Christian nationalism and white Christian nationalism are distinct concepts: Christian nationalism focuses on the primacy of Christian religion and values in public life, while white Christian nationalism emphasizes the preservation of white cultural and political dominance. The speaker argues that conflating these terms shuts down meaningful dialogue and that Christians should engage in respectful conversation rather than labeling opponents with inflammatory terms.
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On today's episode of videos I never ever thought I would have to make. I guess we're going to talk about something that I never ever thought that I would have to talk about because y'all keep telling me I need to talk about it.
So, here we are. All right. So, a little backstory. I was on threads the other day minding my own business and I made a post aboutnosticism because I've been reading a lot of different things about different religions and this wordnosticism keeps popping up and now I'm noticing it everywhere. It's like when you want a certain car and then you think about the car and then the next thing you know you see the car everywhere you go. It's like did the car just suddenly start popping up everywhere or or are you just more aware of it because you want the car? So that's what's happening. I'm seeing nasticism everywhere. So I made a post I thought was a very informative post or at least to me I thought it was informative a very informative post aboutnosticism and someone responded back with this.
Okay, actually let me let me tell y'all what I wrote. I said I said new thought andnosticism are so embedded in American evangelical churches that many Christians are preaching and practicing paganism unaware. Prayer, fasting, miracles, signs and wonders are all biblical, but they ain't the gospel. Christians need to be better discipled to recognize when the gospel has been hijacked by a shadowism and spirituality that subtly detaches believers from biblical and historic Christianity. That's all I said. That's all I said. Okay. I got a little clapback from someone. I'm not sure if she's still a subscriber of this channel, but we had a very interesting conversation. Here's what she said. I'm not going to say her name. I think we ended up having a cordial conversation once we wrapped it up. But here's what she said. With all due respect, I believe Christians need to be better discipled to recognize when the gospel has been hijacked by Christian nationalism and white supremacy of which I've never heard you speak or do apologetics against. As much as I loved your content, I sadly realize that you seemingly align with nationalism. Until I hear or see otherwise, it's hard for me to understand your apologetics against any other new thought, idolatry, ornosticism.
I added the H. Okay. So, I called a little stray and I was like, "Now, wait a minute. Okay, how am I how am I a Christian nationalist?" I think I basically asked her that like, "Why are you calling me a Christian nationalist?
What did I say that made you think that I'm a Christian nationalist?" She says, "It's not what you said, it's what you didn't say." And I'm like, "What? How did I, okay, okay, how how do I affirm Christian nationalism by not talking about it at all?" I have barely like grazed topics of politics lightly on the channel, but y'all know why I don't talk about politics? Because I don't know a lot about politics and I just think it's not a great idea to talk about things that you're not really informed about.
Now, as a Christian, I have my certain opinions about certain political issues, but I've never taken a political science class. Okay? I don't know much about politics. So, as much as I can, I try to stick to the scriptures in the way I look through the lens of politics, but I don't talk about it because that's just not my that's not my emmo. Okay? I come on here most of the time to talk about apologetics because that is something I'm passionate about and I love reading books about it and I love sharing the information that I'm learning with y'all and sometimes I learn stuff from y'all.
Okay, shout out to Jill Wah. You know what's up, Jillwa. Jill always be spitting facts in the comments. So anyway, that's why I don't talk about politics. But anyway, just because I haven't mentioned topics like Christian nationalism or all these other things.
Apparently, I'm now a sellout [ __ ] I've been disinvited from the cookout. Y'all been disinvited me from the cookout. Okay.
Ever since I uploaded that video sharing my thoughts on the passing of Charlie Kirk, it was like y'all was dropping like flies. And I was like, "Well, I guess I done did it now. My bad for having a little compassion for seeing a man unal alived in real time on the internet. My bad. I'm sorry. I guess that's not a Christian way to look at it. Like to be sad that somebody passed away in such a tragic way. Excuse me. Um y'all, if I'm being quite honest, I am so disappointed with a lot of the rhetoric that I'm seeing online from, you know, people that I respect, from people who I think I still consider them friends. I don't know if they would consider me friends, but that's part of the reason why I'm really not on social media as much as I used to be. It just got to be so toxic. I was like, man, I used to go on Facebook to have fun and have a little giggle and kiki and now everybody's mad all the time.
Everybody's calling each other names all the time and people aren't really trying to understand each other. They're just trying to throw mud and I'm like, I don't really I don't want to be a part of that. So, I kind of took a break from the platforms that I felt like I needed to take a break from. Some of those breaks are going to be probably pretty permanent. And now I'm spending more time reading the Bible, reading theology books, apologetics books, philosophy books, whatever I can get my hands on.
So I can just learn a little bit of something every day. Even if I have to read the same book a hundred times before whatever the concept is actually sticks, I'm going to I'm going to do that because I don't like arguing with people. It's just it's too much energy.
Okay. But what I've learned, and this is something that all YouTubers know, you absolutely can't win with the internet. You just can't win. I mean, I did a video maybe 6 months ago. When when was the whole uh that white dude that stormed into Jamal Bryant's church, that thing happened.
And I did a video basically saying, "Hey, I even though Jamal Bryan is a heretic, I don't think it's a good look for a man to storm into their church yelling at people because that would make me very uncomfortable if I was going there." Like, I would be like, "What are you going to do, sir? Like, why are you here? Why are you so mad?" I probably would not have stuck around. If it was me, I would have went on home.
So, I did a video about that. I said, "I don't think it was appropriate. I don't think it was Christlike." And I got I got this very interesting comment. Let's see if I can pull it up here. What what did this comment say? I'm not going to read this person's name either. Um he said, "Not agreeing or disagreeing with your notion that Christians should be able to respectfully challenge other Christians." All right, but you must add the additional dimension that Jamal Bryant's response brought into the fold.
One, from the pull pit, Bryant used no biblical verse to clap back. He said with thunderous applause, "The days in which they, the white man, can come up in our church, the black liberation theology church that is, and tell us what to do are over." Number two, political deflection.
When Don Lemon went into the sanctuary with a friendly group and disrupted a church service, Jamal Bryant took a camera and demanded they Trump Republican Pam Bondi, attorney general, go after the white man who violated his church with the same gusto she went after down limit. Man, so much done happened within the last year. Okay, that was number two. No, what's number three? Number three is the complaint media or compliant media. Compliant media, whatever. On ATL's ABCilia 11 live, Jennifer Bellamy, the studio news read a black female who eight months prior went to Jamal Bryan's church to lap dog his claims of how effective his target boycott has been. Not one single challenge question later on echo Jamal Bryan's demand to prosecute that white man who violated the black church. Now, I'm going to connect it all to you, Miss Tyrus Jones.
I really don't understand any of what he was really talking about as far as how this had anything to do with me. And he spelled my name wrong, but I was just like, okay, so I'm wrong for saying that someone shouldn't bombard a church even in the context of this whole racial political climate where racial tensions are, they're pretty tense right now. I just don't think it's a good look for the gospel. My bad for having that opinion. Okay, so this guy basically was like, um, you're not being faithful to the gospel because that man was working for the Lord. Okay, then I had this comment.
When morality is called into question, why is it always the black people that's immoral and focused on? White people have called themselves Christians for hundreds of years while doing some of the most heinous crimes, especially to black people. They did it then and still do it today. Jesus warned us about these people. My issue is why is the focus always on black people and their morality and not on white people and theirs? In the same way, everyone is laser focused on what black people do.
And no matter how racist, evil, and demonic white people are, if they put the word Christian in front of their names, then that's what they are. No matter how much evidence show that they're not, everyone should be held accountable. Yet, the only people I hear black conservatives hold accountable is black people. No matter what white people do, they are still held as Christians. Many of our black leaders died for the advancement of black people. The Dem Party has had leaders die for the advancement of black people.
They could have lived very different lives, but they chose to fight for Anyway, y'all get the point. Y'all get the point. Apparently, I'm a sellout because I don't even remember what video this was in response to. So, if you criticize white people, then you're wrong. If you criticize black people, then you're wrong. And I don't know if y'all notice this, but like I don't criticize people because they are black or or white. I criticize people who I think are doing something that's morally wrong or they're teaching something incorrectly from the Bible or just anything that I care about. Okay. I don't really know a whole lot about Christian nationalism. I do think that it's become a term that's used to describe anyone who's not a Democrat.
Basically, anyone who leans conservative, anyone who voted for Donald Trump, anyone who's associated with MAGA, it doesn't matter if you like full out MAGA or you was just like, I didn't want to vote for the man, but out of the options that we had, this was the best choice in my opinion.
All of those people are now considered Christian nationalists. And I'm just like, that don't seem right. Okay, that don't seem right. I don't think that that's what Christian nationalism is.
Oh, you voted for Trump, you're Christian nationalist. I don't I don't agree with that. And I don't think it's fair for people to to label folks that if that's not really truly what they are. And I think there's a lot of conflating going on between Christian nationalism and white Christian nationalism. And I'm not claiming to be an expert on it again, which is why I don't like talking about this stuff. I don't like talking about it, but things are getting so contentious and I just see a lot of name calling and I'm just like it's okay to disagree with people politically and I know I think that there's people really truly afraid on both sides. Some people think that Christian nationalism or racism in America is the biggest threat to America. Some people think that the biggest threats to America may fall under trans ideology, uh, possible Islamic takeover, socialism, communism, those types of things. Who's right about which one is the bigger threat? I don't think we know yet. Y'all can disagree with me on that.
I personally think it's probably on this side. socialism, communism, Islamic takeover, transgender ideology, all those things. Um, do I think racism is a problem? Yeah, it it is a problem. But me personally, I don't think that we should go the whole de deconstruction route and tear down the whole system and start from scratch and just assume that everything is going to be all honky dory when whatever it is is rebuilt is rebuilt. I think that's how a lot of countries in the past have fallen to totalitarian leaders. Okay. Um so yeah, I I just I think history will tell us who is right about which problem is actually the worst or the the most threatening. I don't know and I I don't claim to know. But all I can do is make decisions based on what I believe and based on the evidence that I'm seeing. The problem is a lot of our algorithms are telling different stories. Okay, I know everybody thinks your person is listening to an echo chamber. I think we're probably all listening to echo chambers, right?
That's what I personally think. And I think there's not a lot of there's not a lot of like nuance. Maybe I've said this already. I'm just kind of I'm just kind of talking right now, but seems like people aren't really being charitable in a lot of these dialogues. It's like, well, if you think racism exists, you're woke. I'm like, okay, woke, I used to think it meant one thing, and then I realized woke means different things to different people depending on the context. So, when Dr. Eric Mason uses the word woke in the book woke woke church. That's not the same as what a Fox News correspondent is going to mean when they use the word woke. It's also not going to mean the same thing as a Hebrew Israelite when they use the word woke. So I said all that to say I think something similar is happening with Christian nationalism because just like okay if people were saying hey I grew up in the hood and there there does seem to be laws that are impacting a specific demographic more harshly than others. So if you said that then some people on this side would say you're woke and I don't think that's fair. I don't think that's right.
But now fast forward several years, it's like if someone says, "Yeah, I'm no longer I'm not going to vote for Kla Harris because I don't think she would be a good president." "Oh, you're a Christian nationalist." Like, what?
That's That's a leap. That's a leap. Did you know that you could vote for somebody that you don't particularly care for or or like, but you just genuinely think that they are the better option? Didn't we all do that at the polls? And trust me again, I know I'm I'm talking about politics while also saying that I'm not talking about politics, which makes no sense. But let me tell y'all, I embarrassed myself on this internet, what about two years, two or three years ago, I did a little video about um transgenderism and I said something along the lines of, "The last time I checked, this is a de a democracy." And somebody was like, "Sis, this not a democracy, it's a democratic republic." And I was like, "Oh, you right." But because you hear so often it's a democracy. It's a democracy. Then you think, oh yeah, but we do have this little thing called the electoral college and we're not it's not fully democratic. We have all these people these elected officials who vote on our behalf. And I was like, all right, I had to eat that. I I said that on Beyonce's internet. I'll probably never forgive myself for it. So, and that and that's part of the reason why I was like, I don't think I'm ever going to really bring politics back up again. So, I'm breaking my own rule in doing this. Just I said all that to say, y'all, please, if you going to dialogue, dialogue like Christians, we don't have to agree. I do think a lot of the issues that we are arguing over are extremely important, but I don't think it should have to cost you a friendship. I'm just seeing so many people like completely the relationships just over with because of this political stuff and it's getting nasty and and I feel like the same way people felt like the word woke was weaponized or the meaning was hijacked and I agree that I think the meaning was hijacked from my understanding of the meaning. Take that with a grain of salt. Hijacked. Now, I think people are using um Christian nationalism as a way to basically shut down all conversation. So, if you say, "Yeah, I lean this way conservatively.
Oh, you're a Christian nationalist, so I can't listen to anything that you're saying and you are a horrible person and you are racist and you are this. You hate yourself as a black person." And there's just a lot of assumptions. I think a lot of false assumptions because there's so many different reasons why people voted the way that they did and why people believe the way that they do.
So if nobody else can have a peaceful discussion about politics, I think Christians should be able to do that.
like, you know, if if I'm wrong about my political leanings, do you think it'll be more effective to um trash talk me and tell me how stupid I am? Tell me how much I hate myself. Or like, wouldn't it be better to just lay out your arguments and say, "Hey, have you considered this and let's have a reasonable conversation and then see where it goes and then if I still don't change my mind, this is America, right?" Right. So, I'm I'm just disappointed. But I'm going to try to not feed into the toxicity.
That's my goal. It's to stay away from it because I don't want to hate nobody.
And I know my opinions can be wrong. I'm trying to like Lord, okay, with with the information that I have, this is the direction that I'm going. I'm trying to be faithful to your scriptures. I know a lot of people don't agree with me on that. And if I find out that uh I was wrong in my calculations, Lord, forgive me. Um I don't know what else to do at that point, but I don't think I'm wrong.
But that's the thing about deception.
Nobody ever thinks they're wrong when they're wrong. Or a lot of times we don't. Not when we're deceived. Okay? So you can think that you're doing the right thing and then be doing the wrong thing. But I do know like in scripture there's certain things that like we we should be fighting to preserve human life. Okay? So, I this is how I made my decision about which way I wanted to lean politically. I do think it's getting it's getting to a point I do think it's going to get to a point eventually where both parties are going to be so bad that Christians are going to be like, "Yeah, I'm not voting."
Well, and I know some Christians already feel like it's that way. I personally don't think it's that far yet, but time will tell. But, um, where was I going with that? Where was I going with that?
It's getting hard out here, but I think Christians, we we have to do better. Uh yeah. Uh the fight for life. I saw that being a a thing that on the left, there is a total disregard. And I'm not saying all people on the left are um pro-choice, but the total platform seems to be pro-choice. Okay? And then all of the LGBT things. Now this is America.
Although as a Christian I I believe in marriage being between one man and one woman as described in scripture.
Everybody don't believe that. Before a few years ago that wasn't legalized. Now it's legal. Well before a few years ago samesex marriage was not legalized. Now it is technically legalized. I do not agree with that. But people have the right to get that done. Okay. Um, if it had stopped right there, I think a lot of Christians would have been like, well, I mean, it is what it is. But it didn't stop right there. It kept going from, okay, well, now we have the right to be married. Now, some of us want to identify as a different gender, and we also want to enter your restrooms, and you can't say anything about it, and if you do, you're a bigot. And now you have men, biological men who are identifying as women, you know, being sent to female prisons and harming women. Now, that doesn't affect me, but some of these other things I do think are concerning.
And there's people in my life who are, you know, in elementary school, middle school, whatever. And I'm like, I care about what happens to them on campus.
So, if I'm voting for policies that could possibly put them in danger, I'm just why would I do that? Okay. I think that's a more pressing issue than racism. There are laws that protect you from being harmed because of your race. So, you have uh like hate crime laws, but you can't force people to not be racist. I mean, racism is just under the laundry list of all the reasons why somebody might not like you. I mean, there's plenty of men out there who won't like me because I'm a woman. There's people out there who don't like me because I'm black. There's people out there who don't like me because I'm an American. There's people out there who don't like me because I'm a Christian. I want all of those people to have that right. Just don't touch me.
Don't touch me and we'll be fine. But if you touch me, there's laws that are supposed to protect me as far as my family should get justice. You know what I'm saying? if something happened to me or you know if I survived some horrific event there that person should go to jail and be held guilty or responsible for whatever crime they committed against me. So, I just think like I don't know how much further you want to take it with the racism thing. Like, are we going to try to outlaw racism?
Because that that's a slippery slope because you're basically saying you want laws to force people to feel a way about you. And I think even if the law changed, you you still couldn't force people to feel away about you. Anyway, is any of this making any sense? This is a long rant, but I just wanted to speak to it because things is just getting ridiculous. Love your neighbor as you love yourself. Love your enemy as you love yourself. Treat people the way you want to be treated. I think it's much better to dialogue with people versus cutting them out. And I see all this name calling specifically today, labeling everybody and anything as Christian nationalist is just a way to shut down conversation. And I see it like cancel culture. It's like censorship.
And I also think it's because people don't want to like if you shut down the conversation then you basically keep the other person from being able to make their case. And so then you get all the that is how an echo chamber is created.
like hit this person with all types of uh criticisms that aren't valid. And people who don't who really aren't paying attention to their bad argumentation or their ridiculous claims are like, "Yeah, well, if you're a Christian nationalist, I'm just going to completely write you off." But if the person isn't a Christian nationalist and they actually have valid reasons for why they think the way they think or have their own perspective, then you haven't given the your side the opportunity to hear their case. And I I just think that's why those types of uh names have been called. That's why I was like, "Oh, if you're MAGA, nobody listened to them.
They're MAGA. Nobody." It's almost the same thing like even with Christianity.
Now, if you say you're a Christian that believes in orthodoxy, it's racist. Like all Christians are racist.
That's crazy. You know what I'm saying?
What's it? Atheists pull the same kind of stuff, too. You know, they'll say, "Oh, you can't know what Christianity is." Yeah, you can. You can know what Christianity is. No. Every every Christian, everybody believes different stuff. Well, but we all agree on the essentials. If you don't agree on the essentials, then you're not a Christian.
Oh, that's hogwash. It's like, okay, then a atheist, you tell me. Well, what do you believe? I don't have a belief.
Atheism is just a lack of belief. Like, it's it's a dodge. It's a dodge because if they don't define um their worldview, basically atheists, most atheists really their atheism is built on Christianity not being true.
But even if Christianity wasn't true, then you still have to have some type of belief system. Like your whole belief can't be, well, that thing isn't true.
Well, okay. So then what is true? Well, well, I don't have an answer for you.
It's a dodge. It's a way to keep them from having to defend why they believe atheism. So I I said all that to say that's the same thing or a similar thing that is happening in these discussions now. People want to shut down conservatives and I get it. The conservatives, the Republicans, the right, none of these groups are perfect.
Honestly, there's a lot to be concerned about. So I get it. But just please remember that I think again people are scared on both sides. So just have try to have a little grace. argue like a Christian, a good Christian, a a godly Christian. All right. All right. If you uh like this video, if you're still subscribed, because I I can hear the unfollowing.
If you unfollow me because of this, then you know, it is what it is. I'm just telling you, I'm just calling the spade a spade. If y'all think I'm a Christian nationalist, then it is what it is.
Actually, before I go, I did want to do this. I wanted to I just asked AI Google like, okay, AI Google, ain't nobody googling no more. I wanted to see what really are some of the key distinctions between Christian nationalism and white Christian nationalism because they aren't interchangeable, but people keep using them interchangeably. Again, I'm no expert on this, but like if they not the same thing, then let's stop calling them the same thing. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Okay. Okay. Key differences at a glance.
So in Christian nationalism the primary focus is the premacy of Christian religion and values in public life. All right. Is does anything heretical? Does that sound heretical to y'all? Okay.
White Christian nationalism. The primary focus is the premacy of Christianity and the preservation of white cultural political dominance. All right. So there's a distinction there. In other words, Christian nationalism doesn't have the element of white supremacy. So anyway, let's keep going. Second criteria, membership criteria. So Christian nationalists would say anyone who adheres to the correct and often conservative Christian doctrine. All right? So it's about their faith system, not ethnicity. White Christian nationalism, the criteria is you must be both a Christian and of European white descent to be considered a true American. All right. Demographics. So, Christian nationalists includes diverse followers from various racial and ethnic backgrounds, though largely conservative.
Whereas, white Christian nationalism is heavily tied to white evangelicalism, demographic anxiety, and historical white power structures.
So, not all there are Christian nationalists who are not white.
It's more so about believing that, if I'm understanding this correctly, it's the belief that America should be a Christian nation and everyone should follow Christian laws, which gets it gets to be confusing because it's like I think some people are now under the the belief system that uh Christians really should check their theology at the voting booth when everybody is taking their moral beliefs into the voting booth. To even say that I don't think you should vote based on your morals implies morality because where you getting this word should from should based on what? Based on what morality.
So, um, Christian nationalism is not the same as white Christian nationalism. And I'm not saying I agree with Christian nationalism. I just don't think they're the same. And I don't think Christian nationalism technically is, how can I say this? I think white Christian nationalism is not only false but inherently sinful because of the racist aspect. Whereas I think Christian nationalism is false but not necessarily sinful. Okay, those are my thoughts. I'm landing the plane. If you like this video, please give it a thumbs up. If you don't, that's fine, too. You can give it a thumbs down. Let me know what you hated about it in the comments. And on that note, I will catch y'all in the next video.
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