Hasan Piker, Cenk Uygur Address HORRIFYING Ban From UK

Added: 2026-06-02

[00:00:00]Welcome back to the young church anakasparian and Hassan joins us.

[00:00:04]>> So now that uh both Hassan and I are here where you're at serious risk of public disorder. So mayhem might break out at any second now. So we're both on Hassan stream on Twitch and uh our show on YouTube and everywhere else.

[00:00:21]>> Uh so Hos um uh >> can I start off with something a little different? So, uh, we're going to talk about Jen and Hassan getting banned from the UK, but I see this as part of a broader campaign targeting you, Hos, because I don't like being put in a situation where I have to defend you.

[00:00:39]I'm just going to keep it 100. Uh, but Dave Rubin went on a show and, uh, claimed that you harassed me and other women at work, which was a brazen lie.

[00:00:52]Uh, I went out and said that it was a brazen lie. you never once harassed me at work.

[00:00:59]What What do you think this is about?

[00:01:01]And why do you think it's okay or why do they think it's okay to just make up lies about you like that? I mean, like, sexual harassment is a serious allegation. And for Dave Rubin, who I haven't spoken to in over a decade, to speak on my behalf like that and make something up is insane.

[00:01:17]>> Yeah. I think uh it's a it's a campaign of misinformation and and smearing prominent critics of Israel. no matter which way they can. Uh, and it's very obvious that uh, they're getting increasingly more desperate. Now, with Dave Rubin, it's a unique predicament because on the one hand, I'm thinking like, is this a part of a broader sophisticated smear campaign or rather is it simply just Dave Rubin being stupid cuz he's just so unbelievably stupid? So, with Dave Rubin, you got to think about both of the options.

[00:01:51]>> True. Um, but yeah, I I do I do see a coordinated effort. Fox News is probably watching this broadcast right now. They have people stationed uh on my broadcast every single day. They just do like a like a transcript readout of every single thing that I talk about uh and and post about it and publish it. Uh on the other side, this is uh obviously escalated since the subpoena, which I never received, by the way. Um, but Will Kaine uh was was talking about how like uh some some counterprotesters that were at the Delaney facility in New Jersey that I went to with Adam Hamoi uh who's running for uh Congress in New Jersey uh to to check out uh the the uh heinous conditions inside of the facility and to hear from the protesters about the ways in which the state troopers in New Jersey and the federal ICE officers were actually brutalizing them for exercising their first amendment. human rights. Uh there were a lot of agitators, a lot of counterprotesters that were pro ICE and disruptors that were there uh specifically to yell at the uh protesters. They of course yelled at me as well. And Will Kaine earlier today covered that uh as though it was actually the the ICE protesters that were yelling at me. So, I feel like there is a there's this like effort to to slander and and smear uh prominent critics of Israel, prominent critics of the Trump administration. Uh no matter which way they can. Uh there's obviously uh a a bipartisan effort in some respects. Josh Godheimer earlier today also said I was uh because I called the the uh Israel Day parade that took place that had Bezel Smatra on a Nazi parade.

[00:03:32]I said there's Nazis at this parade.

[00:03:35]It's a Nazi parade and prominent Democrats like Chuck Schumer and Kathy Hokll were participating in a Nazi parade and and Josh Godheimer didn't like that.

[00:03:44]>> Uh and he was saying, you know, I've defended Hamas and therefore, you know, maybe my my um read for who's a Nazi is broken. He's been ducking me. Uh I've told him I'd be willing to have uh you know, like regular discourse with him.

[00:04:00]Um, but yeah, none of these guys uh want to actually entertain the conversation.

[00:04:04]They can't actually uh attack the message. They can't counter message, so they attack the messenger in despair.

[00:04:12]That's all they know. But I think people are fed up with it.

[00:04:14]>> They they'll call you anti-semitic, but they'll never never call you wrong, right? They never engage with the substance of what you're saying. So, it doesn't surprise me at all that God's running away. If he sat down and engaged in a debate with you, I mean, what's the substance of his argument? is you can't defend the indefensible. We all see what's happening in Gaza. We all see what's happening in Lebanon. We see the entire global economy being destroyed right now as we speak because of this war that the US got dragged into against Iran by Israel. So, I just feel like look, everything that's happening right now, they think it's going to work. Like these bans, they think it's going to work. The censorship, they think it's going to work. Everyone sees what's going on. And in fact, everything they're doing is actually incredibly counterproductive to what they want to accomplish here.

[00:05:00]>> Yeah. So, H, uh, to that point, uh, how do you think that the rest of this plays out? Right. I don't mean about the UK.

[00:05:08]We'll come back to them. Uh, in terms of whether we're ever allowed to go there again. I mean, it's hilarious. You were just there a little while ago. I was just there a little while ago to Mayhem didn't break out. The public order wasn't immediately destroyed, right? But like so the it feels like the powerful in in the US and the UK and in a lot of western countries but not all of them uh are starting to tighten their grip. Uh and that they've lost the media wars. So they're just going to outright oppression. But now the overwhelming majority of British citizens and American citizens are on our side, not their side. So how does this movie end?

[00:05:47]I mean, I I think uh inevitably there's going to be too much public pressure and once there's too much public pressure, um governments like our government here in the United States and governments in the UK and and you know, far beyond in Europe as well are going to have to make a decision. Quick question, when was the last time you went to bed before midnight without your phone lighting up your face? It turns out if you've got the news cycle on a loop in your head, it's harder to fall asleep. Here's what's actually happening. The stress, the screen time, the doom scrolling spiral, it raises your core body temperature. And a body that's too warm cannot get into deep sleep. You're not just tired because the news is exhausting. You're tired because your body never actually recovered. The good news is science has a real answer, and it's simpler than you think. Your bed temperature. Enter Chili Pad 2.0 You know, by Sleepme, the water-based mattress topper that actively controls your bed temperature from 55 to 115° all night long. No new mattress, no renovation. It actively cools just using water. Fans only move hot air around.

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[00:07:48]Free shipping, free returns, and a 30 night trial so you can test it out, dream big, and wake up better. The headlines will still be there in the morning. You might as well wake up ready for them. uh do they want to drop all pretense that uh they have a democratic process that they care about like liberal humanitarian values that they claim to espouse they claim to care about or are they going to increase the repression and unfortunately uh what a lot of people either don't understand or are moving in the direction of is exactly that uh what did the UK do they they uh prescribed Palestine Action as a terrorist organization and then they started started arresting on mass thousands of pensioners, um you know, disabled protesters, uh young people that would dare to say that they support Palestine action. Um >> well, they're so dangerous. They're so dangerous. All those elderly people that they rounded up and arrested. So dangerous. And by the way, Hos, you know, Jenk alluded to the fact that you were in the UK not that long ago. And I want to show everyone what you were talking about when you were in the UK not too long ago. Let's take a look at that. Anti-semitism is a canary in the coal mine of fascism.

[00:09:03]It's one of the oldest bigotries that has caused those of the Jewish faith a tremendous amount of pain. From pros to the Holocaust, Jews have always been singled out by those in power as a scapegoat for instability and economic volatility. People in power cause a resilient nent anti-semitism is a constant threat, especially as economic instability makes those in power seek out old targets. They're not very creative usually. They just always rehash the same propaganda over and over again.

[00:09:36]This is precisely the reason why I am terrified of the conflation of anti-ionism and anti-semitism. The conflation is dangerous.

[00:09:46]Valid criticisms against the state, especially as all of the violence is unfolding and everyone can see it. um valid criticisms against the state committing these atrocities and tying it back to Judaism is a cynical ploy to stop all matter of of conversation is truly terrifying and I think it directly causes anti-semitism to fester >> and look I agree with everything you said there and I don't see the Zionist project as a project that seeks to protect the Jewish population in fact they couldn't care less about anti-zionist Jews and the treatment of anti-Zionist Jews makes that abundantly clear to me. I mean, look at the way they talk about people like Dave Smith, uh, Glenn Greenwald and others. And it's just, it's amazing to me that the people who are getting punished right now are those who have a problem with mass slaughter campaigns and land theft. It's insane. That's not really a question. I just wanted to make that.

[00:10:48]>> No. Yeah. I I'm But I'm curious to for Hans to finish his thought. Yeah. Uh, so now that the audience has seen, of course, you didn't say anything anti-Semitic. In fact, you said the exact opposite. Literally the exact opposite, right? So, but how does this movie end? Because now our governments say, "We don't care what you think. It doesn't matter. We're just going to oppress you on behalf of Israel."

[00:11:08]>> Yeah. I don't I don't know. There's only two options out of this, obviously. It's either deescalation uh on behalf of of uh the British government, on behalf of the American government. And we have seen some uh deescalation on other issues from the American government like in Minneapolis where there was far too much public pressure through these peoplebacked campaigns of uh you know people going out and protesting against ICE activity. It was an occupation by the Trump administration and there was some success there. So even the most powerful country on earth, the United States of America, was uh able to cave and capitulate to the demands uh by by the public when it got, you know, uh far too heated, I guess. And of course, they ended up uh assassinating two American citizens in broad daylight in the process. Um I guess a similar thing could take place in the UK with this issue as long as the protests continue because like I said, at the end of the day, they have to make a decision. Are they going to allow fascism to manifest or are they going to maintain the the the pretense that democracy and the democratic process still works? Because it's gotten to a degree where the overwhelming majorities of masses in almost all of the uh western countries have realized what's going on and they can't really arrest every single person, right? So, uh, they might have the moneyed interest, they might have a pervasive, sophisticated influence pedalling operation that they've utilized, uh, for decades. Uh, but we have the people. Uh, and the people are are not they're not giving in. As a matter of fact, this kind of uh additional state repression only angers the people further and it actually causes people who were maybe on the sidelines who might have seen the violence but never really thought about it all that much because it's just happening over there or maybe you're afraid of of Muslims and and think they might have deserved this kind of violence or whatever to now second guessess to now actually uh become participants because what people don't appreciate is being bullied. What people don't like is cancel culture. And Israel loves bullying people. Israel's envoys, Israel's most prominent defenders are some of the most annoying people you've ever encountered. So when they go on television and demand with maximum arrogance, with maximum hubris, unconditional support, and then they turn around and say, "If you say no to that unconditional support, you're an enemy and you need to be uh deplatformed. You need to lose your job.

[00:13:50]Uh you can't live in polite society anymore. You can't exist as a normal person." Well, then that causes a lot of people to to get frustrated at Israel even more than they uh previously would have. I've even brought this example up with the UAE. There is no United Arab Emirates lobby in the United States of America. Sure, they directly, you know, give money uh as little Israel to uh Donald Trump and whatnot, but ultimately there isn't this like sophisticated uh media machine uh working at the behest of the United Arab Emirates that says like, "Oh, if you ever bring up Sudan, you're actually an Islamophobe uh and therefore you need to be punished. You need to lose your job."

[00:14:30]But if that was the case, I think that a lot more Americans would be paying attention to what the United Arab Emirates is doing. And I think the the Zionist lobby is suffering from its own success. For years and years, they went uncontested. They were it was it was unconditional. There was bipartisan support for Israel uh and and anyone that ever questioned that would be called an anti-semite. And there was a lot of weight to that criticism. There was a lot of weight to that accusation.

[00:14:58]Now, that's gone. Uh, and the reason why that's gone is because everyone understands that Israel is committing a genocide. And that genocide has caused people to look back at Israel's history, Israel's development, and and Zionism as an ideology. And it's caused people to understand that perhaps they they totally misunderstood uh the history of Israel for the longest time. And the toothpaste is out of the tube. Mhm.

[00:15:24]>> Uh so so either governments that are are uh controlled and have some sense of responsibility uh to the the masses will turn around and say, "All right, enough is enough.

[00:15:38]We have to cut ties with Israel. We have to restrain Israel. Uh this this coalition that we've designed can't continue." Or they're going to become just like Israel. As I said, they're going to turn into fascist countries.

[00:15:50]>> I'm worried. I mean things look very bleak and you know you pointed to the event that took place in New York City over the weekend and I want to kind of flesh that out a little bit for the audience in case they missed that story because you know Israel's faright finance minister Bosel Smotri was seen in New York City alongside Democrats. This is for the Israel Day parade over the weekend. Now, Zuran Mamdani, the mayor of New York City, was just he was facing all this backlash because he's the first mayor in 61 years who refused to attend the Israel Day parade. And I'm glad that he did refuse considering the fact that there was a liberal war criminal there. Uh so, let's take a look at this J Street post on X.

[00:16:34]They write Bosel Smootrich should be sanctioned by American political and Jewish communal leader leaders, not marching alongside them in the streets of New York City. uh Smootrich is the architect of the Israeli government's policies to ultimately annex the West Bank said that it may be just and moral to starve 2 million Gaza residents. Uh but no one in the world uh would let us.

[00:16:58]He is a supporter of greater Israel. We all know what that is. Believes Palestinians aren't even real people uh or a a people. and is um you know someone who has played a huge role in annexing parts of the West Bank, forcing people, Palestinians namely out of their homes. He's the International Criminal Court even has a warrant out for his arrest. Take a look at this headline.

[00:17:22]Exclusive ICC prosecutor's office seeks arrest warrant for Israel Smutri. He's marching alongside Chuck Schumer and a whole host of other Democrats at this parade over the same weekend that you and Jen get banned from the UK because you speak out against these atrocities.

[00:17:40]>> It's a flex. The There's no other way to read it than uh it's a flex. They're they're flexing on us. Uh they get to have tremendous power uh and and tremendous influence over what Western countries do and can't do. And this is a product of that. Uh there's no other way to read it as anything but uh a direct uh a direct threat to uh what the American government or what the American public has to say. That's what I think is going on. It's about sending a message. That's why Bezos lost is there.

[00:18:14]Um and and you brought up J Street and I find that really funny cuz like liberal Zionism is inherently contradictory.

[00:18:21]This is one of the things that people get very mad at me about because I say liberal Zionism is like saying you're a liberal Nazi because Zionism is racism.

[00:18:28]Zionism is Nazism.

[00:18:29]>> I agree with and and a lot of people get very frustrated with this and and as a matter of fact, uh Dre Street's president has gotten very frustrated with this. He's had conversations about the sentiment with the Pod Johns over at Pod Save America. Um, and it's this is a direct demonstration of that inherent contradiction because there were a lot of statements that came in the aftermath of of uh the the news articles that came out about bezel sponsors being at the Israel parade and some people were trying to say, "Oh, he snuck in." Or uh some people were were claiming that like no one knew he was going to be there and it's like it's the Israel parade. If you go to the clan march, you're going to have the grand wizard of the KKK at the clan march. You can't turn around and be shocked and act all surprised that that you know a member of the Israeli cabinet, the finance minister of the nation state that you're choosing to celebrate appear at the actual celebration. Of course, he's going to be there, right? Um, so I think all of the uh all of the the the ass covering that Kathy Hokll and even Alex Boris, which is very disappointing that he attended that as well. He's too young. He knows better and his father knows better, too.

[00:19:46]Um uh but all these people that are like, "Oh, I can't believe that the the Nazi was at the, you know, Nazi parade."

[00:19:53]Are are just trying to engage in uh in this same uh liberal cognitive dissonance.

[00:20:01]uh the the idea that liberal Zionism is is in some ways uh different than the ultra Zionism demonstrated by Bezel Mothridge. It's not he's he's a part of the Israeli government. Uh he is perhaps the purest expression of of the Israeli state's violence against Palestinians.

[00:20:20]It's racism that it harbors against non-Jews uh and and Jewish supremacy. Uh of course he's going to be there. he was elected uh and and he has every right to be there if you're going to throw an Israel day parade. You shouldn't throw an Israel day parade and you certainly shouldn't participate in the Israel parade if you don't want to be caught next to war criminals.

[00:20:42]>> Mhm.

[00:20:42]>> Yeah. So, uh H I was going to ask you about Labor and the Democrats. I'll come back to that. But there's something you said there that I'm curious about. So look, you look back at Zionism. I think you're totally right about uh one of the things that you said where you said uh now that the all these atrocities has made us look back and you uh we were taught um in America when I was growing up here that 1948 was the Arabs attacked the poor Israelis for no reason at all.

[00:21:11]And like the Israelis were the victims.

[00:21:13]Now you realize no, it was ethnic cleansing. That's what the knockb was.

[00:21:17]uh they drove out 750,000 uh Palestinians from their lands. They slaughtered them and killed them and that's why people had to run. Uh and so our media lied to us about that. They lied to us about 1967 where again Israel attacked its neighbors. We were taught that they were attacked. It's just not true. Now people go, "Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Well, of course we lied about that." So I understand all that background. No question about it. And so when you look back at it, should they have done uh this, you know, this Zionism idea which has ethnic cleansing built into it in order to be a settler colony? Now, that seems hard to defend certainly. Now, Israel already exists.

[00:21:55]So if today uh Israel and and and the Palestinians made a deal and they had two states, assume for a second that that's remotely possible and it was based on the 1967 borders and they were both two independent safe states. I would take that deal in a second. Uh no matter how wrong Zionism was in the beginning, would you take that deal or do you think that's since Zionism is wrong, it's unconscionable?

[00:22:21]Oh, I I personally think that it's just not up to me. I I I think that whatever is good for the Palestinians, like Palestinian statethood is good for the Palestinians, that's what they're trying to move towards. If that means that there is a two-state deal with 1967 borders and Palestinians are happy with that, then who am I to tell them no? Um my I say I'm a one-stater for the the reasons that you just brought up, right?

[00:22:47]Uh and there are some people who actually disagree with me on this as well. Um but the reason why I say I'm a one stator is the same reason why Avi Shalim also eventually arrived at that same conclusion and I believe so did Elon Pap. These are two very prominent new historians from Israel. They're Jewish. They uh they uncovered uh a lot of the uh atrocities that took place during the Nagba and after the Nagba as well. obvious specifically about uh what the what the experience for uh Arab Jews was like moving to Israel and why they had to move to Israel and then Elon Pap specifically about planned ballot. So their assessment is uh the same as mine.

[00:23:28]They look at 750,000 Jewish settlers that now illegally occupy both eastern Jerusalem and the rest of the West Bank, the occupied West Bank that is currently occupied illegally by the Israeli state uh to specifically design a non-ontiguous Palestinian state. Uh and and the removal of 750,000 uh Jewish settlers from the uh occupied West Bank is virtually impossible. Um, I don't think that they would ever do it.

[00:23:59]Israel had a very hard time removing settlers from uh the the Sinai Peninsula at the time. Uh, and they had an even harder time removing only 7,000 uh Israeli uh Jewish settlers from the Gaza Strip when they pulled out of the Gaza Strip to like hermetically seal it uh and and create the world's largest open air prison. They had to genuinely go there by force and remove people at gunpoint, right? 750,000 of the most rabid uh ultra Zionists are most likely never going to leave unless they have to leave because they have to live in a bational state or a single solitary secular state that now places non-Jews and Jews in the same civil court system.

[00:24:45]Um what I what I envision uh is what would look a lot like uh reconstruction but hopefully not a failure like reconstruction inevitably was. Uh what I predict in that situation would that there would still be violence of course uh in the initial stages but most likely violence resembling the clan violence that took place uh in in uh segregated uh in the segregated American south. Um, but that is my uh that is my northstar.

[00:25:15]That's what I think is the best possible outcome here. Um, that's the most moral outcome, which of course would still uh offer reparations to the Palestinians for stolen land and also death and destruction that befell them at the hands of Israel. Uh, and beyond the reparations, uh, certainly a right to return to all 15 million Palestinians.

[00:25:35]Um, so that's that's what I believe is is just and moral and that's what I uh will continue to advocate for. But if there is a a 1967 boundary to state with a standing military, not something that Yetsak Rabbine even uh was on board with, if you recall, a lot of u uh Israelis will say he was a peace. He was a blowhard. Yet Rabbine was uh the head of security, internal security at the time when the first inifat was taking place. and he was famous for demanding that the Israeli military break the bones of little children. They did this by the tens of thousands uh little Palestinian kids whose hands were broken on purpose because stonethrowing had become a symbol of the Palestinian resistance in the first inifatada. That guy always uh said that there would be a two-state but the second state would never be a full state. It would be a reduced version of an actual state. And what that implies is uh that the Palestinians would never have uh full sovereignty. They would never have a standing military, for example. Uh so that's the reason why I always look at the two-state solution as simply uh a continuation of what's actually taking place right now. a one state that is an apartheite state, a one state that is uh dominating and occupying Gaza and also occupying uh the West Bank as well and and destroying Palestinian lives and livelihood in both of these territories uh and and dangling this fake two-state solution in front of uh liberal blowhards uh in the Western world to make it seem like there is actually a peaceable solution out when it's just a continuation of the destruction of Palestinians. uh uh with the final purpose of of complete ethnic cleansing from their indigenous lands.

[00:27:23]Yeah.

[00:27:24]>> And they're not going to stop there, as we've learned, with what they're currently doing in Lebanon. And so this is this is a project that spans far beyond uh Palestinian territory. And it's not going to stop unless these so-called liberal democracies do something to stop it and stop enabling and emboldening uh the Israelis to do it. Yeah. So, I think last thing here, so I agree with you guys on on a bunch of things, including um at some point the dam's going to break. Uh I mean, so like people get offended that H called them Nazis or whatever, right? Uh but wait a minute, they they the Knessa voted that that Palestinians will never be free. Uh the Israelis have said even their theoretical peace that no, the Palestinians can never have a full state, right? let alone I don't mean all the peace things. There's a lot of good people like Gideon Levy, etc. in Israel, right? But uh but any of the >> anti-ionists?

[00:28:24]>> Yeah. Um but but the Zionists say no, the Palestinians will never be free. Uh they and they presumably they'll always live in these open air camps or you can can I say concentration camp? They are concentrated in a tiny area of Gaza.

[00:28:39]Netanyahu bragged that they that they've taken 70% of Gaza and they've stuffed 2.2 two million people of what's left of the small portion of Gaza. I mean, what is that if it's not a camp where that is concentrated full of millions of people?

[00:28:53]So, if you're offended by our words instead of what Israel has actually done, well, that that shows moral weakness on your part.

[00:29:01]>> Let me read some offensive words real quick. This is a statement from Basel Smootrich on Channel 14. This is one of his latest comments. In the West Bank, we are destroying more Palestinian family homes than they can build. We are demolishing residential buildings of four, five, and even six stories. Now, there is much more destruction and demolition of Palestinian homes.

[00:29:26]I think those are the types of statements that people should be offended by.

[00:29:30]>> Yeah. And we're going to show later in the show uh you know Ben Gavir talking about how they're going to bomb the suburbs of Beirut and mass civilian casualties and because that's what Israel does. And then we have look to me the number one thing holding this dam together is American uh mainstream media. Uh because without the propaganda there it's this is not a close question.

[00:29:54]Why would anybody want to finance these sick atrocities? The American people are not that are not anywhere near that evil. American media is that evil. They say you have to finance it otherwise we'll ruin your life by calling it anti-semite. Anyway, so look, all this is clear. tt.com/ukban to which just a little petition to say reverse the ban. That's fun. But but Hos, the last question I wanted to ask you is, so you see Labor wrapping their arms uh bear hugging Isaac Herszog, the head of the Israeli Air Force, and going, "Oh my god, these guys who committed a genocide are wonderful. Oh, but the guys opposed to a genocide are evil." Right? And then here in America, as you guys are pointing out, the Democrats are like, "Oh yeah, I'll go to a parade with a guy who committed a genocide." And in fact, it's one of the biggest advocates if there was any justice in the world would be the first guy up in the Nuremberg type of trials.

[00:30:48]And so, and they go, "Yeah, that's legitimate, but Hassan campaigning with Abdul says, uh, disqualifying and illegitimate, etc." So, is there any hope left for the Democratic Party and the Labor Party, which appear to be the fake left in both of these countries, or and if there is no hope, what do we do next?

[00:31:06]So, I don't think there's any hope left for the Labor Party, and that is entirely in the hands of of the the Jeremy Corbin assassin himself, Kier Starmer. Uh they they deliberately destroyed the the actual populist wing of their party. Uh and they did it at the behest of Israel as well. Labor Friends of Israel was a huge part of the uh fake anti-semitism smears and accusations that Jeremy Corin was inundated with. and uh and and Akir Starmmer uh famously said, "If you don't like what I'm doing, you can leave the party." And many people did. Where do they go? They went to the Green Party uh that is uh being led by Zack Palansky, um who is is a wonderful guy. He's an anti-ionist. He's also Jewish. Uh they attack him quite a bit uh because of his anti-ionism, ironically enough. Uh he has withtood some of the most heinous smears I've ever uh ever seen. British media can be very very vicious. Uh even far more vicious than the American media at times. And so there is an alternative there. Um with the Democratic party, uh a lot of people get mad at me for saying this as well, but I I see a very weak party. The party uh is not a real party, right? It's a it's a coalition of different corporate interests and you know, foreign lobbies at times. Uh and by foreign lobbies, I just mean Israel.

[00:32:26]Let's be real. there isn't like a like a profound Estonian lobby that is dominating Democratic party attitudes if we're being real, but there is a there is a real disconnect between uh those who are voting for the Democrats and what their demands are and what the Democrats are willing to concede to on those demands. And uh and therefore I see this as a wonderful opportunity uh in all of this weakness to force in as many responsive politicians uh in this uh insurgent uh Berniercrat uh coalition that is forming all around the country.

[00:33:02]Uh there are plenty of of democratic socialists who are open socialists uh and even those who aren't socialists but uh but have similar interests and similar goals, similar policy goals who are willing to be the fighters uh that will hopefully change American trajectory from the downward trajectory that we've been experiencing for the past couple of decades into a more positive one. uh people who aren't afraid to say uh why do we have so much loyalty to the nation state of Israel when it's very clear that it's done a genocide when it's very clear that it's an apartheid state why are we constantly waging wars with other countries and and spending billions of dollars of tax revenue we should instead take that money and spend it on ourselves all this productive output that's being stolen from the average American uh things that actually Donald Trump lied about uh and and lied his way to the office twice as a matter matter of fact, isolationism, America first, these were uh important concepts that Trump advanced uh that he never really followed through on. Uh but I do believe that there are those who are invested in following through on this and and as long as the uh Democrats don't uh you know expel people like myself and and the candidates that I work with uh in the primary system as they've had a very hard time dealing with uh Democrats who are actively uh pushing the needle on these issues. Uh, I'm going to continue trying to to uh win as much power for uh people who do abide by uh anti-ionism and who want Medicare for all, who want uh to end uh America's endless militarism.

[00:34:41]>> Yep. All right. So, everybody check out Hassan's show on Twitch, but you can also see clips on YouTube, so check out his channel there as well. Um, we've got a fun shirt up on shopty.com about how we were both banned in the UK. I guess we're outlaws and enemies of the crown, which is kind of badass. Uh, and by the way, H, I realized this today. Uh, we, uh, I believe are the only ones to have two family members banned by the United Kingdom. So, hence the most dangerous family in the history of >> the British Empire is right. Okay. So, I didn't think that we'd get that kind of I don't know, in a sense, an accolade or an honor of some sort. And let me double down on what Ha said. Zack Palansky, head of the Green Party in the UK, is awesome. Make sure you check that out.

[00:35:30]Uh and and that's a really legitimate way to go in the United Kingdom. And here in America, the takeover of the Democratic Party, I don't believe in 2028 should even be that difficult. So, uh most of the candidates are going to be pro- Israel and tell us how wonderful that country is. and you will find the candidates that are authentically uh in favor of American sovereignty instead of serving another country. Uh and I think that we could do that in 28. And um thanks Hos. We appreciate it. Uh and uh and we'll see if we can ever go back to the UK and maybe we'll do that speech at Oxford Union together anyway because Oxford Union is trying to put that together even if it's virtual. So that might even be later this week so everybody can check that out. Um and and when we come back later in the program, uh what we're going to do next is how Israel's currently destroying the peace plan that we have by defying Donald Trump and bombing Lebanon. So Hans, thanks for joining us. Really appreciate it.

[00:36:28]>> All right, thanks for having me. Bye, guys.

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