The Republicans Need to STAY AWAY From Nick Fuentes & Tucker Carlson – Lionel Shriver

Added: 2026-05-10

[00:00:00]Are you concerned at all about some of the uh rhetoric on on the on the far right in the US and the UK?

[00:00:06]>> Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean I think it's almost parodic >> uh the Nick Fuente stuff. It's uh it seems designed to go, you know, it's deliberately outrageous.

[00:00:20]>> What was that word you used? Perodic >> perodic par of a parody.

[00:00:25]>> Oh, right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[00:00:28]>> Yeah. Sorry, I cut you off, please.

[00:00:30]>> That's all right. No, I I I've only seen a few a few clips of these people uh someone like Tucker Carlson, whose uh whose uh editorials about immigration when he was working for Fox, I thought were often excellent. He's really disappointed me.

[00:00:48]>> Um I >> What specifically with Tucker?

[00:00:52]>> Well, giving the odd rewrite of World War II.

[00:00:58]um the giving uh giving a voice to anti-semitism. I mean, it's just going off the deep end and not helpful. Not helpful at all.

[00:01:12]>> So, uh I don't know. I don't know whether that movement is going to keep going. It's It's certainly not not helpful on an electoral level. it you you don't want the Republican party to embrace this kind of stuff. And it's true that the left has become racist, but the answer is not to be racist in return.

[00:01:35]>> Yeah.

[00:01:36]>> That doesn't mean you can't defend your own culture. And it doesn't mean you can't turn the tables on the left. I mean what you were talking about earlier, the truth is that letting huge numbers of people in to your territory of from some you know from somewhere else with quite different cultural values.

[00:02:00]It is settler colonialism, right? If it's if that's what it is in Israel, it's certainly that's what it is in the UK and the US um or Sweden. I mean, it's happening all over the West and it it is something of a mystery why why why the West is letting in so many people often with very um negative economic uh consequences in spite of the fact we're constantly told that we need immigrants for economic reasons.

[00:02:33]>> You know, why why are we why why is this allowed? Why, especially why are so many people coming in illegally and they're not kicked out? I mean, it's I I think it is indicative of a profound uh cultural underconfidence.

[00:02:52]>> Would you say it's a mix of that and [clears throat] a cultish ideology?

[00:02:58]>> Yeah.

[00:02:59]Yeah. I mean the open borders policy which the left rarely admits it embraces uh is nevertheless that is the inevitable uh endgame of all the things that the left believes about immigration. You know they don't believe in deportation.

[00:03:23]They they they basically want to they don't believe in restricting asylum.

[00:03:28]They want to they basically want to let everyone in and and kick nobody out.

[00:03:33]That's an open border. But you don't see very many um activists even much less politicians on the left uh openly admitting that they don't want to have an immigration policy that that they want anyone who wants to live in the country to to to arrive without restriction and and to stay. They're not very big on the distinction between a citiz a citizen and and a temporary resident.