Special Council Meeting Vredenburg Council Chambers Thursday 26 March at 14:00

Añadido: 2026-05-31

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[00:21:44]Good afternoon everyone. Apologies to our audience online. We are back online.

[00:21:50]Apologies for the delay. Thank you councilors. Welcome to the special council meeting, the budget approval meeting for Sana municipality 2027 28.

[00:22:04]I am now at item one which is the opening and I'm busy with the opening but before we start um can we ask the safety officer to do the safety protocol please do you know about this or could we please take us through the safety protocol thank Yeah.

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[00:22:41]First of all, please devices behind. Please just remind thees I would now ask the local council to open this meeting in the proper manner.

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[00:23:31]>> Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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[00:24:08]Amen. Amen.

[00:24:10]Thank you.

[00:24:14]Official announcements.

[00:24:17]The executive mayor will come first.

[00:24:19]Thank you.

[00:24:21]mayor your official announcement.

[00:24:24]>> Thank you madame speaker. Um just in terms of uh last item that's what I wanted to say. Okay. Um yeah just basically for for council certification section 80.

[00:24:47]Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I apologize. I apologize. I apologize.

[00:24:55]We are today taking um saying goodbye to a official which at this stage has worked many many years in municipality and I think I'm talking about region 35 years. So to Mr. AB that all of you know him quite well. He has been with the municipality for for decades and therefore I he is retiring today and I want to wish him his joy in his retirement and thank you him very much for all the service that he did to this boat. Thank you very much.

[00:25:39]Thank you, Madam Speaker.

[00:25:42]Madam Speaker, mayor, everybody here, good afternoon and also our viewers at home and those in the gallery. First of all, the ANC would like to um also thank AB for its service um of the directors and of the management and everybody that works in the municipality. The one thing that um Amy has always had is compassion, um kindness, friendliness, and always willing to listen and to help. And you stone a voice is never up here. So Amy, we wish you well with your family, your grandchildren, and all of the things that you're going to do from today. Today, you're going to live excitedly and no hours of work, just being happy. and you always so thank you so much for your service. And then madam speaker today is Barak and the ANC would like to extend its well wishes to our colleague who is a Muslim councelor Jackson also our director and many of our other employees in council um um in municipality and also our Muslim community. We thank you for your compassion and we pray that Allah will bless you and that you will be mercifully blessed and that he will bring peace to your home and that compassion will be portrayed in your communities. And today as it is in Mubarak, the ANC stands in solidarity for the people of Palestine. It is Christmas for them and yet they live in absolute isolation and destruction. And we say that from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

[00:27:29]>> Thank you, chief of C. Council ve I noted your hand. You wanted to say something.

[00:27:36]>> Yes. Thank you very much, speaker.

[00:27:39]M I want I want also to say to my colleague Aware and nice.

[00:27:52]But know that your cannot come down instead of down.

[00:27:59]And another one that I got from base one offices the community all the community you can see all people are sitting outside waiting for the services. Our computers are also slowly by you go to town is the same and the old mama. So let me make plan either people uh do manual and then the official can go and catch up the things you know not mas but sit down sit outside of you know it's old and you cannot in that small said let them go in there please I want us to pass that let's resolve the problem yes let's thank you Thank you council from my side also. Hey, I met you when I arrived in 2011 and now you're leaving and it's like counselor said always laughing, always cheerful but very humble also but very strict also a lot of people like baby I didn't like him in the beginning but it's because we are both the same we are both viros so but his work ethic and what he has left behind he capacitated a lot junior people.

[00:29:42]So baby from my side all the well wishes go and rest well. I know you're not going to rest. You're going to work again and enjoy the rest and the family and the grandchildren because I know you should because you deserve it.

[00:29:56]Councelor, thank you council speaker you are correct. The portfolio chairperson and executive deputy may also send an email to the CO with regards to the issues currently in all the offices not just here but all the outside offices.

[00:30:09]So they are looking at how to address the problem but it's also our community's fault. They wait now until the very last time to come and review the indigent applications but we will assist where we can assist and uh because we must assist but they were addressing the issue that's currently on the table. Thank you uh executive deputy mayor also for addressing the CFO councelor Zenate leave of actions. Um I have received former leave of action of councelor Jackson who is enjoying because he's counselor then I have received official leave of actions from council kumari with signal I haven't received any other leave of actions apologist and um the director is also absent um director she is probably in his Council then before we start with the agenda, I will now do the official inauguration of the three newly appointed counselors. Um we have councelor Pety Jacobs from the DA report, councelor Visha from the and councelor from the hospital.

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[00:32:36]>> And I will respect and I hold the conitution.

[00:32:42]>> Yes. Yes. of course and all and all other laws of the republic >> in all other laws of the republic. And I promise to control my functions.

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[00:35:49]Thank you.

[00:35:52]Welcome. You're now officially council members of this council.

[00:35:58]I am now at item four through five. Oh.

[00:36:10]Thank you. Any declaration of interest for this agenda?

[00:36:17]Thank you. Confirmation of the minutes of the May and the council meetings on the 30th of April and 24th of April. Can I have a proposal?

[00:36:27]Council propose and hold a second. Thank you. It's nothing.

[00:36:35]There's nothing on the control list that's done currently items.

[00:36:48]Honorable speaker, honorable executive deputy mayor, alderman in the house, councilors, municipal manager, director, municipal employees, people in the gallery and all our viewers. Welcome to you all and thank you for attending this meeting. I'm privileged and thankful to present the three-year budget to council today. including in our budget document is the medium-term service delivery objectives, a budget provisions and all other information. Our three-year expenditure budget 7.7 billion comparison of 6 6.4 billion to be spent on operation expenditure and 1.3 billion on capital expenditure. Speaker, also before council day is an amended AIP document. The fourth review of the fifth gen generation IDP, the municipality budget has been aligned. The municipal budget has been aligned against this IDP and against strategic focus areas that we have set for ourselves. Our biggest strategic focus remains investment in infrastructure to provide reliable services to all our citizens. A total of 64% of the three-year budget 33.5 billion out of 7.7 billion is allocated to this speaker. In April in April 2026, we have conducted comprehensive public participation process on the budget of assistance in all 14 wards during 17 separate meetings. On 8th May 2026, the council considered all these public inputs that were given during a special budget workshop meeting. The minute of this workshop as well as the minutes of the various public meetings and various inputs received by included in the budget documentation which will be posted on the website later today of the council has adopted this budget.

[00:38:50]Speaker, it would it would be miserable for me not to mention our status as the number one local municipality in South Africa. In 2025, the independent rating agent rate ratings Africa rated us together with swap municipality as the most financial sustainable risk in the country.

[00:39:09]They consider six specific areas of which superstructure development, affordability, de governance and liquid liquidity, management are four of the six items measured. So municipality over these years has been recognized as a financial sustainable municipality as well as well governed municipality. Our objective is to deliver high quality services while maintaining a balance between affordable and cross subsidizing of our poorest households remain.

[00:39:40]Speaker a high level overview of our budget is as follow operating expenditure over the 3-year period is 2 billion 2.17 billion and 2.3 billion respectively.

[00:39:53]operating expenditure for the same period is 2 billion 2.14214 billion and 2.3 billion respectively.

[00:40:02]The capital or expience is 300 billion 300 million 475 million and 535 million respectively.

[00:40:12]The operating revenue budget for 2627 will increase from with 5.5% to 2 billion comparative with the 2025 26 adjustment operating budget of 1.2.

[00:40:25]Property rates electricity water sanitation and refugees are main source of revenue and amount to 1.5 billion627% of the total revenue. runs compromise of 253 million which is 12% of our total revenue. The operating expenditure budget for 26 27 will increase from 7.8% to 2 billion compared with 2526 just operating expenditure budget of 1.89 billion. The capital budget for 3year period is 1.3 billion and is funded as follow. 70% of 900 or 923 million will come from the state's own CR votes. 18% or 231 million from external votes and 12% or 155 million government rocks.

[00:41:24]Speaker, I now want to provide council a list of the 15 biggest capital projects over the medium term. These 15 capitals capital projects will combine a value of 932 million makes up 71% of the local capital budget for the next 3 years. And I'm going to call them out. Cintab bulk is 128 million. Road projects 123 million.

[00:41:50]Water bulk line is 88 million new building it is 86 million upgrade land water treatment is 184 84 million.

[00:42:01]Brutania Bay water treatment plant and new is 75 million. Housing projects to the value of 62 million. Freedom land cell to 37 million vehicles 55 million upgrading M station 40 million new storage resil 35 million upgrade water treatment plant that is 30 million upgrades Sana sewer works 25 million upgrade Shelly point waterworks is 25 million and novel z upgrades 21 million of 932 million which is the biggest 13 projects applicable speaker. The big discussion point among our residents that this year was newly property valuations in 225 appointed the independent value valuer to value all the properties in our municipal area. The property values increase on average with 50% since the last valuation was done 2021 from 51 billion 2021 to 77 billion in 2025.

[00:43:07]Given the high growth in the property values, the council decided to limit the growth property rates revenue for the 26 27 only to inflation increase of 3.7% and not the 50%.

[00:43:20]The 2627 property rate revenue will increase to 399 million which is 3.7% up from the current year's year 85 million.

[00:43:31]Speaker, the council on 30 April 206 also approved a seven-year contract with the service provider human settlement projects in our municipal area contract of eight separate housing projects over a 7-year period. A total of 193 million have been budgeted over the next 3 years for housing. 62 million for the installation of services and 131 million for building of homes. A list of individual projects is provided in our budget documentation.

[00:44:03]Speaker, I now turn to relief that we provide to our indigenous households at pensions. Including in a budget documents, we establish the current local population just over 161,000.

[00:44:19]So more than 53,000 households of which households are more than 80,000.

[00:44:27]We provide 100% subsidy for those households the combined income below 6,000 grand. We also have a second category between 6,000 and 6,800 grand.

[00:44:38]Those household will receive a subsidy of 70%.

[00:44:44]The rebate for Indians households received are 50 units of free electricity per month, 6 kil of free water per month, freeable sanitation property owners with property values less than less than 350,000 except from paying property rates as well. The council will increase will increase this from 250 to 350 from 1st of July 2026.

[00:45:10]Child headed households are also subsidized in the same manner with 100% category households. We also provide rebates and property rates to our pensioners in their combined household account 129,000.

[00:45:26]Further pensioners we are structuring the pension rebate from 1 of July 26. We have only been two rebate categories 100% and 70%. Those that fall in the 50% category from the 1st of July 2026 will receive now a 70% property rates remain.

[00:45:46]Speaker, our tariff increases for the next year will be property rates will decrease on average of 31% with the average increase in property rates 7%.

[00:45:58]Elected territory will increase with 9.2%.

[00:46:02]Water tariffs will increase to 3.7%.

[00:46:06]Sanitation will increase to 3.7%.

[00:46:09]Refuge removal will increase for 3.7% and all other countries will also increase with 3.7%.

[00:46:17]Speaker, today we are exactly 160 days away from the 2026 local government elections that will take place on the 4th of November 2026. I wish all the different parties fell for their various election campaigns. In conclusion, I wish express my gratit gr gratitude. I thank our customers who will continue to pay their municipal accounts every month. I thank everyone that made inputs into the IDP as well as the budget processes. I thank the West Cape provincial treasury that made inputs in our IDP and budget documents also for their 528 million investment in the area over the next three years. I also want to thank the westco district by our close relationship. I thank the mayor committee for their support. I want to thank councilors and committee members for the local communities executive management operations management all of us for this thank in advance who will now implement the budget to ensure cities achieve the highest possible level of service. I thank the CFO and the financial department for their work on this project and I'll therefore also thank the Mer for his valued input and support. Thank you.

[00:47:40]>> Thank you executive.

[00:47:42]Um if I ask for a second for the adoption of the budget that has been tabled now allow the parties to give their inputs and comments on the budget speech of executive mayor chief of the agency once again the executive mayor deputy mayor speaker m and everybody Everybody else um first of all thank you very much for presenting this to us. I appreciate your cander and um thank you so much CFO for yourself and your teams for comprising the vote but I have quite a few questions if you don't mind and I would like to do them um wise I'm going to start I'm going to take off my because I'm going to be looking here and not there right so in item eight I would like to go to the polling if we can start with the First one, first of all, the tariff increase of 3.7%.

[00:48:53]Which is on page 21. Um, I think I cannot say that we cannot give the tariff increase because it's legislated.

[00:49:02]But I would suggest that we consider where we are globally, nationally, and our people are suffering. I was in the queue behind an elderly lady.

[00:49:15]And when I looked at food that she could purchase for 3,000 rand for herself and her family, I was so emotionally charged that I felt that I needed to do something more and I don't know what to do because it's not enough. And even when they get rebates, even when they get indignant, if they have a lot of people in their home, they use more water, they use more electricity. So they end up having a chance they cannot pay and then they get in the rears, then they get problems, then they don't have water and then they don't have electricity and it becomes a vicious cycle for the poor. So that is just it's unacceptable that we have to increase rates. The value of the house was 250,000. is now increase to 350,000.

[00:50:04]That is good because of the elderly and others do not have RTP homes but have older homes which are in that in that range. So I'm grateful for that. Then I have questions on the grants that we receive and I have the following questions. The grants that we receive are part of our budget.

[00:50:31]Am I correct?

[00:50:33]So I find that there is no informal settlement settlements upgrading grant at all this year. Only for the next two years I think it is. There is no funds for socioeconomical projects. No grant was given at all for now and forever.

[00:50:53]There is no development of sports and recreational facilities grants at all.

[00:50:58]And I'm going to ask a question when I'm done. I would like to understand does the municipality request it or is this given by national to the municipality to use?

[00:51:11]Because that is the question I have. Why are those not included? Because all of those mean are pertinent to our communities for them to be able to develop rights. Then I have another question on the equitable share on page 33. We have for this year 157.4 million for next year 166.3 million and for 28.9 168.9 million that funds is to be used for the indigence right and also for the municipality if it is not financially stable. We are financially stable so it should be used for the indigency. I would like to ask this head if he could explain to the ANC and to our community at large the equitable share that was used for 2025 and 206 what we had for this period right then I want us to go to page 32 which is on the external lo page 32 you took two external loans to the value of 66 million, 20 million and 16 million and 1 million and more. And all of that was used for some of that was used for the bulk water or the bulk augmentation in Bay and the Britannia Bay waste water treatment etc. I'm going to get to my question now.

[00:52:41]Then we go to bulk budget per towns.

[00:52:44]Cintelina Bay has got a budget of 413 million. Sana 140 million Freddabar 50 million for the first time in forever and then hope I have a question then I have the question as to why when we go back to the informal settlements upgrading that is not having a budget when we go further we will see that there's no budget for it for this year and only next year a minimum amount in the after that the minimum amount.

[00:53:20]Why would an external loan taken to do two areas that are for the affluent?

[00:53:28]An external loan was taken to ensure that their systems are finalized. But an external loan cannot be taken to take three very large portions of Sana Bay municipalities, communities and formalize the informal areas with water, sewage, water waste, toilets, electrification.

[00:53:51]Right. My question then is the following. The electrification of George Courage, electrification of middle course um and George Courage. There is no budget in it until 2028 and 2029. I would like that to be explained to me. Then we're going to go to Sana the housing projects. Sana site a global friend.

[00:54:22]>> Okay.

[00:54:24]>> All right. I'd like to understand my last one and this is the langu 309. I just heard that somebody said that it's going to be finished this year or next year. No, according to your budget, it's going to be finished in 2029.

[00:54:44]That is when your final allocation is given. But my question is this and then I will say what I have to say at the end. We have had last year the budget was not finished. The houses are not done. So if you have to take into consideration all the things that go wrong are those houses ever going to be finished in any one of the areas. So when I look at your budget mayor I have to say this there is no formalization of the of the informal areas for years. The people are going to wait for a very long time. If you look at the budget, it's not going to work. So, I'm going to end off with this. The AMC does not accept your budget. We cannot support it. You went with us down into George F. You walked us through the horrors that our people live. Thank you, counselor. So, thank you. So, please chief of comments.

[00:55:50]Can I give to the M? I'm not going to speak.

[00:56:02]>> Oh, thank you very much. Uh m I want to just imagine can we so that for instance we bought so that we can see of this budget of budget so that you can understand because I did the end of this year of of of the one.

[00:56:35]So the is the end of this year. Now I want just to to see exactly so that we can know exactly what we we we we have as one council. Thank you very much.

[00:56:53]>> Thank you council. is included in the budget. I'll give you the time. Thank you chief of the >> madam speaker mayor and mayor for our service um as I think last week uh we go around with mayor and his um cabide was for one day. Now when I saw this budget, you can't do nothing about us.

[00:57:35]So we were not support this. Thank you.

[00:57:41]>> Thank you for councelor Morrison.

[00:57:47]Uh good afternoon speaker mayor councilors and the people of I rise today on behalf of the patriotic alliance to address the 26 27 framework while we acknowledge the first president face facing local government our fundamental duty in this chamber.

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[00:58:18]>> You're smiling at me very I'm trying to be serious.

[00:58:20]>> I'm trying to focus on the word you use.

[00:58:24]>> You can don't look at me then.

[00:58:29]>> Yes. Yes. I think that's okay.

[00:58:38]Our duty in this chamber, Madam Speaker, is to serve as a watchto for the vulnerable, marginalized, and the having scrutinized this budget and its accompanying we have deeper reservations and acquired exclusive clarity on several critical points.

[00:58:59]A and the financial strategy.

[00:59:02]Table one projects a budgeted operating deficit of 27 27 million for capital grants for 2026 27 financially. cumulative deficits of the entry period ballooning to again 69 million. Given the employee cost at 639 million and bulk electricity purchases at 578 million consumers staggeringly 2% of our 2 billion operating budget. What explicit binding milestones has management set to stop this oper operation bleed without penalizing basic service delivery.

[00:59:45]Furthermore, again request 9 million to fund 90 positions.

[00:59:52]These positions, how does it align with direct and service delivery? Does it actually really speak to the need out there of servicing the people of Sana?

[01:00:06]um without our people affording or funding the administrative bloat and then an extra step to G.

[01:00:19]This is the burden on the rate players.

[01:00:21]Speaker, the 2025 general evaluation shows average 50% increase in property market values, taking our aggregate property valuation from 51 billion to 76 billion. While the residential rate, the red arrow is proposed to decrease with triple0.48 to keep overall rates revenue grow flat at 398 million. The localized impact is deeply unequal in Sina Bay property value search by 67%.

[01:00:53]Based on the sensitivity analysis G, what is the exact net financial impact of lower to middle income property owners in these high growth pockets? Additionally, section 4.5 exposes a structural anomaly. Consumers pay 9.26 electricity tariff increase here. The B purchase cost from ESCOM is 9.01%.

[01:01:18]Why are we charging a 0.25% premium above ESCO's height? Especially when our budgeted assumptions flag and unacceptability are high, 11% in network electricity losses.

[01:01:33]Is the paying consumer subsidizing our technical failures and structural structural efficiencies?

[01:01:41]And then lastly, Madam Speaker, SBM relies on 193 million in provincial housing grants. Our execution speed on this project detects local societ societal stability.

[01:01:55]This council requires clear and immediate update. How far along are the procurement and legal processes to finalize the appointment of an implementation agent of our critical pipelines?

[01:02:07]most notably Dana 159 million and the middle site 48 million what structural counter measures are in place to protect municipal cash flows if this agent appointment experiences per in conclusion speaker budgets are more than just numbers on a balance sheet they are moral statements of a municipality's priorities we look at the relief metrics care Indigen property rate threshold below 350,000 is a drop in the ocean when the cost of living is suffocating our communities.

[01:02:48]The reality on the ground is that our people are struggling to survive. This document does not offer them a lifeline because this budget fails to provide deep meaningful relief and because it does not reflect the lived realities of our most vulnerable settlements.

[01:03:09]The Patriotic Alliance cannot in good cons support this budget because it simply does not speak to the poorest of the Thank you.

[01:03:21]>> Thank you, Councelor Young. Any comments to you?

[01:03:38]Yeah, this is my first this is my first formal speech. So very very brief little bit of background I have significance about significance financial one thing that I do is that no single budget can ever satisfy everybody that's one thing that's very clear um it is also easy to find fault and to criticize and to create false secrets in a very simple thing to do. It's just as easy to swing that I'm not going to do either of those. In my history, I was faced with a number of significant budgets.

[01:04:26]One of the things that I learned to do was not to look at the budget, but to look for consistencies.

[01:04:33]If the consistency, there was an opportunity.

[01:04:37]So sadly though, while I want to say that this budget I have I'm quite comfortable with it, sadly I must say that consistency that I found was created an opportunity but it does not speak well for this council.

[01:04:55]I want to join my colleague council with the request with with a statement.

[01:05:01]She has a question.

[01:05:04]Oakville is the oldest town on the West Coast.

[01:05:09]It is a hub of biodiversity.

[01:05:14]It is a it is a it's a historical point on the entire West Coast. Not just that, it has a fantastic river which is currently being invaded by alien doing anything about it. The point I'm trying to make is the opportunity that we are missing by consistently and I've gone back on the previous budgets by consistently taking hopefield and showing them to the back end of the budget. We are missing one of the biggest opportunities for job creation on the west coast. So I wish to ask and this is the request that I have after that speaker finish. I wish to request that if it is at all possible, as much additional funding can be pushed towards hope to make sure that there is a tourism action to make sure that there is a visibility action and to make sure that there is an employment and economic injection and ability created so that we can talk to the actual unemployment that's happening in that space as well.

[01:06:20]Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

[01:06:30]Okay, you're fine. You want to all to the questions that you regard to the equity share. I think the amount wasn't correct. Thank you.

[01:06:40]>> Thank you. Thank you speaker and thank you for the opportunity to all the counselors. Uh maybe just to touch on some on some of the points that the councilors have made. Um I want to just uh tell councelor that we need to apply for any grants that we we want to have.

[01:06:57]It's not given automatically. We need to apply. We have applied to sport and recreation few years ago and fortunately fortunately they do not have an open budget. So they can only keep certain certain amount of money. So they gave us a usual sport.

[01:07:18]We have some more applications in with them. I think we made one for we made one for we have our obligations. Unfortunately, we are competing with all the other municipalities for that funding from the department of stoation.

[01:07:43]But just to tell you about that, the other grants especially with regard to ization of the areas. Those are grants that we also have to apply for and we unfortunately have to get by province and those are the things that we have actually shown in the documentation. We cannot show you anything else that was not approved about Dora by that specific department. So we have we we already got that was spoken about in that in that years that we that's unfortunate enough for us to to fight on that. We hope that everything will go better because we have now appointed the implementation agent council has council has proved the fact that I can sign the contract for after the section process was finished.

[01:08:30]So we are starting with the negotiations with with the contractor and hopefully as the mayor had alluded to in his speech uh they will start soon and for the next 5 to seven years we have a we will have continuous um roll out of housing projects and we will also part that they will sort of um help us get more funding because they can only they can only spend the funding that we get.

[01:08:55]So we we've requested them to assist us with applications for more funding for that specific project. So it doesn't have to happen in their third year if they haven't finished yet. Now in the other town has not finished yet.

[01:09:07]Normally what happens is that the department shift some of some of the money to the implementation agent can regard the share can just can just add to that share is not only for the for the assistance.

[01:09:30]>> So that's that's all there to to assist us with all of the other other services.

[01:09:36]Stephan can can can talk a little more about that. Stephan, I think you can also just speak about picking up loans for a for the capital project is is for in the documentation.

[01:10:02]I'm not really sure about operational leaks. um that we have and there get some more information like get some more maybe we can just sort out those >> Thank you minister manager is there anything you want >> yes please just explain the loans >> good afternoon just a quick on the loans so the loans is still to be incurred and we've included that in year two and year three. So over history it was found that sometimes you don't need the loans then you move it forward still but the projects that is currently in this budget in ter of the loan portion is um as you said it's bay bay so those areas is currently there's a lot of growth there and it's and it's revenue generating project so what you want to do with those because you have to repay the loans. So you invest in revenue revenue generating projects. So those loans will be repaid from the additional revenue that we get from those units. That's the rationale and the policy of of of council is that we only incur loans for hot services. is water, electricity, sewer, roads and those those loans are there. Also you need to be careful with your structure loss because if you if you get the balance incorrect means your tariff will increase. So you want to look at services which are carrying himself like water. So we normally only um borrow for water projects for if you borrow too much for sewage sewage income is very low. It's about 120 million. So you cannot borrow too much there otherwise will have impact on your electricity tariffs. It's all about affordability.

[01:12:12]Um for example, if you use loans for certain projects that will not generate revenue that will mean you have to rebalance your budget and just use that.

[01:12:28]>> Thank you CFO. I know your hand wanted to add something.

[01:12:37]>> Thank you speaker. Um yes, I know that she didn't ask me for I was supposed to go before but but anyways um politics council speaker um we we are in support of this budget.

[01:12:58]I'm not an expert in terms of financial budgets and statements and so on and so on but I do have some sort of and if you really go and look at the budget I want to add to what my colleague has said by the way um that if you really and and if we are honest around the state this budget does 70% I don't even see but is for 70% of the poor of the poor.

[01:13:30]>> I would however like to thank the CFO for presenting such a well sorry for this um and then to finance. Thank you CO and your team. I do not think that these counselors appreciate what the official sometimes does but I do I say thank you to you today as everybody else. Thank you very much. Um so yes speaker we do agree and satisfa I will allow you thank you madam speaker um CFO thank you so much for explaining it to me in such a way and what I got from your explanation is the following you borrowed the money to do the infrastructure in an area that would ensure that you got the revenue back that you put in. So if you did it in our informal areas, our people could not generate the revenue for you to do it again. Thank you for making that clear.

[01:14:45]Um let's rectify the state of the >> I just want to correct that but it's not >> the basically everybody doesn't matter what area you live so we spend on water we spend on on the services that there's a that is a return for investment otherwise if we do not have water below price also our town and there's a return on investment because everybody account that that means we need to then tax and we don't want to do that in the reason why there's a there's a focus at this stage for the pipes and bra the whole time it's very old system that we have as well as people currently using area that's why there's a focus on that in the other areas if I don't feel right we do have those services in place >> thank you mm council before we vote let's go over to the vote for the budget um I just want to food is okay.

[01:16:07]>> Yes, sir.

[01:16:18]>> Thank you.

[01:16:23]>> Thank you council. Council speaker on the budget um against the approval adoption of the budget can please raise your hands and please raise it high I can't see your hand against for approval and adoption on the budget.

[01:17:03]18 for adoption of the budget. So the budget as carried in and the budget is here for adoption. Thank you. Council item 9 stroke five.

[01:17:17]Final review and amendment for the Can I have a proposal?

[01:17:25]>> Nobody say I'm going to do that. I'm going to take that to them.

[01:17:46]Council, thank you. We will now go to the IDP item. Can I have a proposal in the second to adopt the review? Thank you.

[01:17:57]Councelor America has proposed second. Anybody against the adoption of the IDP?

[01:18:04]No. IDB unanimously adopted. Thank you.

[01:18:08]Ben item 105 section 33. Any questions for clarity?

[01:18:14]Can I have a proposal?

[01:18:16]from a proposed second item unanimously adopted. Thank you.

[01:18:25]Item 11 from five replacement of red participants in various newspapers.

[01:18:30]Any questions for clarity before I ask for a proposal? No questions for clarity. Can I have a proposal?

[01:18:38]All proposed second.

[01:18:41]Thank you for council. A second item unanimously adopted council and I must take you to a um one executive mayor.

[01:18:53]Thank you madame speaker um just from from from the side of the governing parties um we just want to make the following adjustment to the 79/8 committees we will provide a list but I just want to announce the following which is important and then the opportunity will be given to the other parties also to contribute or change whatever they need to do the medical council's purposes the section 80 um MMC for for for for instruction is councelor Pa and then our 79 impact chairs would now be councelor Hunold and 79 chability counc Thank you executive mayor the seats allocated on the section 1879 committees for the new councils on the site will be sent by to administration with the request of the council of that same party um chief of the ANC are you satisfied with your list as it is currently because you've got an opportunity to change the the the the seating can you send that in writing on email to myself please thank you councelor um chief of you will be allocated to spots on the acting committee where councelor um was but it positions as a member of the committee but as it's standing procedures discount and councelor Jansen for you also for notification you are allowed to attend all the committees so you can have input on the committees when it comes to council although you not maybe a member same council all the other parties council councel >> I just have one question madam speaker why is it that none of the opposition counelor chairperson of the season 79 I only the ruling party and I think it towards the opposition just sitting in the opposition and not being able to serve on these committees that's it's really unfair and this is something that needs to be addressed by the party seriously to speak it's not right simply because we are in opposition bas you're not good enough for these committees although it's the prerogative of the ruling party and its coalition partners. But I think it's totally and utterly unfair to not affording us the opportunity to serve on these committees. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

[01:21:32]Thank you for your mic. Thank you. Thank you for your comment, councelor Morrison. As you said, it is the um party to decide and we will put people that special purpose in the position.

[01:21:43]Thank you, councelor. The Can I get a proposal in the second one for the changes? Thank you, Alderman. Thank you chief of council councilors. Thank you very much. That is with all the meeting.

[01:21:57]Thank you.