You Won’t Believe What the CBC Was Caught Doing...

Added: 2026-05-14

[00:00:00]This is this is uh social experiment.

[00:00:05]>> Okay. What are you planning on doing with all the footage that you that you've shot?

[00:00:09]>> I don't know.

[00:00:10]>> Wow. We got a double header here.

[00:00:12]Welcome back to Moose and Loose. My name is David. Today we've got the CBC and the APN getting unmasked running a fake company with fake interviews with fake everything trying to expose the right.

[00:00:25]And this dubtales with the second story of the conservative leadership race Peter Millibar and a bunch of people having a hissy fit over Carrie Lynn Finley asking a simple question of whether he's got conflicts of interest.

[00:00:36]Let's jump into this. Juno News posting this exclusive. CBC confirms they are behind media sting targeting residential school narrative critics. CBC confirms a media sting attempting to smear political commentators, including academic Francis Widowen, was part of a CBC entertainment project. Widowen blasted the project for being misdirected. This is what taxpayer money is going to just absolutely unreal here.

[00:01:02]So it goes on to say here, this project received significant grants from Canadian Heritage. So this is Mark Miller's division. says Widdson told Juno News that she along with author Lindseay Shepard, author Jeremy Ammernick, an unnamed RCMP officer, and later Dallas Brody had all been targeted by the media company. The commentators are wellknown for criticizing the claims that 215 bodies were found at a residential school in Cam Loops, BC, as well as defending Canada's prime minister, Sir John A. Macdonald. So, first off, there have not been any bones, graves, anything found at the Cam Loops Residential School. And that's why we gave $12 million of taxpayer money to the Techlups First Nation band to dig it up. And what did they do? They pocketed the money and they didn't go get an excavator over a weekend and digging it up. They know that there's nothing in there. That's why they're not digging.

[00:01:51]We see this on the Indian Residential School Research Group. out.

[00:01:55]Ottawa censors files on 12.1 million spent searching for alleged Cam Loops residential school graves. Isn't that convenient that the government just censored these documents not too long ago? This article originally came from the Western Standard on March 6, 2026.

[00:02:08]Says the Federal Department of Crown Indigenous Relations has redacted nearly all details from internal reports describing how a BC First Nation spent millions in taxpayer funding intended to allocate alleged graves of children of the former Cam Loops Indian Residential School. They block the documents into this. We've get our money. We get nothing in return. The ban just takes 12.1 million. Says Black Locks reporter says documents released under the access to information act show the department labeled the reports confidential, sealing details about work undertaken by the tekumlops sequa provided 12.1 million to support searches tied to the claims that 250 children were buried on the site. They didn't want to dig because they didn't want to prove that there's nothing there. So, it's easier to just steal the money, not dig, and then you can keep this thing going on and on and on. If you're proven wrong, well, then that starts to blow up the whole reconciliation cash cow that's happening here in Canada. The reports filed on 2023 were requested to determine what activities were completed as part of the federally funded effort. I mean, it's been 3 years they haven't dug a single square foot of soil. Why aren't Canadians questioning this? This is indefensible. First Nations can't say, "Well, we're still thinking about it.

[00:03:19]We're thinking maybe we'll hire a excavator from uh Florida, but they haven't gone up here yet. Like what's their excuse? They're going to hire an excavator from Europe. This could have been done in a weekend and they know it.

[00:03:28]Okay, we're getting off track here. So, back to this story. CBC and APN funding this media sting against anyone who is critical of that 215 graves story that came up simply asking questions. Well, let's lease some proof. Taxpayer money given out. No excavators hired. Not only that, they put up fences around it so people couldn't go in the middle of the night with a shovel and dig it up just to prove them wrong. Obviously, this stinks of corruption. So, we got Lindsey Shepard here who in 2022 was elected a director of the Conservative Party of British Columbia as part of Aaron Gun's Common Sense BC Coalition and has remained on the board since then.

[00:04:02]Shepard was criticized for a post she made on September 25th, 2025, a few days before the National Day of Truth and Reconciliation, in which she described the flying of the Truth and Reconciliation flag at the BC Parliament buildings as a disgrace. It is the Canadian flag, the British Columbia flag should be the only flag flying at those buildings and the same thing across Canada. Should be just Canadian flags or provincial flags. She stated that the orange shirt and the orange flag perpetrates untruths about Canadian history. And considering we gave $12 million to dig the ground and they still haven't done that. They just pocketed the money at this point. We should be charging interest back on that 8% on $12 million per year is a lot of money. Take the common S&P or TSX returns. Says on October 1st, 2025, BC Conservative leader John Rustad terminated her employment as communications officer within the party. John Rastad, a complete weakling, kicked her out of the party. And now she's finding out that she was deceived by social activists in an elaborate scheme dating back to January. A production group with that I now know has a fake name, a fake identities, gave me a friendly interview about my book, A Day with Sir John A, and about Sir John A. Macdonald back in February. They connected me with a fake company called Heritage Figures Canada with a fake website and hired me to perform consulting work for them. We had what I know were fake meetings, fake documents, fake commercial shoot, fake prototype of Sir John A. McDonald collectible. Then in a second filmed interview last week, they turned on me and it was revealed that all had been set up in order to demonize Sir John A and smear me. This is unbelievable. Here she says, "It turns out this is taxpayer funded CBC and APN project. There is so much more. I will make a video."

[00:05:42]Unbelievable. So she's got the receipts here. Hi Lindsay. We can confirm that this project is an early production for CBC Entertainment and APN. No details pertaining to exhibition or are confirmed at this time. Please contact the independent producers with any further questions. Best regards, Katherine. Katherine Wolf Gang, director of PR at CBC. She also posting this project, Counting Coupe, Northland Tales Company. You can see here a whole bunch of names. What do we even say about this? I mean, CBC, the Communist Broadcasting Corporation. So, she posted this, too. It says, "And this is scary.

[00:06:15]When I was signing the release form, one of the chatty producers was trying to distract me from reading it, but I obtained a copy and then they included a clause about using AI, so I expect they will doctor the footage and create deep fakes." Wow. So it's kind of cut off here, but it says the participant understands and agrees that such uses may involve altered of visual styles, sequencing, pacing, juxtaposition, and or contextual framing and expressly consents to such AI assisted and digitally mediated uses. So she's probably right. They're going to use AI to alter things. And then she also posts this photo here. It says, "The project partially involves the individuals listed in my original post, plus Americans like Igor, Vamos, and Molly Gore. You also see John A. McDonald impersonator in the top hat. So, she's talking about this uh character here.

[00:07:01]This is what the CBC spending money on is creating these fake elaborate companies to go after right-wing commentators, podcasters, pundits, academics, authors, you name it. Anyone who's critical of that story of the 215 grades or residential school cam loops, they created an entire company to go after these people and they used our money, taxpayer money to do it. This is deplorable. So, we got this account here, Vote Canada, digging up the who is record on heritagefigures.ca.

[00:07:31]It just goes back to Squarespace here.

[00:07:33]Squarespace domains Canada Inc. And we've got Katherine Wolf Gang. Oh boy.

[00:07:37]This is not going to create more love for the CBC. I wouldn't be surprised if the CBC would be getting sued from this for fraudulent misrepresentation. This seems like a pretty clear case. I'm not a lawyer, but going to this level to fake so many things, I can't see this ending well for the CBC. One thing this does show is what lengths the CBC will go to go after the right-wing period.

[00:07:58]Anyone even right-leaning that's going against their narrative, this is the length they'll go to. Creating fake companies with fake production shoots with fake everything, fake contracts just to control the narrative to go after anyone who's critical of stories they don't want people criticizing. It's time to get the excavator out and start digging. Got this account here, Jonathan K, who is a ex lawyer, engineer, coder, saying CBC itself admitted no graves were found. Did they also target CBC's own public editor? The commentators are all known for criticizing claims that 215 bodies were found at a residential school in Cam Loops, BC, as well as for defending Canada's Prime Minister, Sir John A. Macdonald. And then over on the CBC, April 17th, 2025, on April 16th, during a live broadcast following the French language federal elections leaders debate on CBC Network, chief political correspondent Rosemary Barton said, "Yes, there have been remains of indigenous children found in various places across the country." As CBC News has reported on multiple occasions, what several indigenous communities across Canada have discovered on on the sites of some former residential schools are potentially burial sites or unmarked graves. This is an admission that what Rosemary said on here wasn't correct.

[00:09:04]Says potential burial sites or unmarked graves, as in they don't have definitive proof because they haven't stuck a shovel in the ground. They haven't got an excavator out there. Now, going back to the original story here, it mentions academic Francis Widowen. Francis Widowen was terminated from Mount Royal University after being critical of residential schools. You can see here Francis Widowen, a Canadian political scientist. She was associate professor at department of economics, justice, and social policies at Mount Royal University. She was terminated in 2021 after investigation into her claims of harassment by widowen against faculty member. She was critic of certain claims regarding Indian residential school system, challenging assertions that first nation children are buried at Cam Loop's residential school. But this has not been proven. There's no fact that there's anything there other than dirt.

[00:09:49]Now, what blew this up is this. Francis was a part of this fake TV show which was being portrayed as an American TV company. They set up all the cameras, the lights, all this stuff. And then they do these gotcha moments on these people like Francis. And she figured this out. Her backpack was out in a van that was outside. So, she said she had to go get her medication. I believe that's what happened here. She goes out, gets her phone, comes back and starts flipping the script on them. Here you can see her hand is over her phone, and this is what happens.

[00:10:19]>> What's this about?

[00:10:22]>> Tell me what this is about.

[00:10:30]Who are you?

[00:10:34]So, he doesn't know what to say. This is a TV producer of this so-called TV show that she's on. this American company which is all fake. This is put on by APN and CBC as conservative Lindseay Shepard had noted here. Taxpayer funded CBC and APN. The APN is the Aboriginal People's Television Network.

[00:10:54]>> Uh this was a pile of shoes that I I believe two Averinal people uh came and dumped on the the table. This seems to be a setup of some outfit that's doing a reality television show that wants to paint me, I guess, as some kind of a racist or something that they're going to post on social media.

[00:11:18]>> What's your name, sir?

[00:11:20]>> Mike Smith.

[00:11:20]>> Mike Smith.

[00:11:21]>> Yeah, I >> Yeah, sure. Okay. Mike Smith. Okay.

[00:11:25]>> And And I think um Yeah, that you got it exactly right. You you've defined it precise. Well, I wouldn't say exactly right. It's this is this is uh social experiment.

[00:11:38]>> Okay.

[00:11:39]>> And it's on video and I'm on video, too.

[00:11:43]So, we're on video together.

[00:11:44]>> Yeah, we're on video together.

[00:11:46]>> Yep. So, um I think that you figured it out and now we can wrap it up.

[00:11:52]>> Okay. But, uh am I am I the target? Are you got other people or you just focusing on me?

[00:11:58]>> No, you're not a target. No, you're you're participating. Okay. And what am I participating in?

[00:12:04]>> This social experiment.

[00:12:06]>> Okay. What What is the social experiment?

[00:12:09]>> Uh you just experienced it. You could tell me.

[00:12:12]>> Uh you wanted to uh get me Francis Widowen who is a known uh controversial figure. You wanted to get me to talk about my views in a I guess a candid way.

[00:12:27]Uh which I I told everything truthful.

[00:12:30]You you you brought two a Who are these Aboriginal? Were they Aboriginal? First of all, we don't know. I I've met a people who who are Japanese and I thought they were Aboriginal. So, these are two Aboriginal people that you brought in.

[00:12:42]>> Uh oh, I I didn't bring I didn't bring Aboriginal people in now. I'm I work for them.

[00:12:49]>> You work for the Aboriginal. Who do you Sorry. Who do you work for?

[00:12:52]>> Uh for them.

[00:12:54]>> Who is them?

[00:12:55]>> The Aboriginal people. indigenous people that you're talking about. So yeah, so you that's that's the whole that's the deal.

[00:13:04]>> This guy and this organization needs to be sued into the stone age. They're just going to hide behind it was a social experiment, bro.

[00:13:12]>> So there's there's an Aboriginal group that hired you.

[00:13:18]>> I'm a Yeah, I'm a TV producer.

[00:13:20]>> You're a TV producer who an Aboriginal uh an Aboriginal organization hired. not an organization, >> some Aboriginal people, not affiliated with any Aboriginal uh organization.

[00:13:34]>> Correct.

[00:13:35]>> So, just a couple Aboriginal people hired this huge apparatus here. How many people are there here? There's like 10 people here as a studio. How much did this cost?

[00:13:50]>> Yeah, I think I I think you know the answers actually because you're participating.

[00:13:55]So they had to fly me. So I was flown from Calgary to here. I stayed the night in a hotel. There's at least 10 people that I can see in this room. And this is like wake up. So they're pretending it was a woke expose and it's not. This seems to be trying to expose me, I guess. What are you planning on doing with all the footage that you that you've shot?

[00:14:20]>> Um I don't know. No. But um yeah, I think uh now that you've you were allowed to speak here, right? You spoke.

[00:14:32]>> I did.

[00:14:33]>> I don't think anybody else spoke. At a certain point, it was just you.

[00:14:36]>> Yeah.

[00:14:37]>> Right. Yeah.

[00:14:37]>> So, um >> is it going to be released in its entirety?

[00:14:42]>> I don't know.

[00:14:43]>> Okay.

[00:14:44]>> But, um >> I thought it was a pretty good interview, actually.

[00:14:46]>> Yeah, I agree.

[00:14:48]>> Her video was released in its entirety.

[00:14:50]One of a bunch of snakes.

[00:14:52]>> I agree. I I mean I think you you did get to say a lot of things that you've been you've been saying. So, >> but I don't I don't quite understand what what you're going to do with it.

[00:15:02]Like I like I'm happy for you to to publish publish it widely and whatever, but what is the I don't understand what the context is like? Like like what what is the what is the program where it's going to be released on?

[00:15:14]>> Well, we can continue the conversation later. I I'm perfectly happy to call you and talk about it.

[00:15:19]>> Okay.

[00:15:19]>> Yeah.

[00:15:20]>> But I don't know why we can't do it now.

[00:15:22]Uh, just >> so you're you're live right now. This is >> okay.

[00:15:26]>> This is being streamed out live, >> right?

[00:15:28]>> Yeah. Good for you.

[00:15:30]>> It's fine. It's all good.

[00:15:32]>> I've got nothing to be ashamed of. I'm not I just don't like being lied to.

[00:15:35]>> And this is a different kind of discourse, a different kind of dialogue.

[00:15:38]>> Yeah.

[00:15:39]>> Obviously, you were the one speaking and nobody else was.

[00:15:42]>> Yeah.

[00:15:42]>> But that's not true. There was a there was an >> John A. McDonald guy was was talking, but he's he's just a he's a plant, right?

[00:15:49]>> Uh a plant. like he's not >> he's an actor who's who's been trained to perform as Johnny A McDonald.

[00:15:56]>> So they just go on to talk about John A.

[00:15:57]McDonald, this guy they brought in as well, he's just an actor pretending to be John A. Macdonald apparently trained by the world leading Canadian leading expert in John A. McDonald and the top impersonator. This whole production must have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions. Like they turned the lights a little bit at the stage.

[00:16:15]>> Have you got Have you got everything?

[00:16:17]>> I do.

[00:16:18]>> Okay, let's go.

[00:16:19]>> Look at this. turn the lights off and kick her out.

[00:16:23]>> But as I say, >> okay, >> my bag I assume my backpack is out here.

[00:16:32]>> The backpack is in the van, right? It was You came in the van. Let's just make sure that.

[00:16:37]>> Okay.

[00:16:38]>> Oh, I left it. I left it in there.

[00:16:43]Okay.

[00:16:45]>> The driver.

[00:16:47]>> Okay. and the bags in. All right, >> these are these people. So, this was the camera crew uh which I was set up.

[00:16:56]>> Now, jumping back to my tangent with what we've got going on in British Columbia. People critical of Carrie Lynn Finley of simply asking a question if Millibar has a conflict of interest here. We've got the federal government locking down these files here of the 12.1 million paid to dig up the ground here. Right on Black Locks reporter, alleged graves confidential. The Department of Crown Indigenous Relations have censored as confidential in files on what Cam Loops BC First Nations did with 12.1 million paid to recover alleged graves. And on top of this, we have all this controversy of Carrie Lynn Finley simply stating she doesn't think Peter Millibar will be able to pass a conflict of interest test because of family ties. His wife has a salary with this band that comes First Nation. She's originally from a Yukon band. Millibar's daughter married a guy who's a part of this band and thus the grandchildren are a part of this band. And if they get a multi-billion dollar payout, then they could directly profit off of this. So obviously this is a conflict of interest. The government locks up these files so we can't see what's going on.

[00:17:55]They're not spending our $12 million to dig the graves to see if there's anything here. They don't want their cover blown here of reconciliation. This is a massive scandal here. Have you seen the size of area they want to claim? So this is their traditional territory.

[00:18:07]This isn't the entire claim area but this is the sewik traditional territory.

[00:18:13]Now the technup first nation wants to claim this area in yellow. So now to give a context here this pink area here is cam loops the city of cam loops. And so if we look at that comparative to here this traditional territory is about 18 million hectares. The area they want to claim is 1.25 million hectares. So this is roughly about 116th of this traditional territory. But I mean this is massive. We can see this is going from Jasper all the way to Cam Loops. So basically it would be you can see my cursor down here this area of Cam Loops around here. So about 116th of this entire pie but roughly around 15 to upwards I've seen of around 40 or more than $40 billion of land. That's why if you have a guy like Peter Millibar whose family is attached to this through his stepson his daughter married into that band essentially grandkids attached to that. if he were to give out a big reconciliation package to the Tekken Lups First Nation, say it's not $40 billion, say it's only $2 billion, which would be awful for British Columbia, do you think his family is going to be getting some kickbacks from that? These are questions to ask. That's why you can't have conflicts of interest like that where family's too closely connected. And this could be of any situation. This isn't only for First Nations. If a family member is directly going to profit off of someone becoming the leader of the Conservative Party or a premier of British Columbia, then we need to be able to ask these questions.

[00:19:29]That's why it's so appalling that there's conservatives pushing back against even asking the questions.

[00:19:33]Meanwhile, they've done nothing to try to help save British Columbia. We can see here on the British Columbia government website, members conflict of interest act chapter 287. Scrolling down, a member must not use member's office to seek to influence a decision to be made by another person or to further the member's private interest.

[00:19:51]It talks a lot about the member's private interest. Having one's family benefit financially from a reconciliation payment would be one's private interest. Now, I want to play devil's advocate and say, well, First Nations don't typically give out big cash payments to their band members.

[00:20:06]They keep the money in these long-term trusts. They spend the interest and save that money for future generations. There have been some examples where they have divvied out some money. We've got an example here. This is Canada and the Missagas of the New Credit First Nation.

[00:20:20]They were awarded $145 million settlement. And digging through their financials here, you can see back from 2024 all the way down here, we can see balance represents unclaimed per capita dist distributions from the initial settlement of the trust of $20,000 per member for a total of 48 members. So they gave everyone 20 grand. In this situation, what they more typically will do will build community centers, build up their everything, their entire community. They build more houses, they build everything. It basically sets up the community. Now, if Techumlups gets $2 billion, $5 billion, then they would roughly have around $80 million, $100 million per year off of interest they could be using towards the community. If that windfall came from, say, a premier of the province, well, you can imagine the family probably get treated a little bit better than the average member of the band. And using this example here where they're giving $20,000 each off of $148 million claim, if we were talking billions, just say 10 times this, it'd be $1.4 4 billion. You could simply add a zero in here, meaning every band member gets $200,000. That wouldn't necessarily happen, but that could happen just based off this one example here. And if it wasn't 1.4 billion, but was 5 billion, then you could double that. So it' be $400,000 a piece. You can see how this becomes a slippery slope and taxpayers are the ones on the hook for it. So it's fair to ask questions. So with all that said, Peter Millibar has come out and said that he wants to debate Kerry Lynn Finley. He's putting on the table. He also said it has to be focused around the economy and not his family. It's like we need to talk about his conflicts of interest.

[00:21:51]Sure, we can talk about the economy, but I mean there's been already three or four debates now, four debates where they've had plenty of time to talk about the economy. We need to talk about his conflicts of interest. His wife works for that band. His daughter married into that band. His grandkids are part of that band. That band was given $12 million. They just took taxpayers money and ran away with it, which is already a massive red flag. Like that band has the biggest red flag on them of all First Nation bands in Canada just for doing that. And on top of all of that, we have the federal government, Mark Carney's government making these files regarding, you can see here, 12.1 million paid prior alleged graves in Indian residential school, Technup's First Nation. They locked these files. They redacted these and they've locked these files down. Looking at the fine details, there's no time limit to when these get unlocked. They're just redacted and that's it. And while Millibar might not be wrapped up in this, it doesn't matter. His family connections weave him into this as a conflict of interest. Why is the guy so scared to talk about it?

[00:22:48]Why is the CBC and the Aboriginal TV network creating a fake production, a fake company to go after anyone who's critical of this? There's a lot of questions here that Canadians need answers to.