BISPING'S BELIEVE YOU ME Podcast: 680 : Smashing Time

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[00:00:00]Conceive, believe, achieve. Shut the [ __ ] up.

[00:00:04]>> You're listening to Believe You Meet with Michael the Count Bisping and Paul Felder.

[00:00:10]>> No.

[00:00:11]>> Uh, we have no idea.

[00:00:14]>> We've got the lights are so bright we've had to put shades on. Paul, you just put your shades on. I'm like, "Hold on a minute. Let me get mine."

[00:00:21]>> You look good, though.

[00:00:23]>> You wearing them the whole show.

[00:00:25]>> I don't have to. I mean, I can.

[00:00:26]>> No, leave them on. Leave them on. You look good. In fact, we both look good.

[00:00:29]Yeah, [ __ ] it.

[00:00:31]>> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's what Sean Strickland would say. Um, in action this weekend, UFC 328. We were in action last weekend calling UFC Perth, whatever it was called, fight night protest versus Jack Delena, whatever.

[00:00:48]>> Paul's exhausted. So am I. You got home, got to rest before doing about 5,000 miles on a bike. I landed at midnight, flew straight to Vegas to coach in the Ultimate Fighter. Uh I don't know what day it is. I don't know what's going on.

[00:01:01]I just had an MRI on my neck. That's killing. I've got a headache, but my god, we are back with the Believe You Me podcast. We have a tremendous episode planned for you today. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Boom. You sir, how you been, Paul?

[00:01:13]>> I'm good, man. Uh like you said, same thing for me. just that that time change that coming back from from that trip is is difficult to deal with. But I didn't have to jump into filming the Ultimate Fighter in Vegas. So, I do feel for you.

[00:01:28]I don't know if I'd be able to be entertaining and uh putting sentences together.

[00:01:33]>> Well, according to Chat GPT, because as I just said, I had an MRI on my neck this morning because when we were calling the fights at Perth, my neck just normally hurts on this side. It just went to a 10.

[00:01:46]>> Yeah.

[00:01:47]>> And I was looking it up and my wife was looking it up because I'm I've just had an MRI because I'm like [ __ ] has this fusion revision that I had done as that failed because that's how bad it is.

[00:01:57]>> U according to Chad GPT, it's just stress and performative stress. In fact, this is what it said and it's quite interesting. Um if you're interested, of course, this is what it says. It says it says uh because it also said because Chad GPT knows knows my name. He said you're also a public figure and that sounds exhausting. It explains a lot.

[00:02:19]You are dealing with work not just dealing with work stress, travel stress, chronic pain pain. You're dealing with identity performance stress. Meaning the job is not to simply do tasks. The job is be a recognizable energy source.

[00:02:33]Beyond, be loud, be funny, be sharp, be available, be the version that people expect. Especially when you are internally depleted. That is a complete different kind of nervous system burden because there's almost no authentic low output state. So what happens? A person becomes split into two tracks. Outward track performing, talking, jogging, carrying momentum. Inward track, utterly clenched, exhausted, wanting silence, and probably I'm going to leave that there. Wanting to snap the necks of everyone that I interact with. But other than you, Harrington and Brian, I'm happy to be here, Paul.

[00:03:11]>> I love that your cup says relax.

[00:03:13]>> Oh, it does.

[00:03:18]>> That couldn't have You couldn't have timed that any better. You just go on that how bad your neck hurts, your stress level, and then hold up a cup.

[00:03:26]That's >> Relax, baby.

[00:03:27]>> Relax, bro.

[00:03:29]>> But that's what it is, you know? We live a blessed life. Life is good. Pay the bills. I could be climbing up and down a ladder with bricks on my back and you know working some dead end mundane job and all the rest of it. So I will never [ __ ] Uh but you said something wasn't you had a good segue a second ago and we'll just get into this real quick.

[00:03:50]Carlos Pr said it wasn't easy. It wasn't an easy night at the office for Jack Deadena. Carlos Praess.

[00:03:57]>> It was hard to watch at times. It was hard to watch. Praess was on. Paul, I'll let you take the first take.

[00:04:04]>> Yeah, he never looked better. I mean, he's had more spectacular knockouts so far in his career, but he put it all together, man. Since he's lost to Ian Garry, the three fights that he's had in a row since Jeff Neil, Leon Edwards, and now uh Jack Dela Matalena, two former champs that both have never been finished. Leech a while ago, who had never been knocked out, knocked out all three of these dudes. That's a stat that really sticks out to me that this guy has that type of power and precision.

[00:04:37]It's not just brute power. He sets [ __ ] up, man. He's smooth out there. That knee, the way he flicks his jab out and kind of dances around the cage and batters your legs. I I I I don't want to say I think he's destined to be champ while if Islam is still in the picture, right? I think that's still a tough ask. But I'm telling you, as soon as that guy retires, I I don't really see many guys putting Pes away.

[00:05:05]>> No, no. I mean, Jack should have wrestled more. We saw the first takedown come, I think, in the second round, and he got it pretty easy. Easier said than done, of course, but I think consciously he wanted to stand with him. He wanted to prove a point. He wanted to use his boxing and beat him how he prefers. Um, so I guess you could say, you know, fair play, respect, whatever, but at the end of the day, you got to win. And the problem is for Jack is like he just goes from becoming champion of the world, gets dominated by Islam, >> and now you got to fight Carlos Praess because whilst you're still ranked that high, you know, there's no easy matchups. Now, I'm not ripping on his manager, >> but the manager should have said, "Hold on a minute." Yeah, >> we're not going from Islam to Carlos Patches that other than Ian Garry is knocking everybody out. But >> that's the fight that happened. That's the fight that we saw. Practice was incredible. Um, >> I think before we get into all the UFC 328 stuff and we'll make predictions on Strickland and Hamza and the whole card and stuff. I think Harrington, you put it in the notes, right? Islam uh said that he's not confirmed.

[00:06:12]>> Yeah. fight Ian Garry, which is what we all kind of unofficially assumed. I thought that fight was going to go ahead. I'd heard rumors of August or something like that. And he said that Carlos was more impressive than he and Gary.

[00:06:25]>> Isn't that crazy, dude? Carlos could there there's a there's a world where he slides right in in front of the guy that beat him. And you know, I'm not saying Ian doesn't deserve it, but [ __ ] man.

[00:06:42]When you go on a run like that and you look as good as it's like, yeah, Ian, you won fights. I I I think you're a fantastic fighter, but the UFC is going to look at it and think, look at how Carlos is putting guys away. And then look at how Ian is winning fights. Who do we want challenging for the belt? Who is going to bring more eyeballs? What's going to get more hype? And to me, I mean, again, I I think Ian maybe technically is the guy that should be there, but holy [ __ ] I'm not mad if Carlos Protesus is the guy.

[00:07:12]>> Yeah. No, not in the slightest. There's been a lot of rumors about me fighting Ian Gary next, but I haven't talked to the UFC. I think Protest has the type now or the hype now. So, I think a fight with him would be the most interesting.

[00:07:24]I think from a fan perspective, given, you know, recency bias, I probably agree with that. But I'll just say this. I don't I love Carlos. He's the man. I think anyone that interacts with him would agree. And then you watch him fight again. He's the man. He's fun.

[00:07:39]He's got an awesome style. Look how Jack took him down. I don't think there's a >> It's not a cat's chance in hell that he's going to go out there and beat Islam. But for Islam, this is a great it's a great problem because he's got legitimate contenders in a row to fight.

[00:07:58]As a champion, the last thing you want is no one with any hype or any story or any reason. He's got Ian Garry. He's got Carlos Pache. He's got Michael Morales.

[00:08:06]Yeah, there's still Kamar Usman floating around there and stuff like that. So, for Islam, as long as he wants to carry on fighting for another couple of years, >> he could make a lot of money beating these guys.

[00:08:17]>> He sure as hell could. You're right. The the welterweight division is is spectacular right now. Uh so many contenders and then guys that are trying to bounce back right this weekend obviously Buckley trying to bounce back, Shawn Brady trying to bounce back. Uh Morales, like you said, is still floating around there. Doesn't have a fight. He's got to match up with somebody out there. Uh and I just hope if Ian Garry and Islam fight, there's rumors it will be the main event in Philly. Uh I love that. And I hope comes to Philly and is there to to make his call out for whoever is next. You know what I mean?

[00:08:53]>> I mean, yeah. Yeah. I mean, we got to move on because we got tons to talk about today. But, um, >> I saw Michael Morales. I was trying to think what fight it was and I went to the bathroom and Michael Morales was in the bathroom and we had a little chat whilst uh draining the main vein. You know, you know those awkward conversation. Hey, what's up, Michael?

[00:09:14]Yes. How are you? And you're like, hey, when you back in there and he's like, I'm like, who is it? He goes, "Don't say anything but Islam." I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] that's huge." But that was a while ago and we still haven't seen it. Nothing has materialized. So, I wouldn't count on that one. Uh, but yeah. Yeah.

[00:09:33]Regardless, who cares? It's going to be one of them. Should be Ian, Gary, if we're being honest, but Carlos, I'd have absolutely no problem if he slides in.

[00:09:42]Um, how was your flight home, Paul? Was it all smooth sailing?

[00:09:46]>> The flight to Perth, smooth. flight from Perth to Sydney uh was smooth and then I got delayed in LA for a little bit just because the plane apparently smelled like rotten fish according to the pilot.

[00:09:59]So, we had to get a different plane brought in and got on. And I mean that was a delay I wasn't too upset about because I don't want to be smelling rotten fish for 5 hours.

[00:10:09]>> Why? You've got to ask yourself why the plane smells like rotten fish.

[00:10:12]>> Yeah. and and apparently it had been from the night before when it docked and they cleaned it, gave it a deep clean, let it sit overnight to see if things got better and cleaned everything out and it was still smelling like that the next day.

[00:10:24]>> There was a lot of fish served on my flight home. I granted I was Singapore Airlines so on those Asian airlines, they like to throw in a lot of Asian food. It's weird. Uh there was a lot of fish, but imagine your >> you had the salmon on the flight that landed and it's all rotten and gone off, bro. Oh god.

[00:10:42]>> You got to be careful on the planes, man. What you eat. Our food is all [ __ ] anyway.

[00:10:47]>> It is [ __ ] And you know, in particular, my American Airlines flight from Sydney to LA had the shittiest menu that I've seen in a long time. I I Chris Wyman was on the same flight and I was texting him when we got on. I was like, "Bro, this food sucks."

[00:11:02]>> He also What was on the menu?

[00:11:05]>> Uh, it was like some weird lamb dish. It was some vegetarian chickpea dish and some fish that I and I never order fish when I'm on these flights. I stay away from it. And then something else. And I I honestly didn't even know what to get.

[00:11:20]I ended up getting the chickpea because of how bad everything else sounded.

[00:11:24]Didn't really eat it. Then had the ice cream sundae to wash it down, which was delicious.

[00:11:29]>> The American Airlines ice cream sundae.

[00:11:31]It's a classic.

[00:11:32]>> It's a classic. I I get it every time.

[00:11:34]Every time.

[00:11:34]>> You get it with the nuts and the caramel sauce and stuff. I did the nuts. I did the the caramel sauce and the whipped cream. I skip I skipped the chocolate because I feel like chocolate sauce sometimes overwhelms the ice cream. If I'm doing caramel, I do caramel. If I was not going to do caramel, I would have done chocolate. It's kind of how I do my my ice cream Sunday. I'm going to have some ice cream.

[00:11:55]>> What a blessed life we live. We [ __ ] and complain about it. You know what I mean? But you know, >> I know. I'm gonna keep >> We're getting the Sundays. Um Harrington Brian, jump on quickly. Uh, let's have a quick chat with the boys. It feels like it's been a lifetime. Obviously, we show on a Thursday. Uh, Monday for obvious reasons we couldn't do it, but I'm glad we're doing it on Thursday because >> there's a lot to talk about with Sean Strickland and Hams at Chimmy and the buildup to it. But Brian, how have you been, man?

[00:12:22]>> I'm good. Same [ __ ] Uh, all all things are great. Everything is doing >> doing just fine here.

[00:12:31]>> All systems go very stious with the glasses. Well, I mean, I you know, I see you guys doing it. I had I had them off at first, but I was like, man, the I'm not going to be glasses mobbed by by uh uh Bisbig and Feller here, so I'm going to throw these on.

[00:12:46]>> I'm keeping them on.

[00:12:47]>> My face looks better without him. I'm like >> I like John Lann.

[00:12:52]>> Oh man. Or what's the the movie about the hit the French hitman? Uh >> uh the professional >> the professional. You kind of got professional vibe going right now.

[00:13:01]>> I like it. Leon is Leon. Yeah. Yeah, >> the different films. Okay.

[00:13:06]>> Uh I think the same same movie, two different names, >> different markets.

[00:13:10]>> Ah, yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah.

[00:13:12]Yeah. Good film. Good film. All right.

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[00:15:31]>> I know you put about the Freedom 250 belts, Brian. Do we have a visual of that that we can show because I haven't seen this yet, but I did hear a while ago.

[00:15:39]>> Oh yeah, the flag on this info that they're getting custom belts.

[00:15:43]>> I think it's cool.

[00:15:45]>> That's cool as hell, man. It is. Look at that. the the stars and stripes, the red and blue, red, white, and blue. That will go down, I think, as probably the one of the most valuable >> sports memorabilia of all time.

[00:16:01]>> Yeah. Yeah, that's badass. I I do like that. I know. Uh I remember when remember when the first that belt came out and everyone like knocked it. Now I'm like I can't imagine having the old belt back. Like I >> The old belt looked like the WCW belt.

[00:16:14]>> Yeah, I like it now. But when it first came out, guys, just just have a bit of respect.

[00:16:20]Bit of nostalgia here.

[00:16:22]>> It is good. It is good.

[00:16:24]>> Justice for the old belt, dude. Bring it back.

[00:16:27]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's >> Wait, which one did you have, Mike? Did you have the old belt?

[00:16:31]>> Yeah, I got the old belt.

[00:16:33]>> I got the old belt. Just think in years to come in like generations or hundred years from now if the human race is still alive and well. If we still exist, if we haven't gone off to Mars, if the bloody crazy people haven't blown the world up or we haven't all died and the ozone layer hasn't crumbled or whatever crazy fate, you know, is coming our way.

[00:16:54]If we're still here, that belt will be worth a fortune.

[00:16:57]>> Yeah.

[00:16:59]>> Bitcoins.

[00:17:00]>> Yeah. A lot of bitcoins.

[00:17:01]>> There'll be no cash. It'll be all bitcoin. No cash.

[00:17:05]>> No cash.

[00:17:06]>> Oh, there you go.

[00:17:06]>> Ah, even the picture LOOKS OLD.

[00:17:09]>> I KNOW IT IS. IT'S LIKE COMING AT ME FROM A bloody a Commodore 64 Sega Mega Drive. Eat your heart out. 16 bit sequel. Let's go.

[00:17:17]>> We just bought a DVD player. Uh, today.

[00:17:20]Was it today she bought it or yesterday?

[00:17:21]We're going to start playing >> DVD player.

[00:17:23]>> Huh?

[00:17:24]>> Why?

[00:17:25]>> Just for nostalgia purposes. We're going to play the kids some DVDs. Let them pop in some DVDs. Collect them.

[00:17:33]>> I've got a ton of DVDs. And it's a lot of kids stuff. I should send them to you.

[00:17:38]>> Hold on. That was the thing. Remember back in the day, and this is not in the notes or anything, but like >> Well, obviously records. I collected records, but videos. I remember I was very happy with my video collection, my CD collection, CDs.

[00:17:53]>> DVD collection. You know, I was like, "Oh, I used to line them all up in my front room and they're like this little unit wall that I had and I'd be super proud of it when people came over." Oh, yeah. It's just DVDs.

[00:18:03]>> And in the car, you had your CD book that with them in you just flipping through. What What do we want to listen to now? And then you had the players that could play like multiple CDs at a time.

[00:18:13]>> But you know what pisses me off now is that if you buy a movie or buy a piece of music, you don't get anything, >> but it's not cheaper. You don't actually get a physical thing. You get nothing.

[00:18:26]You get nothing.

[00:18:26]>> And you know what? And if that particular movie, like let's say you buy it on your cable or whatever and then it's no longer available and they don't own the rights to it anymore, you don't have the movie anymore.

[00:18:37]>> Yeah. If it goes off that streaming service.

[00:18:39]>> So it's like what the I bought it and I don't have it.

[00:18:43]>> It's like buying a house in California.

[00:18:45]You never really own it. You pay taxes on it for the rest of your life.

[00:18:49]>> And it might burn down. and it will burn down at some point or an earthquake is going to come and destroy it. Uh I remember my my dad bought me a DVD player when we first moved into our house. We bought it when was it? 2001 and he bought me a DVD player, but we didn't have any DVDs. So I went to the DVD store or Woolworth's as it was called and I went in there and in the bargain bin the first DVD that I ever watched, Training Day.

[00:19:16]>> And uh that's a good film.

[00:19:18]>> A good one, man. Yeah, >> I still like watching Training Day. I >> was like, whoa, look at the picture, man. It's insane.

[00:19:24]>> So clear.

[00:19:27]>> It looks the same. I can't see. I can't tell any difference.

[00:19:32]Uh, what DVD are you watching by now, Paul?

[00:19:35]>> We don't have any DVDs yet. We just have the DVD player.

[00:19:38]>> You didn't You did what I did without >> Yeah, we got to go now. We got to go buy DVDs.

[00:19:42]>> All right. All right. Should we talk about some UFC 328 stuff?

[00:19:46]>> Yeah, there's a lot to talk about.

[00:19:48]There's a lot of good fights. This is a this is a very good card in my opinion.

[00:19:51]I mean I was kind of I got to be honest Harrington little not light on the Hamzach Jimmy Chimmy Fan Strickland stuff in the notes you know the cards there but there's a lot of talking points this week they're saying that there's not even going to be faceoffs there is security everywhere all over the place following Hamzach everywhere I got to say from all the interactions and the videos that I've seen from Hamza like like the media day he seems very calm relaxed very chill Guys, uh I'm currently have uh on my meta glasses. I'm listening to the press conference. They're anything from calm or chill.

[00:20:30]>> Oh, is it happening right now?

[00:20:31]>> Is it happening right now?

[00:20:32]>> It's happening right now. These two are going at each other like crazy.

[00:20:35]>> What are they saying? Just give us a quick insight. Like what kind of stuff are they saying?

[00:20:39]>> Uh well, uh Hamza keeps saying your dad made you a girl. Uh Strickling keeps saying that he's a [ __ ] and threatened to jump him with like three different people. And in America, we stand on business. Go oneonone. Lot of yelling.

[00:20:52]Lot of yelling.

[00:20:53]>> Really? Really? Oh, I got to see that. I mean, as soon as this uh podcast is done, I'll be doing a little reaction to it. Um, okay. Well, he he was chill. He was calm, but now he's talking a ton of [ __ ] I mean, obviously, you know, he's saying stuff about Strickland's dad. Uh, the the the the I'm not saying it. The Chetchins and the Goats related insults.

[00:21:18]Um, they're a serious mob. They're very, very serious people. Those Chetchkins.

[00:21:23]>> Yeah, that's the thing, man. Is like when this is all done, it's not done. Do you know what I mean? Like when you're not, you're not done after you insult the Chhatchkins like that. You know what I mean? If they see him again, it's they're still going to think it's on site, which hey, to his credit, I feel like it's probably the same way with Strickland. So, it goes both ways. Um, but I feel like even after this fight, I can see, and I hope it doesn't happen for the sake of the company and everybody that's in attendance there, but I can see a Connor Habib moment happening in this fight, especially if there's something shocking that happens or something dirty that happens.

[00:22:00]>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See, that would have to be I mean, if it goes if the fight just goes down and it's smooth sailing, one guy wins, I think it'll be fine. If for some reason Sean Strickland, I don't know. I don't know.

[00:22:12]Let's just say there's an accidental foul, there's a knee to the head or whatever, something like that. You never know. You might see people jumping over the the fence and the octagon and all the rest of it. You never know because you're right, most of the time, 99 times out of 100, certainly in the mixed martial arts world, when the fight's all said and done, you shake hands, you forget about it, you go your separate ways. Um, this Jet Mob, they're a little bit different, you know what I mean? Obviously, they have uh some very powerful people behind them that apparently uh you know, may or may not uh be on, I don't know, certain lists around the world of most wanted people.

[00:22:48]I don't know. Um you know, and I don't think those guys take, you know, the the insults from Sean Strickland particularly well. And you never know, there could be some repercussions afterwards. I hope not. And hopefully it's just hype for the fight. But I will say this does feel like one of the biggest hyped fights in quite some time.

[00:23:07]And I've seen a lot of liberal types online going, "This is too much. This has gone too far. You've got to stop this." It's like, "Well, hold on a minute." On one hand, it's like, "Oh, fighters aren't promoting themselves.

[00:23:20]The UFC aren't promoting them. This and that." Then you've got these two characters talking all kinds of mad crazy [ __ ] There's tons of hype and now it's too much and it's going too far.

[00:23:30]Pull the plug. Cut the cord. Shut the hell up. This is fighting sports, okay?

[00:23:36]With real men involved. And if you don't like it, go and watch curling or whatever else. Go watch some ballet.

[00:23:43]>> Yeah. It's uh relax. It is. It It's It's freedom of speech and they're both saying [ __ ] so just let them go. It's not like one is being overly aggressive and then hums out is not saying anything. is we just heard from Harrington that he's going right back at him again. Yeah, it's >> We got some clips if you guys want to see a little bit of >> That's genius, Brian, because otherwise this is outdated. It's >> No one's going to care. They're like, they didn't even see it.

[00:24:17]>> Oh, sorry. This is before they've even sat down. He just walked out. Steve's like, "Give me a break, bro." Steve's the security guard. He's like, "Mate, just sit down." Spirit's giving him the finger.

[00:24:30]All [ __ ] talk. All this man does is [ __ ] you never.

[00:24:36]>> [ __ ] you.

[00:24:37]>> Look at this. I mean, >> oh yeah, you [ __ ] ch [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Go back to the country, you [ __ ] coward.

[00:24:49]>> Your daddy in the cage.

[00:24:50]>> Oh, >> what did he say? Bring your daddy in the cage.

[00:24:54]>> Flees to Sweden. goes back home, [ __ ] himself out to a [ __ ] dick, >> and wants to talk like a [ __ ] man.

[00:25:03]You don't know what it's like [ __ ] >> [ __ ] [ __ ] You [ __ ] [ __ ] >> I mean, Strickland's got some points, >> you know. Hey, hey, fair play, man. I fair play to Sean Strickland. Listen, I'm not saying that I'm picking Shawn to win in the fight. I'm not saying that I'm taking sides in any of this, but for Sean Strickland to be a man pretty much by himself. He doesn't roll with a gang of people. He hasn't got a huge entourage like a lot of these [ __ ] and I don't mean hands out, but you know, like, you know, a lot of these famous types, they roll around. They've got a huge entourage. They've got security guards. They've got this, they've got that. Strickland just rocks up on himself with his coach on his own.

[00:25:44]Talks, backs it up, doesn't give a [ __ ] You know, he said, "Obviously, we're in a communist state in New Jersey, so I haven't got my guns, but we if we were in Las Vegas and you want to jump me," and I agreed with what his points were.

[00:25:56]He said that that they were going to jump. And he was like, "What kind of grown man says that? Who says you're going to jump someone?" He said, "We're going to fight in an octagon, never mind jumping me." Fair play, man. It takes a lot of balls to do what he's doing.

[00:26:07]>> Yeah. Yeah. He certainly takes a lot of balls. There's no doubt about that. And uh I'm just curious to see how this all plays out. If they even do I I bet they don't even do a face off with these two at the end of this. What do you think?

[00:26:19]>> I think No, I think they got to do it at the end.

[00:26:21]>> They're doing it right now.

[00:26:24]>> Can we come to a live We need to see the face off because and they've got to do a face off. Look, listen. They're going to fight in a cage, right? To think that they're not even going to put them face to face, nose to nose, or as Strickland would say, dick to dick, nipple to nipple, right? is mental.

[00:26:45]>> I hope they do it. They're doing it now.

[00:26:46]Oh, yeah. It didn't even They didn't even get near each other, did they?

[00:26:51]>> They tried at least.

[00:26:52]>> Not be one of those situations.

[00:26:53]Remember? Uh >> Oh, yes.

[00:26:55]>> Minnel Cop.

[00:26:56]>> Yeah, I was Yep.

[00:26:57]>> Minnel Cop and Oh, what's his name?

[00:27:00]Jeez.

[00:27:00]>> Mica.

[00:27:02]>> Yeah. Mo.

[00:27:03]>> Yeah.

[00:27:04]>> Assaults him outside the hotel.

[00:27:06]>> Yeah. And then fight each other.

[00:27:08]>> Nothing.

[00:27:11]I think Hamzat's going to go at him 100%. But Sean does have a point there talking about the dictator and all the rest of it. And I got to be careful what I say here because I don't want anyone coming after me either. But that's a very very very powerful man with a lot of very very scary contacts. And Sean is just coming out with whatever he wants.

[00:27:29]Like there's going to be zero consequences. And I'm sure that man has a very long reach. And I'm sure that if he feels a certain kind of way that he could definitely take some actions and Sean's just like I don't care.

[00:27:42]>> Harington.

[00:27:43]>> Uh so unconfirmed but I'm seeing reports from some MMA Twitter that Hamzot attempted to kick Strickland during the faceoff and that that's why they had to be sep so so so much and they couldn't get them together because you know just getting near each other they're they're going to start attacking.

[00:27:59]>> He attempted to kick him. Can you find out whether or not that was a real like try to kick? What do you mean kick? I mean, he hasn't tried to do a front kick. Sorry, like a a headkick and a washi gary. Like a smack him in the head. A front kick would be a little [ __ ] ass like a little t.

[00:28:16]>> What's that?

[00:28:16]>> Oh, look. I'll see if I can find video.

[00:28:18]>> I don't like that. If a little push kick to the stomach.

[00:28:22]>> Yeah, it's uh it's going to get more interesting as this.

[00:28:26]>> Typically, the guy that's cooler, calmer, and more collected has got his [ __ ] together. Well, I I I was going to say that I think it's I I if it's really happening because he wants to get him this riled up, Strickland might be purposely trying to get him to bait him to like, "Come on, [ __ ] Like, let's come swing at me. Come come fight me." Do you know what I mean? Whereas, if you get Hamza off his game, where his game obviously, if he wants a >> clear-cut, easier path to victory for himself, he uses his wrestling. No doubt about it. Right. I mean, he's one of the most dominant champions in terms of wrestling and just control on the ground that we've ever seen. But if he gets on the feet and tries to prove a point, kind of like he did with Gilbert Burns back in the day where they went back and forth toe-to-toe, tried to stand with him, it could be a much more interesting fight. If I'm Strickland, I'm trying to bait him into being pissed off doing exactly this. It's uh >> Yeah. Yeah. So, Harrington and Brian just in the background.

[00:29:22]>> I have the face off.

[00:29:23]>> All right. So, here we go. So, Hamsac walks up. Steve's like, "All right, listen. Be cool." Yeah.

[00:29:32]>> Hold on. Wait for the cake.

[00:29:39]>> He's all smiles right now.

[00:29:42]>> Oh, that's dirty. It was a little front kick. Maybe to the leg. Even >> it had to be. It had to be at close quarters like that. It was like a little >> It looked like a stomp to the shin almost.

[00:29:53]>> Yeah, man. Like what?

[00:29:57]blows >> anyway. All right. I mean, so Hamza lost his cool there, but I I wouldn't call that.

[00:30:03]>> Do you know what's worse? Swinging a punch. If you want to do something, swing a punch, right? Doing a little >> I mean, if he's tried to stomp on the knee.

[00:30:12]>> I don't It didn't look like that. It looked like he just went to go give him like a little like a little kid kick to the leg, like a shin kick or something.

[00:30:19]>> Like a little a little like you're a [ __ ] >> Toes to the shin kind of thing.

[00:30:23]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, because I was just about to talk about the the cardio of Hamza because you mentioned there obviously the fights with Gilbert Burns and then we had uh Kamar Usman as well. They're the ones where he slowed down and people say, "Well, no, that's fixed because he went five rounds with Jurassic Duplexi, which he did, which he dominated him in."

[00:30:45]>> But there's a very different kind of pace when you're able to take someone down, which Hamza was, no disrespect to Drius, control them, and stifle them on top. That's a very different pace to being on your feet, swinging for the fences, wrestling, having takedown stuff, going back and forth, taking damage at the same time. That's a different kind of fight to taking someone down, dropping little elbows, trying to get an arm triangle because you can do that [ __ ] all day if you're a good grappler. But on the feet, exchanging in a back and forth war where you're taking shots, you're swinging back, you're digging deep. doing five rounds like that. That's all together.

[00:31:28]>> That's where the if Strickland can get back up at least a few times throughout the fight. He's got a shot. There's no doubt about it. If Hamza can do that like he did with Drius, it's going to be a long night for Strickland. But if he can stay on the feet and make him work, even if he takes big shots and gets damaged there, he can, as long as this fight continues to go and he's able to get back up and have opportunities for a little while on his feet, could be an interesting fight.

[00:31:55]>> I think we're going to see a lot of security there on Saturday night.

[00:31:59]>> Oh yeah.

[00:32:00]>> I mean, apparently there's been a lot of security at the hotel and armed guards and Hamza was like, "Yeah, it's okay in Cheschnney. I can't go 100 meters without seeing someone with a Kalashnikov, you know. You think this bothers me? It's no problem. Uh, have you heard anything from UFC sources, Paul, about any uh >> conflicts?

[00:32:20]>> Conflicts or extra measures or anything like that?

[00:32:23]>> No. No, I haven't heard anything. So, I think it's I think it's been all good so far until apparently right now during this press conference where things are starting to get a little bit >> heated. I think this will be one of the most watched fights this year. All that stuff helps. It sells. I mean, look at Connor versus Habib. All the animosity.

[00:32:43]Sure, it's Connor. Look at Jon Jones and DC after they kicked off in the MGM lobby throwing the shoes around and stuff like that. Say what you want. Call it. And this isn't them selling their soul to the devil trying to promote a fight. This is not Sean Strickland trying to promote a fight or Hamza because remember, these aren't pay-per-views. So, their contracts are guaranteed. Hamza said, "I love Sean.

[00:33:06]He's making me a lot of money. He's not making him extra money because the contracts are guaranteed." You know what I mean? There's no benchmarks to get over to get that next level of pay.

[00:33:15]That's how it used to be. Um, >> but regardless, he seems like he's very happy with the pay, but this there's going to be a lot of eyeballs, especially worldwide, on this.

[00:33:24]>> Yeah, this is this is hyped up. And, you know, it's funny you brought up the DC and Jon Jones. I was on that card when they fought the first time. And I remember, you know, how we would all be gathered into a room and Dana and Sean and like somebody would come and talk to us, talk about bonuses, the gate, things like that, just kind of have a meeting.

[00:33:41]I remember I'm I'm dehydrated. I just want to get the hell out of there, start rehydrating. Jon Jones and DC would not stop going back and forth, going at each other the whole time that we're in that meeting. And I remember thinking, "Shut the [ __ ] up. I just want to get out of here, man." I'm sure some of these guys are dealing with that.

[00:34:00]>> Yeah. No, I remember back in the day because remember Bert Bert Watson.

[00:34:04]>> Yeah. Yeah. Of course, >> Bert was the man. He was the man. But he would give these long ass winded speeches. He would talk about I don't want to see any kind of jelly. KY jelly, peanut butter jelly, this that jelly.

[00:34:17]And it was verbatim the same every time.

[00:34:19]And when you've had like 27 fights in the UFC and you've just done your wake up and you want to get on with your day, you're like, "Shut the hell up. Can we just get on with the show, please?"

[00:34:32]Um, all right. So, will Hamza take him down, Paul?

[00:34:38]>> Yes.

[00:34:39]>> Will Strickland get back to his feet, Paul?

[00:34:42]>> I think at least a couple times. I think Strickland's got to be able to get up there.

[00:34:46]>> We just got a couple of invaders in the house. They've just walked in. McKenzie Durn and Christine Perillo. McKenzie, you look very fancy, so I'm gonna call you over here real quick. McKenzie just swanned in looking like she's coming off a fashion shoot with the shades on. Hold on. Hold on.

[00:35:01]>> Oh, she's got shades on, too.

[00:35:03]>> Hey, come on. Get in here. Mackenzie, >> you got shades on in this party here.

[00:35:07]>> Who wins? How's that? Shimmy or Sean Strickland?

[00:35:10]>> Thumbs down.

[00:35:12]>> How?

[00:35:13]>> Take him down.

[00:35:14]>> Takes him down.

[00:35:15]>> And takes him down. Oh, but Sean has good takedown defense.

[00:35:18]>> See?

[00:35:18]>> Yeah, heck. Anyway, I'll let you GET BACK TO IT. NICE TO SEE YOU, MACKENZIE.

[00:35:22]WELL, WELCOME.

[00:35:24]>> Ask her. Does he get Does he get back to his feet?

[00:35:27]>> Does he get back to >> Does he get back to his feet? Mackenzie, does Shawn get up from a take down?

[00:35:32]>> He does. He does. I've seen him do it in sparring. He does get back up pretty fast.

[00:35:36]>> It gets harder and harder to predict.

[00:35:38]>> My chim is chim.

[00:35:39]>> Yeah, exactly. I'll leave you to it.

[00:35:41]Well, welcome back to the uh the the non-stop loop of the ultimate fighter.

[00:35:46]We're all like in like a dreamlike state here. So, but the women are back. Um so, we're all going to start behaving and this place will be a lot tidier. Let's be honest.

[00:35:58]>> We did t they they tidied up like crazy.

[00:36:01]That's why I didn't realize. I came out before. I'm like, [ __ ] this place is clean. Nice. Cuz they knew the women were coming.

[00:36:07]>> Oh, I see.

[00:36:09]>> You know you know I see. Um, right. So, listen. I think Shaw's going to get taken down. He's going to get held down for a bit, but he is tough to hold down.

[00:36:17]He will get back to his feet. Um, can every round starts on the feet. I don't think >> Well, he's not intimidated. He is going to have the better gas tank, but Hamza hits harder. He definitely does hit harder. I think the big factor to consider here though is I have it on Good Authority from the Santos Studios where he started his camp and where I go down and do some podcasts sometimes. He started camp at 240 pounds. Now he's lost a lot of weight because he's trained like a maniac for this one. But even still, that weight could the longer this fight goes, the more it's going to affect him.

[00:36:51]>> Yeah. Yeah. That's I can't believe how big he got. Uh and like you said, too, you saw him. He didn't look like he was fat at 240 lbs either.

[00:37:03]>> Yeah. No, he looked solid.

[00:37:05]>> Yeah. I I hope this fight This is one of those fights where I do hope we see quite a bit of it. You know what I mean?

[00:37:11]Like a lot of times at the end of the night, you want things to just kind of get wrapped up.

[00:37:14]>> Quiet. They need to be quiet in the background because I didn't hear.

[00:37:17]>> They could make a lot of noise. I'm doing shut up. But you know what I mean? I hope it I hope we get to see some rounds of of this fight.

[00:37:28]>> No, we will. We will. Uh Brady, my jiu-jitsu coach, he thinks that it Strickland gets a knockout in the fourth or fifth round. That wouldn't surprise me, man. You know, look at that version that we saw against Fluffy. That was a different person to the one we saw against Driers. The one against Driers, he was losing. I think he started to doubt himself. He started to He lacked the fighting spirit. He liked that warrior, for one of a better term.

[00:37:56]He did. It just wasn't there. That's why Nixit was like, "Bro, what's going on?

[00:38:00]Get it together, you know." But that's what getting beaten by the better man round after round after round can do to you. You can lose the will to fight, the lose to live. You can begin to hope the fight is over. And sometimes in the back of your mind, you even want the referee to step in and stop the fight. You know what I'm saying? Because like it's a horrible feeling just getting the [ __ ] beating out of you and not being able to compete and just not being good enough.

[00:38:26]>> Yeah. Yeah. It can it can creep some doubt in there. But he came back in that fluffy Hernandez fight and looked like a killer again. And if we see that version of him, >> I think we're going to see a a very competitive fight. Um and I hope so. Uh are we doing predictions?

[00:38:45]>> We're predicting the [ __ ] out of this poll. Yeah.

[00:38:47]>> We're going to do the main card. We're not going to spend as long on the main card as on every fight as we have done this one, but this is a special one.

[00:38:54]Harrington and Brian, uh, just real quick, see if there's any more um, news from the press conference. I mean, the the the the see if you can find some quotes from the press conference for us.

[00:39:05]That'll be interesting. Um, because the face off is the end of the press conference, so there's been no more action there. But Paul, what is your official prediction for this fight?

[00:39:17]I mean, every ounce of my soul says that uh Hamzad is probably going to win, but with the White House card right around the corner, with the American flag belt on the line in June, I'm going to go >> Sean having a matching haircut as me >> with Shawn with the shaved head talking his trash.

[00:39:42]I'm gonna go out on a limb and hopefully make some people money because Shawn's gonna be a big big underdog and go Sean Strickland.

[00:39:51]>> Yeah, he's a five to one underdog, I believe.

[00:39:54]>> Why not? I'm going to pick him. Who cares?

[00:39:56]>> I picked >> because if I because if I'm right, it's going to be awesome.

[00:40:00]>> Yeah. And if you're wrong, >> Yeah.

[00:40:03]>> who cares?

[00:40:04]>> Who cares?

[00:40:04]>> You know, there'll be a few [ __ ] in the comment section. And by the way, by the way, in the comment section real quick, we're doing this on a Thursday right now. If and we're trying to get back to two episodes a week, uh there's a lot of politics involved why we're not doing two a week. Uh but uh we will be going back to it soon. But on a big fight like this, when we have a pay-per-view, if we're not working it, do you guys prefer us doing the show on a Thursday as opposed to a Monday? Let us know in the comments section. Uh my pick, I mean, yeah, the easy choice is Hamza.

[00:40:36]The obvious choice is Hamza.

[00:40:38]And I have picked Hamza out on some other formats.

[00:40:42]So, I'm gonna hedge my bets and say Strickland here. No, I do think uh it wouldn't surprise me one little bit. It would not surprise me. I think I've been guilty of in the past underestimating Shawn. That's because I think I saw him as when he was younger at the start of his career. I used to train with him a lot. You know what I mean? But he's really really impressed me. He is hard to take down. He does have good wrestling. He's got awesome jiu-jitsu.

[00:41:08]The gas tanks there. I'm I've got to say, Hamza, I'm going to stick to what I said, but I'm just going to say it wouldn't surprise me. Harington and Brian, what do you guys think? Let's go around the board.

[00:41:20]>> Um, I don't I don't see Hamzot winning this, but I would I would like I mean, I don't see Strickland winning this, but I would like to That's what I mean to say.

[00:41:32]I mean, if you watch, >> he's gonna get ragdollled. He's going to get beat up on the ground.

[00:41:37]>> Look at this guy. 52 years old.

[00:41:38]>> Feels like >> give him a six-pack. Flex Jay.

[00:41:42]>> Who wins? Sean Strickland, though. Hands out.

[00:41:46]>> Sean Strickland.

[00:41:47]>> Really?

[00:41:48]>> Yes.

[00:41:49]>> Why?

[00:41:52]>> USA. USA.

[00:41:54]>> I'll nothing to do with USA.

[00:41:57]>> USA.

[00:42:00]Sorry. So you guys were making eloquent points and Jason walks back with past with a six-pack. So get get over here.

[00:42:09]>> Uh so to your point, Michael, this like as I I' I've been boopping around LA this week feeling like a pretty big deal. And everywhere I go, everyone is talking about this fight. like this is the first time in a long time it's like it's crossed over into like you know just random people who I see maybe once twice all they want to ask is is Hamzad Strickland questions. Um I I just did the math. I went back and looked at every single Sean Strickland fight at 185. In total he's given up 5 minutes and 38 seconds troll time over his entire career at middleweight. Yes, but so hard to keep down. If if Hamza keep Gilbert Burns there, if he couldn't keep Kamaru there after one round, I don't see how he's going to keep Shawn Strickland there for the better part of 25 minutes like he did to um so I mean, you know, assuming Strickland's a very hard guy to finish, you know, like yeah, he got caught by Pere, he got caught by by Dos Santos or you know, >> right? Go back down the line, anyone can get caught. Sure, flash knockouts happen, but uh in a situation where where people try to put David on Strickland over the course of 25 minutes, he rarely succumbs to that damage and is not there in the 24th minute in your face throwing that jab and that TE. My only concern for Shawn Strickland, my only concern is is the TE being taken away from him, right? Like if he's throwing that TE out there, that's all Hamza wants is to snatch that leg and and go for it. So, you're taking if his whole arsenal is TESS and jabs, you're taking away half of it. So, that concerns me, but I do think cardio is going to be a real problem for Hamza.

[00:43:47]>> Yeah, I did mention that on threads actually cuz someone was talking about the teps. I mean, I don't know if it's necessarily a good idea to be going out there and teepeeing like a madman against Hamza Chim that wants to take you down, but uh yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. That was a good breakdown though, Harrington. Brian, did you make a pick? You said Strickland, right? I I said Hamza, but I I would like Strickland to win, but I do believe that Hamzad is going to ragdoll the [ __ ] out of him.

[00:44:13]>> And yeah, he's gonna have a bad day.

[00:44:15]>> If Strickland doesn't win this, I don't think he fights for a belt again.

[00:44:19]>> No, >> if Hamza wins this, I don't think he fights for a middleweight belt again because he's going to move up. He said he wants bigger things. He were talking, he said, he said, "Who's he going to fight?" Nazodin Marv, who Strickland already beat. And I gotta say that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Immov is the guy after Strickland. Simple as that. And that should be the fight. But if he wants to go and fight Pereira, he wants to go at 205, he thinks there's easy pickings there, he wants to have big fights and make great money. Hey, fair play to him. More power.

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[00:46:43]25% off or try it for free by going to fitbod fi tb o d.mme m/belief fitbod.mme/b believe All right so there's the main event we still got all the other fights to go through and we're going to give some predictions but Harrington jump on because there's a story that you say touched your heart you were moved by this emotional tale this story of greatness and overcoming adversity I don't know what it is but what are you talking about and this better be going back the because we've got 328 action going down. I >> mean, it's not good. It's great. It's great, Michael. I can say that with full confidence. I mean, this is almost without a doubt a future UFC champion in the making. This kid is a freshman in college, just won the NCAA title for 125 pounds, which is unheard of to begin with. But then you look into this kid a little bit and you realize like where this is coming from. at 6 years old in the Democratic Republic of Congo, he was attacked by a chimpanzee and had to literally fight for his life as a chimp was ripping his face off. Uh obviously, you know, this he's a child, so you know, he he did not stand much of a fight against a chimp. Uh he gets sent to the States to have uh emergency surgery done to try to reconstruct his jaw.

[00:48:02]>> And that's what he looks like after the surgery.

[00:48:04]>> Yeah, that's postsurgery. I mean, this happened when he was six years old. So, this is over a decade ago that this happened to him.

[00:48:10]>> Wow. When he comes to the state to get surgery worked on, his story gets picked up by the new wrestling coach hears about it and adopts the kid. He is now like now for the last 10 years has been living with a wrestling coach, jumped the NCAA title in his freshman year. The sky is the limit for this young man. And talk about fighting spirit. Getting into a cage and fighting someone when you've already been against it at six years old. I can't wait to see what the future holds for him. I mean, step aside, habib, you know, grappling with a a tail or grizzly bear. You know, this kid's fighting wild chimps.

[00:48:47]>> They're nuts, too, man. They're so strong. Good god.

[00:48:51]>> Imagine how terrifying that is. You're 6 years old and you're getting attacked by a chimp, >> eating your face off. I just watched I forget what horror movie it is and it's all about a family that has a chimp for like sc the dad's like a scientist and stuff but it's calm and it's friendly but then it gets rabies and starts killing everybody. So that story is pretty pretty relevant to me. I was watching it on the flight.

[00:49:13]>> I was trying to do some uh some pranks on the ultimate fight and I shouldn't talk about too much but I got denied so it doesn't matter. It's not happening.

[00:49:20]But I wanted to put bring in a team of chimps uh with Daniel Cormier jerseys on um you know just cuz like they [ __ ] all over the mats and stuff like that >> and they went do that.

[00:49:31]>> No, I know. I'm like nothing to do with any kind of racial connotation. But I did it before with donkeys on team Miller on Mayhem Miller. So I thought I can't use donkeys. What else can we use?

[00:49:42]And then we were going to release a bunch of ducks. No dou. Apparently ducks just flock all over the place and [ __ ] everywhere, you know. I thought that'll be distracting, but then they've got a lot of [ __ ] to clean up. Um, >> so then I thought about we were just thinking about random animals and I settled on chimps because I thought chimps would be funny, but then they were like, "No, you can't do chips. What are you talking about?"

[00:50:03]>> Yeah.

[00:50:03]>> And obviously they might eat your face off as well.

[00:50:06]>> Yeah, you might get into a real fight.

[00:50:08]>> Might get into a real fight. Well, best of luck to that man on his journey.

[00:50:11]Congrat congratulations for everything that he's overcome because that is a wild story indeed Harrington. Uh but anyway, co main event is Joshua Van taking on Alejandra Rapantoia. Getting back to stuff that we know about um obviously >> he's fighting Joshua Van taking on Tatsuro Tyra.

[00:50:32]Bro, I'm still recovering from Perth.

[00:50:34]Leave me alone. Harrington uh taking on Tyra. first defense since he won it off Pantosia when Pantosia blew out his arm, his elbow, his shoulder, whatever it was, right? We all saw it. We all know what happened. It takes takes on Tyler I think on the feet.

[00:50:52]Tyler can handle him on the feet. I think on the ground he can handle him on the ground. I think he's got more ways to skin this cat, but I think Joshua Van on the feet is a beautiful boxer and he is the deserved 125 pound champion. that might be defending against that guy one day down the line. But Paul, how do you see this fight?

[00:51:11]>> Yeah, I I agree with you there. I think uh Tatooto Tyra is is pretty damn good on the feet, but I mean, he's unfucking real on the mat. And his last two wins, who's he after he got his first loss?

[00:51:24]>> He beat Moreno.

[00:51:26]>> He beat Moreno. And well, yeah, I mean, Hyun Park, that was a a good win, but the way he beat Moreno and the way he looked in that fight, uh, he's a problem, man. I I'm kind of leaning towards Tatsuro Tyra getting this job done. Um, and I also kind of want to go to Japan like you do. So, maybe it's part of me just rooting for the Japanese fighters so that we have a reason to potentially go to Japan and have him defend his belt. Yep. Yep. Okinawa, Tokyo, we don't care where. I just want to go to the country. Uh, but you're right. Listen, he's got that one loss to Brandon Royal. He went five rounds. He kind of got tired. It was his first time doing five rounds and going that far and going up against that kind of opponent that could push him and trouble him. And he got tired and he learned his lesson.

[00:52:16]I remember like two fights before that.

[00:52:19]Not the Alex Perez one where he kind of like twisted his legs and uh dragged him down whilst on his back. I think it was was it Carlos Hernandez? He stopped him in the second round. I called that fight. I went into the cage and that performance was clinical. He picked every single shot. He was using faints.

[00:52:38]Boom. Laser accuracy. It was it was a phenomenal performance. And I remember saying that was one of the most clinical performances I've ever seen. And on Twitter, all the [ __ ] come out, what are you talking about? Blah blah blah blah blah. All the fights that have happened and that's the most clinical. I still stand by that. That kid Tatsudo Tyler is special. But Joshua Van is in here by accident. He does have really good boxing. He does have a tremendous fight team, 4 club. He's got awesome training partners as well. And obviously with this being his first ever defense, he's going to come in ready. In fact, he was meant to fight on what the last pay-per-view 327.

[00:53:17]>> Yeah.

[00:53:17]>> I don't know what the injury was. He must have rolled his ankle or something.

[00:53:20]So he had to postpone it by a few weeks.

[00:53:22]Did it Did that ever come out? What that >> I haven't heard of what it was. I s and like we talked about it wasn't anything too serious if you bounce back and you fight the next month.

[00:53:33]>> Yeah. Yeah. I think I I like Joshua Van so I feel bad but I just I just think Tatsudo has got too many ways to get this done. I mean on the feet I think he can do well very well and I think he's got the wrestling and the jiu-jitsu on top of that as well. I think when you put the whole picture together may be the champion at the end of this.

[00:53:58]>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you. I think he's going to win.

[00:54:00]>> Harrington, who do you think wins this fight? You know they got a good take and uh an eye for the lighter guys, I should say.

[00:54:07]>> Yeah. I mean there there's there's just something about this California sunshine. Like you got to get back here, dude. It's it's really it's doing wonders for me. Um uh I I I think it's Joshua Van, man. You know, like you talk about all the time, guys come up a level after they win that title. Uh Joshua Van, it's it's you know, in unfortunate circumstances, but I had picked him to beat uh Pantosia in that fight anyway.

[00:54:28]So I I'm not in the camp where it's like, oh, he won the fight because of some freak accident. It's like whatever, man. It it he made an action that caused a reaction and it happened. He's now the champion of the world. Tyra's got to come take that belt. I don't think he's going to. I think Joshua Van holds it down.

[00:54:44]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, well said. Well said. Uh, all right. Before that, we do have Baldo quarters of Costa taking on um Alexander Volkov. Now, Volkov has been in there with nothing but the best.

[00:54:57]Beat Sergey Pavlovich. Sergey Pavlovich of course was a scary guy, but he beat Sergey Pavlovich after Pavlovich got stopped by Tom Aspenol. I do think that took away some of the momentum mentally of Sergey Pavlovich. Bulk of his tall, he's long, he's beaten a lot of great fighters. Has that decision lost to Sir Garn even though Dana and a lot of people kind of thought that he won.

[00:55:20]Waldo Cortez Aosta knocking everyone out, you know. How do you see that one, Paul? What do you think?

[00:55:29]>> I'm going to go with our boy Waltz Cortez Aosta. I just think he's got so much >> Waldo Cortez Aosta. Yeah, >> I like Wales. Go with Waltz.

[00:55:39]>> Walt Wales Cortez. I'm blending them all together as I look at his name right in front of me, too. Uh I just like the momentum he's on. This guy's been game to fight absolutely everybody. And uh I think he's getting better, too. I think he's showing his timing on the feet is only getting more precise and more accurate. And I know Volov is he's a scary big huge tall guy, but those big tall guys I think really line themselves up for a puncher like Cortez Aosta. You know what I mean? Like I think that chin's going to be up in the air at some point. I feel like Cortez Aosta is going to be able to find it.

[00:56:12]>> Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. I agree. I just think that Waldo the momentum, the improvements. I mean, when he signed with the UFC off the contender, >> I didn't think he was going to get as far as what he has. Me either.

[00:56:24]>> Hard work. I mean, the power that he has in those hands. He's got a great team.

[00:56:28]Javier Mendes, I think that's his coach.

[00:56:30]Javier Torres, sorry, pardon me. Javier Torres, tremendous coach, the Fighting Pirates, all that type of [ __ ] you know. I think uh Yeah. Yeah. I think he's going to be a problem for whoever is the champion when when he gets there because I do think he wins this fight and then I think it's got to be a title fight sometime soon.

[00:56:50]Speaking of heavyweights, by the way, Tom Aspenol Harrington, you just fact check me on this. I think he said that he's got the all clear soon and he should be good to go and starting training and all the rest of it, which is crazy because we're now in May and that happened in October.

[00:57:08]>> Yeah, >> it's been a long time. Yeah, it probably end up being a year by the time he gets in there or close to it.

[00:57:16]>> Which is crazy because again before that it was about a year or even longer before he fought and before that it was about a year and before that he blew his knee out. You know, I think >> Go on.

[00:57:31]>> So, I have the quote from a recent YouTube video they put out. He said, "I've had a scan. Things are progressing effing nicely." Which I'm very happy about. They're saying pretty soon if things keep moving in the right direction, I will be cleared for contact. I'm back in the gym. I'm back training. No spar just yet. If things the way they're going, we are back. That is crazy that it's taking so long because if you didn't have like a full-on surgery like that, typically you can recover from that quicker >> than whatever it is that he's going through. By the way, I'm not, you know, casting any doubt on what he's saying.

[00:58:03]He's following doctor's orders, which is what he should do, which is what I should have done. I was straight back into sparring a couple of weeks later, red detached and now I'm blind. So, you know, he's doing the right thing. Don't do what I did.

[00:58:13]>> He's learned from his past.

[00:58:16]>> Yeah. But, um, regardless. Anyway, going back to Waldoor, he'll fight Tom. He'll fight Pereira, Sirill, one of those guys pretty bloody soon, right? This is a good one for me, Paul. Well, for you, Paul. Sean Brady with Keem Buckley. I gotta say, I gotta say I'm worried for your boy You're worried?

[00:58:39]>> I'm worried. Yeah, because we like Shawn. Sean's a great guy. I know he's a close friend of yours. Stylistically, he's got the style to take down with Buckley. And if he gets on top, if he gets on top of anyone, it's a problem.

[00:58:50]But Rake is hard to take down and hold down. Yes, Usuzman did that very easily, but that was Usuzman. And I'm going to ask you in a second, but this is Shawn Brady now coming off the back of the Michael Morales loss. How is he doing since then? Because that can affect this sometimes.

[00:59:09]>> No. Yeah, I think he's handled it really well, honestly. Uh I I remember talking to him pretty much a few days after it happened. And you know, he understands that he's in the deep end of this division right now, you know, and he had great success against Leon and London and then sometimes you just get checked in in this game. And I think uh he just moved on and and got back to training and did what Shawn Brady does, which is just get in the gym and and get get going again. He brought in a lot of people that can mimic and and move like Waqen that are explosive, good wrestling, but not necessarily the best grapplers, good on the feet. So, he's type of dude that I know was dialed in and really made sure that he checked all the boxes. Um, I do like that Waqen has been training with Kamar Usman since that loss to him and buddied up with him and did a lot of training with him in preparation for this one. So, I think that makes it a really interesting fight. The fact that he kind of went out of his comfort zone, switched things up, went and lost, you know, fought to an opponent that he lost to. uh he's talking all kinds of trash and uh I if I don't know if you saw any of his press stuff but he just kept saying we're going to find out on May 9th over and over again basically.

[01:00:25]>> Yeah. I mean listen Buckley's entertaining you know he talks a lot of [ __ ] He's got a chip on his shoulder. I do think that shows a good level of maturity though, going being humble enough to go and train with Usuzman and saying to himself, "Right, [ __ ] I've got to improve some areas." And if that guy's willing to train with me, I'm going to go down there and try and soak up some of that knowledge. So, fair play to him uh for doing that because like we've interviewed him loads of times for the fire meetings and he like >> he does have like a real organic chip on his shoulder.

[01:00:59]>> Yeah. Yeah. He almost gets offended by any question that you ask him. And it's like, we just here to try to get info out of you, man, and hype you up on these walks and and and give you what you want to have said to the world when you're in there fighting. But I get it.

[01:01:13]It's fighting sport and you got to have your edge and that's how he has his edge. And you know, at the end of the day, when it's all said and done, he's usually pretty genuine afterwards. Uh you can just tell like when he's getting ready for a fight, that's kind of how he gets.

[01:01:26]>> Uh you got to just understand that. And once you do, you kind of can breeze through those meetings like, okay, he's going to do what he kind of did at the presser where it's like, I'm just going to keep saying the same thing because that's all I'm going to say right now and not give you too much information. Uh, but it's >> Sean's got >> Sean's got to try to What's that?

[01:01:46]>> No, go on. Sorry. Pardon me.

[01:01:48]>> I was just going to say Sean's also in this fight, I think, really got to earn some respect on the feet. I think he's aware of that and I'm sure he was sparring like that. And I'm sure he also is really working on his offensive wrestling, right? Shawn is unreal when he gets on the ground. No doubt about it. Um, but he's not a naturalb born wrestler. He didn't grow up wrestling through high school and college and things like that. He got into MMA as a young teenager. So, I think that's going to be a big part of the game plan, right? Is how do I strike my way into these takedowns and not let Buckley think that he's just going to be, you know, be diving for ankles and things like that. So, um, which opens up opportunities for Buckley if it if it does play out like that.

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[01:04:17]Remember to get 10% off. Okay, back to the show. It is fight week and we kind of forget that sometimes because I remember just recently um I won't give any too many details, but I was like someone on the team, you know, from tough what I'm doing. And I'm like, "Every time I make eye contact," I said, "I think she hates me cuz every time we make eye contact, she's giving me a dirty look." And Jason was like, "Michael, she's cutting weight."

[01:04:44]>> Remember how you were when you were cutting weight?

[01:04:47]>> You were a total dick to people, >> you know? I was like, "Oh shit." Yeah.

[01:04:51]Now, Paul, you're you're a nice guy. You know, you you're a very nice guy, but you're also a guy that doesn't tolerate too much [ __ ] and we'll say it as it is. How were you five week back in the day?

[01:05:03]>> Yeah, I would get really grumpy, too. I was the same way. And I remember Bren Brendan Fitzgerald has a funny story of when I was cutting weight uh in Auckland before I fought Dan and I got on the elevator and he said, "I didn't even like Brendan was right there when I got on the elevator." He said, "I didn't say one word to him. I didn't make eye contact to him. I didn't even say anything to and he's like, "You were just miserable and in your own zone and let you do your thing." I would get grumpy in the fighter meetings and stuff like that sometimes, too. Like Dom one time kept pressing me on this one question years ago when I was in Arizona and I didn't know what he was talking about. John Anick always tells this story and eventually I was like Dom I don't know what the [ __ ] you are talking about, bro. Like I would give an answer and it it was clear that it wasn't the answer Dom wanted. So, you know how he gets and he kept pressing me and I just wasn't in the mood for that because it was a Thursday fighter meeting. I got to make weight the next morning. I'm already cutting. I was like, "Yeah, shut the up, Tom."

[01:06:05]God, >> do you remember the question?

[01:06:07]>> I don't. That's what's bothering me about it. I I don't John Anak doesn't remember it either, but it was something to do with something strategic about the fight.

[01:06:16]>> You know what I mean?

[01:06:17]>> They weren't related.

[01:06:18]>> Yeah. I was like, I don't know. It was something to do with James Vic and his height or whatever. And I was like, "Well, I'm going to do this." And he's like, "Yeah, but how are you going to do it?"

[01:06:27]>> I was like, "Well, I'm going to do Yeah, but but but how? But how?"

[01:06:32]>> Yeah. Just kept, "Well, I'm going to figure it out. We're going to go. The referee's going to play fight."

[01:06:37]>> Yeah.

[01:06:37]>> And I've got a little bit of a strategy.

[01:06:38]I'm going to faint. I'm going to push it forward. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to throw a jab. I'm going to throw some low kicks. I'm going to try and back him up against the fence and, you know, this and that. And then ultimately you're fighting on [ __ ] instinct as well. You can't lay it all out >> like a blueprint exactly what's gonna happen.

[01:06:56]>> No.

[01:06:56]>> You know, that's why when I see a lot of these >> people that do these breakdowns of videos in fights and they go look at this and he does this and he moves there and then he steps there. From there he does this that that and the other. The fighter themsself didn't even consciously do that. That's called being in a rhythm. That's called being in the zone. That's called just fighting on instinct. What happens after you've trained for your entire life and you get really good that you aren't making conscious d going all over the place in your mind.

[01:07:33]It's called being It's called fighting.

[01:07:35]You're fighting >> a video game.

[01:07:37]>> Yeah.

[01:07:38]>> Not a video game.

[01:07:39]>> It's not a video game. Anyway, so yeah.

[01:07:42]Uh so so I'm assuming you've got Sean Brad.

[01:07:44]>> Yeah, I got to go Sean. Of course.

[01:07:45]>> Of course. Yeah.

[01:07:47]>> Yeah. And I I mean I'll go Shawn Brady as well simply because he's a friend of the show, but it wouldn't surprise me.

[01:07:52]It's a tough fight. I'll >> Of course. Of course.

[01:07:55]>> It's a tough one.

[01:07:56]>> Yeah. I have nothing nothing but respect for for Buckley and what he's capable of.

[01:08:00]>> Pray to the gods. Pray to the gods.

[01:08:03]>> I'm just glad I'm not I'm not there. You know, I was there when he fought Morales doing the about last fight podcast. They invited me to do it this time. Luckily, it's also Ashling's birthday on Saturday, my oldest daughter, so I wasn't going to go no matter what. Uh, but it it just makes it easier for me to not uh and and Jared Gordon is fighting.

[01:08:23]Uh, >> he's booked to the pre fighting Jim Miller. It's actually >> Yeah.

[01:08:29]>> Where where are you watching the fights?

[01:08:31]Because I'm here in Vegas at this house.

[01:08:32]We just got, as we know, Mackenzie D, Christine Pillo, we got Brady, we got this and that. We got a few people here.

[01:08:38]Rebecca shows up tomorrow, so we're just gonna do like a little >> Jason's a a wizard on the barbecue. Uh, so he does a lot of meats and like tomahawks and all kinds of stuff. So, we'll do some food. We'll get the fights on.

[01:08:52]>> We'll have a couple of drinks or two.

[01:08:53]You're still not drinking, right, Paul?

[01:08:55]>> Yeah. Almost. Oh, wait. End of this month, it'll be six months.

[01:08:59]>> Jesus Christ. I got >> Can't believe it. I can't believe how long it's been.

[01:09:03]>> I'm jealous. I'll tell you what, the longer it goes, it the easier it does it does get for me. Like the first few weeks around the holidays and things like that and flying like flying to Perth would have been normally >> oh man that's I put a movie on. I'm going to have a few drinks. I'm going to have a few whisies in the lounge. And so I was worried about that. But now now that it's been several months, it's been it's been a lot easier.

[01:09:29]>> Yeah. No, and as I say, I'm I'm genuinely serious. I'm not no bloody alcoholic or nothing, but I do make excuses for myself cuz this neck bloody hurts and it's really bad. I had an MRI today trying to find out what's going on. I kind of suspect that the fusion's failed again because this pain is just wild and I've had these insane migraines and it gets to a certain part of the day and I'm like, it does take the edge off.

[01:09:52]>> Yeah.

[01:09:53]>> Have a strong drink and it it does. It does. And I'm like, that sounds like I'm making an excuse to have a drink. I'm not. It's like, bro, the pain I've been in all day and I'm like, you know what?

[01:10:02]I'm going to lie back and have a drink.

[01:10:03]I'm going to relax. And it does make me feel better. But once I get through this, I will I'm going to give it a try, Paul. I'm going to try and go.

[01:10:10]>> I'm here for you.

[01:10:12]>> October's coming up soon.

[01:10:14]>> There you go.

[01:10:15]>> If I make it now.

[01:10:16]>> Yeah. Yeah. [ __ ] Um >> Yeah. Um and then finally on the main card, got King Green versus Little Heather.

[01:10:25]>> I [ __ ] love this fight, dude. I love this fight. Two old school dudes are going to beat the [ __ ] out of each other. Um, >> yeah.

[01:10:33]>> As far as who's going to win, I [ __ ] I don't know. I'm going King Green. Why not? He's got some momentum on his side.

[01:10:39]>> Who did he beat last time? King [ __ ] and walked him down.

[01:10:43]>> Let me see.

[01:10:44]>> Daniel Zel Huber.

[01:10:45]>> Yeah, like and that's a young kid. Now granted, Daniel Zel Huber hasn't really lived up to what I think we all thought he was capable of when he first got onto the scene. Um, but still for Ken Green to go out there and beat that young kid and do it in the way he did it and show that he's still got it. I think he's funky enough. I think he's got another old school dude in front of him. And I think I see I see Bobby getting it done.

[01:11:09]Yeah.

[01:11:10]>> Yeah. No, I agree. Even though he's not called Bobby anymore, but I'll I'll say Bobby for old school sake because we're old school guys, you know. Uh Yeah.

[01:11:17]Yeah. Uh and I do love the fact though.

[01:11:19]It is too old school. like multiple generations ago UFC fighters throwing down in the UFC for that >> before before I even got you know what I mean like way back especially Jeremy and good for Jeremy you know I'm happy for him too dude's out of the UFC doing bare knuckle for as long as he did and now he's back with his second fight in the UFC good for him >> let's do this because there is some good um prelim matchups on here have you got the fight card in front of you Paul >> yeah I do y >> right give me a prelim Jim Miller versus Jared Gordon. Holy [ __ ] I didn't know.

[01:11:54]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:11:56]>> That's an old school fight.

[01:11:58]>> That's a fight that was supposed to happen a while ago and then I don't know if you remember this. Remember Jarrett was coming off of like a KO loss and they were getting ready. He took it on short notice to fight Jim Miller and he started bringing up his concussion protocol and all that kind of stuff and then the commission pulled him from the fight.

[01:12:16]>> That's right. That's right. So, he gets to run it back against Jim. And again, these guys are both uh like New Jersey, New York natives fighting each other in New York. And both were CFC. Jim Miller way back in the day when CFFC was first around fought for them. Jarrett was obviously champion for CFC. So, just known each other forever, have probably trained with each other at some point.

[01:12:41]I've trained with both of the guys, so I'll be nervous for Jared, but uh I'm I'm picking Jared on that one. I gota see him get a win over >> Yeah, I'm looking at the prelims. You got a Tabby Gautier taking on Aussie Diaz. I'm just going to call it a Taby's probably going to knock him out, right?

[01:12:56]That's a tailor made match up for a guy that had a lot of hype that struggled last time but still got the win. Uh Joel Alvarez. Joel Alvarez El Phenomenon uh taking on Slooh Amos. That that'll be a good one. Grant Dawson, Mata, Jim Miller, Jared Gordon. Prelims are sick.

[01:13:14]Rebecca's flying in Friday night. I haven't seen her in ages. I've been here for five weeks. Before that, God knows where I was. I've been a different bloody place every goddamn week this year. Bloody going out of my mind. But I'm watching the fights from early doors. I'm going to be on the couch.

[01:13:31]She'll be like, I've flown into Vegas.

[01:13:33]Just >> Yeah, babe. Fights are on.

[01:13:35]>> And all you're doing is watching the fights.

[01:13:37]>> It's my job, babe.

[01:13:39]We got to do what we got to do. Beth, >> that's what I always tell the kids when they're like, "Oh, I want to watch Mermaid Barbies." And I'm like, "Listen.

[01:13:45]>> We haven't got that DVD. This is >> We don't have that DVD yet.

[01:13:50]>> We're going full only DVDs for kids shows these days. That's what we should do. Then they can't just be streaming [ __ ] on Netflix and Prime and whatever." But anyway, I tell them, "Listen, this is my job. I have to watch this stuff because I got to talk about it on Monday and and I might be calling these guys." So, I I uh I do I tell them it's my job. It is my job.

[01:14:10]>> But to be fair, well, not not to be fair, but you like other sports as well.

[01:14:16]>> Yeah, but I don't really wa The only sport that I watch >> is the Eagles. Uh I don't really watch the Phillies or the Flyers. Flyers are in the freaking playoffs right now.

[01:14:26]Maybe the guys can tell me. Are they Are the Flyers in the second round right now?

[01:14:29]>> Hold on, let me guess. Philadelphia Flyers. It's It's Is it baseball? Is it basketball? Is it lacrosse? I'm gonna say the Flyers. They sound like big tall guys that leap through the air. The Philadelphia Flyers, the number one basketball team.

[01:14:44]>> It's the only major sport you didn't name.

[01:14:47]>> NFL hockey.

[01:14:50]>> It's hockey. Yeah.

[01:14:51]>> It's a bad name for for a hockey team.

[01:14:53]The Flyers.

[01:14:54]>> Philadelphia Flyers. Yeah. I don't know.

[01:14:56]>> Yo, Paul, I can confirm the Broad Street Bullies beat the uh Pittsburgh Penguins real bad. They're in the second round.

[01:15:02]>> They're in the second round. Who are they playing in the second round? And when does it start? Harington.

[01:15:05]>> Is the Pittsburgh Penguin also a hockey team?

[01:15:07]>> Yeah.

[01:15:08]>> I mean, I get it from the North Penguins and stuff, but that's a bad name. They got to come up with better team.

[01:15:14]>> The 76 is our basketball team.

[01:15:16]>> Penguins.

[01:15:18]>> Yeah, screw the Penguins.

[01:15:20]>> Yeah, >> I'm 100% with you on the Penguins. We do have one of the most hilarious mascots though for the Flyers. We have Gritty, who's uh you got that grit in you. Uh they are in the second round. They're playing the Carolina Hurricanes. They're currently down 20 in the second round.

[01:15:35]Same as your Philadelphia 76ers. Down 2 in the second round.

[01:15:39]>> See, this is why I don't watch, Michael.

[01:15:41]I don't I don't watch.

[01:15:42]>> Yeah, cuz you're [ __ ] >> I do watch I do watch cycling, but I do that on my own time like on airplanes and such cuz my family they they don't get it. I'm like, "Guys, you don't understand." And I try to explain it and nobody cares.

[01:15:54]>> They They're pedaling really hard.

[01:15:55]>> Yeah. Yeah. There's tactics, but nobody gets it.

[01:15:58]>> They're really fast.

[01:15:59]>> Yeah.

[01:15:59]>> And they're dressed like that for a reason. There's a reason. It's aerodynamics.

[01:16:04]>> It is aerodynamics. Yeah. And uh try riding a bike in a pair of baggie shorts for five and a half hours and see how your ass like >> the wind drag will kill you.

[01:16:13]>> Your your your taint will be shredded to pieces.

[01:16:17]>> I tell Rebecca all the time, I'm like, if I liked if I was a regular dude that liked football and all these other sports, yeah, I'd be away every weekend watching sports, being a regular guy.

[01:16:29]But I'm not a regular guy. I'm just a UFC dude. So >> yeah, we only have to watch things on Saturday night. It's nice. If you're a baseball fan, you could be watching sports pretty much.

[01:16:39]>> The Philadelphia Penguins, >> right?

[01:16:43]>> Philadelphia Flyers.

[01:16:44]>> Oh [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah.

[01:16:46]>> And the Philadelphia Phillies is our baseball team.

[01:16:50]>> Never miss a game. Uh listen, we're gonna do some questions. Uh if you want to send one in, send it to bypodgmail.com.

[01:16:58]The more interesting the question, the better. Uh, also do us a favor, subscribe to the channel. Um, Paul's here. Rain or shine every single week, you know, never misses and he doesn't.

[01:17:11]He doesn't. Um, leave a comment as well.

[01:17:14]Helps the algorithm. Like the video as well. All that [ __ ] Anyway, that's the begging nominees over because I don't do that very well. But we're not doing questions just yet. Harrington, how can I help you? Uh, I wanted to see if this would be a good time to jump in with the 3PC topic of the week. It's >> perfect because I'm trying to think of things to talk about and I've got a placing headache and migraine. I've got a guest walking around the house that I really should go and say hi to. So, please, for the love of God, give me something to talk about.

[01:17:39]>> All right. Uh, well, I wanted to just let you guys know three punch combo. Uh, uh, this question is coming from their forum site. Uh, it said, "Three punch combo is an online community where real fans the MMA industry and MMA fighters beat to discuss and debate the latest happenings in the sport." How about this for latest happenings? Dean Thomas wants to know, "Wing C, did y'all see that Wing Cod Combat? How is he not suspended for interrupting a fight?" Did you guys catch it?

[01:18:03]>> What is Wing C?

[01:18:05]>> Wing C is this like streamer goofball that was working with He was >> That is a hell of a dress. So, where you headed? Come on. Come on. Show the team.

[01:18:18]Come on. YOU GOT TO SHOW THEM ON THE PODCAST. COME ON, MCKENZIE.

[01:18:23]This is a >> We will pause the video to look at Mackenzie.

[01:18:27]>> Full screen. That is a hell of a dress, McKenzie. Look at that.

[01:18:31]>> I have that same dress.

[01:18:33]>> Yeah. Yeah. Going poker.

[01:18:35]>> Yeah. I'm going to go get their money.

[01:18:36]>> Let's go. Let's go.

[01:18:39]>> I love you.

[01:18:40]>> You'll get some money.

[01:18:44]>> What did he say?

[01:18:45]>> Right. I love you. And then >> that is a dress and a half. Um, sorry.

[01:18:52]You was wincy. Come on. Tell >> Oh, wait. Wait. You You paused wing C for that, Michael. Come on now.

[01:18:59]>> Uh, yep.

[01:19:01]>> Well, listen.

[01:19:01]>> We sure did.

[01:19:02]>> Let's be honest, okay? There's a lot of demographics out here, right? McKenzie D's an attractive lady. She's walking fast in a very revealing >> put as our pick for the uh >> for the pick of the podcast. We'll probably we'll probably get a lot more views and then she's not in it at all basically until she >> No, of course. We need that on the thumbnail.

[01:19:26]>> Oh crap.

[01:19:29]>> In the middle of a karate combat match acting like he was blind.

[01:19:34]>> He did what?

[01:19:36]>> You'll see. Check this goofball out.

[01:19:38]Middle of a fight.

[01:19:46]>> This kid, he needs to get knocked out a few more times.

[01:19:50]>> Yeah.

[01:19:53]Was he on Hellwani show once or something?

[01:19:57]>> He used to he used to be on Demetrius Johnson's like uh stream all the time.

[01:20:03]>> Yeah. So he came up through >> he came up through the organization Street Beefs, which is those like backyard fights that they put on YouTube. U so he started doing that.

[01:20:12]Karate Combat actually did pay him.

[01:20:14]President Austin came out and said like we gave him money to be like an influencer, right? Come in, do some silly stuff, maybe mess with some people, some pranks. Certainly nothing along those lines where it could mess with uh u you know licensing and and regulations in the state. Um and those two fighters, I believe, were both UFC veterans. Curtis Miller um and Clauddio Ribero. Uh Millander TKOed in the fight and then caught up with Lucy in the lobby after and gave piece of his mind.

[01:20:43]>> Who won the fight?

[01:20:46]>> Uh Clauddio Rivera.

[01:20:48]>> Oh [ __ ] >> Look at this goofballs tattoo.

[01:20:51]>> Yeah.

[01:20:51]>> Do Do we have the video in the lobby, >> [ __ ] >> Don't [ __ ] walk.

[01:20:58]>> Keep walking. You really assaulted another dude over the fact that you lost? The only person you got to blame is yourself?

[01:21:08]>> Crazy. Wincy just got assaulted, but I still gain, baby. Am I bleeding? Who's bleeding?

[01:21:14]Is it me that's bleeding?

[01:21:16]>> Oh my god.

[01:21:18]>> The bro came up behind me, sucker punched me.

[01:21:23]>> What an absolute [ __ ] Hey, that's that's what these kids are doing these days.

[01:21:34]>> That's how you getting clout. That's how I mean I mean >> what kind of environment did that guy grow grow up in >> to feel that number one he can jump into a ring and stop a fight like that by just doing some little stunts and trying to make it all about him. Then walking around a hotel lobby like that talking [ __ ] Oh my god.

[01:21:54]>> And those are tattoos, Michael. Those are [ __ ] tattoos. That's his real face.

[01:21:58]>> That on his head and the headband, that's a tattoo. The one on his chest >> tattoos. They're life.

[01:22:05]>> Yeah, >> that's his life.

[01:22:07]>> Well, this is just somebody who grew up on on social media shorts and stupid.

[01:22:12]Like this guy grew up like watching Vines, you know, like just being an idiot chasing cloud on the internet. For sure.

[01:22:19]>> No. Well, it's it's in some ways in some ways I feel sorry for him. Um because he should have had some guidance and another part of him is like someone needs to give him a hard slap. You know what I mean?

[01:22:31]>> They are and it's not blood all over the goddamn hotel lobby there.

[01:22:35]>> Well, well, you poke the bear.

[01:22:37]>> Yeah. Oh, >> you play with fire, you get burned. You start messing around with mixed martial artists or karate combat fighters, serious dudes, and then one guy loses and no doubt he was probably talking a bit of [ __ ] in the hotel and acting all hard. You know what I'm saying? This is the you got to respect what these guys go through and that was a massive sign of disrespect and the guy looks like he needs a good slap anyway. So, >> oh yeah, >> you know, I wish him all the best in his future endeavors.

[01:23:06]Sarcastic remark there from me. Um, if you got a question, send it into bpodgmail.com or Brian Harrington, if you got that little three punch combo plug that you want to do, I'd say now is the time to do it. Otherwise, we're going to do question. Uh yeah, if you are a fan, head on over to three Punchcom today.

[01:23:23]Join the conversation. And if you're a pro fighter interested in learning how to make money outside the cage just by joining in the conversation, message 3PC on Instagram, three punch com.

[01:23:33]>> What do we got, Bri?

[01:23:34]>> So we got two questions today. We also got a couple of other people that sent in questions that were just trying to start [ __ ] We're not going to answer questions that are just trying to start [ __ ] >> Hold on. What kind of [ __ ] Um, well, I'm just I'm not going to put this out, but the guy was like, uh, Ultimate Fighter is useless and it's lost all of its uh >> Oh, yeah. Like, what do you guys think about that?

[01:23:58]>> Yeah, they're haters. Well, guess what?

[01:24:00]Don't watch it.

[01:24:00]>> Yeah. What do you think about that? As I'm working on it, Michael, >> stop beating your wife. You know what I mean? Like, just >> stop it. Anyway, >> whatever. Whatever.

[01:24:09]>> This dude's all right. This is >> Give us a real question. What's up, Mike and Paul of the podcast? Harrington, [ __ ] you. I got a question for Mike and Paul. I want to know how much does the size matter in the UFC with the best of the best. Take somebody like DJ.

[01:24:26]Demetrius Johnson was I think is probably the best ever in terms of like allound skill or take somebody like Ilia Tapora I think is you know probably the best allaround skill for skill. Where does that size like cut off? Like if you take Ilya, you know, we're talking about him fighting Islam at 170. Okay, that's competitive. But what if you take Ilia and put him against like the worst at middleweight, the worst ranked fighter in the UFC or the worst ranked light heavyweight? Like where does that like I assume Ilia can't beat any light heavyweight UFC fighter on the planet or any ranked heavyweight? Like can he beat a middleweight? Like where where does it become a problem? Same with like DJ or any of these like smaller versus the bigger fighters. like at what point does it become too much?

[01:25:15]>> Paul, good question. Um, I think for somebody that's at flyweight, I you know, obviously bantamweights, I think there's multiple guys, featherweights, even maybe even up to a few really bad lightweights, but I think after that eventually, just even reaching the guy, right? If you're somebody that's walking around 5'4, 5'5 and you're trying to fight guys that are walking around 6 foot something, it's going to become a bit of an issue. And same with Ilia.

[01:25:42]Like I think up until there's probably some middleweights that Ilia could probably tap the chin on and and KO, but eventually yeah, if there's a massive skill discrepancy, there's going to be more guys they can take out. But if you're talking where the weight really becomes an issue is when you're more even in those skills and then somebody has a massive size advantage like you know if Ilia is trying to take on like Nasserin and Mavv who they're both unbelievable strikers but Nasserine's a freaking middleweight you know what I mean that's going to be a real issue.

[01:26:14]>> It's literally the reason >> there's weight class >> why they have weight classes. I I I thank you for the question. Uh, I appreciate you going out of the time, but the reason they have weight classes is pretty obvious because when the skills are all the same, then it goes to who's the bigger, who's the stronger, who can impose their will more, because they have a a strength advantage. You know, when it comes to the wrestling, if you're bigger and stronger, you're going to be better. When it comes to size and throwing a punch, you're going to have a longer reach. You're going to be taller, you're going to be longer. Tom Aspenol's hitting harder than Demetrius Johnson, so on and so forth, you know. So yeah, listen on the street I'm sure an Ilia Taporia could handle someone um much much much bigger than himself, especially if they're non-fighters, you know, if you're just cuz you're one of these big streamer [ __ ] you know, and then you're walking around acting all tough. Ilia will drop you regardless of your size. But if it's another uh combat sports athlete, especially in the UFC, and they fight in the light heavyweight division, you know, the size starts to matter and starts to come into it. One >> I think a really good example of that is uh Il um Izzy versus Jan.

[01:27:27]>> Yeah.

[01:27:28]>> Yeah.

[01:27:29]>> Yeah. Like Izzy's clearly the more skilled striker, but it didn't matter because Jan's just bigger, stronger, gets on top, and you're not gonna get him off of you.

[01:27:38]>> Yeah. Yeah. It's why we have weight classes. What else, Bri?

[01:27:42]>> All right, we got another short little question here. This one is from Jacob.

[01:27:48]>> Yo, boys, are we having a pre uh UFC Philly run like Bisping did over Yonder?

[01:27:57]Um, also, don't use the intakes. I got crazy deviated septum here. Don't use those stupid [ __ ] magnets. Get one of these guys. No free ads. Just push it up in there.

[01:28:11]>> Check that [ __ ] out.

[01:28:15]>> Sh can Oprah Barbara Walters your wife.

[01:28:20]>> What? What?

[01:28:21]Shot out of a can. Barbara Walters, your wife.

[01:28:24]>> I think he said shot out of a I have no idea what that last line meant at all, but he wants to know if you guys are doing a run before Philly.

[01:28:32]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if I'm in Philly and I want to be in Philly and and we'll do a podcast in Philly, we'll do a run in Philly. We're doing a lot in Philly. What the [ __ ] did he say about my wife?

[01:28:43]>> I don't know what that was yet. Is he asking like sleep with murder?

[01:28:48]Like >> I assume it's FMK, but it's just you got to pick one of these people to shoot out of a cannon. Barbara Walters, Oprah, or your wife?

[01:28:57]>> Oh, Oprah.

[01:28:59]>> Shoot out of a cannon. I mean, opening shooting out of a cannon.

[01:29:05]>> Yeah.

[01:29:06]>> Blast her off.

[01:29:07]>> She's on those Empic now. She can fit in a cannon.

[01:29:10]>> Yeah.

[01:29:12]>> Um, >> for body positivity.

[01:29:15]>> Oh, Jesus Christ. What a piece of work.

[01:29:17]Anyway, whatever. We're not answering that. It's stupid. We've all got hops to go to. We got people to see. We got UFC 328 press conferences to go and watch.

[01:29:24]Uh, Paul, it's been a pleasure as always. Harrington, it's been a pleasure. And Brian, thank you very much. That was a good episode. But I've still got a blazing migraine. If anyone's got a miracle wonder cure for having migraines constantly, then let me know.

[01:29:38]Um, and we'll be back with another episode on Monday.

[01:29:44]>> I'll be here.

[01:29:45]>> I'll be I'll be I'll be here.

[01:29:48]>> When are you done?

[01:29:50]>> Next week.

[01:29:51]>> Oh, nice.

[01:29:51]>> The non-stop loop. But guess what?

[01:29:54]>> Over.

[01:29:54]>> Everyone goes home. I don't I got power slap. I stay here for a bit longer. Then I go to Macau and then it's back who in Serbia and this and that and I'm just I'm just it's great. We live again.

[01:30:09]>> Drink your relaxed cup.

[01:30:12]>> That said, you know, just take a deep sit and relax. We'll be back. Thanks for watching, guys. Bye-bye.