When governments face school kidnapping crises, they must navigate the 'hostage dilemma' between negotiating with terrorists to save lives and refusing to pay ransoms to avoid empowering terrorists. Governor Makinde of Oyo State demonstrated this tension by stating his administration would not give in to terrorism but would do everything necessary to rescue abducted students and teachers, including listening to abductors' demands. This case highlights the broader challenge of balancing immediate humanitarian concerns with long-term security deterrence, while also addressing systemic security failures such as inadequate state policing and the need for proactive measures to protect educational institutions.
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Governor of Oya state Shay Makande says his administration is ready to listen to the demands of the abductors responsible for the Auroro SCA school attack in order to save the lives of the victims and secure their safe return. Governor Machin made this known while briefing journalists after a meeting with service chiefs at his private residence in Ibado. The governor stated that although his administration will not give in to acts of terrorism, it is prepared to do everything necessary to ensure the abducted persons are rescued safely.
Providing updates on the incident, Governor Mckind disclosed that seven school students, 18 primary school pupils and seven teachers were abducted during the attack, adding that one of the teachers had been killed.
>> As a government, we will not give in to terror.
We will do everything to ensure that uh our children and their teachers are returned safely. How did we descend to this point? These are not foreign people. It's us against ourselves.
So whatever it is they demand, we're ready to listen to uh them.
Address the ones that we can address as a state government.
But uh the children and their teachers must be released.
Uh all right, this is our conversation this morning. Uh unfortunately, we'll start the show on a very sad note. Uh Mr. Show me, I'll just paint a picture uh you know to you. We saw a video of a teacher speaking with a lot of fear in his voice. that teacher was finally, you know, beheaded. I spoke about it um this morning, Good Morning Nigeria. We also saw a lady, a nursing mother, her baby was, you know, on her back and she was crying and praying that she will regain freedom again. Mr. Show me, often times we see this happen in the northern part of Nigeria and it seems like we relegated it to the north, but we're seeing this happen now in all your states. We've seen that our schools have become soft targets. Yes, the governor has made a lot of bold statements, but the people of Oo are still asking questions that how did we let this happen in terms of security? What did we put in place? Are we, you know, are we just being reactive and not proactive?
What are we putting in place to make sure that our schools are safe? When we talk about the safe school initiative, something that started strong, but something that did not stand the test of time, which is something we actually need as well. We also know the president has responded to this. He has said that there's no going back, you know, in just making sure that the people that committed this crime will be arrested.
But Mr. Show me what's the way forward for the people that have lost their families, their brothers, their sisters, their children.
>> This is quite very sad. Um look, um most people will feel distressed by the news of the killing of that teacher. He didn't need to die. There's no reason to kill him except that um we are dealing with people who felanic would describe as animals in human skin. These are not people who are reasonable at all.
There's no point in allowing them to put pressure you know on the family on the school authority on the government both the states and the federal government with a view to come up with some cash.
This is a situation where not a dime should be paid and I actually supported the statement of Mr. President you know that we will hunt these people down. is not that we'll do everything possible you know to secure their release because everything possible means you also including the issue of paying ransom.
No, the president has said no we would hunt these people down and they'll be brought to justice and it's quite very important. Another thing which the president highlighted which might be a comfort you know to those of us who are grieving and the parents who in any case would never find any so once they can't find their relative who has been killed now is the fact that we need to expedite action on state police no doubt about it because it will solve a lot of problem the president highlighted the fact that this issue of kidnapping and banditry can best be dealt with locally by the local police so one can only hope that by um 2nd of June, first week in June when the Senate will resume, they will earnestly complete their assignment on it and send it to the state houses of assembly for ratification.
>> Hola, I know how heartbroken you were, you know, with this particular story. As journalists, often times we read the stories and we go home, we cannot sleep, we're thinking about what happened to these people. You know, I was speaking to a former CNN staff yesterday, Stephanie Busari, and she mentioned something very important. The reason why these people go to schools is because of course we know that the schools are are soft targets but they know that the compassion of people will be there and will be ready to pay anything. Mr. Shomi just raised a very vital point about paying you know ransom and we believe that as we pay this ransom these people become more audacious. These people now know that when our attack schools whatever it is people will pay ransom. I just want you to break this down for me and also how you feel about such a barbaric act with the teacher being beheaded.
>> I feel very sad about what is happening.
Um, >> I I I understand.
>> I feel very moved. I think that this should not be happening. I think >> an attack on a school is an attack on national stability. How do we secure the future of the next Nigerian generation when they're going to school to learn?
And the message there essentially is that you are not safe. At any point, your life can be cut short.
[clears throat] >> Sorry, excuse me. But I was reading and in global security studies, this is called the hostage dilemma. And it's a tension that exists globally with any case of terrorism. Um, Governor Shahim Makind is faced with an issue. Do I negotiate with these terrorists and I save the lives of these children and these teachers immediately or do I turn away in order to strengthen deterrence and and show these terrorists that I mean business. He exists right now with a with something that we call the hostage dilemma. And it is very very worrying. You see countries like America saying we will not negotiate with terrorists ever under any circumstances.
But what people don't know is that back door there are back channel negotiations that exist. There are kidnapper swaps that happen. Israel will always say we do negotiate with terrorists under any circumstance. We will get our citizens back safely. And so Governor Shimak right now is towing a very very strategic line. And and I hope that God gives him the the wisdom to tow this line. I want these children to be returned home safely. No child should ever face this sort of insecurity or this sort of fear.
>> Hola. Thank you so much for that. I I I know how it is for you when we talk about issues like this. But let me come to you Ibrahim. Um this is what has happened. These children have been taken away. We don't know where they are. We don't know if they have eaten. These are children, young children. You know, we don't know even know have they had their bats, how are they fairing? The ladies that are there, the kids, the girls, who are the people, you know, mishandling these girls.
Words fail me at this point. Ibrahim, I just want you to touch this for what what's actually failed everyone because uh those that I will blame is um the authority the governments themselves the state governors because before now we've been seeing trucks coming in Amateo has been raising the alarm you know day in day out if not because of Amateo in in state for instance odo state would have been overrun uh the same thing you see what has been happening in quir state you know up north down south so it shows that even Lego state is not safe so if the governors are always you know are consider are concerning themselves about primaries, about re-election, about going to Senate, about going to reps and all of that. How much um do you do you put your attention in saving lives of the citizens? I'm not saying they're not doing so well, but then they have not done entirely well because if if you face this head on when we've been getting the influx of people coming from different um you know, neighboring countries and also up north, down south.
So we can't be reactive to issues like this. This issue of state policing has been on for more than almost a decade.
We've been talking about it even before before 1999. We've been talking about, you know, state policing and they've been dillydallying at the point they said there was no need for state policing that it will be used politically and all of that. And now we are now talking about state policing.
The president has been talking about state policing, but the governors are not really doing so much. So we would need to we we want to see them getting onto this issue pronunto. And please, Governor Shim, do not do not, I repeat, negotiate with these terrorists by paying ransom. It doesn't make sense because you'll be empowering them. They get they acquire more weapons, they acquire more ammunition and attack more people. The president has said, well, he's going to get these people and let's put our trust in that as we see giving marching orders to to what's it called the security agencies.
>> Of course, every all emotions are high this morning. Definitely we put our trust in the federal government but we just hope that we finally get to a place that we don't see this happen again. Our children should go to school. They should be safe in school. They should not [clears throat] be scared that they'll get to school and they will not get back home. Governor Shahim Makinde, you need to put a whole lot in place.
And if you're a terrorist and you focus on helpless children, I hope you know that prosperity will judge you at some point. We'll take a breather now and when we come back, it will [music] be time to dissect everything that has made it to the newspaper. Don't go anywhere.
Stay with us as team.
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