Will Witt Educates Pro-Migrant Liberal Student!

Added: 2026-05-09

[00:00:00]I'm incredibly pro immigration.

[00:00:02]Okay. Obviously, my family >> immigration?

[00:00:04]>> Oh, no. I mean immigration, legal immigration, illegal immigration. Uh just people coming over here. I think one of my main problems with this whole argument with illegal immigration is that we spend billions of dollars on ICE. Uh yet these immigration services are super underfunded. Um it takes immigrants 10 plus years to get a uh legal immigration here. And then we kick them out before they can. Uh I feel like instead of spending all this money on ICE, uh we spend it on getting people here legally, making ICE's job a lot easier because these people are coming here to work. Well, well let me ask let me ask you this question. Why do you want more people to come here? Because uh we're the United States of America.

[00:00:38]Everyone immigrated here. We're a land of immigrants.

[00:00:40]>> No, we're we're we're a land of settlers and then we had immigrants when something was already built.

[00:00:44]>> But how did the settlers get here? They immigrated here.

[00:00:46]>> No, they settled here. There was nothing here, so they settled here. They built No, it's not It is This is semantics are important because the settlers from Europe came in here, settled the land, built something, and that is completely different than immigrating here. Okay, but what about my I I'm an Irish immigrant. I came here after the potato famine.

[00:01:01]>> would be an immigrant, right? But the original people who were in this country settled this country and then people immigrated here later. The original people were settlers. Other than the settlers, the majority of people here still immigrated here. Pre or post settlement? My immigration My family came here. They said, "Oh, I want to work here." It was that easy.

[00:01:17]>> came here legally.

[00:01:17]>> Yeah. They came here but do you know how easy it was to come here legally 100 150 years ago? Now they got to wait 10 plus years. I I hear so many people >> there's also some some use to that. You know, back in the day they had literacy tests and English tests for the people who are coming into this country. They don't have that now.

[00:01:33]Yeah, and I >> These are the kind of things that have were safeguards on America for actually the people that you allowed into this country. But you know, the safeguards are not there anymore and there should be more safeguards and then maybe it'd be an easier process.

[00:01:42]Yeah, and I agree I I I don't think we should just like open borders. I think open borders you can't vet you can't vet like any immigrants. Obviously, if you have people coming in committing crimes that you can't enforce, that's a huge problem. But also, 10 plus years. I think we we have these um these vetting processes, but it should be 10 times easier to get through these vetting process. I think like again, I I know people I came here that spent multiple years working here. They work extremely hard. They work harder than even me, yet they aren't seen the same as me as a citizen. Um, but yet they just can't come in because of our systems that these systems that they're kind of stuck in limbo becoming an immigrant. I understand. My question to you is if these people are such hard workers and good people in doing this, why don't they go to the back to the country they came from and make that place better with all their hard work?

[00:02:23]Because it's it's a systematic issue. I can't change that.

[00:02:27]The same way I can't change uh, the US politics the way they can't change their own politics. I as an individual person, I can vote. I can do what I can, but my decision does not have a broader turn like a broader range of like effects because I don't have money. I don't have power. I don't have that like political influence to make these changes. They don't have that influence. They don't have that power. They don't have that money. Right. So, with legal immigrants, I can I can see your point and I'm and I'm with you. Illegal immigrants, obviously not. But the world America is not the bastion of the world that everyone has a right to come here, right? Not everyone has a right I mean, you don't have a right to come to America if you don't live here. That's just the way it is. If I were to go into Mexico right now and just say, "Oh, I'm going to live here." They'd kick me out and send me back.

[00:03:05]Right? And they'd be right to do so because it's not it's not my country. I don't pay taxes in that country. I'm not a citizen of that country. I don't contribute to the country. It'd be the exact same thing. I think America is the bastion of the world. This country, we've had multiple waves of settle not only settlers but immigrants just coming in. Some of the greatest US minds are immigrants that came here from different countries, whether it was Einstein who was a German settler, whether it was like I said all all our great athletes who, you know, are different ethnicities around the world. You look at pretty much all our pro leagues like all of them are immigrants. We have so many people >> you. I'm with you on the on the legal immigrant. I can see your total point there. And the legal immigrant for the most part is going to be fine if the people are going through the right process. Now, to say that we need to make it easier to allow more people in here, I would disagree with you. I don't think it's necessarily necessary.

[00:03:52]Necessary necessary. I think that America is pretty full.

[00:03:56]And the people who are already in this country are suffering. And I want to take care of the people who are in America who are suffering before we let people more people in. From the 1940s to the 1960s, we didn't have basically any immigration to this country, illegal or legal. And it was one of the biggest economic booms in our country's history after World War II.

[00:04:13]And we just made this country better during that time. But I I feel like >> we opened the floodgates. I feel like attributing immigration to economic boom or decline is just kind of not the right correlation. Uh They're completely correlated. If you have two houses, if you have two houses, and then someone comes in legally or illegally, and there's already two people wanted to buy it, and now you have a third person, that's puts a demand on the market. I mean, it's just basic economics.

[00:04:35]>> build a third house and you have more people coming in buying stuff, creating more jobs, creating uh more businesses, there's more money in circulation, more money coming in. It's not like, "Oh, they're only taking houses." If I can't afford a house as a US citizen, what do you think a someone from El Salvador coming here with nothing in their pockets can afford a house over me? It's not But in the sense, you were not just a country of GDP and and economics, we're a country of values, right? And if people are you're saying, you know, some guy from El Salvador, for me, it's a problem when I look at California and a majority of the the young people under the age of 30 speak Spanish and don't speak English very well.

[00:05:08]That's a problem. It's a problem that these people don't speak English. I I personally don't I mean, I I I guess that's just where we >> I I How can Well, of course, if But if you were here right now and I spoke Spanish and you only spoke English, we wouldn't be able to have this debate. What kind of country is that? It's a country of uh diversity. If If >> diversity is not a good thing. If you're If people in your own family couldn't speak the same language, would that be good?

[00:05:30]If we had a method of communication I could have someone translate to me, I can talk to them. What makes it different >> a translator in your family? I I don't If If I can communicate with them I can talk to them, it doesn't make them less human. It doesn't make us different.

[00:05:41]We're still human.

[00:05:42]>> but you can't If you can't have a common culture, a common communication with your neighbors, then then then then they're not your neighbors.

[00:05:48]They're foreigners in your land. If you can't communicate with them by speaking with them, they're not your neighbor.

[00:05:54]And I feel like there's so many like not only there's so many values that just transcend this language barrier. I feel like there's so many ways to communicate other than just language and there's so many ways to form camaraderie other than language. I don't think human interaction is just oh, if you speak the same language or if you don't.

[00:06:11]You can speak whatever language, I'm going to find a way way to relate. I'm going to find a way to become friends with you. I feel like that shouldn't be difficult.

[00:06:18]>> I went to Japan and I went all around the country and I can tell you it was so difficult to get around that country because I can't understand a word that they are saying in Japanese. Yeah. And so now you have people who are coming into this country who can't understand the things that I'm saying.

[00:06:32]That is wrong.

[00:06:34]The people who should be coming here should be able to speak English, right?

[00:06:37]That should be part of the test that if you're coming to be a legal immigrant into this country, you should speak English.

[00:06:42]But >> That builds a cohesive culture of people who can communicate, who can do business, who can get things done.

[00:06:47]That's what happened with all the immigrants that you're talking about.

[00:06:49]Irish immigrants, these people assimilated into the culture. The German immigrants, the Austrian immigrants, the the English immigrants, the Italian immigrants, they assimilated and they spoke the same language and it worked really well. But if you have people coming in who don't speak the same language, who don't have the same values, then I don't want you here. I want to take care of the Americans who are suffering before people who don't share the same values and don't share the same culture or language. It's kind of weird to tell them, "Hey, you need to learn another language." when I only know one language. I understand because we Why is that wrong? We don't have a national language. Like it's not >> We should and it should be English. I I I guess that's where we disagree, but >> if I go to another country, I shouldn't expect them all to learn English.

[00:07:25]Should I go to Mexico and expect all the Mexicans to learn English to to make me feel better?

[00:07:29]I mean, a lot a lot of people >> course not. I mean, it's a ridiculous question. So, if you come to America, you learn English. If I go to Mexico, I learn Spanish. If I go to Japan, I learn Japanese.

[00:07:38]And again, it's it's just >> That's what culture is. That's how the culture is.

[00:07:40]>> I understand that. I think we just have a different outlook in American culture.

[00:07:43]American culture I yeah, like I said, I I I I appreciate the diversity. I consider us a very diverse um again, multiple languages, multiple races, uh multiple backgrounds, and I don't mind that. I think if I can't communicate with everyone in my nation, that's fine. Uh as long as you're a good good person, trying to work, doing a good job. Um the other thing about you were talking about suffering like you need we need to prioritize American suffering. Um I I don't like this rhetoric um of that these immigrants are directly leading to American suffering and not the wealth disparity. I think uh if you look at the '50s economic boom, you look at the wealth disparity in the '50s, it was the closest it's ever been. And ever since then, it's just becoming bigger and bigger, and the American have American people have only been suffering more and more. And I think that's where the main issue is.

[00:08:26]>> agree with you. And I think legal immigration is one part to play to that.

[00:08:29]But I think those people like you're talking about, I'm going to assume, you can tell me if I'm wrong, but like you're basically saying that there's these people at the top who are getting richer and richer, and the wealth disparity is getting worse and worse.

[00:08:38]Those people at the top, those rich people, they love illegal immigration.

[00:08:42]They love it because it disrupts the country, and it makes people poor.

[00:08:45]Illegal immigration leads to a net loss for the country. By having these people come in, I mean, it's just basic economics. If you flood the country with people, then you're going to depress wages. And so we're talking about the wealth gap and all this kind of stuff.

[00:08:56]If the wages for normal working class people are depressed because illegal immigrants come in and depress those wages, you're going to have big issues.