MORNING SPRING:ACCORD VS APC IN OBOKUN: DEFECTIONS, ALLIANCES AND THE COUNTDOWN TO 2026

Ajouté : 2026-05-30

[00:00:00]winners are not the candidates are not the consensus candidate. The greatest winners are the other aspirants you know that decided to shelf their own ambition to allow supremacy of the party. These are the greatest winners and the party does not take it for granted at all and this is why our court has been able to manage his affairs >> but that's what some persons call imposition that you know well you talk about patri supremacy some will say is imposition because some person's ambition are being while you say he's being chef some will say maybe they have been killed because next four years he might not be in that space again no they are not being killed now because one person will always sit on his seat you know a seat that about 20 people are joling for to just sit on that seat and eventually it is only one person and it is normal you know if I'm not allowed to sit on that seat I can get angry you know that's why I said they are the greatest winners because eventually it is only one person so it is not imposition for them to of course there will be grieviances you know but for leaders of the party to talk to them and to listen this make them the greatest winner so it's not imposition they all agree together even though like I said there are grievances and all these grievances have been resolved compared to what is happening opposition party.

[00:01:15]You will not see that in our we have been able to manage ours effectively.

[00:01:19]>> You think so?

[00:01:20]>> Absolutely.

[00:01:21]>> But senatorial ambition at your corridor um you know um you're from Eg.

[00:01:29]>> Yes. And so when we said there are supporters, okay, we learned it was the former subber I mean chairman who got the senator ticket of your party IBK and um you know serving commissioner has the same ambition >> and after IBK was declared there were protest there were agitations it was even taken we understand it was taken to the palace of the and I was wondering what do you want Astro do on this. Many they didn't trust the process of handling issues. They took it to the palace. That's a concern.

[00:02:08]>> Well, uh let me let me tell you this.

[00:02:10]>> But you know that's true.

[00:02:11]>> Well, I I didn't I didn't I only saw I saw the video of where some of our leaders went to the palace reporting opposition. It was not about our own political party. It was not about the one I saw uh because there were security issues. So they had to lead a protest to the palace you know to let the palace be aware of what is happening in the land you know removing face caps from people because they are wearing yellow caps you know you know because they aligning with the governor aligning with the governor of the people you know that was what they went to the palace to go and report people are still agitated >> now like I said there will always be grieviances you know how many of us are in this studio and we only have one seat it is normal it is normal but eventually look at there will always be healing processes there will always be issues that will always be resolved but you can't compare it with what is happening opposition party so like I said in this studio just one seat for one person even my sister here will not be happy initially but over time we'll have to manage our differences and eventually that is what that party is doing and that is what we've done >> all right governor deola dele's movement into the accord party totally especially in the minds of people totally altered of your politics It was an unexpected you know turn of events but let's talk about the party structure. Would you say it is a stabilized party structure that the accord has or the reliance is on the PDP structure in the state?

[00:03:38]>> Now um accord you know the circumstances that left made us to move to accord because there were divisions in our party in PDP at the national level and when there are divisions you don't even know where the pendulum to swing. So it is it will be suicidal for you to say you want to contest on that platform and eventually you win and uh Supreme Court have to tell you that the party at which you you contested on is not valid. So the governor had to make the decision.

[00:04:04]You know there were time there were incination maybe he was going to go to the major political another major political party which was the APC. But the governor decided to prove himself you know that he he has worked for what the people believed in and he moved into accord. Now the whole structure of PDP in state are working for the governor.

[00:04:23]>> The whole structure of PDP the people even beyond the structure of PDP in Ocean State the people in Ocean State you agree with me go to the streets. So accord is a political party that uh that have the citizens of forun state even some people are not carrying members of accord but they love the governor so they're going to vote accord so accord is a stabilized party there are no issues at all and we are doing fine >> is the PDP not going to have a governorship candidate in the state >> have you seen one >> are you going to have >> you seen one there there's no there's not going to be any >> all right let's talk about uh your ambition You want to run again. You're running again actually for the third time.

[00:05:07]>> Mhm.

[00:05:08]>> What's what's the catch actually? Why should people um see trust to you? Well, some might talk about maybe a ranking person, but what's really the catch really beyond the cliche, you know, of my people want me, oh, it's good for my people. What's really the catch for you?

[00:05:27]Okay. Now let me start with u the constitutional role. Of course you agree with me that the constitution allows legislators parliamentarians to return as many times as possible. Yeah.

[00:05:40]>> Uh because I want to believe uh the writers of the constitution allow this so that we can have a stability in our institutions. So regardless you know um every legisl can return compared to the executive position which is only two terms. Now that's number one. Then number two um a constituency that has a ranking member has opportunities because of experience relationship with people with MDAs you know that means you can influence you know some um good things maybe I should call it dividends of democracy to your constituency that's number two then number three as long as we have legislators uh that are not in quotes that are not bad and are doing well for the people the people will always want such a legislator to return to continue to do good the good work that they have been doing. If actually you return, you will be one of the few um ranking members. I mean by virtue of your that would be a third time you know um the speaker honorable came as a first right >> honorable came as um a first time and he emerge >> eventually he's returned as well definitely maybe you will have that ambition that will be your third time will you be having an ambition of the leadership >> you see my return to the assembly is not about the leadership of the house of assembly is more of stability >> will you be having that ambition that's my I It's not how would I we have a speaker already and he's going to return a second time.

[00:07:10]>> So you wouldn't dare v to be a speaker.

[00:07:13]>> You see now you know the history of um even how the speaker emerged in the first place.

[00:07:18]>> You see our party a party which were previously PDP we believe in the leadership of the party.

[00:07:25]>> So whatever direction the party swings that is what we're going to go. So the present speaker is returning again the second time to be the speaker of the office. that will be by the call of the people because the way >> by the call of the legislators >> no I mean he it will first be um voted for before he >> absolutely yes I don't want you to sound like he's afraction >> he will I wish him all the best but my point here is still talking about that side um your former well maybe still honorable care you be together >> at some we were yes >> we you were yeah in the PDP together at some point then you know he jumped to the other side you were still there um it was then this is still >> of course my brother from foroku and you are from as well you'll be running to get the best for people at the state constituency you will be doing that and you man has got it from your own party.

[00:08:39]Charity start at home. Will your loyalty not be divided on this matter?

[00:08:44]>> Absolutely. It will not be divided.

[00:08:47]>> Now, you'll be supporting.

[00:08:51]>> Okay. Now, I I'm trying to look for an example to give you. There's a proverb that Well, what when you look at what do you want to benefit? Look at what your people are going to benefit.

[00:09:08]>> Now, take for instance, look at what the governor is doing in state constituency.

[00:09:12]Now, I represent my people and we were able to influence major road constructions into the constituency.

[00:09:20]Now, it is more of the governor that we have at this end of affair, you know.

[00:09:24]So, we'll be able to influence to our constituency. Now if the legislative harm the federal constituency shifts to federal constituency what is what what rightfully belongs took will not be denied them because the person who is our flag bearer our candidate barbc also understand that is going to represent two local government so what belongs to bo will not be denied them so it's not a function of who is coming from my compound it's a function of who is representing me will I be denied when >> your king's man is there you tend to gain Oh, >> how >> has it not benefited you since he has been there?

[00:10:00]>> Okay, tell us what we've had.

[00:10:02]>> You are the one from there. Tell me.

[00:10:03]>> Yeah, this is what I'm telling you. Now, what we've had in the last three years.

[00:10:06]Now, let me tell you what five times.

[00:10:08]>> Now, let me tell you what we've had in the last three or four years that the governor has been the governor of this state is infrastructural development.

[00:10:16]>> Now, well, I find it very difficult to try to pinpoint. Of course, legislator do not build roads anyway. for the influence influence. I'm aware that the the present representative in the federal constituency was able to influence a road construction in which is fine.

[00:10:32]>> I'm not against that. You understand?

[00:10:34]But I think we should have more. Let me give you an example of honorable Salam.

[00:10:38]>> I think he was here in your studio.

[00:10:40]>> He's also in the second town in the house of representatives. Now sometimes some people say there are road construction in they doing this. But I've come to discover not everything was built by the governor.

[00:10:52]Many or some of these roles were influenced by their representative in the national assembly including senator woman honorable. Now I've just been able to mention just one role in that speaks a lot. You rather you rather show an example of good representation >> from the man representing the E4 that's your own man who has been representing you for like 20 years.

[00:11:19]>> Yeah. Now you see I I'm a realist. I speak to what I can see.

[00:11:23]>> I just spoke about road construction. I can when I go move to bed, I can count 1 2 3 4 5 different road construction influenced. It was not done by but it was influenced by him.

[00:11:35]>> So that's good representation for you.

[00:11:37]>> That's good because you are bringing represents that.

[00:11:39]>> Yes.

[00:11:41]>> Of course. What how many roads concern I mentioned in I've just been able to road.

[00:11:46]>> It's not only about roads. Now I'm aware of some of the things that Salam have also done in terms of buildings, school renovations. How many of that do we have in my constituency?

[00:11:58]>> So bamb is the standard for you at least at least with relatively with what we have now with what we have now.

[00:12:05]>> But are you worried that the APC is gaining momentum in >> they are not gaining any momentum?

[00:12:10]Where's the momentum? No. Go to the streets.

[00:12:13]>> They are not gaining any momentum. As a matter of fact, let me tell you this because I might not just give the details. Many of the the people that you will call their members, they're going to vote for accord.

[00:12:23]>> How are you sure about that?

[00:12:24]>> I'm very certain we've had meetings with them. A number of them, they are not also happy. Some of them are not happy with with their candidates. Some of them are like uh what are we going to even use to campaign?

[00:12:35]You understand? The governor has a number of things 101 things that they going to use to campaign. What will the APC what will they tell the people that they coming to do in the government office or the government house? What did they forget? So the people of you see one good thing about this is that we've seen a four years of a particular governor. We've seen another four years of a particular governor. So it is not the decision of the people to choose.

[00:12:58]For instance, I told I was being interviewed. I said this campaign or this election is one is going to be one of the easiest. You know why? Easiest for the governor. You know why? Because the governor has made the job easier for us in my constituency. I can begin to count 1 2 3. Of course, he has not done everything. Let's be realistic. The governor has not done everything in my conituency, but he has done a number of things comparatively far far better than what we had before.

[00:13:24]>> There are some bad roads that people will never expect that the governor is going to touch. But the governor has done it. So if you is getting momentum, where is the momentum? Where is the momentum coming from? It's all fake. M >> the governor is going to and let me tell you what's going to shock you is not going to shock us that the governor is going to win because we expected that.

[00:13:41]But what is going to shock you is the wide margin that the governor is going to have.

[00:13:46]>> Yes.

[00:13:47]>> From your end >> absolutely >> from in the state. Of course the state we're going to win will not only win the state also win >> for money for ambo and I know why I'm asking you >> the DG of Amber is only >> he has some will say maybe he has at least double double >> por to prove >> okay let let me >> number one he needs to be re-elected to show you guys he's the real landlord that called himself you know that's what he said number >> it's even unfortunate that some personality can refer to themselves as landlord in a democratic sector Then secondly maybe needs to prove that he's a capacity DG that corridor needs to be delivered for Amber. So >> is it is Ookun for IM or for Amber realistic and I will prove it to you. I will prove it to you in two points. So number one Obokun is for I because of what the governor has done in now if the governor has not done anything as their representative I might not even come up in this studio because I know I will not have anything to say >> you and I would not want to lie. you know my kind of personality but I'm bold to come here because of what I know I can begin to speak it you can ask me I'll begin to tell you the by my fingertips what the governor has done that's number one then number two the DG of the opposition party is just a person which is one vote you understand then number three now I think I read something that was shared on WhatsApp platform recently and I was also shocked the number of people that defected with the DG of Amber from PDP to APC. I don't know where that originated from but I found it to be accurate and they counted the number of people from for instance he had the highest from what 10 which was in is in Larry 10 people defected the total number of it is around 50 so is it the 50 people that defected with him that will now give Amber victory say that is just one vote you don't think that he has significant influence >> 50 50 people 50 people only 50.

[00:15:51]>> Yeah, because it was listed my phone, my gadget is I would have tried to read it out for you. Maybe in world one maybe about four or five >> as the DG of a campaign. You don't think he has significant influence >> to sway votes in >> 50 people 50 people is fine is okay from what we saw the data word one word two it I don't know where that originated from but when I studied it I found it to be true because I was just imagining oh this is true word one which is my word I saw the number of people that defected okay it is true war two this is true three this probably it even came from that political party maybe some of the people that were agrieved that why are you trying to give this particular person influence that he does not have.

[00:16:29]So maybe decided to go and generate, you know, the number of people that >> Well, you promised the governor 20,000 votes. How realistic is that?

[00:16:37]>> Yeah. And I will tell you why. The last one we had, we had about 13,000 votes.

[00:16:41]Now we've two things because I always some people say 100,000 votes. I just want to be realistic. The last election it was about 13,000 votes. Now we've registered more people. You understand?

[00:16:52]Apart from that we also have more people working for us from the opposition party. They will not know. We have a number of them. Now we are not doing um let me say fake the campaign everywhere.

[00:17:04]We have people accord even from SK. I still spoke with one of the people that joined us from APC this morning. You know I spoke with him and we discuss strategies. So we're going to have 20,000 votes.

[00:17:16]>> Yes. Really? Yes.

[00:17:17]>> All right. But you talked about the issue of landlord the other time which he said yes he's the landlord from that part. The last time he was here he sat in that same seat >> and he said yes he was while he was in the PDP. He made that clarification that now that he's another party maybe he's not the landlord but he was the landlord in that corridor in the PDP. You having issue with that statement?

[00:17:41]>> No. Well I don't think anybody to >> maybe maybe it's about his stature and his influence. No, no, no. I think that will be insulting to the people for me.

[00:17:49]That's my personal opinion because this this is a democratic settings.

[00:17:53]>> Yeah.

[00:17:54]>> Nobody is the landlord. The people are the landlord. How can I call myself the landlord of a particular constituent because they've elected me first time, second landlord in a particular party.

[00:18:04]He said that was why he was in the PDP.

[00:18:07]>> No, no, no.

[00:18:07]>> You still found it.

[00:18:08]>> No, no, no. But in a democratic setting as a leader, you can't refer yourself as a landlord. The people are the one in getting you elected. So you are not the landlord. The people are the landlord.

[00:18:19]It's all about the people not about you.

[00:18:21]>> So you can't refer yourself. The moment you begin to refer yourself as the landlord, I think is an insult on the people >> to a personality as the landlord in a democratic setting. I don't think that is allowed. I don't think that is >> still about that. All right. Because you know we give your corridor some air time this morning. You should thank us for that. All right. uh you know the conversation in a kind of way is shifted towards uh the ref's um thing for um APC from >> and that's the spokesman for the money campaign council you know maybe this will be his uh uh first time you know um you know somebody who has not really held public office before you know that's what I'm trying to He has done well for himself in his law career and all of those things and he has aspired before and he has even said that the last time he was prevailed upon he has he had a personal meeting with where he told him to stand down and of course he will reciprocate that same gesture which has become quite controversial now accord versus aspiration don't you think maybe you are you buying more than you can chew.

[00:19:45]>> When you said, Hold on. You said experience versus aspiration.

[00:19:48]>> Yeah.

[00:19:49]>> Political experience. This is a man that has vi at least six times. You only lost once in >> That's good. And um experience experience in what areas? You see, I I I wait for my nation sincerely because I was having a discussion with one of my friends yesterday and we're talking about Nigeria. We have political leaders in our nation that we can also say they are experienced. But what has this experience brought us? We've had people since I was young, now I'm old, that they've been in politics.

[00:20:18]>> You don't think experience matters?

[00:20:21]>> Hold on. Experience matter. Experience in what?

[00:20:24]>> This is somebody, hold on, sir. This is somebody that has run for election five, six times. He only lost once. This is um who is now a candidate facing such a man that had experience in politics. He has he has been in office.

[00:20:44]He wants to run again. That's what I'm saying. APC.

[00:20:51]Okay. Now are you talking about winning?

[00:20:53]Yes.

[00:20:55]>> The political contest and will swing for your >> Okay. You agree with me? The people always decide that the people will always decide and right now the table has turned.

[00:21:05]>> How how has the table turned?

[00:21:06]>> The table has turned because uh number one or is even crying for representation right now.

[00:21:12]>> You agree with that agitation?

[00:21:14]>> Well, you saw the videos everywhere.

[00:21:16]>> I'm asking you.

[00:21:17]>> Of course, I saw the video or should that's the slogan.

[00:21:22]>> No, I'm saying do you agree?

[00:21:23]>> Yes, I I just gave you the slogan now.

[00:21:26]I'm the one saying it.

[00:21:26]>> Oh, okay. I'm saying local on this matter.

[00:21:31]>> Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. And now with the pendulum swinging the people uh you see it's not bad if a personality goes 10 for five time but it depends on how you able to manage the people you understand and when you are saying experience thing changes whoever thought that the secretary senator from quara will lose as a senate president >> don't forget that don't forget that so things are changing things are changing so uh when you say political experience the people are also uh there are shiftings everywhere in the political settings. There are shifting there are realignments going on everywhere. You might not see this until the elections are count on the election day, you know.

[00:22:15]And besides, >> do you want to make a call? Do you want to put a call on the line?

[00:22:23]Who will carry the day?

[00:22:24]>> Of course, >> because you are an accord man.

[00:22:28]>> That's not only the reason because of what the street is saying.

[00:22:31]>> Does he have that street credibility?

[00:22:33]>> Of course, local government.

[00:22:36]>> You wish to see the crowd.

[00:22:39]That's my town. of local government you wish to see the crowd so every word I'm not even talking about >> some will say maybe the crowd doesn't matter because the same guys who will wear the yellow cap we still go and wear the gray white one and red >> no no no no you know you know why this is different we can count the one we had in we counted the number of people these were not even word people these were just we call them canvas running into >> it's organic >> it's organic but father is still from the end he's running again.

[00:23:11]>> Yes, >> he has a wider reach. If a jesha, all of your constituencies are still within his own district and he has his own people.

[00:23:19]>> Yes.

[00:23:19]>> How influential would that be?

[00:23:21]>> Now, one thing about the beauty of democracies is all about the people.

[00:23:26]Now, what I want to believe maybe one of those things that the oppositions are counting upon is federites, security agencies, all this kind of a thing. But you can that can only work when you have margins very close. But the moment you have people majority of the people swinging in a particular direction, it will be difficult for you to manipulate that.

[00:23:48]>> What do you think will determine the outcome of the 2026 elections?

[00:23:52]>> What the governor has done is work. The people love him.

[00:23:56]>> Is that you think that's sufficient? You don't have fears of federal might.

[00:24:00]>> Fears of federal might. Where will it come from? Will the high command be shooting everybody in Ocean State? Okay.

[00:24:06]Who will give instruction for people not to be vote to allow to be voted? Let we want to see the kind of a person that will say on election day the police officers should restrict this kind of people. They should not vote or you want to bring talks. Let anybody come on air and say that is their plan.

[00:24:24]Even somebody was telling me yesterday and I agree with the person when distinguished senator Father was still in PDP in his word. We still have people that voted APC.

[00:24:35]So it's about the people on election that you'll be shocked and surprised that this election of August will be so peaceful. It will be so you'll be surprised. It will be so peaceful. You see one of the strategies is to use uh fear you know to chase people away. But that will not work again because the people already understand that this is a decision that is going to determine whether or is going to go backward or you going to go forward. Imagine somebody running a relay race. I saw one of the funny videos about our nation.

[00:25:04]You were running the relay race and somebody gave you the batting and instead of you going forward you went backward because we can compare what is happening in our state. We've had a four years before. Don't let let's even forget the theatrics of 12 years. It's about 4 years that we've had of APC. the last four years APC had and we have another four years of govern let's compare now some people came we just had and we are still having it some of them could not even identify the road again because the governor has transformed the state not only about the state capital go to go to go to go to there's no federal constituency that the governor has not transformed let's this is not even about our party this is not about my party it's about what is happening in our state so when we see something that is going on very very well why we not we will not support such a state thing and you be sure like I said even the APC members too I'm going to vote governor that's the truth because every genuine politician that wants this states to move forward should understand that the governor has changed this state in about 3 years I he was in office and you see people never expected it because they said he's a dancing governor and he shocked the number of people he was not only dancing he's still dancing and he's working he's working look at and should I tell you this I was addressing uh the workers in house of assembly Recently when the NLC people when they came I said it is easy for the governor to do all these projects to pay the half salaries you understand to pay the areas and all man of the governor is doing because number one we all understand the kind of family they come from and Dr. The jade will understand his pedigree in the nation not only nation in the world and he contributed majorly to the finances of the election of his brother and he said he does not need anything from him as a matter of fact he said if he does not perform he will be one of the first person to call a press conference you know why politicians because the money bags are the one that control it but in is not the case and is not asking for anything as a matter of fact he's still assisted the governor personally you know to make sure financially to make sure the state runs very well. So he's not asking for anything. And I my second point when the governor submitted the budget to that of assembly I spoke I said Mr. Governor your excellency sir you are one of the poorest governor because we see the books we check the accounts the governor is not requesting for any personal funds from anywhere is just serving the state sacrificially and this is why it is easy for him to do all this project. Why is it difficult for the previous admission that we have before to do all this project? It is because it takes resources and some of these resources are not being they not taking they're not giving it to the state.

[00:27:35]>> So this kind of a governor should be reelected and will be reelected.

[00:27:41]>> The previous administration has said severally they never borrowed a dime. Is that true of your >> So what I wonder if the pro admission said they never borrowed a dime. So which debt is a state governor servicing presently? Go and check the debt profile. It has reduced. So who borrowed the money?

[00:27:57]>> Government is a continue. Uhhuh. I'm requesting I mean replying to what she said that they said they did not borrow >> the previous administ.

[00:28:04]>> So which one which one is the governor now refunding? I wish I have the data here. I would have read it out the depth profile of the state. It has reduced.

[00:28:13]>> So are you saying the previous administration borrowing?

[00:28:15]>> Of course if they if they have not borrowed the governor will have no reason to be returning any saying the APC ad I mean >> of course either way the previous administrations.

[00:28:24]>> Let let me take you back to that senator fam.

[00:28:27]um you know influence now that he has emerged the candidate.

[00:28:33]That was what I was trying to say the other time of you know is to be reelected. I mean he wants re-election rather and you know so what are the chances of the court party with the man because the street ass is that he has invested in that corridor. Yeah. From the same book like yourself, employment opportunities when he does his employ I mean empowerment thing is always mega you know and um he has that uh maybe love and he might be quite influential in that decision. He has his own people.

[00:29:07]Don't you think that will count really?

[00:29:09]>> Yeah. Well, I give it to the senator and I agree with what you said. He has his own people >> but polit is about game of numbers that you have your own people does not mean it is sufficient >> to win an election and if you say if he he has invested >> so you are saying senator fans influence will not be enough >> not to vote >> um accord candidate is that what >> is going to win the governor >> we're going to win the senators we're going to win the nine reps we're going to and the 26 of assembly will not win.

[00:29:45]>> Senator FC and IBK you are all beat about that.

[00:29:49]>> According as a matter of fact, let me tell you >> the candidate of Accord is the former sub chairman former government.

[00:29:58]So toe to toe one onone IBK will trump Senator >> Fami. Absolutely.

[00:30:06]>> Absolutely. You are making that call.

[00:30:08]>> Yes. You're even saying Accord is going to have a sweeping victory. Is that what you're saying?

[00:30:13]>> Yeah. You see it's it's all about going to be about the influence of the government.

[00:30:18]>> According now, >> hold on. You are saying Accord. Don't forget I said something when we began this conversation. We have the whole structure of the PDP >> with Accord. As a matter of fact, not only that, we have the people. Do you go to the street at all? I have a branded vehicle now. Sometimes I going into it but sometimes when I don't go my my people tell me that people anywhere that vehicle goes to you see the shout of him everywhere try it I can give you a branded vehicle drive it around and let's see deduction of the people this man is loved he's a man of the street he's the man of the people anywhere he goes to is all about I >> you think that will translate >> absolutely the people the people ching mole they are not they are not trees they are not animals they are human beings Have you seen did you see the video of a particular woman that was appreciating the governor about how she was stagnated in her job for several years and the governor came upon everything moved that forward. We have similar stories everywhere.

[00:31:18]>> Similar story. Look at the workers. Look at what is happening to the workers.

[00:31:22]They are so happy. Do you know how many states are are paying this minimum wage in Nigeria? Even the federal government that started it are they actually doing it 75,500 or state is one is not the richest in the southwest. But for sure it will belong to that category in the southwest. It means a lot.

[00:31:37]>> Let me ask you something. It will appear like all of you are banking on the reelection of Governor Adola for that tsunami effect to help. What happens if the reverse is the case?

[00:31:51]>> The reverse won't be the case. Now the reverse won't be the case. Even your in just saying even in the example it will not be the case. the governor will be returned elected by >> everything is being shouldered on the election of governor >> because it's the very first election if the national assembly and the parliamentarian is election is going to be the first I will be saying the same thing this governorship is just two months there about August 15 >> and we shouldn't even be talking about next year election we should be talking about the August 15 election >> the accord lost one of yours you know to the APC and they have >> is Is that not a crime?

[00:32:28]>> Some of us uh we because we even had a discussion uh unfortunately that has stood his ground.

[00:32:36]>> No, no, no. That has absocial APC. Okay.

[00:32:39]>> But our colleague from um IU are you referring to?

[00:32:43]>> Uh I think he just made a hasty decision. You know, he shouldn't have done that. And um we've had reports that um unverified anyway, you know. or so but because I'm on that is even regretting the decision because even the ticket that he wanted I don't think he was given in um APC and if he had stayed he would have gotten his ticket in accord >> all right um before we go there has been you know stripping concerns about violence in the state especially you know political violence are you >> concerned about violence come August 15 >> yes I'm concerned I'm concerned and this is why I would want to address political actors >> because you want to get position must you kill the blood of anybody is not what all this position that we're talking about everything that we are doing now will soon become history what history are we seeing you know what are we going to begin to see in the next four years now if you want a particular position please tell the people what you've done and work for it why must you bring violence into it why why why must you bring so I don't support that anybody moving around with thugs and all this kind of things and all the kind of people that we want in our nation or in in Ocean State politics and I want to call on the Nigerian police force you see they should be an unbiased umpire in this regards you understand that because whatever it is that they do now will be on record but regardless we are not afraid we are not scared because I said it one of the tools that they will be using is to use fear on the people it will never work the people have made up their mind to vote governor admire and that is what is going to happen >> all right >> thank you uh it's good to have you here it's always good to have you Yeah, thank you. We talked almost politics and governance this morning.

[00:34:26]>> Would have loved to talk with you on um one of your core which is education or maybe some other time. We wish you all the best. Thank you. All right. And you know we have spoken to I mean I was almost saying governor maybe maybe just honorable of representing the good people of I mean sorry at why am I taking you beyond those things that you are wishing for maybe in the coming days why not.

[00:34:59]Thank you for your time and your take.

[00:35:01]We'll take a quick break right now and when we return we speak to more issues especially at the national level. The opposition parties you know the candidacy of most parties are being decided and their agitation in those parties as well. What will it be and what will lead not as