Adam Mockler SLAMS MAGA Panel's Defense With a Single Question

Added: 2026-05-31

[00:00:00]Yeah. Michael, Michael, I I consider myself a conservative. I'm in favor of rigorous enforcement of our immigration laws.

[00:00:06]Um but I want to ask you a question about tactics. Okay, so even setting aside I think there are legitimate legal issues here that we could ask about fourth amendment issues, etc. Hey everybody, welcome back to the channel. Your boy is locked in and ready to break this one down piece by piece.

[00:00:20]So in today's clip you are about to watch Adam Mockler step into the lion's den and go head to head with Michael Knowles and a panel of conservative voices over the shooting of Renee Nicole Good by an ICE agent. The constitutional questions surrounding due process and whether the entire defense being pushed on national television actually holds up under even basic pressure. I am telling you right now you do not want to skip a single second of this one because the moment things crack open is something you have to see with your own eyes to fully believe. Before we get into it, do me a quick favor and drop a comment letting me know what country, what state, what city you are tuning in from.

[00:00:53]I genuinely love seeing where this community is growing. All right, let us get straight into it.

[00:00:58]Uh Michael, Michael, I I consider myself a conservative. I'm in favor of rigorous enforcement of our immigration laws.

[00:01:04]Um but I want to ask you a question about tactics. Okay, so even setting aside I think there are legitimate legal issues here that we could ask about fourth amendment issues, etc. But I just want to ask you, let's assume that sort of the public backlash to what's going on right now with ICE, you know, stopping people in the street, pulling them out of the cars, going door to door, is sufficient to cause some sort of landslide in the midterms against the Republicans. Let's assume that that leads to Donald Trump getting impeached.

[00:01:28]Let's assume that leads to maybe by the end of the Trump term uh deporting fewer people than we saw under Obama. Would you not admit that maybe tactically mistakes have been made? That this is bad optically at the very least, even if you dismiss the legal issues. Yeah, I don't I don't think so because I don't know what the alternative is. You know, what the people voted for is mass deportations. What we've gotten so far I actually think they did they vote for that? The Obama Well, when people are trying to run over cops, I voted for that.

[00:01:53]>> Okay, so you thought you loved due process, no?

[00:01:55]>> But So was she guilty of You don't get due process when you're running someone over? You just get to There's That's not true. Okay, so why won't they let the DOJ do an investigation then if they're so right and crap?

[00:02:05]No, they're not. They shut it down.

[00:02:07]No, there's not. So, answer the question. Why won't they do that?

[00:02:10]Okay, so that's a deflection. Let's go back to it.

[00:02:14]>> [laughter] >> I'm following those rules. Okay, because that's because you don't want to answer the question. Okay, go ahead. We'll get to whatever you want to talk about later, but first it's his turn.

[00:02:24]It's my what? It's your topic. But it's his question. This is This is why she doesn't Okay, it's like the order of events. This is why we don't understand what happened with the lady running him over. So, the So, to your question, tactically is this a bad idea? I don't think so. Some people say that Barack Obama deported three or 400,000 people.

[00:02:41]It's kind of fake because they're counting turnbacks among that. He did deport some people, but it's kind of fake because they're counting turnbacks.

[00:02:46]Right now, the border is totally shut down. President Trump, I think probably has deported in his first year a little over 500,000 people, like 525 or 530,000 people. I do believe and I I buy the labor studies that have come out that there have been a lot of self-deportations because of the optically brutal ICE raids. I think that's part of it, too. So, President Trump says he's deported over 2 million people. It's possible. It's somewhere between half a million and 2 million. Uh compared to the to the Biden administration where they were letting in 3 million people a year, obviously that's a huge turn in direction. My question is, how are you going to get mass deportations, which most of the conservatives I think would agree, we're not even getting enough mass deportations. How are you going to get that if you don't go from job site to job site, from town to town, and try to round people up? Is that going to involve bad optics for leftists? It is.

[00:03:32]I just don't know what the alternative is. Well, I think first it might require more funding for things like immigration judges who could process these deportations. But But I think also we're talking about like 16 million people.

[00:03:42]If it turns out, let's just assume a hypothetical world where there is a Democratic landslide and Trump gets impeached over this, and we find as a result of surveying people who voted against Republicans in that election that a big part of this backlash was due to this type of ICE enforcement, are you not going to think that the oh, maybe we could have done this a little bit differently?

[00:04:00]>> the So, you mentioned we need Yeah, sure. Adam can answer.

[00:04:03]You have to understand something right off the bat. When a self-described conservative stands up and basically tells the panel, "Hey, what if your own tactics cost you the midterms? What if this whole approach blows up in your face?" That is not a gotcha from the left. That is somebody on the same team pulling them aside and saying, "Brother, read the room." And the response he got back was honestly one of the most revealing moments of the entire debate.

[00:04:25]The conservative panelist asked this very simple, very fair question. He said this, "Would you not admit that maybe tactically mistakes have been made? That this is bad optically at the very least, even if you dismiss the legal issues?"

[00:04:36]That is a layup. That is a question designed to give Michael an off-ramp.

[00:04:40]Just say, "Yeah, optics could be better.

[00:04:41]We are reviewing the approach, blah blah blah." Instead, Michael doubles down and says he does not see an alternative, which is wild to me, because the alternative is literally what every functioning democracy on Earth does. You enforce the law without turning grandmothers into trending hashtags. And then Michael drops this line that I cannot stop thinking about. He goes, "When people are trying to run over cops, I voted for that." Excuse me, you voted for that? You voted to skip the investigation? You voted to skip the body cam review? You voted to skip the courts? Because last time I checked, you do not get to vote away the Constitution. And Michael followed it up by saying, "You don't get due process when you're run running someone over."

[00:05:17]That is the part that should terrify every single American watching this, regardless of party, because the moment you accept that the government gets to decide who deserves due process based on a TikTok clip, you have just handed every future administration a blank check. Today it is somebody you do not like. Tomorrow it is somebody you love.

[00:05:35]That is how it always works. And Adam catches it immediately. He goes, "Will they let the DOJ do an investigation then if they're so right and correct?"

[00:05:42]That question alone collapses the entire defense, because if you are confident in your version of events, you welcome the investigation. You demand it. You hold a press conference about it. The only people who shut down investigations are the people who already know what an investigation would find. Alternative is a moderate immigration policy like we saw under Obama. Do you know what they called him? The Deporter-in-Chief.

[00:06:04]>> Yeah, but they were wrong. Okay, [laughter] they called Obama the Deporter-in-Chief.

[00:06:07]The problem here isn't the mass deportations. The problem as he points out are the brutal videos coming out of those that ICE is losing popularity with the public population. Obama deported a massive massive amount of people, but we didn't see the >> Adam, do you dispute the turnbacks?

[00:06:20]>> But let me see Do you dispute that most of them were turnbacks, turnaways?

[00:06:23]>> They were turnbacks, but not most of them. They called him the Deporter-in-Chief, and he did that without cracking the ribs of 79-year-olds, without shooting US citizens, without deporting people with zero due process, and then bringing them back to their African country.

[00:06:33]>> Do you agree that Trump has deported more people than Obama?

[00:06:35]>> Yes, but in a he's deporting people that he shouldn't be deporting. 75% of them have no criminal background, no violent criminal record.

[00:06:42]>> are they illegal aliens? Um they should He's deporting people with no due process.

[00:06:46]>> Are they illegal aliens?

[00:06:47]>> Kilmer Armando, yes, but Kilmer >> But then they should be deported. Do you think people should Do you think illegal aliens Is there due process? I- illegal Are we joking? Wait, [screaming] do you guys think that's Do you guys think that illegal aliens then you're wrong. The Constitution specifically says in the Fifth Amendment that persons, not citizens >> we can expedite their due process.

[00:07:03]>> wait, hold on, hold on.

[00:07:05]Can you just say if I'm right or wrong?

[00:07:06]Does the Fifth Amendment specifically say persons, and then that was upheld in a Supreme Court case that it's persons, not citizens? Then look it up. In the enforcement of American immigration law, we sometimes do things a little more efficiently. We in for instance deported a million people in the 1950s under President Eisenhower. If we were to give a lengthy trial to the 16 to 30 million illegal aliens who are in the country, we would never deport any of them. I'm not asking for a lengthy trial for someone like Kilmer Armando Breo Garcia, right? The thing is when he got deported over to El Salvador No, I'm I'm not.

[00:07:38]I have a pretty moderate immigration policy. I I people should be here legally. Illegal immigration should be minimized. We should know everybody that's here, but like most Americans, guys, this isn't even me living out.

[00:07:47]Most Americans do not like to see these videos that are going everywhere. Most Americans don't like to see grandmas and abuelas being pulled off the street, and I keep going back to this >> There aren't that many abuelas. Come on.

[00:07:56]There aren't that many Wait. Are you okay with the US citizens that have gotten caught up? So, I keep going back to this case, but a 79-year-old US citizen got his rib cracked by an ICE agent and is now suing the DHS. So, I think it's very unfortunate when innocent It's a very small number, but when innocent people or American citizens or legal residents are caught up in these raids. The problem is illegal aliens don't walk around the country with a big sign saying, "I'm an illegal alien." So, the problem was created by those who allowed the millions of illegals to come in, and now Trump's cleaning up the mess.

[00:08:23]>> is you guys can never admit when ICE does anything wrong whatsoever. So, there was an article from Slate that came out just 2 days ago where I'll never admit anything in Slate.

[00:08:31]This is where the entire MAGA narrative on immigration falls apart in real time, and I want you to pay close attention to how it happens.

[00:08:38]Because Adam does something here that is honestly a masterclass in debate. He does not pretend the other side has no point. He does not say nobody should ever be deported. He literally calls himself a moderate, and that is what makes what he says next so devastating.

[00:08:51]Adam looks at them and says this. He said the previous administration he was comparing this to deported a massive number of people, but he did that without cracking the ribs of 79-year-olds, without shooting US citizens, without deporting people with zero due process, and then bringing them back to the effing country. Let that sentence breathe for a second.

[00:09:09]Because what Adam just did is he removed the only excuse the panel had left. They cannot say enforcement requires brutality because history already proved it doesn't. You can enforce immigration law without breaking the ribs of elderly American citizens. The brutality is not a requirement. It is a choice. And then Adam pulls out the move I did not see coming. He asks about the Fifth Amendment. He says, "Does the Fifth Amendment specifically say persons?" And that was upheld in a Supreme Court case that it's persons, not citizens. This is the part that blows my mind because the panel had spent the entire segment acting like due process is some kind of premium subscription only American citizens get to unlock. And Adam just casually reminds them no, the actual founding document of this country uses the word persons, not citizens. Persons.

[00:09:51]And the Supreme Court has confirmed this for generations. Watch how Michael responds. He completely dodges the constitutional question and pivots to Eisenhower. He says this, in the enforcement of American immigration law, we sometimes do things a little more efficiently. And we deported a million people in the 1950s under President Eisenhower. Notice he did not address the Fifth Amendment at all. He just went, hey look, a shiny historical example. And let me give you some real context on that Eisenhower comparison, cuz this is the part nobody on that panel wanted to bring up. That 1950s operation Michael is romanticizing was widely criticized for sweeping up actual American citizens, separating families, and operating with almost zero oversight. People died in the process.

[00:10:31]So, when somebody invokes that program as a model, what they are really saying is they are okay with the collateral damage. They just want you to look the other way while it happens.

[00:10:40]No, no, this woman provided all of the receipts. This liberal woman applied for ICE, and her whole internet history she was [ __ ] on ICE. She smokes a bunch of weed and posts about it. And she she didn't >> [laughter] >> She didn't even submit the domestic battery her history on it. Like she didn't submit anything. And ICE still let her in. So, the problem is under trained ICE agents are giving the are giving them the funding of national militaries. Like they're funded more than national militaries. They're masking up in such a way that emboldens them, and then they're going around and terrorizing communities. Michael, you asked me a yes or no question. Can I ask you one? Did the ICE agent who shot Renee Nicole Good get knocked on the ground on his ass? Oh my gosh, dude. He got He got knocked over. Wait, wait, no, no, you got it Hey, hey, yes or no? Is your question was he flat on the ground?

[00:11:22]Everybody said he was not Was he flat on the ground? Are you saying that HEAD AND TOES FLAT ON THE GROUND ON THE GROUND?

[00:11:27]WAS he knocked on his ass?

[00:11:29]Okay, He he knocked on his ass? He was knocked over. He was not He was not flat [laughter] on the ground. He was not flat on the ground. Have the honor of showing you No, no, no, don't you dare.

[00:11:37]I'm granting I'm granting your point.

[00:11:39]I'm granting your point. He was I'm granting your point that he was not flat on the ground. He was He was knocked over. You guys are being really dishonest about that. It's not It's not dishonest.

[00:11:47]You guys are being very dishonest.

[00:11:50]He he knocks his ice the ice agent flat on his sultry ass.

[00:11:53]>> Wait, do you do you actually think that?

[00:11:55]Wait, do you actually think that?

[00:11:57]No, I think you want to read AI-generated ice >> Wait, wait, no, do you actually think [laughter] what you just said? Do you think he got knocked on his ass? All right. All right. Wait, no, no, stop. Do you think he got knocked on his ass?

[00:12:06]I'm so sorry, but >> think he got knocked on his ass? No, I don't think he got knocked on his ass.

[00:12:10]>> Okay, then why were you guys being so >> Dude, hey, hey, what's your name again?

[00:12:12]What's your name? What's your name?

[00:12:13]>> Adam. Adam, listen. I've almost gotten hit by a deranged [ __ ] in her in her car, okay? I had a gun in my pocket, which I was not able to bring up here because of safety and everything, but and I had to contemplate, am I going to shoot this black chick or not?

[00:12:29]As a 6-ft 4 white guy, when a when a woman who was uh let out on the street by Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan for to to take some lithium instead of going to a state-run mental institution, decided to drive up to Nashville at 8:00 a.m. on a in the in the morning and try to run me over. So, I know about cars menacing me.

[00:12:50]And I'm not afraid of federal agents.

[00:12:52]>> your personal experience. You guys all Okay, okay, this is the moment. This is the moment the entire debate cracked wide open, and I genuinely need you to watch it back two or three times, cuz what happens here is one of the cleanest exposures I have seen in a long time.

[00:13:05]Adam turns to the panel and asks them very calmly, very directly, did the ice agent who shot Renee Nicole Good get knocked on the ground on his ass? Simple yes or no. And the conservative panelist with full chest, full confidence, doubles down and says this. He said he knocks the ice agent flat on his sultry ass. Flat on his ass, that was the claim. That was the entire foundation of the self-defense argument the panel had been building for the last 10 minutes.

[00:13:28]So, Adam presses him. He goes, "Do you actually think what you just said?

[00:13:32]Do you think he got knocked on his ass?"

[00:13:33]And here is where the whole house of cards collapses. The same guy who 2 seconds ago was insisting the agent was knocked flat suddenly goes, "No, I don't think he got knocked on his ass." I am sorry, but what just happened? You cannot say a man was knocked flat then in the same breath admit he was not.

[00:13:48]That is not a debate point. That is a confession. And here is what people don't realize. This is not just one guy fumbling a talking point. This is the entire national narrative being held together by one claim and the second somebody applies pressure to it, the claim evaporates. Because if the agent was not knocked to the ground, the entire self-defense argument has to be re-examined. The story you have been told on cable news has to be re-examined. And that is exactly why nobody on that panel wanted Adam asking the question in the first place. And then, almost like the universe wanted to underline the point, the panelist pivots into this bizarre personal story about almost being run over by what he calls a deranged chicken in her car. Which side note is a really telling phrase to just casually drop on a debate stage. But the bigger issue is this. The moment your factual argument falls apart, you reach for an emotional anecdote. That is the pattern. That is the tell. When the facts stop cooperating, suddenly we are talking about a personal incident from years ago that has nothing to do with the case at hand. Adam shuts it down perfectly. He goes, "I don't care about your personal experience." And he is right not to because the discussion was never about him. It was about a 37-year-old mother who is dead. An investigation the administration shut down before it could even begin. And a country that is being asked to accept a version of events that does not survive 30 seconds of questioning. When a single yes or no question can collapse the entire defense, the defense was never real to begin with. It was vibes. It was a press release. It was a narrative built to be believed, not examined. That is exactly why moments like this matter.

[00:15:15]So, what do you guys think of this?

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