Municipal utility districts operate through structured governance processes that include public comment periods, board meetings, and formal decision-making procedures. These meetings address critical community issues such as park maintenance, infrastructure repairs, budget allocations, and resident concerns. Public participation allows community members to voice opinions on matters affecting their neighborhood, including safety issues like unauthorized vehicle access to green spaces, infrastructure improvements like tree replacement and path repairs, and facility access rights. The governance framework ensures transparency, accountability, and community engagement in local decision-making processes.
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RPMUD Board Meeting 5-18-2026Added:
It is 6:30 p.m.
May 18th, 2026.
>> There's two copies. One of them needs to be initialed.
>> We are turning the River Plantation Municipal Utility District meeting.
First item on the agenda is to receive comments from the public on matters included in the agenda.
We've got first person that said yes is Betty Brown. Ready?
>> Can I just make comments that don't have to be on the agenda?
>> Davis, I have a question on that. We have two to receive comments from the public now.
Why is that?
>> Just a request to handle it that way um previously. So, um We can we can do it however the board wants but but um at at one point I was asked to include it on the agenda.
>> Anybody have any objection of uh receiving comments now that are not on the agenda?
Okay.
>> Did Did Did Would you like me to combine it into a single item going forward?
>> Yes, I think so.
>> Okay.
No problem.
>> Okay, I just wanted to make a couple comments.
I wanted to personally thank Julie Gilmer and Tim Goodman for the massive amount of responsibility they've handled over the last few years and taking care of the old committee, getting us moving in the right direction, and taking the accountability and responsibility.
And also for enduring the lies and everything that was spread about them during the nasty campaign that was put before them right before this board.
And I want to thank them for everything they've done, and have a lot of respect for them. And for the two new board members, I want to I'll be at the meetings, and hope that you guys jump in and and get things done, and I will be looking to hold you guys accountable, cuz you guys have big shoes to fill.
And I want this handled for our community to be the way it's supposed to be.
Not on gossip and things that are on social media.
And that's all I have to say.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Uh Laurie Miranda.
>> This isn't one of the agenda items. Um Um this is regarding um the Charleston green space. My home resides on it, and um I want to discuss the issue of the dirt bikes being ridden on the Charleston path, and it's primarily in the area of River Plantation Drive, but it also occurs in a farther up Shiloh towards um I-45.
And the bikes are being driven really fast, and they're close to walkers. And also now there's children actually playing out in the green space.
And to me this is a safety issue, as both the walkers and the and a child, you know, could be startled or the bike, you know, entering the path um and um concrete or in dirt, you know, something and they they hit and end up hitting each other.
Um the and the park and I know the park rules prohibit these type of vehicles and it stated only golf carts and by licensed drivers are allowed. And I wasn't involved in the development of those rules, but I see those as both from a liability perspective from RP Mud and us, you know, as residents from being sued and also, you know, for the safety of our neighbors.
And my when they were driving back and forth, you know, like I said, we're on the green green green space. We were out in the yard and the lady was walking and they flew by her really fast and my my husband stopped, you know, and asked, you know, could you know, can you slow down at least going to the green space.
And they did that for a while and then the next weekend, again, they were out doing it. And we stopped them again and one of the young men said that he quoted he just wants to ride the bike.
And we we understand that.
We have 20 grandkids, so I know exactly, you know, what they're saying. But for me it's a safety liability issue and it could possibly um and that's also implied, you know, in the rules that they're not supposed to be doing that.
Um and then on a similar topic, um even though these park rules are the they're posted everywhere within the green space.
I don't know that people are actually reading stopping and reading those. Um because there's been numerous places that um for example, that uh they used to hit the golf balls right out from, you know, where we live. And they up y'all updated the the signage to include, you know, that it's not a functioning golf course anymore. And they did, you know, the they did decrease, you know, they immensely them hitting the balls, but every so often I do see people still coming out there and hitting balls. And I go and I would go out there and I tell them, you know, there's a sign up here.
And, you know, usually they do stop. Um but again, um I can see why they want to hit the balls there. I mean, it used to be a golf course. It's perfect, you know, to do that. But again, I think there's the liability because people are still walking. Um and it will so it rolls down to a safety issue.
And so, what I I'm saying is asking is could these uh park rules be communicated by the board maybe um yearly, maybe in the flyer, you know, when the water bill comes out either in January or December? And that way that um and and with the if we do it in the mailings, I don't think there would be any additional cost.
So, [clears throat] in summary, what I'm saying is is my thoughts um are for the neighbors and the residents actually to abide by the rules. I don't know how they can be enforced, but um anyway, that's if I need it for you guys. And to also um to ensure that um that the that the board that everyone that the board sends some communi- communications out, you know, so everyone's you know, aware of the rules.
So, that's just my two cents.
>> I think that's a great suggestion.
>> Okay.
>> Like a friendly reminder each year.
>> Right. Right.
>> I I agree.
>> I'm not a public speaker as you can tell.
>> No, you No, you did great.
>> good. Awesome.
>> I think it could should go out more than once a year, like quarterly.
>> That's an email or something.
>> Let's talk about it later.
>> I can get to it when you talk about it.
>> All right.
>> Okay, next on the list is Lee Judge.
>> I would just like to talk to you about the lease for the pool at the club.
I happen to look at that lease and in section 7 it says that the district's residents and taxpayers, Fairway Village, Fairway Estates, Plantation Village, Moss Wood, and River Plantation subdivisions would have access to the facilities. Now, all of these neighbors had paid for the bond.
They're still paying for the bond which made acquiring Charleston possible.
But, it seems that Moss Wood and Fairway Village are being eliminated from the use of the pool.
Now, the only common denominator here is that Moss Wood has no HOA and Fairway Village has their own.
So, it really kind of sounds like discrimination here.
You are the landlord. The lessee is violating the lease. All of these people need to have access to that pool cuz they paid for the bond.
Now, it'd be nice if you could fix this before the pool season starts.
Now, under section 8, the CIA has 30 days to cure the problem.
So, I'm hoping that you will work on this so they don't miss the year like they did last year.
>> Okay.
Mia Sanders.
>> Hello.
My name is Mia Sanders. I'm appearing tonight under a full reservation of my legal rights. It is absolutely disgraceful that this board would weaponize thousands of our dollars, our neighborhood's taxpayer funds, just to put a resident through a quarter million dollar legal circus over a temporary garage sale sign that was lawfully placed and never even touched district land.
To make matters worse, immediately after I posted a fact-based, document-backed community update to our neighbors, my local Nextdoor account was abruptly shut down by a biased review team controlled by members of this very leadership, or was.
I am here to offer this board one final opportunity to mitigate its own mounting liability.
As of today, I have established a hard alibi for the 10:50 a.m. incident proving the assault allegation was a complete fabrication.
I have also identified a documented pattern of retaliatory litigation in this community, such as case 21-11-15275, which demonstrates that this district uses lawsuits as an intentional weapon of attrition.
My demand, I am calling for an immediate dismissal of the $5,000 fine and the $250,000 lawsuit.
The alternative, if you are unwilling to dismiss these meritless claims tonight, I demand an administrative stay of all penalties until the new board members, Hernandez and Porch, are fully seated and can review the internal communications regarding this entire matter.
Be clear, whether you drop this tonight or not, my claims for first amendment retaliation and malicious prosecution have already accrued.
However, if you refuse to dismiss or stay these proceedings tonight, I am moving forward today, May 18th, with a compulsory counterclaim seeking $2 million in punitive damages against the district and individual board members in their personal capacities.
This is your single chance to stop the bleeding of taxpayer funds before the new board takes over.
My position is fully stated in the formal document I have provided for the official record. Any discovery or questioning related to the district court case will be handled strictly through the formal judicial process. I'm done speaking.
>> We can discuss that in item nine.
Um Chris Wait. Wait.
>> Wakefield >> Wakefield >> My knee's better than it was last week.
>> Okay, Steve. You're going to be talking about the butterfly garden.
>> The butterfly garden, sir.
>> Do you Do you want to wait till that agenda item?
>> We can wait till the end of it. Like I said, I'm I'm going to I'm going to take up some time on that, so I can wait till the last.
>> we're at item number three, so >> No, you guys you got all these >> [laughter] >> I'm sorry.
>> Whatever whatever I said, I need to go.
>> All right. Is there anybody else that did not say yes who would like to speak?
Okay.
Let's move to item number two, park maintenance matters.
Mark >> Uh I got several things >> [clears throat] >> going on.
I have passed out um the budget request for the 10 trees that we've already approved.
Uh we had put a pause on it cuz we were trying to work out the watering issue.
And we have got that uh figured out. The second page shows where the 10 trees will uh make, you [clears throat] know, maybe they go.
Uh but we drove it and walked it, Mary and I did.
And he was able to confirm that it would only take three taps.
And the top dollar per tap would be 1,500.
That's top end, it wouldn't cost you more than that. So basically 4,500.
So again, that is just a budget item.
Hopefully be able to bless them with that.
That would service all 10 trees. So we wouldn't have that problem. And to compare that, I was just looking at my original figures, you know, we were thinking about having to do a water tank.
And it was coming up to like almost $7,700 annually to pay somebody to go and do it, you know.
So in comparison, uh it's actually going to be a much better um project to do that. [snorts] Uh so I'm asking for a budget of 1,500 [clears throat] to move forward with trying to replace some of our trees that we've lost um in the park area.
Um so we can just keep that as a note.
Probably many of you have noticed the uh the pond level is down, and then also the fountain is down. The fountain was already coming down before they had lowered the water down.
Uh lowered the level of the water down.
Some of the crew members had to go and do some repair with concrete, right, Mary Ann?
>> Correct.
>> And so they had to leave it down longer for it to cure. And so I saw y'all out there today. We all filling it back up.
>> it back up now.
>> Okay, good. So that's part of the problem, but I think the biggest problem is probably the filters. They're going to get clogged. They come out once a month for the the great price that we have, which is the last month or last week of each month.
I've uh texted them to see if they could come out anytime this week just to speed it up. Not for an extra visit, but I just to come early. He said they would try, but they had a full schedule, but they would keep it in mind. If not, it would be the last week of this month they would handle it.
The good issue or the good part about this is um I expressed some concerns originally when I spoke to him about um [clears throat] you know, maybe the pump burning up or whatever when it gets into that kind of shape, and he says, "No, no worries." There's He made it sound like there was multiple breakers. So, if it's gets in that kind of a uh strain, it will just cut itself off. No problems. Um so, they're going to take care of that. The motor was already back up, and uh so, I think that pretty well takes care of it. I haven't changed anything or made contact with the uh mowing company yet. Um but I did reach out to him by email, but so far uh I think the original agreement that we had was was pretty good. We can always take a look at anything later on and reevaluate.
Um any any questions or anything about that?
>> Would you Would you need to make a motion to approve this budget?
>> Yep.
>> Is this with the CIA that >> Oh, we parted with >> parted with the CIA.
>> [cough and laughter] >> This This [clears throat] is our part.
>> Right.
>> The only thing that's with the CIA is that we're all buying trees from the same >> Right. That's what I meant.
>> Yep.
>> Yeah.
>> So, we get a like a discount.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's all.
>> Yeah. Well, if there's no questions, I'll move that we accept the proposed budget for 11-5. We'll then approve that so they can get started.
>> I have a second.
>> Third.
>> We we a second. [laughter] >> Oh, you got a second.
I'm new, y'all.
Third, fourth, and fifth.
>> All in favor.
>> Aye.
>> Aye.
>> Motion passes.
>> Uh one thing to note, guys, uh Michael Murray, who is doing y'all's sprinkler system that you guys contracted with, is here tonight. He was going to give you guys a brief update uh during the >> Okay.
>> Michael >> All right, let's let's have him come up.
>> Okay, we're ready for the next item.
>> Uh give me a minute. I'll hold on.
>> He's going to give us an update on the sprinkler system.
>> Which sprinkler system? Is this >> By the park?
>> No, that's totally separate.
>> Okay.
>> Just the irrigation system.
>> I got you.
>> All right, good evening. As uh >> Could you come up to the podium, please?
>> Yeah, if you would like.
>> Yeah.
>> As uh y'all just heard, we uh y'all [clears throat] signed a contract last month to for us to take a look at your irrigation system on the nine holes that is considered uh I guess parkland now in this abandoned golf course.
So, we just got started on this, and I wanted to bring you an overview of what we found so far, and let you tell me where to stop cuz I'm not sure exactly what y'all have in mind, but you need to know what's going on. You have nine controllers, and this is what I know today, and we're still getting into this. You have nine controllers, which is basically one per hole.
Um someone has put in a cheaper Rainbird controller in place of a Toro golf controller, which once was in its very expensive controller.
So, they put in a cheaper Rainbird controller for what's there now. We basically come in thus far just on uh hole number one, controller number one, and started to repair the lines. With Mario's help, we got the um valves back on. There was a lot of leaks. We got the valves back on, and we're starting to repair leaks and broken wires right now in the main line.
You have uh at least in hole number one, you've got 16 of these high-powered golf course rotors that are um out there, and out of those 16, nine are broken.
These rotors are very expensive. They're around $1,000 a piece, or or there's a kit that a repair kit that's cheaper, but then you've got the labor to take this thing apart and put it back together. So, I don't know what balances out at the end of the day. I'm going to bring you those facts and figures next month.
But, this is just an a night we're in we're into uh um controller two and three also right now, but we've got several more to go.
I guess what I'm getting at is I don't know what y'all's budget looks like, but this could be a very expensive endeavor.
And before I go spending your money, I'd like to know where you are budget-wise, and I'd like to know what your intentions are with this land because maybe this isn't the route to go.
>> Well, we don't have a budget set for this. Um but what we'd like to do is get an approximation.
>> Okay.
>> And if you can give us a couple different options, we'd appreciate it.
>> Sure. I I and I intend to do that. Right now, we're just a couple of thousand dollars into it, and I don't want to go too far because it's going to get real expensive real fast, and I want to bring you the facts and at least get your temperature on >> Can I ask you clarification? So, it's going to get real expensive real fast just to make an evaluation? Is that where this is >> No. No. What I mean is to No, I can make an evaluation. And and that's that's my job.
>> Okay.
>> But, that's what you hired me for.
>> Right.
>> But, to fix it, it's going to get real expensive real fast, and I'll give you those facts and figures first.
>> Is there a lot of stuff missing?
>> Sir?
>> We don't need the golf course, but we do need to keep the grass alive and we need to keep the trees alive. That's our objective.
>> I understand.
>> You know, just [clears throat] keep it looking nice. So, if there's ways we don't have Maybe we're doing things we don't need to. Maybe golf course level and park level are different. So, you might keep that in mind.
>> I will. And and that's what I'll do. I guess to to give you a broad brush, these high-powered rotors that used to water the golf course are coming right off the main line.
The op- other option you may be talking about is to put in just a simpler system with way less expensive uh uh heads, irrigation heads, but then you're going to involve piping to those heads, which you don't have now.
So, we'll look at both those options for you.
>> might be a better option for us, but I don't know.
>> It might be. I don't know yet.
>> What size piping is in there right now?
>> Uh I think you've got I think you've got a 3 to 4-in pipe.
>> I think it's a 4-in. So, so just for some his- historical measures, you know, you guys originally two two years ago brought in someone and the whole purpose was to try to get the system up and running. And what happened was we were working on that and then we were running into this issue that there was a ton of leaks. Uh there was issues with the heads where they would get stuck on and things like that. It was, you know, a call a day tomorrow to go out there and shut off the system. And so, it's been off for a period of time. Luckily, we've had a ton of rain and so, it hasn't been 100% necessary.
Um but it looks like it just continued to deteriorate cuz the whole purpose of the original was just to see what was left in the ground to see if we could get it operational and functional. I think what Michael's kind of pointing towards is we might be on the downhill slope of a a recoverable system.
>> Well, didn't we spend $40,000 exactly?
instead of these high-powered tanks?
>> 100 ton tanks?
>> I mean, those that you guys are doing it.
>> It's been in since the '60s.
Within it takes more piping and maybe it didn't break.
>> Yeah, you're going to have to go to 3 or 4 in piping there.
>> 3 to 4 in to do that. I mean, uh >> I'm playing golf and I know what you're talking about. I mean, the heads are very expensive.
>> I just wanted to give you where I was and I'll bring back your options. I don't know what they may be yet in order to keep these fairways green.
I understand what you're trying to do.
You probably don't want to use a lot of water, but enough to keep everything alive.
So, and I don't know what your intentions for this land are.
So.
>> Just for what it's doing now. Just for people to know.
>> Thanks, buddy.
>> Okay.
>> [snorts] >> You know, things like that.
>> That's all I have. I just wanted to give you a >> And just so you know, the water's free.
We You're lucky.
>> Yeah.
>> [laughter] >> Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> If I may.
For his point, though.
That irrigation line has been in since what? The '70s?
Okay. I mean, my grandfather >> Back in the '60s.
>> Okay, yeah, '60s. My grandfather had a It's 40 Well, 50 years old now, that piece of property that I'm at. Grandpa has 3 and 4-in lines and I had a break in one that was under some trees in the back. I had to get a trackhoe back there just to get to the break, about 2-ft down, and the parts alone for the 3-in line, I mean, my cost on those things were like you know, almost $60 per fitting, you know, on a 3-in pipe. So, I mean, and this stuff's been in the ground for a very long time. So, when you pressurize something that hasn't been pressurized in a while and then wear and tear and the root systems, you're going to He's He's going to find needs lots of different breaks in there. But again, that system's going to be a lot more efficient to water big areas than breaking down individual small ones like you're doing on a house cuz you just have so much acreage just to water.
>> That's correct.
>> Thank you.
>> Look forward to hearing from you.
You know, if that's the situation.
Did you have any questions?
>> This.
>> What?
>> the park issue, I'd like to bring up a new initiative.
I've been looking at these park trails and some of the possible liability and the problems of appearance.
And I would like to propose that we look at replacing all the chipped concrete and broken and up uprooted uh paths and things like that. I think it's a liability. It needs to be fixed and I'm thinking it would improve the entire neighborhood.
Uh primary cause of most of our problem, I think, is because none of this concrete was reinforced when it was put in. Even some stuff that was put in in the last couple of years is chipping and big like down in section six down there.
It's chipped up real bad.
And what uh what I'd like to do is remove all the serious chipping, get rid of the root intrusions, uneven paths, level it up, get the cart paths looking good and like they should. And I would like to add approximately 70 ft of cart path from on section five where it start the cart path just stops. Just and it go ahead and bring it through back over to the bridge so that people can make that loop. And it's about a two two and a half mile trip if they go around the whole thing.
>> [snorts] >> So anyway, that could be done. And one of the things I'd like to see us do is to uh set some standards, get Taylor to work up for us, but possibly like 3/16 in rebar on 12-in centers or something like that on the repair so we don't have this again.
And what I'm proposing here is that we have uh two action items I'd like to look at.
One is to get an engineering involved in this uh as far as the specs putting them together. I'll give you the details for you to look at.
>> Okay.
>> Uh I would I tell you that the next thing I'd like to is be able to go get some listed bids. So, this board's going to have to agree to do these things.
And the funds where they're talking about they would come from if you recall in Lake 25, we put $600,000 that we recovered from Talcas over damages. That fund was put in there for us to do projects like this. I don't think it's going to be anywhere near that kind of a price, but I you know, we got to get we got to start somewhere.
And so, anyway, that that's what I would like to see us do and I'd like you guys to go ahead and operate it so Taylor can start looking at [snorts] it.
You want to copy this?
>> Yeah, that's what I >> What is good?
>> Any other discussion on that?
>> So, I will say you know, when we when you guys first took over the park was shortly before we came on and and one of the issues was to you know, pretty much survey it, you know, so I have plenty of videos that I've surveyed it in the past and kind of mapped out all a lot of these breakages and everything. It's a standard detail that we typically use the wire mesh reinforcement that's >> This one is to reinforce >> Yeah, [clears throat] well, it's it's one of the reinforcement, but it's two of the the the bedding. So, typically when they put them in for golf cart path, they don't put any sort of subgrade on them. And especially with y'all's area with the silty soils, the subgrade is pretty important cuz that's kind of that foundation for for it.
>> Well, I would like to go forward with the board's approval to get this to get this thing [clears throat] rolling.
>> I would I would recommend y'all uh authorize the preliminary design. Let me work up a cost estimate so you guys know what what amount of money you're looking at and then we can start saying okay, we want to do X number of feet a year or or whatever it may be. I mean, we have more than enough cost estimates in our office. It It should be fairly easy task to put together you guys a reasonable cost estimate with all the repair issues. And that way you can make an educated the on what >> What's is worst part of it? I ain't going to argue with >> Worst part is probably down that northern section. If you go down there like in the second, third one and there's some a bad part of them here on the second, third I think.
No, not not eights.
Two and three, that's what >> Two and three?
>> Yeah, two and three I think had some bad ones.
But there's several, they're all over the place.
>> Right. Right. Right.
>> Tell me how how thick is the concrete typically?
>> The standard Standard sidewalk is 4 in.
Uh uh Uh that that's that's standard. Now, if we're talking about, you know, putting together some sort of larger job, um the the where it gets different is sometimes what we do is we start putting 6 or 10 ft concrete in so that you have kind of a multiple lane path for bikes and walkers.
>> in is perfect.
>> 4 in is perfect.
>> Yeah. Yes, sir.
>> Yes, sir.
>> It don't look like we need anything major there. We need to reinforce it so it doesn't chip off. I mean, we got brand new stuff over there from 6 and 6.
You can tell the concrete is probably not 2 years old and it's broken all over the place there.
>> So, I've seen in other locations, high-end places where uh expansion joints, they'll they'll change, right? But instead of ripping things out, if it's not that bad they just grind it down to smooth it off to where it eliminates that lift and just kind of give So, is that something also that you could [snorts] consider to where we can as [clears throat] as we all trying to do, save money anywhere we can. So, in other words, if there's an issue we just don't necessarily say, "Well, then this this got to be ripped out and replaced."
Maybe it can be just trimmed. If there is 4 in and it's like something like that, right?
It might be enough in some cases >> Certainly.
>> to just smooth it down.
>> Yeah, absolutely. Um you know, we're going to look at we're going to look at all those scenarios and and I think one of the the the ways just using some sort of spray paint and marking [clears throat] those areas and and you and I go take a look at it and say, "Hey, this is why I think it should be replaced or just >> You can saw cut it, too, right?
>> Yes, sir.
>> Yeah.
>> [clears throat] >> But typically with with with sidewalk, the expansion joints are so close together that you're only removing a 4x4 section or 4x8 section of >> Yeah, it's not big at all.
>> No, sir, not at >> Yeah. If you need anybody to take a look at it, I'm here most of the time. I've got a golf cart to go I can't talk. Golf cart. We can go around the thing.
>> So, I'll make a motion that we ask Taylor to look at it, make an evaluation, and present to us a different um you know, options that we have to rectify the problem.
>> I second.
>> All in favor?
>> Aye.
>> Motion carries.
>> Also, on park maintenance matters, we have a a bid for uh the uh maintenance.
Steven, would you like This is in your packet.
>> Yeah, I know.
>> Yeah, got it.
>> thing >> Good evening. I'm Steven Gillery. I've been living in River Plantation since 2019.
I've been doing landscaping for like 10 years now. So, we put together a proposal for the mud. Um there's two different prices you'll see there. One for 24 currents, one for 21.
You guys are currently at 21 from what I'm told. I think three more currents would benefit greatly. What that is every other week from March through October or actually through November, we would be in your every other week cutting the grass.
Um in the dry like, you know, when it's dry, we would probably get get by with twice a month. But if it doesn't continue to rain like it has been, then the grass is going to grow 4 or 5 inches every week, you know. You If you put it off, then we're just going to have really tall grass, right? So, 24 currents on that, and uh that comes out to be about 6,800 bucks a month.
And then for 21 occurrences, it would be 5,900 bucks a month.
This does include, you know, the mowing, the blowing, the edging of the sidewalks, the edging of the driveways for the the water treatment plants. This also would include anywhere that you have natural vegetation vegetation that's encroaching on the path that is a liability. Somebody driving a car or riding a scooter or what have you is going to take a branch to the face at some point. We would identify those and those would be cut out. That's included in this price as well for the entire length of the trail system. It also would include spraying the uh concrete joints chemically for weeds as well monthly.
Is there any questions on that?
>> Well, one thing that's not in here that we usually they have them doing is they're emptying those dog stations and trash while they're mowing.
>> Okay.
>> see that in your proposal.
>> It was not It's not included. That's a It's relatively small cost that we can include. There would be a slight adjustment, I would think, but I would say it'd probably be less than a thousand dollars a year total cost for that.
>> What about the trash on the >> The doggie stations and any of the trash cans. But just to be sure, would we be responsible for purchasing the bags or is that something you guys supply?
>> We we can buy them.
>> It sounds like a tedious question, but so we manage Town Lake and we do their trash cans, too, right? And so their doggie stations is like a thousand dollars a month in just the material cost for all the dog I know we don't have that many, but >> Yeah, we only have three.
>> Okay, so >> And one trash can.
>> More to come, right?
Um yeah, it'd be great. Um >> I'm okay with this.
>> I'm okay with this purchasing the bag.
>> Yeah.
>> I've got them all lined up already.
>> There's There's a lot of them that are empty.
>> There's a lot of them that are empty.
Oh, really? I know the one on eight.
It's on eight Houston.
No bags in there.
Maybe it would just be easier if we just provide the bags, too. Then you don't have anybody to point a finger at besides us.
>> There's no bags on three, either.
>> Are you Are you talking about the small bags or the trash bags?
>> No, the trash cans are the trash bags are the big trash bags.
Yeah, she's talking about the She's talking about the doggie bags.
Yeah, that's annoying. I understand.
Yeah, that's Yeah, I would think it'd probably be easier if you just allowed us to do that and then y'all wouldn't have to worry about it at all.
>> Okay, I got a question for you. What type of equipment do you have?
>> We have it all.
>> You have Kubota, you have John Deere, I mean you got They use zero turns like we have out there now?
>> Yes, sir. They do. And it's all great equipment.
You know, we operate from Dallas all the way to to Houston.
We do the Highlands just down the road.
We do Chambers Creek and Willis. Those are some key communities that you may be familiar with. But then in Town Lake, Shadow Creek Ranch.
John Deere's, yes. We do have some unique pieces of equipment that would be used on some of these ditches or more sloped areas, right? But yeah, it's going to be your standard 60-in zero turn radius mowers for the most part.
>> Okay.
>> And it would We We would want to do this in one day. But right now it looks like they're out there one to two days.
Usually two days, but we would We would bring it up to where once we start, we're going to finish. Because you know how it goes. Half the course gets cut and then it rains and then two weeks later that that it's 36 in high over here and eight over here, which is not really fair to some of the people that live on those other holes, so But that's that.
I'm happy to answer any questions. I'll stick around after this.
Yes, ma'am.
>> Did y'all provide him with an RFQ?
>> No, we did not.
>> Okay.
>> A request for a bid.
>> The scope of work because >> Oh.
>> Does it not include the 10 to 12 lots that have to be mowed?
Huh?
>> He lives here. He sees what's going on.
>> Well, not everything because there's stuff in the very back that even Alpha didn't know. That that they didn't know.
>> You know, you know we own 10 to 12 lots that have to be mowed.
>> By our lots?
>> Mhm.
>> Okay.
And that's Alpha's doing that now?
>> Mhm.
>> Okay.
>> Where are those lots at?
>> Probably around six. There would be a bunch of them. Not bad.
I guess to number six.
>> Mhm, I know.
>> There's some over there though, huh?
Those any ones with those concrete lots were all buyout lots, right?
>> No, we don't Those don't belong to us.
>> Oh, no.
>> Some of them belong to the CIO.
>> Oh, goodness.
Things to consider, so I mean >> there's one where one street [clears throat] where the CIO owns one of them right next door to us and like >> We love that.
Yeah, and by the way, I'm Stephen Gallery. I have lived here. I live on Augusta number eight just before the pond on the left. Um, we have the cannon in our backyard. So, if you're driving by and you see us out there, please say hi.
>> David, do we need to put this out to bid to do this or can we do it Can we go with a single replacement?
>> That's entirely up to the board.
Um, you know, legally you can you can pick your uh maintenance contractor. Um, but in many cases, um you know, boards like to solicit multiple bids just so they get current market pricing.
Obviously, you have a contractor in place now.
Um, and I know you've solicited bids in the past. So, it's up to the board.
Um And then, obviously, once you do once you if you decide you want to change then then we'd also need to review the contract as well. So >> I think you I think we need to go back out for bids for 60 70 thousand dollars a year. You don't you don't just sign it. I I'm glad it's a 10% reduction from where we are right now.
And that's a positive thing. But I think to keep it square we need to go ahead and get new bids.
>> I think you need a RFQ so that you have apples to apples cuz obviously he's bid it but he doesn't have the whole scope of the work.
>> I agree with that.
>> I think the board needs to make a bid package.
>> Okay.
Um Mark, can you handle that?
>> Mark?
>> Yeah.
>> Mark, I can give you what we've had in the past to AJ. We've got exhibits and everything showing all of the properties.
>> And then Stephen, where'd you go? Yeah, before you leave just give me your contact information as well or I can cuz we'll need to make sure that you give us an update once we get the the scope figured out. In fairness to you as well, right?
>> Yes, sir. Okay. Absolutely.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Anything else on the park?
>> Request construct butterfly garden and related facilities in park.
>> Okay.
>> Now you're up.
>> [laughter] >> Gentlemen, I have a little presentation folder for y'all so y'all can look at it. This is basically some um photographs. This is the area that we are and the photographs are here going through it and stuff but each one of y'all got to have one.
>> Thank you. Good stuff. Um Um Just time.
Apologies and I got the top was on it.
From last week in the dark.
Okay, here is I brought I didn't Again, I didn't know how many or you guys could share cuz the table's probably not big enough for all these. And this is actually on a 20 scale, so it makes it a little easier for you guys to see it.
Um well, smaller than a 10, but So, these are the concepts. These are just photographs that I had picked that we were trying to emulate and concepts, so or walkways and stuff, so here you guys go.
So, this is that first photograph is This is that This is the green that John wanted. It's further down. Uh if you look over here, there's the road coming in. That's that First Street on your left. The Phillips garden is way back over here and it's separated. It's that first green. That's what's left of the green on that first hole. Um so, what John uh this is uh for anybody in the room, um Mr. John Gandy wanted to gift It's come over the the bridge in the front.
You got to pass Phillips, the the the gazebo that's right there. Okay. As you're curving up the First Street T-junction on the left-hand side, it's that green number six, hole number six.
Number six. Yeah, number six green on the on that left, okay?
Yeah. So, it's actually it's further back. John didn't want it to be part of the whole um connected with it. But, what John wanted to do, he wanted to gift his um his wife or he wanted to gift the community.
Um and what so far we have down in in the if you look on the Dale, he's almost about $750,000. He's gifting the community, okay? But he wanted this to be his money spent and he controlled what was happening, but with y'all's permission to use this area. He had the idea of putting the a off-road here, that road that comes in here, there's the golf cart path. It is damaged actually what you guys were talking about damaging. And I was offered to fix that when we were going to do this. This would be actually a It's got nine different parking spaces coming off the main road.
And then we wanted to keep the anybody from trying to drive here on a car. And we wanted to do was we wanted to use [snorts] um these arches where the um golf carts just go through them and people won't get hurt or like that on it. But at the at the same time keep any from kids from trying to drive down the golf cart path and go down there. So this is a deterrent at the same time have something pretty. And this were just These were just samples I took out of the um um off of it. Mine actually fell.
But everything about this uh if whoever knew John and Patricia, they loved roses, they loved butterflies is another concept of what it's going to look like and stuff. But it's it's only a short distance and again I'm sorry this is a very small plan, but this is the main road. This is the first left you come into the neighborhood and it'll be right off the This is a golf cart path.
Um this is actually a telephone pole right there. And then that first house on that That's backed up to it. That's actually Mr. um um Odom. Uh um um he I I've known him since I was a kid.
My grandpa bought Odom trailer trailers from him and all the trailers got fixed up on it. That's Daryl. And so anyway, I he actually met me out there and recognized me and I told him what we were doing and he he was cool with it.
So he was fine with the concept.
>> Where the old restroom used to be down there that they took out?
>> No, no, no. It's up on the up on the >> It's up on the top section. The The one with a restroom used to be that actually floods down there and John didn't want it down there. Plus it's behind all the foliage. You can't see it.
>> Okay, so when you go down that Braxton Bragg, you're going to turn at the into the right.
>> Yeah, it's going to be immediately on the right hand side. It's >> the Braxton Bragg?
>> It's the first straight on when you come up the hill.
>> Right, but there's two Braxton >> left. There's two Braxton so it's in between the two Braxton Braggs.
>> So you come up this road and it's that first left.
>> Well, I'm going to ask him if >> No, it's going to be it's going to be you saying those are on the green now.
>> Because number six >> I just don't >> Yeah, those are back.
>> So Neil started saying all these numbers. We've got to we've got to get out of here with these numbers.
>> Where I live >> It's two streets.
>> It's Terra Point when you come up the hill.
>> I know where Terra is, yeah.
>> Okay.
It's in my street behind the house.
>> Okay. All right, I believe that's Braxton Bragg.
>> That hill >> That's where we're going to be putting some grills.
>> Is it?
>> Like I said, I I saw some stuff surveys on it. So I had to retain walls actually >> [laughter] >> Got you.
>> Well, I said it's going to be on that green so it's going to be elevated.
>> If it's flooded, it's flooded. Maybe in the >> That's right.
>> Because I live in Braxton Bragg and James >> It was It was basically >> There's a lot of things >> 380 yd par four >> Yes, that's right.
>> Basically no more than like about 300 yd up to the water.
>> That's right.
>> What are you doing for drainage?
>> Well, drainage is I mean obviously it's it's on a >> Will that houses behind it?
>> Well, no. We're going to have drainage on it. But it'll have no different than what the the golf course was putting out water for it anyway.
>> But it had concrete on it.
>> No, no. But this is going to be it'll be Well, let me show you guys.
So what we're going to do the the concept is it would be a big but it'd be different. John wanted something unique for him. Um There would be the um the parking lot area on this side will be a wheelchair ramp, uh ADA compliant coming in, and there would be a gate to come into it, and then one uh steps coming off of the golf cart pathway.
There would be two entrances. In the future, John thought of expanding it later, but this was just the initial concept of it. And again, that's where more money would come in again through Jay at John and uh JC. Uh JC John had passed away 2 weeks ago, and he gave me the permission to come and say, "Okay, Chris, go show it to him. I'm happy with the numbers. Just go do the presentation. Obviously, I can't physically go anymore."
>> So, Chris, how much of that is concrete?
>> None of that's concrete. The only thing that's concrete would be the flooring >> The parking I'm sorry.
>> Oh, sorry. Yes, I'm sorry. Yes, the >> So, and that's the thing that's what she's focused on. You said what, nine spaces?
>> There would be nine spaces through this >> this is concrete.
>> And it's also on the back side of that hill, and there's a ditch that comes along the road right here that the water would shed back towards the natural swale.
Okay? And it would come down and then go back down down the road as it would be anyway.
>> [clears throat] >> The only concrete that would be actually in the park area would be in the center where the uh it would be a concrete floor uh of the um the gazebo.
>> spaces are in the park area.
>> They are They would be on the back side of that that green. It's kind of Again, it's kind of hard to show you.
It would be between these trees right here. Here's the road, and those are the trees here, and that's the back of the green. So, it would be this little space right through here. The water shed is this way, and then after you get on this side of the green, the water shed is that way and it towards the water. So, [clears throat] it's a it's a high point. You're going to be shedding >> you done a topography to see where the water sheds to be?
>> I haven't yet. I just was getting concepts cuz John was failing in his >> I'm the one that suggested >> Oh, okay.
But yeah, no, there's I said we're going through I got John's permission on everything uh flowers, colors, everything else like that on the walkway. We have actually a um, it would be a water feature inside it. We're going to convert we were going to convert the, um, the greens or actually the the bunkers into little ponds.
>> And then did he, uh, did he talk about money to maintain it cuz who's responsible for >> Well, that I think that's what JC and he was talking about. I mean, obviously we do their their personal and we maintain their their gardens and stuff over the house. We also go do their mausoleum as well. So, I'm pretty sure JC is he's going to have money allocated for us to maintain it after that.
>> But you don't know.
>> I don't know. I mean, this his big thing was he just >> going to be a big cost.
>> Well, it is. It's going to be cuz we're going to have to come back in, um, you know, yearly and change out the colors, you know, like we do at the house. Uh, we're going to have to change out different things. Now, a lot of stuff in here is going to be I've had success with and again this is butterfly garden, uh, aspect of it. So, there's a lot of plants that are spon- I'm sorry. Am I taking yours?
I got mine here.
>> [laughter] >> Well, I got my I didn't want to take over cuz So, but I mean, the gazebo, the you have, um, different types of plants, cone flowers, uh, coreopsis and stuff on it. Uh, there's all different types.
Again, one of the things that John and love they loved roses, okay? But one of the things we're going to have to do cuz with their deer we're going to come in here and decimate the stuff. So, around the perimeter of it I did have a 6-ft or 8-ft 7-ft tall wrought iron fence like you would have on a golf course, but I know it's >> smaller.
>> One of the concepts John said we could do is either put like a living hedge along it so it's blocking the view of it so it's not taking away, but the fence is important to keep the deer out. If we're going to plant I think the budget on there was like $180,000 with the plant material that's going into this thing. Um, so all different types of species, all different types of stuff that's going to be blooming at different times of the year that's going to attract all the different hummingbirds and butterflies into it. So, um, but you you it's going to be a smorgasbord.
I mean, it's going to The deer are going to say, "Oh, thank you very much." And the certain plants we can plant, there's there's they have a list of stuff from A&M that says deer resistant. But, you know, there's nothing deer proof. I mean, cuz you'll have one deer that will say, "I don't like this." And then other deer will come in there and just rip it apart. I mean, I've seen deer hungry enough in in droughts tear bark off of live oak trees and eat eat um um yaupon. And if anybody knows what yaupon is, it's called Ilex vomitoria.
[clears throat] And it it actually it really induces vomiting. The Indians actually use it as an elixir to to exit their stomachs. So, um >> [clears throat] >> But anyway, that's those walkways that's coming around opposite to the arch. It'd be all ADA compliant where people can come in. John's um at his mausoleum, he had two benches.
They're they're made from um uh granite. Yeah, more yeah, granite.
And they have Gandhi on the back of it.
And there's two spots where we're going to put it facing up the hill from sitting that you're looking at the waterfall. And again, this is just a concept like I saw on the And it I just said I just didn't have anything to to cuz we haven't physically built it yet, but it's um uh things like this we have like an on that hillside facing up we could do something similar simple like this. But again, it's flowers that we annual stuff that we could cut change out and do. Um again, um just the different colors, textures, and bringing the the flowers into the being.
There's another one with the wrought iron fence to keep the fence, you know, that's higher that but but this is kind of a concept of what we were looking at doing. So, you would have the gates would be people could open and close but they'd be on a on a um >> spring >> a spring that would close it so the deer can't push it open. You have to unlatch it and close it, but if someone forgot to close it, the deer could sneak in the middle of the night and eat it and tear the stuff up. Uh the entrances would have like a stone uh I wanted stones so we could put a plaque on the side that said, you know, Ghandi Garden or something like that or or dedicated to John and and Patricia on it.
Here's the idea with the the gazebo uphill and the stream that coming down.
So, this would be and we can have a bridge that would come across that at a certain point. Like this and You guys I'm sorry for I'm sorry for everybody else. Yeah, you have all that stuff.
>> Are there cameras on there?
>> Sam, can >> Is there going to be cameras? I'm just curious cuz there's >> We can put down some I never brought it up and I can >> I would just hate for somebody to destroy it. That's all my name.
>> No, no, you're absolutely right. I mean, we have electricity to the deal and adding cameras and a Wi-Fi out there.
Again, I could talk to JC about it. Like I said, right now we're at like a $750,000 for everything.
John originally says we're going to start the process and then we can do it yearly or something like that. JC, I mean, I have to pass. I'm not sure what money he had allocated just like that.
And she says, "Let's just do it all at once." It It's going to really be JC's decision. She's under the weather right now and she couldn't make it to the meeting. So, again, this was something that >> I just think it's beautiful and I hate for people to some kid to do something >> Well, yeah, somebody come and vandalize it or do something like that to it. Um >> It's just sad that that's the world we >> Yeah. No, you're right. You're right.
You know, it's you know, some kid doing something. So, that's what again, that's why I wanted to put those arches to stop them from going there and doing donuts in the middle of the darn Yeah, cuz I you know, I had redneck buddies back in the '90s who would just they open field, hey, that's an open ticket.
>> So, it was originally this was going to be multi-millions spent on this thing. Is that >> I don't know if it's multi-millions, but I said it's going to be the initial getting this thing started.
It's going to be Right now, the budget and this doesn't include like bronze statues cuz we wanted to do something like this as John and Patricia Ghandi.
And there was a butterfly sculptures. I get I I showed JC this. It could be either sitting sitting, you know, something like that, the two of them together.
I when I first showed John, he's like, "I don't need that stuff. You know, get that crap out of here. This is about Patricia, not me." But JC's like, "No, it's going to be about him, too."
>> Uh >> Uh, another question. Is it going to be open 24/7 or >> Yeah, like this shouldn't I mean I said it's going to be on a spring loaded uh, you know, a gate that you can close. Anybody can come up to it. They can walk the gardens.
>> We have a lot of problems down here with kids going down there and tearing that stuff up.
You facing the property when that when that restroom was down in there >> Mhm. I heard there's a homeless people that were living in there too as well.
>> had the gates broken down there all the time. They were going in there and they tore it up. They tore the restrooms out. They tore the sinks out, the lights out, the doors >> Really?
>> all the time.
>> And right now the church is having a real problem with homeless.
>> Well, yeah. Well, I live at 336. I'm at I live at Stuart Forest. I'm just a hop, skip, and a jump. And every time you go down there in the railroad tracks there was at least two or three people down there which, you know you know, same smile, you know.
>> So >> Uh, Chris, right?
>> Yes, sir.
>> Okay.
Uh, so is the mud expected to provide the maintenance going forward after >> Again, I don't think so, but I I we never got to that point. John was just more interested in getting the concept down and him approving it and then giving a price of what it was going to cost.
>> Cost.
>> I'm assuming he was and again, you know, assumptions lead to other things. But, um, from what I understand I thought JC and them were going to cover that. I'm not sure Honestly, I haven't talked to JC since the funeral. So, these are also again concerns I know the board would have because y'all going to be gifted something >> That's a big >> and then it's going to uh, later on it's going to be something that has to be maintained.
>> Yes.
>> So, I mean again, it's going to have a it's going to have ponds and waterfalls and a a dry stream bed. You're going to have uh, paver walkways that are going to come through there. Uh, you're going to have a gazebo. You're going to have lighting. You're going to have obviously we might have like I said the lady said we might have to put some uh, security cameras out there and stuff. Um, this [clears throat] will at least help uh, him with the what at least one of the holes on the irrigation system.
>> [laughter] >> Part of it.
>> Well, you may also want to include, you know, like a 5 or 10 year, you know, maintenance.
>> Yeah.
>> I mean >> Yeah. Well, I'm pretty sure JC she wants us to take care of it because like I said we have very specific plans we're dealing with. and I'm going to use also a lot of Texas local stuff that I know that will help out. I also know in Moss Wood or somewhere in the back here the bee ladies live through here somewhere and they have some hives and stuff like that and I know this would be actually because they do local honey. And they the bees I know are all through RP and stuff so this would be a great you know again.
John wanted to give back he wanted to give this to the community he's been here for ages. At is Appomattox in that corner he's he built that new house but the other house was house give it a jump right across the road from it.
He but he wanted when people came in they could see it. He he didn't want I know that the older group had said that they weren't really wanting to do it here. I know that's what he wanted I'm just I'm um speaking on his behalf and trying to make his wish you know his dying wish down in the community >> you're not open to any alternative >> I'm not saying I'm not it's not me that has to be convinced it's going to be through JC. I know I wanted to get with you and go see it but I with the the rain coming in this week and I'm doing a lot of concrete work and I have a small window so >> is that would benefit us more if it's up on like the number eight or number nine rather.
>> I know you and I talked about that and again I know >> Yeah near the pool.
>> But I'm not sure if John was >> [clears throat] >> Well you have to say >> John is it's like I'm not worried about who who it's benefiting it's going to he wanted to benefit him.
>> Well yeah >> And at the same time I think >> same way we want to be able to do it.
>> I know I mean yeah you you guys are getting [laughter] gifted a three quarters of a million dollar you know landscape I mean who said no. It's just like I said I know he was very adamant about this spot he wanted when people came through the neighborhood everybody coming through the front will see it.
And I think back there but cuz I've gone I played golf on y'alls course before so I it's it's further back and everyone that takes a left going to the back of the neighborhood will never see it if Besides, on going straight towards the golf the golf uh to the uh golf the the court uh clubhouse.
>> Well, I think if we were to get around, they wouldn't know it.
>> Oh, I think you could see it.
>> Huh?
>> I think you'll be able to see it no matter where it is.
>> How many acres will take that?
>> You would be You would be able to see this from Stonewall Jackson even.
>> Listen, I I I Listen, I'm I'll build it wherever JC tells me to build it. And whatever the you gentlemen allow us to build it, okay? Um again, this is a gift giving back to the community and and it's nothing There's no money coming out of the community, there's no money coming out of the board, and there's no you know, anything. It's just something John Gandy wanted to do before he died. And of course, he he he passed before this could come to fruition. So, one of the last things he told me when my dad and I sat down with him, he says, "Okay, Chris, go sell it to them and explain what we want to do." And that's the literally the last words I heard from him, and then a week later, he was passed.
>> You did a good job.
>> Well, I tried.
>> The only thing we don't We're still missing two things. The maintenance in perpetuity, and we the location.
>> Yeah. Well, the location is again y'all's permission. Uh again, you guys will have to vote on that part of it.
And again, uh it's not going to be tonight. And I just But I just wanted to put it on the table and whoever was in the room could hear what we were doing.
Um if anybody doesn't know me, I'm I'm actually a sixth generation horticulturist. My dad and grandpa uh came from England uh to Conroe area.
My grandpa has spent a lot of time in RP. I mean, a lot of the plants that are uh that are here, he probably built planted back in the '70s. I can go up and down either streets and see a bunch of camellias or azaleas or azaleas.
Um there's actually one azalea that he discovered. I forget the gentleman's name. I was 10 at the time, so forgive me. Um but there was a gentleman who worked in the oil fields in Louisiana. They had bought whatever company it was, Exxon or whoever it was, bought out a um an old plantation home in Louisiana. The house had burned down, but the azaleas around the perimeter of it were still alive.
And he didn't have the heart to throw them away, so he had paid someone to dig them up and transport them from Louisiana back to Rosedown Plantation.
Didn't know what he was doing and he found in the yellow pages my grandfather, my dad. They came out and met him. This is springtime and the plants had happened to be blooming at that time frame.
And >> [clears throat] >> this plant um it's a George Tabor azalea.
And the George Tabor is if anyone knows about azaleas, it's a um a pink with a white kind of a cotton candy kind of look to it.
>> Oh, I got some in my backyard.
>> Yes, sir. And uh but it's got a pink throat to the center of it and stuff.
>> It came from Louisiana?
>> I don't know. No, it didn't come from Louisiana.
>> No, no, no. But actually what what was interesting about it was >> Where did I get this?
>> What was interesting about it is a regular um George Tabor. This actually has got a variegation in it. That's a George Tabor. Okay? Just like I can see I can see this. You can see the George Tabors.
Okay, so this one limb on this George Tabor happened to have no pink at all in it. It had yellow in the center of it.
And uh Grandpop and Dad was able to find it and they propagated it. And they got about four different blues and blossoms on it.
And uh or the four and this is what it looks like now.
So it's got a yellow throat to it with a cotton candy background with white and stuff on it. It's unique only to that species and the gentleman very soon after uh when he Grandpop explained the uniqueness of it and the mutation for it from that to this, uh the guy over over-fertilized it and killed it.
So it's no longer here. And this is the only one I've got about 60 of these things left and actually we were going to put them in part of the garden to again give back something like Grandfather discovered in RP and give back to it. He named it St. David cuz my little brother was born that same year in 1984.
Uh Not that my brother is a saint in any shape, matter, or form.
But actually I wanted to rename it after Jeffrey, my grandfather. So but anyway, these are these are the types of plants that are going into it. Again, I apologize This is about about an acre and a quarter, but Mr. Gandy again in the future would like to expand it to about two and a bit acres.
So >> Do you know Montgomery County reason they have to have their drainage manual?
Because I don't know how they would consider this on a redesign for that impervious cover where you would be required to do detention. And I'm just throwing that out as a caveat as information.
>> No, no, I appreciate that cuz again, I just came up with the concept >> one way or the other, but with the area that we're in and the flooding prone >> Oh, absolutely.
>> nature of it, you would have to discuss with Montgomery County to make sure they didn't see all this impervious cover then flag.
>> Okay.
>> Cuz you're going to get a permit for this.
>> Oh, yeah, we're going to have to get permits, but we have to get y'all's permission before >> Right.
>> To get and to get our permission, there's no way we can do it without having some kind of maintenance in effect.
>> No, I I [clears throat] >> I can't speak for the board I hear.
>> No, I agree with y'all guys. Like I said, I I we never got that far. Again, John passed before we could even talk about that part of it. So again, I get with I get with JC. Again, it's their money, their funny, their their money, their funds, the way that they want to do it. And again, this was just let's say gifting back to the community on the behalf of the Gandys.
>> But I would extend that offer to let you know the show you the alternative sites cuz I'm I honestly think the one I'm talking about would be better than where you're talking cuz when it floods, you're not going to have more than a couple of acres that don't get wet down there.
>> So um my recommendation is is that we have a committee and it could be Tom and myself and then we get with you, we go there, we walk it, we get all the other additional information that we need, and then just it's this isn't going to happen overnight.
>> no. I I totally get it.
>> Yeah, right, right, right. Uh so, we need to know exactly where you're talking about and then if if it's uh not a negotiable thing for location, then that might be a no-starter for us. I don't know. And we we we do have to consider what's best for the not only the park, but for the community because that property originally was there for mitigating floods anyway. And so, we start doing more I'm I'm not I'm not trying to shoot it down. Just saying these are things we have to consider, right? Concrete and all these other infrastructure is beautiful. It's beautiful. Don't get me wrong. But but we have to be cons- uh you to consider what happens if anything different. Does the water Does it get diverted onto somebody else's property that has never flooded before?
So, that's what we'll have to look at.
>> You're Again, it's a footprint and it's only this area. Obviously, the this is an incumbent. This is existing. And then the You can see where we kind of extended it and then stopped at that waterfall we'd go somewhere back in here.
But you would have the flower beds I mean, if I remember correctly, I think absorption rate into grass is about 50% or so and you have about a 50% runoff.
Flower beds, depending if they're mulched correctly, concrete's got a 95% shed rate, if I remember correctly.
So, 1% soaks into it. I mean, 5% folks soaks into it and 95 runs off. So, it's it's like the equivalent of a an acre of vegetated soil compared to you know, that small section. So, you know, it's you're going to have some runoff on it.
You're already having runoff now. It is sandy soil cuz it it was maintained as a golf course. You're going to have absorption. We have retaining walls cuz this is This back section is about 4-ft taller. The side is about 3-ft and it tapers downhill that direction. So, it was kind of pitched so where the balls came in and landed into the deal like this. Part of it I wanted to level off, but I also like the topography of this cuz the bunker this bunker is higher.
This bunker is lower and then the concept of bringing that stream bed into it. Uh I've done it before. I've had a gentleman we did some um Mr. um Ralph Cartwright, and we did his backyard. And this is a a video of his backyard that we did with the dry stream beds. And uh so uh his he had 11 acres and we we I think we uh landscaped about 4 and 1/2 of his 11 acres.
>> Pretty good.
>> So it was uh it was a big job and uh again the bridge is coming off the top of it. And it's we don't have to do exactly what we did for for Ralph, but we can do something and again it's got to be ADA inch compliant. It's got to be carefully done because my dad was in a wheelchair, John was in a wheelchair, and we got to Yeah, we got elderly people that would want to enjoy it and and the the concept of it is to allow everyone to get up into it and and enjoy it.
>> Can I interrupt this real >> No, go ahead.
>> Can you tell me what you need?
>> Is that okay?
>> Yeah, you know that's fine.
>> Yeah, I think you guys need an extra plan or you guys are all right. What do you want me to leave you? The packages here also again these are just drawings.
I'll leave you one more plan just in case. I brought These are all the >> You got to sign it.
>> They're all identical. Yeah.
>> Thank you, sir.
>> All right, operators report.
>> All right.
>> I shall have a copy of your report for April 2026.
>> You're welcome, sir.
>> Connections 976 with 35 vacancies, revenues totaling 17,000 $741.42.
Built consumption 8,217,000.
Below are your pump age. We are 93% accounted for this uh that month with four leaks repaired.
We also collected our six-pack geological samples, all came back good.
Under that we have our wastewater treatment plant numbers, everything is working within parameters, no excursions or breaches. We got a little bit over 2 inches of rain.
And the plant operated uh 49% of its permitted capacity.
We used amount a little over 5 million.
Revenues totaling $1,073.10.
Below that, we have your age receivables and your consumption chart.
Next page, we have production accountability report, 93% for the month, 93% for 12-month average, and your two charts reflecting those numbers.
And final page, we have your DMR that was submitted to the state. Again, right hand column, zero surcharges to report.
Everything is in compliance.
And that's all I have, unless you have any questions.
>> I have a question about this.
>> Yes, sir.
>> It's in the bill.
>> Mhm.
>> I mean, I didn't approve this. Where did this Where did this come from?
>> That was That's part of your storm water quality natural plant.
>> Okay.
>> Yes, it's a requirement.
>> It's a It's a requirement for the MS4.
>> Yeah, it came in today.
>> She got paperless.
>> Any Any questions for the uh operator?
>> [snorts] [clears throat] >> No ma'am.
Okay, wait.
We have a motion to accept the operator's report.
>> I'll second.
>> I'll second.
>> All in favor?
>> Aye.
>> Motion carried.
Okay, annual critical load submission.
Davis?
>> Sure.
Um so, state law requires CenterPoint and the other transmission distribution utilities to maintain a critical load list. This is a priority power restoration list.
Uh we put this on your agenda annually.
Um MOC has been doing these filings, um and just want to confirm with Mario that um that they're going to continue to take care of it this year. So.
>> That's it?
>> That's that's it. No no vote needed and nothing along those lines. Just want to make sure it it we confirm that it's been done. So.
>> Okay.
Engineers report.
>> All right guys, um, hopefully you have a report from last meeting. I apologize. I walked out of my office this morning and forgot my reports.
Um, I think I was able to get one to Doug and he was not here. If you have one from the last meeting, it hasn't changed.
Um, it's a pretty straightforward report. Nothing really to approve on it.
So, we'll go through it quickly. Um, nothing new on the wastewater treatment discharge permit. The uh, water plant number one MOC is coordinating with the contractor to plug that well.
Um, we will be submitting the risk and resiliency uh, assessment as of June 2026 is when it's due. This is a standard uh, required by the EPA.
For [clears throat] design projects, the East Ditch FEMA work construction is underway and continues. No pay application this month.
For the wastewater treatment plant, uh, they're still working on addressing the punch list. No pay application this month to close that project out.
Moving on to the district projects, the Moswood Ditch rehabilitation, so that actually is now substantially complete for the clearing part of the contract.
The they're currently [clears throat] working on setting that new retaining wall and building the side slope for the emergency repair for sinkholes in the backyard along Moswood.
For Storm Sewer phase two, that rehab work has begun. Sand Cherry Sewer rehab phase three, that construction is underway as well.
Uh, the only other thing to report on is at the wastewater treatment plant, there is a unit called the RBC. Um, it's for aeration. It's got a metal housing over the top of it. The last windstorm blew off a portion of it. Um, it was originally for the old plant. It's uh, there's two of them. You do have a redundancy, so the plant's still operating.
Um, they this was all put in prior to putting in the secondary plant. So, the way Y'alls plant operates, it's kind of two separate plants. Um I had Mario, they were doing their testing anyway, so I had them pull samples from different areas to see if it's required to have removed the ammonia from the system. Um I'm hoping that the design or the uh the [clears throat] makeup, the chemical makeup of the waste water is such that we can actually take those offline and we don't have to to fix it. So, we're waiting for those tests to be run. Um but we're monitoring it closely. You guys are still in compliance, no issues.
To do any immediate repair, like I said, you it's a redundant system. And then after you get those, y'all are new on the board, y'all split the waste water plant with East Plantation. Um it's approximately a 41 59% split.
Um that is all I have.
>> So, the East ditch each East ditch maintenance, are they cleaning that out or no? Cuz it doesn't look good.
>> Are they cleaning it out or are they waiting till this >> So, so we paused the clean outs while they were doing all the construction work.
>> You're going to wait till it's complete?
>> Correct. Yes. Yes. If there's any bad areas or something that we need to get them out in an emergency, I I would actually just make the contractor the guy that'd be part of their clean up, so I can have them run through it and kind of clean it out.
>> One issue with my dump though.
>> Certainly.
>> So, on Charleston, uh and you know, and the road going into Mosswood, >> Mhm.
>> there's a lot of erosion from the ditch right there. It's I mean it's it's creeping up to the road.
>> Are you talking about the sinkhole that >> right there next to the >> On [clears throat] the Mosswood and >> Right.
>> to the bridge. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
>> Is that the one Is it Is that Is that not us?
>> that's Stewart's Creek. That's actually uh Montgomery County. Um there's been in the works for a FEMA grant for that as well uh for a long time because that also plays into the major washout that's further back in Mosswood where it's pretty much taken out a whole street.
>> I saw that.
>> Keep me updated on that. I just went to the Marine Corps management for Homeland Security this week because they have the green >> Okay.
>> and the time starting work on the like what reason for going to the church side of the road side if they had any medication for it.
RP has the same thing for the society, but RP section has Mosswood has both of them.
But, they only have plans right now according to what I was told to do the big cliff back there behind those two or three houses, and the RP's washout and the Mosswood one are not currently in the program.
But, they're doing to agree with that grant now. They didn't agree to anyway.
>> I hope they extend the work, but I'll get in contact with them. If you Did you pick up any business cards by chance?
Okay.
>> I may get with somebody and they were saying that the We need to get with Charlie again, but we've talked to Charlie about 17 times.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, they didn't we get Just so you know, the grant is in place, and they're getting ready to start work on it.
>> Okay.
>> That RP washout seem like it's getting worse, too.
>> The The one on Shields?
>> The one by the you know, the gazebo side.
>> Yeah, that's on RP.
>> That's not in the work inside of the park.
>> Okay.
Oh, yes. You're talking about on when it goes under the bridge right there.
>> When you got When you come in the neighborhood, it's too far back.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> That's not part of the study work.
I think we're all in agreement with the attorney.
>> I don't know. I'll walk in there.
>> Well, this one >> I imagine >> Is this bigger than a week's worth of rain?
Anything long for it to sink that road, man.
It's It's not It's there.
>> I don't I don't disagree, but you're getting into a federal jurisdiction.
>> No, I agree. No, I understand.
I didn't know what the >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, no, we've we've been keeping it on the radar for for a long time. Um Yeah, that's a It's a Precinct 2 in Montgomery County issue that we keep reminding them of. I mean, you just look at the back where that road is literally falling in. There's a house just about to fall in and they're just now getting to it.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah, it's it's it's a mess.
>> It's probably two or three houses I think it'll be hopefully saved in this deal but but the other two I think you know, it's kind of crazy trying to protect the road coming into here or the ones over there.
So, that's 1,500 2,000 people that are taking care of.
>> Yeah.
>> But they But I'm glad to see them fix some of them anyway.
>> I'll reach out to my my contacts at FEMA and stuff and see if I can't get a better understanding of of what what they're actually doing.
>> I don't know if they were 100% sure but they were pretty sure that those two places were not going to be addressed.
>> Okay.
You have nothing to present to approve?
>> No, sir.
>> We have a motion to accept the >> So, moved to accept the engineer's report.
>> Second.
>> All in favor?
>> Aye.
>> Carried.
Next item is cybersecurity and AI training.
It is >> Um the legislature has decided uh you guys need to complete uh cybersecurity and AI training and uh we'll send you an email um with some information on on how to complete it. It's a fairly straightforward uh video uh that you can watch that that accomplishes or satisfies both requirements. And then I'll have a certificate for everybody to sign um and then we'll we'll make a filing with the state to let everyone know that it's been completed. So, >> What's our deadline?
>> look out for that email in the next few days.
>> What's our deadline on that?
>> Uh August 1st.
>> Okay, so no action today?
>> No action.
>> All right. Violation of district rule district rules public hearing for violation of district rules and damage to district property assessment of penalties.
Paul >> Yes, sir. So, we have a violation tonight for the board to consider. And uh Ms. Sanders is here for that and so my job is to present to you the situation and then the board gets to discuss it. Normally, what happens is is you would take evidence in the open forum and then we would the board would discuss it in executive session and then you can't make decisions in there, but then we would come back to an open session and and and uh decide what you might want to do about it if anything. And so, what I'll tell the board is the violation it's it's kind of continuum of prior violations of posting of signs within um Charleston Park. Charleston Park is is the district's park. You spent a lot of money buying it. Uh you spent a lot of money maintaining it. Um you heard comments from the public tonight about people that continue to deface the park and it's really the board's um kind of job to steward the park and to decide the quality of the park that will be there for the community. Um Ms. Sanders is there. I believe the violations are related to uh her bringing additional signs out into the park. I think the date was April 22nd.
Um >> in the park?
>> I was thinking it was for >> I didn't know I had an additional garage sale.
What are you talking >> So, >> signs >> So, there were additional signs um I'm I'm I'm addressing the board at this time, ma'am. And so, uh the board issued a a a notice of violation to Ms. Sanders for that. It was set for hearing last Monday. Obviously, due to the technical problems we're hearing it tonight. And so, um I believe uh Ms. Sanders is here. She can talk about it. I believe one of the witnesses is there tonight who can also provide you evidence. I also have documents that I can share on my screen. But I will tell you she it's a it's related to I believe the wearing of sandwich board signs in the park. Which I don't believe is an appropriate thing to do under the rules. But again, it's up to the board to decide how you want to enforce this.
So with that I'll turn it over to the board and if you want to conduct some discussion with Ms. Sanders and I think Julie Gilmore was the primary witness or I'll call complainant tonight and I believe she is there. I don't see her on the screen, but I do believe she's there tonight. So board, I'll turn it over to you and I'm here I'm just here to help steward this process and I can share on my screen anything you might want to see. But with that I'll turn it over to the board.
>> So Julie, you've seen this?
>> Mhm.
>> Can you can you tell us about it, please?
>> So someone posted on Facebook and next door that someone was standing down in the park that somebody was standing down in the park wearing a sign and they posted a picture of it. I drove down to Phillips Gazebo, Phillips Park. Parked there, saw somebody across the street on the park and you'll notice I have an exhibit of where she where it was wearing the sandwich board sign. Clearly from the tree survey, she was on park property. If you look at the tree survey, it's very um definitive of where the boundaries are.
She was at least 5 to 6 ft inside the park.
Um and that's it. I took a picture. Paul has the pictures and the tree the tree survey showing where our property line is.
>> Okay.
>> And did you wear a sandwich board sign on the >> I am appearing tonight under a full reservation of my legal rights. It is absolutely disgraceful that this board and your attorneys would weaponize thousands of dollars of our neighborhood's tax funder taxpayer funds just to put a resident through a quarter million dollar legal circus over a First Amendment right.
That Um no matter where it was, baby, it's a First Amendment right. Um to make matters worse, immediately after I posted a fact-based document-backed community update to our neighbors, my local Nextdoor account was taken off by one of the moderators from this I know, you don't know. It's all right. It's all right. It was abruptly shut down by a biased review team controlled by members of this very ex leadership. I'm here to offer this board one final opportunity to mitigate its own mounting liability.
As of today, I have established a hard alibi for the 10:50 a.m. incident proving the assault allegation was a complete fabrication.
I have also identified a documented pattern of retaliatory litigation in this community such as case 21-11-15275 which demonstrates that this district uses lawsuits as an intentional intentional weapon of attrition.
I'm calling for an immediate dismissal of the $5,000 fine and the $250,000 lawsuit.
If you are unwilling to dismiss these meritless claims tonight, I demand an administrative stay of all penalties until the new board members Hernandez and Porch are fully seated and can review the internal communications regarding this entire matter.
Be clear, whether you drop this tonight or not, my claims for First Amendment retaliation and malicious prosecution have already accrued.
However, if you refuse to dismiss or stay these proceedings tonight, I am moving forward today, May 18th, with a compulsory counterclaim seeking $2 million in punitive damages against the district and individual board members in their personal capacities.
This is your single chance to stop the bleeding of taxpayer funds, my money, before their money, all their money right here, wasted on me talking and you talking about anything to me, literally. Against the district and individual board members in their personal capacity, this is your single chance to stop the bleeding of taxpayer funds before the new board takes completely over.
>> Are you Are you denying that >> We can go You can talk to me about it in court.
>> You Are you refusing to answer any questions?
>> Yes, I'm refusing.
>> You're refusing to >> Cuz we have We have litigations going on with all kinds of things going on right now. I'm not going to say anything.
Okay? You can bring it up to the judge.
I do not trust talking to you.
Okay? What you're talking about here is my First Amendment rights and we can go all the way to court with it.
>> talking, but you say you're not going to talk.
>> Well, you're the one that had me come up there and that's exactly what I said.
>> not going to answer any questions?
>> You know, no.
No.
>> So, you're not >> No, this is a new thing and I guess I'll consult with my attorney over that.
>> Here's your chance >> Oh, I don't know if your attorney knows what an anti-SLAPP lawsuit is.
>> This is your chance to either confirm or deny that you wore a suit >> I'm not talking to you about that because that You can talk to about my my SLAPP lawsuit, okay? You can enjoy that.
I don't know if your attorney knows what that is.
Do you know what a anti-SLAPP SLAPP lawsuit is?
Do you know what a civil rights attorney is?
>> Yep.
>> Okay, good.
>> Jamie?
>> Is there a cap on how much someone can sue you for cuz I believe y'all have a cap.
>> Who is this person speaking? Does she belong to the board?
>> She's the president of >> She's the president of what?
>> Of the COA. I don't know what that is.
But I'm also a homeowner.
>> You're not answering any >> Well, you didn't answer any questions the last time. Maybe you can ask that question next time we're in the same room going >> Okay. If you're not going to answer any questions, then we'll just we'll make a judgment based on what you said.
>> You can.
>> Paul, do you have anything else?
>> No, no. I think everything you're doing is proper. Um you've not subjected yourselves to any liability. You're enforcing your rules. You need to do so in an equal and uniform matter. Uh manner. That's why we do this. Um so, no. I think that my recommendation is to discuss it in executive session.
>> Do you have any uh knowledge of some $250,000 >> I can show it to you. The citation from their board.
You sued me for $250,000.
Do you not know that?
>> That did not happen, board. Again, I would recommend that we talk about this in executive session. That Ms. Sanders is not a lawyer and doesn't understand any legal principles at all, obviously.
>> I understand that that happened.
>> her for two You have not sued her for $250,000. The Texas Rules of Civil Procedure require you to make a jurisdictional allegation of a maximum amount of damages.
And it's based on the jurisdiction in the county courts versus district courts. That's the paragraph she's referring to.
And so, I it it it's clear she's not consulted with an actual attorney or he would have explained that to her.
>> to send send me this this falsification.
He sent thousands of dollars on their >> not going to answer any questions, we're going to uh move on to executive session. And we will come back and we will uh after that we will make any judgments >> Anybody that wishes to stay, votes will be taken after the executive session.
>> All right. We're back in uh general session and uh I'm going to make a motion in the case of Ms. Sanders that we assess the $5,000 fine to the water bill of the homeowner.
And add the new violation [clears throat] that was discussed in the open session to the existing lawsuit.
Do I have a second?
>> I second.
>> All in favor?
>> Aye.
>> The same.
>> Stay.
>> Motion >> carries.
Uh one other item uh it was discussed that um the um it's un- that someone said it was unfair that the um uh Moss Wood residents have to pay uh extra to um to use the the pool.
The reason for that is because the um the homeowners association River Plantation Homeowners Association dues go to the maintenance of that pool.
And without Moss Wood paying anything, they would be have uh that would be unfair to the River Plantation.
>> Nelson, they put the lifeguards in.
>> Yeah, so there's lifeguards, there's maintenance, there's all kind of things.
As far as the acquiring the pool, yes, that was uh that was acquired with with bond money that was uh assessed to the whole mud district, which includes Moss Wood, but the pool itself, the maintenance, and the uh and there was extensive maintenance getting it up up up to uh standard quite extensive. It was dormant for quite a few years, so it needed a lot of work. And there's yearly maintenance for any pool that you know we have to do that.
So, with that, I think we are we're finished.
>> And then we can leave.
>> Yep, I got a motion.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Is there a second fine for uh Mia?
>> There is not. It's it's There's a um I'll just leave it at that.
>> Okay.
>> [snorts] >> I think that's it. We adjourn.
>> I second.
>> All in favor of adjourning?
>> Aye.
>> Aye.
>> Meeting adjourned.
Thank you for uh >> Thank you.
>> Thank you, guys.
>> I'm going to
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