'm on everything. He talks about absolutely everything he's passionate about, and a ton of movies and TV series. So, please, if you don't know him, which I doubt, then go check him out and follow him. And since you 're here, let me say a little something too. Subscribe, like, and all that stuff, please. Okay, like, man, like, it's free.
Damn, see you around, I don't know if we'll do anything else this week, something real. Well, Devil, Devil ends tomorrow.
We'll do something, we'll have to do a live stream next week, that's for sure, but we'll set the date, people, and all that later. Until the next live video.
Until then, never forget it.
Star Wars Forever. Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
He's thinking this.
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