This video analyzes how political figures like Marjorie Taylor Green and Tucker Carlson engage in deceptive political behavior, using their platforms to redirect support toward MAGA-aligned candidates while presenting themselves as progressive allies. The content emphasizes that critical analysis of political figures requires examining their full track record and private communications, not just public statements, and that accepting such figures into progressive movements can undermine the movement's core values.
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Kyle Kulinski EXPLODES, Goes OFF on Tucker/MTG Simps & AOC HATERSAdded:
So like he is a known proven liar. Can we stop like falling for the [ __ ] most obvious scams in the world at this point? You know, going for some Tucker [ __ ] is like falling for a Nigerian prince email scam.
>> Um should we move on speaking of a Tucker to the the little bit of the Kyle Kolinsky content? Yeah, we got a we got a Marjory clip and a a Tucker clip where Kyle really goes off on some of these [ __ ] grifters, these defenders of obvious cranks and liars. Um, so I really appreciated a couple different timestamps here from Kyle. Uh, do you want to react to this one for a sec?
Yeah, let's go. Okay, grace and move on. That's all like that's what that's what those people are saying. Um, and the people who are taking AOC side are basically saying, "Look, we we don't trust her. We don't [ __ ] trust her. Why would we trust her? She has a track record of being wrong about virtually everything. This about face is very recent." And to me, this is the sort of debate ending point in my mind is that MTG has made a point of not criticizing JD Vance and almost hinting that I'm going to support JD Vance in 2028 and act like he is anti-war and his hands are clean of all the MAGA wararmongering and war crimes and terrorism. And so, >> and don't forget guys, months and months ago before her falling out with Donald Trump, Marjgerie Taylor Green went on Tim Dylan's podcast and Tim Dylan asked her if she felt like she was the heir to the MAGA movement and she said, "No, JD Vance is the heir to that MAGA movement."
>> Yeah, 100%. And so it's pretty interesting to hear this theory continually uh kind of laid out, which is that maybe the likes of Marjorie and Tucker, you know, they're not actually as against MAGA as as it might look.
They're just preparing to help JD Vance when the time comes. Um so that's pretty interesting. Let's hear a little bit more from Kyle. We have one more time stamp. What's the point of having somebody in the tent if they're just going to use whatever sort of clout they have to redirect people into supporting the same sort of MAGA terrorists and wararmongers that are currently in power? That's what I don't understand.
And the other >> and 100%, you know, if Marjgerie Taylor Green wants to come out here and endorse AOC, then I'll be like, hell yeah, welcome to the party. You know, let's uh let's go. That's cool. But I don't think that's going to happen. I think she is going to support a Republican uh just a real America first Republican. you know, that's that's her plan. Uh, and that might that person might be JD Vance.
That person might be Tucker Carlson himself.
>> Yeah, I think there's a good chance it ends up being Tucker Carlson himself when she realized she can't hitch her wagon to JD Vance because he has no base either. And she's going to be like, "Okay, well, who can I grift alongside?
Oh, I'll hitch my wagon to Tucker Carlson when he runs." I think that there's a really good chance of that.
Uh, and I don't think that there's any chance. I think there is basically 0% chance that we would ever see her not endorse AOC. She would never even endorse Rashida Talib. She would never endorse Ilhan Omar. She would never apologize for leading a resolution to censure Rashida Talib for being 100% correct in everything that she said in the aftermath of October 7th in 2023.
She'll never uh apologize for calling them the Jihad Squad. She'll never apologize for having a rally pro saying she's pro- Israel right outside the White House and talking about how, you know, the squad members are pro Hamas.
She's not going to walk any of that back. But what she will do, what she will do is get a bunch of the dumbest [ __ ] online to be like, "See, she's actually better than AOC." And then she'll turn around and support Tucker Carlson. 100% 100%. Um, honestly, in the same way that a lot of grifting people in the so-called left were espousing this line that actually maybe Trump is more anti-war than Kamla, right? Very reminiscent. Uh, so here's one more good time stamp from Kyle Kolinsky talking about Marjorie and the people that are dumb enough to believe her lies, right? Like you can use this, but in terms of the substance of what of what she's saying, I I don't I don't know anybody who can disagree with the substance.
Don't be naive, guys, right? Like don't be naive. Don't act like you were born yesterday. It like people like Tucker Carlson and people like Marjorie Taylor Green, they're not going to come out and support the furthest left flank Democrat running in the Democratic primary.
That's not going to happen. They're going to back JD Vance or they're going to run on their in their own respect and mixed in with their flavor of, you know, anti-war politics is also going to be like [ __ ] white nationalism, right?
Is also going to be like, let's continue to strip black voters of all of their rights. is also going to be with, you know, they're going to be wrong on like 90% of [ __ ] So, there's no reason to overly hype up when they happen to be correct about something in the sense that you welcome them into the 10. You can use what they're saying for divide and conquer, but you don't like say, "Hey, welcome to the movement and now we're going to have you at the [ __ ] front of the line." Now, [ __ ] that [ __ ] You get to the back of the line [ __ ] [ __ ] that [ __ ] Pull quote Kyle Kolinsky.
>> Yep.
>> 100%. Yep. And it's again, it's it's very consistent from Kyle and from us because it's exactly what we said about Liz Cheney, you know, to bring up Liz Cheney again. It's like, yeah, thank you for saying the right thing. Thank you for like standing up for democracy or whatever, but get to the back of the line. We're not going to bring you out on this [ __ ] stage to rally the troops and anoint you some sort of a serious ally or leader. Again, we'll take it. Um, but obviously, as as most people, including Jen, acknowledged, it was a huge mistake for Kamla to elevate Liz Cheney to the extent that she did.
Of course not. Why would you trust Liz Cheney? Why would you sanitize her reputation and that of her disgusting family? Of course, Trump or sorry, uh, Kamla also received Dick Cheneyy's endorsement, right? Either way, Kyle absolutely spitting there. Um, and then here's a real good one, Zach, because although Kyle does not actually name Jen Huger like Sam Cedar did, I think it's pretty clear the kind of people he's referencing in this clip. Just totally going off again on these idiots who are believing the grift of obvious grifters.
bad energy about him that causes people around him to become sick or have their lives ruined or maybe get attacked by a demon. And in 2021, Tucker privately referred to Trump as a demonic force.
And these messages where he said that were leaked a few years later around the same time he was attacked by a demon.
>> It's [ __ ] like this that drives me crazy when people are very polyianish and naive and they act like, "Oh yeah, Tucker's like on our side now or whatever." Bro, he was literally saying in 2021 and 2022 that he hates Donald Trump with a burning passion and he can't wait till he doesn't have to talk about him every night. and they would go on TV every night and say Donald Trump is awesome. He's amazing. He's the greatest. So like he is a known proven liar.
>> And we talk about that a lot. One of the other juicy nuggets that we've gotten here at the Vanguard is we interviewed Sam Cedar. We've interviewed Sam a few times, but one of the times he came on he talked to us specifically about Tucker Carlson and he was like, "Guys, I remember Tucker Carlson in 2002. He recorded out of New York City. Many people that I know quite well knew Tucker Carlson and had to work with him.
And one of his favorite things to do was be a ginormous [ __ ] when he was on air and then go outside after the segment was over, smoke a couple cigarettes and be like, "Oh, I'm so sorry." Like, are you kidding? I don't actually believe any of that. I'm just a regular guy. Like, I just want to be your friend. I just say white nationalist fascism and Islamophobia for a living, but outside I'm just like [ __ ] Camel cigarette smoking Joe, you know, out here. I'm having a good time.
and he's been open and transparent with other people in the media for his entire career that it's all an act for him, right? But he has developed such a cult following, right? Such a such a diehard sickopantic base that they don't care that it's all a lie. They'll allow him to lie to them forever, much like Donald Trump, who we've compared him to often.
100%. Couldn't have said it better myself. Um, and I really appreciate Kyle continuing to stress the point of of, you know, bringing up these uh leaked text messages from Tucker that I think prove better than anything what a total [ __ ] liar he is and what a total [ __ ] grifter he is and how you really can't take anything he says seriously, right? I don't think TYT has mentioned that a single time in their analysis of Tucker over the last like year or so. I don't think they brought it up once.
They just completely omit it. Uh, totally abdicating their journalistic responsibility. Um, I mean it's one thing to say, oh, like let's acknowledge this, but for whatever reason, I believe him anyway. They just act like it didn't happen. They just act like this proof of him being a liar doesn't exist and isn't even worth referencing. Even though again it gives you great insight, probably the best insight into who Tucker actually is and how he operates.
>> Totally agree.
>> Donald Trump is awesome. He's amazing.
He's the greatest. So like he is a known proven liar. Can we stop like falling for the [ __ ] most obvious scams in the world at this point? You know, going for some Tucker [ __ ] is like falling for a Nigerian prince email scam.
>> I thought that was a pretty good way to put it. Um, of course, you know, referencing people like Jen Uger, who I guess in Kyle's eyes are as stupid as people who fall for a Nigerian prince email scam. Um, but it does seem to be that obvious to again anyone who's actually honestly analyzing the situation and isn't just trying to ingratiate themselves with a proTucker right-wing audience conveniently for Tucker's presidential run. That would be my question for Kyle, right? My question for Kyle, I know he watches the show sometime. Kyle, I have this question for you if you happen to see this clip. Why not just call out Jank U and identify how [ __ ] stupid his analysis is right now when he is literally sucking off right-wingers 24/7? Like like I understand that Kyle's philosophy is like, "Hey, you shouldn't punch left."
And he has a giant YouTube channel and I understand like, you know, he really really considers the weight of what he would do with it and I respect that a lot. But I just think I'm like m we had this whole thing with Joe Rogan, right?
Where Gavin and I were like, man, I really [ __ ] wish that Kyle would just bring the hammer down on Joe Rogan. And same with Jimmy Door. And Gavin and I made content for months and months and months like pleading with him to do it.
And then finally, he brought the hammer down on Joe Rogan. And Joe Rogan took a real hit. Joe Rogan has a reputation like persona non grat with basically anybody uh uh in in remotely in the independent media sphere now. And obviously a lot of that was his own >> progressive media sphere.
>> Yeah. Yeah. progressive independent media sphere. But even the regular independent media sphere, I think he's taken a hit on it and I think that, you know, you could trace his fall in popularity uh to all the people who hit him over the MAGA stuff. I genuinely think it was valuable. I think it did a lot of good, right? I think Jimmy Door has been hit into oblivion now and he's completely irrelevant. He doesn't like manufacture any meaningful discourse.
He's just got his own little island brigade of [ __ ] So, I I genuinely think it's time for Kyle to come out here and be like, "All right, like Jen, unless you are going to seriously hold yourself accountable for these atrocious takes and start debating people on the left, you cannot consider yourself a progressive by just kissing the ass of every Republican, stroking off Tucker Carlson, you know, promoting MTG and doing it to attack and antagonize AOC and still call yourself a progressive 100%." And I think that actually is why Kyle's so passionate about this is because he kind of did try that approach, remember? like he would go on Joe Rogan, he would be nice to some of these people. Um, and it didn't [ __ ] work. At the end of the day, they all lined up behind Donald Trump. So Kyle knows, he's like, "I've been inside the belly of the beast. You can't turn these people into allies. They're going to grift at the end of the day. They're going to support Republicans. So why even waste your [ __ ] time entertaining their nonsense and giving them credit where credit is definitely not due." Um, so I think Kyle, you know, he has a lot of insight into that community. Again, he he tried to be friends with Joe Rogan. He tried to be friends with Jimmy Door. He saw what happened. They they turned out to be the exact grifters that we said they were.
Yeah. Um and and I respect Kyle for that approach. Um but I also really respect that he changed course when he realized it was a fool's errand. You know, he's not going to keep going out here and like pandering to Joe Rogan when he again he sees the end results of that.
Joe Rogan doesn't give a [ __ ] You're not going to convince him with logic and with facts. At the end of the day, he's going to do what Dana White tells him do. Um, and if you really think it's any different with like Tucker Carlson, uh, then then I'm sorry, but as Kyle said, you're as stupid as the people who fall for a Nigerian prince scam.
>> Yep. And I just think that Yeah, I think I think it's time to bring the hammer down. That's my view. Obviously, I've been quick to bring the hammer down, Kyle. You know, he's a, you know, he's more of a peacebringer. Uh, but I just think that Jen at this point, given the tremendous amount of selling out that he's done, the massive amounts of corporate money that have been pumped into TYT, he's no longer independent media. He is a vessel for basically poaching people from the left and turning them into right-wingers. And I think that's deeply problematic. I think it's deeply immoral. And I think he's guilty of doing much of what Joe Rogan and Jimmy Door and Dave Rubin tried to do before him.
>> 100% 100%. Um what I am hoping for is a JK KF appearance, you know, cuz it does seem like out of all the out of all these people, you know, like Sam Cedar, for whatever reason, like Jen will talk to Kyle. Yeah. Um, and it seems like he's more open to having debates on like KKF than the Majority Report for some reason. Even though they basically have the exact same stance on this issue and a lot of others. Um, but for whether whatever reason, you know, Kyle is not a low rent grifter. He's a high rent grifter. So, you know, Jen will go on that show, I guess. Um, and I'm hoping it happens because, you know, they had an explosive debate about a year ago.
Seems like it's time for another one of those. It seems like, you know, it's time for Kyle and Crystal to team up and and put this [ __ ] in his place.
That would be glorious. I mean, same with Anna. I'd love to see her debate them, too. Uh, but it seems like Jen is more hungry at this point for uh discourse and debate again with everyone but [ __ ] Sam Cedar, I guess. So, I hope that happens. Uh, obviously it'll be glorious to react to, but I think it would be a really substantive conversation and Kyle could sort of outline, you know, his theory as to why this is a fool's errand and why it simply doesn't work and hasn't worked.
>> Oh, yeah. That's the ideal way, I think, to call out Jenk, right? Kyle has the ability to be like, "Hey, man, do you want to get in the studio and hash this out?" That's the grownup way to do it, right? Gavin and I, we make videos because nobody would want to [ __ ] oh, where are we going to meet up? Like, you know what I'm saying? Kyle is a broadcaster with a studio and and all of these things. And Jenk and him go back and they both trust each other. And I think it would be a real public service for Kyle to hand him his ass and give him an opportunity to come back to the left at the end and hey man, I don't know what cooked your brain, but you are doing the leg work for the white nationalist movement in this country.
you're doing the leg work for the next iteration of MAGA. I, you know, if you're Kyle, might believe that Jenk doesn't understand what he's doing and he means well. Okay, lay that all bare for him, but you have to hammer him for it because to me it's just negligent broadcasting. Yeah, 100%. No, I totally agree. He is doing the leg work of the fascist Republicans. I think there's no better example of that than their commentary on AOC just constantly tearing her down. I mean, not even really offering constructive criticism, just being like, "Marjorie Taylor Green is way better than AOC and she's putting her to shame on the issue of Israel."
And it's just like, "That's not [ __ ] true. You're literally just lying.
You're promoting an obvious liar, a grifter, a [ __ ] fascist piece of [ __ ] Um, while you simultaneously tear down the left's best option in the upcoming presidential primary, and I have lots of criticisms of AOC, um, but I hope you guys realize that those are constructive criticisms. You know, we're not trying to tear down AOC. really excited uh to get excited about AOC and I think it's clear at this point that yeah, like it or not, she is probably the most progressive option that's going to run in 2028 aside from maybe Roana.
Um but of course that debate will be had when the time, you know, comes.
>> Totally. Uh good stuff from Kyle, though. Really appreciate him taking these [ __ ] to task and not joining in the brigade of people who are trying to be like is really bad and that makes Marjorie Taylor Green good. Like no. Uh, I I I just think that we really, if you look left and look right, Ryan Grim, you know, the exception of the one good faith person that maybe got it wrong this time, but a lot of these people are the obvious grifters who were trying to tell you, oh, MAGA's actually anti-war.
All of those people are the same people who want you to now believe MTG is actually based and AOC is cringe.
>> Yeah, 100%. And again, if AOC or sorry, if MTG actually wants to like apologize and endorse a progressive Democrat, you know, if she wants to be like the Tulsi Gabbard of the right, you know how Tulsi like pretending to be a leftist and then ended up supporting and endorsing Donald Trump. Like obviously I think it was smart for Trump to accept Tulsi's endorsement. In the same way, yeah, if if Marjorie actually wants to come out here and be like, I'm a I'm a progressive now. I'm a Democrat. [ __ ] the Republicans. I'm supporting AOC. at that point. Yeah, I do think AOC should probably like, you know, make amends and they can do a rally together or some stupid [ __ ] like that. Um, but that's what it would take for me to even begin to trust Marjorie. Um, because I agree with Kyle. I think at the end of the day, she is going to probably support Tucker or JD Vance.
>> Yep. I think that's uh that's totally fair, right? The left has to be open to redemption, but we can't just be fools about it.
>> Yeah, 100%.
>> Um, bit of a shorter show today get into super chats. I got one more clip for you to react to if if you've got a second, Gavin. This, you know, Andrew Schultz and the flagrant pod, we've blasted them a ton for being just the most useful idiots for Donald Trump in the leadup to the election. They stand for nothing.
They have zero conviction. I don't think Andrew Schultz is funny, and I definitely don't think anybody else on the podcast is funny, right? It is definitely just like an amorphous bro code show, but even they can sense that the winds have moved far away from Donald Trump. These Look out the door. If you hear an ambulance, the Vanguard will be there, sir.
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