The US-Iran negotiations involve Iran demanding the release of stolen assets, lifting of sanctions on its oil and gas industry, and an end to Israeli military operations in Lebanon and Gaza, while Iran will not have nuclear weapons and will allow more ships through the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran controls as territorial waters and will charge fees for passage as reparations for countries that assisted the US in its war against Iran.
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BREAKING! Israel DESTROYING Iran Deal! w/Mohammad MarandiAdded:
Welcome to Savvy Sabs podcast. I'm your host Sabrina Salvati. My special guest today is Professor Muhammad Morandi.
You've seen him here before. He's a professor at the University of Tron.
Welcome back, Professor Miranda.
>> Hi, Sabrina. Thank you very much for inviting me. It's always a great pleasure.
So there seems to be conflicting news reports uh about what's happening with the US and Iran. The most recent reports that have come through is that uh the US apparently did strike Iran yet again in the midst of these negotiations and Western media is saying that Donald Trump and Pete Hegsth have said that these are retaliatory strikes. So I want to start with that. Um, why are they saying these are retaliatory strikes and what exactly is the harm that they cause? Because they're saying we once again obliterated Iran's uh military.
>> Well, they're lying obviously. Uh nothing happened to the Americans. What was the what happened for them to retaliate? these uh four sailors that they murdered and of course their families are in mourning uh were in Iranian territorial waters. They weren't even in international waters and the United States just bombed their the two boats. Uh these were small uh boats each I think two men inside and Iran of course subsequently fired missiles at US drones and an F-35.
They downed a couple of drones apparently. I'm not quite sure how many, but uh then uh uh later on hours later a ship off the coast of Oman uh was targeted. I assume that was in retaliation. But uh this is just basically what the Americans do. They they launch the war and then they say this war has been going on for 47 years.
Uh you know there's no logic in anything they say just like the Israeli regime.
They slaughter women and children and Western media looks away and they call these Hezbollah strongholds and you constantly see every day people digging little kids out from under the rubble and uh Western media constantly says Hezbollah targets in order to uh distract people or to make to uh uh to fool people, deceive people into thinking that the Israeli regime is indeed targeting Hezbollah even though that would be illegal too because it's it's aggression uh doesn't make a difference but uh and you know one of the interesting things Sabrina and I'm sort of this I'm I digress but uh during the uh genocide in Gaza which is still ongoing uh western media would always have an excuse uh when it wouldn't report on anything or or talk about the the the daily slaughter and they would say that well we don't have a presence on the In the case of Lebanon, they have uh they have many reporters there. Beirut is a center for uh western media correspondents and there's no difference. They are quiet. They look away. They repeat the the anti- uh the pro-Israeli regime narratives trying to uh distract attention away from the fact that the regime is ethnically cleansing the south. They're exterminating family after family after family every day. And uh the journalists in Beirut, they work for the Epstein class, so obviously they're going to the the legacy media journalists. So they're obvious obviously going to do and write what they're told to do and to write. But in any case, um the this attack on the Iranians um may have been to put pressure on Iran at the negotiating table, which is not got not going to have any effect. It's going to have the opposite effect. And Netanyahu's uh massive uh onslaught against the people of Lebanon is also uh an attempt to undermine the uh negotiations. and uh it's having an effect because the Iranians uh are going to be uh more cautious about any agreement under these circumstances.
>> Speaking of the negotiation table, uh Donald Trump has now it seems like he's adding a new clause to this and that's the Abraham Accords. He is saying that the Gulf states are going to have to join the Abraham Accords and he said that it needs to start with Saudi Arabia. Now, from what I understand, Saudi Arabia, they have this condition with this where they said, well, the Abraham Accords does not equal a Palestinian state. Uh, which is which is true, but from what I read, it seems to be, I guess, the king of of Saudi Arabia that is, you know, I guess shaky on this or whatever. What is the significance of these Abraham accords? I mean, I have my own opinion about this. And how do you feel about Donald Trump uh saying that Iran can also join the Abraham Accords?
>> Well, there isn't a chance in the world that the Iranians would join because Iran doesn't consider the Israeli regime to be legitimate. Iran considers it to be uh um morally illegitimate. So, uh it will never negotiate with it or uh recognize it. So, obviously Iran would never join the accords. Iran sees the Israeli regime as a as as the equivalent of apartheite aparite South Africa only much much more brutal and uh and murderous than even the apartheid regime in South Africa. So for Iran that's just uh imp that's just unthinkable. these Arab regimes, all of them would like to join whatever club the Americans want them to join. But the problem is is that their populations hate the Israeli regime. And the more they're seen conspiring with the regime uh and cooperating with the regime, the the more anger uh they stir up at home. And this comes at a time when they're already severely weakened because of the war that they helped wage against Iran.
It's interesting that during this war uh when Iran began to retaliate and strike US bases in these countries and then subsequently strike uh oil and gas infrastructure in these countries after Iran's oil and gas infrastructure were were targeted. uh people across the Arab world were cheering for Iran except for the Wahhabis and the Salafis and these you know uh these extremists and others who are on the payroll. These are all people on the payroll uh whether on Qatar's payroll or the Saudi payroll or the Emirati payroll. uh but ordinary people were cheering because they hate these regimes because they know that uh they've these these five countries in the Persian Gulf they are bound to the United States all of them have secret relations with the Israeli regime the Emirates uh is more open about it much more open about it but all of them have that relationship and all the countries in the region except for Iran and Yemen they they have uh secret dealings to has a trade relationship ship that's been ongoing throughout the the genocide.
Turkey transports uh cheap oil from Baku to Netanyahu and Egypt imports n uh natural gas.
Jordan has extensive trade relations uh and uh and so and the countries in the Persian Gulf all have a relationship too. So they really don't have a problem with this. And the these accords are basically to normalize the Israeli regime and of course to help bring an end to the Palestinian cause because the more the Israeli regime is seen as legitimate and uh and acceptable in the region, then the more easy it is for them to wipe out the Palestinian population.
That makes sense. I was kind of surprised he added Pakistan to this. He wants Pakistan to also join the Abraham Accords. What is the likelihood that that would happen?
>> Well, under these circumstances, I find it I mean any any uh any government in this part of the world that signs the court now is taking a poison pill because people hate the regime. They hate the Israeli regime. People hate Trump. People a lot of people hate the United States. Now I I think it's fair to say that people hate the United States, meaning the US government, not US citizens. But uh I don't I really don't see that happening now. And the fact that Trump ordered these countries to join and on the we we've been told that on this phone in this phone conversation he he wanted them to join.
I don't know if on in the conversation he ordered them to join too, but in his truth social post he effectively was ordering them to join. And that uh also weakens these governments because if they don't respond then they're seen by their own people as weak and submissive and none of them have responded uh in in a in a in a assertive way. Uh the Saudis put out a statement the others didn't but the Saudi statement wasn't uh u with the same tone. uh but um by by being you know by humiliating these governments the United States is not doing any it itself any favors.
>> What is uh Iran asking for at this point in time uh with with this agreement because I I keep hearing different things but but what does Iran want in order to have some type of agreement with the United States?
Well, what's supposed to happen in this agreement is that um the United States will release Iranian uh stolen assets.
Uh half of it will have will be released at the very beginning and uh then Iran, the United States will have to wave all sanctions for Iran's oil and gas industry for it to be able to export more easily. and um they'll have to lift the siege and they'll have to um uh put a uh bring an end to the the massacre the massacres that the Israeli regime are carrying out in Lebanon and to have a regional ceasefire and and and an end to the regional wars. And um that's why the Israeli regime is now carpet bombing Lebanon and slaughtering uh especially over the last couple days at a as at an extraordinary pace. It's just unbelievable what they're doing.
It's unbelievable how Western media's looking away. Whether it's the Guardian or the or Fox News, they're all the same. But um um in return, what the Iranians will do is Iran will state that it will not um um have nuclear weapons, which it's been saying for years. So that's not really a concession. And the second is that Iran will allow uh the number of ships to go through the straight of Hormos to go back to what it was before the war, but the straight will remain under Iranian control. So, it's a good deal for Iran and uh it reflects the reality on the ground that that the United States lost the war and that it siege warfare has done more damage to the global economy than to Iran's economy. Although it has damaged Iran's economy, but um but it's been it was a double-edged sword that uh uh didn't work well for the United States and is not working well. So, if the agreement goes through, then that will be a 60-day agreement. And if that that agreement thatou is I may be I think that's about it but but if theou u is successful in its implementation then after 60 days it can either it can be extended possibly and the two sides will start negotiating about sanctions and about the nuclear program. So Iran has no commitments at the moment beyond uh allowing uh more ships to pass through the straight of Hormos and not to have a nuclear weapon. So I think it's a very good deal for Iran. But the Israelis don't want this and that's why Netanyahu is now slaughtering uh people across uh Lebanon and Gaza as we speak. And if you recall, I'm I'm sure you do, after the ceasefire between Iran and the United States after the 39 days of fighting, uh because back then at the at the beginning of the war, Trump demanded unconditional surrender, but by the end of the war, the end of the hot war, Trump accepted Iran's 10-point plan for the as the framework for negotiations.
So at that point a ceasefire agreement was agreed upon which included regional peace and back then the Israelis also carried out carpet bombing in response to wreck the uh ceasefire agreement and it did wreck the agreement and that's why uh the the straight of Homos remain closed for for those ships that were linked to countries that helped the United States against Iran in the world.
Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Qatar, and Bahrain. So, um, so basically by wrecking that ceasefire, Netanyahu and Trump have pushed the world much closer towards a cliff uh economic uh an economic catastrophe. And uh right now again Netanyahu is trying to undermine the agreement and thus literally he's going to if he succeeds push the world over uh as economically speaking over.
>> How would that benefit uh Israel this this global collapse? Like I my my own opinion about this is that people like Benjamin Netanyahu, they want global uh disaster because it'll lead to chaos and he believes that out of chaos we'll become will they'll have order. Um but but how would they benefit from that if we have a global collapse?
>> I think it's actually the opposite because um the world the the opinion of the Israeli regime has evolved and over the past almost three years now because it started in October. So it's you know in in in a few months it'll be three years. So um during this period of time the people's eye the eye the pe the pe the eyes of people across the world have opened and people dislike the regime.
Um, but also this economic hardship that is growing across the world is seen as being the fault of Trump and Netanyahu and of course the Israeli regime. So governments and people are going to be extra angry at uh the Israelis, the Zionist lobby, Trump and Netanyahu.
So Netanyahu wants this, I'm sure, because he he only cares about himself.
He wants to stay out of jail. He wants to stay in power. So he wants crisis after crisis. He wants the crisis to continue because that's how he remains in charge. But it this is destroying the regime. This is destroying Israel. It's it's already delegitimized it in the eyes of uh public opinion across the world. And now the rage uh as a result of the misery that's being imposed upon people across the world uh is being directed towards Trump and Netanyahu.
What is the goal with the straight of hormuz? Um because a lot of people I know at least here in the west I don't know how it is uh in Iran, but here in the west like the gas prices are they're they're through the roof. Um we're looking at some people are paying $67 a gallon in California. Um I'm it's $465 uh where I am in Massachusetts. It's it's through the roof. People are starting to see the issue in the grocery stores as well. um the cost of meat has increased uh because people have to understand oil is also connected to fertilizer and farmers need fertilizer to grow food. This whole idea with uh Donald Trump said that you know the straight up moves will go back to the way it was before what does Iran say about that like if there is a negotiation like because Donald Trump is saying like they can't have control of the straight of Ramoose.
How does Iran feel about that?
Oh, Iran will have control over the strait. That's that's finished. The the Iranians have made that decision and there's nothing that the Americans uh can do about it. This is Trump's own doing. He's the Iranians never had any intention of taking control over this trade. This trade is not international waters, by the way. These are Iranian and Omani territorial waters and uh it's not wide enough to be international. And until now, the Iranians allowed ships to pass through. But uh now that's changed for two reasons. One is that Iran will no longer allow the United States to militarize the Persian Gulf. And so all those US bases that have been destroyed in the region, uh the Iranians are not going to allow the United States to use ships to restore them. And that makes things much more expensive. this whole massive military buildup in in the region uh has been done more or less by air and that has made it that's makes things much more costly for the Americans and uh so that is a a big step in in bringing about peace and security in the Persian Gulf. The second is that the Iranians are going to have have a obtain a fee from countries that use the strait. These are Iranian territorial waters. their Omani territorial water.
So Iran is saying that you a fee has to be paid to use uh this waterway. Again, this is the doing of the United States and the Israeli regime. Iran sees these fees as the beginning of uh Oh, I think you froze, Professor Morandi.
>> As as Okay. Is is am I still frozen?
>> No, you're fine now.
Okay. Uh, where did I get cut off?
>> Um, we were talking about the fee that you have to pay for the straight of moose.
>> Okay. So, I'll go bit back a bit and then you figure out how to cut it and put it together.
Uh, the the Iranians so thanks to Trump and Netanyahu will maintain control over the strait. It is after all Iranian and Omani territorial waters. They're not it's intern it's not international waters.
And um there will be a fee for ships to go through. And Iran sees this as uh reparations because the ships uh mostly belong are linked to Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, Kuwait, Bahrain and Qatar and they hosted US bases and they facilitated the attacks on Iran. So um there's nothing that the United States can do about it. But Iran does want to normalize trade through this trade.
we do business. That's how uh Iran makes a lot of its uh money. And uh so Iban doesn't want trade to stop. It is the United States that began the war. And uh the United States that has imposed a siege on the straight of Hormos. Even during the war, Irania the Iranians allowed ships from countries that were not at war with Iran to use the straight of Hormos. uh Iraqi ships, Oman ships, uh Russian ships, Chinese ships, uh Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, uh even Japan. But uh but the ships that are linked to the Saudis and the Amiratis and Gatar and so on, well, these countries were assisting uh the United States in its war against Iran.
And right now US troops are based and US fighter jets and US uh hard military hardware are all based in these countries. So uh US bases uh were in these in these countries and as we speak uh US jets, US military hardware, US troops are stationed in these countries right now. uh the the the Saudis, the Emiratis and Hatad and and so on. So um Iran feels threatened by them because of their support and assistance uh foreign uh to the to to the United States uh against Iran. So uh the as we speak the trade of homos is open.
The Americans have imposed a siege but it's also but it's from the Iranian perspective it's it's open but it's not open to those countries that are conspiring against the country or helping the United States to conspire against the country. But if there is a deal and the United States pulls back and that deal is carried out uh then we will have uh many more ships passing through. But this will not bring normalization to the global economy because the damage has been done and I think the damage will increase in the weeks and months ahead even if we have an agreement tomorrow.
Even if tomorrow we have an agreement, uh first of all, it'll take months for uh exports uh to go back to get back to normal and in some cases a couple 2 three years at least.
uh and uh but also because of the uh shortage of uh oil and LNG and fertilizers and helium and other petrochemicals and aluminum and other goods that come came from the Persian Gulf. That shortage will remain for the for many months if not uh a year or two.
So the the damage to the global economy is enormous and we're only just beginning to feel it. Uh the inflation that we see now is just a symptom. Uh the reality is much worse, but it'll be uh it'll slowly become more visible to all in the weeks ahead. But again, if it if there is a deal in in in the next few days, that will uh it will it'll be very painful. But um we won't have a global economic depression. But if this continues for much longer or if there's war then I think a global uh economic depression uh a major glo an an unprecedented global economic depression would will be inevitable.
So, I'm glad that you said that um because I think um I think many Americans are under the impression that if this wraps up in Iran that the ga everything's going to be fixed. The grocery store prices are going to come down, the gases is going to come down, but to the point that you make, the damage has already been done. I think that's important for people to hear.
Professor Richard Wolf was talking about that um as well. I have to ask about the UAE. I saw a video recently that showed that there's some type of uh pipeline or or something that goes from the UAE uh towards Iran. And what was brought to my attention in that video is that Iran can cut that off at any time. So the UAE is still very much dependent. Uh it's funny thinking about it. They're still dependent on Iran. Um and yet they're they're siding with Israel.
>> Well, the UAE's uh exports mostly go from the Persian Gulf and go through the straight of Homos and uh some of their imports and exports are from a go from a port or or come in and out from a port on the outside of the Persian Gulf uh and the and outside the straight of Hormos. But Iran has put that territory under Iranian straight of hormones authority. In other words, Iran says that we're controlling uh that Emirati port that is outside of the straight of hormones. And the reason why Iran is doing that is because of the war. The Iranians are punishing the Emirates. Uh I I think the Emirates is never going to go back to what it was before. And uh their alliance with the Israeli regime is is just too much. Uh they've harmed Iran a lot. They facilitated air strikes on Iran for the whole 39 days and they also carried out attacks on Iran. So that's why they were severely punished. Uh but Iran will continue to put pressure on them Emirates until it feels that uh it behaves uh in a more normal fashion. But as long as the Emirates is an ally of the Israeli regime, uh normalization with Iran is impossible and the Emirates will never return to what it was 3 months ago.
Yeah, I it's it's interesting. Um they're acting like they have all the cards when they actually don't. Um I want to get into some of the the propaganda. I sent you that video of of Robert Harwood. He's a a former Navy Seal in the US. Uh a lot of people have been talking about this video because it's obvious either that video was AI or Robert was wearing a mask. It it's it's so obvious. So many people are calling it out. is exactly right about the point he makes and also Iran has a vote in this as well. Uh they've reconfigured a number of things I am certain. What do you think the next best move is today?
>> Well, I agree with the general completely with one caveat. Patience may be a little short of the real uh objective here. The president has time on his hands. He's controls the narrative. He controls the strike capabilities and he knows that the policy he set with the blockade has had short-term and long-term effects on the regime and the people of Iran. So he's been very astute in leveraging that time. And so I I don't see it as negotiations. It really is capitulation.
The president's made it very clear. You will not have a nuclear weapon. You will not have the material. surrender that and you will ensure that the straits of Amuse are open to free commerce that you have no claims for sir charge or approving those two things are irreversibly uh and the president knows he's in the position to demand those so I think in that sense he controls the narrative and when he would strike I'd also say that patience and the request from Saudi Qatar UAE may be more also religious at the moment. You're in the middle of Haj.
You have millions of Muslims in Saudi doing their annual Haj at the end of this month. And that includes 30,000 Iranians. And so that plays into the calculus. Do you want to strike during Haj, which is a very sacred Muslim month in activity followed by Eidal A. So both of those things are the time equation and that's what the president controls most. so he can take his time, let the blockade and the economic sanctions continue to erode uh the economy of Iran erode the power of the regime. Uh enhance the hatred that all the Iranians in Iran have for the regime. So all those things work in his favor and he can strike whenever he wants to.
>> Okay. But but that said this from a US senior official reported in Axios.
But I think what's really important, this guy is on Fox News over and over again, of course, advocating for war against Iran, but they never mention who this guy really is. They don't go into his background, which is the fact that his father worked for I I guess advise the the pre-revolutionary guard in Iran.
He used to live, Robert Harward used to live in in Iran, which means that his dad would have basically worked for the Sha if if I understand correctly. And wasn't that westernbacked?
>> Of course. Yes. In fact, uh before the revolution, Iran was like Saudi Arabia.
It was an empty shell. It was a despotic regime. Uh very little real infrastructure existed. I mean, you can see the that how vulnerable and weak these five regimes on the other side of the Persian Gulf are despite all the money that they've had. They can't fight wars. They cannot stand on their own two feet. They're totally dependent on the United States. Why? Because they're empty shells. They've never developed.
They purchase huge amounts of weapons from the United States. But those weapons are basically for corruption.
They get, you know, the princes get kickbacks, so do the Americans. The princes get commissions, so do the Americans, but uh but they don't know how to use the weapons. And they can't fight wars. They they can't develop an an indigenous uh economy.
And uh that's what Iran was like before the revolution. People in the west like to think that Iran was uh progressing.
The majority of Iranians at the time of the revolution were uh had no education. They were they were illiterate and uh even more a strong majority of women were illiterate. So when they speak about women's rights under the sha it was the exact opposite. It was uh after the revolution the even though the west imposed a war through Saddam Hussein against Iran and these same Arab regimes gave Saddam Hussein hundreds of billions of dollars to wage that war and the West gave him chemical weapons and and everything it he he needed to to slaughter Iranians. Um the Iranians were carried out under those circumstances a universal uh literacy campaign and uh within 15 years Iran 15 17 18 years people could look it up uh I don't know the exact numbers and dates but they they they got pretty close to universal uh educ u universally pe almost all people were educated or were literate and Um um so and and now of course it's most of our university students are women. It's been like that for two three decades. But in any case the sha he was like the Saudis. It was an empty shell.
Iran Iran purchased all sorts of American weapons but they weren't even allowed to to use them. Like the F-14s that Iran purchased uh American advisers uh military advisers were hired. They would come, they would be in charge. If there was if repairs were needed, they would do the repairs. The Iranians who owned the plane, they had no right to access the planes. And then if the repairs were major, they would send them to the United States, the planes. And so these advisers were making huge amounts of money. They're tens of thousands of them. Uh and the local the Iranians, the they weren't allowed to have access. So we the Saudi Saudi Arabia and the Emirates and these these regimes in that respect uh they what they are today was what the Sha was back then too. An empty shell uh a despotic regime that was kept in power by the United States and the secret police, the Sabak. Uh it was uh it was trained by the CIA and Mousad. Uh so um so yeah, I'm sure his father had uh made a lot of money when he was living in Iran and I'm sure his son benefited a great deal from the wealth amassed uh by being in Iran.
>> Yeah, it's these are just some of the things I think that they should mention um so that people understand why he has the talking points that he has. I think that's important for people to know. But I think that like when when you look at people in Iran right now, I mean, how are they feeling about possible negotiations with the United States?
>> Uh mixed feelings. Uh a lot of Iranians don't want negotiations and they say we shouldn't negotiate. Many say we should go we have to we have there's going this we should have we shouldn't have accepted the ceasefire and we should have continued because uh we were winning the war and we should have just you know ended this once and for all. uh many others do want negotiations but overwhelmingly I think the consensus is that uh the Trump is the enemy, Netanyahu is the enemy and that Iran won the war and that we have to remain resilient until this war is over. There is there is a strong sense of pride in the fact that the country performed so well both during the 39 days well the 12-day war last year it's almost the anniversary of that assault uh that blitz Greek attack against Iran which was carried out at as we're negotiating just like this war but um there's a lot of pride about those 39 days and how Iran effectively defeated its adversaries and then a lot of pride about how in Iran has been able to manage under siege warfare uh until now.
So um the mood in Iran I mean there are different views of the way forward but there is a consensus about who is guilty and and uh who is the enemy and they see Trump and Netanyahu as uh the two enemies uh of the Iranian people.
There was a report recently that Israel just bombed Gaza again.
Why is Israel still bombing Gaza at this point?
>> Because they can.
Because the Because the United States lets them do that. Because the Europeans let them do that. The Canadians, the Australians, the UK, they all let them do that. Because Western media will let him get will get let the Israelis get away with this. They're doing even worse in Lebanon. And both are like countries with ceasefires, but these are just fake.
This is a a an evil truly evil regime.
They bomb tents. They snipe kids. Um they're they bomb apartment blocks all the time. And right now they're they're wiping out families both in Lebanon and in Gaza. And it's not even really in the news. There's no outrage in the West.
You don't see any parliamentarians in Europe, you know, putting forward bills to or or or laws to to sanction the Israeli regime. In fact, they continue to assist the regime and the United States. And unfortunately, the huge wave of outrage that led people to go to the streets across the world in huge numbers, that momentum has uh been lost.
uh you recall how in Australia and across Europe and elsewhere there were hundreds if not millions of people on the streets and that's why Trump went and um did this fake ceasefire to break that momentum and sadly uh leaders in this re region they helped Trump again Abdullah and Jordan Erdogan Cece you know the the the leaders in the Persian Gulf region and ali and the Republic of Azar and others all went to to Egypt for that uh for that uh clown show and they whitewashed Trump and the genocide and a ceasefire was declared and ever since they've been slaughtering Palestinians and now they're slaughtering uh the Lebanese even in much what's going on in Lebanon now is is is is very similar to the height of the genocide in Gaza. But that momentum is gone and Western media tries desperately to prevent people from um doing something about it.
>> Yeah, it it makes me wonder um where France is in all of this because I know that they have business dealings with uh Lebanon uh at least uh in Beirut. Um I know Macron has mentioned that before.
China has come out uh in support of of Iran. H how do you feel about that?
Because I know Donald Trump was just just there uh trying to I guess have some type of business dealings, but doesn't seem like anything really happened. But they've come out in support of Iran. How do you feel?
Well, many are supporting Iran and I think this is a uh the majority across the world according to global public opinion.
The majority of people across the world that have been asked they support Iran and the public opinion in China supports Iran according to polls and the Chinese government, the Russians and and many others feel that uh this war on Iran is a threat to their own national security.
uh and uh the United States under Trump has become particularly rogue. So it's it's understandable the relationship between Iran and Russia and the Iran and China and Iran and other British countries is very good uh except for the Emirates but uh and so they they all side with Iran.
But um I think the most important thing though is that Iran won this war on its own basically and uh there's a a a new respect for Iran across the world that uh the Iranian people and the government were able to withstand this coalition uh against it because it was of course the superpower, the Israeli regime with all the weapons the West could give to it and these five regimes in the Persian Gulf, Oman and other countries in the region. They were siding with the Americans. I mean the Europeans maximum pressure sanctions on Iran. Turkey allowed the Americans to use their airspace for awax. I mean NATO Awaxs were being used to gather intelligence against Iran. US bases in Turkey were being used against Iran and the Republic of Azaba was assisting the Israeli regime in America. And so uh despite this huge coalition uh that was working against it, the fact that they defeated the United States um not just brings about great pride among Iranians but uh it has created a lot of respect across the world and Chinese leaders and Russian leaders and others have said this publicly.
One more for you, uh, Professor Morandi.
Uh, Donald Trump, uh, really seems to believe that he is supposed to usher in the end times prophecy, and it's it's hilarious at this point.
Like, he's really gone crazy. Um, but what's been really interesting to me is that even a number of of Christians are falling for this, whereas I don't know if you ever read the the Bible, but it says in the Bible that no man knows when that is going to happen. um and that it is not something that you can bring about. Right? So, but a lot of people are falling for this. He's going around telling people that he was put here by God um and he's supposed to make this happen. And to me, at this point, when I look at all of his foreign policy decisions, it seems like he's he's actually trying to move in that direction. Um they want to invade Cuba now. I don't I don't know if you heard about that. they they're talking about that. I really do think Donald Trump is going to try to bring about World War III uh to try to get to this end times prophecy, but I think this is all just going to blow up uh in his face. And I'm I'm curious your perspective about that, this whole religious aspect to it where he feels as though he needs to bring in the end times.
>> Yes. Um I I've read the Bible, of course, uh especially since I studied literature. So uh the Bible is is key uh to uh an understanding of English literature.
You know any Christian who thinks that Christ supports genocide or condones genocide in my opinion is an enemy of Christ.
Wittingly or unwittingly or knowingly or unknowingly they're an enemy of Christ.
uh Christ Jesus would never uh condone genocide and never uh even say it's a necessary evil. Uh so um they're not Christians and they're deceiving themselves and to to to us as Muslims and especially Shia Muslims because Shia Muslims consider uh Jesus as one of the infallible prophets. And uh so it's particularly insulting for us for anyone to use Jesus to justify the the extermination of the Palestinian people, the extermination of the people of southern Lebanon because that is what's happening. And um what these so-called Christians are doing is unfor unforgivable and they're waging war against Christ.
Professor Miranda, thank you so much for your time.
>> Thank you very much for having me, Sabrina. It's always a great honor.
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