The discussion highlights the inevitable collision between humanitarian idealism and the logistical reality of failed repatriation policies. It serves as a sobering reminder that entry without an exit strategy is not a policy, but a permanent demographic shift.
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Obviously, the Syrian civil war erupted back in 2011 around the time when the rest of the Arab Spring was, you know, going up all across, you know, North Africa and many of the Arab Muslim countries in the world. And as a result of this, you know, as things escalated year on year as well, um, Angela Merkel took it on herself out of her own sense of very, very overpowering German guilt and also the fact that she saw the refugee crisis as a means to basically um, kind of rehabilitate Germany's reputation right on amongst the international community. If we can just be seen to do this selfless, benevolent thing that is a pure un on allied good, >> then everything will work out all right.
>> The Germans never need much excuse to hit the self-destruct button.
>> No, no, this is true. Uh but the problem as well with all of this is of course that if the sort of expectations of said international community and the UN, the refugee council, all these sorts of institutions, the EU itself of course, if they're all saying that the policies you have to enact to for us to basically have you in the good books happen to be policies that Germany has to enact that will endanger German lives, then I would suggest that actually those institutions aren't really worth listening to. Uh and actually that would be a very uh morally unacceptable to thing to do as the leader of Germany. Uh but we could see it all started very much quite literally with flowers and candles and coffee um as refugees began to pour into uh Germany from across Syria. And as this went on, of course, we basically got to the now very very infamous and you know a point frankly in European history in the 21st century that will never be forgotten which was of course Angela Merkel's visaf and das you know we can do it where she went on as a reporting from the time went on to say the chancellor made the issue of refugees the focus of her press conference. It is not a natural disaster that we are seeing in many places, she said, but we are seeing a large number of disastrous situations. She pointed the to the example of the tragedy in Austria where only last week the bodies of 71 refugees were found in a lorry. Angela Merkel spoke of quote inconceivable atrocities and unimaginable images and she stressed that it was >> this is before she brought them all in.
>> Yes.
>> Right. Because it's also after.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. Yes. I mean the the the horrors it's is the thing of course there were only certain horrors right >> that she couldn't bear to see >> I see the horrors that matter the ones that happen to people who aren't German who aren't her concern right >> she's not concerned about the horrors that happen to Germans who are her concern >> you've got it right >> but also just let me just say cuz this was a very complex period back then I remember all of it because Greece was also involved we had a very uh bad government at the time citizen that uh did play a part in in flooding Europe with uh >> you know lots of people from Syria. But one thing to say is that when it comes to Merkel, Merkel didn't live during the World War II.
>> She had the different experience in her mind. She was born in East Germany >> and the East West Germany divide is what essentially formed her psyche. She wanted to be in the west and was denied in a way she she couldn't.
>> Well, there was a war.
>> Yeah. So that's much more uh formative for her an experience than any other you know experience regarding World War II as people on in some circles imply.
>> Yeah. Okay. Uh and but Merkel stress that it's important to have clear principles and that we must be um uh these must be complied with in dealing with refugees. These principles are laid out in our basic law or constitution.
She said the German law provides basic law provides for the right to asylum for individuals fleeing political persecution. We should be proud of the humanitarian principles enshrined in the basic law said Merkel. Germany also guarantees to protect individuals fleeing from these wars and at the same time the chancellor took a clear stance uh on every form of xenophobia. We will be using the full force of the law against those who verbally or physically attack others, who talk shelters or try to resort to violence. There is zero tolerance for those who call in to question the dignity of others, stressed Angela Merkel. And the chancellor urged Germans not to get involved in demonstrations to protest against the refugees coming into the country. Now there is one thing here because if you were say for example attack like burning refugee shelters then that is one thing.
>> That's not what she said. What she said was zero tolerance for questions.
>> Yes. Right. Okay. And here we go. And so we see the the natural conclusion of all of that playing out now you know 10 years down the line where the the AFD is under constant surveillance from German intelligence. How they're basically just making Germans secondass citizens in their own home. and not to mention of course all of the rampant crime that has come with it. Um she went on to say Germany is a strong country. We have already achieved so much time and time again Germany has risen to the challenge said she said giving the examples of German reunification 25 years ago and the country's energy shift to put energy supplies on a more uh sustainable footing and the effective assistance of um it has provided in the face of natural disasters. And as we've covered in a lot of the time since then, those energy disasters that Germany was dealing with and many of the other things, it seems that they weren't quite the German elites weren't quite as um you know, didn't have quite as a thorough plan as they anticipated in doing. So, let's go to the statistics, shall we?
>> I mean, quickly on the energy thing. I mean, that's because they because they were reliant on Russian gas and nuclear.
They closed down all the nuclear, went all in on Russian gas and then decided to sanction Russian gas, >> right? Not a great plan, but >> my point is is kind of predictable.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. Don't become energy dependent 100%.
>> Yeah. And and then sanction them.
>> Yes.
>> Um you you could arguably say that there was tremendous pressure by the Biden administration to the Germans to sanction them >> because the ger the Germans didn't rush to sanction Russia.
>> So we can see here from the uh this ranking table. So Turkey took by far and away the most Syrian refugees followed by Lebanon and then Germany ahead of surrounding you know areas such as Jordan, Iraq, Egypt that were obviously much much closer and much more current uh culturally you know I would suggest in sync with um Syrian people than uh secular Christian whichever it may be you know Germany. However, it is what it is. And as a result of all of this, this obviously resulted in quite a good number of atrocities. And I will just say with this as well that though I am going to go through and pick out some of the worst examples that have been committed by, you know, the actions of Syrians who have, you know, come under the guise of asylum into Germany. I I just want to clarify that what I am not doing is suggesting that every Syrian refugee is a murderer in waiting or just a criminal. That's not what I'm suggesting. There are many uh families, you know, from Syria who have naturally um kept the the safety of their families at heart and have tried to flee the country. I understand that. What I don't understand is the European gamble for basically well we are going to do this and at what point does it become okay we're losing too many of our own people to to those that have been let in now right there is no regard >> there is no regard for the safety of the Europeans themselves and this is what my contention is with you know if a Syrian wants to go to uh Lebanon to to try and you know find sanctuary absolutely fine but Why would Germany allow this?
Especially after ever since this happened, we have an entire litany of examples of where it all goes disastrously wrong. So we can see here that the 15 people were injured for seriously in a suicide bombing back in 2016 in Bavaria. We also point to the fact that in 2016 a Syrian asylum seeker stabbed um his girlfriend with a Donna kebab knife um surrounded by bystanders and they were also harmed in it too. And then of course we get onto the fact that whilst all of this was going on, this was still at a time when ISIS was very much powerful in the region of the Middle East and were trying to create the little caliphate. And so as a result of that, a German court found Syrian citizen Isa al-Hassan guilty of an Islamic State inspired uh 2024 stabbing attack on the festival in the west western city of Soligan Solingen uh in which three people were killed and 10 others injured. And this is my point.
How many refugees does it take for you to feel good about yourself as a world leader? And how many lives of German people does it take to negate that good feeling? And maybe give you a bit of pause for thought that you might this all might have been a bit of a disaster.
>> Uh there's no answer there. No, >> cuz the it's just infinite. And you you mentioned the Solingan knife attacks cuz that was a I think there was a diversity festival there. I may be mistaken. Check it out. Check it out. But I think there was a diversity festival there. Yes.
>> In which this attack happened. Then the response was let's b knives and um what is interesting when we're covering Germany is that the government of Germany both the previous coalition and the one that is currently governing which is the basically the same two parties >> with a different leadership is that they are they seem to be very much interested in micromanaging decline and something that really annoys people and I'm annoyed with it. I imagine that if you're a German uh you are annoyed even more with it is that this whatever this policy is >> it is clothed in the name of is presented in the name of humanitarianism but the humanitarianism involved is very selective and this ties to exactly what you were saying before it's like when you are taking a huge risk >> you are putting your own population in danger because let's face it multiculturalism especially in Europe when it comes with people from the Minat countries doesn't have exactly a track record of success. So when you're taking such a massive risk and a after every event you don't show that you're willing to self-correct or at least allow criticism, that's when people start saying, "Well, no, you're you're against me. You don't care about the human rights in general. you care about the human rights of refugees who come here and disrespect the human rights of Europeans.
>> Um, absolutely. Uh, before the attack on August 23rd, he had been in touch with an IS handler via Telegram messaging platform and recorded a video announcing his allegiance to them. And the other thing to just mention with all of this is that of course though I am focusing on Germany in this segment. Of course it's not just Germany, right? Germany is not the only country in Europe to have taken in Syrian refugees. And so we have here Syrian brothers Omar and Muhammad who came over I believe so sorry I'll read further down. Uh the attackers were aged between 15 and 21 when the abuser victim between uh 8 uh 2018 2019 Newcastle Crown Court heard uh the girl said they tortured her making her childhood a living nightmare and I am sure that somewhere further down here I meant to put it in my notes I apologize.
Um yes uh who moved to the UK as refugees from the war in Syria. uh telling her she would be killed and taken to another country. So this was all monstrous and Britain took significantly fewer Syrian refugees than other countries. And yet we have here such films were made about it like the old oak by Ken Loach which was basically a film from someone who was well it's far left too leftwing for my take but taste but he was very respected filmmaker um sort of you know for many decades now in British cinema and he used the opportunity for his last ever film bear in mind this is a man who was born in 1936 >> when all of these problems didn't exist in Britain >> to basically make a film telling you, "Yeah, but they're not actually here, are they? It's all farright propaganda and none of it's really real. And really, shouldn't we just be accepting Syrians into our own lives?"
And so obviously going further down as well, they just more and more information came out as the as the years went on and we grow to realize as a European conservative point out here that from the German federal criminal police officers own statistics were able to highlight a stark difference in crime rates between German and foreign suspects with Syrians and Afghans showing particularly high figures. The federal report crime in the context of migration for 2024 revealed that across numerous types of offenses uh offenses Syrians and Afghans appeared as uh suspects significantly more than German citizens who'd have thought it. Among Germans 163 suspects per 100,000 inhabitants are recorded. By contrast for Syrians it's 1,740.
Uh and for Afghans it's about the same per 100,000. So a marked you know >> more than 10 times likely to commit a serious crime against a person.
>> Yes. But vishaf and das I suppose um a similar pattern emerges in sexual and drugrelated offenses and overall non-German suspects were now making for over 40% of all cases while the proportion of foreign uh convicts had grown over the past decade and now exceeds onethird.
So sorry >> do you want me to jump in here?
>> Oh yeah. Say what?
>> Right. So I remember these cuz I've covered several times these crimes and also these statistics. It is very interesting um to note that they are official statistics.
>> So when it comes to this remember that it's the it's the state that publishes them >> but it's also the state that penalizes people uh for talking about them. And there was a uh an MP or a member of the AFD uh a really young uh member of the AFD who was fined with thousands of of euros about it >> for citing >> for citing government numbers >> numbers and this suggests something.
First of all, obviously there's a hypocrisy in it. The the usual criticism that the state doesn't allow people to criticize the disastrous policies they're implementing. But there's also the other bit is there's another reason why they're doing it is because on the one hand they're saying, well, don't talk about it. But on the other hand, they say, well, if you're going to talk about it, you will be allowed only to refer to this data only in a very specific way. And this way implies that if these communities, if these groups are over represented in violent crime or crime of any other sort, the solution to that is to to tax even more >> the native German and the native Europeans in other countries in order to bear the costs of integration. say they never see these groups, at least this is what their rhetoric is suggesting. I'm talking about the establishment. They never see these groups as actually agents who are responsible for crimes because because these figures are actually important to the German government. The German government does need these figures, but of course they're only ever to be interpreted in a particular way. as you say, it's about um using these statistics to highlight socioeconomic differences and the prevalence of racism. It's not to be used to come to I don't know maybe the conclusion that these people shouldn't be in Germany.
>> Well, they can't accept there's any difference between cultures.
>> No, even though we see it every day in front of our very eyes. And the question is, how many victims must there be in order for the establishment to at least appear puzzled that this perhaps isn't done in the proper way? And in fact, actually just just off the top of my head, but to bring it up as well, the idea of just hospitality and guest right and just honoring the people that come into your home and also the people who come into your home honoring you as the host as well, right, is a very old honored tradition in European cultures.
Uh, obviously something we talk about a lot when it comes to the ancient Greek stuff on Chronicles, but there is aspects of it throughout all of European societies for the most part. And when you are coming from refugees, when you are asylum seekers and you choose to repay the host nation with brutal crimes, um >> that does rather sour the goodwill somewhat. And how and obviously would in normal circumstances make it even more conditional that well as soon as the Assad regime falls and you're able to go home you really it's it's kind of time for you to leave.
>> It has fallen.
>> It has fallen. Yes. quite a while ago in fact at this point and as the um United Nations uh points out here they're a refugee agency a year after the Assad regime fell over 3 million displaced Syrians have returned home >> but greater international support is urgently needed to maintain the trend and ensure stability so according to them more than 1.2 2 million Syrians have voluntarily returned from neighboring countries since December 2024 alongside over 1.9 million internally within Syria who have just internally domestically fled to another part of it. Right? So all of this displacement is slowly being returned to a state of normaly who have gone back to their areas of origin and many more have expressed a desire to return. This is all good news. This marks a critical step, as they say here, in Syria's healing process. Force displacement was among the deep wounds inflicted by the conflict, and return is critical to end years of suffering and ensure stabilization.
This is a quote quote here. "This is a once- in a generation chance to help end one of the world's uh worst humanitarian crisis," said UN High Commissioner for Refugees uh Filipo Grandi. uh but without urgent uh global backing this window of hope will close. Syrians are ready to rebuild. The question is whether the world is ready to help them do it or not. And we can see here from projections as well. They were anticipating quite um a big call right from the rest of the world and Syrians around the scattered around the world that they would now want to go home and after the rebuilding of the war. And indeed there does seem to be some truth to it as well given that uh apparently in Turkey uh now over 1.3 million Syrian refugees have actually left Turkey to go back home which is nearly half of them.
>> But I can spot a pattern here.
>> Yes. If they were to place internally well they're going to be better off by going back. And if they were to place to the neighboring countries were they going to be better off going back than they were? And if they went to Turkey, and I was in Turkey during this, >> and they all just camped down in the middle of the street. You'd walk up a Turkish high street, not even in a major town, but even even the smaller towns, and the middle of the high street would just be these rows of tents >> full of Syrians. Now, if that's your alternative, yeah, of course, you're going to go back. But I mean, you haven't got to it yet, and I wonder if you're going to, but what about the people who've been given houses and incomes in places like Germany?
>> Yes. Yes. about so about that um not so great now apparently only about 6,000 pe Syrians have voluntarily left Germany uh in 2025 so in Turkey they're able to basically push as you say 1.3 million off uh which I believe is about half of them it's something like nearer to 3 million that uh went into Turkey and many are returning from Lebanon as well uh but as a result of this naturally and especially with the AFD uh breathing down the neck of the German establishment there Mertz has to be seen to obviously offer some red meat up to actually concern German voters here so we can see the BBC reporting that uh most Syrian refugees in Germany are expected to return home in three years and this is from Mercy's mouth mouth himself uh goes on to say the German chancellor Friedrich Mertz says that he and the Syrian president Ahmed al- Sharah hope that 80% of the Syrians in Germany will return home in the next 3 years. We are proud that Syrians have quickly learned very quickly to contribute to society.
He said we are working with our friends and the German government to establish a circular migration model. This would enable Syrians to contribute to the reconstruction of their homeland without giving up the stability and lives they have built here for those who wish to stay, says Shira. Uh, and as I point out, only 6,000 have gone home because this isn't really an incentive, is it?
>> You can stay here and have a free house and free stuff. And also I just want to comment on just scrolling down looking at this picture the sheer lunacy of this that that for what was it 15 20 years ISIS and the jihadi head choppers were the west's enemy number one and now you got a situation where you've got an ISIS >> jihadi head chopper stood next to the chancellor of Germany just the madness of the world we live in.
>> I have to mention something here because I remember this really well. Um for uh some time European leaders met with uh Syri the current Syrian president and there was lots of discussion and blame against them that you know you're just traitors to your country and then Trump met him in uh the tour he did of the Gulf and suddenly everything everyone was yeah Trump is doing the great art of the deal and uh suddenly it wasn't so bad. I want to say something. I don't like this picture, but from a realistic perspective, I think this is what Mertz should be doing. He should want to try and see and take reality at face value and see how to uh take back how to make many Syrians leave Germany and go to Syria. The trouble with it though isn't what I see in the picture. It's uh actually something to do with the character of Mertz. He has a habit of stating the obvious um decades after the the general public can see it.
>> Yes.
>> And he does it in a very demoralizing way. I'll give you a very quick example.
When he's talking about he recently talked about denuclearization and said it was just uh uh ridiculous, but it's too late to do anything about it. Sorry.
No, it's not too late. you can start start rebuilding your nuclear plants. So what I what I think is that character is destiny. The same way I've I've said this about other people in other areas of the political spectrum, the same applies for Mertz. What I see here is weakness >> and an inability to defend the interests of his own country because fundamentally what he uh wants to be seen as doing is to honor the firewall of German politics i.e. in other words he doesn't want to be seen as teaming up with the AFD and particular policies. This is sort of changing in in Europe in some respects, but I think that Mertz is not showing me reason to be optimistic for Germany.
>> No. And of course, there are no none of these caveats about circular migration with the Turks, right? The Turks like war's over, get yourselves off, right?
It's all very straightforward. Um, and this comes down to the fact as well. So the everything as you just say, but also he is trying to stave off the threat of the AFD, which does seem to get stronger in the polls every time an election comes round. It's just a shame that so many people have to die between those election cycles and suffer as all of this continues to go on. And it doesn't help either when other voices from within Mertz's coalition are basically trying to counter signal him and say, "What are you thinking about sending Syrians back to Syria now the war's over?" What a preposterous position, Mr. Mertz. Um, and basically saying that it has no plan and no legal basis. Now the problem with that of course is that you can criticize Mertz for having no plan and no legal basis but of course those voices around him aren't interested in creating a plan or a legal basis either because they want to keep the Syrians in Germany. Um, I realize time, but I'll I will just go through this little bit here where it says, "Although it's not the first time Mertz has urged Syrians to return home to help rebuild their country following its long and brutal civil war that ended in 2024, his latest remarks have drawn a wider rebuke due to their spe um specificity, meaning it might be a bit more serious this time, I suppose, and the setting in which they were made alongside the Syrian president. Um what remains is a figure with no plan, no legal basis and no respect for so many people who are part of our society. Pay attention to that word our there because it comes from uh a law maker in the social democratic party and her name is um Iden Oogus um which I'm definitely butchering but all this to say both of her parents are Turkish. It's like, well, that's very interesting because in what world are we now in where the Turk gets to describe who gets to stay in Germany? And also as well, would she apply that same standard to her own native country of Turkey even as it dispels as many of the refugees from Turkey as it possibly can? So once again, it's there's an entrenched cabal of foreigners within Germany as well who are going to do absolutely everything they can to keep Germany as multicultural as they possibly can. And they'll they'll talk about all the tried and tested points at this point about birth rates and about all these sorts of things. But as the the article itself goes on to point out, um approximately 1.23 23 million people of Syrian origin were registered in Germany at the end of 2024 and of these about a quarter of a million and acquired German citizenship which I will just point out the German state didn't have to give them uh leaving close to a million Syrian nationals in Germany at risk of being affected by the proposals uh proposed largecale return policy but of all of these as well only about 5,000 of them are doctors 2,000 of them are nurses.
Um, so all right. Well, I mean, if you want to go down that road as a bit of a compromise, keep 2,000 nurses, but is there any reason why you have to keep the other million of them? Right.
>> Well, even if you keep the doctors, wasn't one of the guys who ran over a Christmas market a doctor?
>> Well, and that too, again, I just come back to the same point that I made um towards the beginning. Why take the risk?
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