SHEILA GASHUMBA ON FRANK GASHUMBA AND MUGOLE 🥰

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[00:07:50]WELL, come to yet another edition of Kasoko live. I think it's now exactly one year. Not so.

[00:07:56]>> Yeah, I I guess so.

[00:07:57]>> It's a year.

[00:08:00]>> But you know, in a year you've not done any other interview.

[00:08:03]>> Yeah, it's better that way.

[00:08:05]>> You just do it for me.

[00:08:06]>> I just do it for you.

[00:08:08]>> What are friends for?

[00:08:09]>> What are friends for? Actually, I wanted to thank you for always checking on me.

[00:08:13]You know, I like those.

[00:08:20]>> Fantastic.

[00:08:24]around >> but you know sometimes you need people who check on you and be like oh are you okay?

[00:08:29]>> Yeah.

[00:08:29]>> Yes. And friends these days in this economy and this Uganda's crazy night life people call you like where are we going?

[00:08:36]>> What's the plot today when people call you like randomly >> it means like you know >> Yeah. But but you know those years ago you were one of those people who just randomly check on me >> like are you good?

[00:08:49]>> Can we have pizza? You know. So now now that things are you know >> and okay but the thing is now you um me I understand where you are.

[00:09:03]>> Yeah >> because now I'm where you were >> like everybody everything around so now I tend to appreciate it more >> but then when you when when you now move into because now the real money is there.

[00:09:18]>> Yeah. But then we don't know how you hold yourself together.

[00:09:22]>> Yeah.

[00:09:22]>> And uh I've been telling people about mental health all the time.

[00:09:26]>> Like check on your people.

[00:09:27]>> True.

[00:09:28]>> Um I I usually check on especially those people I think are really my friends or they doing something for me >> because now like me >> um when I lost my everybody came I saw so many people.

[00:09:45]>> Then a week later I was left alone.

[00:09:48]>> Yeah. So not to say that those people >> but now that people are battling different >> and sometimes all we need is someone to ask us are you okay you know and you feel like I just need there are those days when you just need someone to ask you are you okay and Then you tell them, "I'm not feeling well." And they're like, "You'll be fine."

[00:10:21]>> I like his content with his daughter.

[00:10:23]Like >> he always does like nice content around his daughter.

[00:10:26]>> But now the daughter's grown.

[00:10:28]>> She's so beautiful. Actually, that's how I got to know about his existence. Like I used to see like them the videos coming up on my FYP >> and I'm like, "Oh, such a pretty daughter." Then I think I was somewhere and they were talking about him. I was like, "Oh, really?"

[00:10:40]>> Yeah.

[00:10:41]>> You've not met him?

[00:10:42]>> No.

[00:10:42]>> Oh, you should.

[00:10:43]>> I should.

[00:10:44]>> He's a he's a very generous guy. And when you're friends, >> you will enjoy being his friend.

[00:10:51]>> He's one of those realest people you'll meet.

[00:10:53]>> Yeah, I see him helping like a couple like after I saw that like I was seeing people always mentioning his name. So, shout out to him. I like like a father daughter content. Like I even like uh I feel like sometimes I don't understand Chicken Chicken, but his do his daughter content is >> he's cute.

[00:11:17]My sister by the way, I think he was with Karem Hig's like wife who is my friend CeCe and Obama.

[00:11:29]>> Okay.

[00:11:31]>> Anyway, that's a story I'll talk of another day. That Karim story, it rocked us >> like so much.

[00:11:38]>> But I feel I feel like there's so much that happens. The the wife is my very good friend. She's called >> Very humble lady. Very very humble, God-fearing.

[00:11:48]>> She's I've never seen someone so humble like that.

[00:11:51]>> About other things like I mean if you've never seen anything happen with your eyes, you can't really >> Yeah. You just feel like >> K first say hi to those people watching and listening.

[00:12:02]>> Hi guys, it's Sheila Gashumba >> and yeah, thanks for watching the other interview. Yeah, >> it was like everywhere like we were just chilling like how we were chilling today like >> you know we are friends as well. So I think the conversation >> and people were not happy >> I know him very well.

[00:12:19]>> He was like I went to school with his son but was younger than me.

[00:12:29]>> So I know him I think more like family friends >> but sometimes it's like always offside of me.

[00:12:39]What's the problem? What's the problem?

[00:12:43]>> You know my point of the food of Mikos after you eat the food and you want to use the toilet. Have you seen there are no good public toilets out there? Am I lying?

[00:12:52]>> No, you're not lying.

[00:12:53]>> Even going just to p you know those you have >> you have to pull things up.

[00:12:58]>> No, you'd rather keep yourself collected. Even going to the bathroom in the toilet in the in the bar.

[00:13:03]>> Yeah. they need they're different people and you know with women >> you know we're very very delicate so infections and stuff >> so >> but I also think um I've met a couple of people >> I've met people who say before >> so they first eat because the reason they raise they like what are we going to eat that we've never eaten >> that you have never eaten That is one.

[00:13:35]Then two, the discomfort >> that comes with there are some people after they eat maybe some eat too much now they want to sleep now the clothes are too tight on them you know that stuff. So, but it raised it raised a lot of discussion. Of course, people came up to say it became a sound by the way.

[00:13:55]>> It did become a sound. But I've not I've been like I think when my granddad died like that's the only Lomb I've been to.

[00:14:02]>> So, I can I really can relate. That's what I >> You've not been to Lomb. only once like >> no but you know you know I always tell people like people different different backgrounds different upbringing >> so when someone shares their opinion it's from their perspective >> I haven't eaten like lube food before >> but maybe one time I'll try and see what's at your granddad's lumb you didn't eat >> no >> like you just went that day >> no I went the night before like I was there the whole time but like you know and I'm not really a big like person who likes to eat eat food like that. Yeah.

[00:14:40]You just eat little little stuff here and there. Snacks.

[00:14:44]>> Yeah.

[00:14:45]>> So like your room had snacks or you went with snacks?

[00:14:47]>> No, I went with snacks like you could order like provadis.

[00:14:52]>> Yes. So things like that.

[00:14:53]>> Okay. I see. K. So once again we go again. Now in this in the one year we've been together.

[00:15:01]>> You need to ask me everything.

[00:15:03]>> And I'm asking you everything. I'm going to begin with your dad.

[00:15:05]>> Okay.

[00:15:06]>> Your dad Your dad got a >> Yes.

[00:15:11]>> But did you know about the the >> Listen, I was right here at Four Points.

[00:15:14]I remember RIP Rajie had I think passed away the day before.

[00:15:20]>> But my dad called me the day after.

[00:15:23]>> But my dad for like 3 weeks had been telling me Sheila, >> I need to see you in my office. I want to talk to you about something.

[00:15:30]>> But sometimes, you know, I wake up late.

[00:15:32]like I wake up 4 5 he's probably gone to gym >> and I kept missing that. So when I called him the next day, I was telling him, "Daddy, what really happened?" Then he's like, "By the way, I said cuz it was around April. We're in April, right?"

[00:15:49]>> Yeah.

[00:15:50]>> So I had to check my phone calendar to see if it's April fools. Honestly, it was like first April.

[00:15:56]If it's first April, he's like, "No, Shil, I'm serious."

[00:15:59]>> You know, I first laughed. Like I laughed for like literally like six minutes.

[00:16:03]>> I'm like, "How? When? Where?" This was like the biggest shocker of my entire life.

[00:16:10]>> So you never met the >> You never met her? Never heard about >> And your dad had never told you anything about her?

[00:16:15]>> No, actually I now vividly remember like the week before.

[00:16:18]>> Oh, are we supposed to mix Lugan in English? Yeah, cuz I Yeah, I have to mix and see, but I'll try.

[00:16:24]>> So like I had done a No, there was a wedding of my uh the wedding my my dad's cousin had a wedding. So I went to the wedding but on the table >> and the lady was actually on the on the table >> because I said hi hi casually like how you say hi. Then one of my cousin told me by the way because when I was growing up my dad always showed me who he was dating like they would always come home like you know so I didn't even take it as a big deal. M >> so now when he tells me he's like the is already set and stuff. Okay. How how long have you known this person? He told me he's known the person for a couple of years. They compatible.

[00:17:14]>> Oh yes.

[00:17:15]>> Not like three.

[00:17:17]>> Yes.

[00:17:17]>> Yes.

[00:17:18]>> Wow. That's okay.

[00:17:18]>> Yeah. Yeah. But like they were friends.

[00:17:21]Um like he feels like >> they're compatible. She's a nice woman and all that. So I said okay. at him.

[00:17:28]How do we start? How can I help? How can I cuz I feel like, you know, we have to support people what they like. My dad has I I can't believe that he got married and stuff. So, I was like, maybe >> this is what he needs, >> you know, cuz I haven't remember I used to stay at my dad's house and I left for he's been in the house alone and maybe he needs that kind of companionship.

[00:17:47]And for ever I used to wonder my dad is so chill. Before I would travel and I'm posting a picture, he'll send it back to me on my WhatsApp. What is this? You get >> someone keeping him busy.

[00:18:01]>> Keeping him busy. He's at peace. Like he's not, you know.

[00:18:06]Can I meet the lady? You know, I changed everything of the lady.

[00:18:10]>> Oh, >> she's so chill.

[00:18:15]Yes. Instantly. Yes. I told I told my dad give me her number.

[00:18:21]We decided to meet. She actually came here, you know. We met >> and uh what are you going to wear? She's like, we got some things from me. Let me get you someone better.

[00:18:39]She's the most simple lady, you know?

[00:18:41]And I liked that. I'm like, okay, she's not here for the fame and status.

[00:18:46]money.

[00:18:47]>> She didn't look like she was trying to like >> No, she didn't even look like she wanted to wear the most expensive things or to use the big you know this era really compatible am.

[00:19:13]And then surprisingly like you know trying already pregnant of the baby. Oh the baby is a it's a boy but your dad doesn't know yet.

[00:19:39]like he doesn't believe in them.

[00:19:45]He doesn't know and I also kept that as a secret until years. So is far >> it is >> you know that's that was my second in my whole life >> that you've gone to >> that I've gone to >> the first one was which one was such a good guy they won me in the US we always meet I saw him last year in New Orleans so How are we moving and all that?

[00:20:28]I'm going to call them all those Gwagons, the Range Rovers. And I was so happy for him, you know, life is short.

[00:20:36]>> Yeah.

[00:20:36]>> Yes.

[00:20:40]She was pregnant.

[00:20:42]She was and she was overwhelmed. She cried.

[00:20:45]>> Yes. It's like it was so organized. It was so simple.

[00:20:52]I think she got overwhelmed.

[00:20:54]So it was such a big >> So how does it feel now that you have a baby brother?

[00:20:59]>> Did you have a baby brother before?

[00:21:00]>> People don't understand like my my mom has two boys. My mom >> has two kids.

[00:21:07]>> Two boys. So I already have brothers.

[00:21:09]>> Oh.

[00:21:09]>> On my my on my mom's side, >> you know. You know, like we literally don't even know your mom's side. Yes, because my mom >> Nobody thinks of it.

[00:21:17]>> Exactly. Because my mom is simple and she's so private.

[00:21:21]>> She's the calmst lady you'll ever meet.

[00:21:24]>> Even nowadays in Muga, I'm taking you to governor. Let's go.

[00:21:28]>> Let's where we do makeup and everyone is they never believe that's my mom.

[00:21:32]They're like, "No, that's not your mom.

[00:21:33]That's your sister."

[00:21:34]>> You know? I know.

[00:21:35]>> Yeah. So, I already had that side. M >> but now for my dad to be honest I always thought like I would be the only child for for my dad >> you know cuz he never showed that sign so it was cute I was actually flying from Canada to Uganda I had landed message by the way we have received a baby boy I told my dad I already knew you having a boy he's like Hey, you're traditional man. Traditional man is traditional that way.

[00:22:12]>> The other day I was at home and and I was asking about the birthday for the the son >> and then um the lady was like I was telling her I saw daddy saying that there's no birthday we'll see how to I feel like he's he used to be too traditional. My dad is the most I don't know.

[00:22:42]my dad.

[00:22:45]I mean, I I I wish he was got married to my dad like years ago. Life would have been so nice.

[00:22:54]>> He's now chill.

[00:22:54]>> He's too chill.

[00:22:56]My dad starts but it's good. Like now he's a bit chill.

[00:23:09]They're going somewhere on the weekend.

[00:23:11]It's we was it this Easter weekend that like she's filming your dad and your dad is looking in the camera. I'm like >> love is really good.

[00:23:24]>> It's good. It makes men softer like the kind of man my dad used to be. And shout out to her. I like I don't know >> how. Okay. I didn't get to know really how they met. I think through the whole circle >> and all that but shout out to you. I like this version of my father. Last time I was coming from chop life in the morning. I'm on TikTok. He's live. I'm like let me go and watch the live music for like 15 minutes. My dad was dancing. He's >> dancing on radio 4 in the morning.

[00:23:52]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:23:53]I saw that video.

[00:23:54]>> Yes. So yeah, I like it.

[00:23:56]>> Even like at home like those days used to be he never used to do like dance around or what >> dance how where?

[00:24:02]>> SO IT WAS TOUGH.

[00:24:03]>> MY DAD MY DAD you know my dad's car engine you can hear it from I don't know if people haven't been to my dad's house. So it's up on the hill down there's like a small signpost. You hear his engine everyone starts running the plate is Yeah. Like >> papa scatter.

[00:24:22]For us, we thought like with you he was like and that's the chill and that's that's what people what do you know even the last time me and when I left Pet's house we had like a big scandal like I went out and he didn't know I had gone out he almost beat me to death >> that scandal was there think you don't remember it >> yeah I remember it but I felt like it was just >> things like he gets that angry >> what kasuku my dad with a with a child like me you do anything wrong. Sticks come out, belts come out. No joke.

[00:24:55]>> But now your brother is going to enjoy.

[00:24:57]>> You think so? There are sometimes I'm there telling my mom, now my mom, I'm like, "Huh, >> I hope my dad is not so strict on this boy.

[00:25:07]>> But um I remember I think uh during those days of the functions, >> they they asked you about Malika.

[00:25:15]>> Does she now become your mom? And you were like, "No, >> no, it can't happen." But but was that a bold answer from you?

[00:25:22]>> No. But why?

[00:25:23]>> Because like traditionally she becomes like your mom.

[00:25:26]>> So maybe Okay. You would have left it off. People are saying what people say. But it's it's not like that. Like my dad has my mom has also two kids. Am I going to call stepdad?

[00:25:45]>> You don't call him dad?

[00:25:47]>> No.

[00:25:49]Yes.

[00:25:50]>> You you so so when you meet him you're like how are you?

[00:25:54]>> Yes. And he's so cool like you know like did you see his interview where he said by five they start drinking. He starts drinking.

[00:26:00]>> Yeah. He's very chill guy. Like very chill man.

[00:26:04]>> So >> wow.

[00:26:07]>> So you stand by it?

[00:26:08]>> No I stand by it. Why would I call her mom? Like she she's still first of all Malika is even younger than me.

[00:26:14]>> You're kidding me.

[00:26:16]>> Yes. Malika is younger than me.

[00:26:20]That's number one. So how do I call someone younger than you? Yeah. But I still give her that respect. I can call her Malika.

[00:26:26]>> You just call her Malika.

[00:26:27]>> Yes.

[00:26:28]>> Okay.

[00:26:28]>> Yeah. So it's it will be I feel like let's always leave >> the >> formalities.

[00:26:34]>> Formalities and the respect.

[00:26:38]>> Respect has to be earned. My mom literally carried me for 9 months, >> gave birth to me.

[00:26:44]>> Mhm.

[00:26:45]>> And then I must go call another person.

[00:26:47]Mom but I hear in Buganda even your auntie your mom sister what is also mom >> so for you mom >> no that's my auntie >> so you go like auntie >> hi auntie even my dad's sisters >> you don't call them singer >> I only got to know the other day because like the person I'm seeing is Muganda and he like one time like the mom's sister called and he's like mom I'm like >> he's like no mama. So yeah, it's different cultures, different Yeah. And you do you do that?

[00:27:26]>> Okay.

[00:27:27]>> You love your mom. Would you call someone else a mom the way you hear you talk about >> I I call I call them like now like mama Christian >> mama nach. But I cannot just throw around the word mommy.

[00:27:39]>> Yeah.

[00:27:39]>> Because that is very respect those words. It is one of the iss she was also there during your time.

[00:27:56]>> Yes, she was.

[00:28:06]I told people they told me >> I saw your interview.

[00:28:10]Why would you call someone like that mom?

[00:28:12]>> I had a one time we in a meeting >> she was there that she that lady was there you know >> was now the MD.

[00:28:23]>> Yeah I know.

[00:28:24]>> So goes like mommy I think is like is this guy being for real the first time?

[00:28:31]The second time then was like stop that nonsense just think of I'm tired of it.

[00:28:40]The woman must have felt bad cuz she likes that word mommy sometimes.

[00:28:48]>> I told them, "Man, my mom didn't pay school fees for me to just move one day and call someone else money."

[00:28:54]>> So, you get where I'm coming from. By the way, me I respect my mom so much >> because of my reasons. That's why the other time I was I always defend Bruno.

[00:29:05]Bruno, by the way, me and Bruno are not friends. People should know >> we are not friends. Like we're not like we're not enemies. We are not friends.

[00:29:12]Like I know of him. Like I know of him.

[00:29:15]>> But when I see his scandals, they actually break my heart like so much because >> women we are we we are always like last time I said we always >> embarrassing ourselves out there. We devalue ourselves.

[00:29:28]Let me tell you why I respect my mom. My mom gave birth to me when she was still in school, secondary.

[00:29:35]>> So my mom used to be in a school. used to be like one of the best at instruments >> and my dad had a child. My mom got pregnant for me so I was not like one night stand my dad and mom know they actually love themselves. When I meet people who know my dad and my mom too much.

[00:30:04]Do you know my dad? One time I was in in the US airport long time ago. You know my dad had done in the US. I don't know if you know it.

[00:30:18]I know >> those days talk to my mom even my mom went back to secondary. My daddy when they're not even together when I was in P2 P3 she's my sister.

[00:31:11]What's this? The university that people go to for a bit like people who are not so young.

[00:31:17]>> That university is called what?

[00:31:21]>> Which is that?

[00:31:22]>> Uh I don't know if it's in not I need to call my mom. There's a university she went graduation.

[00:31:32]>> What? Um not UCU is it? I don't know. But my dad always talks about my mom. It's me and her two brothers. I remember that day Juliana had a concert at Serena.

[00:31:59]She likes Juliana so much. Went Serena.

[00:32:00]We had dinner. Then we went to Juliana's concert and that is it. No fighting.

[00:32:04]Mommy, which university did you go to again?

[00:32:08]Which university did you go to again?

[00:32:13]Yes.

[00:32:22]My dad always says thank God there was no Tik Tok and media in my era of my dad and mom imagine my mom saying those things. So for you for you for you when you see this whole drama going around >> it's bizarre like it's crazy these other kids kids are now everyone has a phone you don't have a bicycle what at home >> at home but because of your own mouth your own mouth and these scenarios are happening. Me I have friends who are male women are using kids as some kind of clickbait thing whereby >> because of and why were people giving birth to to for for men who don't want your kids?

[00:33:24]I think the I think the men want the things but >> of a one night stand. Are you Kasuku?

[00:33:29]How can I have a one night stand tomorrow? Let's say in in Europe and then I just have a kid >> and then >> with a guy you don't know >> with a guy I just met over one night.

[00:33:38]We've never gone on a date. I've known you two weeks.

[00:33:42]>> Now that is >> Don't you think that women are sometimes their own enemies? There's so many. Why are you not taking your pill? Why you not I don't know if abortion is is like whatever idea. I know some people are going to say that, oh, but you bringing a kid and the kid is suffering is better than a dead kid. Like, do you understand where I'm coming from?

[00:34:00]>> And let's respect ourselves as women.

[00:34:12]video of a bicycle. Okay. How much is a bicycle?

[00:34:24]If someone has decided to love you and marry you, they must take care of all your burden. Actually, that same guy has to make you even forget that you have a baby daddy.

[00:34:33]I have like I have people that I know who are older than me and they change their life completely. Even the man you you won't even know that they have different kids.

[00:34:49]She wrote a letter.

[00:34:50]>> She wrote a letter.

[00:34:56]>> She broke the news.

[00:34:57]>> She actually, you know, and >> she broke the news herself.

[00:35:00]>> Herself. You understand? And the thing is that like for cuz I I see how she carries herself and she's very beautiful.

[00:35:08]And even shout out pretty.

[00:35:12]>> Do you still talk to her?

[00:35:13]>> Yeah, actually last time I talked to her even have on Snap. We supposed to do a video with her on Gashlax. Like she has a very nice body.

[00:35:21]>> Yeah. And I like that she listened to my advice. Yes.

[00:35:25]>> She works at Baba TV. I've met her by the way.

[00:35:29]>> Yeah. Yeah. I've actually scheduled interviews with her like a million times, >> but >> I don't show up.

[00:35:36]>> It's me who doesn't show up.

[00:35:38]Um, she's very she's one she's very kind.

[00:35:41]>> She's very understanding. That's if she gets to know you. I don't know maybe for me somehow she just appreciated me.

[00:35:47]>> So I've not had hard time dealing with her.

[00:35:49]>> But um I spoke to her manager at the time >> those days when things were >> Yeah, she had they took her back to school. I think adult education stuff like that. You get it? So, she she has a very very bright future.

[00:36:11]>> I would think you withdraw her from all this social media craziness >> because she doesn't want to be when she's 25 years >> and she's done and she's regretting. 25 is too early.

[00:36:23]>> Yes.

[00:36:23]>> To have a life like you're regretting about so many things.

[00:36:26]>> So, I think she had actually even bought a car. M she was getting there.

[00:36:41]I don't know who talked to her.

[00:36:42]>> Me I used to talk to her. She knows it very well.

[00:36:44]>> Then she came >> one time she came to my shop. One time I told you last time you know what your platform now gets of Tik Tok influencing business.

[00:37:03]business and all that. So, shout out to her. I like to see girls like that.

[00:37:07]>> She reformed.

[00:37:08]>> Yes.

[00:37:08]>> She's actually doing so well.

[00:37:10]>> She's so focused on whatever she's doing.

[00:37:17]And I'm like, okay. Yeah, she's there.

[00:37:20]>> You're the one who has all the money.

[00:37:22]>> You're our president. Social media.

[00:37:28]>> Are you part of the 5 billion?

[00:37:30]>> I don't I don't know the criteria. Like how did we get there?

[00:37:33]>> Where >> how did we get to the money?

[00:37:49]game. Mhm.

[00:37:53]Billion.

[00:37:57]So, you did see that video?

[00:37:58]>> I did, but I don't understand people already fighting.

[00:38:08]I think you tend to understand them. they feel um they're doing so much for the NRM >> and then someone who is barely >> doing anything for the NRM.

[00:38:20]>> Life is not fair. It's about the influence people have. You could do the most but you're influencing only the people in your home, your child, your wife >> and and your border guy too many driver.

[00:38:31]But influence is something that is different. and also the agenda because you see what most people never understand >> the the you the the the popular vote >> is very important.

[00:38:43]>> Yes. You >> did you vote Kasuku?

[00:38:45]>> Yeah I did.

[00:38:46]>> I also did vote.

[00:38:47]>> I voted but where the popular vote comes from for example Sheila now you see this life we are dealing with there are so many people who don't want to know about politics >> but >> they love what you do.

[00:38:58]>> Yeah. So that is the popular vote because well you you're going to do the things they want you know the clothes you put on you know all that stuff and then there's their target workersh >> they get you to fight a particular battle >> you know now someone will not want a target worker >> yes >> over a popular vote person >> you understand >> so it seizes just being around >> us fighting the group.

[00:39:29]>> Yeah.

[00:39:29]>> Now we want people who are going to talk to because after after politics that whole politics was done now they need to unite the country.

[00:39:37]>> They need someone who is going to appeal to everyone.

[00:39:40]>> Now my friends didn't understand that message.

[00:39:44]>> That is why um maybe they were but eventually maybe they got to understand and I most of them I talked back to them. I think I should try.

[00:39:53]>> Yeah. And we are now at the same page.

[00:40:00]I said at a time when he does not need them, they are the most less privileges.

[00:40:23]>> Yeah, true.

[00:40:24]>> Because your numbers are divided.

[00:40:27]>> Mhm.

[00:40:39]So the president is going to want to deal with someone who is going to talk to everyone rather than you who is now but when the time to fight comes he's definitely going to want you. Now those are two different things that most of our people don't differentiate >> and they don't understand that >> even as human beings if today you want something from me you're going to do everything possible to make sure I do it for you.

[00:41:04]>> You get it?

[00:41:05]>> Once this is done >> you'll have other priorities. So most definitely it will be me chasing after you.

[00:41:11]>> Now the moment people understand that that's how society works.

[00:41:14]>> You tap tap first.

[00:41:16]>> So when you see it's this one's turn.

[00:41:18]>> Yes. Now the challenge most of them didn't understand that today the money you may fight over it and the president says okay because people thought the president was giving me You have to be a member.

[00:41:56]>> Subscribe.

[00:41:58]>> What you subscribe and the number of shares you have. Oh, >> if you subscribe 10 million, >> that means we in position to lend you a value equivalent to that more.

[00:42:09]>> I think you should have meetings with these people. Whoever wants to do the the problem at the time is people you know people's emotions are high they will never understand >> the thing is that people most people listen but don't few listen to understand that's yeah and and one thing I learned I got to understand with Ugandans because the emotions were high she was in love >> so you could definitely but she must have gone back and and thought Okay, I think she was right. So the same thing happens today. Most of most of these ladies you talk about >> um maybe they they are clouded with anger >> or emotions >> forever.

[00:42:57]>> Yeah. But >> I feel like many women feel like they have a stake in someone's a man's life.

[00:43:03]>> You have your own life. Before there was a man, before there's a child, you as you, you are your own person. And I feel like people need to when I over we should get medicine like you know how you go to the hospital and get like goofen for cramps. We need to get medicine for people to get over men because do you know how crazy someone looks?

[00:43:25]Do you want to make things hard? That's what I don't understand about baby moms. You're making it hard for someone to even They're going to say, "You not understand."

[00:43:45]>> No, but I I I can speak about this because I was raised by a dad.

[00:43:50]>> Like my dad was a single father. Do you understand? And that makes my mom >> also a single like not really a single parent, but she's I've grown around that that um whole thing of really wanted the best which is by the way is a smart girl >> I remember doing that kind of her and the wedding thing of the I reached out to her and I'm like are you okay you know >> and she's like no Sheila at least they would have told me and all that >> so I just out of the blue. Okay, maybe you should get your kids, you know.

[00:44:37]I gave up on what?

[00:44:38]>> On the kids.

[00:44:38]>> On the kids. I love my kids so much, but now I want to build my what myself.

[00:44:47]And I love that. Now you see Prima is now, you know, lives. She's endorsing some small endorsements that she's doing. I see she's trying to be an MC.

[00:44:55]You need to build yourself as a as a as a woman. Now let's pretend like let's try and and build ourselves. Where are we building our success or our happiness on a man?

[00:45:18]>> That is why my dad always says, "Yeah, I I think what you're saying is right. We we've I've I've spoken to girls and ladies >> so much about that whole thing.

[00:45:33]>> Um it's painful. Mhm.

[00:45:35]>> It's only that some some ladies they feel like if they let this go.

[00:45:50]So the thing is already not even that it's a one night stand.

[00:46:02]One night stand. So women let's go even if you're staying with a man let me give general advice no even if you're staying with a man and a man is also providing you as a woman please go out there and work >> have your side hustles hassles have your money whatever a man can't provide a man cannot provide everything that is like the other time I was telling you how I was going to Ghana for You understand? Even if he can do all that but there's a way whereby and my mom always says when I when my mom is always telling me and she told me she's like in between that process and all There's always that, you know, cuz you're the one who pushed the kid out. So, Vanessa, please, like, you need to stop that. I And you know, her friends, >> I don't know.

[00:47:30]>> It's so sad.

[00:47:33]>> Anyway, about that story. It has so many filters.

[00:47:39]>> Yeah. Uh >> they should got caught anyway.

[00:47:42]>> No, but but but but uh >> never Bruno must be having a very strong mind. Is he okay like mentally because all this drama that comes at the other lady of someone's state of mind? Like I I actually want to know where his state of mind is because I feel sorry for him.

[00:48:02]Like we're not friends.

[00:48:03]>> I don't even think I'll ever met Bruno anywhere. But these people but I hope it teaches rubber up Bruno not every time live row.

[00:48:20]>> Yes. I swear. Yeah.

[00:48:24]I swear because where were the condoms at that time? see the problems of not just going and buying that >> but there are people you meet and you're like now the rest we shall see afterh >> yeah but but um um girls need to need to understand like you have said I know most of you most people most ladies are broken >> that sometimes when we say these things they feel like uh we are trying to let men off But I've been honest with them like me.

[00:49:00]I've seen some of my sisters, some of my relatives, >> even my mother >> doing this solo.

[00:49:08]>> There's a point where you feel, >> is it worth it chasing myself with this guy and you just wake up and you say, "Why do you think I've never had a child?"

[00:49:20]That's where we are coming.

[00:49:27]I'm I'm not going to what? I'm not going to have a child with someone who doesn't want like I need a man to show me >> like you know what I'm not even just to show me because men can lie.

[00:49:41]>> Kasuku, you men can lie. You can sell a dream to someone. Am I lying?

[00:49:47]>> I don't know. These things happen to you also.

[00:49:48]>> No, they can't. I would have had so many kids with the people I've dated before.

[00:49:52]No, they were capable of I having a child and they give me this kind of money but it's not that >> you know I need my I I need my child to go around like so much love >> also what are the investments in plan what is the person doing not for today not tomorrow not me taking pictures of a baby shower >> and and gender reveal if I wake up tomorrow I can throw a party but most women these days What is you can never prove to an ex or a baby mom or a wife. It's the man's it's the man's duty >> to prove to prove to people like you know what this is my what most of these girls maybe anyway the dynamics that's what most people do women are about proving don't have that self How do they call it?

[00:51:31]Why would you why would you choose that kind of life when you can go out there and hustle?

[00:51:36]and that's why I respect that primina school one time you know so Vanessa please your beautiful lady and this is like my message to you beautiful lady Bruno alone if Bruno wants to be part of the life he will focus on yourself >> and for your mental health as well and for your child these things you keep posting on the internet your kid is going to be reminded of these things at school. Schools have bullies.

[00:52:12]>> I remember one time I was in Cabo and there was like those small small scandals people like to put up and my dad was in jail for something which was not even the issue. People don't understand the story. He actually sued the court by did you know that? And he won the case. He did win the case. So one time I was at school and I was having an issue with the Sudan. My dad talks about the story. We actually got into a physical fight and the kid told me, "Oh, is it because your dad was stealing money?"

[00:52:37]>> Do you understand? Because it was on national TV.

[00:52:40]>> Yeah.

[00:52:40]>> But it was even a lie. That's the whole case was a whole big lie and all that.

[00:52:45]>> So when you say the things of bicycle, so please guys, if you decide to have kids, like work it out.

[00:52:55]>> Social media. Yes. And we are always here for the drama by the way.

[00:53:03]So, and the internet is not a place for you guys to air out your love issues.

[00:53:07]May I always tell you when I'm dating someone? When I used to date someone, I used to post about it.

[00:53:12]>> Yeah. But now you don't.

[00:53:14]>> I don't. But then again, have I ever come and said, "Oh, I broke up with God's plan because of this. I broke up with Rick because of this." No.

[00:53:21]>> You keep it moving. Chapter closed.

[00:53:23]>> By the way, the last time we are here, you had broken up with Rick, man.

[00:53:27]>> Yes.

[00:53:28]Is that >> last year? Where were you?

[00:53:30]>> No, the last time we were here.

[00:53:31]>> Yes.

[00:53:32]>> Have they broken up?

[00:53:33]>> We broke up long time ago. Even we broke me and Rick broke up even before the statement were out was out.

[00:53:38]>> We were already not together >> and you just closed off everything >> and I've never met Yeah. Because I didn't want people to find him with someone and they think he's cheating or to find him with someone.

[00:53:49]>> Yeah. It was because it was too public and both of us were also full like in the limelight like that. God's plan was not really in the limelight. He's not he wasn't like a celebrity.

[00:53:58]>> I made him known. But for Rick, he was also had his own name and I had my own name. I didn't want anything to be attached to him anymore.

[00:54:07]>> So, it was more like that.

[00:54:11]It was mutual.

[00:54:15]>> I've seen I've seen Angelina posting over the years like this is done. We want our privacy.

[00:54:22]>> Yes.

[00:54:22]>> So, you know, like now you Yeah, >> I already see his videos there on Tik Tok with the other girl. I don't know what her name is, but uh other girl. So >> the new girl.

[00:54:32]>> Yes.

[00:54:33]>> Oh, >> it's good. Like let people move on. What what you don't find in someone, you may find in someone else, >> you know, or >> Yeah. Luck is different. Like people are different. You change. That's why even people who are sisters and both together, you're not twins.

[00:54:51]>> You know, you came out at the same time.

[00:54:52]>> At the same time. But even disagree.

[00:55:18]because the reality my dad always told me my dad was like friends me if I was make sure my next boyfriend Do you understand that kind of thing?

[00:55:47]Why would you give your ex the power to see you weak?

[00:55:50]>> You guys don't know how to handle men. I think >> me I cannot I can never ever let my me let my ex see me weak. The next person has to be better.

[00:56:12]Let me give you a story. There's one time I was at my shop and one of my exes was also there parking.

[00:56:35]And I'm like, "Yeah, you were like, "Hey, even now like last year, the person I'm dating You have to always women I'm the one telling you aila never let your ex see you miser miserable never or down you have to cook in your head you must make sure you become like top >> the standards should be up there a bottle of champagne So like women do those things one week like this sad when it passes seven days like this >> you get over him >> get over him chapter closed make sure your next is better than your ex >> financially don't be dating ugly people that's one thing I don't date >> you don't ugly.

[00:57:56]>> Everyone has to look good.

[00:58:18]Hey, let me tell you me if I got married to someone who has kids, I would like it's not like I'm going to be the mom.

[00:58:25]But I have to I would be the nicest person >> to them.

[00:58:28]>> Yes.

[00:58:29]>> Oh, really?

[00:58:30]>> What?

[00:58:30]>> Wow.

[00:58:31]>> They would even be more spelt with me like like I mean gifts than their mom.

[00:58:36]Yeah.

[00:58:48]in private banking where I was.

[00:58:50]>> Wow.

[00:58:55]I think she's a bit timid.

[00:59:02]You know, I went to his show. I'm such a fan of his music. you went for for just >> show the one he did sometime when I was still with God's plan >> hotel Africana God's plan used to be a fan of his music so all that so me if I decide to date someone if I decide the kids you the baby mom would have a problem fighting with me as all the problems of your child.

[00:59:36]You know, it looks so bad.

[00:59:38]When you guys do these videos, you're not just doing them as you. You're doing them you you're actually an ambassador of a woman. No matter if you are big, small, celebrity, not celebrity, you're representing so many women. So please when you come out with your problems if you if you if you talk about >> the breakups >> there are so many other women out there >> that you're representing >> there's so many other women facing these problems real time.

[01:00:10]>> So if you come out and you play around some of these issues >> you but there are women who are going to keep suffering >> because of this thing. So sad.

[01:00:24]>> By the way, the other guy who looks so bad. What's the story?

[01:00:31]>> The story of the guy on Tik Tok that dragged the kid and the video that was going out with the other boy.

[01:00:42]>> The challenge was this. The challenge with the guys stories >> like intimidating dur. Yeah. Like they put him under duress to accept those things and it's the things you mind popping it.

[01:01:10]Do you drink alcohol?

[01:01:11]>> No. He's a Muslim.

[01:01:14]Oh, >> okay. Just pass it to me. I'll do it off the camera.

[01:01:18]>> So, the moment people in authorities in positions of power begin doing things on camera, >> that's the end because >> they even handle it low key.

[01:01:32]>> So, the guy know by the way, >> what was there?

[01:01:40]>> I'll tell you off camera.

[01:01:45]telling the video was crazy.

[01:01:46]>> It was but you know now the problem is this complain >> because that's the thing because the the the side effects after this person is going to be build.

[01:01:58]>> Exactly. That was it.

[01:01:59]>> And by the way, he's my friend by the way.

[01:02:09]Yeah. So, but I feel thirsty. Maybe some water.

[01:02:15]>> But you can ask.

[01:02:16]>> Can I ask?

[01:02:17]>> You can.

[01:02:18]>> Yeah. Okay. Ask.

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[01:03:26]>> K. Um, so that was a short break that we were doing.

[01:03:31]>> Yeah.

[01:03:31]>> And yeah, can now we doing the final part. you're now into an hour >> on this discussion >> and yeah yeah yeah yeah but it's a year later >> so yeah >> so now >> always have a talk about >> I want us to talk about social media >> cutting going up >> how do you see social media >> before we move into the other discussions >> I feel like social media has changed so much I mean Tik Tok is I love Tik Tok but there's just so much happening there. I feel like it's making so many irrelevant people relevant.

[01:04:07]>> Like there are some things we have no business knowing. There are some people we have no business knowing.

[01:04:14]>> Do you understand?

[01:04:15]>> Social media.

[01:04:16]>> Yeah. Like that example on Tik Tok. No, that guy the guy whose video leaked and with the young boy, you know, like why are such people even relevant, >> you I was so angry like when Frank and Shalom hosted him. I was like, why would they be hosting someone like this, you know?

[01:04:33]>> And I even I think I even messaged Shalom privately. Usually, even when I have an opinion, I always do message him privately. Like when you did that video about him and his wife when he was saying his wife, I shalom, you're so lucky you're dating your wife, not me. You'd run mad.

[01:04:57]>> Mhm. You don't tell me where you're going. I'll do the next stay out a little night later. I might come back maybe past midnight. Just that small line of communication is important.

[01:05:18]Yeah.

[01:05:21]No, no, no.

[01:05:22]>> But it's his home.

[01:05:24]>> I know it does count. I told him my my view personally. You see, everyone runs their home differently.

[01:05:29]>> Yeah.

[01:05:30]>> But you wouldn't want to be with a woman who is just with you because she's just with you. You know >> that's the difference. The people who are there are people who live in a home and others live in a house.

[01:05:41]>> When you live with someone in a house, anyone does whatever they doing. When it's a home, it's collective effort from two people and mutual respect and communication.

[01:05:52]>> That is why >> that's deep.

[01:05:54]>> Yes. That's why >> the home and the house.

[01:05:56]>> Yes. There's a home and then there's a house. That is why there are situation where people are staying together.

[01:06:02]Everyone is doing their own thing. But no one is even afraid of moving on.

[01:06:07]Would you want to live an happy life?

[01:06:09]You know, >> so yeah, but it was that she's such a pretty girl and she's so slim. I like her the shalom's wife. Yeah. And I'm happy the next day she resorting. I think it was something to do with the friends. Yeah. And us girls, by the way, the thing I've learned, that friend of yours, please listen.

[01:06:28]>> This is something I've learned over time. Sometimes we always make excuses for our friends and all that. But sometimes a man, when a man tells you this friend of yours is not your friend really, >> they have their reasons.

[01:06:46]>> No, no, no, no. It's like a parent. And when a parent tells you Sheila, this friend of yours, oh Chola, you'll only get it later. That's one of the things like one day if I ever the only thing I don't want to say to my dad because he'll feel like feel like he has wings and stuff. Like so many things my dad told me then like now you see now and you're like >> I wish he was right. Right. Even like relationships after they end you make everything starts to make sense after.

[01:07:12]>> Yeah.

[01:07:21]equity for men to be happy.

[01:07:31]>> I realize nowadays it's women always that women want to be more happy. Their happiness is all that matters in a relationship. They're so self-centered.

[01:07:41]>> People think in a relationship like women are the ones to be given. Women like guys, men deserve to be happy. I posted it before the blogs posted it.

[01:07:49]Men deserve to be happy. Let men be happy.

[01:07:55]Let them do if the man is not happy with you, he's going to find the happiness somewhere else. Guarantee.

[01:08:09]Let me tell you, people use money as an excuse all the time. There's no money is nothing as an excuse. There are so many people who are have so much money. They are like MDs, women, but they have failed in their marriages because they don't know that the money has to stop at the out out of the the gate. Like you see when you're going home, me I always tell people I have two they have two different three different personalities.

[01:08:31]There's Sheila, everyone knows Sheila.

[01:08:34]There's Caro, you know, my name is Caro in the middle. Now Caro is the person I am at home. There's no If you come to my place at home when I'm like if my boyfriend has come around, you would not believe it.

[01:08:46]>> You cook?

[01:08:47]>> I do cook.

[01:08:50]>> Yes, I do cook. But I only cook if you deserve it. I'm not going to wake up and just cook for any Tommy D curry. No, >> I make sure that his favorite juice is there.

[01:09:01]>> Yes.

[01:09:03]>> You do the juice.

[01:09:04]>> Yes.

[01:09:06]You know, even during the day, you have to call your boyfriend and be like, "Hey babe, are you okay? Are you making money? How is your day going? Should I send you some juice?" I mean, I stay in town, so sending someone juice if they >> You send You send the guy juice.

[01:09:18]>> Yeah. If it's his favorite juice, why not? If that's what's going to make him happy.

[01:09:24]>> Remember, let me tell you, I was raised by a man.

[01:09:28]>> People forget that. So, I know >> how to to live with a man. My dad, he always says his favorite thing is like news. If you know your boyfriend like your husband likes football, make sure disturbing. So there are small small things. People use money as an excuse.

[01:10:12]It's upbringing.

[01:10:15]>> Upbringing, >> an understanding, >> an understanding.

[01:10:23]But it's like me bringing my whole personality of chop life in my home.

[01:10:29]SO AT YOUR HOME AT WHAT IN YOUR LIFE when do you be sweet she >> had to give us out of that sweet she only switch when a man is like you know giving me everything I want being nice as out of that.

[01:11:02]I'm not going to drink.

[01:11:05]>> Sorry, I didn't know.

[01:11:09]>> Touch cola.

[01:11:11]>> Yeah, but cheers. Just do the water.

[01:11:14]Yeah. So, switchi, >> I'm always sweet. I'm the sweetest person anyone could ever meet.

[01:11:18]>> But most people don't know that.

[01:11:20]>> So, most people see me. And by the way, let me tell you guys, I want to ask people, why is money a title? Why why do you guys forget people's personality in front of the money always, you know, people have amazing personalities.

[01:11:34]Growing up in a good family, we don't choose our parents. I didn't know I wasn't in my mom's womb and I decided I want to be my dad.

[01:11:44]>> Oh, I want to be my father. You understand? But people have amazing personalities. You people who are lazy and broke, you always want to put money first. No, people are amazing. People are well raised in good families.

[01:12:02]Yeah.

[01:12:05]today like you know small small small things.

[01:12:09]>> Yeah.

[01:12:10]>> Right. So um how is your DJing?

[01:12:14]>> Oh DJing is doing good. I just recently came back from South Africa. I just made one year as a DJ this this April as well.

[01:12:20]>> I made one year as a DJ. I was in South Africa in during Ramadan cuz I learned from there. Yeah. Uh my craft is mostly fully like South African.

[01:12:29]>> I started going to South Africa when I was like eight. So >> my, you know, I know the culture from from there. Even when I'm there, they think I'm South African.

[01:12:38]>> So I I always do my things slowly. Like even how I built my brand. There's always never pressure.

[01:12:43]>> I I I'm very particular on how I want my brand to be represented and how I want my craft to be shown as well. There's no pressure. There's no competition.

[01:12:53]Everyone's doing amazing. Female DJs are doing so good. Male DJs are doing amazing as well. And they also actually help us learn a lot as female DJs. So DJing is doing so good. But people need to remember DJing is literally a micro branding from Shila.

[01:13:09]>> So it's just like Shila is up there with the branding and then it's like a micro company. It's like how you have like a media house then you have like a radio a TV >> TV the website.

[01:13:20]>> Yes. So it's like a it's a brand that is just growing. It's not like there are no points to prove whatsoever.

[01:13:28]But yeah, we're doing good.

[01:13:29]>> And the night life, >> you know that I'm number one in the game.

[01:13:33]>> So, that one is that's my playground.

[01:13:36]>> Recently, there's a video of you I saw on X.

[01:13:39]>> You are up dancing.

[01:13:40]>> When was that? This week?

[01:13:41]>> Uh I think I had gone to DJ there.

[01:13:45]>> Yes. So, we >> you're up dancing and people are like, "What is what the hell is she doing?"

[01:13:50]>> Dancing.

[01:13:52]You know, we putting on a top and with a so that's bad, you know, and people are doing these these businesses, they come, they have money. So, let people have fun, let people enjoy, like, you know, let let people enjoy, let people be whoever they want to be.

[01:14:18]>> As long as me. I don't have any problem with whatever anyone does.

[01:14:26]>> Yeah.

[01:14:29]>> We're trying to make sure we change the game for sure. And hosted I don't know >> let me tell you do you know when we started shop life with Godwin I used to tell Godwin I started it alone of course we started from Kay then we went to I partnered with Godwin at garden city in >> I used to tell why are we paying all these DJs it's me and Godwin who started putting DJs DJ booth with their names so that people Like we gave DJs that presence whereby someone is DJing, your name is up there, people know who you are, >> you are.

[01:15:12]>> Yes. We we're the ones who like no one can even come and say we the ones who change that thing. We're like, you know what?

[01:15:24]What is the reason for that? So let's that DJs always have their center stage with the names. Even with a bottle culture, Ugandans used to always buy.

[01:15:33]There were only like three people then that were bowling that was like but now because we said no why is it only those people we created the culture whereby he will feel like the king that weekend and thanks to Uganda Airlines now we have people flying in from South Africa every every >> every weekend.

[01:15:59]Yes. I'm a Nigerian. Remember there's a new direct flight from Uganda to Nigeria. There's direct flight from Uganda to to to the UK.

[01:16:06]>> Yeah.

[01:16:06]>> So the culture has changed.

[01:16:08]>> Oh, so people also come from the UK.

[01:16:09]>> Yes. UK people are here. Some people come on the weekends and they go back from Nigeria people come on the South Africans.

[01:16:16]say, you know, but it's because of chop life is the one that changed the the the night life industry for people to show up, dance, whatever, bottles, but the drama, the DJs, we were flying in DJs every weekend. So the the industry has changed and I'm so glad to be part of the the movement. But now also we are entering into the DJs in South Africa.

[01:16:36]DJs are bigger than the >> artists. Artists >> really.

[01:16:39]>> Yes.

[01:16:40]And I see >> I get the artist can sing but the branding we are here seeing like so many DJs are going on tour is in Tanzania. There's let's say Tanya is in Kenya and doing East African tour.

[01:16:54]Alishia Alicia by the way is a female DJ who has done most countries.

[01:16:59]>> She has been done Ghana, Nigeria, Kivoir like everywhere.

[01:17:06]Of course, she's run, but she's also Ugandan.

[01:17:10]>> But I think, you know, she's she's doing so well. She has done so many African countries that even artists have not what >> have not done.

[01:17:16]>> I've not done. Now these CDJs are coming up like is doing I think one of the pool parties at Afroation. She has done East African tour. Last year I did Randa tour. I'm doing Kenya Tanzania tour.

[01:17:25]I've just been booked for Australia tour uh to headline with one of the biggest Nigerian artists in November. So it's about branding. Yes. Those are the things I left that time which was good. I I love Gravity. I feel like has a good personality is very talented but and Palaso remember he's even been in the US before. He imagine him singing like a a you know a song in English or mixing like you see how Joshua Joshua But they pulling him down. Let me tell you one thing from beginning. Everyone knows that DJ says paid me for an advert.

[01:18:24]Those days I was charging 100 was after snap 24 hours. I said who is this boy?

[01:18:30]Boy can sing just acoustic. Those days I was on NBS music video on an interview the other day music video. Who is he until I told them guys let the guy come he sings with his guitar and says his story for that was his first ever interview.

[01:18:55]Then he did his first song.

[01:18:58]You know he was very talented. I remember those days one time.

[01:19:17]I was still dating. Actually, I also met him through as well after me. Can you guys help me? I had to call the owner.

[01:19:30]It's it's for me I love because I've seen it from I think he was staying in somewhere his mom must be yes this boy is young on the way on if he wants he can always me here 2 minutes at what you had ever been cuz he's friends So I told him, you guys have to protect this boy. He's going to be so good. I can show you there's a boy called what? Joshua.

[01:20:16]There's a boy called.

[01:20:21]So I'm so proud of him.

[01:20:24]in that local local way to let's try and be versatile. You you know Don Jazzi >> of course I know Don Jazzi M used to do music PR you know see which which date was this 2021 >> hey what's up I told him this boy is very talented hope you can work with him one day Joshua >> introducing a Ugandan boy >> with his jitter >> with his jitter >> 19 years very talented please consider him when you're looking at signing someone in the Ugandan market >> wow >> this is 2021 26 years ago.

[01:21:04]So for me just like they are also my friends. So I'm so proud of him and that is something that has ruined Ugan artists so good. You have to go out and do better. Like that is why me I go to South Africa and I learn my craft there not because I can't learn here >> but it's different when you go to the source you can even see these days is one of the biggest producers in the world just one I think he told you those things so artist why DJs are moving bigger than them >> because they trying they become networking.

[01:21:55]Yeah. So, I'm seeing that they're trying to push it, you know. Me, I don't even know. If you tell me to mention Ugandan songs now, I can't mention 10, you can't even beat me. 2026. I don't know.

[01:22:07]>> Do you know any?

[01:22:08]>> Yeah, I do.

[01:22:09]>> I know a's new song.

[01:22:13]>> I know that body to body. I think it's F and Tojo >> and that's it. I don't know any other songs.

[01:22:30]anything.

[01:22:40]>> I see. Anyway, it's been nice having this conversation.

[01:22:44]>> Always great.

[01:22:45]>> So, one hour like 20 minutes >> and it feels like five minutes.

[01:22:50]>> I know.

[01:22:52]>> Yeah. But because there's always a lot we can talk about.

[01:22:54]>> Yeah. I feel like take long to do these interviews, >> but but this is the better >> really.

[01:22:59]>> Yeah. I'm I'm I'm not a fan. Actually I tell my friends you know >> sometimes you need to limit then >> like so many people always telling me like you should do a podcast and I'm like guys I can't like I can't manage also consistency like I'm so busy >> and but there also people who are born naturals like you like you know people I love love your videos like >> favorite >> you've been watching >> YouTubers >> have you watched >> listen oh my god I forgot I'm such a fan of this Do you know I I saw Louisa when I was selling hair when I was 17? When I was still in school.

[01:23:41]>> He came to you?

[01:23:42]>> No. He was dating a popular artist those days.

[01:23:45]>> Yes. Yes. Yes.

[01:23:46]>> So the lady had had ordered her for me but I didn't know who he was. Like I didn't know who the guy was. So my dad used to help me like help me with deliveries. Like I would go with him and he drives me, you know. So we met at like that shell near that Forest Mall. M I think for a small just to deliver the hair for the artist.

[01:24:15]>> So when I see him doing this interviews like before and after he's wild like he's in his own like life.

[01:24:26]>> Rasa gave up on life.

[01:24:27]>> He gave up on life. just chose to do his own things.

[01:24:30]>> You know, when I was trying to explain to you, I couldn't make it for your your judges barrier cuz it was my birthday, remember?

[01:24:35]>> Yeah.

[01:24:36]>> And then the way he told you, you were telling, you know, he's like, you know, and and sometimes I'm like, are you guys acting?

[01:24:46]>> That's him.

[01:25:02]No, I actually do. I remember I deliver and then he spoke to my dad. He used to own clubs right in he spoke a bit and that I'm like why is this guy's name and face a bit familiar?

[01:25:22]her name, she will call me.

[01:25:29]She's a very beautiful lady. She isal >> and she's actually um my entire life.

[01:25:37]>> Some of the best people I've met.

[01:25:39]>> Yeah, she's one of >> She's a very kind, understanding person.

[01:25:44]>> The >> shout out to Rasa.

[01:25:47]Shout out to Russa and another girl.

[01:25:48]Like I like black sugar.

[01:25:50]>> You like I like her like she does like the way she speaks like she's so confident. I love women who are so confident in themselves. But sweetheart female ladies who are there leave artists alone cuz you know what hurts me.

[01:26:22]Shout out to you brown sugar.

[01:26:25]Black sugar. Black sugar. Ohafe.

[01:26:32]She's like she calls me >> me. I don't know. I don't even have a clan.

[01:26:39]>> The heartbreak will be thorough.

[01:26:41]>> Yeah, she has felt it.

[01:26:42]>> No, I like her. I like that she's very confident in her skin. That's number one. Like she's such a black beauty.

[01:26:47]>> Also, she's confident. Yeah. But please, >> girl, >> in your next life or even your next just stay away from from artists.

[01:26:59]>> Yeah.

[01:27:00]>> Yes. Cuz artists will drain you. Not and they will not drain you in a way that they wanted to drain you because you want to see them >> push and go up there. You know, sometimes By the way, my last advice today as a girl, you must be the most useless person in human man's phone contacts.

[01:27:30]>> Useless most useless. What?

[01:27:33]What I mean most useless >> is >> you see like you know I've dated different people like not so many days guys people give me like the highest body count I don't think I've dated even more than six people for real >> don't laugh I'm not joking for real but you know I'm in a phase in my life whereby I've realized that a man >> who is going to be a proper man has already been groomed and raised mentally emotionally physically by the end by the age of 2021.

[01:28:10]in the contact list of your boyfriend.

[01:28:16]He wants to think of an ide >> you should be among the people but the least people do you understand like for me like let's say the person I'm seeing now >> he wakes up in the morning and does his own stuff and he does so many things at the same time but Let me give an example.

[01:28:44]Black sugar. Yes.

[01:28:57]If your man has problems ideas because you're you're struggling to make sure this guy is right figure his out.

[01:29:18]>> A man has to figure his out. You wake up in the morning.

[01:29:29]It's a lot of work. That kind of energy.

[01:29:31]You need it for yourself.

[01:29:34]For yourself.

[01:29:38]And it's love. It's okay.

[01:29:40]Will be hard. I saw the man crying >> yesterday. The man Why was he crying?

[01:29:45]>> The man was like, >> "It was real love. So why doesn't she get back with her?

[01:29:51]But let me tell you, let me tell you about I'm not doing public relationship anymore, >> but I have learned a lot in the relationship I'm in right now, whereby the person I'm with knows his life. He's probably the most >> organized person I know in my life.

[01:30:10]>> I've never been with someone whereby ate I'm the one who asks like, "What do you think I should do?" I was always up. I'm always my whole life I have it structured but babe what do you think do you think this is right if I make this decision okay I've made this kind of money what do you think I should do you think I should and he's like no you know buying small small land will not make sense you'd rather buy like a you know so even the resale values my dear yet they had the fall my dear and I already said it last time I'm just giving general examples of women who pour so much >> okay let's say you see this glass you must pour as small as this for a man This at least not don't be emptyheaded.

[01:31:15]You should always, you know, try and >> but pour this little. If you pour this much, it's a lot.

[01:31:36]Black sugar.

[01:31:37]>> And she's such a lover. I like her. I've never met her, but I always do her sounds like her and fullfigure sounds.

[01:31:43]Of course, they just crack me up. But like one thing is that stop it.

[01:31:49]>> I used to feel like it was good when it's you who tells a man like, "Oh, you know, do this, do that, or whatever."

[01:31:57]No, it's not. It's it's it's good. Like always be at least the most you can give is peace. When a man is at peace, he can always figure his things out.

[01:32:10]So be the peace of course. Uh let him be happy. You know you can adise here and there like once in a year give to advice. That's it. If a man can't advise himself and be in full control of himself. How do you trust someone like that?

[01:32:37]My sister.

[01:32:39]Why?

[01:32:43]Oh no. I love Zubed. Of course I Oh my god. The daughter Ugandans. What is wrong with you? How can people beef with kids like on the internet?

[01:32:53]Now imagine if Tik Tok was there when I was still on WBS 8 years.

[01:32:57]Who beefs with a young child? Like a young confident child. If you told those people beefing with this daughter to bring their kids there this like >> you understand dancing way but you like and I was like yeah I love this girl like I kept reposting I love that kind of energy >> you reposting.

[01:33:16]>> Yes I on Tik Tok.

[01:33:17]>> Yes.

[01:33:18]>> Wow that's good.

[01:33:18]>> I was reposting and I love that Zubeda never shied away from anything. She kept posting her kid, her child. Most people want you to feel bad.

[01:33:35]Like chin up ladies like your kids are amazing.

[01:33:42]They don't know how to raise even a child. others if you bought your kids in front of your that you cannot find a proper mom or a parent or a person who has been well raised having beef with a child they have never met because but me I've never seen Zubed abusing anyone on the social on social media I don't see her abusing anyone but people some people have an issue with >> I think people people just have issues with happy people M >> I also like this guy called comment commenter. He helped me get the boy that you know I'm I'm helping >> the boy that I took the one who was on the street.

[01:34:27]>> The internet is crazy. Yeah. Is also a good guy that I like on Tik Tok. Those are my favorite Tik Tokers. like >> social media is a lot is happening and I was telling her what seeing as we were waiting to come up here for she's lucky >> during the day she's asleep so by the time she wakes up because she was asking so what I'm saying he's asking he wants a break what's up with >> YOU KNOW I NEVER KNOW what's going on like but I wake up at 5 when the day is almost done even when he actually killed the ch kids everyone was talking about it and I'm like guys what what is happening like what is actually happening And now I'm seeing the whole trial. But it's going to be hard. You know people with those kind of passports. That's why so many people come on such British passports, UK passport, I mean UK passports, US everything.

[01:35:28]Yeah, but it's so sad like young kids and you know, but home care, how can you have a daycare with no cameras?

[01:35:33]Sincerely. Anyway, we don't know how the budget was.

[01:35:38]>> But yeah, shout out to Rasa. We should one time meet. Maybe >> you want to meet Rasa?

[01:35:42]>> I should start doing awkward dates, you know, on YouTube. Imagine me on a date with Rasa, like for YouTube.

[01:35:49]It would be so funny.

[01:35:50]>> Mhm. You don't know what you're asking for. You'd rather you meet Magala.

[01:35:55]>> Who is that?

[01:35:57]>> Oh, the one who loves meat.

[01:35:58]>> Yes, >> the man loves meat.

[01:36:04]Is he Muganda, right?

[01:36:05]>> Yes, he is.

[01:36:05]>> It's like there some men who say was like >> he loves meat and he's very serious.

[01:36:15]Doesn't joke with his meat. All types of meat or specific meat? beef.

[01:36:26]CEO happiness is in so many like little little things.

[01:36:31]>> Yeah.

[01:36:31]>> You just make sure his meat is there.

[01:36:34]>> He tells you he told the wife the day he refuses meat >> they prepare for his death.

[01:36:40]>> True.

[01:36:41]>> If he can't eat anymore.

[01:36:42]>> Imagine if I went on a YouTube awkward awkward date with him and they just bring sushi and food. He doesn't know. I would love to see that. He will not eat.

[01:36:50]He will not eat.

[01:36:52]>> We should take him to like those Brazilian, you know that cuts where they give all types of meat. They pay for crocodile meat.

[01:36:59]>> We take him to >> speak.

[01:37:02]>> No, no, no. There's a >> No. No. Is it?

[01:37:04]>> No.

[01:37:06]Much we take him to >> all the meat comes and we see there's also this guy who does videos of eating pork. You see the guy and the way he can eat it can make you want to order it there.

[01:37:38]you watch >> like the Tik Tok show up like that's why I'm saying like >> what business is it knowing that kind of one but Tik Tok now I know him >> so that has been us today 1 hour and a half >> shout out to yes >> I remember you telling me about one time let me give you guys a So one time Chumi was renting somewhere that like my friend's dad owns the place.

[01:38:12]Someone had bought the I'm compensating at least something and all that. I think that's where there was just so much drama because of me. I think they even went live with there was so much going on like you know the story is that the niece or something.

[01:38:47]>> I've never seen you in an interview with me. You guys are not friends. We we are >> people you know each other.

[01:38:53]>> We know each other.

[01:38:55]We know each other actually has me for money, >> but there's a pace she's at.

[01:39:08]>> Her energy is up.

[01:39:12]And I'm like, >> sometimes when you meet someone with so much energy, then they drain yours. You don't even know where to. I I'm like, "Okay, I've met her like like five times, >> but every time I meet her, the next day there's a scandal she has been Oh, but she's one of those people I like.

[01:39:40]It's just >> I like that she's so free like >> Yeah, but she's so free spirited. Like she's, you know, she's so likable. You know, someone you just >> Yeah.

[01:39:48]>> You know, you just like their content and stuff and model music. The good guys, good lady music.

[01:39:56]>> No, he's that's a man.

[01:39:57]>> No, >> that's my sister.

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