From Tough Talk to Total Reality Check - Mahmood OD | The Ali.TM Podcast

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[00:00:00]Remember the last part of our conversation, Donald Trump was on a trip to China.

[00:00:06]Your your view on it?

[00:00:10]China is now a global superpower on par with the United States of America.

[00:00:20]China isn't a growing power, China isn't a rising power, China is a global superpower.

[00:00:29]We can see from the statements that came from the Chinese President Xi Jinping that he understands that very well. He's confident with it. And he made sure that Trump's Trump hears it, too. That's why he started telling him that in the form of questions, of course, in that famous speech of of his.

[00:00:52]Can we coexist? Can we avoid conflict?

[00:00:56]Can we save both of our people and humanity? Because everyone knows what a war between China and the United States would look like.

[00:01:05]Donald Trump clearly understands that.

[00:01:10]Donald Trump went back to the United States. We started to have certain reports from the United States that the administration was telling Taiwan, "Listen, forget about this independence thing."

[00:01:22]Mhm. That's the Chinese territory.

[00:01:25]>> Mhm.

[00:01:26]And Donald Trump clearly did not get what he wanted from Xi Mhm. in relation to Iran. And that's why he started to immediately threaten Iran. Before that meeting, you know, I said that it's unlikely that there will be a war when he's there, but when he's back, we're going to start hearing it, which is what happened. But that also says that he didn't succeed in convincing the Chinese side to apply more pressure on Iran to cave in in essence for the United States because it's not going to it's not going to be an option even for China. China is never going to allow the United States to have Iran as a proxy where it can close the tap on China today or tomorrow.

[00:02:16]Iran is the third largest oil reserve country in the world.

[00:02:23]Iran is one of China's biggest oil exporters. 90% of Iranian oil goes to China.

[00:02:29]That's not a joke. They saw what happened with Venezuela one day after a Chinese delegation was there.

[00:02:36]They know the importance of Iran and and China's interested in solidifying that and that they're saying it.

[00:02:45]Iran is global power.

[00:02:48]Is a rising global power in the region.

[00:02:53]So if anything it confirmed that the United States in essence solidified that position, that role of China by sending the president, the secretary of state, the defense minister, the the joint chiefs of staff, everyone.

[00:03:15]And when you send all of America's top figures to a country, what are you saying to that country?

[00:03:21]This is how important you are to us.

[00:03:24]Regardless of all of the propaganda that's happening.

[00:03:28]So in my opinion, they're going to try and continue to coordinate.

[00:03:32]Because uh the United States knows its vulnerabilities with China and they know the Chinese red lines.

[00:03:42]They won't however agree on everything of course and that's why the United States with Israel will try and stretch it as much as possible with Iran. Cuz what we're seeing in the past couple of years in essence what is the United States doing?

[00:03:59]Trying to protect its position as an empire at least in the west.

[00:04:06]Controlling Venezuela, threatening Canada, threatening to take over Greenland, threatening Cuba, in essence have be be the leader of the west because they know that even the west is not guaranteed.

[00:04:20]With Israel they're trying to have that projection in West Asia to be that front of the western empire.

[00:04:33]Iran is that conflict point between the east and the west.

[00:04:39]That's why from a Chinese perspective that's a red line. But again, China isn't necessarily going to do anything that can be considered provocative.

[00:04:50]All of their support is secretive. They do everything quietly.

[00:04:55]Nothing is made public.

[00:04:58]But the United States knows very well.

[00:05:00]And that's why they tried, but that attempt failed.

[00:05:04]China is continuing to support Iran.

[00:05:08]Iran has its own independence regardless of China or the United States. But both the United States and Israel still have a problem because of the nature of their power as as neo-colonial powers. That's why they're going to still continue and try and have more aggression against Iran because their whole approach is based on having people subjugated to them and forcing others to surrender to their will.

[00:05:36]And again, that's not going to happen especially when we're talking about Iran.

[00:05:41]It seems like Donald Trump has an impact proximity has an impact on Donald Trump or he when he's far away he sounds pretty tough, pretty rough.

[00:05:53]And then that's strong man politician [clears throat and snorts] and when he's nearby he didn't he was a different man.

[00:05:59]Didn't look like the same man who was like slapping tariffs left, right, and center. Didn't look like the same man who was talking about the China virus.

[00:06:08]He was like completely different.

[00:06:11]He took a sip. He's known for not drinking. He even went to the extent of taking a sip while having a toast in respect to China. He also respected the Taiwan question. Never He's known to be a loudmouth. He was questioned about the Taiwan question. He just kept mum, took a few steps back in fact. So it was a very, very different sort of a a meeting.

[00:06:37]All losses, no gains, and now they're back.

[00:06:42]Mhm. It well it just says It says it all. It says It shows you how they view China.

[00:06:51]And the level of deterrence that's there.

[00:06:57]And how much of a clown he is at the end of the day. Listen, let's not forget that these people are comedians.

[00:07:03]They're They're actors.

[00:07:05]Like Donald Trump in his post, come on.

[00:07:07]We're not going to take everything seriously.

[00:07:09]He generates AI images of himself and starts to believe that that's reality.

[00:07:16]So they gave him a reality check there.

[00:07:19]The Iranians gave him a reality check on the ground.

[00:07:22]And it's easy. It's easy to post stuff when you're sitting there. But when you when you're in the presence of power Yeah. you respect the power and that's what what we saw in China. Mhm.

[00:07:35]>> [snorts] >> I also saw a show of yours that Israel is now officially the most hated country in the world. Walk us through.

[00:07:43]Oh, yeah. That was a recent poll. Mhm.

[00:07:47]Listen, uh if if if you look back in history, you'll see some of these polls in certain countries telling you about which is the most hated country in the world. And if you look at the some of the countries, they'll tell you about North Korea, for example. Mhm.

[00:08:05]What makes what makes people hate North Korea?

[00:08:11]That's I'm talking about the past. We'll get to Israel. I think it's it's the dictatorship. That's it?

[00:08:18]No, it's not the dictatorship. It's the propaganda against North Korea. Mhm.

[00:08:23]Yeah.

[00:08:24]>> You can have You can have your say about how it's run, who runs it. How many wars did Korea intervene in? How many foreigners did uh Korea kill? Mhm. How many countries did Kim Jong-un invade or his father?

[00:08:39]Yeah.

[00:08:40]How many wars did they start?

[00:08:45]In comparison, how many wars and how many millions did the United States, Britain, France, Germany, and the list goes on and Israel killed so far? So, even these polls that we were talking about and I had a reference to them, but it shows the gratitude of the thing.

[00:09:04]They have a lot of manipulation and they're they're result of propaganda.

[00:09:10]But even with all of that and when Israel poured billions in the past couple of years to try and protect its image, Israel is the number one most hated country in the world according to that poll that I shared then.

[00:09:25]And that reflects the global sentiment even with all of the propaganda that Israel tries to push on social media, on mainstream media, with politicians, with the criminalization of criticism of Israel, attempts to ban criticism of Zionism and of Israel, uh and they're connecting that with anti-Judaism, for example.

[00:09:52]This is extremely important. Why?

[00:09:55]Because all of their existence was established on fakery, a fake entity, people who fake their own identities, fake narrative, completely fake narrative.

[00:10:09]And throughout the years, they managed to sustain and build and continue this blind support from some people because of their continued propaganda.

[00:10:20]You can't criticize Israel. They are victims of a Holocaust that you can't even question or debate or ask how many people were actually killed in that Holocaust.

[00:10:31]If you criticize that country, then you are anti-Semitic again, this fraudulent term that they tried to hijack.

[00:10:40]And with all of that, and with their increased spending, they managed to be the most hated country in the world. Do you know how much Israel started to spend on its propaganda uh arm Hasbara now? They approved a budget that is close to $1 billion. That's the That's the publicly known budget, which is over 100 times times 100 bigger than the Hasbara budget that was there before October the 7th, 2023.

[00:11:18]Now, you'd think if you're a victim, if you are genuinely a victim, why do you need to spend so much money to explain yourself?

[00:11:27]But after October the 7th, they the budget started to be times 24.

[00:11:37]The initial budget.

[00:11:39]So, we went out from single two digits to three digits.

[00:11:44]Now, it's fivefold that.

[00:11:49]Close to a billion dollars.

[00:11:51]And that excludes, by the way, secret funding, undeclared funding, all of that.

[00:11:56]And with all of this, they're still hated as the number one most hated country. And if anything, that reflects the future of that country.

[00:12:05]No matter what you do, no matter how much you want to try and correct the image that people think of you.

[00:12:14]In most people's eyes, Israel lost any legitimacy to exist as an apartheid entity.

[00:12:23]That is the short moral of the story.

[00:12:25]And no amount of money is going to change that.

[00:12:28]And and and as we are going forward, this is like getting out of hands. The more money they're putting in in it, the more hatred we can see. It's now open.

[00:12:38]Singers, stand-up comedians, actors. It's like it's like all over the place now. I don't know what they're doing with the funding.

[00:12:48]>> [clears throat] >> So, and they're They're supporting everyone, everyone.

[00:12:53]Money, they're actors, ads, everything.

[00:12:57]And with all of that, the people are exposing them. Like look at the United States with the elections.

[00:13:03]Anytime you want to elect someone or vote for someone, you look at his track AIPAC record, whether he got funded or not.

[00:13:10]And people are sick of them. And they're going for people who aren't funded or supported by them or their lobby.

[00:13:17]That's true.